Germany: "Japan, you need to help us fighting back against Russia. While Russia is focused on the Baltics, you could use the diversion to attack from the east." Japan: * attacks Pearl Harbour * Germany: "Scheiße, not again..."
@@Inspectorzinn2 They might, but they'll be wrong. And this is coming from someone who spend more than a decade serving my country, with multiple deployments to armed conflicts!
@@Inspectorzinn2 well sure. While I do have upmost respect for veterans and military servicemen, they did sign up to protect their country/cause and are aware of the risk of losing their lives. The civilians did however not sign up to this. I am also aware that some troops may not be too keen to serve or may even have been forced into that situation, however dire their situation might be they are still there to serve and protect said civilians.
I believe you should focus more on logistics. Yes it isn‘t as flashy as, this tank is better than that one, but logistics is what ultimately wins a war.
@@hiteshadhikari yes, but deploying tens of thousands Airborne troops, without talking once, about how to feed them, for more than two days is a very large gap
@@roadrunner6224 thats why after 1st wave all the following up waves take more and more space for resources, you have to establish line. Paratroopers are send beyond enemy territory to weaken defenders and in meantime main army has to rush in and logistic chain has to follow. If the mission is fucked up by any element, its a risky thing
@@hiteshadhikari actually thats the ww2 doctrine Airbone is meant to be the fast deployment units not to go behind enemy lines. Tatics like this are very expensive when it comes to human lives. This was the reason the germans stopped using mass attacks with paratroopers. Airborne is meant to hold the enemy untill the big guns arrive not that airborne units lack firepower
In my opinion, Estonia has one of the coolest flags in the world. They're simple, but the color combination of blue, black and white just looks cool to me.
I have the same feeling, maybe because I'm colorblind :D It reminds me of new Lufthansa liveries which are combined with dark blue and white. This kind of palette is very attractive to me
@@infernosgaming8942 Hungry, yes, but the general consensus is that such a war isn't worth it for any side. The russians would be worse off than they started, and the Baltics aren't really worth the effort to aquire, as we have a small population and industry. Plus, the armies that we do have are specialised more in unconventional warfare, that is, even if the russians conquered the place, guerrilla fighting would be a pretty big deal, steadily making the effort of invasion even less worth it.
@@krebssfish9370 Dictatorships frequently start wars with their foreign neighbors even when it isn't in their own country's interests. They usually do this to distract from their own problems while uniting their nation behind the current regime.
Do not worry we have your back, EU brothers. and BTW I think it will be a dumb move from Russia because obviously, PL, FIN, Ukraine will be more than interested to get back some land occupied by Russia. The conflict will spread from N to S - in this scenario, it's all time Russia gaining a bit of ground on the EU - I do not think that will be case to be honest now. Even if we like to to disagree between us in politics it does not mean when defense at sake, EU will not be solidaire. Clearly EST states - the most playing games with politics recently, will change of disc, and we discover how much EU patriots they may feel. I think FR and DE will play their role of defense. Specially France, we showed against Turkey we will not let Greece (EU member) under pressure of a non EU state (EVEN IF TURKEY is part of NATO) Now, both of the side have nukes, and probably nobody will really want to use them, and a just pure classical war will be done (economy/men power/tech) and ... it is not actually in favor of Russia. Because EU nations are not really in war mode currently, means we do not put so much money or effort (in term of part of our economy) in defense. So as soon as we put EU in war mode, that will be another story. Russia spend more than +4% of its GPD in military budget, EU it is barely +2% ... (Germany not even 1.5% ... I think our Bro from DE you could do effort, specially now UK is out) even like that we still are potent against Russia. I mean Russia will benefice more to try to be friendly and work with us than trying all the time to be afraid us. We are not the USA (different foreign politic) however we wld like a fair and reliable neighbor, not one that wants all the time to potentially declare war that will bring nothing ... Or doing nasty thing, yes, we are talking about you Belorussia ;-) Still, peace and love from France!
Indeed, the Russians got their asses handed to them quite magnificently during the first Winter War (and that was when Russia still had its Soviet Empire to call upon). I doubt very much that in the event of a European war with Russia, the Fins would be too timid in giving the Russians another lesson in Scandinavian warcraft.
@@ГеоргийМурзич What they teach you is to not try and copy German Blitzkrieg tactics in a terrain which it wasn't suited for because you may end up in a WW1 stalemate sort of situation. If the french hadn't greeked on the troops they promised and if Sweden would have committed to more than profiteering off a dying nation, it could have gone a lot worse for the Russians. WW1 style trench warfare isn't fun when the enemy has enough artillery shells and bullets to spare. Russians kinda lucked out that the rest of Europe just decided to ignore everything happening in Finland, because the strategies they used to win would have been far more costly had Finland been properly supplied. It was really an attrition conflict. Keep pressing till the enemy is too exhausted to put up resistance. Even relatively minor reinforcements of 10 000 and steady supply of war material might have drastically compounded what was an extremely costly battle plan initially to a catastrophic failure. But yea, Russia isn't run by Stalin anymore.
@@AlphaOmegaJMAC idk bro but capturing 30% of the territory of a fairly strong regional power that is getting supplied highest quality anti tank missiles in huge numbers by NATO in just 16 days is nothing to laugh at.
@@Reinhard_Erlik they are up against an army 1/20 their size with a tiny air force, no ships and very little armour. They’ve lost three generals by their own admission but only 500 troops?😂 something not adding up. They seem very good at bombing and killing civilians but less so actually fighting an enemy army, laughable logistics and low quality conscripts. They are all going to die if they don’t retreat. 2nd best army in the world? Absolutely laughable!!
@@AlphaOmegaJMAC Wait wait wait wait! Are you actually going to compare army size now? Russia isnt using all of its forces in Ukraine, the equipment the Russians and Ukrainians are using are very similar(in the Ukrainian war) Russia is sieging several major cities. By no means is the Russian army doing bad.
Russia's performance in Ukraine is disappointing. As for NATO, some countries are not as good as other peer countries. Long term fighting will put a strain on that countries logistic and financial supply chains. Won't know when it happens or it could be a repeat of history like in World War 1 and World War 2.
Wrong, unless Europe has 4 million artillery shells somewhere They never did though, after a month Russians would be wondering why there’s no counter battery fire, because the Europeans ran out of ammo
@@hyhhyyeah the Baltics proper hate this ‘clowning’ of Russia because Russia seized a land mass that is larger than many European countries whole size in less than a week
I sincerely believe with the EU it would be the other way around. They can squabble about ultimately petty issues like the migrant crisis (so no, they are not united in times of plenty), but an attack on member states is a different matter. They could have refused to go to Afghanistan because Al-Qaeda is a non-state actor, but they still helped defend the US, and that one was 20 years ago and with a state much more weakly allied than European ones.
144 million Russians, 446 million EU citizens. Russia’s GDP, 1.7 billion - EU’s GDP, 15.6 trillion. Waging war costs lives and money. Besides, it’s hardly an ”if” when it come to whether other EU countries would join in, it’s almost a certainty. If Russia could act unpunished, it’s only a matter of time until they attack other member states. I dont think Russian infrastructure and internal affairs could manage a conflict of this size either. There is so much more to war than the number of tanks and airplanes. Those are just my thoughts.
That is a bit skewed, however, by a greater level of militarism in Russia than most member states and significantly more efficient military spending. Plus it absolutely is an "if". Greece, for example, has basically no risk of being invaded by Russia, can't afford to pay for a war, and very little love for the de facto leaders of the EU so even if they do get involved they would probably drag their feet and commit as little as possible. Many states, especially the Med nations have been warming relations with Russia over recent years. Plus its far cheaper to defend than attack and I simply don't see most member states having the will to engage in a prolonged and costly expedition.
@@tsp312 perhaps in this certain scenario regarding the Baltics, yes. But I seriously doubt a war in the Baltics would be that contained. Assume it turns into a full scale war in Europe, wouldn’t everyone chip in to their best ability? Then again, if that was the case, EU and UK would join in too. It really depends on where you draw the line.
@@DiplexHeated Absolutely but it really depends on why the war started. Russia has no real reason to antagonise any EU member state other than hypothetically the Baltics or Finland so any war would either be this exact scenario or most likely would begin with Ukraine and in that case I'd imagine even LESS cooperation since that would either be aggressive on the EU's part aiding a non-member or the result of a forced and illegal invitation to join which itself would break apart the EU immediately. Many nations are under greater threat from Germany than Russia. I can say personally that in Italy the idea of Germany being the self-centered overlord of the EU destroying the local economy is far from a rare one. And I imagine that is only more pervasive in other countries under harsher circumstances like Greece or Spain. And it is inevitable that Germany would be seen as the heads of the EU war effort
EU isn't a war machine though.. like US and Russia... and its weak politically. Its got the resources... its got the money... its got the people. But has it got the unity ? Has it got the organisational capability? Only UK and France are efficent effective militaries.. really speaking... and they're small when compared to likes of Russia. EU could win ... if it switched up a gear in the face of crisis ; if not then it would be a toothless tiger. Heck of a gamble to take either way though.. whatever side is taking it. Its sort of 5050 which way it could go.. countries and unions can harden in a crisis.
@@joecater894 You're right, but the US and generally the allies were also politically weak and poorly prepared at the onset of WW2. The war changed that. War changes politics much faster than in peacetime.
I am glad you put so much focus on the most important aspect - politics, this time. Because no matter what great military forces the EU has on paper, the biggest factor remains whether or not EU countries would be willing to use them. I can practically hear the bickering already. *tiny german voice in the background* "But Nordstream is still a 'Go', yes?"
На удивление Франция и Германия являются самыми лучшими нашими друзьями. Они не в пали в слепое безумство как наши бывшие братья - Украинцы, эти 2 страны способны высказывать своё мнение находясь в европейском союзе который контролируется американцами. Да и то что родители Angela Merkel были гражданами советского союза даёт нам право считать её нашим человеком во всех смыслах этого слова. Это конечно фиаско, что взяв берлин советские войска отдали его половину американцам Французам и англичанам, но на сколько мне известно, только там проходит гей парад, что прямо подтверждает мою теорию. Кстати тут написано в wiki что Angela Merkel физик - химик действительно идеальный пример советского гражданина где физика была важнее экономики, как сказал один разработчик ядерных реакторов -Физик всегда может стать адвокатом, а адвокат физиком нет, вот поэтому я решил стать физиком
Even if they are willing to use them, getting them all to work together in a coordinated manner is no small challenge. Forces on paper may also not be as ready as they are supposed to be, with some of the equipment in unserviceable condition and some people lacking sufficient training. Russia has a lot of rusting stuff too, but they have enough stuff available to mobilize many divisions in a short amount of time and have proven in exercises that they are capable of doing it.
In times of war pepole get togheter ingoring their differences to fight a common enemy. The longer It goes on the longer the EU would get an advantage as Russia can't sustain a prolonged conflict of this proportions.
true, and NATO has to be taken into account as well but we can now see France, the EU's strongest militairy player having it's militairy basically call out the president saying that he either has to abandon woke politics and influence, and act on islam fundamentalism (wahabi shittery) and mass migration this is not a small thing either, an old saying is "when it rains in paris it drisles in Brussels" this had been aparant to Macron for a long time, months ago he had stated that American social science concepts (intersectionality which is just identititarian hierarchy for instance) are a direct treath to France. Did he mean it? well he scores significantly lower than le pen in the polls and has played into the wokeness, but at the same time he did not give in to an Iranian embassy's demand that during the diplomatic dinner no alcohol would be served, Macron ordered that the finest wines and liqeurs that France had to offer be served during the event, a chad move) bare in mind however, France has a history of being ......dificult when it came to NATO especially
I’m from the Netherlands, and while EU member states of course argue a lot, I think anyone who dares to attack us would elicit a response that would shake the world.
Just like the war of independence united the 13 colonies, such a war against Russia would give Euope's unification a large push. I dont think Putin would want to go there.
France would surrender before it was attacked, Germany would not allow its forces to fight because of its constution. Italy would put their tanks in reverse Spain would probably attack Gibraltar. Sweden Switzerland and the Republic of lreland would remain neutral.so it's Denmark, Norway Belgium and the Netherlands. Good luck.
