I am stunned by how much attention this has gotten, thank you to everyone who watched it and left a nice comment, I sincerely appreciate it. If the interest is there, I'll gladly do more content like this
I'm honestly super glad your video hit the algorithm. You've always had a good voice for essay style videos, and for someone who gathered their audience through RotMG get the attention on a completely different topic is very rare, but you fully deserve it!
You mentioned that doubling the speed cap wouldn't work well for the set design, but what about something "smaller?" As an example, if the normal cap is (number from a hat) 10,000 voxels/second, upping it to 12,000? And what if, during in a scripted scene, it increases to 15,000? You also mentioned having a problem with the drain on power meter during scripted scenes; what if the rate of loss was halved during a scripted scene? Just some thinking aloud :D
I love seeing you win man. I actually discovered your channel through that Megaman and Roll video and I'm really impressed with the quality. Wishing your channel an immense amount of success in the future 🙏🏾
Im with you on this as well my friend. But the one thing i know that can get the game in a better situation with better development without the idiots of 4kids and 4kids itself...time travel! Think of it, we can prevent not only 4kids from existing and having the origanl cast replace but we can also get sonic 06 with the same people who did adventures 1 and 2 to a remarkable game but maybe also get a better design for silver(hes look is ok but he get get more quills and do speed and homing attack together. He can still his psycho powers, just deserve the same thing as both hedgehogs) what do you think?
Fun fact: the original loading times are entirely due to the game reading the load file in its ENTIRETY to find the level it's supposed to load, that's one singular lua file for the entire game's level loading
@@hoffer_moment I think what they mean is that the game looks at every single file for maps in the game to load each section, meaning to load Shadow's Crisis City, it looks at the files for Sonic's Wave Ocean, Silver's Kingdom Valley, etc until it finds Shadow's version of Crisis City specifically
@@hoffer_moment I guess like it for example loads Wave Ocean in its entirety before it checks if that's the right map to load, and if it's not it completely unloads it and rinse and repeat until correct map is loaded. I dont fully understand how that works either but I would assume that's what is happening, hence it taking forever for the loading screen to fade
@@hoffer_moment ok so Sonic 06 as you are probably aware utilizes compiled Lua scripts called lub files, in the folder responsible for telling the game how to load in those files is a singular file called stageselect.lub this file is literally the only method the game has for reading each and every stage, mission, and boss in the game, there's over 3000 lines of scripting in there. 3631 to be exact and yes this is for literally every single character, you'd think they'd have it separated out by Sonic, Shadow, Silver, and Final but nope you can attribute the long load times to this file directly as it has to read through each line of script to find the stage it's looking for that matches whatever stage code was triggered in the adventure stage and then load in the assets, make you wait for it to play a short cutscene, then look in that lub file AGAIN to find the actual stage assets.
@@hoffer_moment it's not string matching it's a script run by a not very well optimized interpreter, plus the files themselves are put into archives, with a lot of stuff put into generic archives making them unnecessarily big
Really glad you enjoyed the game! Love videos like these, a very good one too, I'll make sure to keep some of the points of critique noted down and see what I can do to improve the game later on, thank you for taking the time to talk about the project! 🙏
You’re doing the lord’s work. Everything I see about this looks so damn promising. The only way I could get any more impressed would be if you could somehow make the story less crap. I don’t know if that’s even possible, but I’m convinced you guys are wizards at this point so who knows.
The fact that fans are remaking what's considered to be the worst Sonic Game in the entire franchise really goes out to show how much potential the game had.
@@narobii9815 Free Riders was the one on connect and is the third Riders game although most people pretend it doesn’t exist. Sonic Riders was on gamecube and other platforms and Zero Gravity was on Wii and other platforms. Zero Gravity wasn’t good either but it wasn’t unplayable like Free Riders.
How the actual hell has ChaosX never played Sonic 06, doesn't personally want a career in video game creating, and yet they were able to make this absolutely amazing remaster? Truly incredible.
@@404waffles I'm not saying either is bad. I'm just saying their skill and passion for the project is impressive considering it isn't a career or even a game they are personally invested in.
@@kirin1230 the issue is, if their entire career was game design, they'd no longer have a passion for it. most game companies just chew up passionate developers, break them, and spit them back out.
I noticed that there was a color change to Shadow’s UI (the display that shows score, time, ring count, lives) where in the retail version, all the characters have the same color but Shadow has a Dark Red style. I hope that eventually Silver and maybe even the other characters gets their own.
Yeah Silver is getting one too. These alternate HUD gradients were actually in the original game's files, but went unused for some reason, so they've been restored for P06.
I grew up with the 2006 version and now i feel nothing but nostalgia when i see the remastered footage…. My favourite part about 2006 was the theme songs that accompanied each stage and managed to convince my cousin to play “My destiny” (the credits song) for his wedding…. So fitting
@@PreciousCosmos Holy shit. Bring back the Chao Gardens. They were the biggest incentive I've ever seen in a Sonic game. Those little babies made me so happy ❤️
@@PreciousCosmos Merging Chao gardens into 06's giant obnoxious hub worlds to give them some more value is legit one of the best ideas I've ever seen for improving a Sonic game.
