For those who are not familiar with Joe Lewis ( not to be confused with Joe Louis, different champion): He's widely considered as one of the greatest competitive full-contact kickboxing fighters of all time, he pioneered pretty much full-contact Karate & specially Kickboxing in the US. Hell, the guy was the inspiration for Ken Masters from the Streetfighter videogames!
Yes speed equals power ! My teacher was phoned by Bruce when he was in Hong Kong & he was going to come & see his style. Unfortunately he didn’t make it home from there. Greg Lee his god son claimed he was killed ! No way of proving that.
Bruce do that one better than any one ...ues 4 inches of tree . Hit the right part of foot . Side kick . Lifts just a touch . Cant do it in my sixties .... kato longstreet. Marlow .. he was suppose get kung fu 32 dead 81 nov27 2021. Dreams die hard pigs live long.
Los artistas marciales y luchadores de los 70 nos enseñaban un camino,no quiero decir que unos sean más,todos fueron magnificos,extraordinarios,todos ellos fueron un equipo de maestros,uno hacia de malo o de alumno,para que otro haga de bueno o de maestro,todos ellos nos influyeron positivamente,los artistas marciales y luchadores de los 70 estan casi extinguidos por el tiempo,espero que los nuevos encuentren la hermosa filosofía marcial
The scene with Joe from The Fall Guy was a copy of Bruce's scene with James Franciscus from Longstreet. Longstreet predated The Fall Guy by about 10 years.
Bruce simply was...something truly special. WAY...ahead of his time. His blinding speed & technique created enormous kinetic energy that allowed him to hit like a heavy weight, even though he was so light in body weight. Phenomenal man...greatly missed. HOO-YAH & God Bless Master Bruce's soul.
Have you ever seen him in real fight ? " blinding speed & technique created enormous kinetic energy that allowed him to hit like a heavy weight, even though he was so light in body weight " . ALL IS ACTING NOTHING REAL . Bruce lee would die if he went in real MMA fight
@@Customer22374 Apparently, if you had ever had the chance to meet Master Bruce, you too would have been one of those who was absolutely STUNNED...by what he could do. Spend time studying him and those who knew & interacted with him...you might find your opinion changing if you are honest with yourself and the factual evidence. ;)
@@Customer22374 Sorry bro i don't agree with you. May be he wasn't the best fighter but to label his hardwork and training as acting is not right...It would take years to even copy what Bruce did on screen...
@@Customer22374 is bruce alive today , so you have proof of what you say and claim ? i take it and guess that , if he had still lived today , he had developed his art and learned to be more effective , . but no one can no for sure how he had stand up to other fighters of today since he is dead , but you talking aboute him as you seen him these days fighting others .
@@Customer22374 A few years since i would have agreed with you, i figured Bruce Lee was just an actor who was quite good at martial arts but after researching he was apparently incredibly legit, though he didn't fight professionally as a sport, he regularly sparred with the best and was considered untouchable, a great martial artist by all accounts.
Joe gave a lot of credit to Bruce as his martial arts Mentor and they were good friends I just wish that Joe had been in Way of the Dragon or Enter the Dragon.
@@ericvanjames8395 Bruce Lee was an actor. From his young childhood he was an actor. His father was a famous Chinese Opera singer-actor. Joe Lewis, Jim Kelly and Chuck Norris were full contact professional fighters. Trying to break into the action movie business. Bruce met them all when he was co-starring in The Green Hornet in 1967. (Get it?) Bruce Lee's first (and only) real fight was November 1964 against Northern Longfist and Xingyiquan teacher Wong Jack-Man. Yes I know all 7 versions of the story. I also know that after the fight Bruce Lee tossed most of his Wing Chun out the window, bashed Southern Kung Fu as ineffective... And started working out with Tae Kwan Do kicking master Jhoon Rhee, learned some Northern Praying Mantis, got obsessive with his cardio & conditioning, started training with full contact Karate champions; and put together a fighting philosophy that looks made to cope with Northern Longfist and Xingyiquan. I think we know who was doing most of the teaching when Bruce the childhood actor who learned Sil Lum Tao and half of Chum Kiu forms of the punching only Wing Chun system before coming to the US... met up with the seriously trained full contact fighters.
joe may not be a big movie star but sure was the first kickboxer. one is a martial artist while the other a fighter. two different people who contribute to the martial arts.
Very interesting to see these 2 acting reels of essentially the same scene. No knock against Joe...but Bruce just naturally has so much more intensity and charisma...his version is just sooo much more dramatic! You can see why he became a movie star, because anytime he showed up onscreen, he just stole the entire spotlight.
@@stevo62ful Once again, Mr. Ferry...just because Bruce didn't perform for you, doesn't mean he wasn't what he actually was/is. A very lethal man who trained for real world combat. Perhaps he might have lost in a ring...with rules, etc., but in the real world...he would have been lethal, if he fully unleashed himself. Again...do the proper, lengthy, research and I'm sure you will actually begin to appreciate what Bruce brought to the table. Even Joe Lewis recognized this. Especially after their final clash that ended their time training together...which is why Lewis said that he knew how hard Bruce could hit. Disrespecting such a great man as Bruce, after his death, is a sissy move. However, believe whatever you want.
@@BrotherPatriot I'm not disrespecting Bruce, I'm keeping an open mind due to lack of evidence and not buying into the fanboy mentality of believing what I want to be true. All this "Do the research" talk from you fanboys, yet I am still waiting for a verifiable real fight opponent. The only disrespect is by fanboys toward Bruce's peers, mainly Chuck Norris, because they won't admit to losing to Bruce even though there is no evidence of them fighting. Dress it up anyway you want, but I have copied and pasted many times, Joe saying Bruce was not a fighter.
I don't understand why they always have to put one martial artist against the other one because of their art, I studied tae Quan do at an early age and we always respected each other for the art, it's the people who don't understand it that talks the most, if they study up on it they will have a better understanding of what it's about.
well , you se , what others have not seen with their own eyes is not real and was not real , it did not happen , even though people who saw bruce in person at place when he did his thing that stil live today are telling us of today how good he was and what he did and could do back then , doesnt matter , they just have made up their mind aboute it , it just cant be , didnt happen .
I think it's human nature to compare people to one another I think we tend to get carried away with it.i spoke to Joe over the phone in 1991,the guy was a joy to talk to,super articulate.interestly,we didn't mention Bruce not once,guess I was too excited talking to a living legend.R.I.P to Bruce& Joe.
Trained with Taky Kimura,. He had one of these air Shields. If you notice the shield Joe Lewis is using is in the air shield. This used to be one of Bruce's favorite tricks to pull on people, it's physics, as you kick the air shield it compresses then acts like a spring and shoot you back along with Bruce's sidekick. Not really a fair comparison with Joe Lewis's shield. 🙏🙏🙏🐲
Бой Брюс Ли и Джо Льюис происходил за закрытой дверью. Этот бой остался тайной. Джо Льюис отказался играть в фильме ,, Путь дракона,,. Его роль сыграл Чак норис. Огромная потеря для фанатов Брюс Ли и Джо Льюис. Их бой на экране стал бы шедевром боевого кино.
