START OF THE END For Predecessor
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Is this the START OF THE END For Predecessor! After dropping the new community report Predecessor has divided the community! We deep diinto there statements. Watch in depth Predecessor gameplay from a top player! Support me by following the Twitch: / ctrlaltaustin
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I don’t give a crap about Ranked. Skimmed thru the first 16 minutes of this video and it sounds like you’re complaining just to complain
Frustration brews when you work so hard to promote a game and form a community that loves the game for the devs to neglect how the community feels!
@@CtrlAltAustin let me correct that typo real quick: form a community --> gather a horde of paying simps
This is a bad take. The last two versions of this game failed to make it passed this stage, for the reasons they listed here. Instead of trying to understand that, you didn't finish a sentence before complaining. I'd rather be able to get into a game PERIOD, then have longer queue times because you want ranked rolled out so fast, when I'm sure a majority of players are casuals anyway. Give them a chance to get this game off the ground, I'd love to not have to wait another couple years for another game studio to pick this game up.
They said ranked has impacted pubs “minimal”!! You didn’t watch the entire video!
The game has been on the ground for a while now, when are they gonna take off? There won’t be any game to get into period since they are not going right about promoting and improving the game, we all just wanna play too but if the game continues it’s issues and toxicity, I’ll just be leaving like most of the playerbase does :((
Must hangout with krashy.
I DOUBT most players are casual. Casual gamers ARE NOT touching this game. Everyone's played the other 100 versions of this garbage by now, no ones interested anymore. The only idiots left are the hardcore fanboys who refuse to believe it's BEEN dead. When the devs won't even host servers in the FUCKING US on both sides, you know it's dead. They can't even afford the servers. (Because no one is playing)
I don’t necessarily disagree with your take but this studio….given their issues with balancing new heros and ranked mode……this studio is still crushing in terms of overall game play
I mean what else is out there ? Smite ? Are you kidding me
And with the game being open beta they aren’t making any money unless you buy the skins basically
So yea ranked mode isn’t quite ready yet
I’m sure the interest in ranked mode is a lot denser than they originally anticipated
They have families too
And honestly without donors, sponsors and skin purchases they working for free so in terms of longevity this company needs to be at gamescom and showcased for sponsors and increased player base
I agree with the issues with ranked
I know there are those like yourself in content creating wanting to fly into ranked mode for more meaningful games
And consistent level of play from both teams
And I’m sure it’s coming
It takes time
Money
And limiting the game ending mistakes
So, ranked mode is coming out in pieces but unless something goes horribly wrong …..it’s coming.
I don’t think we’re at the point yet to go in on the studio
The game is essentially a finished product and instead of getting it to market forcing player to pay for it to get some revenue in and THEN develop and drop ranked mode
They still expanding the game again and again while it’s still free to play
Getting the player base where it needs to be before taking it to market
Not playing devils advocate
Just seeing both sides of the isle here.
Really surprised they didn’t even mention the skillgap between players… I had a game yesterday with a 650 mmr offlane playing into a 1900 mmr…. Unplayable at the moment, game will die if they don’t fix it.
They are trying to to prioritize wait ques. Pubs are pubs. Sure it can try to balance, but wait ques are the biggest threat to any game. If people have to wait 5-10mins to get a game, half the people would quit.
Now if it was ranked, I'd say it's completely different. You wait for balanced game to play ur match. But half the problem isn't low mmr. Half the problem is communication. Too many times you see people in chat be completely disrespectful. Toxicity ruins all games.
People will throw match's, afk, or sit and type when they should be farming. If off lane is loosing instead of harassing them about dying because they are countered or just not as good as the other player. Help them, rotate, give advice on what item they should build.
They can't fix that my guy...Do you see how many players they have? And that's on ALL OF STEAM. On all servers etc. And yes, it's also on consoles, but the graphs are ALWAYS identical in terms of the trends/average players. (Used to be much different about 7-10 years ago but now it's a pretty even split between PC gamers and console gamers especially post covid)
So at MOST this game is peaking at 5-7k. But again, that's across ALL servers that they have up.
You either get horribly matched, or you won't ever get a match. At least not without waiting much longer. If your okay with spending more time in the lobby than in a game, then best of luck to ya bud. You deserve it lmfao.
@@dangeloenglish4284 that shit, although i agree, doesnt work. my offlane grux being 0/6 is not open to advice, he will just flame me out if i tell him to build X item cuz he already mad losing to another grux (clearly skill issue). wish what u said applies but it doesnt
It’s not that difficult to understand…we don’t have enough players for a continuous ranked mode. It will split the player base and add to que time…ultimately, it can kill the game
I thought that by now, that point was pretty obvious haha. But I guess not.
The answer: they need to spend some money to advertise/promote the game
Exactly stop punishing players and market the game better!
The marketing is absolutely abysmal for this game, almost like they don't want it to succeed...
Exactly!!!
You got like a 4th grade reading & comprehension lvl.
Maybe he's drunk
@@chris2ill660 7th on a good day, but hey look we interpret things differently and as a passionate player of Predecessor ima speak my mind on how I FEEL! You don’t have to agree but at least hear the main take aways!
In all honesty, I fully agree with you:
1. I don't understand why they are so much fixated on the queue time. In EU the queue time are insanely low. Its lower than 1mn, max 2, every single evening. During office hours its maybe 3-4mn. It's super low... Games with 1000 more players take longer to fill.
I don't think anybody will complain to wait a couple of minutes more in order to play ranked / standard while ranked is on.
2. Ranked timers is an abysmal mistake. Got a demanding job and 3 kids. Could do 6 ranked games up to now... Great...
3. On the over-balancing. Also here fully agree with you. Overbalancing kill games and the devs spend all their efforts in making sure everything is balanced instead of adding content / focusing on other things.