y'know, as a veteran of the franchise, i absolutely took a lot of these changes for granted and it never really occurred to me that the score system was something someone would play around, to me it's always been "this is a sonic game, so get from point A to point B in the fastest time possible" and that's how i always enjoyed it. the new scoring just landed as a "oh hey that's a nice nod to SA2" feels really refreshing to see someone else take an entirely different approach to it than i ever would, great vid man
This game is the first game where I actually focused on the scores similar to him because if you get an S rank on every stage you get super sonic and Inhibitor ring shadow, at first I just tried to speed run it and realized that speed is Probably the least important score So I had to reply the levels with one trying not to be hit at all since rings give you a huge bonus and then trying to kill every enemy in a chain to up my score, I replayed the levels so many times but it was so fun, especially for sonic the Mach speed sections messed up my perfect no hit so many times but I kept grinding to up my score and super sonic and inhibitors ring shadow was soooo worth it, S ranks in other games don’t give u anything worth it fr
@@dantemitsoyu977 P-06 unironically taught me the joys of trial and error (Mainly due to the reward of Super Sonic and Inhibitor Shadow lol). The feeling of finally crushing your frustration and passing through the level with clear ease and gaining an S rank opened my mind to a whole new world. I had always played most Sonic Games with the goal of "Speed through level, win, gg" (Aside from 3&K, the hyper emeralds and Doomsday Zone were extremely rewarding), but now I've learned to appreciate exploration and finding new paths to perfect in my other past favorite sonic games
I nearly blinked for a second and I just saw that fucker just had a seizure across the screen then exploded. bickuribox12 didn't even acknowledged it which makes it even funnier!
This was a fantastic breakdown of P-06 and I was really impressed by your narration, writing and editing here. I could feel how passionate you were about this project and I absolutely loved that. When you said you were torn between who was most fun to play, it really sunk in just how much ChaosX has blown the original game out of the water. Great video!
@Liam Triforce I recently watched your Twilight princess video(it was really good; currently been playing a randomizer of it on my channel and almost done reaching all of the manga for it(volume 10 is expected to come out later this year)
I really love how Shadow's gameplay was tweaked, it's like this odd combination of Tony Hawk and Devil May Cry, where you need to balance interaction with the environment as well as planning how to deal with hordes of enemies. I can only imagine the combo potential if he were to get his guns back.
The interesting part about this project, the fact that they CAN add new areas that didn't exist before does suggest that maybe, just maybe could potentially overhaul the entire levels instead. That's probably for the modders tho.
@@bunsmasterbunny eh there's a bunch Mainly blaze and her literal non interaction with anyone who isn't silver Because that's real, she doesn't speak to anyone who isn't silver Also how multiple characters can just _do_ things that they shouldn't know how to do
"Mid Air Control In Mach Speed Sections" I'm literally sat here chopping up the VoDs of a recent '06 stream and the sheer amount of deaths due to not being able to turn mid-air is soul-rending. ...looking at you Fire Tornado segment. Randomised debris was great. Collision/damage on that randomised debris was a bold move. But then ON TOP of that to throw in mandatory jumps with no mid air turning is a recipe for flinging yourself to death. Often it's either turn to avoid debris, jump over obstacle and risk death from a wrong angle fling. Or don't turn / try to course correct beforehand and risk death from getting 1-2-combo'd by sudden extra debris, the wonky obstacle hitbox, or both. God bless you ChaosX
But... think about it. Sonic 06 wouldn't be named "Sonic 06" if it was actually good. It'd still be called Sonic Next Gen by fans like it was originally back in 2005/06. P-06 deserves the "Sonic Next Gen" title
I think when Sonic Adventure tapped into that Tony Hawk mindset of "trick off this rail, flip off this pole, chain these together" it's one of the subtler things those games did that really had a cool flow and feeling to it, especially if you tied it into speedrunning a level like the Metal Harbor A-Rank (minus the obscene difficulty involved with that example). To see the P-06 demos tap into that again for a game that almost feels like it was designed for it but didn't quite reach it is pretty awesome to see.
Ah heck man, you're reminding me of the pursuit of absolute perfection in Metal Harbor me and my buddies did back in college. We had an ongoing pair of competitions -- who could get the highest score, but also who could get the *lowest* score in a run. It was some of the most fun I'd ever had in a game. Can't believe that was almost 15 years ago now; thanks for the nostalgia.
Great video! One thing I should mention about the rail speed, in 2005's Shadow the Hedgehog, if you press the X button (on Gamecube) when you "dance", you'll get a speed boost. If you mash it, you can reach really ridiculous speeds! I never liked the balancing mechanic from Adventure 2 & Heroes since I would always lock up even though I was turning in the right direction (might just be my problem and not the game's fault). The grinding mechanics from Shadow's game feels like a nice balance between 06 & Adventure 2's grinding so that's why I brought it up.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 I remembered Heroes grinding to be janky af. Especially when switching from rail to rail. I’ve had PLENTY of deaths result from that.
@@HelperUnknownGB It's more inconsistent when balancing to speed up, and it's hard to tell if you're doing it right since the difference isn't as pronounced.
Sad, but true... The funniest part is, despite them primarily making Sonic games as cash grabs nowadays, all they end up doing is hurting their own sales with this crap.
I genuinely find myself coming back to this video literally every single night for about a month now (kinda became my nightly routine), and it never ceases to entertain me. The structure is so good, whenever I click on the video I HAVE to see it in its entirety, the review is really well thought out the jokes never feel out of place, in fact they always make me laugh rewatch upon rewatch despite knowing them by heart now, what can I say, you're just one hell of a good reviewer honestly. And let's not kid ourselves here, this is the video that made me interested in your channel, and discovering your past reviews this past month to going all the way back here, man I genuinely think you've just outdone yourself, you've improved so much and still are improving it's amazing. Anyways, I truly don't know if you'll see this or not but I had to comment because dammit I adore your way writing 👌 Peace, and take care.