At Lewis and Bruce time the real deal were : Jon Bluming, Wim Ruska, Anton Geesink, Chris Dolman, Ivan Bogdan, Carley Gracie, Dominique Valera, Jan Plas, Fred Royers, Otti Roethoff, Ludwig Kotzebue, John Reeberg, Gilbert Gruss, Masutatsu Oyama, Rob Kaman, Ramon Dekkers, Mohammed Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, many other individuals and the Muay Thai champions, the Savate World champions, the Sambo world champions, the Vale Tudo world champions, all above Lewis and Lee in fighting in the ring or in the streets.
The parallel side thrust kick is unblockable and unstoppable, the only successful way to counter being hurt by it is to side step our of the direct line or leap backwards very quickly. It is surprising that MMA fighters haven't caught on to this devastating kick
Doesn't work very well in actual fighting. Now some do use it and do very well with it, one of classmates is an example, but it takes years and years of serious practice to get and it's still a limited options/situations. Because you absolutely can not do what Lee does on film. You can't be 2 large steps outside of Long range... and run into a trained fighter as they stand there. And were you hitting a person who's in a turned fighting guard? (If you can even hit them because side kick is the slowest kick besides a spinning back thrust.) You can't use a side kick's best target in MMA: the knee. The other main target is the ribs. You're not getting them either. Then there's high risk very low chance side kick to the jaw. Because unlike a roundhouse, crescent, whip, spinning heel, moon, and star kicks... you don't have the temple, back the head or cheek. You need to come under the jaw or right into the chin. Side kick is a follow up kick in a combo where you know how to open a person's ribcage. Roundhouse left kick to head into a roundhouse right kick to head with immediate right straight to the head where you slide your back leg, left leg, in closer as your opponents guard up from all the headhunting you just did... So he doesn't see the quick right knee chamber that's going to your left side... If his left arm is out great grab it as you best him the ribs with the side kick. Idk. Kinda a pain. But if it connects you're cracking a rib. What also works but isn't that powerful is flick a rough kick at their head, but your knee never drops. When your foot comes back you send it right out into those open ribs. But I do different. I have it go into a hook/whip kick into the jaw or across the face. I just don't like the kick. You really have to be in medium to close range to use it and I rather be doing something else in those ranges. And it's easy to slip/dodge or side step and grab. Person is leaning more with side so easy to take them down. Or a number of other options. If you don't avoid it it's easy to block. Just have to watch it from sliding under your lead arm. So in my opinion that's why it's rarely seen. You probably see it more than you think too. It's just not remembered because it doesn't pay off.
@@Chronicskillness If you can adapt to the situation, it can work. Just like how the 4 inch punch can be used to force an opponent off balance if used correctly, the same thing can be said about the side kick " If used correctly!"
Bruce Lee was the fastest man on the whole planet. Bruce Lee was the best fighter ever in the history of fighters in the universe. Bruce Lee could walk on water. Bruce Lee taught Leo Sayer how to grow hair. Bruce Lee invented wheelbarrows . Bruce Lees' real name was Luce Bree. Bruce Lee grew steel pubes. Bruce Lee ate bricks for breakfast and horses for lunch. Bruce Lee caused Terry Nutkins fingers to fall off by blowing on them. Bruce Lee put the sticky stuff on envelopes using ninja telepathy. Bruce Lee was part man part gerbil. I met Bruce Lee once and my liver imploded. I also suffer from mythomania.
Joe Lewis acted that part out because "U know " actor couldn't really get hurt. He'll miss takes because of injuries. Bruce & James Francisco however their was No contractual agreement if U get Hurt That's Show Business
Hmmm, Joes recipient is 90% acting/cooperaring. As well he should obviously, cuz its a film. But Bruce's recipient is 10% acting/cooperating. His shuffleing of his feet is not one of locomotion but one of desperately trying to keep it under his center of gravity (his hip).
Jesus...really? Joe turned Bruce down for Way of the Dragon because he didn't want to lose onscreen, then attempted to start his own action career with cringe-classics like Force Five and Jaguar Lives. Here, he or the screenwriter or both lift a scene verbatim from Longstreet and the results ain't much better. As for Bruce and Joe in real life, Lee historian John Little recently talked about an incident witnessed by Ted Wong, where Joe was sparring with student Herb Jackson and almost busted the man's eardrum with a deliberate open-hand slap. Bruce then asked for Herb's gloves and, in Little's words, showed Joe he didn't have all the answers-which, by the way, contradicts his lifelong assertion that Bruce never sparred with him.
Depends who you believe, Joe or a guy who told another guy. I don't know which is true. I only believe what I can see, and I've never seen Bruce in a real fight.
seems like it's not just how hard you kick but where you kick relative to the holder. Howie kicked Joe too low (ie his kicking leg wasn't parallel to floor) and bad form with his kicking leg's knee pointing down. Joe kicked Howie with his kicking leg parallel, which gives good power. Bruce in this scene kicked with his leg that rose upwards which hits the holder target more at chest area making it easier to knock holder backward backwards. IMHO Joe's kick would have hurt more, even though it locked like the knock down was acted out.
De hecho paso, Joe Lewis fue destruido por Bruce Lee en una pelea. Fue Bruce Lee quien le enseñó a Lewis la diferencia de un combate de contacto de uno de Punto, Lewis afirmó en entrevista que jamás pudo ganarle a Bruce Lee y que cuando entrenaban Bruce Lee era amable con él (Osea que Bruce Lee era amable con Joe Lewis).
Tanta fantasia, no duraba 1 round con urquidez, los expertos determinaron esto hace años y cualquier maestro marcial real como yo, por ejemplo lo sabe. No hay que creerse las leyendas completas, solo son lo que son leyendas
@@demonofthefallnet?????? De quién hablas?. Lo de que Bruce Lee derrotó a Joe Lewis es verdad, incluso hay un video donde Bruce Lee a pura patada sin puños lo venció como si nada. Por otro lado Joe Lewis afirmó que no podía vencerlo en entrevistas, incluso lo dijo muchos años después de participar y promover EL Full contac. Ten presente que Joe fue alumno de Bruce Lee y según afirmó Joe, fue Bruce Lee quien lo inspiró a meterse de lleno a las peleas de contacto. Tanto así que después se metió a Full contac.
