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    Starting with an example, let’s say that Kesshav is an employee working for any of the popular IT service companies like TCS, Wipro, and Infosys. He has a client call right now. The client is talking to him in a rude tone, telling him that some pending work should have been completed 2 days ago. This IT employee life tells you why IT jobs are stressful. IT employees are not treated well by the clients. The client will then tell Keshav to talk after the standup as it is not good to waste other’s time.
    Before diving into why everybody hates IT jobs and nobody wants to stay in the IT job long-term, we need to understand the root cause of this issue. The issue begins when Wipro, TCS, and CTS of the world start talking to the client for the first time. They will go to the clients and tell them that they have 5000-6000 people in their India office and that they are very talented and efficient. On top of it, they tell the clients that these employees are cheap resources. Yes, this is exactly what they tell their clients.
    They tell the clients that these employees are just their support staff. When the client starts off at this note, many problems show up. The first such problem is the excessive work hours. What is the IT workers life like? What happens during the typical day in the life of an IT employee? They start their day at 9 PM or 10 M=PM with a standup call with their onsite team. This call is about what they did up until now. What progress is made and so on. The call goes on from there to upto 11 PM if the team is based out of SF area or somewhere else in the USA.
    Even post 11 PM, these calls may continue like what Keshav had faced. Then they have to log back in at 8:30 AM, to see what the client has to say. On top of this, TCS, Infosys, and Wipro are now asking employees to come to the office. Now you see, you have to start working at the regular time and stay in the office for long and after that get How many hours are you working this way? Definitely more than 70 hours a week. The next problem is related to communication issues.
    The client may think that since these people are cheap resources, any issues they face can wait. If the client faces any issues, he will call these folks up and tell them to do the job immediately. In this way there is a huge mismatch in the expectations from the employees and the treatment given to them by the clients. Because of this, the client starts thinking that they are God. Sometimes, the IT service employees are much more intelligent than the client-side developers. But even then they are asked by their managers to shut up and say nothing that would offend the client. Because of this, the tone of communication becomes very rude and it shows a lack of professionalism.
    Employees do not get access to many things that they need to start working. I myself faced such issues at Accenture.
    The solution to these problems can be pretty simple. As a client the IT service client should know that the tables may turn and one day they may go back to working for a service based company. You should treat others the way you want to be treated. As an employee working in a service based company, you should try to lookout for opportunities to move to a product based company. Break the chain the unfair reactions. After this, just look out for another oppourtunity and don’t stress yourself.
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:32 - Root Cause
    1:19 - #1 Excessive Work Hours
    2:42 - #2 Communication Issues
    3:22 - #3 Client Superiority
    4:19 - #4 Lack of Professionalism
    5:25 - Solutions
    7:18 - Outro
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  • @vizanalyst
    @vizanalyst 7 месяцев назад +204

    I think clients are relatively less rude than our own managers or leaders.

    • @avikbhattacharya8287
      @avikbhattacharya8287 6 месяцев назад +4

      true

    • @bichitranandamalik7913
      @bichitranandamalik7913 6 месяцев назад +14

      Because clients not telling you directly.client telling to your manager

    • @shaitansingh3717
      @shaitansingh3717 6 месяцев назад +5

      Absolutely brother, Indian managers think they are dictators in office but when you show you're capable of break their jaw they understand their limit and try to engage with you. Don't know how it works in South but in Gujarat I use it

    • @mirocarrijo4315
      @mirocarrijo4315 5 месяцев назад

      😊

    • @divinesoul1313
      @divinesoul1313 4 месяца назад

      right

  • @minku2008
    @minku2008 7 месяцев назад +443

    I have 18 years of experience in an Indian IT Company ,what I am seeing today in IT industry is some selfish souls fighting for their survival ,all are in a rush to save their job due to some insecurity feeling or whatever and in the rat race they play all kind of politics and never appreciate other people’s good works and if they see someone is good then will try everything against him making him leave the job and go -We should understand one thing in life -“Blowing out someone else's candle won't make yours shine any brighter”.Be empathetic ,keep on learning ,Crux is learning the latest technologies ,spend time with family and friends and give priorities to yourself because in your job you can be replaceable anytime !Its Life that matters ❤and it’s short .

    • @Dkumar-fh3vd
      @Dkumar-fh3vd 7 месяцев назад +27

      Now I feel, these IT Companies killing Talents in India by demotivating them.

    • @vibha3776
      @vibha3776 7 месяцев назад +4

      100% true

    • @raajac2720
      @raajac2720 7 месяцев назад +7

      Many are not interested learn or updates their skills feel the pressure ,harm to others.

    • @IrkyMan
      @IrkyMan 7 месяцев назад +13

      When you work for a job & at the same time learning new technologies as you advised, when will you give time for friends and family?

    • @RahulKashyap-ij9re
      @RahulKashyap-ij9re 7 месяцев назад

      Hi I am a college student and curious to know how is the industry from 5 years from now as per your experience?

  • @warriorx86
    @warriorx86 6 месяцев назад +36

    I have 14 years IT exp. Its the Indian origin client manager who are always harsh & rude. Whereas US UK ppl will always speak with professionalism inspite of adverse situation.