Yet I'm not THAT gloomy, and hope that Omeda has their plan, and will start focusing on additional content and rewards. The gameplay is solid, and the balance is roughly OK imho.
Let the game cook --> release additional heroes --> release content/rewards while the game cooks --> look at your data, balance things up --> rinse & repeat
Instead of
Balancing --> look at data --> balancing --> new hero --> balancing --> look at data --> balancing --> release content --> rinse & repeat
i’m not super knowledgeable on predecessor i picked it up last week and have racked up 40 hours already im having a blast. but in saying that im playing on sea from australia with around 130 ping which i dont really mind all too much in casual but i can tell you if they rushed the comp game modes and the sea server was dead i definitely dont think i would of had the patience to wait the extended que times and learn the game to eventually move into ranked.
i do see your side but just thought some insight from a very new player might help
Now you know what it’s like for Australia to suffer, we only have SEA server as our playable server (since it’s the closest to Australia) and we have to permanently play with ping issues all the time. It’s the smallest community too, so we only play with the same 20 people or so on rotation, on top of that if you’re a high fake ranked player, you wait up to 30 mins for a game to verse people “your rank”
We also don’t have any access to ranked, and if they think NA West is a low playerbase, we are practically non-existent to them. As Australia always is with games.
Ya sound like a cry baby not getting his way.
Being honest and showing passion for a game is not crying
Biggest fail is the people that queue for jungles just to join solo and keep you under leveled all game
TELL EM BABY GRUX
BUFF GRUX!!!!
Peope going to be mean I believe it comes more for the love of how amazing this game can BE!!!!
I dont think you understand why old paragon failed. like pred is surving on the nostalgia alone. it can be better but im not against devs taking time to make sure ranked has a better roll out.Few things that are just hard to balance for a game to have even a decent release
-marketing
-matchmaking cuz matching making in any game is a problem (also severs aren't built for the world to play on servers take time to build up. I just don't think its gonna be that big of a problem at least not for the future.
I don’t think paragon was pay to win was it?
No it wasn’t
In the beginning there were card packs that you could buy that’d boost certain stats of hero’s. Which would give you an advantage! Later in paragons life they got rid of the pay to win aspect but it was still there.
I hear u bro but paragon didn't go down because it failed ..Epic Ended Paragon because they needed the Devs to work on Fortnite high demand .....Witch is why Omeda Studios and others have brought it back because of it big community...I thought you would have known this .....
Agreed with the Fortnite statement but don’t forget the lack of balance and wacky meta they had in there game! They weren’t on top of there game like predecessor’s team! I personally in my opinion want the Devs to hear the community and play off of that instead of “experts” the community drives the game!
@CtrlAltAustin You're entitled to You're opinion you just taking a crap on Paragon having wacky meta Is every moba...And Paragon was successful just got taken down before it could tap into its full potential as a Beta..And if it wasn't we wouldn't be here talking about Predecessor...Epic was very small gaming Stuido and had shut down Paragon for Fortnite....Paragon wad wacky and it didn't have Rank but still did good.... As a Sorry for killing a good game Epic released the assets so any can tap into Paragon full potential....You should be thankful that Omeda is testing Rank in a Beta...This isn't a full release and at full release your Rank will get reset so why are you even complaining about this.. Omeda Stuidos don't kno crap about mobas or alot of things frankly...they have old Paragon devs and Riot devs from LOL helping them...so let tge professionals do thier jobs and put your small Rank status aside...
Who cares about NAW.... lmao
Being real though i wonder if Instead of naw and nae they just did NA Central like some other games... i wonder if that could be an option.
My personal opinion is the game isnt ready to be fully promoted right now, we cant fool ourselves. I know allot of streamers in particular want more and things to be done faster for content, Which i mostly agree with all the loud angry voices in the community partly. But i think we are fooling ourselves if we think the game is ready to be straight up released and promoted right now.
ps... lets add more toxicity and get all chat in the game so we can call people bums.
God you make this so hard to listen too just say what you want to say
Yeah I should have calmly said what needed to be said but I was upset and let my passion for the game take over!
first
@@jamieturner4248 FIRST!!! Let’s gooooo!!!💯🔥💯🔥
Yh i agree, its bs that ranked aint 24/7 i can only play one game of it cause of work
@@amerrajsingh and losing that 1 game sky rockets toxicity of our community!!! Pushing veteran players away from the game!
Games entertaining but it’ll never make a big esports splash. Devs have no idea how to balance or influence metas. They are literally just copy and pasting someone else’s home work lol
Dude is right 🤷♂️
Bad take imo. I'm glad they dropped the patch early to help their workfliw
This isn't the start of the end...This games BEEN dead lmfao. It's just got a hardcore community desperately trying to keep it afloat. There is a reason 100 different versions of this shit have failed already. 2k players for a moba game and WITH A RANKED MODE, is never going to work. At least not in any capacity where everyone is happy.
If queue times are ALREADY so bad, what makes you think this is the START of the end? Game can't even have 24/7 ranked mode or servers across the entire country lmfao. But people are still clinging on desperately it's so funny. They aren't going to spend money on more server uptime for such tiny player numbers. It just isn't worth the money for them. THAT is the actual answer. Money. As it always is.
Too much money for servers. And even more money to keep certain servers up 24/7 instead of only limited times. Plus, this is their way of saying "Our game has legitimately NO players. If we allow you to play whenever you want in ranked, you'll never find a match"
No one wants to play this game. No matter how much they promote it. THIS GAME has been around for ages now in many different forms. People HAVE played it already. No one wants to stick with it.
Also, you guys aren't doing a good job holding up the community to begin with. Games got no one playing. So you guys as content creators aren't doing the game any favors. And definitely not promoting it well.