@@positroll7870 That's right. Either we succesfully protect the Baltics and prove that the EU is a worthwhile project or we lose the Baltics and it is proven that the EU needs deeper cooperation to be able to defend itself more effectively. It's a lose-lose situation for Russia, it makes no geopolitical sense to do this.
To be honest I think if the EU actually would get full on attacked by an outside enemy, it could be one of the few instances where all member states work together. Like how the Franco-Prussian war of 1871 brought the German states together because they had a clear common enemy.
I really doubt it, the fundamental problem is that there is no european military organization wich makes coalition type ops next to impossible. The dominating military power structure in europe is not the EU, it's NATO.
The eu does have a military structure but its used on low intensity missions such as anti piracy, trainning, humanitarian aid and even air patrols over the baltics
The southern German states of Bavaria, Baden and Württemberg had signed defensive treaties with Prussia, after they lost the war of 1866 against Prussia when they had been allied with Austria. Later also Hesse signed a defensive treaty with Prussia in 1867. When France declared war on Prussia in 1870 the southern German states thus soon joined the war against France.
@Primordial Atom Russia would collapse in a week. Distance is irrelevant now, they'd be air struck to death. Their military, logistics and economy would get annihilated and they couldn't stop us.
@@khankrum1 Germany was stupid to fight against everyone, if it had attacked the Russians only, without allied help to Russia, and without help from other members of the Soviet block, things might have ended quite differently.
However, you must remember that he discounts the American presence in the area. We can put two Brigades of troops into Latvia from America in the span of 24 hours. American bombers would decimate Russian troops moving in the open. American and EU fighter aircraft would vastly outnumber Russian fighters in the area. Thousands of American troops would be deployed from Germany and elsewhere. It's the threat of all the combined forces of the 3 Baltic states, the EU, Britain, and America that keeps this scenario from playing out. Putin is aggressive but he's not stupid.
Yeah, you should probably dig in for a year of occupation before the rest of us manned up to "persuade" the Russikies to get back home (through military "pressures" and other Sicilian offers...)
@@peterblood50 Obviously Putin isnt dumb enough to start a huge ass war, im just saying that we Baltics would be fucked in any scenario our countries would get destroyed, few rocket strikes and most important infrastructures and bases are gone.
According forbes in 2020 russia only need 60 hours to take baltics. Man you are really fucked up. Even in the besy case scenario you will get bombed twice, once by russians and once by west. You beeter stay with russia in my opinion
@@mandikadesilva819 The primary objective of the NATO soldiers deployed to the region is to stall the invasion for 48 hours, at that time they can expect the first serious reinforcements to arrive. But yes, the national forces and NATO would stand against an enemy 10 times larger in numbers. But they have the benefit of being in the defensive role!
I appreciate it. The civil populations consistent history revisionist rhetoric, we never seem to learn from our past actions. Channels like this keep the conversation moving.
Lets be honest, even if Sweden and Finland didnt go in through Finland Russia could not risk it, they would keep alot of forces at Finland just incase.
@@alluraambrose2978 With our 3 functioning boats, and no logistics. We don't really go anywhere unless someone else drives us there, and supplies us there.
Yeah France simply departed from Moscow slightly too late and got wrecked by winter, mud and disease on its way back before the whole Europe ganged up on what was remaining.
Russia - *invades Baltics* EU: "okay everyone let's help the Baltics" Germany: *invades Poland* EU: "ey yo wtf man" Germany: "oh shite my bad"....... *invades France next*
Except it's not the Russian language, it's just the use the Cyrillic alphabet to phonetically spell out Western words. It's like me saying 'Rusky Yizick' and saying that that's the English language just because it's the Latin alphabet
@@arty5876 Yes, you did. But it's not the Russian language, only the script. But you were right nonetheless. I first thought what the hell are they saying, then my Cyrillic translator kicked in and I thought - seriously? Croatian humour ^^
@@tetraxis3011 lol Putin thought that they would win in 72 hours. He has even just imprisoned one of his ministers for not telling him the ukrainians would resist.
I guess this was a strictly air land combat scenario. But there are dozens of naval ships in the Baltic sea with air defense, anti ship, anti sub, and cruise missiles/ guns for shore bombardment. Germany, Netherlands, and Denmark have some decent air defense frigates/ destroyers.
@@Fuhrerjehova why wasting money on that you guys didn't do anything since 200 years after Napoleon tamed you and put a french family at your throne your basically north Switzerland
@@ommsterlitz1805 The main function of armed forces is to make sure no one attacks you at all. So I would say our boys have done a descent job. Bernadotte declared war on France and had Swedish forces fight Napoleon at Leipzig.
Russia has more. The Russian North Atlantic and Baltic fleets will keep EU naval forces busy. Large numbers of Russian anti ship missiles will keep the small numbers of EU vessels in the Baltic from disrupting the invasion, they will be on the defensive. Sweden and Finland will likely opt not to engage unless attacked and stay out of the conflict.
The Russians never seem to have many issues with motivation, morale and leadership in Binkov's world whereas their oponents are usually split. Plus, three Nato countries being invaded might have some bearing on the outcome.
Agreed. He has a heavy Rus bias...Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania don't resist in the slightest in his calculations. There would definitely be guerilla warfare if Russia managed to take all if one country
@@johnstamos4186 true. Like, are we really gonna pretend that the EU would ever esitate declaring war to Russia in case of an invasion? All of the eastern Eu states that hate Russia with passion would be mobilizing their armies so fast in such case. Not to talk about how Russia struggles even in times of peace to simply maintain its military and economy afloat. And let's also mention the fact that Russia would be probably taking the offensive and not fighting on their home turf, that would probably give the already poorly equipped russian forces another disadvantage. Tbh if nukes aren't used for whatever reason I cannot imagine Russia maintaining any sort of initial gain or advantage for more than some months from the start of the war.
@@I_FUCKING_HATE_RUclips totally, he seems to think that Russian and EU/NATO forces are equal, they are certainly not. Russia has struggled to upgrade it equipment and as much as the west complains about our own cuts NATO forces are very well equipped and very well trained. Russian Air Force are made up of mainly old soviet era aircraft that would be picked off from a far by nato forces, while nato saturated the airspace with decoys/drones/cruise missiles/etc to deplete Russian air defences until they ran out of missiles and then swarmed in to destroy any thing that moved! precision weapons is another massive advantage that nato has over Russia, as in syria the Russians will be limited with dumb bombs and cruse missiles and rockets (great for static targets or hitting towns) but not good against a fast mobile force. russia's navy wouldn't dare leave their docks where they would be taken out one by one from long range strikes leaving only Russian subs to try to break out to attack, facing a massive nato navy hunting them with ships, subs, MPA and naval aircraft all looking for them it would be suicide. in the long run, Russia would risk losing not only vast amounts of its military hardware and forces but also probably end up losing kalingrad and more than likely nato helping Ukraine regain its lost territory. Belarus could also be over ran as it has no nuclear weapons
binkov ignores a few things here, one of them is readiness, units are constantly training together within both nato and eu realms, the the eu rrf is on hand to respond hard, the intel and iron domes technology employed by eu nations and nato members far exceeds those of the Russians, and combined networked defense grids are key, if Russia attacks, its running a 10-1 scenario, losing ten units for every kill it achieves, wisdom says you need 3-1 to attack a defense, yet Russia can barely muster 1v1, and is outnumbered in the air by a factor of 3-4, even if it was just the EU, so even if those russian units made it to kalinin, they would be picked off very easily afterwards, and it would be a suicide run, and the end result would be them losing kalinin, its why investment in frontline stealth multi role aircraft by those nations has been key, as well as aegis air and sea domes, and in effect, its a massive radar curtain that covers the whole of europe, one that Russia has no hope of defeating without resorting to nukes.
@پیاده نظام خان Italy and Spain last I checked equal or even surpass the Russian GDP, Russia is essentially fighting 4 nation with economies from vastly superior to equal the level of Russian industry alongside many allies whom have competent industries as well. As war progresses the Russians would be pushed all the way to the gates of Moscow again.
@@Cam-sl8ve all of the things said in the video still apply to the EU Just look at the clusterfuck that is the current state of NATO Germany has *no* Leo 2s to send to replace poland's T-72s for them to go to ukraine and it will STILL take 2 years for them to make those The UK is proposing sending from its own national defense Chall 2 inventory to send to poland, and they're still using rifled guns/three piece ammunition The NATO RRF/QRF is still a sad sack of 3500 light infantry without organic armor or heavy assets like artillery/CAS The germans are still utterly reliant on russian natgas as is much of the EU And javelin procurement is so low that many NATO countries are sending from their own minimum defense inventories If the UK took HALF of ukraine's tank losses it would literally have no tanks to commit to NATO as it would jeopardize national security 11 countries in NATO SHARE 3 C-17s for their "heavy lift" under the strategic airlift capability program And here again, euro NATO members have like what 30 Heavy lift aircraft between them The UK clearly didn't learn from the falklands war where they had literally one chinook doing critical tactical heavy lift because the other 3 got destroyed
@@МихаилЧерников-п2т who uses gas to heat their homes nowadays? That's only in Russia and Easter block, Estonia, Latvia are mostly fully electric or on wood and Lithuania is halfway electric and wood. It's only Germany that buys gas from Russia and they can always switch to Norway if they want, it would just be more expensive.
EU area has larger army than USA has and there are numerous defense organizations for different regional needs and they all have joint HQ. In reality EU would strike fast and hard, the plans and decisions already exists for these scenarios and the militaries practises them regulary. Also Nordics would instantly attack Russia with full force as Baltics are red line for us. That alone would tie huge portion of Russian army to Finnish border.
@Duh Ni In 1989, the red line was the west german border. In 1990, the red line was the border of a reunited germany. In 1999, the red line became poland, czech republic and other warsaw pact countries. In 2004, the red line became the 3 former SSRs (Baltic states) . In 2014, the red line became ukraine. Can you spot the problem here ? Maybe the media forgot, the people forgot but archives do not forget. British diplomat said that if a reunited germany was in NATO, then the alliance wouldn't expand east.This repeated many times by west german officials. In december 1989, then US president george hw bush pledged that the US wouldnt allow NATO to expand if USSR allowed german reunification. Read these archives. If you still believe the west's story that such a promise was never made, then you either brainwashed or stupid www.offiziere.ch/?p=34955 www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html%3f_amp=true nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
@@GenocideWesterners and? These "promises" don't mean squat unless they are officially signed and ratified in the form of a treaty or other official document. Russian government (or rather the lack of it) has only itself to blame
@@GenocideWesterners No, i don't see any problems as it is sovereign nations right to choose what alliances they want to join, it was not forced on them, they just see Russia as a threat to their sovereignty and acts accordingly. Also Baltics being red line for Nordics has nothing to do with NATO.
@@GenocideWesterners It's not a problem. Russia has to understand that has no right to treat eastern countries like it's own influence territory. Every free country have freedom to decide about own alliences. Russia have nothing to this. Actually Russia is a safety problem for EU cause it's aggressive approach. For example military aggression on Ukraine Crimea. No surprise that countries sharing border with Russia are looking for alliences with western countries to counter that threat.
Well, This video didn’t age well. Don’t forget to update your computer simulation with the fact that the Russian army automatically face plants in a big pile of shit. Every time.
Let's get on thing straight: If Europe decides to take united action, if France's air force takes flight, if Spain, Italy and Portugal decide to have an actual navy again, if the German war machine starts rolling...Russia better start praying. #NoUSArequired
And before someone says "nukes" Putin is not an idiot. He knows nukes mean the total destruction of Russia. Do you think that's a price he is willing to pay for an ex-USSR state?
@@ruicorreia6373 Yeah, no one wants themselves and/or their entire country destroyed! Also, Putin might be a cold and calculating man, but I honestly think even he doesnt want to launch nukes at us unless we give him absolutely no other option, ie. we start launching nukes on Russia, OR launch a massive invasion of Russia, which is never going to happen.
I can't see a scenario where the US stands completely idle when a NATO country is attacked. Even if they didn't send troops, they would provide air cover, intelligence and logistic support and put Russia's navy under pressure.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Too bad, too many Americans are of Pole and Lithuanian stock. Don't worry, though. We got your back if you need us, but I don't think you have much to worry about
@@d.olivergutierrez8690 the key is to live as close as possible to a target that you know will get nuked. That way you’ll never know the difference if it happens and won’t have to play fallout 5
@@tankart3645 are these drones surveillance only or capable of something more? is there any amount of these drones in Estonian or Latvian armies? do they use their own-produced microchips/sensors in these drones?