Sonic Colours Ultimate: Tails is not playable but can be used as a checkpoint/respawn... thing. Sonic P-06: Tails is still playable and can use his Sonic Adventure tail swipe attack both on the ground and in the air. I'll take 10 of P-06!
@@orlandofurioso7329 He was replaced for the Hover Wisp. Because who needs Tails when you can have his function in a Wisp. However, for all I said about Tails should have been playable in Colours Ultimate, considering that regular moves you took for granted with Sonic get locked behind Wisps - like Boosting or the Light Speed Dash - it would no doubt be the same for Tails, or any other characters who would have been playable... You want to fly as Tails? Well You better have the right Wisp for that. You want to climb walls as Knuckles, but don't have the proper Wisps, too bad! Smash things with Amy's hammer, Wisp please. Use Blaze's fire abilities, Wisp. And so on... So basically his moveset would also have to be gimped, like Sonic's, to make the Wisps work, so he too can become a Jack of all trades and a master of stop and go gameplay. Plus it'd be exactly the same for everyone else so long as the Wisps continue to infest Sonic's world, despite the fact that, unlike the Chao, they have zero narrative reason for being there. I do hope Tails and the others are playable in Frontiers, as its been 15 years since 06, which was his last playable appearance in a mainline 3D game, and I do believe we've more than exhausted things from both a gameplay and narrative sense where Sonic is the only person who can actually do anything.
@@orlandofurioso7329 if it was I certainly don't want them using the same silly little toy guns as that thing from Forces, I want them to play like they should using their own abilities, despite their limitations. Because a game needs characters to flesh out the story as well as gameplay, not just functions alone.
@@DemonDethchase The wispons were cool and a neat way to reuse wisps but honestly I’d prefer if they used guns the same way Shadow did instead. Shadow’s gameplay was top notch just like P-06 and SA2 before them. Even though Shadow didn’t _really_ need guns, I feel he used them anyway as a form of limiting his power just so he has a decent challenge, like his inhibitor rings do. Even then the guns weren’t the main solution in some cases, like homing attacks to cross a gap, fighting enemies with shields or the Egg Dealer boss: ignoring the guns completely in the latter is more fun, as it’s funny to see Eggman realise just how stupid his machine was in a practical sense. For Forces, guns are practical for the avatar as he/she is effectively just a regular person. Their grappling hook can only get them so far and they can’t spin attack/spin dash, plus the chaos emeralds are absent. How they’d restock ammo not counting stealing weapons from Eggman’s mechs (like Shadow could also do) I don’t know.
The fact that this video is so popular makes me so happy. Came here for realm advice probably 8 years ago and have loved seeing you take this channel in a new direction. All of your game analysis videos have been so fun, well made, and engaging. I really hope you can pivot to making stuff like this all the time because you’re great at it!
I can't help but love that game over screen, it's perfect and fits great with the story. You lose, Sonic's world burns, so the sense of dread is very well-deserved.
I love the genuine passion you have for this. You got me to watch a video on a fan project for a game I haven't thought of in years, and I applaud you for that. Keep it up Talwar, you're doing great.
@@bickuribox12 It's because you praised sonic 06 which sonic fans are starving for atm. They want an end to the bad modern sonic games, so when they see someone praising what they want out of the series again, they latch onto videos like this.
If Sega collaborated with ChaosX and made this an official remaster it would break the internet. It wont happen because it would reflect badly on Sega that a fan managed to do better and it would probably be a minefield of legal issues (Mania already made Sega look bad, but since it was explicitly marketed as 'by the fans, for the fans' it got a pass, probably why they never let them make a sequel) but that doesnt mean I dont want it to happen... it would legit be a huge moment in gaming if one of the worst games in history got a second wind. Happened with Final Fantasy 14, would love to see Sonic 06 get the chance it deserved
Can you people shut up about this blasphemy? ChaosX DOES NOT WANT to be hired, because of how badly game devs are treated in the industry. The higher-ups have the final say on everything, take all the profits, then kick devs to the curb once their usefulness has been expended. Fan projects like his wouldn't exist the way they would with corporate interference. Also you really need to do your research if you think the Mania devs were "just fans" that SEGA TEMPORARILY hired.
Dunno, a fan remake is a fan remake. Not to mention the reception 06' has in itself for the series. (which is the same reason we don't have Sonic Unleashed remastered but we do in Sonic Colors). Luckly, unlike Nintendo Sega doesn't care much about their fan-games (or does but don't want to mess with them). That gives more air to the devs and not fear for an eventual lawsuit. And I think fans and people who do love the series are carrying it out now. It's an interesting approach, fron animation, music, art even live concerts. Most of them not made officially by the Sonic Team. But I don't think it will ever happen, a personal project must remain a personal project, maybe for passion. This whole cold corporate energy Sega has doesn't suit their fan-games and they are all wonderful projects like this one. Again, not to be a party pooper but this project is not made with money in mind, it's made because he wanted to improve 06' and all of it's faults with sheer passion of a single guy. But I mean it's up to him too, can't speak for him like I'm his mother. It's like what Google does with failed projects, Google+ was utter shit but do they want to remaster it, or try to fix it? No, it's rotten from the core. The design is done better on other apps.