    • @ds3349
      @ds3349 6 месяцев назад

      Realise that a company such as Google also started firing people only after getting an Indian CEO

    • @neo3823
      @neo3823 2 месяца назад +1

      Ram rajya Castism culture 😢

    • @omshinde5653
      @omshinde5653 11 дней назад

      ​@@neo3823so ja bhai

  • @PracheeKorday
    @PracheeKorday 7 месяцев назад +66

    Moral of the story: Do NOT take escalations seriously... 😂😂😂

    • @sibanjanpurkayastha1953
      @sibanjanpurkayastha1953 4 месяца назад +1

      FIR thodi hai? 😂

    • @Blue.star1
      @Blue.star1 2 месяца назад +1

      Moral of the story : They are Key Pushers , not high tech , only business sw, bpo

  • @phani10
    @phani10 7 месяцев назад +96

    cheap labour + cheap consulting + Cheap pyramid governance + Cheap work culture...list goes on and on

    • @chaitanyavoolapalli1731
      @chaitanyavoolapalli1731 7 месяцев назад

      There is no bonded labour in this country. Why don't I see 1% if those complain start their own venture and run it the way they expect others to run🤔🤔?

    • @nou4605
      @nou4605 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@chaitanyavoolapalli1731Average victim blaming bootlicker Indian mentality.

    • @ANKIT-vd3ng
      @ANKIT-vd3ng 7 месяцев назад +1

      And yet narayanmurty wants us to work 70 hours a week so that the labour becomes more cheap and attracts more clients 😂

    • @VikashSingh-vp6zl
      @VikashSingh-vp6zl 7 месяцев назад

      Cheap work culture😂 zabardast tha guru

  • @therenaissanceman441
    @therenaissanceman441 7 месяцев назад +38

    I worked for 16 years and my current package is still less than a fresher in the US.

  • @jasonbourne1234
    @jasonbourne1234 7 месяцев назад +61

    You are absolutely right Pawan. Also I think the problem here is in our country there're plenty of IT engineers, if one leaves, atleast 10 people or more will be ready to take the job. High availability of IT engineers from India who are agree to work on low salaries and ready to work 16-18 hours per day, even on weekends. If people start saying NO, reject offers from such cheap employers only then they will realize what is the value of an engineer. Indians ditching fellow Indians. Also people have their own financial and career circumstances. Bank loans, Emi, family, kids everything needs money. What should one do?

    • @padhysatya
      @padhysatya 6 месяцев назад +6

      At first all engineers need to learn some amount of financial management, then they need not to bind themself to loans and EMI and company wont be able to play with them. Actually after getting a high CTC in initial stage of career , they try to elevate their life style by forgetting the simplicity.

    • @sarkandawale
      @sarkandawale 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@padhysatya where can we learn it

  • @raviprabhu4130
    @raviprabhu4130 7 месяцев назад +84

    Very well put. Client superiority and management of service company forcing employee to keep client happy, the employees of service company need to behave like "peoples of Red light area in Bombay for 24X7"

    • @EmpoweringPerson
      @EmpoweringPerson 7 месяцев назад +3

      Agree. Which company do you work? I would avoid that organisation.

    • @raghavsridhar
      @raghavsridhar 7 месяцев назад +1

      100% correct

    • @dj10109
      @dj10109 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​​​@@EmpoweringPerson All service based companies are same in this matter.😢

  • @veer5827
    @veer5827 7 месяцев назад +143

    It happens when client is from india staying in USA ..if client is US nationality one can enjoy the work..no stress at all

    • @guptasagar694
      @guptasagar694 7 месяцев назад +5

      Absolutely True

    • @dj10109
      @dj10109 7 месяцев назад +9

      Correct, my client is indian and he is like he can put call whenever he wants according to his preference and we are forced from our organisation to make them happy by attending calls and making docs for them and doing whatever they say to do.

    • @NamiChandra
      @NamiChandra 7 месяцев назад +18

      This happened with me as well I joined a US based startup founded by Indian folks hoping to see a great environment...
      But very soon I realised i have landed into a toxic bait!!! The toxic work culture, abusive manager ( he was an Indian and ironically he was the one who referred me there just for the greed of referral bonus) had screwed up my peace of mind...
      When I finally came out and spoke about it I was laid off the next month and that too without any notice or severance!!!
      I am glad I got laid off !!!!at least I got out from there😊

    • @AmalDevYT
      @AmalDevYT 7 месяцев назад +3

      Same in case of indians from Australia

    • @sauravchopra6330
      @sauravchopra6330 7 месяцев назад

      Agree

  • @thehybridtech3260
    @thehybridtech3260 7 месяцев назад +21

    I'm glad rest of you are opening up. This has to be serious issues to discuss on if one want to achieve something in corporate. Especially for newbies coming directly from colleges should aware about such issues 😕.

  • @balajivengateshmurugesan6403
    @balajivengateshmurugesan6403 7 месяцев назад +58

    Very Well said. The problems is not just how the clients see them. These people internally see themselves as coolies or beggars and never try to improve themselves. I left one of the companies to a product company for similar reasons. After this I never accepted opportunities from Consulting companies as I thought it might bring the same atmosphere.

