Noam Chomsky: Language, Cognition, and Deep Learning | Lex Fridman Podcast #53

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  4 года назад +525

    I really enjoyed this conversation with Noam. Here's the outline:
    0:00 - Introduction
    3:59 - Common language with an alien species
    5:46 - Structure of language
    7:18 - Roots of language in our brain
    8:51 - Language and thought
    9:44 - The limit of human cognition
    16:48 - Neuralink
    19:32 - Deepest property of language
    22:13 - Limits of deep learning
    28:01 - Good and evil
    29:52 - Memorable experiences
    33:29 - Mortality
    34:23 - Meaning of life

    • @harshitjoshi571
      @harshitjoshi571 4 года назад +12

      Thanks a lot Mr. Fridman for the Thanksgiving gift \m/

    • @akashmodhwadia2442
      @akashmodhwadia2442 4 года назад +2

      Sir, Can you write a book on your own journey through AI and how should a student approach to this changing world ??

    • @phillipsjesserobert
      @phillipsjesserobert 4 года назад +1

      We create the world with language.

    • @isaachagoel7344
      @isaachagoel7344 4 года назад +12

      The honesty in the intro was genuinely touching. Keep up the good work Lex!

    • @PhilosopherRex
      @PhilosopherRex 4 года назад +5

      Another great interview Lex - Joe Rogan has nothing on you! ;-) Keep doing this awesome work please.

  • @lazypunk794
    @lazypunk794 4 года назад +1260

    Lex has the best podcast guests hands down.

    • @BoRisMc
      @BoRisMc 4 года назад +5

      Goutham yup

    • @cristianorentroia6607
      @cristianorentroia6607 4 года назад +13

      Check out Sean Carroll's Mindscape podcast!

    • @southpaws6814
      @southpaws6814 4 года назад +4

      Keep it up Lex!

    • @garn5341
      @garn5341 4 года назад +7

      On that note... Lex, I have always wondered how you get your guests? Do some of them come to you or do you ask all of them? (Seems like maybe Elon came knocking for the last interview. ;) And are you now known, as you should be, to be someone higher up in these kind of conversations? No matter, you do have some of the best guests and well thought out questions.

    • @southpaws6814
      @southpaws6814 4 года назад +1

      @@garn5341 excuse me gentlemen,that was an insiping podcast ... I hope to be part of more ...:-)

  • @augustoparaiso7349
    @augustoparaiso7349 11 месяцев назад +12

    When it's all said and done, interviewing Noam will be one of the achievements you're most proud of.

  • @Fondofmelobster
    @Fondofmelobster 4 года назад +640

    It’s poetic, like Lex Fridman said, that the podcast with one of the most influential people in language has only audio, no video

    • @Bisquick
      @Bisquick 4 года назад +14

      I don't know, I heard a single image can be exchanged for 1000 words, so that's at least like...1000 more words we're missing out on.

    • @helpmeinburning
      @helpmeinburning 4 года назад +11

      both of you suck

    • @otherism
      @otherism 4 года назад

      It sounds like a great compilation...not

    • @patrinos655
      @patrinos655 4 года назад

      @@Bisquick there's an image of them right above these comments. I think the audio is excellent.
      meanwhile, Lex sounds like the voice in Pursuit of Wonder videos, is that right? does anyone know?

    • @theknowone9846
      @theknowone9846 4 года назад +1

      god pursuit of wonder is a bit higher pitched

  • @SR-lh4rm
    @SR-lh4rm 4 года назад +282

    Chomsky's differentiation (before and after 23:07) between real science and observing patterns in large data sets is the most interesting part of this discussion. His approach to scientific inquiry emphasizes a much wider gamut of human intellect, as evidenced by his remarks on structure dependence in language, a very subtle, deceptively simple observation, with wide reaching consequences as he says.

    • @michelepacheco3635
      @michelepacheco3635 4 года назад +8

      This is the foundation of everything

    • @DragonofStorm
      @DragonofStorm 4 года назад +6

      Can you please explain more detailed what you mean?

    • @dujondunn2306
      @dujondunn2306 4 года назад +12

      It's really the difference between fundamental science and engineering. Prediction vs understanding.

    • @SR-lh4rm
      @SR-lh4rm 4 года назад +67

      @@DragonofStorm If, for example, we ask whether collecting evidence from extremely large sets of randomized data has any hope of teaching us something scientifically meaningful, Chomsky seems to think the answer is no. He gives the example of a chemist mixing a bunch of chemicals together. Real science happens when the experiment is constructed in some critical way. It doesn't collect random data, it collects data that arise out of a set of constraints, and then interprets that data. Human ingenuity and creativity enter into the picture when it comes to constructing the experiment, the set of constraints. This requires being curious and puzzled about some problem that you observe in the world. For example, Chomsky's observation that in everyday sentences, human beings seem to be picking out the more linearly remote thing, therefore carrying out the more computationally complex procedure (in our minds when we "compute" and interpret the sentence's meaning), while ignoring everything that we hear. This happens in all human languages, as he says. A true scientific discovery like that doesn't require huge data sets, just the willingness to be puzzled about some aspect of the world that everyone else sees as obvious. Hope I didn't mangle Chomsky's ideas there.
      If you are new to Chomsky, I truly envy you. He is a fascinating thinker who is widely credited with revolutionizing the field of linguistics. There are a lot of great RUclips videos where he discusses his ideas in greater detail.

