My issue is that my HR zones do not seem to match too closely to my Power zones. For example, if I want to do a mainly endurance ride outdoors, if I stay within my endurance power zones my heart rate will be 60% of the time at a recovery level. The only way to raise my HR is to go harder which then knocks me out of my endurance power zone. I have a low HR when training anyway, with a roughly 48bpm RHR and a MaxHR of about 176-178bpm.
Is it normal that to maintain my Z2 heart rate, I have to maintain Z3 power? My heart rate zone is always lower than my power zone. I've recently done a FTP test so I know the issue isn't that my power setting is too low
Does your lactate level not change with thr HR? So if your target is base volume, adoptations in z2. Won't it make more sense to stay in that lactate level to keep working that fat burning energy system
@@rejickmukherjee9154 same here, my PR z2 = around 130bpm (I set my hr zones by max and min hr), normally if I go by hr I would ride endurance round 140-148bpm. My PR zones are set freshly of a ramp test, where I also got to around my max hr (I've never went over 189hr in various trainings and tests, here I went up to 186). Idk if I should follow HR zones or PR zones
Great topic guys! But sometimes I face the opposite - as fatique rises my HR drops despite I try to push hard as I can. Maybe sugar intake would help..
Yeah. HR drop as ride progress may be caused by low blood sugar. It may also occur if you consumed meal too close to the workout and your body is still coping with digestion at the beginning of the ride (hence higher HR).
Excellent explanation! Thank you! So, during a 24 hour race you keep recruiting different muscle fiber types as each type fatigues. Is there any benefit to sprint and speed training for the endurance cyclist? My opinion through some experimentation with my training is yes. Is it correct to assume that as you train using sprint and max speed workouts you will get a benefit of recruiting even more muscle fibers as you fatigue?
Disagree. What matters in training is what your body is doing internally. A training plan should have goals to work specific areas of fitness. Letting heart rate rise blends the type of work your body is doing, and it is not a benefit, it is a highly variable departure from the goals of the workout.
I disagree with you and with them. You and too many others have this idea that high heart rate means you have to call an ambulance. As long as your RPE is still sustainable, cardiac drift during steady state power is not a reason to back off. This clip (and you) failed to mention the perceived exertion part of the equation.
My issue is that my HR zones do not seem to match too closely to my Power zones. For example, if I want to do a mainly endurance ride outdoors, if I stay within my endurance power zones my heart rate will be 60% of the time at a recovery level. The only way to raise my HR is to go harder which then knocks me out of my endurance power zone. I have a low HR when training anyway, with a roughly 48bpm RHR and a MaxHR of about 176-178bpm.
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Thanks dudes. Been the man who limits through heart rate. This is only the case on Base rides outdoors
Is it normal that to maintain my Z2 heart rate, I have to maintain Z3 power? My heart rate zone is always lower than my power zone. I've recently done a FTP test so I know the issue isn't that my power setting is too low
Does your lactate level not change with thr HR? So if your target is base volume, adoptations in z2. Won't it make more sense to stay in that lactate level to keep working that fat burning energy system
That would probably mean your Cardiovascularly more powerful than you muscularly are.
Also.. What method do you use to set HR zones
@@rejickmukherjee9154 same here, my PR z2 = around 130bpm (I set my hr zones by max and min hr), normally if I go by hr I would ride endurance round 140-148bpm. My PR zones are set freshly of a ramp test, where I also got to around my max hr (I've never went over 189hr in various trainings and tests, here I went up to 186). Idk if I should follow HR zones or PR zones
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Great topic guys! But sometimes I face the opposite - as fatique rises my HR drops despite I try to push hard as I can. Maybe sugar intake would help..
Yeah. HR drop as ride progress may be caused by low blood sugar. It may also occur if you consumed meal too close to the workout and your body is still coping with digestion at the beginning of the ride (hence higher HR).
Excellent explanation! Thank you! So, during a 24 hour race you keep recruiting different muscle fiber types as each type fatigues. Is there any benefit to sprint and speed training for the endurance cyclist? My opinion through some experimentation with my training is yes. Is it correct to assume that as you train using sprint and max speed workouts you will get a benefit of recruiting even more muscle fibers as you fatigue?
Disagree. What matters in training is what your body is doing internally. A training plan should have goals to work specific areas of fitness. Letting heart rate rise blends the type of work your body is doing, and it is not a benefit, it is a highly variable departure from the goals of the workout.
I disagree with you and with them.
You and too many others have this idea that high heart rate means you have to call an ambulance.
As long as your RPE is still sustainable, cardiac drift during steady state power is not a reason to back off.
This clip (and you) failed to mention the perceived exertion part of the equation.