"Nobody puts baby in the corner" wasn't about where she was seated at the table. It's referencing the fact that children are often put in the corner as punishment. Swayze hated that line. * the dad wasn't painted as a bad guy but he definitely made mistakes. He was a hypocrite. He doesn't know Robbie anymore than he knows Johnny but he's basing his opinions of them on their social status/class. That's why Baby said he let her down too.
Pennys attitude towards Baby is pretty reasonable. She just told that young, rich girl that she was kicked out at 16 and had to dance for rich people ever since just to survive and what does naive little Baby answer? "I envy you!" Yes, sure. 😂
So the resort, Kellermans, was a Jewish resort. Jewish people weren't "welcome" at other resorts in the 60's and built their own. The waiters are Jewish guys so Robbie was a good match in the dad's eyes. Johny is not. When Niel says he is going to head down south with some of the bus boys for a "freedom ride" some Jewish college students would go down south to help register black people to vote during the civil rights movement. Some were even killed for helping.
@@gloriebluestein9721 It's never really outright said, in the movie or the book, but I've always firmly believed that Neil was saying anything he could think of to get into Baby's pants. He guesses that she's an English major, because that's what most rich college girls at the time majored in while searching for their "mrs degree" (per my mother, about the same age), and when she corrects him and says that she's studying economics and planning to go into the Peace Corps he diverts his flirting tactics. If he did actually go Freedom Riding to help out, great for him, but I suspect as soon as the summer was over he was right back at the hotel manager school where grandpa expects him to be.
he was quick to judge people based on their positions in life , it shows people with money can be bad and people with no money deserve m,ore than to be cast off as nobodies
I love the dad almost entirely because it's Jerry Orbach. I'd be curious to know what my feelings would be toward him with almost any other actor in the role.
@@gloriebluestein9721 the position he was judging was pretty frickin awful. I can't really blame him for his reaction, and he came around very quickly when someone finally told him the truth of it.
This movie is supposed to take place in the Catskill Mountains here in NY- basically "city people"- wealthy New Yorkers- would escape the smells and heat of the city and spend summers up here (where I am) at resorts in the Catskills. The Catskills are close enough that they're a fairly easy drive, so dads would send their families for the whole summer to stay, while he would commute back and forth, spending, say, Tuesday through Thursday in the city and then coming back for the weekends. A lot of the resorts catered to Jewish families in terms of dietary or social rules. The resorts would have music, dancing, comedians, different types of lessons and activities, like summer camp! The ones from that time are all gone now, I think the last one to close was The Nevele in the 1980s, although there's a Resorts World casino somewhere up here now (I've driven by there on Rt 17 but I can't remember where it is, exactly).
Watermelons are essential to dance parties, lol. You cut a hole in the top of one and insert a bottle of Everclear. Once the watermelon has soaked up the alcohol, you've got a spiked watermelon.
Fun fact: the montage where it shows Swayze running his finger down her arm and she kept laughing was actually real. The annoyance on Swayze’s face is real because the actress for Baby I can’t remember her real name was ticklish.
I always loved the dad. The way he trusted baby until she proved she lied, in a big way. I love that he respected her enough to give her money, no questions asked. And $250 back then would be thousands today. So that was a huge leap of faith for him and she used it to do something that was illegal at the time and got her seriously injured. She could have died if dad hadn’t treated her. I love that the dad was so sweet and gentle and nonjudgmental with penny. Swayze was an actual dancer.
Baby duped her dad into paying for an illegal abortion. He would go to prison and lose his medical license. And yes, when children were bad back in the day, parents would tell them to stand in a corner with their nose in the corner. I thought that was common knowledge but it seems people don't know that now a days. I guess standing in a corner isnt' a thing anymore. lol
I don't like it super much but I like it as 1) class-conflict commentary between the rich guests and the working class workers who have their own territories in this resort and she crosses the class line and there's so much symbolism about these and the subplot about the stealing and who gets suspected plays into that; and 2) as an abortion drama, like the abortion plot is done surprisingly well and progressive for that time, because literally no one blames or disparages the woman for being pregnant or for having an abortion, everyone thinks it's the fault of the man who made her pregnant and the father-doctor is willing to help the woman and angry at the man he thinks responsible and all that. Oh, and there's some dancing, too, I guess.
