Why should Christianity deserve to be portrayed positively? The crimes committed by Christians (crusades, inquisition, sexual abuse...) cannot be counted.
The actor playing the roman saying "no water for him" was amazing as he acted with just his expression and we saw him go through anger, confusion, and finally shame.
@RSTI191 It's up to everyone to make themselves the human being they want to be. It takes much less energy to be kind than cruel. You don't have to be religious to make the change.
@RSTI191 Good for you for believing that. So it's even MORE imperative that you be good for goodness sake when it comes to the way we treat each other. Thank you for illustrating my point exactly.
I watched this movie as a child and this scene stayed with me all my life. What a powerful representation of Jesus and his love. Let all who thirst come to the water.
His name was Remington Olmsted. So there we have it: Remington Olmsted, actor, singer, dancer, football star, restaurateur, Americna in Rome. He pass way in 2002 in Roma City.
This is to date my favourite depiction of Jesus in any form of media. Faceless kindness and doing good in the presence of evil without expectation of reward.
Every time I see this scene I lose it. Our Heavenly Father gives water to a thirsty man in the face of the Romans and making the Centurion back off without a word is so powerful. Jesus literally put the fear of God into the Centurion's heart.
I had seen clips of the more iconic chariot scenes when I was younger. Now at the age of 52 I sat down and watched the whole movie last year. I have to say this is the greatest movie I have ever seen!
Saw it when it was released in '59(I was 5 yrs old),then saw re-release in theater 2:32 2:32 a few years ago. Incomparable film in every way. Stands the test of time for sure.
This makes me cry almost as much as reading the gospel account of Jesus healing the woman with the issue of blood - in my darkest days all i had strength to do was desperately hang onto the hem of His garment - in our desperation and weakness our Lord comes to bear us up when life is difficult- He is always with us ✝️
It's a quite a remarkable piece of acting done by the man playing the centurion that his reaction to seeing the God in the face and actions of another man makes him question his entire life and wonder whether he has been a good person or not. We see someone's reflection on their life and judgement of themselves all in under the space of a minute.
I saw this as a child and it MOVED me so emotionally I never forgot it. Jesus be praised. I want to follow him all the days of my life. I still become tearful at the high emotion of this scene.
One of my favorite movies. The scenes with Jesus Christ impacted my life even though they never showed his face you knew it was him and it was better that way because you can imagine what he looked like and no actor could do that part
In fact it must have also given him the strength to resist for 5 years on ships as an oarsman. The average life expectancy of a slave oarsman was 2 maximum 3 years. Furthermore, he is the only oarsman who is not tied to stocks when they fight, another sign of God's intervention, which saves him from shipwreck.
Yes, but why won’t He return and save us from the insanity of humanity. Was not his sacrifice enough to wash us clean of sin? Why do we need the coming Apocalypse? I am very confused and fearful.
A very compelling, intense, and pivotal point in the movie. Listen to how the music changes after Christ gave him water. Plenty of emotion there, pls the look in Hur's face said it all. Direction, editing, and soundtrack at its' best.
What I find marvelous is that Ben-Hur's hand rises up before his head does. Like his spirit reacts to the touch before his mind does. It is a brilliant scene.
Yes, I agree. When you stare into the face of God, you stare into the face of Truth. Truth reflects back who you really are. Only a depraved maniac could deny the True reflection of what one is. Jesus did not have to reply to Pontius Pilate, Jesus only had to reflect back to Pontius Pilate who Pilate really was.
as a young teen this was my fave clip of Ben H when the centurian looked into JC face and that look of shame, sin realization that seemed to go through his being as he stood in front of the one who knew no sin.👍
……in his autobiography, ‘In the Arena’, Mr Heston said if anybody was up to hijinks on set, the person would be addressed in a very stern voice, ‘no water for HIM’………
Makes me cry everytime... Jesus, the name above all names, God incarnate , offers life, where we thirst no more.... The Power, The Majesty of this simple scene is INCREDIBLE 😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is one of those few cinematic moments that I keep very close to my heart. This is a type of scene whose success or failure relies almost completely on self restraint . The fact that it is so perfectly handled makes it all the more admirable. The look on that Centurion's face....the honesty of that reaction is profoundly moving. I can scarcely think of another example of so much being said in so few words.
Benhur is one of the greatest classic movie - theme wise, cinematography, Arab desert scenes and mind blowing chariot race. Film to remember and see again and again.
