Hey Brother Congratulations on the Baby, My wife and I pray that GOD will Bless you both with a HEALTHY,HAPPY, BEAUTIFUL BABY, what stories you guys will be able to tell. Loved the van floor build just finished, wanted to give you an idea by using the boat weave flooring that is used on high end boats, as your worried about your height and clearance. Comes in a lot of different designs and colors, But we know that you guys are also masters at this stuff already. We will be praying the vans drive shaft issue works out and we look forward to the next video, Stay safe and keep having your best day, you guys are blessed to have each other , GOD BLESS YOU BOTH 🙏❤️📺🚐
Thank you so much!!!! We really really appreciate that! I'll have to look into that, is there a specific brand you would recommend or should I just google search boat weave flooring? The van is back at the dealer now, hopefully we get it worked out!
I didn't realize that 3/8 pex came in a variety for hydronic systems. Is it rated as Oxygen Barrier PEX B? I didn't know they made it that small. Cool set up.
I’m SO glad I stumbled (and now subbed) across this channel! I was seriously debating DIY for our build with heated flooring. Not now! That looks so easy compared to measuring everything out on our own!❤🙌
So why if your floor insulation is c n c,d does it leave the ribbing area hollow below the deck? Seems inefficient and a space for condensation. Also 4000.00 for just this subfloor system without the mechanicals? Ouchhhhh
OMG! That looks so easy! I think of all the struggles I had with my subfloor and wish mine had been that easy. But even then I don't think I could stomach the $$ they are charging. If you can afford it that is a wonderful solution even if you don't use the radiant heating.
👍 On the radiant floor heating! In my opinion, I would try and keep all the future van builds a "couple" two person effort if at all possible. 👍 I found the combination of technical "stuff" along with the interaction between you two to be very entertaining... yeah keep the neighbor (in a limited role)! You know... we are two of the luckiest guys in the world... To live with talented, beautiful partners (inside and out) along with being able to live life on our terms... PRICELESS! Ski Update... I did a few beautiful runs this morning before work in fresh man-made powder... even with the lack of snow and warm weather the season has been fairly decent! The ski instructor gig has been amazing.... KEEP LIVING THE DREAM!
Agreed I love when Taylor gets involved it’s so much more fun! I agree it’s priceless I’m very grateful!! I’m off to Breckenridge in a week for a boys trip, can’t wait! Hope all is well Lee thanks for the continued support!
This build should be made into Netflix series, you two are the main characters and funny-crazy neighbors adding to the storyline. But this is perfect because I don’t need a Netflix subscription!!
Hey, I have been following you guys for a little while now. I like the whole ideal of radiant flooring. Planning on doing a van build later this year. I'm sure that I will be building with this in mind. I'm also interested in how you will incorporate the water and heat. Great job. looking forward to the new van build.
i bought the coollant water pump 15 kw for that purpose. I did not bough the foam and tubes yet. Are you sure that will not risk to freeze or leak? that what I am affraid. MY floor of my box truck is in thick 2x6 inches and 1/4 inches plywood on top of that. the floor is in excellent condition. look like new and it is 20 years old floor. that is why i don't want water go on it. Also my last question is about the winter time. in Canada sometime is -20 celcius. average -10 celcius. how to be sure the water of the shower and sink will not freeze? can i put inside that floor too?
Nice build guys! Has the wood worked out fine for you as the floor top temperature wise? Also, did you install any vinyl floor on top of the wood panel? Trying to figure out if my 12mm OSB + a vinyl floor on the very top will allow the temperature go through nicely? Thanks a lot guys!
So have you been able to go out and try out your floor heating system? If you could do it the same way again would you? What was the cost of this floor? It looks amazing and I am getting ready to do a cargo trailer build out. Thanks
If budgets not an issue I would add the heated floors, but I wouldn’t solely rely on it, make sure you have an air blower in your hydronic system in addition to the radiant floors
I had the same drive shaft issue on my 2008 extended. Its the universal joints. The OEM Universal joint does not use Zerk fittings. There is a version that does use Zerk fittings. Use the version with Zerk fittings and grease them every 20k Miles. Problem solved. Mercedes dealer tried to sell me a new drive shaft
I looked into that floor when I bought my rixens system but the price is was so obscene I decided against it. I think it might be the best thing out there though.
