The TRUTH about the Golden Calf few people know
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"A great leader, gets his greatness from the people, he is not greater than the people" - what an absolute profound statement.
As a woman that identifies Christian I love his speeches
Me too!
But is it true what he says? No way.
@@Esico6 Yes way. what he sais is true.
Discernment is something practiced by both Jews and Christians.
@@allonifrah3465 - Go read it for yourself, it is not true.
I am a Christian and have studied the Torah. I enjoy your talks it's very informative and opens up new inroads for me
A-holes like yourself usually end up alone. Sad. 😔
God knows everything. We are limited as humans. And for this quite naturally we have this sense of justice between brothers with brothers and sisters with sisters. Only God is limitless, He moves within His own limitations without disturbing the will of men.
Glory to God for All Things!
Thank you for you insightfulness of this issue. Always extremely interesting content
"It was the riff-raff" - priceless! 😄
@liskern9496 The hangers on!
I just don't understand why the hangers-on are not considered also as part of the group, since the very existence of the group led to the generation of those "attachments".@@michaelsmullen9891
Thank you Rabbi Manis may God give you long life and a bounty of blessings
Thank you for the depth of happenings.
Thank you Rabbi Friedman!!
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Thank you very much Rabbi for your wonderful inspiring teachings
Rabbi, I’ve never heard this story explained this way. Thank you for you insightfulness.
WOW
Skillful manipulator is Mr Friedman
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He is not skillful.
@@iosta5694 manipulate, like you do not
@@iosta5694Most of what Rabbi Friedman spoke of is from classic Jewish literature that was first transcribed 700 years ago.
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The scripture says AARON fashioned the calf with tools (Exodus 32:4) but when he was asked about it by Moses, he claimed the calf appeared (miraculously) after he threw the gold into the fire (Ex 32:24). It wasn't a "great multitude of sorcerers" who "used their magic" to make the calf, as the Rabbi said. That's not what the scripture says. It says Aaron made the calf himself, then claimed the calf appeared on its own. So Aaron himself fashioned the calf, then lied to Moses.
I was thing the same thing as he was saying that. I do also believe that some of the people of Egypt went with them. Powerful people try to stay in power. I'm sure they had influence in this great sin.
In a far removed English translation or original Hebrew or Aramaic text ?
There was/is the oral Torah as well handed down through the ages.
Right. I was saying the same thing
It says Aaron formed it
@@dwanbarnes8246Aaron formed it by receiving the Gold from their hands. They weren't just ethnic Egyptians, but a mixed multitude that were living in Egypt at the time, Egypt being a booming Metropolis at that time. In Hebrew they are known as the 'Erev Rav' which means 'Great Evening' which was the time that they practiced their divinations. There was a couple of the Pharos's magicians from Egypt that were vocalising the Incantation/spell while Aaron collected the gold from others. It says that Aaron received the Gold from their hands and that was his naivety for if they had put the Gold on the ground and Aaron then picked it up nothing would have happened as the spell would have been broken. So because he took the Gold from their hands the Golden Calf emerged from the fire. The Erev Rav are a problem for Israel to this day!
Thank you
That was intense. Thank you Rabbi for giving me so much to think about.
And while you are thinking about it - read it and get the real story.
Thanks Rabbi , love your videos ...
Thank you so much
Thanks rabbi🙏
Thank you, Rabbi.
I believe that choosing a Calf had a different reason, because the word עגיל (earring) is almost the same word as עגל (calf) in Hebrew, both words share the same root letters and also עיגול (a circle)..
So.. from their golden Earrings to a golden Calf to circle and dance..
At the end Moses came and broke their circle of dance then broke the calf to dust and scattered it on the water and made them drink...
The cycle of slavery was broken at that moment.
Finally, The chains of slavery were broken in spirit and in body and now they are ready for the covenant.
A golden calf represents the zodiac sign of Taurus. Earth element ... represented by pentacles. Meaning they were worshipping money. Money is not bad unless it's worshipped.
But why is there a narrative that it was because of Moses disobedience that he died and didn't enter the promised land?