@@demonofthefallnet jajajajajajaj se nota la ignorancia ... cuantas veces Lewis conto que Bruce era la única persona que le daba miedo y por eso jamás lo reto a un duelo real. Benny Urquidez durante el rodaje de la película "Kuai can che" le conto a los otros integrantes de la película (Jackie Chang, Yuen Biao y Keith Vitali) que vio una lucha real de Bruce en Seatle en 1969 donde un maestro de taekwondo lo reto a un combate sin reglas y bruce lo venció en menos de 1 minuto. Benny tenia 18 años. Jackie a contado varios retos que tuvo Bruce, también Ed Parker y sobre todo Dan Inosanto. Este ultimo en una entrevista para BBC a fines de los 80 menciono que por lo menos vio unas 10 veces peleas reales de bruce y en la mayoría los que lo retaban eran maestros, estudiantes, dobles de acción o simples aprendices. Los otros que han comentado peleas reales fueron los denominados "7 pequeñas fortunas" que eran un grupo de artistas marciales, maestros y coreógrafos tales como el mismo Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao, Corey Yuen o Yuen Wa. Por algo Dan Inosanto después de ver la entrevista a Chuck Norris donde este ultimo decía que Bruce jamás participo de un torneo y que solo era un actor de películas, Inosanto le recordó que Bruce había barrido el piso con el en Roma. Y Chuck no le respondió porque sabia que Dan tenia razón y fue testigo de eso. Norris quedo como mentiroso. Bolo Young también comento una de las tantas peleas reales que Bruce tuvo ruclips.net/video/io07tWifMfQ/видео.html
@@demonofthefallnet amen to that. Bruce Lee could sell it. Looked great and movies. Against Joe Louis in an actual sparring match or fight is completely unrealistic. The legend is how well he could sell the abilities that he had and project to his audience.
@@elguerrerox3824 You have to understand that martial arts is also a business as is filmmaking. Joe Louis pretty clearly understood that it was in his best interest to say the things he did say about Bruce Lee and his capabilities. Not saying that Bruce Lee was not a very good martial artist. Just saying that realistically he would not have a chance in an actual fight or sparring match against Joe Luis. This is due to size, strength and for contact sparring in fighting experience. To further illustrate, do you really think that Bruce Lee would have prevailed in a Full contact fight in a ring with someone his own size who was a true champion experienced in full contact fighting ? For instance, Benny Urquidez. If you’re not familiar with him, look him up on RUclips and watch some of his full contact matches. He took on pretty much anybody that would fight him in his weight class internationally and won. Bruce Lee did no such thing and was not interested in this because he was an actor and movie star. While Mr. Urquidez
If you knew Bruce Lee's childhood history, you would know that he got in street fights. He got into acting because he loved being a showman. He was a true martial artist, not just an actor.
@@gqloc6768 stop making up crap, Joe did not put him on a pedestal. You can literally find video of Joe doubting Bruce as a fighter. Joe made comments about his thin neck and ability to take head shots.
@@claytonwright2416 Bruce did get in street fights as a kid with gang members and lost. This is why his dad put him in martial arts. Being in some street fights as a kid does not make somebody a fighter. He also beat another martial artist who was not a fighter and supposedly another dude on set who was also not a fighter. There is no fighting record of Bruce worth noting. He was a great martial artist, great screen character, and had an amazing work ethic but never proved he was a great fighter.
@@eliabhernandez5393 Las peleas callejeras se dan espontáneamente y en eso tiempos no habían cámaras en todas partes cómo hoy,pero hay muchos testigos de su peleas y de sus habilidades (reconocidos maestros de artes marciales entre ellos). Hay un vídeo de Bruce haciendo sparring en un torneo de karate. Sabes, una buena idea es que cuándo hables de algo, sepas de lo que hablas.
@@rami6261 lo hablo porque lo se de lo que te estoy ablando yo también te puedo desir que fui a la luna no ay registros de lo que disen solo sus paleros ablan maravillas nunca existió una pelea aunque sea gravada solo una de esparrin para que el se luciera porque no una formal en ves. De sparrin no que muy bueno e nada que como el caso de Beny urquides que el si fue peleador y demostrado fue campeón el caso de chuk Norris asta el caso de van dame pero este cuate nada fin de la discucion el ya no está aquí tu puedes pensar lo que gustes si para ti es lo máximo que bien para algunos solo un actor que sabía artes marciales pero no fue lo que pregonaba punto yo respetó tu puto de vista el mío es diferente y no por que no pensemos lo mismo según las acciones que persive cada individuo sobre este personage ya vamos a estar asiendo desmadres cada quien tiene su ideología de este tipo y muy respetable creo yo
@@TVsanti fact is in their era Bruce Leewould have lost against : Jon Bluming, Wim Ruska, Anton Geesink, Ivan Bogdan, Carley Gracie, Dominique Valera, Jan Plas, Fred Royers, Otti Roethoff, Ludwig Kotzebue, John Reeberg, Gilbert Gruss, Masutatsu Oyama, Mohammed Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, many other individuals and the Muay Thai champions, the Savate World champions, the Sambo world champions, the Vale Tudo world champions, all above Lewis and Lee in fighting in the ring or in the streets. And Jet Li in his era would have lost against : Ramon Dekkers, Rob Kaman, Andy Hug, Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts, Remy Bonjasky, Semmy Schilt, Badr Hari, Wim Ruska, Chris Dolman, David Douillet, Mirko CroCop, Fedor Emilianenko, Rickson Gracie, Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Dan Henderson, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Emanuel Pinda, Alain Le Hetet, Christophe Pinna, Hajime Kasumi, Glaube Feitosa, Francisco Filho, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr, roberto Duran, Riddick Bowe, Vladimir Klitschko, Vitaly Klitschko, Alexei ignashov and like many other legends.
@@TVsanti Strange Wim Ruska is remembered as the only Judoka Olympian winning two medals in the same event, Anton Geesink the first foreigner to neat the Japanese in Judo, Bluming is remebered in whole of the Kyokushin Karate world (millions of students), Rob Kaman has more than 5 million views in his highlight video, more views than most of Bruce Lee videos
@@TVsanti Carley Gracie with his family is the very reason you have MMA and UFC (Rorion Gracie), the most watched martial arts events in the world, where are the JKD championships or as high video views, nowhere. And some of the guy i named are more viewed nowadays than most of your Shaw Brothers video.
Bruce Lee helped Joe Lewis become a champion. Lewis took private lessons from Lee. If you don't believe me, hear it from Joe Lewis himself: ruclips.net/video/AXdG577px94/видео.html
@Jay Ryan What you are saying is that Joe Lewis is a liar. Why are you yelling at me? I am quite aware of the fact that Lewis was already a champion. Did you not even listen to what Joe Lewis said? He claims that Bruce Lee helped him become a BETTER fighter after he trained with him. Why don't actually LISTEN to what he says.