When you call for Him, He will come in, like a cooling shade in the heat of the day, and provide the refreshing water of life....Jesus and water go together for a reason, they are both life saving. ✝️
😂 I saw this scene on the Simpsons (film festival episode), on Mr. Burns' movie. Ben says to Burns, "you truly are the king of kings". I never saw the actual film.
One of the best scenes of the motion picture. The Roman starts towards Jesus who gave water to a man he wanted to kill of thirst, and Christ looks into his eyes and overpowers him. The way the Roman looks when Jesus looks at him, is very enlightening. He was humbled by Jesus.
Si amas y confias en Dios siempre estara cuando le necesites lo digo por experiencia me salvo la vida de una muerte segura fue algo extraordinario saludos
That costume mr Heston is wearing was purchased by me at auction back in 1995. It was distressed as shown purposely and and comes with a western costume label with Heston name on the label. I sold it in 2008 much to my regret. And as an added note. If I had to chose a role aside from the main characters I would have chosen the role of the centurion that says’ no water for him’ he is now immortalized with that role.
“One day I came to Him, I was so thirsty. I asked for water, my throat was so dry. He gave me water that I had never dreamed of. But for this water, my Lord had to die. He said: “I thirst”, yet He made the rivers. He said: “I thirst”, yet He made the sea. “I thirst,” said the King of the ages. In His great thirst He brought water to me.
The look of Jesus's face stopped the roman soldier in his place when he was about to use his whip. It was as if he saw Jesus's authority, love and kindness. Jesus must have thought...I will be whipped later, and scourged, beaten, nailed, spit upon, mocked and hated...even for you Roman soldier. And even for me also although I don't understand exactly why. Thank you Lord.
You say these things aren't true and calling believers stupid meaning only your opinion matters. However there are countless stories and miracles proving God and his Son Jesus exist. I only hope you realize this and come to your senses before it's too late.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary. 2: Believers I’ve spoken to in debates have said the most stupid things that make them stupid. That’s not my opinion, it’s a fact. I had a conversation with a theist once who believes the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol 3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late” I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion. But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary. 2: Believers I’ve spoken to in debates have said the most stupid things that make them stupid. That’s not my opinion, it’s a fact. I had a conversation with a theist once who believes the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol 3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late” I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion. But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary. 2: Believers I’ve spoken to in debates have said the most daft things that make them daft. That’s not my opinion, it’s a fact. I had a conversation with a theist once who believes the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol 3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late” I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion. But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary. 2: I’ve had conversations with theists who believe the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol 😂 If that’s not stupid then nothing is. 3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late” I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion. But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
Given the blasphemy and idolitry , white Christian nationalism......this scene is what they shoukd watch..it encapsulates the point of jesus...he walked and administered amoung the poor , the oppressed....love and compassion.
I KNOW it’s just stupid hollywood film making. They crafted the music to cause a reaction. They’ve written the script to guide our reaction in a certain direction… But this scene is almost spiritual.
I love how the power of God humbled the centurion!
was it the energy or the face
@@rajendrabiswas: Jesus read his heart and passed judgment accordingly and fed it back to him!
Hollywood will never again make such a powerful picture displaying Christianity in a positive light.
because is rotting even the children with the actual media
I agree.
Why should Christianity deserve to be portrayed positively? The crimes committed by Christians (crusades, inquisition, sexual abuse...) cannot be counted.
The actor playing the roman saying "no water for him" was amazing as he acted with just his expression and we saw him go through anger, confusion, and finally shame.
The actor playing the guard was the brilliantly named Remington Olmsted.
Christ knew what was in that centurion's heart beforehand. Only the Son of God has that ability.
@@user-lw9ld9ze7pI guess Christ knew it was a movie too? LOL.
in my opinion one of the most powerful scenes in motion picture history
Indeed - it’s stuck with me for more than 50 years…
Indeed.
Amen! Perhaps the most powerful scene.
You have obviously never seen the Three Amigos.
Yall must be 90+
A faceless Jesus, leading by kindness, in defiance of cruelty and tyranny. This is how we should all be to each other. ❤
“Except to illegal immigrants, they shall be pushed back from whence they came” - Jesus, probably
Too bad nature doesn't work that way..
@RSTI191 It's up to everyone to make themselves the human being they want to be. It takes much less energy to be kind than cruel. You don't have to be religious to make the change.