    • @aidansharples7751
      @aidansharples7751 4 года назад +2

      S R . Are you familiar with Karen Jones' work on trust? if not I think you would enjoy it. In some of her later work she expands on the Chomsky esque view of 'individual brilliance and actual work' and shows that it is "trust" in the innate creativity of an individual which allows for this 'actual work' to be done.

  • @robertpirsig5011
    @robertpirsig5011 3 года назад +232

    Lex you asked chomsky some very interesting questions. You got more out of him in 30 mins than most of his other interviews. Please please, do a chomsky 2. It was a really great interview.

    • @genevievexx
      @genevievexx 2 года назад +8

      Came back to say this. We need another interview with Chomsky!!!!

    • @onatozdemir
      @onatozdemir 2 года назад +7

      Just replying to make it visible. We need Chomsky 2

    • @imme8471
      @imme8471 2 года назад +2

      Chomsky 2, wahoo

    • @felixnewman2473
      @felixnewman2473 2 года назад +1

      Great man, but he put he's support behind Biden and deep state - so I will never forgive him for that!

    • @daniel-kr3xh
      @daniel-kr3xh Год назад +1

      ​@@genevievexx guess what bud

  • @highfrequencymonkeyman
    @highfrequencymonkeyman 4 года назад +485

    When Chomsky calls your question interesting 🥰

    • @jessew7565
      @jessew7565 4 года назад +38

      @Alex H this is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read, ever

    • @emmanueloluga9770
      @emmanueloluga9770 4 года назад +7

      @@jessew7565 don't feed the troll lol

    • @sortof3337
      @sortof3337 4 года назад +4

      @@emmanueloluga9770 Yes I agree. This community shouldn't feed the trolls.

    • @EMPATICO4
      @EMPATICO4 4 года назад

      Chomsky klo wn oh!. Cualquier cosa que le preguntes sabe. Al tanto del estado del arte de todo. Y uno con suerte aquí traduciendo.

    • @kurtglathar5162
      @kurtglathar5162 3 года назад

      @Alex H Chomsky eats Trolls like you for breakfast

  • @KaninTuzi
    @KaninTuzi 4 года назад +371

    I mean, a still image of Chomsky is not very different from a live video of Chomsky.

    • @cdavid469
      @cdavid469 4 года назад +27

      The picture moves more

    • @johnnychico7052
      @johnnychico7052 4 года назад +2

      Hahahahaha

    • @alekrunko
      @alekrunko 3 года назад +3

      Bahahahaha

    • @kidohchi
      @kidohchi 3 года назад +2

      I looove Nome.Chomp.., HaHaHa ~ so Right-on

    • @kidohchi
      @kidohchi 3 года назад +3

      Noam..

  • @musclecard54
    @musclecard54 4 года назад +22

    Lex we feel the heart, soul, and pure effort you put in. This podcast is legendary

  • @evabcasali
    @evabcasali 2 года назад +4

    Im completely astonished of how fast Chomsky answer the questions without ever take a nano second to think. At his age. He is truly amazing.

  • @AS-iu3pl
    @AS-iu3pl 4 года назад +92

    Hi Lex. You've managed to capture refreshing new perspectives from Noam Chomsky on topics I'd never seen him cover. Great public service.

    • @spceboi
      @spceboi 3 года назад

      Well said ✨ very impressed bt lex’s questions and i got the sense the Chomsky was too.. Really hope we get lucky and they decide to do a round 2

    • @BradSamuelsPro
      @BradSamuelsPro 3 года назад +1

      Lex talks to him about his actual expertise, linguistics

  • @xj3130
    @xj3130 4 года назад +5

    It’s been a while to have such good sound quality with a Chomsky interview. I’m almost in tears.

    • @ZedNebuloid
      @ZedNebuloid 5 месяцев назад

      It's almost criminal that he hasn't been on Rogan's podcast while he is still on earth.

  • @menatoorus5696
    @menatoorus5696 4 года назад +75

    Brilliant interviewer, and super guests. Man, you have it all in one basket. Thank you.

  • @sonekulla
    @sonekulla 4 года назад +7

    Lex, for a guy who could easily get by better than most of us on his smarts alone, your depth of humble sincerity is movingly charming. Your embarrassed disclosure about the missing video track in the context of Chomsky's personal significance to you made my eyes water -- which, in turn, only increased my respect for your 'humanity forward' transparent style. Bravo.