@@moister3727 hahaha nah dont get it twisted, im more likely to become a millionaire tomorrow than sega ever considering project 06 as an official game, i just thought it would be an insanely cool move. It will definitely never happen like you said, and honestly it being a personal project is for the best, fans tend to know the market better than the company itself (not all cases, but definitely in others) so im glad that it is a fan project. Besides, it would hurt Sega's credibility and pride too much, if a fan project turned out better than their dedicated game company with access to multiple assets and resources. Just not a good look
This game has become one of my most played games of 2022 This is insane ! I hope ChaosX will complete his project, he's doing this game justice This is THE chance to restore Sonic 06's honor
now what would be even more mind blowing would be if he added the freaking chao garden from adventure 2, or possibly even do an own updated version of it. Ive spent countless hours with that minigame its a shame sega stopped making them
I absolutely love P-06, I noticed you mentioned a bit about speedrunning, I happen to Speedrun this game a ton and I really wished the playerbase for the speedruns were higher! But this game is absolutely addicting to see just how fast you can beat the clock and just go faster and faster and byfar my favorite stage to Speedrun is Aquatic Base for Shadow! Crazy considering that's arguably the stage with the most combat but speeding through all the enemies when removing the inhibitor rings is just so dang fun. If anyone who has ever considered speedrunning the game sees this I encourage you to give it a shot!
Kind of a fun trend in speedrunning. Often games that are horrible (or at least, not good) to play "normally" due to how broken they are can actually make for good speed games _because_ of how broken they are.
This was a truly quality video! Very few have properly sat down and looked at P-06 from a critical lense to explain why it works so well and feels so promising. The depth added by the point system and polishing of the characters movesets really making speed running a genuinely entertaining experience. And on the flip side, the added transitions and restored dialogue helped to make the stories of each stage flow so much better!
Would love to see a passion project like it for GTA Trilogy: Definitive Edition. Turn three disaster remasters of three PS2 classics and make them actually spectacular including undoing the taint of the mobile ports Grove Street Games used to give us versions much closer to the PS2 originals right down to the little effects that even the original PC ports were missing like PS2 SA’s orange filter that gives character to the 1992 setting other versions barring original Xbox lack. They’re made in Unreal. Easy enough to go in and mod compared to the PS2’s Renderware tech.
The amount of time and effort put into this game just further shows the untapped potential of 06 which 1. Hurts me further more and 2. Brings a smile to my face seeing that something like it exists. 06 has had its fair share of mods but this? This is a whole new level... Or act, cuase you know, Sonic. He.
My god i remember this video like it was yesterday when it was just uploaded, it's been two years already WTFFF, since then though you've been making consistent bangers, glad i kept watching
This game from what I've seen in gameplay is amazing. The added details, no being super glitchy, and being polished. Again, this game looks amazing and I can't wait to see the future for Silver and Blaze and possibly the full game(but let's not get ahead of ourselves). If only this was actually the game, but still, I'm glad this made
Hey, that was such a dynamic script and really good editing, excellent job. Even I not having a clue about what P-06 had done understood pretty much everything they did great and in a clear way
Honestly, Sega would probably be selling more copies of their Sonic games if they let their teams put even half the effort Chaosx has put into this one, instead of rushing the games to release. Like, just look at how pretty this is already! It's not even done!
Playing the remake version of Sonic 06 under the name of Sonic P-06 is a blast to play. Good to see there're people that are passionate and "rectifiate" the past. Sonic 06 could have been a great game. It's just unfortunate it has been rushed. Looking forward for Silver's part and it'll feel like a almost complete game. :)
This makes me want to make modded slight adjustments to Shadow the Hedgehog. Imagine if Eggman said "You know what they say, the more the merrier!" Only 25% of the time. Literally GOTY material.
Yo.ive been lurking around this project and i am beyond impressed. It's like the feeling i had when i first heard about 06. Cant wait for the completion of this project
I haven't watched you in forever, but it's really great seeing you branch out from ROTMG content, cause wow I just love the way you talk about things in general. You really did this project justice with your review, it made me really want to play it myself. Keep up the great content!
The past few years has seen '06 have a small rise, P-06 is one thing, but the original game's gotten attention in our small circles too, it's quite a fun one to mod.
I would like to see ChaosX and the team make seperate levels (not just 1) for all amigo characters, especially Knuckles and Blaze. Just for fun and really utilizing their skills outside of the story campaign. I don't know if that's possible, but that would be really great.
I've watched this, the mach speed video, the lost world video, and the character video about 5 or 6 times each. They just cannot seem to get old. Keep it up
You really sold me on this. The passion you have for this remaster and the story you told for it in this video really have me so excited to get this on my PC when I have the chance. Growing up I never got the chance to play 06 for myself because my older brothers took the game back to the store because of the bugs. But I’ve always had an affection for what this game was trying to do, even if it was such a monumental disappointment. I’ve wanted to find a way to play 06 since Sonic fandom has started to come around to it, but I was afraid to try and pick up something that’s so broken. I’m so glad this exists.
Well no. Because the same levels, bosses, cutscenes, models (albeit enhanced), and music. A remake is resident evil 1. Remake is basically well… remaking a game from scratch. But keeping the stuff from the original, but just making it different and better without stripping away from it. A remaster is taking the original game and tweaking some things. This is a remaster. And a port is just the original said game, but exported to a different console
The beauty of chaos x and how he maneuvers “gaming” is what originally made video games special. This key ingredient is what’s missing today, passion in the creations passion in the players.