@@jackcrow3477
Religion is the shadow cast by the arrogance of humanity and is the apex of human folly and of human conceits
No 2 ways around it..
@RSTI191 Good for you for believing that. So it's even MORE imperative that you be good for goodness sake when it comes to the way we treat each other.
Thank you for illustrating my point exactly.
I watched this movie as a child and this scene stayed with me all my life. What a powerful representation of Jesus and his love. Let all who thirst come to the water.
same here as a young teen.
Me too. Amazing scene.
The actor who played the Roman Guard did a great job imo.
totally agree. NM
I wonder who was that actor... He did a great job portraying senseless cruelty..
I heard in an interview he was a stage hand
His name was Remington Olmsted. So there we have it: Remington Olmsted, actor, singer, dancer, football star, restaurateur, Americna in Rome. He pass way in 2002 in Roma City.
@@cellonoxius1Thanks.. he was great.. he was perfect for that role..
Bro thought he was a king until he met with King❤😳❤
This is one of the best movies of all time. God does this... He shows up in our lives and we don't even realize it.
Mostly to kick us when we're down 😘
@@tandemfandom1 That has not been my experience.
You're right. He's in Moscow right now having a meeting with Putin.
That is why he work's in mysterious ways.
Amen brother
The movie refers back to this when Judah sees Jesus bearing the cross. "That man gave me water!" This is the strongest scene in the film.
This is to date my favourite depiction of Jesus in any form of media. Faceless kindness and doing good in the presence of evil without expectation of reward.
❤
It's only a good scene of a movie.
Every time I see this scene I lose it. Our Heavenly Father gives water to a thirsty man in the face of the Romans and making the Centurion back off without a word is so powerful. Jesus literally put the fear of God into the Centurion's heart.
I had seen clips of the more iconic chariot scenes when I was younger. Now at the age of 52 I sat down and watched the whole movie last year.
I have to say this is the greatest movie I have ever seen!
Saw it when it was released in '59(I was 5 yrs old),then saw re-release in theater 2:32 2:32 a few years ago. Incomparable film in every way. Stands the test of time for sure.
One hell of a movie- and one hell of an actor 👏
Charlton Heston was great.
Oh, what a scene !!! ❤ He said 'God help me' and God himself came to help him !!! Thumbs up to the guy who played the centurion !!!
Even Heston praised the actor for that seen.
JESUS was sent by God to help every man but he isnt God
@@mightymikec7 Ever heard about The Holy Trinity ???
@@luishumbertovega3900 yeah and?
@@mightymikec7 Good ,! 😁
This makes me cry almost as much as reading the gospel account of Jesus healing the woman with the issue of blood - in my darkest days all i had strength to do was desperately hang onto the hem of His garment - in our desperation and weakness our Lord comes to bear us up when life is difficult- He is always with us ✝️
Watch that account on "The Chosen". I guarantee tears.
I agree. It’s the first time he sees Jesus. Can you imagine? One day it will happen.Thank you God. ♥️🙏🏻🙏🏿🙏🏾🙏🏽🙏🏼♥️
Amém........❤
We will all get to see him at some point.
It's a quite a remarkable piece of acting done by the man playing the centurion that his reaction to seeing the God in the face and actions of another man makes him question his entire life and wonder whether he has been a good person or not. We see someone's reflection on their life and judgement of themselves all in under the space of a minute.
I saw this as a child and it MOVED me so emotionally I never forgot it. Jesus be praised. I want to follow him all the days of my life. I still become tearful at the high emotion of this scene.
Sends chills down my spine still..
One of my favorite movies. The scenes with Jesus Christ impacted my life even though they never showed his face you knew it was him and it was better that way because you can imagine what he looked like and no actor could do that part
You don't mess with JC.
You truly are the king of Kings
Excellent...
😂
Imagine the King of the Universe giving you water like that…
In fact it must have also given him the strength to resist for 5 years on ships as an oarsman. The average life expectancy of a slave oarsman was 2 maximum 3 years. Furthermore, he is the only oarsman who is not tied to stocks when they fight, another sign of God's intervention, which saves him from shipwreck.
Charlton seemed to always get the best roles of a thirsty hero😏
It's a great movie forever... No words, it worth those Oscar awards it won.
Oh goosebumps goosebumps goosebumps one of my favorite movies of all time and also the musical score nothing but WOW
A great movie.
Jesus, we love you.