  • @armijinyawa
    @armijinyawa 4 года назад +5

    "That's something we answer by our own activities"... the significance of our existence that is. Deep. Great listen 👌👌

  • @stephencarrasquillo3964
    @stephencarrasquillo3964 4 года назад +60

    Don't beat yourself up , Lex. I enjoy your program for the thought provoking conversation and appreciate the amount of effort to provide video along with it.

  • @deifor
    @deifor Год назад +8

    Studied from his linguistic books and interpreted for him like 20 years ago in Cuba. One of my professional life's highlights.

    • @quasa0
      @quasa0 Год назад

      Hey! What kind of things did you learn from the books? Never heard of them

    • @deifor
      @deifor Год назад

      @@quasa0 Hi, I have to use the word 'honestly' here to tell you that honestly don't remember lol. All I remember is the debate about if humans come hardwired to use language and hence the way all people learn a language the same way. For example, the fact that 'mama, papa' happens in many languages because our phonetic aparatus makes us naturally utter pa and ma as the first sounds. Or the fact that "no" is the same in many languages, etc. I had the opportunity to talk with him for about 10 minutes at the lobby of Hotel Palco in Havana, I remember his wife was there too. Sadly, I don't remember what I talked with him. I must have been in awe of the guy.

  • @mytechpeople
    @mytechpeople 4 года назад +96

    The still images made the podcast very podcastlike. good job, much easier to pay attention to, for me.

    • @jelleludolf
      @jelleludolf 4 года назад +2

      Same, totally a legitimate podcast.

    • @Scorch428
      @Scorch428 4 года назад +6

      Oh, I just thought he wasnt moving around that much cus hes so old.

    • @maloxi1472
      @maloxi1472 4 года назад +2

      @@Scorch428 good one 👌

    • @zxLoneWolf
      @zxLoneWolf 3 года назад +2

      Just don't look at the screen if it makes it that hard for you to concentrate

  • @michaeldebellis4202
    @michaeldebellis4202 4 года назад +22

    I've been working in AI (mostly applied for business problems although some basic research) since the 80's. The point that Chomsky makes around minute 25 on the difference between how you solve a problem from an engineering perspective and how you develop a scientific theory about how humans solve the problem is something that AI researchers have long been aware of. A common saying in AI is: "planes don't fly by flapping their wings". I.e., there is probably some overlap between how you solve a problem with a computer and how a human solves it just as there are principles of aerodynamics that apply to birds and airplanes. But we shouldn't expect that designing software that can efficiently process natural language is the same as having a theory for how humans process language.

    • @matheusv.deazevedovenicism6883
      @matheusv.deazevedovenicism6883 3 года назад +2

      Extremely insightful! Thank you for taking the time to write this.

    • @Her_Viscera
      @Her_Viscera 2 года назад +1

      Yeah Chomsky no likey AI, reading Daniel Dennetts "Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life" made that crystal clear

    • @michaeldebellis4202
      @michaeldebellis4202 2 года назад +1

      @@Her_Viscera The ironic thing is that after Turing and Von Neumann, the person most responsible for the basic mathematical theory that all software uses is Chomsky. His language hierarchy is critical to understanding things like designing compilers, automated reasoners, and formal languages.
      I think his thoughts on AI are a bit more nuanced though. He has nothing against AI as an engineering discipline which is how it is mostly used, even in research, by most people these days. He also has acknowledged that the computer is clearly an important tool to understand the mind. It is only the inflated claims of people like Roger Schank and Marvin Minsky that AI systems were models of the mind that he was against. As well as current proponents of machine/deep learning who claim that an artificial neural net that processes language is equivalent to a scientific theory of language

  • @dopefi5891
    @dopefi5891 4 года назад +10

    Lex please do another one with Noam, we need to get as much out of his brain as possible before this great mind passes away. I am especially curious about the personal questions you ask these people, about happiness & meaning of life. Having lived 90 years, he could probably write a book about it

  • @seanmccall7277
    @seanmccall7277 2 года назад +1

    The brilliant paleontologist Dr.Bob Bakker lives here in Boulder and I often talk to him when I see him. One day a couple of years ago, I told him I'd come across a quote of Alfred Russell Wallace's that I found interesting. He looked interested and said, " which one" ? I answered, the one where he says in reference to the human brain: " an instrument has been prepared in advance of the needs of its possessor ". Bakker stopped, turned to me and said " and it haunted him for the rest of his life". It was as though I'd struck an important nerve. It was cool. Thought I'd share this. - thanks for that interview. Your podcast means a lot to me.

  • @robinampipparampil
    @robinampipparampil 4 года назад +3

    Thanks Lex Fridman and Prof Chomsky. Great to see an interview about the core work of Prof Noam Chomsky and its implications for Artificial Intelligence. Congratulations Lex!

  • @TrueNeutralEvGenius
    @TrueNeutralEvGenius 2 года назад +7

    I've met Noam Chmsky in the past, we had 30 minutes conversation and it was one of the best conversations I've ever had. As an intellectual myself I was astonoshed by his clear and sharp wit in such solid age. What a brilliant mind and person.