  • @Hymareddyb
    @Hymareddyb 4 месяца назад +9

    Yar, don't take any loans. Buy resale car in 5L. Stay in rented apartment. Keep all the salary in account itself. Where ever and whenever you feel someone is disrespecting, and treating you as slave, not letting you to work stressfree , leave the job or place immediately. Dont stuck in own house or permanent jobs . Be flexible. Live your life. Don't encourage any bad behaviour of any body. Be very kind to everyone. Spread it. Happy freedom 🎊
    To all the young men, understand that corporate companies are eating you young life and energy, banks are trapping you with credits and loans. Society is eating you with abnormal expectations like burdening with unmatched partner and kids. As soon as you turn 45, no one wants you.

    • @siddarts
      @siddarts Месяц назад

      Well said 👏

  • @garimagupta1858
    @garimagupta1858 7 месяцев назад +8

    So relatable video, Pavan! Thank you so much for the solution part

  • @pratikvyas3384
    @pratikvyas3384 7 месяцев назад +29

    The key is to be very skilled and have almost 2 years of emergency fund . That will give us ego and confidence and the satisfaction of living a healthy life

    • @AmalDevYT
      @AmalDevYT 7 месяцев назад

      2 years emergency fund😢

    • @pratikvyas3384
      @pratikvyas3384 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@AmalDevYT it is possible if you’re in IT with 4 to 5 years of experience

    • @vijayanand9863
      @vijayanand9863 7 месяцев назад +3

      Absolutely right. With money support cones self confidence, which again will help to face issues calmly. But question is having 2 years of financial independence, especially when you are married and have commitments like loans etc.

    • @pratikvyas3384
      @pratikvyas3384 7 месяцев назад

      @@vijayanand9863 yes that’s the issue but controlling small desires for 1 to 3 years can help us. Also it is good to go for second source of income. It can be shares trading or teaching or RUclips or just another part time job.

    • @IrkyMan
      @IrkyMan 7 месяцев назад

      ​@vijayanand9863 what loan you have? Why did you buy car?

  • @samirbhalerao5579
    @samirbhalerao5579 7 месяцев назад +54

    💯 % agree with the observations in this video by Pavan. I also had faced similar injustice in a IT company.
    For a process there was a rule that if XYZ problem came, than it was to be accelerated as critical to support team and they were supposed to solve it in one hour. For us in India even on Christmas 25 Dec we had to work though Europe team got an holiday .Unfortunately that day the XYZ problem came and we accelerated via email as critical to support team as per the defined process..
    Can you guess when they attended to this? On 2nd Jan. Yes... They were supposed to solve it in an hour but it took them at least seven days before anyone at Europe was on duty.
    No action was taken on anyone there though live platform on real time was adversely affected. Neither did our Indian management did anything.
    Now just imagine if this would have happened in Indian hub, than by the 7th day how many indian employees would HR had fired?
    This injustice needs to go. People in India need to speak with courage. I did on more than one such situation, though no one supported. Still I would raise my voice on any such future situations.

    • @nihalpai7241
      @nihalpai7241 7 месяцев назад +1

      North America & India is the same nowadays for work. Europe is a heaven.

    • @AlphaCentauri2
      @AlphaCentauri2 7 месяцев назад

      @@nihalpai7241how ? do one need overwork in usa too and maybe sometimes on weekend? At least there they might be getting overtime pay

    • @AlphaCentauri2
      @AlphaCentauri2 7 месяцев назад +1

      I am in service-based company, with europeon client, developement-cum-maintainance project; Though the project is descent, not very good nor that bad. We also have WFH-WFO hybrid env. But I feel team is very less interactive, not helpful that much, getting reply of sr. dev takes hours, in initial training we got some docs and few live videos, but not that good ... now coming to working 20% dev work, 80% maitainance work like fixing/rewriting code with better algo, analysing logs to understand bug etc. , and no one in our side teams know or understand whole project architecture fully, and various different features of it, many times we just need to check project internal docs, many things are not found there, we keep looking for days, and side by side team lead will say, wwhy nothing is happening, even though lot of work is going on; then our team lead will not directly threaten, instead indirecty she will say that last time you got very good rating, I want you to work hard and get that rating this time also (indirectly threatening of giving bad rating) .... coming to client , only POs (Product owners) meet customer daily, we only meet sometimes or chat them, but on christmas they go on 2 weeks vacation as well as on mid-summer eve (their festival), but we don't get such long vacation in any festival;; on friday, client said that he is already preparing for weekend, so will not check much things now, but we fear to say that (when TL asked me to work on saturday as well);; though i feel europeon clients never forced us, only our managers or onsite people do ... timings are ok, bcs I drop by right time or max 2 hours over work, few folks still keep working idk why ; my team does not seem that passionate like my old team during internship at product-based company (I got its ppo too, which I did not accepted doing huge mistake by choosing service company)

    • @samirbhalerao5579
      @samirbhalerao5579 7 месяцев назад

      @@AlphaCentauri2 and these foreigners are smart. In one IT firm, they used to ask the Indian hub to give a written commitment three months before Christmas as to who would be available for full time work between 25 Dec to 2nd Jan.