Yes, but why won’t He return and save us from the insanity of humanity. Was not his sacrifice enough to wash us clean of sin?
Why do we need the coming Apocalypse?
I am very confused and fearful.
❤love the movie of Ben Hur with Charleston Heston! Pure classic
A very compelling, intense, and pivotal point in the movie. Listen to how the music changes after Christ gave him water. Plenty of emotion there, pls the look in Hur's face said it all. Direction, editing, and soundtrack at its' best.
What I find marvelous is that Ben-Hur's hand rises up before his head does. Like his spirit reacts to the touch before his mind does. It is a brilliant scene.
This movie made me cry
When the Soldier yells at God n gets closer he's speechless!!! That was n is a priceless moment!!
"these aren't the droids you're looking for" moment
@@jc4388
Never said I did!!!
Not 'God'.
The 'Son of God'.
Big Difference.
Oh He is God allright.
@@henrikgustafsson6385
I stand corrected by someone who pointed it out, he's the Son of GOD, but GOD NEVER the less!!!
The most powerful scene of that movie. He is Lord!
It’s a movie, son. They’re actors following a script.
We know,but it's still impressive
@@yulai8248 It’s hilarious.
that was not just water but divine energy drink
Love is patient , love is kind. On full display here.
It always made me wonder if the soldier saw himself as Jesus saw him and that's why he backed down.
Yes, I agree. When you stare into the face of God, you stare into the face of Truth. Truth reflects back who you really are. Only a depraved maniac could deny the True reflection of what one is. Jesus did not have to reply to Pontius Pilate, Jesus only had to reflect back to Pontius Pilate who Pilate really was.
You don’t have to be religious to be moved by this movie. What an absolute masterpiece it is.
the force is strong with this one.
as a young teen this was my fave clip of Ben H when the centurian looked into JC face and that look of shame, sin realization that seemed to go through his being as he stood in front of the one who knew no sin.👍
……in his autobiography, ‘In the Arena’, Mr Heston said if anybody was up to hijinks on set, the person would be addressed in a very stern voice, ‘no water for HIM’………
One of my favorite scenes in any movie portraying the look of God what will you do when he looks at you?
One of the best movies scenes ever!
Great movie.
Water sustains life, And Jesus gave us life ❤
It is great how Jesus gives him water to drink and strokes his head. This scene is so lovingly done.
Makes me cry everytime... Jesus, the name above all names, God incarnate , offers life, where we thirst no more.... The Power, The Majesty of this simple scene is INCREDIBLE 😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
If, God's son gives you water to drink. You know things are going to be alright.✝
Well said
Not so much for jesus. He gets horrifically tortured and crucified but it's okay because he comes back the same way a zombie would.
Wounderful !!
This is my favorite scene in a Fabulous movie.
This scene always made me cry when I was younger. Actually misting up right now...
My all time favorite movie.. Ben Hur...
This is one of those few cinematic moments that I keep very close to my heart. This is a type of scene whose success or failure relies almost completely on self restraint . The fact that it is so perfectly handled makes it all the more admirable. The look on that Centurion's face....the honesty of that reaction is profoundly moving. I can scarcely think of another example of so much being said in so few words.
Great scene!
Thanks Gary. 😢 This was the best thing to see today. Mercy.
That soldier was seeing all his sins in the face of Jesus.
Y asi vino Él muchas veces y me curo y me dió de beber...
gloria a Dios
Reminds me of that scene from ‘A Burns for all Seasons’.
best scene of that movie...
I watched the movie 100 times and I just like to say masala got exactly what he had coming.
Between this and the famous line in Seinfeld, " ...no soup for you. " gets in my soul everytime.
God said: YES, THERE IS A WATER FOR HIM! HIS WORD IS THE LAST.
The most great movie of all times,thank's God
Benhur is one of the greatest classic movie - theme wise, cinematography, Arab desert scenes and mind blowing chariot race. Film to remember and see again and again.
Grande filme já assisti muitas vezes e não me canço continuou sempre
When you call for Him, He will come in, like a cooling shade in the heat of the day, and provide the refreshing water of life....Jesus and water go together for a reason, they are both life saving. ✝️
😂 I saw this scene on the Simpsons (film festival episode), on Mr. Burns' movie. Ben says to Burns, "you truly are the king of kings". I never saw the actual film.
One of the best scenes of the motion picture. The Roman starts towards Jesus who gave water to a man he wanted to kill of thirst, and Christ looks into his eyes and overpowers him. The way the Roman looks when Jesus looks at him, is very enlightening. He was humbled by Jesus.