    • @OngoGablogian185
      @OngoGablogian185 2 года назад +1

      Yes, your spelling an grammar really evinces your intellectualism.

    • @TrueNeutralEvGenius
      @TrueNeutralEvGenius 2 года назад

      ​@@OngoGablogian185 English is not the only language in the world, if you didn't know. I know 7 languages, 6 including english were learned completely by myself. What about you, fool, which sucks his own comments with likes? You are pathetic envious person.

  • @moebetta08
    @moebetta08 4 года назад +2

    A great listen! I’ve lost count of how many Chomsky interviews I’ve listened to. This one is up there with some of my favorites!!! Thank you Alex! 🙏🏾 And of course THANK YOU NOAM CHOMSKY!!!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @vikaschenna3274
      @vikaschenna3274 2 года назад

      Can you please recommend a few of his best?

  • @lillytaylor8262
    @lillytaylor8262 4 года назад +13

    I wish more men had your curious yet intellectually humble and unassuming nature. So many people avoid things they don't understand so that they can be the king of their small space.

  • @leeknott8526
    @leeknott8526 Год назад +1

    Your deep honesty and vulnerability when announcing your mistake as well as your complete open hearted ness about Noam made me cry. I just found you a few days ago and am so grateful that this kind of discourse exists, and that you exist. Thank you.

  • @mns8732
    @mns8732 4 года назад +6

    Thank you so very much. One of the most interesting. Chomsky conversations I've heard. You're a skilled interviewer.

  • @thomasmurray5108
    @thomasmurray5108 3 года назад +2

    Lex. Your progress and upward evolution as an interviewer is unmistakable. You get better and better with each podcast. The interviews you submit are a testament to your unflinching open mindedness, your authenticity and your willingness to leave no stone unturned. And you do it all with a searching humility that should remind everyone of us that there is still a truth out there worth fighting for. Thank you. The world is a better place because of the work you are doing.

  • @arianvc8239
    @arianvc8239 4 года назад +2

    Listening to professor Chomsky talk with you is the highlight of my week! Thank you doctor Fridman!
    Defining intelligence as adaptability and exploitation does not limit the ways of thinking to our brain. Machines can think differently, but one of the few tools we have for developing them is to see how well they perform. All we are bound to do for now, is to come up with ideas and playgrounds to compare their performance. The ideas that persist through time, similar to the process of life, will be the alternative ways of thinking. This is part of what professor Chomsky calls Engineering in Deep Learning. A lot of what we know now was considered "Art" at its infancy, "Engineering" when it became transferable and widely-adopted, and then "Science" when it was reverse-engineered, and given philosophical and mathematical basis. Intelligence is by far the hardest thing to engineer, but this is our hope as AI scientists.

    • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
      @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Год назад +1

      Yes. The “other” side of the same coin: science-engineering. Chomsky is for science then engineering; but Geoffrey Hinton is for engineering-then-science. We need both.

  • @Jimboslice128
    @Jimboslice128 3 года назад +4

    I love you Lex. I'm so glad I found your podcast, that someone can be an intellectual, successful and humble. And yet still be a beam of light in what seems like a terrible existence. I appreciate what you do with your work and this podcast. Forever learning, dreaming and achieving. Thank you

  • @juanandrade2998
    @juanandrade2998 3 года назад +3

    I'm at 16:19 and I'm so impressed by how neutral, unbiased and detached his scientific reasoning is from politics.
    I've heard enough Friedman"s guests that I can smell right-ism from 2 miles away on a discussion about integers, but if I wouldn't know about Chomsky's life of advocacy it would be impossible for me to figure out this guy's political views.

  • @chronicpaynegaming8746
    @chronicpaynegaming8746 4 года назад +28

    Every podcast is just perfect. Should be getting millions of views

    • @Scorch428
      @Scorch428 4 года назад

      Needs a Jamie...to "pull shit up"

  • @jennyperez3981
    @jennyperez3981 Год назад

    Thank you Lex, for the extraordinary job you do to present every subject you chose to talk about .
    The ability to present facts without the censorship of the big corporations, you give us the chance to interpret to the ability of our understanding.
    Noam Chomsky is my inspiration and I am deeply grateful for the knowledge he shares and make one see events and life of a different perspective. At the same time gives me some sadness because I feel no matter what I do I can’t change the world or the destruction.
    Thank you again

  • @robertrodger3609
    @robertrodger3609 4 года назад +1

    I haven't even listened to it yet, but what a joy to wake up this morning over here in Germany to see that you interviewed Prof. Chomsky, thank you Lex.

  • @aminesadou9168
    @aminesadou9168 4 года назад +26

    That's great. ! Now waiting for an episode with Judea Pearl on casual learning and causality.

  • @ramnasidharta9536
    @ramnasidharta9536 3 месяца назад

    This episode is so valuable. Lex, your questions were amazing. And what incredible thinker is this man... I love Chomsky.

