Grounded Tech Review - Problems on PS5 and Switch - All Consoles Tested
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Developer Obsidian's garden-themed survival game crosses over to PS5 and Nintendo Switch - though with issues on each at launch. Grounded is one of the first wave of Xbox exclusive titles to release on the competing PS5 platform, along with Hi Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves and Pentiment - but here again we see odd differences in shadow quality and object draw on Sony's machine - with an impact on its performance.
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00:00 Introduction
02:24 PS5/Xbox Series X|S Graphics Comparison
09:33 Xbox Series X|S Frame-Rate Test
10:48 PS5 Frame-Rate Test
12:16 Switch Graphics Comparison
15:03 Switch Frame-Rate Test
16:21 Verdict 
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These are very interesting comparisons, but the comment sections become terrible so fast on any exclusive (or originally exclusive) game. I really like this one, so I just wanted to know if my friends were getting a decent experience on other platforms for crossplay.
Loving it on PS4 so much I'm here considering also getting the switch version lol
I've played it on pc for over a 100h. Mostly because my gf and her friend at the time really loved it. But I don't think it should be compared to games like the very janky, but fun Ark or the incredibly made Valheim. The games presentation is great, it has a very solid and unique style, fun characters, good insect/mob designs and pretty ok music. But the a.i., pathfinding, progression, grind and even the story somewhat are lackluster at best and broken at worst. I don't need a story to enjoy such a game as Valheim, which has one of the best progression arcs IMHO has entertained me a lot more. But this game needs a story to be fun and it's just serviceable. This might be personal, but I've played so many survival games and Grounded has felt like the one with the biggest gap between everything feeling like a chore and gratification. It often feels either too easy or unfair, instead of providing a balanced and fun challenge. This has mostly to do with the progression and the insects a.i.
Yeah. These comments really lack perspective and focus on completely trivial things. It's obvious these people don't actually care about graphics tech and would rather just use graphics as a weapon against other fanboys.
Japanese developers have done this for decades for ports to xbox. So this is just a right back at you kind of thing.
Tom didn't check to see if the shadows cast by objects affected by the player's flaming torch at night are present, as seen in the PC's epic settings. It's an effect that really adds a lot to the atmosphere, especially in players bases during the long evenings of this wonderful game.
I'm frankly floored at how well the Switch's diminutive hardware is able to bear the brunt of such an expansive game. Despite already having a pretty large base built in my game, the switch is still performing surprisingly well! Sure the resolution is a bit fuzzy, but the game runs incredibly solid! I've been jumping back and forth between my PS5 and Switch, while my brother has been using his switch and Xbox Series X and we've had a really great and surprisingly stable experience!
Can you tell me how you are able to switch back and fourth between PS5 and Switch? I cannot figure out cross saving in this game. I'm playing strictly single-player. I that my issue? Should I have started a multiplayer game in order to play the same game between both? I'm signed into the same xbox/microsoft account on both Switch and PS5 but the saves don't ever upload or anything like that. I would love to be able to switch between PS5 when I'm at home and Switch handheld the rest of the time. I enjoy playing on both.
@@crowneproductions9908
You have to link your Microsoft account to enable cross play, then you select multiplayer and host an online lobby. You can make an online copy of your single player save, so none of your time will be wasted. The inventory can be wonky sometimes though, so just remember to empty your inventory into a chest before logging off. Good luck!
@@crowneproductions9908
The cross saving is an online multiplayer thing. You'll need to go to multiplayer, then select host, then create an online version of your single player save. After that you'll be doing most of your playing on multiplayer, even if no one is playing with you. If you decide you want to play offline, then you simply convert your online save back to single player.
Thank you! This worked
Compared to Pikmin 4 which was made using the same engine this port looks like garbage.
Me and the kids have been playing since day one....one of the best MP experiences I or we ever had....so good
Love this game on my Series X
Such a cool game. I'm glad other platforms are now able to play it.
PS5 can't really enjoy this though, it runs kinda bad. I wouldn't buy this myself on PS5 honestly
I'm sure it will get better, like everything else these days, with updates.