I hear ya Michael, I wasn't excited to do this DIY since I'm very concerned about internal height and this was the best solution without a doubt. Can't wait to get our Rixen's hydronic system installed as well!
would it be crazy to place it in without adhesive? Kind of like a floating floor installation with LVP? Just seems like with the template interlocking and being held in place with the wheel wells that it wouldn't move around much, and if you ever needed to get underneath it then you could pull it up easier (provided your cabinets and what not aren't too permanently mounted.)
how do the nails or staples work, do they go through the floor or into the rubber pad? Wow, nice kit! Sure a lot faster than measuring n cutting everything.
what a great idea/design! Any idea how long it would take to heat up that space and how much energy you'll need/do you have to keep the system running? I'm going to have to add this to my wishlist for when I start my build!
You just threw your money out the window unless there’s some form of insulation underneath that Radiant heat is going to heat the metal and go right out take for someone to install radiant heating for years
Its 5k if you get a top floor from campervan hq. If you select “no top floor” it’s under $4k. Still a good amount of money, not arguing that, but it’s not $5k
@@MathersOnTheMap Actually mine was $5500 for the same floor. I have a 170 ext van, so with the floor, shipping, birch plywood top and the extra parts from Rixen to make it work it was $5500. Also I did not get an option to skip the birch top floor as they said it comes with it as a package........I really hope its worth it......would love to know how you have been liking the floors? Thank you!
As a mechanical and thermal engineer, I can guarantee this system is absolute non-sense. I don't know how much you've been paid to promote this, but that's not nice for the people who gonna be scammed because of you :(
@@MathersOnTheMap foam thermal conductivity is not significantly lower than plywood's. Given that the foam is in direct contact with the body of the van, where you can have convection of freezing air, the temperature gradient while be way higher on the foam side. Therefore your system will heat outside your van, not inside. Also the aluminium transfer plate are useless in this case. They are not directional so will transfer up as well as down. You've paid $5000 for an improved engine cooling! Might as well bought a $100 electric mat...
@@ValerienClaire-uv2sr haha I mean I'm literally using it right now and heating the van doing exactly what it's intended to do. Here's the link to the company if ya want to tell them your issues with it. www.justroamingdesign.com/columbia-flooring-system
@@ValerienClaire-uv2sr I am an engineer. I have experience in HVAC as well. Heat rises. You need to properly insulate between the van floor and the PEZ-AL-PEX. Using 10 MM of Aerogel blanket should be more than sufficient. I used 20mm in my build. I put Kilmat down first then the Aerogel Blanket. After assembly, I checked with a thermal camera and a IR thermometer. The radiant system was running as hot as I could get it. The engine was off and it was about 35°F outside at the time. There was no detectable heat loss to the chassis in my installation. The T.C nor the IR showed anything detectable. I do NOT recommend the installation method shown here. Now if you do not have adequate insulation then you would waste some heat to the vans chassis floor. Aerogel blanket is the only insulation thin enough to use in this application. The stuffs amazing. Most insulation if you compress it it looses its R value. But Aerogel blanket is compressible. It just will not conduct heart.. You use 6 to 10 10-32 Flat head Stainless steel Machine screws per sheet to hold it in place. DO NOT use Adhesive. This way it is removable. Use removable self sealing threaded water fittings to connect the PEX=Al-PEX to the heater. I also did not use regular plywood. It is not waterproof nor flat. I used Coosa board. You are making a flexible sandwich between two layers of Glass mat. LAYERS a. Thin Carpet b. Aluminum .032” radiator large flat 4 x 8 sheets. Optional Hold in place along edges with #90 spray adhesive. c. Thin Glass Cloth / Thermally conductive Epoxy. d. 5/8"” Coosa Board / 3/8" ID PEX-Al-PEX with aluminum radiators e. Glass Cloth / Epoxy f. 8 Mil Vapor barrier. g. Aerogel blanket ½” thick or 12mm he height if the floor ribs. h. 100 Mil Kilmat 90 % coverage i. Steel van floor The Aluminum transfer plates are not useless. They are radiators and allow you to put heat where it is needed. This system is modeled and very similar to home radiant systems. The system works and if you can install it yourself you can save a lot. Also having a propane heater with a fan helps circulate the air and provide instant heat until the system heats up.