I honestly always thought that Sonic 06 could've been the so much wanted Sonic Adventure 3 also for the Shadow combo animation, I was little when I played this game so I just liked watching it lol
When I was younger I always liked shadow better as a character, but in game he was easier to use than sonic especially when fighting. Of all 3 stories I made it the furthest in shadow’s
@@Eli-akad I also like Shadow better then Sonic or Silver. Tho I made it only to Crisis City back then in both Sonic and Shadow stories. In SIlver story i made it at the like 2nd level, the one in the swamp/forest sadly. I was little so I just couldn't beat those levels
it's honestly astonishing to see what feels like an attempt to make the game feel much more like how it was originally supposed to come out, i'll definitely have to check it out
Really happy that p-06 exists and really happy that ChaosX made playable proof that 06 had only rushed production in its way. I hope Iizuka feels better about the game compared to 15 years ago.
So glad to see you get the attention you deserve with this video. Long time viewer here so I'm definitely biased but this is one of the best of this type of video I've, please consider doing more on other games and projects like this!
So glad someone else recognizes how great the scoring and rank system was in SA2. Easily my favorite part of that game, it just keeps drawing me back to beat my scores even after getting all A ranks. I only just found out about this project, but having a similar system to encourage smart play and replayability is something I'm very happy to see.
The only part of this I don't agree with you on is 1-Ups respawning. I don't think that in ANY way detracts from the game. If someone wants to spend time grinding for lives, I don't see why not. Besides, the original game didn't have respawning 1-ups, and it made things infinitely more frustrating than they already were.
I’m mixed on it, I don’t care about it respawning but I can see how that would make it to easy, like the game over screen he was talking about I never got to see it cause all the respawning one ups, I feel like it makes the game easier and it was only frustrating in the first game cause of how broken and cheap that game was Most of my deaths in the og game came from dumb stuff that was fixed Shadows cars Bri The ball in aquatic base Mach speed sections Etc so I don’t think we really need respawning one ups And getting a game over here isn’t as bad as it was in the og you jus start over the level
I mean, respawning 1ups were a thing until Adventure. I honestly don't know why, Game Overs meant jack shit once save files became a thing. So really, the respawning 1ups doesnt really detract for anything, and if anything, brings back the simpler times of the classic era
I can't believe that being a Sonic fan since 20 years now I wasn't aware fo this being developped until recently! Tbh I did enjoy Sonic '06, or at least the potential it could've been. I did find myself playing the game many times even though I was aware of its flaws. Seeing this video and knowing how much love is being put into this project, as well as knowing how amazing the fandom can be for having people like ChaosX servicing like this is just... phenomenal. I can't even begin to describe the ammount of joy I feel as a Sonic fan, but I am very happy allcthe same ❤
Holy crap, this looks amazing! I just beat it for the first time on PS3 and it uhh... it was rough. Later down the line when this project is more optimized, I'll definitely download it! I'm looking forward to seeing what Chaosx continues to bless us with.
I've downloaded the game not too long ago and holy shit it's amazing, It's nothing too spectacular but there was one little detail that cemented my feelings of being the best sonic fan project. In Shadow's version of Wave Ocean if you look closely at the sky box (which I love that it's a sunset to make it way more unique then the original) you can see the moon...But half of it is gone like in Sonic Adventure 2! It's so cool that ChaosX implemented that since the recent sonic games never brought it up again. I cannot WAIT to see what they do with Silvers Episode and the Last Episode!
I’ve always been a fan of 06 and given that it was my first 360 game it has a lot of nostalgia for me. Seeing if get the love and deserved update that Sega won’t do. I don’t have a PC that would play it but I can’t wait to see everything that comes of it!
oh my god this video was so well written and put together, i had hardly heard of this project before this but now im incredibly intrigued!!! your commentary was really informative and i even laughed at the quick gags ^^ thank you for talking about this project
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it! I very much had no idea someone was doing a remake before now. I really hope the people fixing the game see this video cause those fixes you suggest seem to come from a place of care.
I'm extremely happy to FINALLY see Sonic 06 be a genuinely good game! The updated visuals are great and the changes to the character movement and animations make the game so much more fun. Cant wait to see this project improve further and be tuned to perfection later down the line.
@@BkSonic Nintendo is good though. They canceled the new direction Metroid was going down with other m and federation force, and listened to fan backlash which resulted in samus returns and dread. If it was sega, they'd stay arrogant and keep making federation force type games, while mocking fans.
man I can’t express how WEIRD this is. i remember playing 06 as a kid, and being so flabbergasted by the mach speed controls that I never got past wave ocean. I was pretty aware of how bad the game was even as a little kid but I couldn’t help but develop a strong nostalgia for it. so being here today and seeing THIS. seeing 06 suddenly look smooth, well polished, and actually FUN is just absolutely indescribable. seeing this game from my childhood being everything I had imagine it to be is just…wow. amazing work
Your voice and precise way of explaining things is what made your realm of the mad god videos so entertaining and helpful. So you should definitely do more commentary like this for other games/topics. You're perfect for the job.
Just seeing you sound so happy about the game is so refreshing, like man, we really don't see too much of that recently. You being happy about it makes me happy, so thanks for the blessing. 🙏
One thing I like about this remake is that it's debunking an often cited myth about Sonic 06, that the glitches are what make it bad. But the fact is that it's a poorly designed game, and this remake is doing way more than just fix glitches
I just wanna say ive been watching you for months and youre the reason i got back into sonic. The jokes you make throughout a lot of your videos always crack me up and you actually were a youtuber that I thought i was subscribed to until i checked and saw you werent in my subscriber list
Hey, Bikuribox. Thanks for rocking that nostalgic username. And thank you for this awesome video. I actually feel excited to play this. I wish you the best with your channel, man. Have an amazing day.