Not worth playing on PS5 with these problems.. I rather play it on XSX
@@504TreyIt didn't look worth playing on any platform
Is this on game pass?
It would be nice if they could include the Steam Deck into these comparisons. I do understand that'd be a lot of configurations to include in one video, though.
I think that the problem with the PS5's lower resolution and framerate is down to the porting process itself. I think it might be a general lack of optimization when porting from the DirectX API to the PS5's native API.
so why does high rush and sea of thieves or even other MS exclusives run better on ps5?
@@djfunky817
Better optimization.
He's saying that this looks like a straight port with little optimization. Which I'd agree with.
Dropping to 1080p v 1512p is quite a large divide. That hasn't been a gulf that great this entire generation. It seems almost like it is running in a backward compatible mode
I absolutely loved/love Grounded. I'm glad other console gamers get to experience it now. Exclusivity is stupid.
My son and I have hrs in this. Lol
I never stopped playing it when it was in preview. It has come a long way, not that it was ever horrible.
I bet the problem of the PS5 version is incomplete optimization for the plattform. The disparity is just to big for very similar hardware.
Well the past few games have been better on ps5 than Xbox for Xbox games. I wonder if they did it as a "late port" to not makeps5 the advantaged console lol
@@Gravy1255 Why would they try to make a game worse on another platform? They want to be able to sell that game on that platform. They're not like " Hey guys..did you see the fanboys flipping out over the shadows? Bring Grounded back here. We have to make it worse. who cares about the sales? Fanboys are mad!!"
This is not like Xbox where most people are playing through Gamepass. They actually need people on Playstation to buy a copy of the game. Making a game worse is the dumbest thing a company can do.
@ItzMeWill well there really is no other reason for such a shitty running game now is there. Poor optimization Why? It'll get fixed in a week probably but why not wait a week to launch when it's done? There has been lots of controversy over pentament, Hifi and Sea of thieves running better and being superior on PS5 vs Xbox. Not to out Landis if they did an "oops it's not fully optimized on realese sorry guys" people were pre ordering it/buying it anyways.
i call it the lazy effort, it's like alright we'll make it available, but we won't do anything special. the Switch port can be forgiven, given it's hardware, but you mean to tell me the PS5 has a worst version than the Series S, please make that shit up lol.
All kidding aside just avoid the Switch version, i played the game on gamepass,
and i really don't get the hype.
@@Gravy1255 it's incompetence from the people doing the port, nothing to do with them sabotaging the game to make it look and run poorly. Just like how it was incompetence that messed up The Last of Us PC port.. Sony is not gonna purposely sabotage the PC port of TLOU when they're trying to make money off of it..They would not have made a PC port in the first place if they were gonna mess up the port and risk it not selling.. the logic is ridiculous...yea people are pre-ordering the xbox games...but Microsoft also wants to keep selling the game beyond the release date.
Great tech review, Tom! It's awesome that everyone gets to try out this amazing game now, but what an absolutely bizarre mix of performance issues.
The fact that they could get it running on Switch is nothing short of incredible, but that is by far the largest performance gap between a Sony/MS version that I've seen since the 360 generation. What on Earth happened during their development for PS5??
Everyone should try this game out, though! The sense of discovery while exploring that backyard is second to none. I've been playing survival games as long as they've been a thing, and this one had me saying "whooooaaaaaa" more than a few times.
Grounded is a great game. Hope it gets some love on new platforms.
I know it’s not a console, but I’d have been interested to see the Steam Deck data in this comparison.
I put some 25 hours into the steam deck version, it runs on medium settings, native 800p resolution and 50 - 60fps. It looks stunning on the oled
I loved the video, it was very complete, but I missed the PS4 and PS4 Pro here a little, it bothers me a little that it's being left aside because I can hardly find videos showing its version of the games that are coming out now.
I mean - can you really blame them? There are a lot of releases these days and compiling material from 4 consoles and analysing it is already a lot of work.
Besides - the last generation of consoles are really in decline, with support from the industry dropping off 11 years after release - it's time to let them go.