@@rdvandalos act is in their era Bruce Leewould have lost against : Jon Bluming, Wim Ruska, Anton Geesink, Ivan Bogdan, Carley Gracie, Dominique Valera, Jan Plas, Fred Royers, Otti Roethoff, Ludwig Kotzebue, John Reeberg, Gilbert Gruss, Masutatsu Oyama, Mohammed Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, many other individuals and the Muay Thai champions, the Savate World champions, the Sambo world champions, the Vale Tudo world champions, all above Lewis and Lee in fighting in the ring or in the streets. And Jet Li in his era would have lost against : Ramon Dekkers, Rob Kaman, Andy Hug, Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts, Remy Bonjasky, Semmy Schilt, Badr Hari, Wim Ruska, Chris Dolman, David Douillet, Mirko CroCop, Fedor Emilianenko, Rickson Gracie, Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Dan Henderson, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Emanuel Pinda, Alain Le Hetet, Christophe Pinna, Hajime Kasumi, Glaube Feitosa, Francisco Filho, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr, roberto Duran, Riddick Bowe, Vladimir Klitschko, Vitaly Klitschko, Alexei ignashov and like many other legends
@Jay Ryan Neither time. OK, obviously you need to watch the link or any other interview with Joe Lewis in which he says it HIMSELF. Joe Lewis was a "point fighting Karate" champion before he met Bruce Lee (which I was fully aware of for 30 years). Joe Lewis began to hate point fighting and train with Bruce Lee around the same time. He ADMITS in several interviews that Bruce mad him a BETTER fighter. He began to compete, and win championships, in "Full contact Kickboxing". AFTER he trained with Bruce Lee. I have some advice for you: 1. READ and WATCH for yourself before you look foolish (too late now). 2. Don't call someone a liar without knowing who they are, especially when you yourself does not possess the necessary information needed to support such a claim. 3. Try not to be such an arrogant moron, it won't get you far in life.
Sports is the key word here, real fights are a different world with no refferee -extra weight would slow you down,----although it was only a film with chuck norris who was about 40 pounds heavier {way of the dragon} you can see that lee was way faster and they really were going at it though not to damage each other, joe was way to slow for lee, great tourney fighter though!
@@jdt8983 Yeah its just a different game I am a competitive fighter with a winning record. Ive seen guys come in with kicks like Rogan get knocked out because they don't have any hands game or footwork. Fighting is more than hitting hard ironically Bruce Lee had a quote about this about boards not hitting back.
@@JesusChrist2000BC nice. I actually had someone offer to pay me to fight...I'm interested in doing that but I'm not really about it for a long term thing...did my street fights and sparring matches but I'm just interested in too many things to committ to that level of intensity on the regular...I admire warriors like you though. Very cool. Would love to learn more footwork and timing because like any intricate skill...the beauty is in the details. If you ever decide to youtube any footwork...I know there's info out there but I think you just broke down how important that is. Would enjoy learning from a video of yours. Thanks
LOL Lewis was an actuall world heavyweight kickboxing champion. Lee a show man and never completed. Never finished studying a single martial art. Bruce Lee was just an incredibly well marketed "marial arts film star". A "brand name". A man who managed to make his mark during a very racist time. ANd managed this based on his incredible charisma . The man has no credentials. Unlike Lewis. Lee was super marketable. Why millins today still blindly follow and worship the image that was "Brcue Lee". Had he also been a world champion in Martial arts, embarrassed every big name martial artist in a test of speed and power, beat them all in an "exhibition sparring" match...Norris, Lewis...etc. Had he actually been "untouchable"....THEN maybe... Should have compared Lee to Chan (Jackie). Both were MA action film stars. Both never competed. Difference? Chan has black blets in a few MA.
Sorry, but Bruce Lee's kick was much worse technically than that of Joe Lewis's. He put his body weight behind but did not turn his hip in. A lot of energy was dumped just for nothing. Bruce almost fell himself.
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For those who are not familiar with Joe Lewis ( not to be confused with Joe Louis, different champion):
He's widely considered as one of the greatest competitive full-contact kickboxing fighters of all time, he pioneered pretty much full-contact Karate & specially Kickboxing in the US.
Hell, the guy was the inspiration for Ken Masters from the Streetfighter videogames!
Bruce Lee started the unstoppable flame
Joe didn't have good kicks until he trained with Lee.
Bruce was faster than ever
Yes speed equals power ! My teacher was phoned by Bruce when he was in Hong Kong & he was going to come & see his style. Unfortunately he didn’t make it home from there. Greg Lee his god son claimed he was killed ! No way of proving that.
Faster than a bullet, he caught a bullet with his teeth.
Bruce do that one better than any one ...ues 4 inches of tree . Hit the right part of foot . Side kick . Lifts just a touch . Cant do it in my sixties .... kato longstreet. Marlow .. he was suppose get kung fu 32 dead 81 nov27 2021. Dreams die hard pigs live long.
Do you understand that each of these clips were taken from TV shows? My gosh I am so sick of fan boys mixing reality with movies
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Well said.
Los artistas marciales y luchadores de los 70 nos enseñaban un camino,no quiero decir que unos sean más,todos fueron magnificos,extraordinarios,todos ellos fueron un equipo de maestros,uno hacia de malo o de alumno,para que otro haga de bueno o de maestro,todos ellos nos influyeron positivamente,los artistas marciales y luchadores de los 70 estan casi extinguidos por el tiempo,espero que los nuevos encuentren la hermosa filosofía marcial
Speed is power, Bruce for the win!
He almost went through the glass doors!
The scene with Joe from The Fall Guy was a copy of Bruce's scene with James Franciscus from Longstreet. Longstreet predated The Fall Guy by about 10 years.
Bruce simply was...something truly special.
WAY...ahead of his time.
His blinding speed & technique created enormous kinetic energy that allowed him to hit like a heavy weight, even though he was so light in body weight.
Phenomenal man...greatly missed.
HOO-YAH & God Bless Master Bruce's soul.
Have you ever seen him in real fight ? " blinding speed & technique created enormous kinetic energy that allowed him to hit like a heavy weight, even though he was so light in body weight " . ALL IS ACTING NOTHING REAL . Bruce lee would die if he went in real MMA fight
@@Customer22374 Apparently, if you had ever had the chance to meet Master Bruce, you too would have been one of those who was absolutely STUNNED...by what he could do.
Spend time studying him and those who knew & interacted with him...you might find your opinion changing if you are honest with yourself and the factual evidence.
;)
@@Customer22374 Sorry bro i don't agree with you. May be he wasn't the best fighter but to label his hardwork and training as acting is not right...It would take years to even copy what Bruce did on screen...
@@Customer22374 is bruce alive today , so you have proof of what you say and claim ? i take it and guess that , if he had still lived today , he had developed his art and learned to be more effective , . but no one can no for sure how he had stand up to other fighters of today since he is dead , but you talking aboute him as you seen him these days fighting others .