Heh, listening to you talk about how "creepy" the age difference thing is, whilst I'm in the UK where 16 is legal like 🤣 Also, the age of consent could have been different at that time, or in that state.
@@AdamfromFWCI There is a Netflix show called "The Movies that Made Us" (such a GREAT show) and there's an episode about the making of this movie, give it a watch if it's available there! Also covers movies like Ghostbusters, Alien, lots of iconic films.
Swayze was a professional ballet dancer before he started acting. His mother was a teacher owning a studio. He had to quit dancing balet because a serious knee injury and even during the filming here he often was in a lot of pain. It actually was clear for me from the first glimpses of the movie in the video for Time of my Life that there's no way in h..ll he learned the dance routine just for the movie - just the way he is holding himself litteraly screams Dancer! No one expected much from this movie but it was like a earthquake - I vividly remember staying in line for the tickets like every teenager multiple times ("only" 3times😅) - The line went out of the theater down the sidewalk nearly to the bus stop 😂
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"Nobody puts baby in the corner" wasn't about where she was seated at the table. It's referencing the fact that children are often put in the corner as punishment. Swayze hated that line.
* the dad wasn't painted as a bad guy but he definitely made mistakes. He was a hypocrite. He doesn't know Robbie anymore than he knows Johnny but he's basing his opinions of them on their social status/class. That's why Baby said he let her down too.
I ,for one, was completely ok with every time Swayze popped his top off 🔥😂
Pennys attitude towards Baby is pretty reasonable. She just told that young, rich girl that she was kicked out at 16 and had to dance for rich people ever since just to survive and what does naive little Baby answer? "I envy you!" Yes, sure. 😂
So the resort, Kellermans, was a Jewish resort. Jewish people weren't "welcome" at other resorts in the 60's and built their own. The waiters are Jewish guys so Robbie was a good match in the dad's eyes. Johny is not. When Niel says he is going to head down south with some of the bus boys for a "freedom ride" some Jewish college students would go down south to help register black people to vote during the civil rights movement. Some were even killed for helping.
Also abortions were illegal in the 60's so Penny had to go to back alley abortionist. This movie had a lot of plot points realistic to the time period
i kind of like that about niel......he was arrogant but he was also still doing some good things, multi layered
@@gloriebluestein9721 It's never really outright said, in the movie or the book, but I've always firmly believed that Neil was saying anything he could think of to get into Baby's pants. He guesses that she's an English major, because that's what most rich college girls at the time majored in while searching for their "mrs degree" (per my mother, about the same age), and when she corrects him and says that she's studying economics and planning to go into the Peace Corps he diverts his flirting tactics. If he did actually go Freedom Riding to help out, great for him, but I suspect as soon as the summer was over he was right back at the hotel manager school where grandpa expects him to be.
Yeah, I love the dad. As far as I can tell, his only problem was not allowing Baby to explain the situation. Gotta love the good dad representation.
he was quick to judge people based on their positions in life , it shows people with money can be bad and people with no money deserve m,ore than to be cast off as nobodies
I love the dad almost entirely because it's Jerry Orbach. I'd be curious to know what my feelings would be toward him with almost any other actor in the role.
@@gloriebluestein9721 the position he was judging was pretty frickin awful. I can't really blame him for his reaction, and he came around very quickly when someone finally told him the truth of it.
Patrick Swayze actually wrote and performed She’s like the wind.
Johnny's cousin who carried the watermelons is so cute.
This movie is supposed to take place in the Catskill Mountains here in NY- basically "city people"- wealthy New Yorkers- would escape the smells and heat of the city and spend summers up here (where I am) at resorts in the Catskills. The Catskills are close enough that they're a fairly easy drive, so dads would send their families for the whole summer to stay, while he would commute back and forth, spending, say, Tuesday through Thursday in the city and then coming back for the weekends. A lot of the resorts catered to Jewish families in terms of dietary or social rules. The resorts would have music, dancing, comedians, different types of lessons and activities, like summer camp! The ones from that time are all gone now, I think the last one to close was The Nevele in the 1980s, although there's a Resorts World casino somewhere up here now (I've driven by there on Rt 17 but I can't remember where it is, exactly).