I have this game on PS4 and it runs great. Looks way better than the switch version and not much worse than the PS five.
Very unfortunate that the PS5 versions seem to lack some love or time in respect to optimisation.
Hope they can go back in and fix it.
With it being a multiplayer game you would expect that they would support it longer than the launch window i guess.. but time will tell.
Great review Tom as always!
I'm sure it will get smaller updates. But they already announced no more content updates for the game, only bug fixes.
Once again, the curious shadow detail on PS5 lol. It seems to be every game now that has this; would be nice if DF could investigate why. Also, it's interesting how it has extra geometry compared to Series X, but a much lower resolution and worse frame rate. I'm guessing this is just a poorly optimised port.
Simplemente la PS5 no da para más amigo
@@MysticCoder APIs are different so expect difference results ps5 is likely to win cause games favor high frequency than multi low frequency CUs to close specs.
It's just the way how ps api handles shadows compared to directx on Xbox and pc.
When the game is ported to the PS5, it has to run on the PS5's custom API, right?
Maybe the PS5's API handles shadows differently.
They should create a lock 1440p Resolution mode with FSR3 to scale the image to 4K,locking the game at 40FPS, with VRR support and 120hz that would play and render much better the objects in Ps5 and Series X, and maintain a good 1440p resolution most of the time, creating a 40FPS mode on series S and using FSR3 can indeed increase the resolution from 1080p to a 1440p upscale image that would be so much better, so it be a win win for this game to have a 40FPS mode in all consoles.
Really disappointing PS5 release. I hope Obsidian gets around to fixing that performance
they dont give a f, they wont
Another reason to not buy it.
@@simonrockstream There are twice as much Ps5 owners as Xbox owners so they better cater to the majority and fix it .
@Crashed131963 can't fix what the weaker console can't handle. The resolution is already lower. Ps5 just struggles with unreal engine. It has the same unstable frame times in fortnite and robocop.
@@Blu3ManiC dude nearly every new game runs better on the ps5 and nobody knows why
Wild to think I've been in love with this game for four years already! Neat that my niblings could play on Switch with me now. That's awesome!
Excellent technical review.
❤ yess
Also as i can see, you have tested only the beggining of the game. In mid to late game there are a lot of places with particles (under the shed, mantis fight) and they are causing MASSIVE drops on Series X. In Mantis fight it goes down to 10-15fps.
Beautiful OST.
Would love to see what an unlocked Switch with all clocks at max for CPU, GPU and memory them run this game and test it.
They need to polish up that performance but even then some weird pros and cons with the PS5 port 🤔 no idea why the res is *that* low.
really love the shrunken premise, we need it in more games that arent about base building and survival
Im confused as to why they chose a game like Grounded for a Switch port. The realistic visuals and graphics would be harder to replicate than some of the other Xbox exclusives, like Hi-Fi Rush or something. Still, I do find it impressive how they managed to downscale the game and make it run properly.
And how does it look and run on a PS4 or PS4 pro ?
I'm sure the framerate issues will get cleaned up. It's great that the catered audience will have more chances of finding others to play with online. This environment looks perfect for VR, too bad the framerate might be a hindrance to that happening on the PS5 version/no patch of the native version. Curious if Microsoft gets this released on the Meta Quest though. And from there, who knows.
Don't think I've heard 360p mentioned since the 90s retro games. :P
So you've slept on like most switch ports that render at that res?
@@XZ-III Don’t remember them being that low. I’ve watched most of the DF videos recent years, though. If there are many more, then somehow I’ve missed them. But I’m not playing third party AAA games on my Switch either.
@@Str0b0 well even exclusives can reach that low. Xenoblade 2 alone I remember reaching like 378p-540p.
It seems like Xbox took all those "Xbox games run and look better on PS5" comments to heart and purposefully nuked the PS5 version.
Citation needed
Nah the machine is just struggling these days.