@@ShatNdd In Estonia they produce everthing by themselves, or if needed buy it from the US only, or from EU if it is made in the EU. Estonians are very anti-China and Russia. Estonia is the world's biggest producer of stuff like supercapacitors, and has in place productions of batteries. Also they produce computer parts like processors and so on. Estonian tech is extremely high quality, and that's why companies like NASA, SpaceX and Tesla buy a lot of stuff from Estonia. Currently the only airborne drones produced are surveillance drones, but on the land side, there are the Type-x tanks, what are extremely good, but not really designed to be MBT's, but rather support vechile for MBT's and IFV's. But they can act as tank destroyers if needed. There is also the world know THeMIS program, that has been battle tested, and is operated by 11 armies around the world. Soon in 2030 there will also come put new unmanned battle ships and transport ships, in a partnership program with the countries around the Baltic sea (except for Russia). It will be lead by the Estonian company "Baltic workboats".
@@scoobiusmaximus9508 Nice lies, stop listening to western media only. The russians have been doing very well, considering the estimates said i 2 months easter Ukraine would be conquered, yet Ukraine has lost 30% of its territory in 2 weeks.
@@tetraxis3011 What estimates are you referring to when you say "the estimates"? From what I'm seeing Russia has for the most part stalled in its advance. It's bombing a lot of civilian targets and taking heavy casualties but it can't seem to take many cities.
@@lek8630 Hey mate, a month later: russia failed to capture Kiev and got chased out of Charkov. Mariopol Azovstal troops still holding... Yeah. Going as 'planned' lol. Wake up from that pipedream kid
Yeah, despite the increasing tensions and the last president of United States supporting Morocco Sahara, unless Morocco has the support of a great power, even in the case that Spain is alone it would be totally destroyed, Spain is the 18th military in the world while Morocco the 53th and with recent wars experience in logistics and attack of infrastructure, if the Moroccan government goes crazy and attacks it would be a swift but bloody deal, with all their infrastructure broken. Plus despite the situation, the government of Morocco is soo far away from the popular opinion of the Moroccan people that will lose support inmidately in a aggressive war against Spain, many Moroccan industries and people live and deal with international affairs and economical and will be totally against this for only two cities.
Also Ceuta and Melilla are just two small town i dont understand why u want to conquer them, i m italian and we have a similar situation with San Marino and Vaticano but nobody want to conquer a small territory like those
@@simoneradici5676 because they use as a smoke screen for other problems in the country. So they use false historical claims to rise up the nationalist spirit of the country
Read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War Russia did poorly against Georgia although eventually they won the conflict. A Nato country would be an order of magnitude more hard of a target.
@@minerran to perform badly is to force the enemy to peace in 3 days of war? By the way, Russia admitted in this war that it was not satisfied with the results and after that strengthened its army.
For all you Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanian people here in the comments: I am from Germany and I would fight to my death in order to guarantee your freedom. I want you to know that.
But your government has completely gutted your military. You might be willing but charging at Russian infantry with a knife isn't going to get you very far.
@@command_unit7792 In WW2 Russia lost 8.4 Million soldiers compared to Germany's 2.7 Millions. Those are numbers I would be willing to accept. Back then Germany was recovering from WW1, was bankrupt, the Versailles Treaty limited its army in every way imaginable, they had to fight on multiple fronts at the same time, their supplies were limited by sea blockades, their infrastructure was bombed to sh*t and had to be moved underground and Hitler insisted on wasting incredible amounts of personnel, material, time and effort on a massive genocide instead of fighting the enemy. If Europe (and Germany in particular) would perceive Russia as a serious threat, the German military-industrial-complex could outrun them with ease. Especially when backed by Europe, NATO and an unlimited supply of resources. Go and make jokes on someone else's expense.
You have to keep in mind that most Baltic defensive strategy focuses primarily on advanced asymmetrical partisan warfare. I realize the effect of this is nearly impossible to tell, though it is highly likely that Russian logistics would break down in the Baltics, at least for a while.
EU: We should do this Other EU: No we should do this Also EU: Nah we gonna do this instead. Germany: Ah fuck it.... *Panzer Elite starts playing in background*
Russian troops look up and move to intercept. But they didnt knew what they were dealing with. They should have known. At the horizon german plans come into view. Diving towards them ready to meet the russian Tanks in a ground battle.
Which says countries must help in whatever way they deem appropriate. In other words donating coffins satisfies the NATO treaty obligations technically.
Have you ever read this article? It says that NATO countries *HAVE A RIGHT* to help the country being attacked in whatever way they find appropriate. Meaning saying "we're with you guys" is enough. Moreover, they don't even have to do it. They HAVE A RIGHT to do it. They also have a right to never exersice that right whatsoever.
@@igorverevkin7709 have you? The article is not direct - you attack on one of use you attack all but still means that in other ways. Other than that: you need to know that each NATO country in Europe has always plenty of other countries forces. This means - in case of attack Russians probably would attack stationing Germans, Brits or US soldiers which would be direct attack on that country. The chance that NATO would not actively contribute to the defense I would rate at 2%.
@@TheSuperhoden and in your dreams :D Eu countrys weak and they dont have men for fight. in EU mens grow up like girls. they cant fight. without USA help Eu can not do any shit to Turkey. but Turkey can take islands and half greece.
Different title; Could the 11th ranked economy single-handedly take on the 4th, 7th, 8th, 13th, and 17th, with their sort of friends? Wars are economic. Russia doesn't have the economic power to sustain such an effort. And its lack of projectable air power cannot strategically target economic assets in the EU. In this it fails the same as China in Asia. The only thing winning Russia tolerance in the real world is EU dependence on Russian fossil fuels (which in this scenario, is now off the table, and by-the-way Russia's only real economic asset), US distance and cost of trans-oceanic operations, and sort of maybe China. Russia would be forced back due to economic flaccidity and risk losing its entire Baltic access in such an attack. A Scandinavian offensive wouldn't just be a diversion. Russia absolutely must set up lines at Vyborg and defend the A181 or risk an open door to losing St. Petersburg.
do you think the Soviet Union had a more powerful economy and army than Russia now? You are not measuring correctly, the one who has the most resources for war, human potential and food wins, and not the one who depends on the enemy for resources
@@perfectblue305 ussr never won any war with any other kind of decent power ever. (And no, ussr didn't beat Germany during wwii, the reality is far.more.complex)
What if find interesting is that old reputations are very hard to kill. Many people probably still think of Russia as a superpower that has almost unlimited manpower to spend. But in reality, Russia's economy is just as big as the Benelux's. And regardig manpower they are severly outnumbered by the EU.
Some people still think that this is WW2, where the russians have about as many men as the Europeans (they don't) and where they can just retreat east (they have roads now)
The fact that Russia isn’t currently a super power, doesn’t remove the objective of becoming one again! While the economy of Russia isn’t good, a war could easily be the kind of distraction Kremlin would love - and in fact, they already do it to some extent! The region in question in this video, the Baltic States, has strategic importance to Russia if they want to ensure unhindered access to Kaliningrad! There is no doubt that Russia want this, and there’s currently around 100k soldiers deployed in the region neighboring the Baltic states. Now to make Russia think twice before doing something stupid, there’s a, (in comparison small), force of NATO soldiers deployed in the region. Togheter with the National forces it reaches a strength of around 10%-15% of what Russia has. Now this isn’t enough for sustained battle, but it’s hopefully enough to act as a deterrent against hostilities - and if it isn’t, then their primary objective is to stall a Russian invasion for 48 hours, at which time major reinforcements will arrive... So let’s not pretend Russia isn’t a threat just because their economy is poor...
@@sockaccount8116 You mean, cut out one third... It isn't like NATO forces, or the national intelligence services of the Baltic states isn't aware that there's a possibility of internal threat. The scenario NATO expect before an invasion is Russia using the same playbook as in Ukraine up to the invasion and illegal annexation of Crimea...
Nah, so what they are NATO. US can choose to respond on its time schedule. No one talks about joining Estonia to Russia just say stopping geneocide by Estonian government. US would "react" just slowly enough for Russians to liquidate "undesirable" elements. The cease fire & move back home.
@@tomk3732 That's a tired argument that US's adversaries tries to push. To sow doubt that the US would get militarily involved. Do you really think the US Military would not get involved if Russia attacked NATO?
@@MrKeyframes US would follow its interests. If it was not in US interest to do so they would not. NATO does not force any obligations on its members. Its quite open. If it is in US business to act, it can act, if its not, it does not. Simple.
The eu, militarily, has already broken up with the UK going it alone, the french and germans joining forces, eastern europe getting closer and the italians still not taking a side (as the rest, spain, portugal, greece, etc. not adding much to the mix).
@Rob Schiller man merkt sehr das man hier nicht wirklich diskutieren kann und sie meine meihnung nicht wirklich akzeptieren. Ich bin der meihnung das wir von der EU mehr profitieren als dass sie uns schadet. Das sie diese meihnung nicht teilen kann ich verstehen weil sie bestimmt in einem Umkreis leben wo es ihnen nicht so gut geht. Wie auch immer sie haben recht wir müssen eine Lösung für diese schreckliche Bürokratie finden. Einen schönen Tag wünsche ich noch.
In light on the Ukraine invasion: Russia looks unable to project beyond their on-board fuel range, is unable to establish air-superiority, and combat readiness/training has been very sign
I think F-16's will do the job just fine, for a fraction of the price. Unless Russia is holding back waiting for us to get cocky and send in troops. It could be a trap! 😜
I'm not sure about the UK, but the US would likely suffer a second civil war if the current administration tried to get involved in another foreign conflict.
Considering that Estonia alone has 27000 troops (7000 regular + 20 000 National defense league), I find your 30 000 for three countries highly suspect. 35 000 marked as reservists? I will not argue with that, because activating reservists would take too long anyway, but that number is also less then just Estonia has in reserves. Your training times are also way off. First logical entry point for Russians would be from Belarus through Suwalki corridor to link up with Kaliningrad to make one big pocket and cut us off from allies. This just makes everything else much easier for them. Also if they take it by surprise it's extremely complicated for EU forces to break through this highly defensive ground.