Hey Brother Congratulations on the Baby, My wife and I pray that GOD will Bless you both with a HEALTHY,HAPPY, BEAUTIFUL BABY, what stories you guys will be able to tell. Loved the van floor build just finished, wanted to give you an idea by using the boat weave flooring that is used on high end boats, as your worried about your height and clearance. Comes in a lot of different designs and colors, But we know that you guys are also masters at this stuff already. We will be praying the vans drive shaft issue works out and we look forward to the next video, Stay safe and keep having your best day, you guys are blessed to have each other , GOD BLESS YOU BOTH 🙏❤️📺🚐
Thank you so much!!!! We really really appreciate that! I'll have to look into that, is there a specific brand you would recommend or should I just google search boat weave flooring? The van is back at the dealer now, hopefully we get it worked out!
Your neighbor is seriously a hoot! It might be annoying to get interrupted but this guy adds a fun element.
Haha Glenn is nuts!
Hahaha
This looks like this van will be a million dollar van when they complete their build. 🎉🎉🎉
Your neighbor Glenn brings a great element to your videos. It must be nice having folks like him around your family.
Haha agreed! Glenn’s great!!
I didn't realize that 3/8 pex came in a variety for hydronic systems. Is it rated as Oxygen Barrier PEX B? I didn't know they made it that small. Cool set up.
I’m SO glad I stumbled (and now subbed) across this channel! I was seriously debating DIY for our build with heated flooring. Not now! That looks so easy compared to measuring everything out on our own!❤🙌
So why if your floor insulation is c n c,d does it leave the ribbing area hollow below the deck? Seems inefficient and a space for condensation. Also 4000.00 for just this subfloor system without the mechanicals? Ouchhhhh
Does this have moisture barrier built in or do you place one down before that pre-built JustRoaming floor?
OMG! That looks so easy! I think of all the struggles I had with my subfloor and wish mine had been that easy. But even then I don't think I could stomach the $$ they are charging. If you can afford it that is a wonderful solution even if you don't use the radiant heating.
Agreed it definitely is expensive! But it’s a MASSIVE time saver and if you’re worried about internal height it’s definitely something to consider.
@@MathersOnTheMap how tall are you? I am considering a build and I am 6'2" and concerned about the height....
👍 On the radiant floor heating!
In my opinion, I would try and keep all the future van builds a "couple" two person effort if at all possible. 👍
I found the combination of technical "stuff" along with the interaction between you two to be very entertaining... yeah keep the neighbor (in a limited role)!
You know... we are two of the luckiest guys in the world...
To live with talented, beautiful partners (inside and out) along with being able to live life on our terms... PRICELESS!
Ski Update...
I did a few beautiful runs this morning before work in fresh man-made powder... even with the lack of snow and warm weather the season has been fairly decent!
The ski instructor gig has been amazing....
KEEP LIVING THE DREAM!
Agreed I love when Taylor gets involved it’s so much more fun!
I agree it’s priceless I’m very grateful!! I’m off to Breckenridge in a week for a boys trip, can’t wait!
Hope all is well Lee thanks for the continued support!
Great system. That will be great in the colder climates. Nice work.
Thanks Bill, yes it will we’re stoked!!!
This build should be made into Netflix series, you two are the main characters and funny-crazy neighbors adding to the storyline. But this is perfect because I don’t need a Netflix subscription!!
Haha thanks Mark!! Glad your liking the build!! Hopeful to get back to it next week 😁
I freaking love Glenn 😂
Haha us too!
Hey, I have been following you guys for a little while now. I like the whole ideal of radiant flooring. Planning on doing a van build later this year. I'm sure that I will be building with this in mind. I'm also interested in how you will incorporate the water and heat. Great job. looking forward to the new van build.
Thanks Steven! Yea we're stoked on this van, need to get more van build episodes up on the channel!