17:13 Honestly, I feel the bike in this section should be given a buff so that it goes really fast, the train should be going fast, and the music should mirror this with an EDM style beat, or whatever makes sense in the situation, I don't know about the music for that part.
Shadow’s bike should handle like its equivalent in Shadow’s own game. That bike was lit and made Lethal Highway one of the best levels in the game. Just do that with P-06’s bike boost, lower the reload time for its machine guns and we’re golden. By the way, how do you perform the Shadow Game style chaos blast in P-06? I’ve only ever done the vanilla 06 one which is basically just Chaos Lance with a bigger blast radius.
Chaos Blast is in vanilla 06. You upgrade to level three chaos meter and then press RT again near an enemy (emphasis on near) and it will take them out. Has nothing to do with the Chaos Lance.
The scoring system reminds me of playing as Eggman in SA2 for his hard mode missions, specifically weapons bed. Where you want to meet a quota of lock on targets before shooting.
To be fair, one of the biggest criticisms with the original 06's gameplay is how the characters felt like they had no weight to them. While i agree P-06 could probably up the speed a tad without compromising level design, at least the controls don't feel too precise or too slippery (like in Shadow or Heroes for example).
Yo Talwar I'm so happy to see how popular this video has gotten. It's always nice to see a youtuber you've been watching for years have a video that blows up
I'm gonna give you major props just for giving scoring its due at all, because in general, I've seen people disregard scoring in games at large, even in, for example, a shoot-em-up that's almost entirely designed around its very refined scoring system, simply because 'who cares about score nowadays?' Well, I do. Players should tend to. It efficiently adds replay value to a game. Speedrunning is always an option with real time, regardless of a game's overall design, but scoring is only an avenue of play if devs make it one, and if they can and want to, I think games are just better off with it. I still regularly go back to games like Nex Machina and ZeroRanger because of scoring alone. Btw, I really like your calm, rational style and dry humor. It makes me take you seriously, really listen to what you have to say and take it in. I think I'll be looking forward to any future uploads from you. Cheers!
This is awesome! It’s great to know there are people out there who actually would like to fix what didn’t work in sonic 06 than just rant about it all day. I seriously wish SEGA would do a remake of this game but that’s a wish that’ll probably never come true.
the fact i dont play any games or know a damn thing about sonic but sat throughout the entire video- i dont know how youve managed to keep my attention for this long but i love you for it you have such a good way of speaking where you perfectly explain the point your trying to make without loosing me with overly confusing gaming terms terms i wouldnt understand ily😭
I am stunned by how much attention this has gotten, thank you to everyone who watched it and left a nice comment, I sincerely appreciate it. If the interest is there, I'll gladly do more content like this
I'm honestly super glad your video hit the algorithm. You've always had a good voice for essay style videos, and for someone who gathered their audience through RotMG get the attention on a completely different topic is very rare, but you fully deserve it!
You mentioned that doubling the speed cap wouldn't work well for the set design, but what about something "smaller?" As an example, if the normal cap is (number from a hat) 10,000 voxels/second, upping it to 12,000? And what if, during in a scripted scene, it increases to 15,000?
You also mentioned having a problem with the drain on power meter during scripted scenes; what if the rate of loss was halved during a scripted scene?
Just some thinking aloud :D
I love seeing you win man. I actually discovered your channel through that Megaman and Roll video and I'm really impressed with the quality. Wishing your channel an immense amount of success in the future 🙏🏾
Im with you on this as well my friend. But the one thing i know that can get the game in a better situation with better development without the idiots of 4kids and 4kids itself...time travel! Think of it, we can prevent not only 4kids from existing and having the origanl cast replace but we can also get sonic 06 with the same people who did adventures 1 and 2 to a remarkable game but maybe also get a better design for silver(hes look is ok but he get get more quills and do speed and homing attack together. He can still his psycho powers, just deserve the same thing as both hedgehogs) what do you think?
I just realized your channel name is a yugioh reference
Hasn't played original, decides to remake it anyway. What a fucking legend. What a chad.
HELLS YEAH
@sk youtube footage, he confirmed on twitter.
The creator of the remake never played the original game?
@@user_Z- Now he has, like 1 week ago
That's a magnum dick move
Fun fact: the original loading times are entirely due to the game reading the load file in its ENTIRETY to find the level it's supposed to load, that's one singular lua file for the entire game's level loading
@@hoffer_moment I think what they mean is that the game looks at every single file for maps in the game to load each section, meaning to load Shadow's Crisis City, it looks at the files for Sonic's Wave Ocean, Silver's Kingdom Valley, etc until it finds Shadow's version of Crisis City specifically
@@hoffer_moment I guess like it for example loads Wave Ocean in its entirety before it checks if that's the right map to load, and if it's not it completely unloads it and rinse and repeat until correct map is loaded. I dont fully understand how that works either but I would assume that's what is happening, hence it taking forever for the loading screen to fade
@@hoffer_moment ok so Sonic 06 as you are probably aware utilizes compiled Lua scripts called lub files, in the folder responsible for telling the game how to load in those files is a singular file called stageselect.lub this file is literally the only method the game has for reading each and every stage, mission, and boss in the game, there's over 3000 lines of scripting in there. 3631 to be exact and yes this is for literally every single character, you'd think they'd have it separated out by Sonic, Shadow, Silver, and Final but nope you can attribute the long load times to this file directly as it has to read through each line of script to find the stage it's looking for that matches whatever stage code was triggered in the adventure stage and then load in the assets, make you wait for it to play a short cutscene, then look in that lub file AGAIN to find the actual stage assets.