@@Customer22374 A few years since i would have agreed with you, i figured Bruce Lee was just an actor who was quite good at martial arts but after researching he was apparently incredibly legit, though he didn't fight professionally as a sport, he regularly sparred with the best and was considered untouchable, a great martial artist by all accounts.
Joe was bigger, but Bruce was way more fluid and explosive.
Joe was also a proven fighter...Bruce not so much.
Joe gave a lot of credit to Bruce as his martial arts Mentor and they were good friends I just wish that Joe had been in Way of the Dragon or Enter the Dragon.
There were a lot of martials artists who were bigger than Bruce Lee. But none were better!
@@ericvanjames8395 in movies.
@@ericvanjames8395 Bruce Lee was an actor. From his young childhood he was an actor. His father was a famous Chinese Opera singer-actor.
Joe Lewis, Jim Kelly and Chuck Norris were full contact professional fighters. Trying to break into the action movie business. Bruce met them all when he was co-starring in The Green Hornet in 1967. (Get it?)
Bruce Lee's first (and only) real fight was November 1964 against Northern Longfist and Xingyiquan teacher Wong Jack-Man. Yes I know all 7 versions of the story.
I also know that after the fight Bruce Lee tossed most of his Wing Chun out the window, bashed Southern Kung Fu as ineffective...
And started working out with Tae Kwan Do kicking master Jhoon Rhee, learned some Northern Praying Mantis, got obsessive with his cardio & conditioning, started training with full contact Karate champions;
and put together a fighting philosophy that looks made to cope with Northern Longfist and Xingyiquan.
I think we know who was doing most of the teaching when Bruce the childhood actor who learned Sil Lum Tao and half of Chum Kiu forms of the punching only Wing Chun system before coming to the US... met up with the seriously trained full contact fighters.
Joe highly respected Bruce Lee and learned ALOT from him.
And wasn't afraid to admit that he learned a lot. Joe should have been a bigger star.
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and joe also understood what won't work and said so to bruce.
joe may not be a big movie star but sure was the first kickboxer. one is a martial artist while the other a fighter. two different people who contribute to the martial arts.
@@CBHDK59 Benny Urquidez had a bigger impact on kickboxing than Joe Lewis.
@@Katzenhase Love Benny but Joe was the founder of American kickboxing.
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Joe was very smart to add this to his repertoire as well as probably suggesting it be in the script! A great fighter due to skill and intellect.
it is some inept caricature, what was it supposed to be? Bruce was just amazing
Very interesting to see these 2 acting reels of essentially the same scene. No knock against Joe...but Bruce just naturally has so much more intensity and charisma...his version is just sooo much more dramatic! You can see why he became a movie star, because anytime he showed up onscreen, he just stole the entire spotlight.
Joe was a movie star as well and one of his films is a classic to this day; of course lee went on to be the man from japan---er well hongkong!!!
Exactly my point. Bruce had so much charisma, fanboys turn a blind eye to lack of evidence as far as real fights are concerned.
@@stevo62ful
Once again, Mr. Ferry...just because Bruce didn't perform for you, doesn't mean he wasn't what he actually was/is.
A very lethal man who trained for real world combat.
Perhaps he might have lost in a ring...with rules, etc., but in the real world...he would have been lethal, if he fully unleashed himself.
Again...do the proper, lengthy, research and I'm sure you will actually begin to appreciate what Bruce brought to the table.
Even Joe Lewis recognized this.
Especially after their final clash that ended their time training together...which is why Lewis said that he knew how hard Bruce could hit.
Disrespecting such a great man as Bruce, after his death, is a sissy move.
However, believe whatever you want.
@@BrotherPatriot I'm not disrespecting Bruce, I'm keeping an open mind due to lack of evidence and not buying into the fanboy mentality of believing what I want to be true. All this "Do the research" talk from you fanboys, yet I am still waiting for a verifiable real fight opponent. The only disrespect is by fanboys toward Bruce's peers, mainly Chuck Norris, because they won't admit to losing to Bruce even though there is no evidence of them fighting. Dress it up anyway you want, but I have copied and pasted many times, Joe saying Bruce was not a fighter.
@@stevo62ful
...again, feel free to think what you want.
God Bless
Sensacional.
Joe wanted to be the white Bruce Lee back in the day... Even in Force Five Joe was very Bruce Lee-ish
I don't understand why they always have to put one martial artist against the other one because of their art, I studied tae Quan do at an early age and we always respected each other for the art, it's the people who don't understand it that talks the most, if they study up on it they will have a better understanding of what it's about.
@@elpato402 my bad, I mean to say "Kwon" it was a miss spell because of spell check
@@lldavidbanks8701 Ah yes the dreaded auto correct ,very annoying . I’ve been caught out many times.
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well , you se , what others have not seen with their own eyes is not real and was not real , it did not happen , even though people who saw bruce in person at place when he did his thing that stil live today are telling us of today how good he was and what he did and could do back then , doesnt matter , they just have made up their mind aboute it , it just cant be , didnt happen .
I think it's human nature to compare people to one another I think we tend to get carried away with it.i spoke to Joe over the phone in 1991,the guy was a joy to talk to,super articulate.interestly,we didn't mention Bruce not once,guess I was too excited talking to a living legend.R.I.P to Bruce& Joe.
Why put this up Bruce vs Joe they were friends
Friends but they all tested each other!!!
Trained with Taky Kimura,. He had one of these air Shields. If you notice the shield Joe Lewis is using is in the air shield. This used to be one of Bruce's favorite tricks to pull on people, it's physics, as you kick the air shield it compresses then acts like a spring and shoot you back along with Bruce's sidekick. Not really a fair comparison with Joe Lewis's shield. 🙏🙏🙏🐲
Ha ha! Mr. Lee kicks up too. Higher contact... more leverage to topple a rigid target.
Бой Брюс Ли и Джо Льюис происходил за закрытой дверью. Этот бой остался тайной. Джо Льюис отказался играть в фильме ,, Путь дракона,,. Его роль сыграл Чак норис. Огромная потеря для фанатов Брюс Ли и Джо Льюис. Их бой на экране стал бы шедевром боевого кино.
Bruce lee fue maestro de joe lewis, lewis imito la ecena que hizo bruce lee.
Are we just going to ignore how stunningly gorgeous Heather Thomas was/ is? Mamamia! Mmmmm 😂🤪
one was the actor, the other was the real deal .....
both were actor's
@@jamaali2358 , and both were the real deal
At Lewis and Bruce time the real deal were : Jon Bluming, Wim Ruska, Anton Geesink, Chris Dolman, Ivan Bogdan, Carley Gracie, Dominique Valera, Jan Plas, Fred Royers, Otti Roethoff, Ludwig Kotzebue, John Reeberg, Gilbert Gruss, Masutatsu Oyama, Rob Kaman, Ramon Dekkers, Mohammed Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, many other individuals and the Muay Thai champions, the Savate World champions, the Sambo world champions, the Vale Tudo world champions, all above Lewis and Lee in fighting in the ring or in the streets.