@@lynetterowberry2 money is always evil
Satan trying to stop prophecy from being fullfilled ....but it failed
@@sarpiyapantong8342 that's when GOD told him to speak to the rock to produce water instead he struck it with the rod...there for he disobeyed GOD. It had nothing to do with the golden calf.. Read the Bible it tells you all the answers
Thank you Rabbi. Most excellent and truthful. Our Hashem is always helping, guiding, teaching, and patiently waiting
Thank you Rabbi…
Awesome! Thanks Rabbi
Thank you God bless you
Where in the Torah can i find “ these other people” that you speak about ie the riff raf?
What an excellent explanation!
Thank you, Rabbi
Shalom Rabbi
I heard a wise Christian once say..."If you wanna study the new testament of the bible, study with a Christian Pastor...If you wanna study the old testament bible, study with a Jewish Rabbi".
You have answered many questions I had about much of the confusion surrounding this amazing story.
Thank you. Rabbi Friedman! You are a blessing.
@chico...2349 are you suggesting that there are Jewish pastors...and Christian rabbis?
And if you do as the "wise" Christian said you will end up totally confused.
Makes sense, I was thinking the same thing.
A Christian pastor almost always preach from the New Testament, and a Rabbi studies, follows, and preaches from the Old Testament.
@@lolabrown863Rabbi's/Jews never preach only teach.
Wow never heard it like this. Thanks!
Honestly I'm very happy about this now bcz many times the message was misinterpreted.. thanks
Judaism could have been great.
But the reliance on texts outside the Torah itself to explain the Torah, suggests a few things. It suggests that persons may very well be making up and establishing their own interpretations.
We see the Torah stating that:
1. Aaron made a golden calf which the people accepted.
So If they wanted to replace Moses, why would they accept a molten image?
2. The Torah suggests that Aaron fashioned the calf with graving tools.
So where do you get the idea that the calf just appeared after Aaron threw the gold into the fire?
So my question is, since I'm assuming you will say God authorized the "commentaries" on the Torah:
Why is it that the commentaries suggests the opposite of what is written in the Torah (e.g. Aaron fashioning the calf vs the calf arising from the flames)?
God is not the author of confusion.
I guess it falls back onto the tradition of commentary itself. I don’t think the Torah is meant to confuse, since confusion comes from the expectation of static objectivity, but it brings many people together with different living subjective perspectives.
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Excellent idea...
But do we get that idea from reading the Bible (whether Torah or KJV)? No. We see a being who demonstrates abilities less than Omnipotence, Omnipresence and Omniscience simply demanding we bend to His will or else.
There is another source being the oral Torah.
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If by "another" source, you mean a source that tells a different story, it reinforces the idea that it's all a sham... why would the two accounts have discrepancies between them?
If by "another" source you mean another source with the same account, we are right back where we started.
Why do we keep seeing either inconsistencies with history or discrepancies between accounts?
Truth, is One.
@mrmurray382 I will answer your question with my question. When the Jews were forced by the Hellenistic Greeks to translate the Torah into Greek (by the way Hebrew translates into Greek very well) that the Jews didn't give them a different text especially as the Torah doesn't make Jews look that great. The stories of the Torah are just the outer garment of the Torah. The soul of the Torah is hidden the same as the soul of a person is hidden inside the body. But those that have eyes to see penetrate further. Jews have an unbroken chain of Oral tradition that goes all the way back to Mt Sinai and they know that if someone comes up with an interpretation, whether from the simple meaning of the text or from the most hidden levels and that if what they say or put down in writing is something that is untrue that soul will be flung down to Gehinnom. A high price to pay for letting your ego get the better of you!
Isn’t this véry good! Oh Rabbi! Thank you, Shalom. 🕊
I have gained insight through your ingauging explanation of the Torah.
Very interesting, Rabbi. Where in the Scriptures do we find authority for this interpretation? For example, Exodus 32 seems to me to be clear that Aaron had a very direct & active role in the creation of the golden calf. For example, in Ex. 32:4: “He [Aaron] took the gold from them, formed it in a mold, and cast an image of a calf;…”.