    • @AlphaCentauri2
      @AlphaCentauri2 7 месяцев назад

      @@samirbhalerao5579i don't know about that, bcs this info do not reach us .... How do you get this info... though we are getting getting 1 day holiday on x-mas, but not 1-week like europeon client

  • @sprsd3
    @sprsd3 7 месяцев назад +35

    Very well conveyed the challenges. This story is not limited to IT Services but also to the IT product companies setting shop in India. Perspective of Indian workforce has become of that a "sweat shop" in the minds of clients especially from the west. I blame the Indian management to constantly put us in that spot. Only objective of these companies is to get good billing and make more profits.

    • @prafullakumar9557
      @prafullakumar9557 7 месяцев назад

      True. The situation is the same in product based companies in India.

    • @nimbupaani6335
      @nimbupaani6335 6 месяцев назад +5

      Its not their problem, its the problem with us, many IT service company have just mediocre average employees, thats why they hire robots, thats why they have criteria like no gaps in education or job, 60% in all semesters etc. because they want robots who can follow the system, but Generation Z are changing, they are not like 90s kids.

    • @gv6560
      @gv6560 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@nimbupaani6335IT Based Human Robots 😂😂😂😂

  • @darshantawte7435
    @darshantawte7435 7 месяцев назад +81

    Yeah i left 1 week back for the same reason. Even the senior engineers and project leads are working just for saving their jobs, no appreciation for creativity or new approach for solving the problem. What i have learned is 'You Are Responsible For Your Own Suffering'. If things don't work out leave that shit. Service sector is good for nothing, i would rather stay unemployed than work there as a fresher.

    • @user-my7eg3dy3f
      @user-my7eg3dy3f 7 месяцев назад +11

      I want to get out of this awful position as soon as possible. The true issue, though, is that I can't seem to find a clear way out of this situation. As things are right now, I fear that I will be locked here forever. Despite being alone, I have no alternative sources of money or places to go. The trade-off appears unfeasible and worse.

    • @thehybridtech3260
      @thehybridtech3260 7 месяцев назад +5

      Being in a service based company made me totally disappear from Earth. I too left that job and started to earn skill credentials to work independently.

    • @Travel_Junkie007
      @Travel_Junkie007 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-my7eg3dy3fwhich company you are working for

    • @idiot8779
      @idiot8779 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-my7eg3dy3f start giving interview bro, activate ur job profile, as soon u find new job ressign bro

    • @idiot8779
      @idiot8779 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@thehybridtech3260disapeer from earth means?

  • @sirishmajumdar
    @sirishmajumdar 7 месяцев назад +8

    Very well explained. I have worked in service CMP, startup as well as product CMP. You are absolutely correct on the cons of working in service CMP and most of the talented people I have seen get frustrated because of abusive behaviour and micromanagement in spite of having good knowledge and skills.

  • @gomathysankar5666
    @gomathysankar5666 7 месяцев назад +18

    I left Infosys not because of client but because of managers and sub managers did what you said in this video.

    • @dasabhd
      @dasabhd 7 месяцев назад +1

      I am in Infosys and I am facing the same, we are working overnight where client is billed for night allowance but were not given any allowances as such

  • @darkpenink6730
    @darkpenink6730 7 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks. Idk if this heals, but it feels that there is someone who understands the situation.
    I will keep the solutions in mind.
    Thanks. You are helping in calming the mental space also. Means a lot.

  • @film-masti-777
    @film-masti-777 7 месяцев назад +27

    I had a friend going through same issues in one of top 3 Indian service based companies. Project deliveries were very time bounded for him, no clarity on requirement. plus, a lady manager with no IT knowledge, constantly pressuring the team to deliver without listening to the team, without doing anything on ground.
    My friend who came from a very good US project with good work culture when tried to take initiatives to solve the problems, it hurt her ego. He was severely scolded, lectured on.
    After 1 month he found an offer outside & left company after another 3 months. by the time he left the company, the project was scrapped from the IT company & it paid a heavy fine as per contract for not being able to meet deadlines.

  • @Maxsupermax1
    @Maxsupermax1 7 месяцев назад +13

    I switched job from a startup to Exl which is a considered as a good company in data domain. Initially i was very happy as it was technically my first job i was working as an intern in the previous company. Happiness didn’t last long as i found that the senior manager was basically a bully and there were no considerations of professionalism. Everyday it was like somebody is looking down the barrel of his gun . Rudeness, gaslighting was on top. Everyone in the team was just checking on their part as they didn’t wanna get dragged into a conflicting situation. The onslaught lasted for 5 months now i had quit the job.

  • @impsam21
    @impsam21 7 месяцев назад +13

    Great topic. I have seen this kind of a situation play out. Thankfully haven't been at the receiving end of it. Thanks to my first PM who had a simple statement, "you do quality work and I will take care if any trouble that comes you way". He blessed me with a psychological safety such that I learned to say no and bot suffer fools. Today, I strive to provide the same to my teams. Be good, be smart and don't suffer fools.