Watermelons are essential to dance parties, lol. You cut a hole in the top of one and insert a bottle of Everclear. Once the watermelon has soaked up the alcohol, you've got a spiked watermelon.
Fun fact: the montage where it shows Swayze running his finger down her arm and she kept laughing was actually real. The annoyance on Swayze’s face is real because the actress for Baby I can’t remember her real name was ticklish.
Jennifer Grey. Her father is Joel Grey.
Baby was 16-17 yrs old where Johnny was 25 thats another concern for her father!
Your Madeline Kahn reference 🔥🙉🔥 Yeeeeesssss!!!!
One of the best soundtracks! Love watching people react to it for the first time, keep up the good work bebé!
I always loved the dad. The way he trusted baby until she proved she lied, in a big way. I love that he respected her enough to give her money, no questions asked. And $250 back then would be thousands today. So that was a huge leap of faith for him and she used it to do something that was illegal at the time and got her seriously injured. She could have died if dad hadn’t treated her. I love that the dad was so sweet and gentle and nonjudgmental with penny. Swayze was an actual dancer.
Right? The dad was a total legend this whole movie, that's why I feel that Swayze confronting him was kind of undeserved lol
“So… everyone gonna be in the show?” “Not you” made me laugh
Great reaction bro! This is a great movie to rewatch!! And the OST sooo good!
Baby duped her dad into paying for an illegal abortion. He would go to prison and lose his medical license. And yes, when children were bad back in the day, parents would tell them to stand in a corner with their nose in the corner. I thought that was common knowledge but it seems people don't know that now a days. I guess standing in a corner isnt' a thing anymore. lol
you should watch the impossible, I wanna see you cry lol
It's impossible to watch that movie and not cry honestly
I don't like it super much but I like it as 1) class-conflict commentary between the rich guests and the working class workers who have their own territories in this resort and she crosses the class line and there's so much symbolism about these and the subplot about the stealing and who gets suspected plays into that; and 2) as an abortion drama, like the abortion plot is done surprisingly well and progressive for that time, because literally no one blames or disparages the woman for being pregnant or for having an abortion, everyone thinks it's the fault of the man who made her pregnant and the father-doctor is willing to help the woman and angry at the man he thinks responsible and all that. Oh, and there's some dancing, too, I guess.
8:40 pretty much sums it up
Your thinking about footloose
I think your granddad is probably Francis with an I, not Frances with an E, though.
Heh, listening to you talk about how "creepy" the age difference thing is, whilst I'm in the UK where 16 is legal like 🤣
Also, the age of consent could have been different at that time, or in that state.
Do yourself a favour.... don't watch my reaction to Clueless lol
@AdamfromFWCI I haven't seen Clueless and I don't watch reactions to things I haven't seen. So all good 👍
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Fun fact- Jennifer Grey and Patrick Swayze HATED each other. It made for enormous on-screen chemistry and a messy set.
Swayze did look pretty annoyed lol
@@AdamfromFWCI There is a Netflix show called "The Movies that Made Us" (such a GREAT show) and there's an episode about the making of this movie, give it a watch if it's available there! Also covers movies like Ghostbusters, Alien, lots of iconic films.
@@AdamfromFWCI the part where she's ticklish and keeps laughing was real, as was Swayze's *annoyance. 😆
Swayze was a professional ballet dancer before he started acting. His mother was a teacher owning a studio. He had to quit dancing balet because a serious knee injury and even during the filming here he often was in a lot of pain. It actually was clear for me from the first glimpses of the movie in the video for Time of my Life that there's no way in h..ll he learned the dance routine just for the movie - just the way he is holding himself litteraly screams Dancer!
No one expected much from this movie but it was like a earthquake - I vividly remember staying in line for the tickets like every teenager multiple times ("only" 3times😅) - The line went out of the theater down the sidewalk nearly to the bus stop 😂
Sorry I didn’t enjoy your commentary, you were annoying and wrong about so much.
Thats ok. I didn't enjoy your comment lol