Also, I have never read about a large multitude of Egyptian elite accompanying the Israelites out of Egypt or that it was they alone who fashioned & worshipped the calf. Please cite your sources as I would love to read the source text, myself.
Many thanks.
Following.
Let me ask you this. Why did the people of Israel complained so much while traveling in the desert? And who were the ones complaining? Well Egyptians following us to the wilderness they weren’t used to the things they live in. So what is actually said is that there are certain groups of people that complain to God how it was better off in Egypt. And the people of Israel are joining to group to protest and they ask Moshe as well. The Egyptians saw Gods power and what he could do. So of course they would follow the Israelites with God because the Egyptians gods didn’t exist.
I get the idea. That’s easy enough to grasp. My wondering is that of authority for this interpretation, and the text that supports this interpretation.
All the fixing up to a story to make wrong look righteous…cause these people do no wrong…there’s always stories that make what they do wrong look right.
So called Group of EREV RAV
by the way source you can find in the Zohar there you can find more interesting information about the golden caff how far I know it was even talking and it will again happen in the end times after shutting down the altar in Jerusalem
At the beginning of your shiur: This is exactly the approach if you want to lift the veil even a little bit to understand the words of the Torah. Read the comments, note the grammar and the tenses. Thank you very much.
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You’re the best rabbi manis!!!!!!!!
Thank you for bringing me back… wow
Omg thank you!
I had never thought of the story like this.
“Religion is a daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable.” Ambrose Bierce -
I like his sense of humor!
Thank you rabbi
Items that popped into my mind, first, never heard that the calf wasn't formed with labor. Second, pondered the relationship between leader(s) and followers and how it affects behavior separately and as together. Third, I didn't realize that Egyptians were part of the crowd and that the spiritual battle was continuing. I thought that battle, not war, ended at the crossing. Finally, pondered connecting the narrative to our day, 08/2023. Where are we on the spectrum of being close to XXX and worshiping a golden calf? Which way are we moving?
@AlwaysHopeful87 They weren't just ethnic Egyptians, but a mixed multitude that were living in Egypt at the time, Egypt being a booming Metropolis at that time. In Hebrew they are known as the 'Erev Rav' which means 'Great Evening' which was the time that they practiced their divinations. There was a couple of the Pharos's magicians from Egypt that were vocalising the Incantation/spell while Aaron collected the gold from others. It says that Aaron received the Gold from their hands and that was his naivety for if they had put the Gold on the ground and Aaron then picked it up nothing would have happened as the spell would have been broken. So because he took the Gold from their hands the Golden Calf emerged from the fire. The Erev Rav are a problem for Israel to this day!
Thank you.
Aaron asked for the golden rings of 'your wives, sons and daughters.' He fashioned it with an engraving tool and made it a molten calf.
Maybe there were Egyptians among them but Aaron was the ring leader. (Ex 32:4)
He actually fashioned the calf unlike what the Rabbii is saying
My working theory was that someone buried a lost wax mold they carved out of wood in the fire pit, which somehow they tricked Aaron into throwing the gold on top of. Lessens the magic needed.
Question: didnt Moshe come with the commands after they made the calf? It's confusing...
Beutiful story
This is very interesting,when I was in Sunday school I always assumed the calf was human build and I didn't know some of the Egyptians came other then maybe Moses stepmother lol.but this is a new take on the story.thank you rabbi.
Non of us where ever taught this, we were all taught the same as you.
You need to read Bible Than u will get to know everything
Do any of you people ever check out what a Rabbi tells you?
If you did you would realise that you had just listened to another Jewish fairy tale.
In Exodus 32. You will find that the people (Israelites) demanded that Aaron make them "gods to go before them", that Aaron collected their gold and that he made them a golden calf and said "these be thy gods O Israel. Aaron then made an alter before it and declared a feast on the following day.
"Then "the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people (Israelites,) which thou brought out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt". (It tells you just the same in the Orthodox Jewish Bible.)