I think the video has not aged well, since the video underestimates how ready and united the EU in general and the Baltic States specifically would be in case of a Russian invasion. The Ukraine War already gives a great answer to the EU solidarity in such a case, and Ukraine is not even a member of the EU. Regrading readiness the scenario does not account for any military build up on the side of the EU before Russia invades. It starts with a total surprise attack from Russia, which would and can not happen. The intelligence service of the combined EU would, at the very least, pick up on the necessary military buildup on the side of Russia. This would lead to an early reaction of the EU, there would already be many more troops in the Baltic States, Poland, and Finland ready to counter Russia's attack. Not only that, political and military plans/reactions would already be in the pocket of most states, even if they don't believe an invasion would actually happen, so reactions would be much quicker. With the initial State shifted at the frontline in favor of the EU and Baltic States specifically, Russia would not even get as far as in the simulation, which I think was too optimistic in the first place. Why? It might seem as if the countryside would allow Russian Tanks quick and large gains. This is true when compared to Urban centers, but anyone who has driven along a country road in Europe can tell you these are lined with small villages and even just a few houses every so often. When the roads were first established, they connected these villages and houses directly and go right past through them. There was no idea of bypass roads avoiding the town centers or having the houses not be directly by the main road and instead of to the side on a private road. Getting to Kaliningrad on country roads means having to pass thousands of such perfect ambush points jut following a single route. The Russians have three options, drive through hoping there is no ambush, send in infantry to clear the situation or drive their tanks and vehicles off-road around the point. The first is an obvious no, after the first ambush happens. Sending in the infantry means stop and go, greatly reducing speed. Going around means longer distances, and in many places only tracked vehicles can do so. This leads to logistical problems, tracked vehicles require extreme amounts of fuel, especially heavy armored and equipped ones. Then there are the forests of the Baltic States, while there are some large natural ones a look on Google Maps reveals that there are massive amounts of industrial groves and agricultural plantations. There is simply no way to get lots of Units to Kaliningrad from Russia through the Baltic States. Russia needs to go through Belarus if it wants to reinforce Kaliningrad and close the land way to the Baltic States. Unless Russia can first invade from Kaliningrad and establish a large corridor to Belarus, this would be taken as an invasion from Belarus and the EU would declare war on them. Suddenly, Russia and Belarus have a much larger front to defend. Russia gets a bit of an advantage with regard to attacking the Baltic States on a longer border and can add the Belarus Military to its strength. This advantage is completely negated, by the fact that it now has to help defend Belarus. The Invasion of the Belarus would increase the length of the Front against the EU. This favors the EU massively. I think there are also problems of the estimates of the effects of air superiority, air defenses and artillery. First off, air recon is really important for artillery, especially those with longer ranges such a cruise and ballistic missiles. To target enemies behind the frontline, the enemies position most be known. Sure, spies and infiltrating forces and satellites can give some information, some stationary targets are already known and there are some ways to track back and counter-attack artillery and anti-air defenses that have just been used. But that by itself greatly limits the usefulness of artillery. Air recon can greatly supplement the amount of data that can be used to fire at possible targets. Making it a great force multiplier. Russia's ability to hit things behind frontliners is going to be extremely limited, while they themselves would have to be careful not to amass any nice targets for artillery or air strikes. This means the ability of Russia to hold off Poland and the EU from Kaliningrad is going to be limited and not really effective at doing so. With regard to Air defenses, the European Air defenses were disregarded much too easily. Yes, if the Russians limit the use of their air forces too outside the range of EU anti-air defenses they can be technically disregarded, but this means that the Russian air force become a non-player. They can neither use them to get any information, deploy troops or attack, and it also means that they will be contesting that airspace only with their anti-air systems. This will actually reduce European Air losses and No, the Russian anti-air defenses are not enough to stop the EU from using their air forces to their advantage. Yes, the EU will suffer losses, but they will do so on the ground anyway. The EU will limit the amount of loses, by targeting the Russian air defense systems with every acceptable means. While the Russian anti-air defenses would still be a limiting factor and cause lots of casualties, the EU will still have a significant air-superiority advantage. The EU would still have an advantage if the Russians contested the airspace with their own forces, but it would be greatly reduced. Next, the limited number of Guided Bombs in inventory was made an issue, but it does not make sense if the ability of the EU to use them is questioned. Are the numbers low, and they can run out quickly in a few days or weeks, but only if the planes are flying that many sorties. If they are well, then there are going to be a corresponding amount of destroyed Russian stuff. Putting Russia in a very bad place. More like it's not going to be quite as bad, since looses and non-combat attrition reduces the amount of sorties flown. The number of sorties will also be less than one might expect. Unless the EU is desperate. Pilots and planes will be given quite some rest and be on standby more often, further reducing the number of bombings. The Air force commanders no off their limited stocks of guided bombs and will be picky about their targets. They will also mix in a number of non-guided bombs against suitable targets as well. Meanwhile, there will be an effort to gain more supplies of guided bombs. Both imports (usually excluded by Binkov simulations) and self-made. Note that Europe produces vast amounts of weapons for export. Many of those would be kept and used. So while there is an issue, there is enough to put Russia in a bad place even while waiting for production to meet the needs.
Another key factor in the air would be Europe's fleet of F-35's. Russia just introduced it's 5th gen fighter the SU-57 in late December, but currently only has 4. Binkov also forgot to consider that Europe would easily blockade all Russian ports in the Baltic sea, probably eliminating the Russia's entire fleet in the area within days. All Russia has on us is nukes, and given this dismal performance in Ukraine it does make one wonder if they're reliable enough to launch.
Man, the USA saying 'Bye, Felicia' and Poland having to actually trust the EU to back them up has got to be the stuff their nightmares are forged from.
Yes. In such scenario EU will leave Poland and Baltics on their own, the only hope is support from NATO (that is, Americans), because if France and Germany backstabbed Italy by denying them medical equipment when the covid broke out, as the very first thing they did I really do not see them waging war with Russia for Baltic countries
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Germany:
"Japan, you need to help us fighting back against Russia. While Russia is focused on the Baltics, you could use the diversion to attack from the east."
Japan:
* attacks Pearl Harbour *
Germany:
"Scheiße, not again..."
Nah Japan attack South Korea
Germany: who side are you on now
@RoastWorthy thx, i spit out my chocolate milk
😂😂😂
Japan: *ties Imperial headband on forehead and jumps into Gundam to finish what they started*
Germany "Niewieder Krieg "
While I do appreciate these fictional battles, I do hope it stays that way, fictional. The guaranteed losers in any wars are always the civilians.
Well of course.
Eh I think the troops on the front lines being blown to bits might disagree but I get your point.
@@Inspectorzinn2
They might, but they'll be wrong.
And this is coming from someone who spend more than a decade serving my country, with multiple deployments to armed conflicts!
Yup, you're absolutely right!
@@Inspectorzinn2 well sure. While I do have upmost respect for veterans and military servicemen, they did sign up to protect their country/cause and are aware of the risk of losing their lives. The civilians did however not sign up to this. I am also aware that some troops may not be too keen to serve or may even have been forced into that situation, however dire their situation might be they are still there to serve and protect said civilians.
Me living in Estonia 50km near the Russian border: Sweating profusely
Russian federation are not that dumb to make a war, don't worry , they're can be your friends
@@mohdnazreen5892 that’s true
Russia is a huge country and it’s not that dumb to go deadly war and many people die and economy gets bad
Invest in an air conditioner and neutral policies.
Russians don't like NATO bombers and tanks 40km from Russia's 2nd largest city either.
Nice
The real question: Could Russia defend an attack by the Baltic nations?
Without nukes?
I'm questioning that now.
Nah, Baltic nations can easily take Moscow if they wanted.
Russia is shite.
@@kazekamiha I think we can all agree that they can't 😆🤣
@Rogal Dorn but you're not going to nuke a country on your doorstep. One bad wind and you've second hand nuked your own people.
😂
I believe you should focus more on logistics. Yes it isn‘t as flashy as, this tank is better than that one, but logistics is what ultimately wins a war.
This is just a simulation, he does focus on logistic aspect but end of the day, all simulation
@@hiteshadhikari yes, but deploying tens of thousands Airborne troops, without talking once, about how to feed them, for more than two days is a very large gap
@@roadrunner6224 thats why after 1st wave all the following up waves take more and more space for resources, you have to establish line.
Paratroopers are send beyond enemy territory to weaken defenders and in meantime main army has to rush in and logistic chain has to follow. If the mission is fucked up by any element, its a risky thing
Logistics, training and morale all matter
@@hiteshadhikari actually thats the ww2 doctrine
Airbone is meant to be the fast deployment units not to go behind enemy lines. Tatics like this are very expensive when it comes to human lives. This was the reason the germans stopped using mass attacks with paratroopers.
Airborne is meant to hold the enemy untill the big guns arrive not that airborne units lack firepower
In my opinion, Estonia has one of the coolest flags in the world.
They're simple, but the color combination of blue, black and white just looks cool to me.
Yes, I love this kind of flags. They're simple and easily recognizable
@kuvikina i know.... I uhm.. just saying my opinion.
@kuvikina I do so stfu
@kuvikina I'm here to care...
I have the same feeling, maybe because I'm colorblind :D It reminds me of new Lufthansa liveries which are combined with dark blue and white. This kind of palette is very attractive to me
Why is this such a popular topic recently😂? As a balt: *sweats nerviosly*
*sweats in latvian*
Putin is hungry, I hope he doesn't decide to eat. Love from America.
@@infernosgaming8942 Hungry, yes, but the general consensus is that such a war isn't worth it for any side. The russians would be worse off than they started, and the Baltics aren't really worth the effort to aquire, as we have a small population and industry. Plus, the armies that we do have are specialised more in unconventional warfare, that is, even if the russians conquered the place, guerrilla fighting would be a pretty big deal, steadily making the effort of invasion even less worth it.
@@krebssfish9370 Dictatorships frequently start wars with their foreign neighbors even when it isn't in their own country's interests. They usually do this to distract from their own problems while uniting their nation behind the current regime.
Do not worry we have your back, EU brothers.
and BTW I think it will be a dumb move from Russia because obviously, PL, FIN, Ukraine will be more than interested to get back some land occupied by Russia.
The conflict will spread from N to S - in this scenario, it's all time Russia gaining a bit of ground on the EU - I do not think that will be case to be honest now.
Even if we like to to disagree between us in politics it does not mean when defense at sake, EU will not be solidaire.
Clearly EST states - the most playing games with politics recently, will change of disc, and we discover how much EU patriots they may feel.
I think FR and DE will play their role of defense. Specially France, we showed against Turkey we will not let Greece (EU member) under pressure of a non EU state (EVEN IF TURKEY is part of NATO)
Now, both of the side have nukes, and probably nobody will really want to use them, and a just pure classical war will be done (economy/men power/tech) and ... it is not actually in favor of Russia.
Because EU nations are not really in war mode currently, means we do not put so much money or effort (in term of part of our economy) in defense.
So as soon as we put EU in war mode, that will be another story.
Russia spend more than +4% of its GPD in military budget, EU it is barely +2% ... (Germany not even 1.5% ... I think our Bro from DE you could do effort, specially now UK is out) even like that we still are potent against Russia.
I mean Russia will benefice more to try to be friendly and work with us than trying all the time to be afraid us. We are not the USA (different foreign politic) however we wld like a fair and reliable neighbor, not one that wants all the time to potentially declare war that will bring nothing ...
Or doing nasty thing, yes, we are talking about you Belorussia ;-)
Still, peace and love from France!
More like "Can the EU save Russia from the Baltics"?
Finland: Should we risk another winter war?
Random Finn: “swigs liquor then dons shorts and plate carrier”
Wont be the same again... Stalin purged the entire military high command back then... thats why it went so bad for the Russians.
Indeed, the Russians got their asses handed to them quite magnificently during the first Winter War (and that was when Russia still had its Soviet Empire to call upon). I doubt very much that in the event of a European war with Russia, the Fins would be too timid in giving the Russians another lesson in Scandinavian warcraft.
Got asses handed? Yea, but with territories;)
And yeah, Just to mention. Finns got their asses kicked in 1944. What lesson can they teach us? How to loose territories once in 5 years?
@@ГеоргийМурзич What they teach you is to not try and copy German Blitzkrieg tactics in a terrain which it wasn't suited for because you may end up in a WW1 stalemate sort of situation.
If the french hadn't greeked on the troops they promised and if Sweden would have committed to more than profiteering off a dying nation, it could have gone a lot worse for the Russians.
WW1 style trench warfare isn't fun when the enemy has enough artillery shells and bullets to spare. Russians kinda lucked out that the rest of Europe just decided to ignore everything happening in Finland, because the strategies they used to win would have been far more costly had Finland been properly supplied.
It was really an attrition conflict. Keep pressing till the enemy is too exhausted to put up resistance. Even relatively minor reinforcements of 10 000 and steady supply of war material might have drastically compounded what was an extremely costly battle plan initially to a catastrophic failure. But yea, Russia isn't run by Stalin anymore.
Im from Lithuania, today Lithuania tested war sirens lol
@-Umut Deniz- We just test our sirens each year too see if it works.
We test them every month here in Finland
Does Russia move military assets through Lithuania to Kaliningrad? If so what is the attitude towards it in Lithuania.
@@rory6984 most probably not, that would be too risky for both sides
What a coincidence, in Ukraine, these systems today was tested too
I’d say that the expectations and capabilities of the Russian army should be reevaluated given the current circumstances
I dont see why you would think that they're lacking.
@@Reinhard_Erlik seriously?😂
@@AlphaOmegaJMAC idk bro but capturing 30% of the territory of a fairly strong regional power that is getting supplied highest quality anti tank missiles in huge numbers by NATO in just 16 days is nothing to laugh at.
@@Reinhard_Erlik they are up against an army 1/20 their size with a tiny air force, no ships and very little armour. They’ve lost three generals by their own admission but only 500 troops?😂 something not adding up. They seem very good at bombing and killing civilians but less so actually fighting an enemy army, laughable logistics and low quality conscripts. They are all going to die if they don’t retreat. 2nd best army in the world? Absolutely laughable!!