You will be happy with Rixen’s support. They are awesome!
Yea we are pretty stoked and cannot wait to fully test it out!
Van flooring just got easier to installing the carpet and the equipment of continuing the van to building a different level of a van flooring!
i bought the coollant water pump 15 kw for that purpose. I did not bough the foam and tubes yet. Are you sure that will not risk to freeze or leak? that what I am affraid. MY floor of my box truck is in thick 2x6 inches and 1/4 inches plywood on top of that. the floor is in excellent condition. look like new and it is 20 years old floor. that is why i don't want water go on it. Also my last question is about the winter time. in Canada sometime is -20 celcius. average -10 celcius. how to be sure the water of the shower and sink will not freeze? can i put inside that floor too?
Looks very nice! Can you describe what kind of heater do it need? I can't find information about it. Thanks
Nice build guys! Has the wood worked out fine for you as the floor top temperature wise? Also, did you install any vinyl floor on top of the wood panel? Trying to figure out if my 12mm OSB + a vinyl floor on the very top will allow the temperature go through nicely? Thanks a lot guys!
how is it working out a year later? do you guys still like it?
So have you been able to go out and try out your floor heating system? If you could do it the same way again would you? What was the cost of this floor? It looks amazing and I am getting ready to do a cargo trailer build out. Thanks
If budgets not an issue I would add the heated floors, but I wouldn’t solely rely on it, make sure you have an air blower in your hydronic system in addition to the radiant floors
I had the same drive shaft issue on my 2008 extended. Its the universal joints. The OEM Universal joint does not use Zerk fittings. There is a version that does use Zerk fittings. Use the version with Zerk fittings and grease them every 20k Miles. Problem solved. Mercedes dealer tried to sell me a new drive shaft
I looked into that floor when I bought my rixens system but the price is was so obscene I decided against it. I think it might be the best thing out there though.
I hear ya Michael, I wasn't excited to do this DIY since I'm very concerned about internal height and this was the best solution without a doubt. Can't wait to get our Rixen's hydronic system installed as well!
would it be crazy to place it in without adhesive? Kind of like a floating floor installation with LVP? Just seems like with the template interlocking and being held in place with the wheel wells that it wouldn't move around much, and if you ever needed to get underneath it then you could pull it up easier (provided your cabinets and what not aren't too permanently mounted.)
I would probably just bolt it down with the mounting holes so it’s less permanent but still secured
It's a year later. Are you happy with the system?
Checking the 3 fingers gap with the ceiling, how tall are you?
how do the nails or staples work, do they go through the floor or into the rubber pad? Wow, nice kit! Sure a lot faster than measuring n cutting everything.
It’s awesome! They staple into the fiberglass close cell foam sub floor.
How long can the heat in the Hydronic system last once the van engine is off?
How do you keep the water from freezing with the pex
It has antifreeze in the lines not water.
MB likely needs to open the rear diff and check the ring and pinion engagement as well.
Is that the Columbia system?
How much was this entire kit from cnc?
$5500 for the ext 170 with shipping, and the parts from rixen you need......
what a great idea/design! Any idea how long it would take to heat up that space and how much energy you'll need/do you have to keep the system running? I'm going to have to add this to my wishlist for when I start my build!
Not sure yet but can’t wait to test it out and try it!
@@MathersOnTheMap can't wait for the followup video!
@@MathersOnTheMap HI do you have an update on the floors? Thank you!
Glenn needs a youtube channel.
Hi, just for reference how tall are you both?
I Kevin am 6’1” tay is much smaller haha
You just threw your money out the window unless there’s some form of insulation underneath that Radiant heat is going to heat the metal and go right out take for someone to install radiant heating for years
This floor is $5,000! 😢 well, guess I’ll have to move on to the next idea.
Its 5k if you get a top floor from campervan hq. If you select “no top floor” it’s under $4k. Still a good amount of money, not arguing that, but it’s not $5k
pricey,,its not that hard to cut plywood strips glue them,,done it,,
@@MathersOnTheMap Actually mine was $5500 for the same floor. I have a 170 ext van, so with the floor, shipping, birch plywood top and the extra parts from Rixen to make it work it was $5500. Also I did not get an option to skip the birch top floor as they said it comes with it as a package........I really hope its worth it......would love to know how you have been liking the floors? Thank you!