Although a "mixed multitude came out of Egypt with the Israelites there is no mention of them being involved - the Israelites demanded the golden calf, Aaron made it and the Israelites worshipped it.
@@msmith7472 In Judaism there is an unbroken chain of Master/Disciple going all the way back to Moses at Mt Sinai and many books have been written that detail that information throughout the whole of the 2,000 years of the diaspora. This knowledge was part of the original 'Oral Tradition.'
Well, if you read Exodus 32, it disagrees in some regard with the Rabbi's statement that the calf popped out of the fire (that was the excuse offered). They brought their gold to Aaron telling him to give them a god.
Verse 4: "He took this from their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool and made it into a molten calf; and they said 'This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt.' (5) Now when Aaron saw this, he built an altar before it..." So according to the text, Aaron made the calf and Aaron made an altar for the calf. Skipping ahead, when Moses comes back on the scene: verse 21: "Then Moses said to Aaron, 'What did this people do to you, that you have brought such great sin upon them?' (22) Aaron said, "Do not let the anger of my lord burn; you know the people yourself, that they are prone to evil. (23) For they said to me, 'Make a god for us who will go before us; for this Moses, the man who brought us up from the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.' (24) I said to them 'Whoever has any gold, let them tear it off.' So they gave it to me, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf."
So the story that it popped out of the fire as a calf, was Aaron's excuse, not what had really happened. God himself told Moses in verse 8: "They have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them. They have made for themselves a molten calf, and have worshiped it and have sacrificed to it and said 'This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt!'". God himself said that THEY MADE it.
I understand the Rabbi's point, but I will stand by the text.
As to why a calf? The Israelites came from Canaanite stock--if you doubt that, go read the story of Abraham--he clearly was in the region of Jerusalem, then called Salem, and was blessed by Melchizedek, priest-king of the city.
The polytheistic Canaanite pantheon included El, Ashura, YHWH, Ba'al, and others; and the figure of the bull was used extensively. This is known by archaeology. Clearly, the people were reverting to their polytheistic ways, worshiping a graven bovine figure; and Aaron was instrumental in making it so (likely, as the Rabbi points out, feeling that his life was in danger if he did not).
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About the Golden Calf and the relationship between Moshe and his people brings me to some thoughts. In Dewarim 1, 37 Moshe says:
גַּם־בִּי֙ הִתְאַנַּ֣ף יְהֹוָ֔ה בִּגְלַלְכֶ֖ם לֵאמֹ֑ר גַּם־אַתָּ֖ה לֹא־תָבֹ֥א שָֽׁם׃
…Because of you…
Has the „sin“ of the Golden Calf something to do with the decision of Hashem not let Moshe guide his people into the Land? What would have happened if Moshe had entered the land as its leader instead of Yehoshua?
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Thank you again! I am learning so much about the Old Testament and I am intrigued! ❤
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I was under the impression that Ahaaron ( bbhm)...was under duress cause the people built themselves up into a frenzy ...
Golden calf aside this is the first time I’ve understood why Moses destroyed the first set of tablets. Thanks Rabbi another great lesson.
You all do not know because you are not reading Bible
Rabbi, please go into the erev rav
Who are they today?
Maybe someone can offer some insight.
Every translation I've read says Aaron shaped it in to the shape of a calf.
Yes in Hawai’i my friend’s name was jezebel
And her single mother was named Lilith?
@@allonifrah3465 How unfortunate. I bet she led an interesting life.
so if Moses broke the contract was the contract reinstated? Why are the Ten Commandments so similar to the Laws of Maat?
At this point, right here tonight, this is the most profound shit I've heard in my entire fuckin life...
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MUCH RESPECT to Rabbi Manis Friedman for sharing with the world the Manifold Wisdom of God...
You all should rear Bible than you will understand
Order , and moral , on how to live to breathe , to see, to understand what the things around you are, the way they are ..!!??
Who is the Samiri?
Fine, Ill goto the zoom session, better not cost a million sheckles. Lol I am just kidding around but I really do want to speak to you personally.