  • @chris432t6
    @chris432t6 3 года назад

    Although I'm fairly new to Mr. Fridman i like his thinking and enjoy the interviews more than i had expected.
    Thank you Lex for your honesty and authenticity.
    * Mr. Chomsky is an absolute treasure. The audio is all that's needed.

  • @xkc9689
    @xkc9689 4 года назад +89

    Guest level: Completed
    This is the top of the pyramid

  • @noahjaramillo4917
    @noahjaramillo4917 4 года назад +4

    Thank you Lex for all of your time and effort pursuing these excellent conversations. We may never know the influence that you create by connecting us all to these profound thinkers. May all of your efforts be repaid 1000 fold.

  • @brishtiteveja
    @brishtiteveja 4 года назад +13

    Can there be more packed in a ~36 minute video but can feel like a lifetime of wisdom? I feel to say no.

  • @user-dn3tq7jc7z
    @user-dn3tq7jc7z 2 года назад +1

    "The significance of your life is something you create..."
    Big thank you, Lex, from me as a linguist and as a human being... Спасибо!

  • @donaldpiel9575
    @donaldpiel9575 4 года назад +6

    Your podcast and others have unlocked a spark in my mind over the last couple of months. Ive almost developed an addiction for this academic stimulation and I believe it is because I had an attention deficit disorder through school and now I’ve flooded my brain with information that I find actually have interest in and can retain my attention. I’m also finding it hard to be comfortable recently as new ideas about life, our meaning, religion, etc. I don’t feel the same around my family or my friends. I’m just uncomfortable. I can’t explain it.

  • @Steve-yh1pj
    @Steve-yh1pj 2 года назад +3

    Your humble approach never ceases to astound me. The reason you are able to interview these amazing people is you are one of them. Your open mind and ever searching approach means that you will continue to learn which is what puts you amongst those people. Well done!!

  • @dawitzenebe2284
    @dawitzenebe2284 4 года назад +17

    No skip for the adds Lex as far this helps to keep going your amazing work. Two great intellectual icons

  • @alialavib
    @alialavib 4 года назад +4

    Hoped this session was longer. Please do more interviews with Noam. I can't fathom that there comes a day that we will lose this great man.

  • @PhilosopherRex
    @PhilosopherRex 4 года назад

    Chomsky and Herman's "Manufacturing Consent" radically shifted my views on the mass media. I highly recommend the book.

  • @visavou
    @visavou 4 года назад +7

    Stop making a big deal! Problems happen! I just love you for the effort you are putting in this. Thank you!

  • @BiancaAguglia
    @BiancaAguglia 4 года назад +4

    25:30 The more telling question is "how well does it do on something that violates all the rules of language." 😊Brilliant.
    Great interview, Lex. Worth listening to it it several times even without the video. 😊

    • @lexfridman
      @lexfridman  4 года назад +5

      Yes, that line jumped out at me too. It's a profound statement.

  • @leoquesto9183
    @leoquesto9183 2 года назад

    No kittens or stones in this one. You’ve engaged Chomsky in one of best interviews in recent years, Lex. Thanks!

  • @Tombalino
    @Tombalino 4 года назад +4

    Lex remember that Jocko Willink would say that it’s ‘GOOD.’ that the video cut out, now Chomsky’s facial expression will only ever exist in one special place: in the memory of a future legend of technology and conversation.

  • @geoden
    @geoden 4 года назад +1

    Noam Chomsky is more that a remarkable man, he is a gem of humanity. For years I have learned much from him.

  • @giansolomon
    @giansolomon 3 года назад +1

    “The instinct to be free of domination by illegitimate authority is at the core of our nature”. Very interesting to be reminded of the historic context of seemingly modern dilemmas.

  • @daystardaystardaystardayst1865
    @daystardaystardaystardayst1865 2 года назад +1

    I love how easily Chomsky replied to the idea of Neuralink

  • @chrisk1944
    @chrisk1944 4 года назад +1

    Chomsky's voice is expressive to the point that a lack of video in no way diminishes what he says. So, Lex, bitchslap yourself for the screwup, as that's what makes us learn, but rest assured that, with an icon like Noam, nothing was really lost.
    But kneel before the universal gods, and be grateful you had this opportunity.

    • @Kalumbatsch
      @Kalumbatsch 4 года назад +1

      It's better to have a good microphone like this and no video instead of video with crappy audio as is often the case.

  • @michil75
    @michil75 2 года назад

    Noam Chomsky really taught me so much. Really came full circle with his lessons. Highly highly recommend Chomsky !!

  • @alexander.boykov
    @alexander.boykov 4 года назад +3

    I hope he feels good and it was really a technical issue. It’s not a problem at all. It was great to listen you both! Lex, thanks for your work.

  • @thetawaves48
    @thetawaves48 4 года назад +50

    Chomsky is unusual because he has the courage to tell the truth.

    • @sheikowi
      @sheikowi 4 года назад +1

      His concoction "of the truth:. His worship of his concocting. Like witchCRAFT.