  • @Crimzin8
    @Crimzin8 7 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for this. I had a similar experience at a previous consulting job and it was a huge mental health drain.

  • @quackstk6418
    @quackstk6418 7 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant video, I felt like you are narrating my career history. Great job done...!

  • @ankitlodha2203
    @ankitlodha2203 7 месяцев назад +13

    This used to happen with me in reputed organizations like BOFA, where people from Onsite team used to shout directly without knowing the issue....and our managers never used to help it.

  • @BehappyTamilan
    @BehappyTamilan 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great insights and spot on.

  • @drakeshpani
    @drakeshpani 7 месяцев назад +6

    Is this something positive vlog?? Coz nowadays many vloggers used to scare and make people's insecure about IT jobs. But inreality they arw all well settled in their jobs or earned so much, retired now and lecturing people. Noone wants to say positive things in it and motive them.

  • @i_soumyabanerjee
    @i_soumyabanerjee 7 месяцев назад +4

    Well said!! Totally agree! Our Indian it company managers and leadership has no foresight. All they want is do factory work.

  • @jasmeet_yaar
    @jasmeet_yaar 7 месяцев назад +18

    We all have been through these struggles in the initial phases of working in Service Industry. But, I learnt a lesson from it, intead of replicating what was done to me by management in my 12 years of experience. I have always tried to reciprocate the cons, for my team and making sure they have a healthy environment. Its very simple before saying yes or no, just weigh in your team's current situation. Clients always understand if we want to make them. If one is given a higher role, it should be used like a leader, even though if it comes with consequences. Always be remembered for good.

  • @scoobydoobydoo9561
    @scoobydoobydoo9561 7 месяцев назад +7

    I recognized this issue long ago. I have 10 years of experience and worked in 5 top MNCs, got A and B ratings, retention bonus etc, still I focused on my salary increase and always moved ahead. I am on my way to joining next company and also preparing for product based company as well.

  • @gangadharkaranapu9062
    @gangadharkaranapu9062 7 месяцев назад +1

    True man. Nice Explanation

  • @blankswiftiegaming8998
    @blankswiftiegaming8998 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you needed this❤

  • @GS-er8ms
    @GS-er8ms 7 месяцев назад +32

    Indian corporate set up is exhausting! What people achieve easily in 4-5 yrs of their career working in US or UK , it takes 12-15 years of slogging in India to achieve the same, without any personal life and family time , unfortunately not everyone is able to survive in this brutal atmosphere, specially the good people with self respect. Keep your spine and self respect at home once you enter the corporate setup because people here are spineless and shameless and yes “Nobody is your friend “

    • @pratikvyas3384
      @pratikvyas3384 7 месяцев назад +3

      Seriously I’m just done and planning to move to different country once I have good 💰

    • @TheFourthWinchester
      @TheFourthWinchester 7 месяцев назад

      What Indian IT employees earn in 10 years will take 40-50 years in most other white collar jobs. Perspective matters. IT employees are some of the most pig headed people with no talent in our country.

  • @afcfan9310
    @afcfan9310 7 месяцев назад +10

    Any corporate job in general, is basically modern day slavery. I’ve worked 20 years in some of our biggest MNC’s in the country. It’s best to find an alternate source of income and be independent, for instance I have started trading the stock market and see myself quitting my regular job in about a year and making 5-10 times more money. There are a hundred ways to make money, people just need to gain knowledge, skills, and be open to trying new things instead of being stuck in a secure but dead-end job.

    • @gokuvegeta9500
      @gokuvegeta9500 7 месяцев назад

      Any ideas?

    • @bharatparmar8430
      @bharatparmar8430 5 месяцев назад +2

      I think starting to make fast food at home and selling platforms like Zomato aur swiggy..is much better than IT job because I make sandwiches and sell online I make more than 80k a month in ahemdabad..

  • @honchoabhi
    @honchoabhi 7 месяцев назад +4

    Very well put!

  • @TapanMandal-wu1sv
    @TapanMandal-wu1sv 7 месяцев назад +2

    Love you man, hats off to you

  • @raghuvalab
    @raghuvalab 6 месяцев назад

    Very well articulated each and every point.

  • @deep1295
    @deep1295 7 месяцев назад +13

    Well said Pavan, I started my career from product based company and never did this to my support colleagues(contract staff) but after started working with service based company supporting as a vendor/contractor I faced this and there was no support from my own company as well. Now thinking of choosing only product based company as my next engagement (If possible).

    • @sushovandas5016
      @sushovandas5016 7 месяцев назад

      But why did you switch from product based to a service based?

    • @dayatec
      @dayatec 6 месяцев назад

      Greens on the river banks shore when u stand and look opp side. 😂😂

  • @TARamkumar
    @TARamkumar 7 месяцев назад +6

    This is very apt. Not only are they working long hours, these are so odd hours and these continuous calls disturb the entire family. We have to constantly hear their conversations. Not only these guys have client calls during odd hours but even their internal reviews happen during odd hours just because some manager is located in a different time zone.
    I think if this issue is not addressed quickly, I would strongly urge them to use their unions to put pressure and if need be go on a one day token strike. If that does not help, then they should go on strike indefinitely. But this should happen across companies. Not just in one company.