It’s more of an unusual trade off. Bit better graphics on PS5, but worse resolution and framerate. Not a trade I’d make, but it might have to due with differences in the consoles
That's not how game porting works. The game would've been going through certification on playstation weeks ago
Don't believe the lies Sony just paid for digital foundry to say those games were better on ps5. Sony obviously didn't pay for this video so digital foundry can tell the truth.
nice review
PS5 performance doesn't make any sense. Lower max resolution is understandable. Lower range in dynamic resolution adjusting makes sense as the SX does have a bit more horse power under the hood. But the frame rate being so unstable and frame pacing being all over the place is just...strange. A few wobbles during big moments would be understandable but this is falling from just basic traversal.
Even that wouldn’t make sense
Don't sleep on this game once fixed if you have anyone to play this. It's beautiful!
We have ppl on Twitter arguing over slight shadow differences.
I'm not surprised. People are crazy on twitter.
Ye it’s funny lol, the fanboys are so incredibly sad.
Twitter is literally a cesspool of adults acting like children at the kindergarten playground.
Twitter is a literal hellhole, so glad I deleted it.
Let’s be clear, this is basically a Honey I shrunk the Kids game.
It's funny to see ps5 and XSX trading blows game to game. I know they're "roughly the same power" with a slight edge to XSX for TFLOPs, memory bandwidth, CPU speed, etc., but apparently ps5 has a higher pixel fill rate. So, they trade blows depending on the game and what's on screen. Interesting indeed. Also, for the money, I ❤ XSS. It's a great low $ option to play the latest games. Good stuff and options all around imo
Lowering shadow in Ps5 might do better.
I'm glad this came to switch. Saw someone stream it and it looked good, although I can play it on PS5 I think I'd rather have it portable.
I'm still fascinated by those switch ports and like to play them...weird :D
Right?? I know it's the worst version, but there's something about that, idk what. Playing them is kinda charming
This game was one of biggest surprises when I first played it, it hooks you in especially if you enjoy the nineties style throughout. Also, going all out on the souls like combat adds a lot to sense of scale near the bottom of the food chain.
Wow that switch port…yikes Nintendo desperately needs that switch 2 😅
seriously lol
It’s crazy to think that this game runs on a PS5/SeriesX and on a Switch. Have to give props to the switch for holding its own cause the technological gap is massive!
I've been looking at getting Grounded either for my Series X, or my PS5. Thank you for the video, you've pushed my purchase over to the Xbox. Though i still like the PS5 controller better. 😉
Still looks pretty good on Switch.
We need weather effects like rain n so on
If they don’t have the time and resources to properly port the PS5 version, they they should at least put the current settings as on optional, VRR mode, and adjust the default option to whatever results a stable FPS.
But I would welcome the same, loosely optimized version of Helldivers 2, as long as the frame rate will stable. Resolution and visuals are second to stabil framerate and crossplay multiplayer.
It looks fine on PS5. Most people aren’t looking for these small details that you really can only identify with a side by side comparison. Looks like a fun game
Nah, it isn't fine on Ps5. As soon as you start building a base the frames drop even more to the point I have to take a break for the sake of my eyes.. They should have tested this as well as it is a major part of the game.
Grounded is a fantastic game, I have it on Steam and PS5/PS4 now. It's a real shame Microsoft & Obsidian released such a shoddy port on the PS5. I even made a post on Obsidian's forums about it after purchasing it last week. I'm happy to see DF actually covering it because a user complaining about the frame rate/stutter isn't usually taken as seriously as something like DF. Hopefully this gets the ball rolling on performance/bug fixes, if they haven't already started before this DF video. Not putting your best foot forward on a new platform is a bad look for both MS & Obsidian and it only hurts your IPs and this one, again, is fantastic. Definitely skip it on the PS5 for now if frame rate/stutter bothers you. Again fantastic game, Obsidian's best imo, and I've only played it solo (200hrs PC) so I'm sure it's even better playing with friends.
It’s not “Honey I Shrunk The Kids” without an uncomfortably long teen make out scene.
what
The tonsil hockey goes on for 12 seconds, btw.
@@COOLFRIEND How many times have you looped it for....research. Surprised you just freely admit this lol. Please have a seat
jews
@@COOLFRIEND well there is a tongue kissing scene, but i never kept track how long it was. i used to fast forward that part.