@@AlphaOmegaJMAC Wait wait wait wait! Are you actually going to compare army size now? Russia isnt using all of its forces in Ukraine, the equipment the Russians and Ukrainians are using are very similar(in the Ukrainian war) Russia is sieging several major cities. By no means is the Russian army doing bad.
If you’re watching this in 2022, I think it’s safe to say the EU would be ok fighting Russia.
Russia's performance in Ukraine is disappointing. As for NATO, some countries are not as good as other peer countries. Long term fighting will put a strain on that countries logistic and financial supply chains. Won't know when it happens or it could be a repeat of history like in World War 1 and World War 2.
In 2022 I saw Russia taking a Baltics-sized land area in a few weeks from Ukraine, which is 10 times as powerful as Baltics.
Wrong, unless Europe has 4 million artillery shells somewhere
They never did though, after a month Russians would be wondering why there’s no counter battery fire, because the Europeans ran out of ammo
@@hyhhyyeah the Baltics proper hate this ‘clowning’ of Russia because Russia seized a land mass that is larger than many European countries whole size in less than a week
"United in times of plenty, divided in times of Hardship."
- Random Englishman
The United states is the opposite
When you laugh the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone.
@@kpheark2222 I do agree with u good Sir hopefully its still true in the coming war with China and Russia.
I sincerely believe with the EU it would be the other way around. They can squabble about ultimately petty issues like the migrant crisis (so no, they are not united in times of plenty), but an attack on member states is a different matter. They could have refused to go to Afghanistan because Al-Qaeda is a non-state actor, but they still helped defend the US, and that one was 20 years ago and with a state much more weakly allied than European ones.
The HRE: Im I a joke to you?
144 million Russians, 446 million EU citizens. Russia’s GDP, 1.7 billion - EU’s GDP, 15.6 trillion. Waging war costs lives and money. Besides, it’s hardly an ”if” when it come to whether other EU countries would join in, it’s almost a certainty. If Russia could act unpunished, it’s only a matter of time until they attack other member states. I dont think Russian infrastructure and internal affairs could manage a conflict of this size either. There is so much more to war than the number of tanks and airplanes. Those are just my thoughts.
That is a bit skewed, however, by a greater level of militarism in Russia than most member states and significantly more efficient military spending. Plus it absolutely is an "if". Greece, for example, has basically no risk of being invaded by Russia, can't afford to pay for a war, and very little love for the de facto leaders of the EU so even if they do get involved they would probably drag their feet and commit as little as possible. Many states, especially the Med nations have been warming relations with Russia over recent years.
Plus its far cheaper to defend than attack and I simply don't see most member states having the will to engage in a prolonged and costly expedition.
@@tsp312 perhaps in this certain scenario regarding the Baltics, yes. But I seriously doubt a war in the Baltics would be that contained. Assume it turns into a full scale war in Europe, wouldn’t everyone chip in to their best ability? Then again, if that was the case, EU and UK would join in too. It really depends on where you draw the line.
@@DiplexHeated Absolutely but it really depends on why the war started. Russia has no real reason to antagonise any EU member state other than hypothetically the Baltics or Finland so any war would either be this exact scenario or most likely would begin with Ukraine and in that case I'd imagine even LESS cooperation since that would either be aggressive on the EU's part aiding a non-member or the result of a forced and illegal invitation to join which itself would break apart the EU immediately.
Many nations are under greater threat from Germany than Russia. I can say personally that in Italy the idea of Germany being the self-centered overlord of the EU destroying the local economy is far from a rare one. And I imagine that is only more pervasive in other countries under harsher circumstances like Greece or Spain. And it is inevitable that Germany would be seen as the heads of the EU war effort
EU isn't a war machine though.. like US and Russia... and its weak politically. Its got the resources... its got the money... its got the people. But has it got the unity ? Has it got the organisational capability? Only UK and France are efficent effective militaries.. really speaking... and they're small when compared to likes of Russia. EU could win ... if it switched up a gear in the face of crisis ; if not then it would be a toothless tiger. Heck of a gamble to take either way though.. whatever side is taking it. Its sort of 5050 which way it could go.. countries and unions can harden in a crisis.
@@joecater894 You're right, but the US and generally the allies were also politically weak and poorly prepared at the onset of WW2. The war changed that. War changes politics much faster than in peacetime.
I am glad you put so much focus on the most important aspect - politics, this time. Because no matter what great military forces the EU has on paper, the biggest factor remains whether or not EU countries would be willing to use them. I can practically hear the bickering already.
*tiny german voice in the background* "But Nordstream is still a 'Go', yes?"
На удивление Франция и Германия являются самыми лучшими нашими друзьями. Они не в пали в слепое безумство как наши бывшие братья - Украинцы, эти 2 страны способны высказывать своё мнение находясь в европейском союзе который контролируется американцами.
Да и то что родители Angela Merkel были гражданами советского союза даёт нам право считать её нашим человеком во всех смыслах этого слова.
Это конечно фиаско, что взяв берлин советские войска отдали его половину американцам Французам и англичанам, но на сколько мне известно, только там проходит гей парад, что прямо подтверждает мою теорию.
Кстати тут написано в wiki что Angela Merkel физик - химик действительно идеальный пример советского гражданина где физика была важнее экономики, как сказал один разработчик ядерных реакторов
-Физик всегда может стать адвокатом, а адвокат физиком нет, вот поэтому я решил стать физиком
Even if they are willing to use them, getting them all to work together in a coordinated manner is no small challenge. Forces on paper may also not be as ready as they are supposed to be, with some of the equipment in unserviceable condition and some people lacking sufficient training. Russia has a lot of rusting stuff too, but they have enough stuff available to mobilize many divisions in a short amount of time and have proven in exercises that they are capable of doing it.
In times of war pepole get togheter ingoring their differences to fight a common enemy.
The longer It goes on the longer the EU would get an advantage as Russia can't sustain a prolonged conflict of this proportions.
true, and NATO has to be taken into account as well but we can now see France, the EU's strongest militairy player having it's militairy basically call out the president saying that he either has to abandon woke politics and influence, and act on islam fundamentalism (wahabi shittery) and mass migration
this is not a small thing either, an old saying is "when it rains in paris it drisles in Brussels" this had been aparant to Macron for a long time, months ago he had stated that American social science concepts (intersectionality which is just identititarian hierarchy for instance) are a direct treath to France. Did he mean it?
well he scores significantly lower than le pen in the polls and has played into the wokeness, but at the same time he did not give in to an Iranian embassy's demand that during the diplomatic dinner no alcohol would be served, Macron ordered that the finest wines and liqeurs that France had to offer be served during the event, a chad move)
bare in mind however, France has a history of being ......dificult when it came to NATO especially
@@istoppedcaring6209 You mean the fact that less than 20% of French people supported article 5.
"This idea is pretty wild..."
You're wrong there, Binkov.
I’m from the Netherlands, and while EU member states of course argue a lot, I think anyone who dares to attack us would elicit a response that would shake the world.
Just like the war of independence united the 13 colonies, such a war against Russia would give Euope's unification a large push. I dont think Putin would want to go there.
France would surrender before it was attacked, Germany would not allow its forces to fight because of its constution.
Italy would put their tanks in reverse Spain would probably attack Gibraltar.
Sweden Switzerland and the Republic of lreland would remain neutral.so it's Denmark, Norway Belgium and the Netherlands.
Good luck.
@@timothylyons5686 lol and everyone else applies to college to learn to speak Russian..
No, seriously Putin don't want that EU shmoke
@@positroll7870 That's right. Either we succesfully protect the Baltics and prove that the EU is a worthwhile project or we lose the Baltics and it is proven that the EU needs deeper cooperation to be able to defend itself more effectively. It's a lose-lose situation for Russia, it makes no geopolitical sense to do this.
@@timothylyons5686 Got any more of those senseless stereotypes for me? I find them amusing. Because you are joking, right?
To be honest I think if the EU actually would get full on attacked by an outside enemy, it could be one of the few instances where all member states work together. Like how the Franco-Prussian war of 1871 brought the German states together because they had a clear common enemy.
I really doubt it, the fundamental problem is that there is no european military organization wich makes coalition type ops next to impossible. The dominating military power structure in europe is not the EU, it's NATO.
@@thomasbessis2809 Sure, but most of the EU countries are already in NATO, so the structures are there, they just need to be adopted by the EU.
The eu does have a military structure but its used on low intensity missions such as anti piracy, trainning, humanitarian aid and even air patrols over the baltics
The southern German states of Bavaria, Baden and Württemberg had signed defensive treaties with Prussia, after they lost the war of 1866 against Prussia when they had been allied with Austria.
Later also Hesse signed a defensive treaty with Prussia in 1867.
When France declared war on Prussia in 1870 the southern German states thus soon joined the war against France.
What is EU? And who is "outside enemy"? For me EU is enemy and i am in Europe.
Oh boy this aged well.
Looks like this question has been thoroughly answered. Russia doesn't have anywhere near enough the capabilities to defend against a unified Europe.
WWII. Germany thought that. Napoleon thought that too.
@@khankrum1 Americans bailed Russian asses with land lease
@Primordial Atom
Russia would collapse in a week.
Distance is irrelevant now, they'd be air struck to death.
Their military, logistics and economy would get annihilated and they couldn't stop us.
@@khankrum1 Germany was stupid to fight against everyone, if it had attacked the Russians only, without allied help to Russia, and without help from other members of the Soviet block, things might have ended quite differently.
As a Latvian i can say for sure even if war here starts with or without help of NATO or EU, we are fucked either way.
However, you must remember that he discounts the American presence in the area. We can put two Brigades of troops into Latvia from America in the span of 24 hours. American bombers would decimate Russian troops moving in the open. American and EU fighter aircraft would vastly outnumber Russian fighters in the area. Thousands of American troops would be deployed from Germany and elsewhere. It's the threat of all the combined forces of the 3 Baltic states, the EU, Britain, and America that keeps this scenario from playing out. Putin is aggressive but he's not stupid.
Yeah, you should probably dig in for a year of occupation before the rest of us manned up to "persuade" the Russikies to get back home (through military "pressures" and other Sicilian offers...)
@@peterblood50 Obviously Putin isnt dumb enough to start a huge ass war, im just saying that we Baltics would be fucked in any scenario our countries would get destroyed, few rocket strikes and most important infrastructures and bases are gone.
According forbes in 2020 russia only need 60 hours to take baltics. Man you are really fucked up. Even in the besy case scenario you will get bombed twice, once by russians and once by west. You beeter stay with russia in my opinion
@@mandikadesilva819
The primary objective of the NATO soldiers deployed to the region is to stall the invasion for 48 hours, at that time they can expect the first serious reinforcements to arrive.
But yes, the national forces and NATO would stand against an enemy 10 times larger in numbers.
But they have the benefit of being in the defensive role!
Binkov: only real peace can bring us together
Also Binkov: talks about war nonstop
Talking about war and its cost is the best deterrent I can think of
Analyzing war, equipment, tactics, etc. is NOT the same as advocating for war.
Edit : Thanks Larar
I appreciate it. The civil populations consistent history revisionist rhetoric, we never seem to learn from our past actions. Channels like this keep the conversation moving.
@Larar Thx. That was clearly a typo on my part
Lets be honest, even if Sweden and Finland didnt go in through Finland Russia could not risk it, they would keep alot of forces at Finland just incase.
And Ukraine and the East incase fearsome Canada is coming in again to save us Europeans.
If Finnish armies started showing up in Lithuania in this scenario, I think it's likely that Russia would attack Finland itself.
@@alluraambrose2978 With our 3 functioning boats, and no logistics. We don't really go anywhere unless someone else drives us there, and supplies us there.
@@hosmerhomeboy No worries, I will commandeer a ship in the name of the King and will come and get you guys.
Sweden and Finland would go on high alert but stay defensive.
EU: okay we need a plan to invade Russia
Germany, France, Sweden: Dont invade during the winter
германия вторглась 22 июня
France also invaded on june
Yeah France simply departed from Moscow slightly too late and got wrecked by winter, mud and disease on its way back before the whole Europe ganged up on what was remaining.
Invade long before winter*
@@zefyrisd69 Actually France lost more lives to heat exhaustion then the cold but it certainly didn't help.