    • @GururajBN
      @GururajBN 7 месяцев назад

      I have worked in the manufacturing industries for a quarter century, when the labor unions were strong. The workers would take no nonsense from the supervisors. It is necessary to reintroduce labor unions in the IT sector too.

  • @ticketstotravel
    @ticketstotravel 7 месяцев назад +4

    I have multiple years of IT experience, Finance industry and mining industry. I would say still the way the clients of IT speak is far more polished that other industries

  • @canirmalchoudhary8173
    @canirmalchoudhary8173 Месяц назад

    Points are agreeable and valid. Respect and professionalism must be there.

  • @user-uj7rz6ot6v
    @user-uj7rz6ot6v 7 месяцев назад +2

    What you said is correct sir, there needs to be a much more work life balance for these youngsters.

  • @saswatab79
    @saswatab79 7 месяцев назад +2

    Very true representation of service companies. I worked in both services and product based companies and I can say Product based companies treat their employees as intellectual property and take good care of them. However in product based companies job security is not that much compared to service companies.

  • @Tapchak3112
    @Tapchak3112 7 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent advice. Great

  • @pubgs5296
    @pubgs5296 7 месяцев назад

    observations are to the point. I have faced most of these issues😢

  • @jayrashtrahindavi2089
    @jayrashtrahindavi2089 7 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely great subject video by you

  • @dhrubajyotimoitra
    @dhrubajyotimoitra 6 месяцев назад +7

    Thanks for bringing up the hearts of millions of Support Guys. My experience of 25-odd years suggests "Creating passive Income from the First Day of Your First Job and nurturing throughout your career ". That I missed in the excitement of getting my first paycheck, but many of my peers did and now they are much happier.

  • @jalajkhajotiaiitr
    @jalajkhajotiaiitr 7 месяцев назад

    very clearly stated. Had faced similar experiences during my 6Yrs IT experience.

  • @omkarmore2769
    @omkarmore2769 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video last line❤❤

  • @aniketmangale7776
    @aniketmangale7776 7 месяцев назад +4

    The same situation I faced while working with bnym banking account of wipro. For small small things you need to raise tickets and get the accessbility permissions, for which also client take amount of time to just approve. Then you will start work and after completing it while merging the code you need to resolve merging issues with client persons also. Everything is time consuming and at the end you will get exhaust by work in order to meet the timelines and on top of that you will get mental torture from client in return.

  • @debarshiacharya3729
    @debarshiacharya3729 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Pavan, when you spoke I saw myself in the mirror. Your scenarios are absolutely true and I totally agree with your content.

    • @PavanSathiraju
      @PavanSathiraju  7 месяцев назад +1

      Unfortunately truth for a lot of us

  • @mahidar100
    @mahidar100 6 месяцев назад +2

    Very true and harsh reality.. it’s high time government intervenes or an union is formed to address these issues 😕

  • @shanrajan7193
    @shanrajan7193 7 месяцев назад +1

    Sir really ur videos are very nice.I become a big fan of yours.

  • @emailshe
    @emailshe 7 месяцев назад +24

    Never blame your company because it is like blaming the person who feeds you. Get another job and then blame the old company

    • @rakesh1571986
      @rakesh1571986 7 месяцев назад +1

      Bro people do not leave company but managers.

  • @tryinfo
    @tryinfo 7 месяцев назад

    Well said thanks for sharing

  • @krishnaaveersinghhada9220
    @krishnaaveersinghhada9220 7 месяцев назад +5

    I think cheap resources is correct statement, i worked as TL in big MNC, i stood up the process from zero and there was no escalation everything was smooth with captive employees. But suddenly they outsourced to Wipro because it was cheap and they charged on per request basis i.e. apx 7-8 USD per request. But the dark side is the entire process has fallen their customers face issue like delay and quality, most of the employees were just 12th pass and pursuing graduation . They think like they can train anyone but they can't bring humility, ownership, accountability and zeal to improve the process and work as a team

  • @user-ll4zv6ql1s
    @user-ll4zv6ql1s 7 месяцев назад

    Completely relatable pavan !

  • @vishnusuresh3745
    @vishnusuresh3745 7 месяцев назад +2

    Sad reality of not just IT services.
    Same case with automation industry-sales services.

  • @sadiqrahman5848
    @sadiqrahman5848 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well Said...👍

  • @avi00102
    @avi00102 7 месяцев назад +3

    Managers and other leads glorify employees who can stretch and work late evening hours, just to respect the unreasonable timelines set for pleasing clients, that too with a few members team. Managers should keep enough resources in the team so that there's less load on one team member.

  • @Viralvlogvideos
    @Viralvlogvideos 7 месяцев назад +14

    I face this everyday at infosys I work very hard and late but client and managers are assholes, I m underpaid but overwork. Please don't join this companies

    • @dasabhd
      @dasabhd 7 месяцев назад

      Me too, even we are doing night shifts but just to please clients they aren’t charging for the shift allowance and neither providing us

    • @explo824
      @explo824 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also pls dont join Accenture

    • @truthseekerofknowledge
      @truthseekerofknowledge Месяц назад

      ​@@explo824 worst company .