@@hoffer_moment it's not string matching
it's a script run by a not very well optimized interpreter, plus the files themselves are put into archives, with a lot of stuff put into generic archives making them unnecessarily big
oh that's some yanderedev type programming right there
Really glad you enjoyed the game! Love videos like these, a very good one too, I'll make sure to keep some of the points of critique noted down and see what I can do to improve the game later on, thank you for taking the time to talk about the project! 🙏
Whoa you got here fast! Thank you and of course! Happy to spread the good word and looking forward to the rest of your work 👍
suii
You’re doing the lord’s work.
Everything I see about this looks so damn promising. The only way I could get any more impressed would be if you could somehow make the story less crap.
I don’t know if that’s even possible, but I’m convinced you guys are wizards at this point so who knows.
@@cjmoore9966 Can't make something that's already great and not crap less crap.
Bruh you on like every review for this game. Your grind is incredible 🤣
The fact that fans are remaking what's considered to be the worst Sonic Game in the entire franchise really goes out to show how much potential the game had.
always though it was the worst sonic game with the potential to have been the best. Seems like this update project is proving that point.
@@narobii9815 exactly we’ve been waiting for this ramaster for years
06 isn’t the worst. Free Riders and Labyrinth are the worst. Literal physical and mental pain those 2 games give
@@theminecraft2516 free riders for the gamecube not the wii one right? Not sure what Labyrinth is.
@@narobii9815 Free Riders was the one on connect and is the third Riders game although most people pretend it doesn’t exist. Sonic Riders was on gamecube and other platforms and Zero Gravity was on Wii and other platforms. Zero Gravity wasn’t good either but it wasn’t unplayable like Free Riders.
"I stopped waking up at a cold sweat pondering what could have been"
Man me too
How the actual hell has ChaosX never played Sonic 06, doesn't personally want a career in video game creating, and yet they were able to make this absolutely amazing remaster? Truly incredible.
just because someone doesn't want to make a career out of something doesn't mean they don't want to do it
@@404waffles I'm not saying either is bad. I'm just saying their skill and passion for the project is impressive considering it isn't a career or even a game they are personally invested in.
@@kirin1230 the issue is, if their entire career was game design, they'd no longer have a passion for it. most game companies just chew up passionate developers, break them, and spit them back out.
@sk Did you watch the video?
He's the ultimate chad
We don't deserve ChaosX, but boi we needed someone like him
So true!!!!
Facts
"He's not the hero we deserve, but he was certainly the hero we needed."? :P
Sounds about right!
he's are sonic hero
ChaosX literally saving the entire sonic game series on his own without help.
Okay this is extremely amazing. But at 14:51 the way the enemy flew around after being defeated actually slightly terrified me lol
Your timestamp almost made me spit out my water, it was hilarious. He stretched out into infinity
@@FrankieFrak-Frakityfranker lolll yeah
My boy kicked him so hard his physics broke and then he exploded. Looks like something from Fist of the North Star.
@@Mr.Moustache2 lmaooo it also reminded me of goat simulator, the devil goat lmao
[insert Mutahar laughing meme]
I noticed that there was a color change to Shadow’s UI (the display that shows score, time, ring count, lives) where in the retail version, all the characters have the same color but Shadow has a Dark Red style. I hope that eventually Silver and maybe even the other characters gets their own.
Yeah Silver is getting one too. These alternate HUD gradients were actually in the original game's files, but went unused for some reason, so they've been restored for P06.
I grew up with the 2006 version and now i feel nothing but nostalgia when i see the remastered footage…. My favourite part about 2006 was the theme songs that accompanied each stage and managed to convince my cousin to play “My destiny” (the credits song) for his wedding…. So fitting
Really? That’s cool
that’s really neat, kid!
I may have to do that for my wedding.
@@themoocow7718 sameeee haha
I hop on Sonic P06 all the time, it's so much fun and feels like SA3.
That’s because it uses the Adventure formula
yeah it really makes me wish someone would reskin the chao gardens and just inject that into P06, give the open world hubs some use
@@PreciousCosmos Holy shit. Bring back the Chao Gardens. They were the biggest incentive I've ever seen in a Sonic game. Those little babies made me so happy ❤️
@@PreciousCosmos my Chao probably hate me after i left them for 4 years 😂
@@PreciousCosmos Merging Chao gardens into 06's giant obnoxious hub worlds to give them some more value is legit one of the best ideas I've ever seen for improving a Sonic game.