Loved seeing Longstreet.
Thought a great deal of both of them.
Joe was a top shelf human being.
The parallel side thrust kick is unblockable and unstoppable, the only successful way to counter being hurt by it is to side step our of the direct line or leap backwards very quickly. It is surprising that MMA fighters haven't caught on to this devastating kick
Doesn't work very well in actual fighting. Now some do use it and do very well with it, one of classmates is an example, but it takes years and years of serious practice to get and it's still a limited options/situations.
Because you absolutely can not do what Lee does on film. You can't be 2 large steps outside of Long range... and run into a trained fighter as they stand there.
And were you hitting a person who's in a turned fighting guard?
(If you can even hit them because side kick is the slowest kick besides a spinning back thrust.)
You can't use a side kick's best target in MMA: the knee. The other main target is the ribs. You're not getting them either.
Then there's high risk very low chance side kick to the jaw. Because unlike a roundhouse, crescent, whip, spinning heel, moon, and star kicks... you don't have the temple, back the head or cheek. You need to come under the jaw or right into the chin.
Side kick is a follow up kick in a combo where you know how to open a person's ribcage. Roundhouse left kick to head into a roundhouse right kick to head with immediate right straight to the head where you slide your back leg, left leg, in closer as your opponents guard up from all the headhunting you just did... So he doesn't see the quick right knee chamber that's going to your left side... If his left arm is out great grab it as you best him the ribs with the side kick.
Idk. Kinda a pain. But if it connects you're cracking a rib.
What also works but isn't that powerful is flick a rough kick at their head, but your knee never drops. When your foot comes back you send it right out into those open ribs. But I do different. I have it go into a hook/whip kick into the jaw or across the face.
I just don't like the kick. You really have to be in medium to close range to use it and I rather be doing something else in those ranges.
And it's easy to slip/dodge or side step and grab. Person is leaning more with side so easy to take them down. Or a number of other options. If you don't avoid it it's easy to block. Just have to watch it from sliding under your lead arm.
So in my opinion that's why it's rarely seen. You probably see it more than you think too. It's just not remembered because it doesn't pay off.
@@Chronicskillness If you can adapt to the situation, it can work. Just like how the 4 inch punch can be used to force an opponent off balance if used correctly, the same thing can be said about the side kick " If used correctly!"
Bruce Lee was the fastest man on the whole planet. Bruce Lee was the best fighter ever in the history of fighters in the universe. Bruce Lee could walk on water. Bruce Lee taught Leo Sayer how to grow hair. Bruce Lee invented wheelbarrows . Bruce Lees' real name was Luce Bree. Bruce Lee grew steel pubes. Bruce Lee ate bricks for breakfast and horses for lunch. Bruce Lee caused Terry Nutkins fingers to fall off by blowing on them. Bruce Lee put the sticky stuff on envelopes using ninja telepathy. Bruce Lee was part man part gerbil. I met Bruce Lee once and my liver imploded. I also suffer from mythomania.
"Mythomania" I have never heard that before. I must remember this new word.
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Just like the world.will never see another Maradona , we will.never see another Bruce lee, not in 500 yrs
They show joe lewis...he got that from bruce....but it's all good
Esa yop Chagui de Bruce Lee era contundente!
Both great MA's, and both had quite a bit of natural ability as well. Joe became a Black Belt in about a year while serving in the Military.
You can't earn a black belt in a year's time even if it's that Tae Kwon do stuff.
Bruce Lee dijo que Joe Lewis su alumno era el mejor peleador del planeta, pero Bruce Lee no era de este planeta
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Joe Lewis acted that part out because "U know " actor couldn't really get hurt. He'll miss takes because of injuries. Bruce & James Francisco however their was No contractual agreement if U get
Hurt That's Show Business
Amém.
Bruce Lee ya fue, lo que todos quieren ser en artes marciales.
Hmmm, Joes recipient is 90% acting/cooperaring. As well he should obviously, cuz its a film. But Bruce's recipient is 10% acting/cooperating. His shuffleing of his feet is not one of locomotion but one of desperately trying to keep it under his center of gravity (his hip).
It ain't no bruce vs. Joe...its no contest
What did Joe Lewis, Mike Stone, Bruce Jenner, Quincy Jones and James Caan have in common?
Ken Master
Why is Mrs Brady at another man's house?
Jesus...really? Joe turned Bruce down for Way of the Dragon because he didn't want to lose onscreen, then attempted to start his own action career with cringe-classics like Force Five and Jaguar Lives. Here, he or the screenwriter or both lift a scene verbatim from Longstreet and the results ain't much better. As for Bruce and Joe in real life, Lee historian John Little recently talked about an incident witnessed by Ted Wong, where Joe was sparring with student Herb Jackson and almost busted the man's eardrum with a deliberate open-hand slap. Bruce then asked for Herb's gloves and, in Little's words, showed Joe he didn't have all the answers-which, by the way, contradicts his lifelong assertion that Bruce never sparred with him.
Depends who you believe, Joe or a guy who told another guy. I don't know which is true. I only believe what I can see, and I've never seen Bruce in a real fight.
seems like it's not just how hard you kick but where you kick relative to the holder. Howie kicked Joe too low (ie his kicking leg wasn't parallel to floor) and bad form with his kicking leg's knee pointing down. Joe kicked Howie with his kicking leg parallel, which gives good power. Bruce in this scene kicked with his leg that rose upwards which hits the holder target more at chest area making it easier to knock holder backward backwards. IMHO Joe's kick would have hurt more, even though it locked like the knock down was acted out.
hes just lucky captain sheridan didnt unleash the volon inside him lol
Pound for pound Bruce done it better.
Bruce lee original
Both of them would not have lost a full 2 rounds against the best muay Thai fighters of the time !!
Lewis would have done fine.. Just like Manson Gibson ko'd Changpuk.
Lewis might have, not Bruce though
最強の蹴り。低い。ヒント「足の向き」。 Go for it.
Heeeeah 🦵💥🥜🌭😫😲😫
look you can see the dirence in joe the kicked man was faking his drop.But the second not.And it wasnt with full force from Bruce
Come on people get real. Joe Lewis would have beaten the crap out of Bruce Lee.
The six million dollar man would of kicked much harder than Joe and Bruce put together.
Who gives a crap about Joe or BL when prime Heather Thomas was on screen?
Bruce tenia mas potencia
A movie is not the reality.
Joe lewis compitió con otros artistas marciales en torneos, bruce lee no compitió en torneos, solamente exhibiones.