Sapphire cubes! Mel Brooks had it wrong in the movie when he dropped the third tablet.😂
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...The ancient Egyptians, unlike the majority current occupiers were prosperous in agriculture along the River Nile due to the annual flood bringing rich soil from the highlands of Ethiopia.They were aware of cyclical drought that could occur & (sometimes lasts 7 years);and they were combatting the waste of yield by raising Cats(Cat Mummies found in 100K) - to control rats, in the farms and the graineries; doing so thus wisely control distribution from disrupting the society-[you see,- they have Pyramids to build and Monuments to erect for the here after...!!❤] ...Tribes from all over around Pharaoh's Egypt, to distant lands including the 12 Tribes of Israel were welcome to save their tribes from famine. While all these are happening, some tribes didn't t want to go back to where they come from while the getting was good - there by multiply, get to know how to work in Pharaohs Egypt system (Joseph).This knowledge made some "trusted" citizens, apparently enabling them to gain access to Pharaohs Gold Stock Pile (The Hitites' Kings were corresponding with the then Pharaohs saying"you have gold in abundance as the desert sand"..."why not get our daughters for your wives")...They were dreaming to get their hands on some of the gold by means of marriage! While all these happening, the Israelites in Ghoshen and around every area of ancient Egypt is having a conciderable visible demography increase and Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt and the population felt threatened of their way of life - Ancient Egyptian Abundant Life!? - At this point, you can see how the ancient Israelites could lay their hands on... Pharaohs' GOLD BEFORE THEIR EXILE TO SAINAI DESERT!...there you have it rabae!😏😎😎🙂🙂
The same problem happened when unbelieving "strangers" joined the pilgrims on the Mayflower. They ended up causing problems. Happened in Pennsylvania too.
Lol the pilgrims coming on the mayflower was a part of American history, not he Bible. Stop romantizicing America as Gods country, cause every country is God's Country.
Seriously my answer works
I'm stunned by the complexity of this story that I've only heard preached with meaningless simplicity. It's shocking to hear such a CALM and INTELLIGENT explanation, after hearing preacher-yelling "Jews were so disobedient" because they are evil TROPES. Gosh, I never knew Egyptians were in the mix. My Jewish Grandpa was right. Christmas Tree People are quite Silly and Lacking.
You are easily fooled.
@@Esico6 What Denomination are you?
@@Esico6 Declare your loyalty to your DENOMINATION
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(20:85) He said, "Well, listen! We put your people to a trial after you and the Samiri *63 has misled them. "
Tafheem-ul-Quran by Syed Abu-al-A'la Maududi
*63) It is obvious from the last letter `ya' that Samiri was not the proper name of the person, for this Arabic letter is always added to show a person's connection with his race or clan or place. Moreover, the prefix `al' (definite article 'the') in the original Arabic text clearly denotes that the Samiri was a particular man from among many other persons of the same race or clan or place, who had propagated (he worship of the golden calf. In fact, this does not require any further explanation than this, but this has been necessitated because many Christian missionaries and the Western Orientalists have tried to criticise the Holy Prophet and the Qur'an on this account. They say, (God forbid,) "This is a proof of the grievous ignorance of history on the part of Muhammad, the author of the Qur'an, and is one of the anachronisms of the Qur'an." They base this absurd criticism on the assumption that this Samiri was the inhabitant of Samaria, the capital of the ancient kingdom of Israel, which was built in 925 B.C. long after this happening; then centuries after this, a generation of the Samaritans came into existence as a result of inter-marriage between the Israelites and the non-Israelites. As the Samaritans worshipped the golden calf, the critics accuse the Holy Prophet of inventing this story on the basis of mere hearsay. They say that the Holy Prophet might have heard something like this from the neighbouring Jews and inserted it in the Qur'an. This is not all. They also criticise that Haman who was a courtier of Cyrus has been mentioned in the Qur'an as a minister of Pharaoh. It is a pity that these so-called scholars seem to think that in the ancient times there used to be only one person bearing one name in a clan or a place, and there was absolutely no possibility of another person or persons having the same name. They do not know, or pretend they do not know, that during the time of Prophet Abraham, a famous people known as the Sumerians inhabited 'Iraq and the neighbouring regions, and it is just possible that during the time of Prophet Moses there were some people known as the Samiris who might have migrated to Egypt from 'Iraq. Besides this, according to the Bible (1 Kings, 16: 24), Samaria itself was built on a hill which was bought from Shemer and named Samaria after him. This is a clear proof that there were people named Shemer (or Sumer) even before Samaria came into existence and it is also just possible that some clans might have been called "Samiri"
If you are good humored about yourself and laugh at at our feeble attempts to wisdom, you'll always be in a good mood.