Russia - *invades Baltics*
EU: "okay everyone let's help the Baltics"
Germany: *invades Poland*
EU: "ey yo wtf man"
Germany: "oh shite my bad"....... *invades France next*
😂😂😂
You forgot the end of the trilogy invade Russia and get kerb stomped a breath away from Moscow
Old habits are hard to break haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're forgetting that Spain breaks into half, Hungary invades Romania, Greece attacks Turkey...etc...
7:18 - English transcription on Russian language of "You shall not pass"
Except it's not the Russian language, it's just the use the Cyrillic alphabet to phonetically spell out Western words. It's like me saying 'Rusky Yizick' and saying that that's the English language just because it's the Latin alphabet
@@AeneasGemini yes, I said that this is "transcription"
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 yes, almost exactly. More correct - "ю шэл нот пас"
@@arty5876 Yes, you did. But it's not the Russian language, only the script. But you were right nonetheless. I first thought what the hell are they saying, then my Cyrillic translator kicked in and I thought - seriously? Croatian humour ^^
Vodka, vodka in the deep...
They're coming...
Hey Comrade, be safe out there. Thank you so much for all your hard work! Cheers from the Philippines
Judging by the recent display of Russian competence, I'd be amazed if they even got over the border
I think they are winners in russia if they get to borderline with their scarpmetal😂😂
@@jere9090 Maybe if you stopped listenig only to western media you would know the Russians are doing quite well for the first 2 weeks.
@@tetraxis3011 biggest joke of the day award goes to you😂😂
@@tetraxis3011 lol Putin thought that they would win in 72 hours. He has even just imprisoned one of his ministers for not telling him the ukrainians would resist.
Huh? Russia showed how well coordinated their army is. They advanced so far in just 16 days.
Russia: **invades Baltic states**
Finland: **Ieva's Polkka stops** "Perkele."
Yeah i live in the Balkan nation of Estonia
@@realmart3451 Right next to Serbia yeah?
Balkan
I think you mean "baltic", it kind of ruined your joke, sadly.
@@11Survivor fixed. Thanks for catching that. ^^;
Everyone's gangsta until a moustache man appear from a portal with his army.
@SR 71 he would give georgia Abkhazia and south ossetia back
Scariest part is, I don't know if it's Kaiser Wilhelm, Stalin, Hitler or Saddam Hussein.
@@Dylan-bc2po lmao
@@Dylan-bc2po its saddam cyborg from future to destroy USA
1:39
“I’m a sucker for air power.”
US: Staying out of things
Also US: Here have some weapons
That made me think of Oversimplified videos ! Right ?
@@Damocles16 That was the inspiration, yes
Oversimplified.
That myth and stereotype is getting old. There are literally AK's, T-72s and RPGs all over the world. Go shit on Russia
Oversimplified
The call to arms would wake Simo from hes grave, and Lauri would fly over states to fight
that sponsorship though, I like how the script tells you to say "finally" when everyone I know hates the addition of CVs
Lol. I get why they added them, and I rather enjoy having them... But I'd rather just stick to surrace vessels.
@@Deridus maybe they're different than the pc version, on the pc they're absolutely cancer to deal with
@@Just_A_Random_Desk xbox player here. They're not bad.
I guess this was a strictly air land combat scenario. But there are dozens of naval ships in the Baltic sea with air defense, anti ship, anti sub, and cruise missiles/ guns for shore bombardment. Germany, Netherlands, and Denmark have some decent air defense frigates/ destroyers.
Swedish politicians decided our stealth corvettes does not need air defenses 🙃. Oh well, our submarines would have a field day at least.
@@Fuhrerjehova why wasting money on that you guys didn't do anything since 200 years after Napoleon tamed you and put a french family at your throne your basically north Switzerland
@@ommsterlitz1805
The main function of armed forces is to make sure no one attacks you at all. So I would say our boys have done a descent job.
Bernadotte declared war on France and had Swedish forces fight Napoleon at Leipzig.
@@Fuhrerjehova The most awful thing about this Era is the homicide of Czar Paul Of Russia by the treacherous teethless english tea drinker
Russia has more. The Russian North Atlantic and Baltic fleets will keep EU naval forces busy. Large numbers of Russian anti ship missiles will keep the small numbers of EU vessels in the Baltic from disrupting the invasion, they will be on the defensive. Sweden and Finland will likely opt not to engage unless attacked and stay out of the conflict.
The Russians never seem to have many issues with motivation, morale and leadership in Binkov's world whereas their oponents are usually split. Plus, three Nato countries being invaded might have some bearing on the outcome.
Agreed. He has a heavy Rus bias...Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania don't resist in the slightest in his calculations. There would definitely be guerilla warfare if Russia managed to take all if one country
@@johnstamos4186 true. Like, are we really gonna pretend that the EU would ever esitate declaring war to Russia in case of an invasion? All of the eastern Eu states that hate Russia with passion would be mobilizing their armies so fast in such case.
Not to talk about how Russia struggles even in times of peace to simply maintain its military and economy afloat.
And let's also mention the fact that Russia would be probably taking the offensive and not fighting on their home turf, that would probably give the already poorly equipped russian forces another disadvantage.
Tbh if nukes aren't used for whatever reason I cannot imagine Russia maintaining any sort of initial gain or advantage for more than some months from the start of the war.
@@I_FUCKING_HATE_RUclips totally, he seems to think that Russian and EU/NATO forces are equal, they are certainly not. Russia has struggled to upgrade it equipment and as much as the west complains about our own cuts NATO forces are very well equipped and very well trained.
Russian Air Force are made up of mainly old soviet era aircraft that would be picked off from a far by nato forces, while nato saturated the airspace with decoys/drones/cruise missiles/etc to deplete Russian air defences until they ran out of missiles and then swarmed in to destroy any thing that moved!
precision weapons is another massive advantage that nato has over Russia, as in syria the Russians will be limited with dumb bombs and cruse missiles and rockets (great for static targets or hitting towns) but not good against a fast mobile force.
russia's navy wouldn't dare leave their docks where they would be taken out one by one from long range strikes leaving only Russian subs to try to break out to attack, facing a massive nato navy hunting them with ships, subs, MPA and naval aircraft all looking for them it would be suicide.
in the long run, Russia would risk losing not only vast amounts of its military hardware and forces but also probably end up losing kalingrad and more than likely nato helping Ukraine regain its lost territory.
Belarus could also be over ran as it has no nuclear weapons
Russian accent say anything?
@@kennymccormick8906 he is croat
I should be studyng righ now, but this frog has come with a very serious topic..
same for me lol
binkov ignores a few things here, one of them is readiness, units are constantly training together within both nato and eu realms, the the eu rrf is on hand to respond hard, the intel and iron domes technology employed by eu nations and nato members far exceeds those of the Russians, and combined networked defense grids are key, if Russia attacks, its running a 10-1 scenario, losing ten units for every kill it achieves, wisdom says you need 3-1 to attack a defense, yet Russia can barely muster 1v1, and is outnumbered in the air by a factor of 3-4, even if it was just the EU, so even if those russian units made it to kalinin, they would be picked off very easily afterwards, and it would be a suicide run, and the end result would be them losing kalinin, its why investment in frontline stealth multi role aircraft by those nations has been key, as well as aegis air and sea domes, and in effect, its a massive radar curtain that covers the whole of europe, one that Russia has no hope of defeating without resorting to nukes.
One thing I didn't saw mentioned, yet worth exploring is the far superior manufactoring capabilities of the EU industry.
Bmw *flashbacks*
Turning germanys car factories into tank factorys is a horrifying thought.
Yannick Fuhrmann That will be funny 😂
Italians: “Hold my beer”
@پیاده نظام خان
Italy and Spain last I checked equal or even surpass the Russian GDP, Russia is essentially fighting 4 nation with economies from vastly superior to equal the level of Russian industry alongside many allies whom have competent industries as well. As war progresses the Russians would be pushed all the way to the gates of Moscow again.
I think we can now confidently say that the EU + surrounding nations (UK etc) is more than capable of dealing with Russia's decrepit military
I honestly doubt it
@@oo--7714 why
@@Cam-sl8ve all of the things said in the video still apply to the EU
Just look at the clusterfuck that is the current state of NATO
Germany has *no* Leo 2s to send to replace poland's T-72s for them to go to ukraine and it will STILL take 2 years for them to make those
The UK is proposing sending from its own national defense Chall 2 inventory to send to poland, and they're still using rifled guns/three piece ammunition
The NATO RRF/QRF is still a sad sack of 3500 light infantry without organic armor or heavy assets like artillery/CAS
The germans are still utterly reliant on russian natgas as is much of the EU
And javelin procurement is so low that many NATO countries are sending from their own minimum defense inventories
If the UK took HALF of ukraine's tank losses it would literally have no tanks to commit to NATO as it would jeopardize national security
11 countries in NATO SHARE 3 C-17s for their "heavy lift" under the strategic airlift capability program
And here again, euro NATO members have like what
30
Heavy lift aircraft between them
The UK clearly didn't learn from the falklands war where they had literally one chinook doing critical tactical heavy lift because the other 3 got destroyed
Interesting as always. I'd really like to see an addendum to this video detailing operations in the Baltic Sea and on the sea in general.
I don’t think this quiz valid anymore. Could Russia stop an invasion by Luxembourg
Also, compared to the EU, Russia doesn't have an economy.
I can't believe how this dude doesn't consider economics!
And EU doesn’t have means to heat their homes without Russian gas
@@МихаилЧерников-п2т and Russians would eat Putin sandwiched in Kremlin's bricks without EU's gas money.
Ha ha Russia has more energy resources. Thabet all of EU.
@@МихаилЧерников-п2т who uses gas to heat their homes nowadays? That's only in Russia and Easter block, Estonia, Latvia are mostly fully electric or on wood and Lithuania is halfway electric and wood. It's only Germany that buys gas from Russia and they can always switch to Norway if they want, it would just be more expensive.
Cheers Binkov. Great vid as usual
Wooooo, I love your videos man!!!!
Is that your country new or old name i cant remember?
@@arrielradja5522 Old
I never expected someone from a small African country to be watching this channel but well no issue with that
@@octoriagaming1277 thanks
Imagine how strong EU would be if they invested as much as South Korea, US, China and Russia
EU area has larger army than USA has and there are numerous defense organizations for different regional needs and they all have joint HQ. In reality EU would strike fast and hard, the plans and decisions already exists for these scenarios and the militaries practises them regulary. Also Nordics would instantly attack Russia with full force as Baltics are red line for us. That alone would tie huge portion of Russian army to Finnish border.
@Duh Ni In 1989, the red line was the west german border. In 1990, the red line was the border of a reunited germany. In 1999, the red line became poland, czech republic and other warsaw pact countries. In 2004, the red line became the 3 former SSRs (Baltic states) . In 2014, the red line became ukraine.
Can you spot the problem here ?
Maybe the media forgot, the people forgot but archives do not forget. British diplomat said that if a reunited germany was in NATO, then the alliance wouldn't expand east.This repeated many times by west german officials. In december 1989, then US president george hw bush pledged that the US wouldnt allow NATO to expand if USSR allowed german reunification.
Read these archives. If you still believe the west's story that such a promise was never made, then you either brainwashed or stupid
www.offiziere.ch/?p=34955
www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html%3f_amp=true
nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
@@GenocideWesterners and? These "promises" don't mean squat unless they are officially signed and ratified in the form of a treaty or other official document. Russian government (or rather the lack of it) has only itself to blame
@@GenocideWesterners No, i don't see any problems as it is sovereign nations right to choose what alliances they want to join, it was not forced on them, they just see Russia as a threat to their sovereignty and acts accordingly. Also Baltics being red line for Nordics has nothing to do with NATO.
@@GenocideWesterners It's not a problem. Russia has to understand that has no right to treat eastern countries like it's own influence territory. Every free country have freedom to decide about own alliences. Russia have nothing to this. Actually Russia is a safety problem for EU cause it's aggressive approach. For example military aggression on Ukraine Crimea. No surprise that countries sharing border with Russia are looking for alliences with western countries to counter that threat.
Ooo a video about my homeland *takes out popcorn*
Well, This video didn’t age well. Don’t forget to update your computer simulation with the fact that the Russian army automatically face plants in a big pile of shit. Every time.
“All are we saying is give peace a chance”...