Due to the lack of interesting games for analysis, could you do a new analysis of The Lord of the Fallen, the performance has improved considerably
Can this be played on the steam deck?
Yes. It says for every tested game on the Steam store. Including specific issues. Though this game seem to have none, apart from the mandatory MS registration.
This is such a great game, glad everyone gets to play it now.
Building a base on Ps5 will bring the framerate down considerably more. Which is messing my eyes up sadly. I hope they will come with some optimization fixes but until then I will have to take a break :(
Haven't had a single issues in 60 hours on PS5. Absolutely love this game. Best survival game ever.
Same here. I’ve had no problem
It's also out for ps4 I think
It's also been over a decade since PS4 came out and over 3 years since ps5 released
@@jjnet123uhhhh... ok?
@@StarmenRock im saying why would they look at PS4 when not many will be playing on that
@@jjnet123 still has a huge userbase since ps5 is notoriously expensive in most of the world. wouldnt doubt that there are more people with active ps4s than ps5s especially if you count brazil, india and china
@@StarmenRock it's not expensive, halfway through the console generation at this point are we expecting these people to just wait for ps6?
8:30 SSR on PS5 looks a lot better, no word on that?
Strange.. For such few graphical advantages on ps5 compared to x, the disparity is just too much in performance considering the max resolution achievable on each (12.. Something p on ps5, compared to 4k on series x)..
"Texture resolution is lowered around the garden" 💀😂😂
I didn't know people played games for shadows lol
They do when you're the kind of person to battle over your favorite plastic box.
Lets not get this twisted. Shadows are important. They can straight up ruin your game if none are there. Especially without good ambient occlusion.
the online aspect is broken cant even play or host to invite my xbox friends to join me.And NO my connection is fine im on a wired connection for my ps5
this was such a fun game on pc
I would've loved in the review the inclusion of base building, hosted by a person further into the game, but i know crossplay wasn't operative on switch for the first week or so, so i understand the omission. Knowing if the switch can handle the huge base i builded on 300+ hours on PC would be kind of decisive. I know Nintendo has other plans for unveiling the next console, but at this point it would be nice to know at least if the switch library will be compatible, so these last few struggling titles can get a second life whenever they launch, in six months or a year from now i guess.
Alex couldn't wait to do this one lol!
Survival games feel like work.
When df will review ark survival ascended?
The Switch 2 should have came out this year.
Differing shadows in hi-fi rush, likenits a big issue 😂
Steam Deck verified ✅
Switch graphics being a ps3 pro, it's doing fairly well 🤔
This will probably be the last major port to Switch that I'll be impressed by. I've been enjoying it on my Switch in handheld and my PS5 on the big screen but the Switch is really showing its' age on this one. Isn't the Tegra X2 from like 2012 or 2013 or something? I'm amazed at some of these ports but it's starting to get hard to excuse the resolution drops. It gets pretty silly when we are throttling back the resolution to 360p on a 720p OLED. I can handle like 600p or even 540 or something in that range but it's a struggle even in handheld. I'm still very impressed by the Grounded port for switch, don't get me wrong. Hope to see the Switch 2/Super Switch/Switch Pro or whatever Nintendo calls it next year. It's more than time for it.
Did you turn off depth of field blur when playing on PS5?
Grounded is a fantastic game. If you haven't played it and only own a PS5 or Switch, definitely grab it!
A very strange one here. The performance on ps5 doesn't make sense. Hopefully they can patch the game to be smoother.
Remembers old times when each version was visible different.
Wasn’t there a game similar to this on the Mac? The character is like a caveman or something
man the ps 5 frame rate is messed up .
yeah weird
I had to double check my resolution set for this video. My god does switch look so blurry.
Bit unfair to compare the poor switch to running on next-gen consoles. They should have compared to the XOne version.
All Switch games are blurry
Switch 2 will double that 360p.
@@summus314yeah UE4 games were quite the mixed bag on xbox one running at 720p or 900p
Well yeah it's the switch🤨
The lead is platform does better. Shocking.