  • @phani10
    @phani10 6 месяцев назад

    This is the best IT ranting channel found, but keep going!

  • @rajjabshaikh2179
    @rajjabshaikh2179 7 месяцев назад

    Hi.. thank you for your.. it's very true 👍...

  • @supersmart671
    @supersmart671 7 месяцев назад +3

    Very true. As long as India stays cheap, this is will continue. We need something innovative that is built in India with global footprint....now its other way around.

  • @RachakondaSrinivas
    @RachakondaSrinivas 7 месяцев назад

    Sir . Thank you sir . I just want to say. Thank you. Excellent analysis and important solution provided. I will share your video in my social media accounts for sure. Twitter Facebook WhatsApp everywhere. Yes. We should never take the pressure to brain. Else be ready for heart strokes at early age.

  • @anonymousan5063
    @anonymousan5063 7 месяцев назад +4

    Govt job is best to enjoy life with satisfaction and pride .As govt are afraid of their employees .

  • @rohittalwar5602
    @rohittalwar5602 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well said

  • @NITISHBHATT008
    @NITISHBHATT008 7 месяцев назад +3

    Clients hardly do these kind of things, but onsite managers surly do that.

  • @vinodgore7822
    @vinodgore7822 7 месяцев назад +5

    Hi Sir
    Can you also make one video on ‘Dark Side of Human Mind’ ?
    Thanks

    • @vibha3776
      @vibha3776 7 месяцев назад

      N office politics in IT

  • @thankcode
    @thankcode 5 месяцев назад +1

    Its true. In a new project, since one month I am struggling to setup zscalar on my machine. No help from client. I am doing my tasks using some workaround with aws workspace 😢

  • @nalenilambourdiere9620
    @nalenilambourdiere9620 Месяц назад +1

    As a teacher, you are describing the parent-teacher dynamics

  • @idiot8779
    @idiot8779 7 месяцев назад +1

    YOU ARE A GEM SIR, FIERCELY RAISING THESE ISSUE, YOU ARE TALKING WITH HEART. THANK YOU KEEP GOOING 🙏🙏

  • @muralidharans616
    @muralidharans616 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good explanation

  • @raghavsridhar
    @raghavsridhar 7 месяцев назад +4

    What I feel client are ok but our own people are difficult to handle

  • @shardulmane3743
    @shardulmane3743 7 месяцев назад +2

    100% correct

  • @a.t.55
    @a.t.55 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yes, I have been waiting for this video. 😂

  • @madhavi2424
    @madhavi2424 7 месяцев назад +1

    I worked in a large multi national org. As an fte and had a major intl. Consulting firm in the offshore. I used to literally spoon feed the offshore team but still they don't deliver . If there are 4 people in my team only 1 would do a slightly decent job. I work in services company now onsite and offshore people in my team didn't work even an hour a day . Only a couple of projects had good offshore . But most of the time offshore team barely works 1 or 2 hrs a day. 0:02

  • @amolbhopale1730
    @amolbhopale1730 7 месяцев назад +6

    In IT, only non-skillful, non-competent and the ones who just occupy bureaucratic chairs in the organization, become boot-lickers and then they start rotting the organization by multiple means. The challenge is to eliminate such positions time2time so that long term sustainability is ensured in the interest of many other employees.

  • @samhitabhattacharya3608
    @samhitabhattacharya3608 7 месяцев назад +4

    Well said but problem is even more deep routed and created by so called cheap service company chiefs by selling with a tag of cheap resource and under quoting than Tier 1 IT services companies ,they have defamed the entire Indian nations talent pool and other talented Indians face challenges even though they are not from these so called cheap service company and as a whole Indians are tagged by west they will work extra mile and whole responsibilities goes to these cheap service companies chief who created such a spoilt work culture and from day 1 they train the resources to say yes yes yes to client without even understanding the depth of the problem .These service companies dnt even invest of resource to uplift EQ and how to stand up as differentiator by using talent on the contrary they have been taught bend down the shoulder look at the ground level and talk politely to the clinet like master slave relation types.

    • @samhitabhattacharya3608
      @samhitabhattacharya3608 7 месяцев назад

      unfortunately 1/2 price sell does not work in talent industry and these chiefs are creating self disaster for the nation .For resources I can only say learn to stand out as differentiator among the mass and be in charge of your self dignity.

  • @generalpublicsoul1765
    @generalpublicsoul1765 7 месяцев назад

    ya correct. always say like this truth. so all our Indian will aware.
    and those have always mind ohh software software,, money money.. they will feel what will happen after some month of job.. How spondylytis and other desease happen..

  • @user-jt2ot8le1p
    @user-jt2ot8le1p 7 месяцев назад +1

    I worked in a famous Indian It company where I was forced by these factors and managers which and who drove me for resignation.... But still I regret doing that coz as fresher not even they let us know there is a dept change after 6 months

  • @vikashsingh-ft9qg
    @vikashsingh-ft9qg 7 месяцев назад +4

    dil ke baat kah di aapne

  • @GururajBN
    @GururajBN 7 месяцев назад +4

    You have said it as it is, without sugarcoating. I have known people working in IT companies who can’t take leave without the client’s consent. Little wonder that UR Ananthamurthy called them Cyber cookies. Frankly I think their lives are getting wasted without acquiring any marketable skills.