    • @TheVeritas2100
      @TheVeritas2100 3 года назад +3

      @HenryDavidT LOL - time to take meds ... :-)

  • @ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge
    @ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge 4 года назад

    this is an interview podcast that gives practical utility to some fragments of the wealth of knowledge that Professor Chomsky has amassed access to and gained understanding of...I am humbled, intrigued and inspired. Thank you for adding value to my life (and to the world) in this manner.

  • @witchywatson1615
    @witchywatson1615 4 года назад +9

    Thank you for being thoughfull with the Ad placement, your a Star, from a happy viewer in Scotland x

  • @987zyx
    @987zyx 8 месяцев назад +2

    You're an exceptional listener, making people feel truly heard and understood

  • @InfanteDifunto
    @InfanteDifunto 4 года назад +2

    I can’t give you enough likes for this interview. Noam Chomsky is one of the most brilliant and inspiring persons I’ve ever come across. Thank you for the great questions you asked, too!

  • @GavGreaves
    @GavGreaves 4 года назад +33

    Accidents happen to us all, Lex. I really appreciate your amazing podcasts. Thankyou.

    • @hubrisnxs310
      @hubrisnxs310 4 года назад +1

      Karmic/Social/Actual points for taking the time to express empathy and gratitude, Gav.
      I hope, but do not believe, we/you would do this in a closed system....but that was a selfish aside to a selfish inside that differentiates and signifies nothing

  • @toddboothbee1361
    @toddboothbee1361 4 года назад

    Clear, high level thinking seems to come so easily from Noam Chomsky. For some reason this is heartening.

  • @donpierik810
    @donpierik810 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic interview. Always love to hear Noam in his true wheelhouse. Who wouldn't be impressed! Well done Lex!

  • @sarahashra4776
    @sarahashra4776 4 года назад

    You are humble, and I'm touched by your honesty and integrity. Thank you for this and all you do to help humanity

  • @ivanbarbosa81
    @ivanbarbosa81 2 года назад +1

    Two brilliant Minds.You are on to something Young man.Keep it up.Great show.Being a bookworm does pay off.You have a beautiful soul.

  • @ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge
    @ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge 4 года назад

    'we use language to reason out reality, structure of our brain determines/limits our perception of our reality, the structure of our language does navigate our attention to what is being said (example: we prioritize the more complex computation to the simpler), you provide meaning to your life via your actions'
    My takeaway hence is: Be mindful towards the language that you use (in and out) as it shapes your reality.
    (unfortunately I am just stating what I have been already working on for almost a deacade)

  • @errgo2713
    @errgo2713 4 года назад +1

    Chomsky's distinction between engineering/science in this interview is as crucial as it is too often overlooked in machine learning and datascience circles.

    • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
      @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Год назад

      But - a big but, I believe Chomsky also misleads people, at least myself as one, to underestimate LLM, and, deep learning in general. “Pre-training” is equivalent to pre-human and early human evolution. If, a big if - I really want to hear Chomsky’s comments on this crude idea of mine (that is the reason I put it here, hoping the host or even better can happen to see it) - that is the case, then, Chomsky and Geoffrey Hinton can have a “United theory”.

  • @sonasalami3825
    @sonasalami3825 Год назад

    Your humility and podcast - are the best. Wow. Noam .....

  • @manishsingh900
    @manishsingh900 3 года назад

    I really wished that there would've been a video of you two guys. Loved the conversation, in this podcast, the voice is like a old mountain talking. Chilling❄❄❄

  • @richardmeade2477
    @richardmeade2477 3 года назад

    Really nice to hear noam talk about these things as he is usually asked questions relating to US foreign policy. Thank you.

  • @MichaelDZ440
    @MichaelDZ440 4 года назад +3

    Love hearing lex’s excitement in the intro. Such a lucky guy

  • @arnav257
    @arnav257 3 года назад +4

    You know, Chomsky has said that he avoids injecting any kind of animation in his demeanor solely because he believes that the only important aspect of his wisdom is the content of his ideas, not the way he presents them.
    By some cosmic coincidence, it's amusing that the lack of video for this podcast fits in perfectly well with this belief of his.

  • @tusharghadage1063
    @tusharghadage1063 4 года назад +8

    Its really great that you are doing providing one of great minds and scientists to common people like us keep it up

  • @mattday2656
    @mattday2656 Год назад

    You seem really nice, I met Noam 20 years ago, I cried during this

  • @clavo3352
    @clavo3352 4 года назад +4

    Absolutely great interview! The meaning of life is to maximize the significance of your life within and without limitations you encounter. It is a challenge to express yourself creatively. There was a song in the late 1960s or early 1970s called "Express yourself", one line in that song was silly but yet meaningful: "It's not what you look like when you're doin what you're doin; It's what your doin when your doin what you look like you're doin!" So, therefor your failure to capture the video is meaningless because the verbal weight of the interview was where the gravity of the exercise existed.

  • @maync1
    @maync1 Год назад

    I madly studied transformational grammar in the early 1970s and have been Chomky's follower since.