I’ve always wondered why people would name their Baby, Arron. Knowing that he was was responsible for the false God image of the calf. Just to try and prove my point…… have you ever met anyone who’s parents named their daughter Jezebel? I’m in my 60’s and have never met anyone with Jezebel for a name. However I’ve met many Arron’s.
Good topic to unpack
Oh, with all due respect Rabbi, the Jews did make another golden Calf again, having leaned absolutely nothing from their history. It was during the Reign of Jerobaum in the northern kingdom after the split up, when Solomon died! How do you explain that double insanity? Furthermore, Why didn’t Aaron just casually & calmly without debate tell them to adjust their clocks. They are only a half day off! That is not an intolerable amount of time. He could have explained their mistake like you did and they would test his sincerity by waiting another half day before attempting to kill him?
Aaron was not responsible for golden calf.
Listening and processing information is very crucial. Listening to the lecture more than once .
Dynamics of human behavior while emotional is explained. One needs to learn from this event.
What is your views on he Calf story in the Quran. Where Moses asked his people to kill in thousand who worshiped cow, and brought commandment “ though shall not kill ,,,,,,,,
The riff raff of the milky calf 😇
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Did the gold from the calf get used on the Arc of the Covenant
Nope read verse 20 of chapter 32 and u will find out that moshe is a gangster. God had moshe tell the people to destroy the idol and grind it into dust and eat it
I wonder what ingesting gold does to one?
@@Mudguaard Monoatomic gold is a term used to describe a specific group of elements that were discovered in the late 1970s by an Arizona farmer named David Hudson1. These metals do not have the metallic properties that are typically associated with those elements. In their monoatomic form, the electrons are re-arranged so that they avoid any chemical reactions2. Monoatomic gold is also referred to as ORME (Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elemental forms)1. It is claimed to have amazing benefits for physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health, promoting brain coherence, mental clarity and increased level of awareness2. However, there is no scientific evidence to support these claims and the concept of monoatomic gold is often associated with mysticism and conspiracy theories
Idolatry and adultery so similar in pronunciation and both have deadly Consequences!!!! Praise be to the one true God
Exodus 32:4
32 When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods[a] who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.”
2 Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4 He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods,[b] Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”
I enjoy the Rabbi, and some of this interpretation of the story makes a certain kind of sense, but it also feels like it's trying to speculatively fill in missing info from the bible, and that's personally rather sketchy for me. Also it rather comes across as dismissive or defensive of the jewish people from back then. Even still, disregarding that...to say the golden calf never happened again? That's simply not true, unless the events in the books of kings and the books of chronicles are inaccurate or otherwise unreliable. As I seem to recall after the Jewish civil war they made a whole new separate temple and TWO golden calfs alongside the "these are your gods o Israel" statement. Is Rabbi suggesting that didn't happen? Or that it wasn't the same thing because it wasn't created by Egyptian sorcery?
@thegrimharvest The Torah is in the 'Short Form' there being an Oral Tradition that accompanied it. That's what Jews know that you guys don't and it has taken till this generation for you to receive it because of persecution and the oppression from the church. There were some times a long time ago in Andalucía that Jews, Muslims and Christians learned together. According to the Torah, Jeroboam, the first king of the northern kingdom of Israel after the split of the united kingdom of Israel, set up two golden calves as idols for worship in the cities of Bethel and Dan. This event is described in 1 Kings 12:29, where it is written: "One calf he set up in Bethel, and the other in Dan". Jeroboam’s decision to set up these idols was likely an attempt to prevent his subjects from traveling to Jerusalem, which was located in the southern kingdom of Judah, to worship at the temple there. Therefore this sin was done by a wicked king of the Northern Kingdom and not done by Jews(Tribe of Yehuda). It was because of this that the Ten Tribes were exiled by Assyria and are only just waking up to themselves.