AHhhh 80 years of peace, had its chance, Craze EWWWers will try to get us to help, again...Nope, Not likely this time. (I hope.)
Sang a man who was shot dead on the streets of New York.
If we get Königsberg back in return, I would go and fight.
It should and will never return to us
Let's get on thing straight:
If Europe decides to take united action, if France's air force takes flight, if Spain, Italy and Portugal decide to have an actual navy again, if the German war machine starts rolling...Russia better start praying. #NoUSArequired
And before someone says "nukes" Putin is not an idiot. He knows nukes mean the total destruction of Russia. Do you think that's a price he is willing to pay for an ex-USSR state?
That's a whole lot of "ifs".
@@dirtypure2023 true, but the USA and UK not participating is also a big "if" xD
@@ruicorreia6373 Yeah, no one wants themselves and/or their entire country destroyed! Also, Putin might be a cold and calculating man, but I honestly think even he doesnt want to launch nukes at us unless we give him absolutely no other option, ie. we start launching nukes on Russia, OR launch a massive invasion of Russia, which is never going to happen.
I can't see a scenario where the US stands completely idle when a NATO country is attacked. Even if they didn't send troops, they would provide air cover, intelligence and logistic support and put Russia's navy under pressure.
Unless there's a civil war going on there ... And that is getting more and more likely.
The entire west is instable as never before
Love to our smol Baltic Buddies from Texas
(smiles) :P
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Too bad, too many Americans are of Pole and Lithuanian stock. Don't worry, though. We got your back if you need us, but I don't think you have much to worry about
Liked for 'smol'
Judging from the Red Army’s performance these past 2 weeks, if it wasn’t for their nuclear deterrence, Russians would already be speaking English.
Updated hindsight: big YES
Binkov your channel is Awesome. Your content is very well researched.
Binkov is starting a WORLD WAR 3 XD
He already did, have you even watched his previous videos?
it's all fun and giggles until the sun comes up at three in the morning
@@d.olivergutierrez8690 the key is to live as close as possible to a target that you know will get nuked. That way you’ll never know the difference if it happens and won’t have to play fallout 5
But you're forgetting one thing... drones!
Drones, Drones Everywhere!
...made in China and Turkey
Drones and cyber warfare
@@ShatNdd Estonia produces their own drones, and unmanned tanks. Also there is a drone production in Latvia.
@@tankart3645 are these drones surveillance only or capable of something more?
is there any amount of these drones in Estonian or Latvian armies?
do they use their own-produced microchips/sensors in these drones?
@@ShatNdd In Estonia they produce everthing by themselves, or if needed buy it from the US only, or from EU if it is made in the EU. Estonians are very anti-China and Russia. Estonia is the world's biggest producer of stuff like supercapacitors, and has in place productions of batteries. Also they produce computer parts like processors and so on. Estonian tech is extremely high quality, and that's why companies like NASA, SpaceX and Tesla buy a lot of stuff from Estonia. Currently the only airborne drones produced are surveillance drones, but on the land side, there are the Type-x tanks, what are extremely good, but not really designed to be MBT's, but rather support vechile for MBT's and IFV's. But they can act as tank destroyers if needed. There is also the world know THeMIS program, that has been battle tested, and is operated by 11 armies around the world.
Soon in 2030 there will also come put new unmanned battle ships and transport ships, in a partnership program with the countries around the Baltic sea (except for Russia). It will be lead by the Estonian company "Baltic workboats".
Seeing what's happening now with the Russian blunder of an invasion, I'm going to go with yes
Could the EU save Russia from the Baltic nations military?
@@scoobiusmaximus9508 Nice lies, stop listening to western media only.
The russians have been doing very well, considering the estimates said i 2 months easter Ukraine would be conquered, yet Ukraine has lost 30% of its territory in 2 weeks.
@@tetraxis3011 What estimates are you referring to when you say "the estimates"? From what I'm seeing Russia has for the most part stalled in its advance. It's bombing a lot of civilian targets and taking heavy casualties but it can't seem to take many cities.
@@tetraxis3011 And then they stopped lol
Looking at current events, Russian military couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag.
russia successfully commits advancing into ukraine while being outnumbered 400k ua against 150ru, what are you talking about?
@@lek8630 Awww russian troll, how I have missed you in the comment section!
Nah your wrong russia only use 10% of its military
@@rononoazoro7394 75%
@@lek8630 Hey mate, a month later: russia failed to capture Kiev and got chased out of Charkov. Mariopol Azovstal troops still holding... Yeah. Going as 'planned' lol.
Wake up from that pipedream kid
Hey man, Morocco invades Ceuta and Melilla, could the Spanish beat its southern neighbor? It would be an awesome video
It's not even a question, spanish army is by far more modern
Yeah, despite the increasing tensions and the last president of United States supporting Morocco Sahara, unless Morocco has the support of a great power, even in the case that Spain is alone it would be totally destroyed, Spain is the 18th military in the world while Morocco the 53th and with recent wars experience in logistics and attack of infrastructure, if the Moroccan government goes crazy and attacks it would be a swift but bloody deal, with all their infrastructure broken. Plus despite the situation, the government of Morocco is soo far away from the popular opinion of the Moroccan people that will lose support inmidately in a aggressive war against Spain, many Moroccan industries and people live and deal with international affairs and economical and will be totally against this for only two cities.
Also Ceuta and Melilla are just two small town i dont understand why u want to conquer them, i m italian and we have a similar situation with San Marino and Vaticano but nobody want to conquer a small territory like those
@@simoneradici5676 because they use as a smoke screen for other problems in the country. So they use false historical claims to rise up the nationalist spirit of the country
I like how "baltics not being destroyed in a week scenario" is not even being discussed
Read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War
Russia did poorly against Georgia although eventually they won the conflict. A Nato country would be an order of magnitude more hard of a target.
@@minerran to perform badly is to force the enemy to peace in 3 days of war? By the way, Russia admitted in this war that it was not satisfied with the results and after that strengthened its army.
For all you Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanian people here in the comments:
I am from Germany and I would fight to my death in order to guarantee your freedom.
I want you to know that.
Russians:"That can be arranged"
But your government has completely gutted your military. You might be willing but charging at Russian infantry with a knife isn't going to get you very far.
@@drawingdead9025 right. Its far away from numbers, readiness and quality of 80s Bundeswehr
@@drawingdead9025 be that as it may, as a Lithuanian I welcome him and his knife, we'll get them from the boooshes like the old days!
@@command_unit7792
In WW2 Russia lost 8.4 Million soldiers compared to Germany's 2.7 Millions.
Those are numbers I would be willing to accept.
Back then Germany was recovering from WW1, was bankrupt, the Versailles Treaty limited its army in every way imaginable, they had to fight on multiple fronts at the same time, their supplies were limited by sea blockades, their infrastructure was bombed to sh*t and had to be moved underground and Hitler insisted on wasting incredible amounts of personnel, material, time and effort on a massive genocide instead of fighting the enemy.
If Europe (and Germany in particular) would perceive Russia as a serious threat, the German military-industrial-complex could outrun them with ease.
Especially when backed by Europe, NATO and an unlimited supply of resources.
Go and make jokes on someone else's expense.
Video posted a year ago: this idea is pretty wild
Me today: yeah I don’t think so
The Baltic states are members of NATO so Article 5 would come into effect.
Nato is sh**. They would do NOTHING
@@dagger6432 What do you mean?
This is only a hypothetical scenario If the US and UK stayed neutral.
@@henning1152 I'm from nato member country. Morocco is invading us and no one does anything
@@dagger6432 , which country would that be?
Well this assessment went obsolete fast 😅
Given the performance of the Russians in Ukraine and the unity of the EU and NATO a re-evaluation video would be interesting.
Germany: i hope we are on the right side this time😬
Sweden, i hopp we are on one side this time ;)
You deserve to be on the winning side this time...😁
We all know Finland would handle Russia
Finland fucks shit up with Russia with rifles, petrol bombs and rain dear have to admire that in world war two. 🏴🇬🇧👍🇫🇮
I'd like to agree but I think you'd learn a lesson. Russia would likely FU Finland in 48hrs if it were a go...
I swear I am so tired of this meme.
@@cs-rj8ru History has a tendancy to repeat itself
@@thorthegodofthunder9150 people are tired of Russian fanboys that praise any Russian military and make it look strong lmaoo😂
You have to keep in mind that most Baltic defensive strategy focuses primarily on advanced asymmetrical partisan warfare.
I realize the effect of this is nearly impossible to tell, though it is highly likely that Russian logistics would break down in the Baltics, at least for a while.
EU: We should do this
Other EU: No we should do this
Also EU: Nah we gonna do this instead.
Germany: Ah fuck it....
*Panzer Elite starts playing in background*
Russian troops look up and move to intercept.
But they didnt knew what they were dealing with.
They should have known.
At the horizon german plans come into view. Diving towards them ready to meet the russian Tanks in a ground battle.
Turns out the answer is yes.
You forget one thing, NATO article 5 being triggered within 60 seconds of Russian aggression
Which says countries must help in whatever way they deem appropriate. In other words donating coffins satisfies the NATO treaty obligations technically.
@@Choros22 thank god irelands not part of NATO
Have you ever read this article? It says that NATO countries *HAVE A RIGHT* to help the country being attacked in whatever way they find appropriate. Meaning saying "we're with you guys" is enough. Moreover, they don't even have to do it. They HAVE A RIGHT to do it. They also have a right to never exersice that right whatsoever.
@@igorverevkin7709 your right NATO counties are actually NOT obligated to enter war according to the words of the treaty.
@@igorverevkin7709 have you? The article is not direct - you attack on one of use you attack all but still means that in other ways. Other than that: you need to know that each NATO country in Europe has always plenty of other countries forces. This means - in case of attack Russians probably would attack stationing Germans, Brits or US soldiers which would be direct attack on that country. The chance that NATO would not actively contribute to the defense I would rate at 2%.
last time i was this early, istambul was called Constantinople
That's really early
It still is in our hearts
That's no ones business but the Turks
@@TheSuperhoden and in your dreams :D Eu countrys weak and they dont have men for fight. in EU mens grow up like girls. they cant fight. without USA help Eu can not do any shit to Turkey. but Turkey can take islands and half greece.
@@kayacenk4164 insecurities lmaooo
13:45 russian reservists might be better equipped... Well, about that..
can we just appreciate how little ads he puts in his vids? a lot of channels can put 6+ ads in a video this long.
Have you thought about combining some of your scenarios,
For example you could do UK Russia and USA vs China and EU
Would definitely be an interesting one.
Non sense
Would it not be russia and china seeing AS they are loosely allied?
@@fiddibelow Now where's the fun in that
EU vs OIC(Organization of Islamic Cooperation)
Second Korean War(ROK, Japan, and US vs Russia, China, DPRK)
ASEAN VS China
Feat. Myanmar Civil War
Winners EU,us japan dprk, china
@@thor1696 thare won't be any winners
Isnt OIC killing eachother Lmao
That's not the Second Korean War, that's World War Three.
Lmao. Only in the land of make believe can OIC even give the EU a challenge.
Different title; Could the 11th ranked economy single-handedly take on the 4th, 7th, 8th, 13th, and 17th, with their sort of friends? Wars are economic. Russia doesn't have the economic power to sustain such an effort. And its lack of projectable air power cannot strategically target economic assets in the EU. In this it fails the same as China in Asia. The only thing winning Russia tolerance in the real world is EU dependence on Russian fossil fuels (which in this scenario, is now off the table, and by-the-way Russia's only real economic asset), US distance and cost of trans-oceanic operations, and sort of maybe China. Russia would be forced back due to economic flaccidity and risk losing its entire Baltic access in such an attack. A Scandinavian offensive wouldn't just be a diversion. Russia absolutely must set up lines at Vyborg and defend the A181 or risk an open door to losing St. Petersburg.
do you think the Soviet Union had a more powerful economy and army than Russia now? You are not measuring correctly, the one who has the most resources for war, human potential and food wins, and not the one who depends on the enemy for resources
Do you want to amend your reply now?
@@perfectblue305 ussr never won any war with any other kind of decent power ever.
(And no, ussr didn't beat Germany during wwii, the reality is far.more.complex)
I absurdly love your input, thank you.