  • @kylegushue
    @kylegushue 4 года назад

    Thanks for respecting us and keeping the listening experience uninterrupted!!

  • @isaacdefrain9595
    @isaacdefrain9595 3 года назад

    The introduction to this video was so humble, vulnerable, and humanizing. I respect Lex a lot more after seeing that. Sorry for your loss, Lex. Great interview nonetheless!
    A serious question for Noam: will you be my grandpa? (that would be so cool)

  • @ianowskilab
    @ianowskilab 4 года назад

    Lex, I loved the questions you asked. I wanted to know Chomsky's answer on many of the questions you asked for e long time. I appreciate that your interview. You did not asked questions that we would all had known the answer in advance. Great job, and always a pleasure to listen to Chomsky.

  • @petarkasapinov7324
    @petarkasapinov7324 4 года назад

    Love the fact that you've added full captions and also divided up the timeline. This way people can watch on 2x speed and also skip parts of the video if it's not for them. This makes it that people can watch more videos in total.

  • @radhakrishna1845
    @radhakrishna1845 4 года назад

    Lex Friedman,
    We all need self exploration... Who am I....
    I am not the body.... Not the thoughts... The mind....
    I am the soul..... The primordial energy... Behind all manifestations
    It is omnipresent, omnipotent..
    It has no topological barriers... No boundaries....
    Best of Luck in self exploration...

  • @shinehy403
    @shinehy403 10 месяцев назад +1

    I remember well before gaining the capacity for language. Reason and thoughts, very analytical, including problem solving were all extremely prevalent before I learned vocabulary, before my inner thoughts were expressed through language. I would explain it as saying that without developing language you still have the same thoughts, but they come in concepts, and often you will form mental images, which you may then correlate to these thought and emotionally provoked concepts. In fact, I would go so far as to say that lack of language highly increases intuitiveness and awareness. It has been my personal experience that human language implements self restriction, social limitations, and causes divisions. While Mr. Chomsky does an outstanding job of linguistically articulating our reality, it seems to me the problem is that so many are limiting their understanding of the world based on language exposure, and have collectively abandoned the use of higher level consciousness where information is exchanged through energy.

    • @ZedNebuloid
      @ZedNebuloid 5 месяцев назад

      What is consciousness? It seems humans have it... Do plants? Not everyone agrees. Can an inanimate object have consciousness? Is everything a collective consciousness? Is it all a simulation? Does it even matter when the universe continues to move without us?

  • @ohio_dino
    @ohio_dino Год назад +1

    Wild. Lex interviews with Lex to the audience. He let us know Noam Chomsky is the guy he always wanted to meet and get to share with us. How does this have a lonely 790 comments. Lex told us this podcast is a side journey. It's an adventure for all of us.

  • @robertc6343
    @robertc6343 4 года назад +1

    The way he explains the difference between science, critical experiments and ML. Brilliant! Extremely interesting interview. Thank you.

  • @marietta5316
    @marietta5316 4 года назад +115

    "The significance of your life is something you create." Existentialist.

    • @indricotherium4802
      @indricotherium4802 4 года назад +1

      ...said the serial killer. (I'm being devil's advocate).

    • @waswaswad
      @waswaswad 4 года назад +5

      If there is no god, you can only pretend you have your own purpose. I don't believe anybody can give himself a real purpose, just like an ant or a dog can't make their own purpose. It's all just playing pretend.

    • @indricotherium4802
      @indricotherium4802 4 года назад

      @@waswaswad : well, there are purposes and purposes. If the purpose you mean is meaningful and non-trivial (not, for example making it your life's work to amass a pile of dead ants) it is reasonable to argue that this purpose has been provided you from an external source. The mistake is to assume it must have come via a supernatural being. There is far better evidence that evolution, the mechanism by which our species lives and potentially thrives and improves in the environment it finds itself in, is a better explanation.

    • @chrissmithdoe2100
      @chrissmithdoe2100 4 года назад +3

      @@waswaswad you're confusing pretending with creating... think about it...

    • @otherism
      @otherism 4 года назад

      Stephen Paul reprogrammed

  • @Mintyseden
    @Mintyseden 4 года назад +1

    Noam just gave a useful answer to the ever rising question of “what is the meaning of our existence” thank you for this podcast, wish it was muuuuch longer tho. ❤️

  • @dziembaj
    @dziembaj 4 года назад +1

    i feel like in every moment the screen image is adequate to the conversation. brilliant effect!

    • @Solerio
      @Solerio 4 года назад

      🌪️❄️

  • @anthonymunmor6252
    @anthonymunmor6252 3 года назад

    Lex you are not a silly looking russian. You are a wonderful human being, I love your podcast. The best guests and wonderfully thoughtful and humble questioning, keep on doing what your doing pal. I am better for having found your conversations, peace to you brother.

  • @charlesissleepy
    @charlesissleepy 3 года назад

    regarding neurallink and qualitative differences in cognition, "quantity has a quality all its own". By increasing the bandwidth of human machine interface, unforeseen doors will open. Drinking, swimming, drowning, and flooding all use the same water.