Is this game good?
Very good.
Fantastic
Better than any Nintendo or PlayStation exclusive
A snooze. Made for children
@@jcdenton41100 You do know we can see youre a parody account right?
Damn, so not properly prepared for PS5. That sucks.
There is a ps4 version right?
How they not gonna mention the obvious, "a bugs life" movie
You’re grounded, Grounded
Caillou you are so grounded grounded grounded
So... halfway in and I still don't know what this guy is saying as in should I buy
Wrong channel for that... Those are more traditional reviews this is tech review. Not a lot of people split those
@@XZ-III ah...appreciate that info
I wonder how a modded switch with overclock could help this game.
SteamDeck?
@@ThinkTinkh Idk why but on the steam deck the performance is terrible.
@@unlimitedslash it all depends on expectations I think 🤔
@@ThinkTinkh nah, low settings 720p with fsr on performance, gpu setup at max clocks and no W limiter, was getting a crappy 25ish fps, maybe indoors in some dungeons i would see maybe 40fps tops, but it was unstable, terrible experience, maybe it's due to proton incompatibilities or something, should try it no with the newer versions.
@@unlimitedslash which game?
Obsidian removed the HDR-Support of this game.
looks like switch port is decent
Running at low resolution and dropping frames on PS5 the developers either didn't care or it was done on purpose.
More than likely just didn’t care. Keep in mind they left the 120 FPS mode bug in Pentiment for a year and only fixed it when it was released multiplat, so they likely just didn’t care.
I wish devs would iron out preformance THEN push it to the best resolution they can. I feel like resolution is always king over performance and I don’t get it, I would take 1080 with a mostly locked frame rate any day,
I use a 1440p monitor for series x so I guess it’s a bit different than Playing on a 60 inch tv or whatever, then again what do I know.
Bad fps and res? Bad port
It is funny. This and Pikmin 4 are fresh in my mind and yeah… Pikmin 4 looks a lot better to me.
I'm pretty surprised by the Ps5 version. I think it should be able to run in complete parity with the series X. As for the switch version, yeah, it loses a lot in the translation, BUT, you can take it on the go which this kind of game is made for.
Well actually the series x should always have a higher res-bigger GPU
Given the context of what’s available in the game though, nothing screams pushing to the hardwares limits though. The really bad fps struggles definitely shouldn’t be a thing.
It’s a lazy port just like those pc ports that shouldn’t have bad performance but they do, it the same thing there nothing visually impressive with this game
Its honestly pretty bad either the xbox and or the ps5 dont run this at 4k60. Its visually appealing, but not technically that impressive.
360p - 600p at 30FPS....... how do Switch players do it?
Meanwhile fanboi developer be like, we can't make games for series S, it's too limiting. But releases game on switch and ps4
I would like Stem Deck to be added to these comparisons. Switch becomes the "handheld" analogue. But I think you can have better handheld experiences. Why Steam Deck and not another hand held pc? Because it's basically the only one that is a "console". A OS and set HW level that creates a whole.
I agree, however, Switch is actually the most popular console, selling almost double the Xbox Series and PS5 combined. So, naturally they're going to use it as a comparison. I'd much rather see them review more powerful handhelds though like Steam Deck and ROG Ally.
yeah but its not a "console" its a hand held PC where you can change the settings you cant do that with consoles so this becomes null. steam deck is it's own with better comparisons with other pc hardware. But it's whatever
No PS4 comparison?
It's good to see PS users enjoying Xbox games so much. This is a great game.
Love you DF glad I didnt pre ordered it on PS5
Damn the cut backs on Switch are far more severe than I thought.
I mean it is a switch. lol
It is a 7-year old handheld console. Can't expect too much.
Tegra X1 is almost 10 years old, it's not that surprising
Give the devs a break. It is 5W vs 200w Afterall
4 Watts vs 80 Watts bro. You can't expect the same quality
Played this the other day, on a 3600 and 5700xt. Struggled to get over 50fps even with lowest settings and max FSR at 1440p. That and the messy Ui was an easy uninstall.