What if find interesting is that old reputations are very hard to kill. Many people probably still think of Russia as a superpower that has almost unlimited manpower to spend. But in reality, Russia's economy is just as big as the Benelux's. And regardig manpower they are severly outnumbered by the EU.
Some people still think that this is WW2, where the russians have about as many men as the Europeans (they don't) and where they can just retreat east (they have roads now)
The fact that Russia isn’t currently a super power, doesn’t remove the objective of becoming one again!
While the economy of Russia isn’t good, a war could easily be the kind of distraction Kremlin would love - and in fact, they already do it to some extent!
The region in question in this video, the Baltic States, has strategic importance to Russia if they want to ensure unhindered access to Kaliningrad!
There is no doubt that Russia want this, and there’s currently around 100k soldiers deployed in the region neighboring the Baltic states. Now to make Russia think twice before doing something stupid, there’s a, (in comparison small), force of NATO soldiers deployed in the region. Togheter with the National forces it reaches a strength of around 10%-15% of what Russia has. Now this isn’t enough for sustained battle, but it’s hopefully enough to act as a deterrent against hostilities - and if it isn’t, then their primary objective is to stall a Russian invasion for 48 hours, at which time major reinforcements will arrive...
So let’s not pretend Russia isn’t a threat just because their economy is poor...
In war, the main thing is missiles, not economists. Russia has an army and weapons, which is still enough to bend the EU with its strong economy,
@@gorillaguerillaDK One third of Baltic states citizens are ethnic Russians. Feel free to cut those Baltic armies in half in any of your calculations
@@sockaccount8116
You mean, cut out one third...
It isn't like NATO forces, or the national intelligence services of the Baltic states isn't aware that there's a possibility of internal threat.
The scenario NATO expect before an invasion is Russia using the same playbook as in Ukraine up to the invasion and illegal annexation of Crimea...
Hey, will you do a video about the new British challenger 3
People played too much war games these days.
And that's got what to do with this?
Excellent analysis...! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Estonia is a NATO member, the United States is most certainly involved. These scenarios are unrealistic
Nah, so what they are NATO. US can choose to respond on its time schedule. No one talks about joining Estonia to Russia just say stopping geneocide by Estonian government. US would "react" just slowly enough for Russians to liquidate "undesirable" elements. The cease fire & move back home.
@@tomk3732 That's a tired argument that US's adversaries tries to push. To sow doubt that the US would get militarily involved. Do you really think the US Military would not get involved if Russia attacked NATO?
@@MrKeyframes US would follow its interests. If it was not in US interest to do so they would not. NATO does not force any obligations on its members. Its quite open. If it is in US business to act, it can act, if its not, it does not. Simple.
Yeah not only estonia... the entire europe is in nato except switzerland ireland serbia belarus and russia (ukraine would obviously fight with nato)
@@tomk3732 when you join nato, you are actually OBLIGATED to defend other nato members. you're making things up.
The eu, militarily, has already broken up with the UK going it alone, the french and germans joining forces, eastern europe getting closer and the italians still not taking a side (as the rest, spain, portugal, greece, etc. not adding much to the mix).
In terms of EU "army" yes you're right but keep in mind most of EU countries are Nato members with powerful allies like USA, Japan and South Korea
you do realize spain and greece are militarily among the strongest...or i didnt understand what you meant?
@@biodidu25 MLP doesn't want Frexit anymore.
@Rob Schiller i hope not. Greetings from Germany aswell
@Rob Schiller man merkt sehr das man hier nicht wirklich diskutieren kann und sie meine meihnung nicht wirklich akzeptieren. Ich bin der meihnung das wir von der EU mehr profitieren als dass sie uns schadet. Das sie diese meihnung nicht teilen kann ich verstehen weil sie bestimmt in einem Umkreis leben wo es ihnen nicht so gut geht. Wie auch immer sie haben recht wir müssen eine Lösung für diese schreckliche Bürokratie finden. Einen schönen Tag wünsche ich noch.
3:11 Belgium is also present in the Baltic, +- 200 troops in Lithuania
2019: I must be honest, I don't think so.
2023: Of course! And I won't stop until The Pacific Ocean.
In light on the Ukraine invasion: Russia looks unable to project beyond their on-board fuel range, is unable to establish air-superiority, and combat readiness/training has been very sign
And imagine how they'd fair against F-22's and Abrams
@@ragglefraggle9111 Ukrainian farmers are also very opponent to russia😂😂
Tough was missing from that sentence😅😅 tought opponent I mean😂😂
I think F-16's will do the job just fine, for a fraction of the price. Unless Russia is holding back waiting for us to get cocky and send in troops. It could be a trap! 😜
Finland unveils their Simo Häyhä robots and the Russians surrender
How could the US and UK remain neutral in this scenario? They’re both part of NATO.
I'm not sure about the UK, but the US would likely suffer a second civil war if the current administration tried to get involved in another foreign conflict.
@@Raving_Rando It would be a gainst russia so....
@@Raving_Rando What? No.
UK wont be jumping in to save Europe again .
The rules of these videos state that no sides have allies. So China or Mongolia can't help Russia
I think it’s unrealistic to assume that forces wouldn’t accumulate at the fronts before the war begins.
Yay new vid
The very first 🌚
Considering that Estonia alone has 27000 troops (7000 regular + 20 000 National defense league), I find your 30 000 for three countries highly suspect. 35 000 marked as reservists? I will not argue with that, because activating reservists would take too long anyway, but that number is also less then just Estonia has in reserves. Your training times are also way off.
First logical entry point for Russians would be from Belarus through Suwalki corridor to link up with Kaliningrad to make one big pocket and cut us off from allies. This just makes everything else much easier for them. Also if they take it by surprise it's extremely complicated for EU forces to break through this highly defensive ground.
Current situation in Ukraine pretty much points out how unlikely a surprise attack could be.
EU
"We need smart bombs"
Also EU "were not the US"
Binkov...
Lemme just slide this little jab in here!
Everyone talking about how we know the answer for certain now.
But no one talking about how Binkov said "as a gamer I have to say"
I think the video has not aged well, since the video underestimates how ready and united the EU in general and the Baltic States specifically would be in case of a Russian invasion.
The Ukraine War already gives a great answer to the EU solidarity in such a case, and Ukraine is not even a member of the EU. Regrading readiness the scenario does not account for any military build up on the side of the EU before Russia invades. It starts with a total surprise attack from Russia, which would and can not happen. The intelligence service of the combined EU would, at the very least, pick up on the necessary military buildup on the side of Russia.
This would lead to an early reaction of the EU, there would already be many more troops in the Baltic States, Poland, and Finland ready to counter Russia's attack. Not only that, political and military plans/reactions would already be in the pocket of most states, even if they don't believe an invasion would actually happen, so reactions would be much quicker.
With the initial State shifted at the frontline in favor of the EU and Baltic States specifically, Russia would not even get as far as in the simulation, which I think was too optimistic in the first place. Why?
It might seem as if the countryside would allow Russian Tanks quick and large gains. This is true when compared to Urban centers, but anyone who has driven along a country road in Europe can tell you these are lined with small villages and even just a few houses every so often. When the roads were first established, they connected these villages and houses directly and go right past through them. There was no idea of bypass roads avoiding the town centers or having the houses not be directly by the main road and instead of to the side on a private road. Getting to Kaliningrad on country roads means having to pass thousands of such perfect ambush points jut following a single route.
The Russians have three options, drive through hoping there is no ambush, send in infantry to clear the situation or drive their tanks and vehicles off-road around the point. The first is an obvious no, after the first ambush happens. Sending in the infantry means stop and go, greatly reducing speed. Going around means longer distances, and in many places only tracked vehicles can do so. This leads to logistical problems, tracked vehicles require extreme amounts of fuel, especially heavy armored and equipped ones.
Then there are the forests of the Baltic States, while there are some large natural ones a look on Google Maps reveals that there are massive amounts of industrial groves and agricultural plantations. There is simply no way to get lots of Units to Kaliningrad from Russia through the Baltic States.
Russia needs to go through Belarus if it wants to reinforce Kaliningrad and close the land way to the Baltic States. Unless Russia can first invade from Kaliningrad and establish a large corridor to Belarus, this would be taken as an invasion from Belarus and the EU would declare war on them. Suddenly, Russia and Belarus have a much larger front to defend. Russia gets a bit of an advantage with regard to attacking the Baltic States on a longer border and can add the Belarus Military to its strength. This advantage is completely negated, by the fact that it now has to help defend Belarus. The Invasion of the Belarus would increase the length of the Front against the EU. This favors the EU massively.
I think there are also problems of the estimates of the effects of air superiority, air defenses and artillery. First off, air recon is really important for artillery, especially those with longer ranges such a cruise and ballistic missiles. To target enemies behind the frontline, the enemies position most be known. Sure, spies and infiltrating forces and satellites can give some information, some stationary targets are already known and there are some ways to track back and counter-attack artillery and anti-air defenses that have just been used. But that by itself greatly limits the usefulness of artillery. Air recon can greatly supplement the amount of data that can be used to fire at possible targets. Making it a great force multiplier. Russia's ability to hit things behind frontliners is going to be extremely limited, while they themselves would have to be careful not to amass any nice targets for artillery or air strikes. This means the ability of Russia to hold off Poland and the EU from Kaliningrad is going to be limited and not really effective at doing so.
With regard to Air defenses, the European Air defenses were disregarded much too easily. Yes, if the Russians limit the use of their air forces too outside the range of EU anti-air defenses they can be technically disregarded, but this means that the Russian air force become a non-player. They can neither use them to get any information, deploy troops or attack, and it also means that they will be contesting that airspace only with their anti-air systems. This will actually reduce European Air losses and No, the Russian anti-air defenses are not enough to stop the EU from using their air forces to their advantage. Yes, the EU will suffer losses, but they will do so on the ground anyway. The EU will limit the amount of loses, by targeting the Russian air defense systems with every acceptable means. While the Russian anti-air defenses would still be a limiting factor and cause lots of casualties, the EU will still have a significant air-superiority advantage. The EU would still have an advantage if the Russians contested the airspace with their own forces, but it would be greatly reduced.
Next, the limited number of Guided Bombs in inventory was made an issue, but it does not make sense if the ability of the EU to use them is questioned. Are the numbers low, and they can run out quickly in a few days or weeks, but only if the planes are flying that many sorties. If they are well, then there are going to be a corresponding amount of destroyed Russian stuff. Putting Russia in a very bad place. More like it's not going to be quite as bad, since looses and non-combat attrition reduces the amount of sorties flown. The number of sorties will also be less than one might expect. Unless the EU is desperate. Pilots and planes will be given quite some rest and be on standby more often, further reducing the number of bombings. The Air force commanders no off their limited stocks of guided bombs and will be picky about their targets. They will also mix in a number of non-guided bombs against suitable targets as well. Meanwhile, there will be an effort to gain more supplies of guided bombs. Both imports (usually excluded by Binkov simulations) and self-made. Note that Europe produces vast amounts of weapons for export. Many of those would be kept and used.
So while there is an issue, there is enough to put Russia in a bad place even while waiting for production to meet the needs.
Another key factor in the air would be Europe's fleet of F-35's. Russia just introduced it's 5th gen fighter the SU-57 in late December, but currently only has 4. Binkov also forgot to consider that Europe would easily blockade all Russian ports in the Baltic sea, probably eliminating the Russia's entire fleet in the area within days. All Russia has on us is nukes, and given this dismal performance in Ukraine it does make one wonder if they're reliable enough to launch.
Man, the USA saying 'Bye, Felicia' and Poland having to actually trust the EU to back them up has got to be the stuff their nightmares are forged from.
Yes. In such scenario EU will leave Poland and Baltics on their own, the only hope is support from NATO (that is, Americans), because if France and Germany backstabbed Italy by denying them medical equipment when the covid broke out, as the very first thing they did I really do not see them waging war with Russia for Baltic countries
Problem for Russia is, Poland is not Ukraine. Won`t give up our country even if millions die.
I don't know where he got his numbers but the reserve personnel of Estonia alone without the Defence League is 60 000 troops....
Yes and Reserve of Lithuania is 90 000. We also have 20 000 professional army and thousands of paramilitary soldiers.
As an Estonian who has researched this stuff a little I can say it is 90 000+now by 2022 or 2023