  • @ernietollar407
    @ernietollar407 3 года назад

    Noam Chomsky is the greatest we have. While I will surely never possess his ability to process and retain massive amounts of complex information, or his analytical prowess, I humbly ask/wonder : if there are ways in which his assertions on human language are somewhat anthropmorphic? My question for Noam , would be to ask him for his differentiation between how it is fundamentally different than that of other animals language, forms of communication, thought and expression. By the way , Lex: this is not diminished by the fact that it is a purely audio file. The photo is beautiful. He does nuance his assessment of starting at 9:00

  • @truthobservatory6767
    @truthobservatory6767 4 года назад

    It’s crazy how Chomsky is one of the greatest linguistists of the century who often presents the biological organism vs the angelic being dichotomy but has never heard of the angelic Enochian language, Dr John Dee, or the angelic conversations and their impact in the modern world. I know cause I emailed him and asked! God damn the information wars!!

  • @nathangreenspan645
    @nathangreenspan645 3 года назад

    Lex your emotion, intelligence, and emotional intelligence are very vivid and much appreciated.

  • @GS-wc2uh
    @GS-wc2uh 3 года назад

    Hellow I am a new listener I just found your videos. I really liked the last question and the way he answered the meaning of our lives or purpose are exactly what we make of them, so simple and so profound. Thank you for all this amazing rain of knowledge you and your gracious guest's share to the world.

  • @simon_jakobsson
    @simon_jakobsson 3 года назад

    Noam Chomsky is a treasure. So are you Lex, this was an amazing conversation to listen to.

  • @edt8597
    @edt8597 4 года назад +6

    Wow
    That's what I said just as I saw this in my feed
    Most genuine wow it surely was
    Lex you have reached the peak already
    Elon was the coolest guest imaginable
    But this is the biggest guest any body can have in our times
    Dominant pundits and hosts are afraid of hosting this most honest of giants
    But my man Lex isn't 👏👏👏

  • @lunaris20
    @lunaris20 4 года назад +2

    THIS. You got Chomsky on 👏🏽👏🏽
    (I’ll use much of this to further develop my Sci-Fi course. Thank you.)

  • @EvildeadIII
    @EvildeadIII 2 года назад

    Please, please, please Lex Fridman make a sequel, or a round 2. Would be amazing to see you two talk again. I would love to hear more about his anarkist ideas, decentralisation, moral, etc - what differs from Michael Malice? if any.

  • @sicknado
    @sicknado 3 года назад

    Remember the days when RUclips had only one ad? (actually, there were 0 ads originally if you really want to get into it). It went from ONE 3 second ad in the beginning, to then 5 seconds, to 30. Now two minutes....At the start of the video, the middle and the end.
    I hope people are starting to GET IT?

  • @reinerwilhelms-tricarico344
    @reinerwilhelms-tricarico344 3 года назад

    That was great. Noam Chomsky is still way ahead of almost all of us. May he live forever.
    Listening to this I got distracted by liking the example about linear order in language, that with with the car mechanic, and played with it: Start with the most nonsensical sentence and use Google translate to convert it to your mother language, and then iterate translation back and forth between the two languages. Soon it will reach a "stable cycle":
    English: Carefully the guy who fixed the car is tall
    German: Vorsichtig ist der Typ, der das Auto repariert hat, groß.
    English: Careful, the guy who fixed the car is tall.
    German: Vorsicht, der Typ, der das Auto repariert hat, ist groß.
    English: Beware, the guy who fixed the car is great.
    German: Vorsicht, der Typ, der das Auto repariert hat, ist großartig.
    English: Beware, the guy who fixed the car is great.
    After that it found a stable cycle with the last two versions. Now let's try Japanese:
    Carefully the guy who fixed the car is tall.
    慎重に車を修理した人は背が高い。
    Those who have carefully repaired their cars are tall.
    車を丁寧に修理した人は背が高い。
    The person who carefully repaired the car is tall.
    車を丁寧に修理した人は背が高い。
    The person who carefully repaired the car is tall.
    (Japanese "fixed it").
    Vocab:
    車: kuruma : car
    背が高い : sega takai: tall (back high)
    慎重に: shinshou ni: carefully
    修理した人: shouri shita hito : person who repaired (repair did person)
    Let's try French next:
    Carefully the guy who fixed the car is tall.
    Soigneusement, le gars qui a réparé la voiture est grand.
    Carefully, the guy who fixed the car is great.
    Soigneusement, le gars qui a réparé la voiture est génial.
    Carefully, the guy who fixed the car is awesome.
    Obviously all these translations make "sense". Not necessarily in a way that it is intended, but what could likely be intended.
    BTW. It's even more fun to use more than just two languages together, for instance in a cycle. It "converges" almost as fast. Of course, now that I'm hooked, I'll try that with an entire nonsense story. My hypothesis is that after a few cycles the nonsense will become meaningful in some way :-)