Extraordinaria película
The guy who played the centurion should have received an oscar for those 10 seconds...😢
Una joya clásica del 🎞️🎥
Si amas y confias en Dios siempre estara cuando le necesites lo digo por experiencia me salvo la vida de una muerte segura fue algo extraordinario saludos
This is the greatest scene ever
That costume mr Heston is wearing was purchased by me at auction back in 1995. It was distressed as shown purposely and and comes with a western costume label with Heston name on the label. I sold it in 2008 much to my regret. And as an added note. If I had to chose a role aside from the main characters I would have chosen the role of the centurion that says’ no water for him’ he is now immortalized with that role.
Filme espetacular. Inesquecível.
Beautiful, some random guy helped him and the centurion had enough self reflection to feel ashamed.
I love that scene.
When The Big JC stood up the centurion was like, nah, I don't want any of this.
Speechless...
Judah Ben Hur knew who he was. And so did the Roman’s. That’s why they knew they couldn’t do anything about it
I.O.U. Jesus. Thank You, God. From the Bottom of My Heart, Amen.
Iconic scene, IS a great lesson...
"No water for him!" The ancient equivalent to "No soup for you!!" 😁
“One day I came to Him, I was so thirsty. I asked for water, my throat was so dry. He gave me water that I had never dreamed of. But for this water, my Lord had to die. He said: “I thirst”, yet He made the rivers. He said: “I thirst”, yet He made the sea. “I thirst,” said the King of the ages. In His great thirst He brought water to me.
O melhor filme que assisti.Saudades.
powerful movie
Epic movie
The shame on the face of the Roman.
That slightly ashamed facial expression of the Roman captain.
Pranaam🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
They just can't make films like this anymore.
An oscar for the Roman soldier!
The look of Jesus's face stopped the roman soldier in his place when he was about to use his whip. It was as if he saw Jesus's authority, love and kindness. Jesus must have thought...I will be whipped later, and scourged, beaten, nailed, spit upon, mocked and hated...even for you Roman soldier. And even for me also although I don't understand exactly why. Thank you Lord.
This beautiful scene applies to billion of people who ask God for help .
ชอบหนัง BEN HUR. มากก สร้างกี่ครั้ง ดูทุกคร้ง
I’m not a religious person and I often detest theists for their stupidity in believing things that are not true.
But I do enjoy this scene.
You say these things aren't true and calling believers stupid meaning only your opinion matters. However there are countless stories and miracles proving God and his Son Jesus exist. I only hope you realize this and come to your senses before it's too late.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary.
2: Believers I’ve spoken to in debates have said the most stupid things that make them stupid. That’s not my opinion, it’s a fact. I had a conversation with a theist once who believes the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol
3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late”
I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion.
But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary.
2: Believers I’ve spoken to in debates have said the most stupid things that make them stupid. That’s not my opinion, it’s a fact. I had a conversation with a theist once who believes the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol
3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late”
I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion.
But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary.
2: Believers I’ve spoken to in debates have said the most daft things that make them daft. That’s not my opinion, it’s a fact. I had a conversation with a theist once who believes the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol
3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late”
I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion.
But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
@@Rockhound6165 1: These things aren’t true because they’ve never been proven to be true and come off as made up and imaginary.
2: I’ve had conversations with theists who believe the earth is only 8 thousand years old and that human beings were once 30 foot tall giants that got smaller in that time. Lol 😂
If that’s not stupid then nothing is.
3: Tall tales of miracles without any evidence to prove that they happened does not count as proof. So you’ll have to do better than that if you want me to “come to my senses before it’s too late”
I didn’t come here to have another pointless debate with believers, I simply said I enjoy this scene despite my distaste for religion.
But if you wanna do this then the burden of proof is on you since you believe in the god claim. So go on, give us some evidence here and now.
Given the blasphemy and idolitry , white Christian nationalism......this scene is what they shoukd watch..it encapsulates the point of jesus...he walked and administered amoung the poor , the oppressed....love and compassion.
Did the preist take you behind the santuary too often?
Indeed ❤
Praise him
I KNOW it’s just stupid hollywood film making. They crafted the music to cause a reaction. They’ve written the script to guide our reaction in a certain direction…
But this scene is almost spiritual.
Lo impresionó sin decir una sola palabra