لانه مات صغيرا عمره 32 سنه وكيف له وقت كي ينافس الجميع ملاكمين
De hecho paso, Joe Lewis fue destruido por Bruce Lee en una pelea. Fue Bruce Lee quien le enseñó a Lewis la diferencia de un combate de contacto de uno de Punto, Lewis afirmó en entrevista que jamás pudo ganarle a Bruce Lee y que cuando entrenaban Bruce Lee era amable con él (Osea que Bruce Lee era amable con Joe Lewis).
Tanta fantasia, no duraba 1 round con urquidez, los expertos determinaron esto hace años y cualquier maestro marcial real como yo, por ejemplo lo sabe. No hay que creerse las leyendas completas, solo son lo que son leyendas
@@demonofthefallnet??????
De quién hablas?. Lo de que Bruce Lee derrotó a Joe Lewis es verdad, incluso hay un video donde Bruce Lee a pura patada sin puños lo venció como si nada. Por otro lado Joe Lewis afirmó que no podía vencerlo en entrevistas, incluso lo dijo muchos años después de participar y promover EL Full contac.
Ten presente que Joe fue alumno de Bruce Lee y según afirmó Joe, fue Bruce Lee quien lo inspiró a meterse de lleno a las peleas de contacto. Tanto así que después se metió a Full contac.
@@demonofthefallnet jajajajajajaj se nota la ignorancia ... cuantas veces Lewis conto que Bruce era la única persona que le daba miedo y por eso jamás lo reto a un duelo real. Benny Urquidez durante el rodaje de la película "Kuai can che" le conto a los otros integrantes de la película (Jackie Chang, Yuen Biao y Keith Vitali) que vio una lucha real de Bruce en Seatle en 1969 donde un maestro de taekwondo lo reto a un combate sin reglas y bruce lo venció en menos de 1 minuto. Benny tenia 18 años. Jackie a contado varios retos que tuvo Bruce, también Ed Parker y sobre todo Dan Inosanto. Este ultimo en una entrevista para BBC a fines de los 80 menciono que por lo menos vio unas 10 veces peleas reales de bruce y en la mayoría los que lo retaban eran maestros, estudiantes, dobles de acción o simples aprendices. Los otros que han comentado peleas reales fueron los denominados "7 pequeñas fortunas" que eran un grupo de artistas marciales, maestros y coreógrafos tales como el mismo Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao, Corey Yuen o Yuen Wa. Por algo Dan Inosanto después de ver la entrevista a Chuck Norris donde este ultimo decía que Bruce jamás participo de un torneo y que solo era un actor de películas, Inosanto le recordó que Bruce había barrido el piso con el en Roma. Y Chuck no le respondió porque sabia que Dan tenia razón y fue testigo de eso. Norris quedo como mentiroso.
Bolo Young también comento una de las tantas peleas reales que Bruce tuvo ruclips.net/video/io07tWifMfQ/видео.html
@@demonofthefallnet amen to that. Bruce Lee could sell it. Looked great and movies. Against Joe Louis in an actual sparring match or fight is completely unrealistic. The legend is how well he could sell the abilities that he had and project to his audience.
@@elguerrerox3824 You have to understand that martial arts is also a business as is filmmaking. Joe Louis pretty clearly understood that it was in his best interest to say the things he did say about Bruce Lee and his capabilities. Not saying that Bruce Lee was not a very good martial artist. Just saying that realistically he would not have a chance in an actual fight or sparring match against Joe Luis. This is due to size, strength and for contact sparring in fighting experience.
To further illustrate, do you really think that Bruce Lee would have prevailed in a Full contact fight in a ring with someone his own size who was a true champion experienced in full contact fighting ? For instance, Benny Urquidez. If you’re not familiar with him, look him up on RUclips and watch some of his full contact matches. He took on pretty much anybody that would fight him in his weight class internationally and won. Bruce Lee did no such thing and was not interested in this because he was an actor and movie star. While Mr. Urquidez
is not the same kick
shit getting old.
Bruce lee would die if he went in real MMA fight
Yes die laughing!!!!
Joe was the real fighter. Bruce was a great martial arts actor.
That's why Joe went to Lee for training and put Lee above him. Okay Gen Z'er!
If you knew Bruce Lee's childhood history, you would know that he got in street fights. He got into acting because he loved being a showman. He was a true martial artist, not just an actor.
@@gqloc6768 stop making up crap, Joe did not put him on a pedestal. You can literally find video of Joe doubting Bruce as a fighter. Joe made comments about his thin neck and ability to take head shots.
@@claytonwright2416 Bruce did get in street fights as a kid with gang members and lost. This is why his dad put him in martial arts. Being in some street fights as a kid does not make somebody a fighter. He also beat another martial artist who was not a fighter and supposedly another dude on set who was also not a fighter. There is no fighting record of Bruce worth noting. He was a great martial artist, great screen character, and had an amazing work ethic but never proved he was a great fighter.
@@jasonz1771 - Stop pretending that thumbnail is you! 😂
Congratulations on being a funny 🤡! 🎉🎊👏🥳
Alguna pelea real registrada🤔nunca así k solo fue un actor punto
Fue actor, filósofo, artista marcial, escritor, director, guionista, coreografo y peleador.
@@rami6261 Alguna pelea registrada nunca punto
@@eliabhernandez5393 Las peleas callejeras se dan espontáneamente y en eso tiempos no habían cámaras en todas partes cómo hoy,pero hay muchos testigos de su peleas y de sus habilidades (reconocidos maestros de artes marciales entre ellos). Hay un vídeo de Bruce haciendo sparring en un torneo de karate.
Sabes, una buena idea es que cuándo hables de algo, sepas de lo que hablas.
@@rami6261 lo hablo porque lo se de lo que te estoy ablando yo también te puedo desir que fui a la luna no ay registros de lo que disen solo sus paleros ablan maravillas nunca existió una pelea aunque sea gravada solo una de esparrin para que el se luciera porque no una formal en ves. De sparrin no que muy bueno e nada que como el caso de Beny urquides que el si fue peleador y demostrado fue campeón el caso de chuk Norris asta el caso de van dame pero este cuate nada fin de la discucion el ya no está aquí tu puedes pensar lo que gustes si para ti es lo máximo que bien para algunos solo un actor que sabía artes marciales pero no fue lo que pregonaba punto yo respetó tu puto de vista el mío es diferente y no por que no pensemos lo mismo según las acciones que persive cada individuo sobre este personage ya vamos a estar asiendo desmadres cada quien tiene su ideología de este tipo y muy respetable creo yo
@@eliabhernandez5393 Infórmate, ya qué no lo pareces sobre el tema.
Jet Li is faster than Bruce Lee. They’re both actors not fighters.
spoken like a true keyboard warrior expert
@@TVsanti fact is in their era Bruce Leewould have lost against : Jon Bluming, Wim Ruska, Anton Geesink, Ivan Bogdan, Carley Gracie, Dominique Valera, Jan Plas, Fred Royers, Otti Roethoff, Ludwig Kotzebue, John Reeberg, Gilbert Gruss, Masutatsu Oyama, Mohammed Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, many other individuals and the Muay Thai champions, the Savate World champions, the Sambo world champions, the Vale Tudo world champions, all above Lewis and Lee in fighting in the ring or in the streets.