Recommend one plays at x 2 speed so you don't fall asleep.
Thanks Friedman..I appreciate very much your sapiens knowledge in our traditions..
I would think that mixed company it could not be a mixed race company?
I mean Israel and Egypt blood mixed then This violation would bring spiritual transference..?
I think it was demonic spiritual transference ..
The same way it happens with the the report over the Israel..
I would like you to touch these theme ( spiritual transference)
Husband and wife.
Kurios and doulos
Between friends..
Boss and workers..etc
I really appreciate your teachings..
Who's listening ? Why?
Ok wait there is a issue.
So some of the egyptians having went with the rest of the isrealites, plus them probably not knowing much about them ( due to being slaves and such) how did they know about joseph and the animal symbols to know to choose a calf??
So it says in the torah some of the egyptioans went with the isrealites with moses as well??
In Egyptology the people use to believe that the first pharaoh came from a calf or something like that. So they used a calf
Sometimes these stories read like God but sometimes read like Aliens 👽 and humans are either like equals and sometimes like pets and sometimes like it is ourselves and I think we are at the brink of finding out who created us and the balance is tipping …with Christianity and Islam as also guides somehow .. it’s the biggest story ever made but if for some whatever reason anything is true at least we existed for a short period of time .. at least we lived and tried , most , because we did tried otherwise there would be no kind of civilization at all more like pets running around wild we are not like that idk 🤷♂️ all this studying religions and faiths has clutter my 🧠 but at least I tried so for whatever is worth here I go .. I was chosen .. see y’all on judgement day Goodluck and God Bless
" Shall we get Water out of this Rock for you Rebels ? "
In the voice of Muary- You said at the beginning of this show that the Egyptians made the calf with magic. Exodus 32:4 determined that was a lie.
Maybe when they put the gold into the fire and it melted it just looked like a calf when it solidified? I can imagine solidified metal looking like an animal.
These were Egyptian sorcerers. Of the type that presented serpents.
@@davidmillward3108 19They made a calf at Horeb ♦
and worshipped the molten image.
That's from Psalm 106
Sounds like a fantasy novel based on the famous golden calf story.
The most sad thing you say is that: luckily there was no idolatry with a golden calf anymore. No indeed, BUT MANY other idolatry cases followed (unfortunately).
Scripture did not pen your assumptions in your version of that scripture .Scripture also says we're NOT allowed to add or take away from the scriptures or call any man Rabbi ,for we have but one.
So why does the Red Heifer’s ashes become a requirement in todays Jewish ceremony for the temple?could this have some left over influence from the Egyptian sorcerers who were among the Jews?
@franklix The ashes are to purify a person from the impurity of being next to someone dead and that includes cemeteries. That is why Kohanim(Jewish Priests) don't attend burials as it would disqualify them from temple service and the ability to transmit the priestly blessing.
That's wild how Jews read it to protect Aaron
It was the Levites who made the calf, that's why Moses was pissed at them when he came down from the mount
Levites were possibly the worst out of the bunch
Hard truth to swallow
I will always and forever be perplexed with God not already knowing this? Doesn’t God know everything? Why did he get angry that they made a golden calf?… Didn’t God already know this would happen? I’m so perplexed that some things God just don’t know.😢😢😢
@franklix Of course he knew, but the narrative is from our perspective.
The Egyptian magician Sambri built that calf telling people that it was their new god while Moses was away for 40 days.. the calf was placed at a certain place when the wind blew it would make some whistling noise. They believed it was their new god.
Why a red heifer?
I'm in the process of converting to Judaism. I certainly am not very knowledgeable but I do remember reading once that a red heifer was an Egyptian deity. I could be wrong. I must look it up
I thought it was bull worship because the Sun was in ♉️ Tauras