Even at $4k that’s outrageous for such a tiny space.
Very entertaining & interesting. Just make a rule for Kevin, no shoes or hats in the van.
Thanks Tom! And yup, we’re no shoes in the van anyway plus we’ll want to have our feet on the floor now that it’s heated!
Hopefully KJ is better at hockey than his dad!!😂😂😂
haha I hope KJ will be better than me at everything!!!!
How tall is MacGyver?
Is MacGyver Kevin? If so he is 6’1” haha!
What does it cost?
It ranges anywhere from $3670 to $6250 depending on the size of your build and type of vehicle.
Very expensive and battery hungry
How tall are you
6’1”
Pimp upgrade!
Thanks Will!
Watts what?
Come to India
The floor costs more than my entire build. Who do these people think they are? Won't contribute to profit greed. No thank you.
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When you're actually rich but romanticize the life of the poor 😂😂 this Nu VanLife stuff really has ruined things.
As a mechanical and thermal engineer, I can guarantee this system is absolute non-sense. I don't know how much you've been paid to promote this, but that's not nice for the people who gonna be scammed because of you :(
What? Why is it nonsense? It works great
@@MathersOnTheMap foam thermal conductivity is not significantly lower than plywood's. Given that the foam is in direct contact with the body of the van, where you can have convection of freezing air, the temperature gradient while be way higher on the foam side. Therefore your system will heat outside your van, not inside. Also the aluminium transfer plate are useless in this case. They are not directional so will transfer up as well as down. You've paid $5000 for an improved engine cooling! Might as well bought a $100 electric mat...
@@ValerienClaire-uv2sr haha I mean I'm literally using it right now and heating the van doing exactly what it's intended to do. Here's the link to the company if ya want to tell them your issues with it. www.justroamingdesign.com/columbia-flooring-system
@@ValerienClaire-uv2sr I am an engineer. I have experience in HVAC as well. Heat rises. You need to properly insulate between the van floor and the PEZ-AL-PEX. Using 10 MM of Aerogel blanket should be more than sufficient. I used 20mm in my build.
I put Kilmat down first then the Aerogel Blanket. After assembly, I checked with a thermal camera and a IR thermometer. The radiant system was running as hot as I could get it. The engine was off and it was about 35°F outside at the time. There was no detectable heat loss to the chassis in my installation. The T.C nor the IR showed anything detectable.
I do NOT recommend the installation method shown here. Now if you do not have adequate insulation then you would waste some heat to the vans chassis floor. Aerogel blanket is the only insulation thin enough to use in this application. The stuffs amazing. Most insulation if you compress it it looses its R value. But Aerogel blanket is compressible. It just will not conduct heart..
You use 6 to 10 10-32 Flat head Stainless steel Machine screws per sheet to hold it in place. DO NOT use Adhesive. This way it is removable. Use removable self sealing threaded water fittings to connect the PEX=Al-PEX to the heater.
I also did not use regular plywood. It is not waterproof nor flat. I used Coosa board. You are making a flexible sandwich between two layers of Glass mat.
LAYERS
a. Thin Carpet
b. Aluminum .032” radiator large flat 4 x 8 sheets. Optional Hold in place along edges with #90 spray adhesive.
c. Thin Glass Cloth / Thermally conductive Epoxy.
d. 5/8"” Coosa Board / 3/8" ID PEX-Al-PEX with aluminum radiators
e. Glass Cloth / Epoxy
f. 8 Mil Vapor barrier.
g. Aerogel blanket ½” thick or 12mm he height if the floor ribs.
h. 100 Mil Kilmat 90 % coverage
i. Steel van floor
The Aluminum transfer plates are not useless. They are radiators and allow you to put heat where it is needed. This system is modeled and very similar to home radiant systems.
The system works and if you can install it yourself you can save a lot.
Also having a propane heater with a fan helps circulate the air and provide instant heat until the system heats up.