And Jet Li in his era would have lost against : Ramon Dekkers, Rob Kaman, Andy Hug, Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts, Remy Bonjasky, Semmy Schilt, Badr Hari, Wim Ruska, Chris Dolman, David Douillet, Mirko CroCop, Fedor Emilianenko, Rickson Gracie, Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Dan Henderson, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Emanuel Pinda, Alain Le Hetet, Christophe Pinna, Hajime Kasumi, Glaube Feitosa, Francisco Filho, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr, roberto Duran, Riddick Bowe, Vladimir Klitschko, Vitaly Klitschko, Alexei ignashov and like many other legends.
@@THEREALZENFORCE in 50 years nobody will remember none of them
@@TVsanti Strange Wim Ruska is remembered as the only Judoka Olympian winning two medals in the same event, Anton Geesink the first foreigner to neat the Japanese in Judo, Bluming is remebered in whole of the Kyokushin Karate world (millions of students), Rob Kaman has more than 5 million views in his highlight video, more views than most of Bruce Lee videos
@@TVsanti Carley Gracie with his family is the very reason you have MMA and UFC (Rorion Gracie), the most watched martial arts events in the world, where are the JKD championships or as high video views, nowhere. And some of the guy i named are more viewed nowadays than most of your Shaw Brothers video.
Joe Lewis was a real champion. Bruce Lee wasn't.
A champion in a combat sport with a lor of rules, not in real fights bro, two different things, not saying that Bruce was better just lets be clear.
Bruce Lee helped Joe Lewis become a champion. Lewis took private lessons from Lee. If you don't believe me, hear it from Joe Lewis himself:
ruclips.net/video/AXdG577px94/видео.html
@Jay Ryan What you are saying is that Joe Lewis is a liar. Why are you yelling at me? I am quite aware of the fact that Lewis was already a champion. Did you not even listen to what Joe Lewis said? He claims that Bruce Lee helped him become a BETTER fighter after he trained with him. Why don't actually LISTEN to what he says.
@@rdvandalos act is in their era Bruce Leewould have lost against : Jon Bluming, Wim Ruska, Anton Geesink, Ivan Bogdan, Carley Gracie, Dominique Valera, Jan Plas, Fred Royers, Otti Roethoff, Ludwig Kotzebue, John Reeberg, Gilbert Gruss, Masutatsu Oyama, Mohammed Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, many other individuals and the Muay Thai champions, the Savate World champions, the Sambo world champions, the Vale Tudo world champions, all above Lewis and Lee in fighting in the ring or in the streets.
And Jet Li in his era would have lost against : Ramon Dekkers, Rob Kaman, Andy Hug, Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts, Remy Bonjasky, Semmy Schilt, Badr Hari, Wim Ruska, Chris Dolman, David Douillet, Mirko CroCop, Fedor Emilianenko, Rickson Gracie, Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Dan Henderson, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Emanuel Pinda, Alain Le Hetet, Christophe Pinna, Hajime Kasumi, Glaube Feitosa, Francisco Filho, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr, roberto Duran, Riddick Bowe, Vladimir Klitschko, Vitaly Klitschko, Alexei ignashov and like many other legends
@Jay Ryan Neither time. OK, obviously you need to watch the link or any other interview with Joe Lewis in which he says it HIMSELF. Joe Lewis was a "point fighting Karate" champion before he met Bruce Lee (which I was fully aware of for 30 years). Joe Lewis began to hate point fighting and train with Bruce Lee around the same time. He ADMITS in several interviews that Bruce mad him a BETTER fighter. He began to compete, and win championships, in "Full contact Kickboxing". AFTER he trained with Bruce Lee. I have some advice for you:
1. READ and WATCH for yourself before you look foolish (too late now).
2. Don't call someone a liar without knowing who they are, especially when you yourself does not possess the necessary information needed to support such a claim.
3. Try not to be such an arrogant moron, it won't get you far in life.
Well , Joe Lewis would have beaten Bruce Lee in a full fight. He outweighed him 50-60 pounds. Weight classes exist in all combat sports for a reason
Speed and executions of techniques overcomes strenght.
The less rules imposed then the less weight class matters. Look at muay fighters fighting people twice their weight
@@slick2.0_yeah I guess that’s why Floyd Mayweather was the heavy weight champion of the world.
Sports is the key word here, real fights are a different world with no refferee -extra weight would slow you down,----although it was only a film with chuck norris who was about 40 pounds heavier {way of the dragon} you can see that lee was way faster and they really were going at it though not to damage each other, joe was way to slow for lee, great tourney fighter though!
That's when Joe Rogan steps in to beat both of them at the kicking game. That's right. I said it
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Joe has legit kicks but hed get pieced up by Lewis or Lee. He doesnt have the footwork or hands to make his kicks mean anything.
@@JesusChrist2000BC his kicks have been used in tournaments but you have a point because he never fought anyone of that caliber
@@jdt8983 Yeah its just a different game I am a competitive fighter with a winning record. Ive seen guys come in with kicks like Rogan get knocked out because they don't have any hands game or footwork. Fighting is more than hitting hard ironically Bruce Lee had a quote about this about boards not hitting back.
@@JesusChrist2000BC nice. I actually had someone offer to pay me to fight...I'm interested in doing that but I'm not really about it for a long term thing...did my street fights and sparring matches but I'm just interested in too many things to committ to that level of intensity on the regular...I admire warriors like you though. Very cool. Would love to learn more footwork and timing because like any intricate skill...the beauty is in the details. If you ever decide to youtube any footwork...I know there's info out there but I think you just broke down how important that is. Would enjoy learning from a video of yours. Thanks
LOL Lewis was an actuall world heavyweight kickboxing champion. Lee a show man and never completed. Never finished studying a single martial art. Bruce Lee was just an incredibly well marketed "marial arts film star". A "brand name". A man who managed to make his mark during a very racist time. ANd managed this based on his incredible charisma . The man has no credentials. Unlike Lewis. Lee was super marketable. Why millins today still blindly follow and worship the image that was "Brcue Lee". Had he also been a world champion in Martial arts, embarrassed every big name martial artist in a test of speed and power, beat them all in an "exhibition sparring" match...Norris, Lewis...etc. Had he actually been "untouchable"....THEN maybe...
Should have compared Lee to Chan (Jackie). Both were MA action film stars. Both never competed. Difference? Chan has black blets in a few MA.
Sorry, but Bruce Lee's kick was much worse technically than that of Joe Lewis's. He put his body weight behind but did not turn his hip in. A lot of energy was dumped just for nothing. Bruce almost fell himself.