  • @vijayaragavan440891
    @vijayaragavan440891 7 месяцев назад +1

    very well done. so true. i no longer work for indian service companies any more. i have blacklisted them personally lol

  • @v25sinha
    @v25sinha 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a few of my team members who work precisely for 8:30 hrs every day at Bangalore and customers keep renewing their contracts...it's about efficiency as well ....if a customer is buying in the name of cheap labor....they are doomed as well...

  • @Ks-oj6tc
    @Ks-oj6tc 7 месяцев назад

    Well explained

  • @bhaskar4372
    @bhaskar4372 6 месяцев назад +1

    i am an SRE and i can say he is right about everything he say, it is very hectic nowadays.

  • @Mj-nc3ub
    @Mj-nc3ub 5 месяцев назад +2

    I have 13+ years of experience in IT support profile and I find wherever Indians in top management there is politics, favourism and unprofessional manner.

  • @lovesharma24
    @lovesharma24 7 месяцев назад +1

    I do agree with this video, I have been also tried but after done the documentation TCS got hold me for 4 months and when I have asked my HR they said 'nothing we have right now in future we will see' Very bad treatment after the interview..

  • @gauravkokitkar2517
    @gauravkokitkar2517 7 месяцев назад +1

    well said

  • @indian5005
    @indian5005 7 месяцев назад +5

    Product based companies are also same now a days. Client and company profit are first priority than work life balance.

    • @varunaggarwal7126
      @varunaggarwal7126 7 месяцев назад +2

      That's obvious but the feeling you got when you know the answer but you have to support your manager who is not a technical guy in his answer and if that does not work the fault is with you only

    • @indian5005
      @indian5005 7 месяцев назад

      @@varunaggarwal7126 The problem is with everyone who has taken huge loans....and stuck in a trap....so one has to work or be an independent consultant which some times dies not guarantee fixed income.

  • @BeatSyncBytes
    @BeatSyncBytes 7 месяцев назад +1

    Talking about these problems isn't everything, you need to provide a solution too

  • @vami5399
    @vami5399 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you 👍🙏

  • @dj10109
    @dj10109 7 месяцев назад +8

    Joining a service based company after 5yrs of experience has really ruined my career. Its 6am now and i am waiting for the client to do deployment so that i can do validation and make documents of it and this is the scenario of every day for us, working late nights and waking early n go to office after all these things.From last 1yr instead of coding i am just creating the documents for client and their devs. Still after doing all these things no appreciation from client infact negative feedback and no increment from my own company😢 if anyone get chance than plz don't join these service based exploiter giants.😮

    • @souvikmandal3991
      @souvikmandal3991 Месяц назад

      Which company you are in at least tell that

    • @dj10109
      @dj10109 Месяц назад

      @@souvikmandal3991 I am in TCS bro, if possible please don't join or if you have already joined move out asap. it will be good for career.

  • @kaulabbasu2138
    @kaulabbasu2138 7 месяцев назад +6

    I have been working with service based organizations for over 10 years now. I have never had this kind of conversation with a client(I have worked with American, European, Asian, African clients).
    I personally feel that it depends on an account leadership, how they maintain a fine balance. I strongly feel that clients(there may be exceptions), in general, will always try to be supportive unless they are being fed lies.
    All this mess boils down to poor estimation, having lack of technical spokespersons on onshore location representing an account. I personally have never felt let down by my leadership (and I am thankful for that) or by a client.

  • @ParasScorpio
    @ParasScorpio 7 месяцев назад

    They are no longer as cheap resources in India. They are being paid ridiculously high in other companies and the offset of such a trend begun in COVID ...... I doubt the offshore client are able to save cost by outsourcing though there are exceptions. Not the entire IT companies works on the dimensions set by infy tcs cognizant.......and not all the non mass hiring companies are startups either. Though some of your points are very spot on and I might have zoned off the conversation by beginning my statement but the stereotype way of weeping out the very pain n hurdles in IT is further than these

  • @ashwinkumar09uvce
    @ashwinkumar09uvce Месяц назад +1

    Very well said.. i had the same experience in Infosys with cheap mentality managers torturing employees to the core.

  • @preetikulkarni5722
    @preetikulkarni5722 6 месяцев назад

    Superb video👌👌

  • @manju861
    @manju861 5 месяцев назад +2

    First thing i remembered after seeing this video is pushpa movie, where allu arjun starts to deal with people who want sandalwood instead of going through mangalam sreenu, in fact why he does that is coz we have sandalwood, we should demand the money and people who want sandalwood should not demand. Let me elaborate so if India is having cheap skilled labour, we (Indian IT) need to demand the money from client and stop treating client as God, coz we are the upper hand here, but IT companies have made it in such a way that these people are ready to lick anything and make the clients as God.. first thing is we need to start considering our talent and have confidence on us and not on client coz Client doesn't have any other option for skilled labour, they have to come to India for it