y'know, as a veteran of the franchise, i absolutely took a lot of these changes for granted and it never really occurred to me that the score system was something someone would play around, to me it's always been "this is a sonic game, so get from point A to point B in the fastest time possible" and that's how i always enjoyed it. the new scoring just landed as a "oh hey that's a nice nod to SA2"
feels really refreshing to see someone else take an entirely different approach to it than i ever would, great vid man
This game is the first game where I actually focused on the scores similar to him because if you get an S rank on every stage you get super sonic and Inhibitor ring shadow, at first I just tried to speed run it and realized that speed is Probably the least important score
So I had to reply the levels with one trying not to be hit at all since rings give you a huge bonus and then trying to kill every enemy in a chain to up my score, I replayed the levels so many times but it was so fun, especially for sonic the Mach speed sections messed up my perfect no hit so many times but I kept grinding to up my score and super sonic and inhibitors ring shadow was soooo worth it,
S ranks in other games don’t give u anything worth it fr
@@dantemitsoyu977 P-06 unironically taught me the joys of trial and error (Mainly due to the reward of Super Sonic and Inhibitor Shadow lol). The feeling of finally crushing your frustration and passing through the level with clear ease and gaining an S rank opened my mind to a whole new world. I had always played most Sonic Games with the goal of "Speed through level, win, gg" (Aside from 3&K, the hyper emeralds and Doomsday Zone were extremely rewarding), but now I've learned to appreciate exploration and finding new paths to perfect in my other past favorite sonic games
14:50 can we just take a moment to appreciate the way the enemy ragdolls? It's beautiful.
LMAOOOOOO
I know this is probably a glitch, but I sincerely hope it never gets patched out; It’s just too god damn funny. XD
I nearly blinked for a second and I just saw that fucker just had a seizure across the screen then exploded. bickuribox12 didn't even acknowledged it which makes it even funnier!
Bro got hit so hard, his entire physical being crumbled before being sent to the shadow realm.
I never thought about it much, but hearing "Sonic 06 is 15 years old now" just hit me hard.
Didn't this game come out in 06? Yea it's a bit older than 15
@@timdoe8895
I’m pretty sure I made this comment when this video first came out so it was a couple months off from the game’s 15th anniversary.
@@Wiki1184 this video came out in 2022. 06s 15 anniversary was back in 2021
@@timdoe8895
Yes *JANUARY* 2022. The game came out in *NOVEMBER* 2006. That’s only 15 years and 2 months.
A lot closer to 15 years than 16 years.
technically it's 17 years old now. Because that's how old I am, I was born in 2006
This was a fantastic breakdown of P-06 and I was really impressed by your narration, writing and editing here. I could feel how passionate you were about this project and I absolutely loved that. When you said you were torn between who was most fun to play, it really sunk in just how much ChaosX has blown the original game out of the water. Great video!
I’m flattered by your words and to have such a big name in my comments
@Liam Triforce I recently watched your Twilight princess video(it was really good; currently been playing a randomizer of it on my channel and almost done reaching all of the manga for it(volume 10 is expected to come out later this year)
If the cutscenes are remastered to be better, I think someone should replace Snapcubes sonic 06 fandub footage
@@DaBoltJ721 No.
I really love how Shadow's gameplay was tweaked, it's like this odd combination of Tony Hawk and Devil May Cry, where you need to balance interaction with the environment as well as planning how to deal with hordes of enemies.
I can only imagine the combo potential if he were to get his guns back.
The interesting part about this project, the fact that they CAN add new areas that didn't exist before does suggest that maybe, just maybe could potentially overhaul the entire levels instead. That's probably for the modders tho.
The game is made from the ground up using a different engine to the original game. It is very possible
Or even add some unused levels or cutscenes or events in a playable form.
The list of gripes only makes me realize that we're _criticizing_ Sonic 06, and not absolutely shitting on it, because we know it can improve
And the story of 06? That's been criticized to death, but I don't see any plans for that to be fixed.
@@TheVeyron623 Only by people who didn't pay attention/had bad faith complaints.
@@TheVeyron623 unless you can get voice actors and learn to animate, and then re-do ALL the cutscenes
It's easier said than done
@@juanokug4 There's nothing to fix anyway.
@@bunsmasterbunny eh there's a bunch
Mainly blaze and her literal non interaction with anyone who isn't silver
Because that's real, she doesn't speak to anyone who isn't silver
Also how multiple characters can just _do_ things that they shouldn't know how to do
"Mid Air Control In Mach Speed Sections"
I'm literally sat here chopping up the VoDs of a recent '06 stream and the sheer amount of deaths due to not being able to turn mid-air is soul-rending.
...looking at you Fire Tornado segment. Randomised debris was great. Collision/damage on that randomised debris was a bold move. But then ON TOP of that to throw in mandatory jumps with no mid air turning is a recipe for flinging yourself to death. Often it's either turn to avoid debris, jump over obstacle and risk death from a wrong angle fling. Or don't turn / try to course correct beforehand and risk death from getting 1-2-combo'd by sudden extra debris, the wonky obstacle hitbox, or both.
God bless you ChaosX
I never thought I'd be saying this but Sonic 06 looks fun now. Definitely have to give this a shot.
But... think about it. Sonic 06 wouldn't be named "Sonic 06" if it was actually good.
It'd still be called Sonic Next Gen by fans like it was originally back in 2005/06.
P-06 deserves the "Sonic Next Gen" title
@@ccelite3782 joke
@@ccelite3782 that's actually a swell idea, but P-06 ties it to its original game and is more recognizable.
@@ccelite3782 sonic 06 is already great imo. I enjoy re playing in he stages every now and then lol.
@@thedestroyer5794 its great in my opinion too
Just not to others
I think when Sonic Adventure tapped into that Tony Hawk mindset of "trick off this rail, flip off this pole, chain these together" it's one of the subtler things those games did that really had a cool flow and feeling to it, especially if you tied it into speedrunning a level like the Metal Harbor A-Rank (minus the obscene difficulty involved with that example). To see the P-06 demos tap into that again for a game that almost feels like it was designed for it but didn't quite reach it is pretty awesome to see.
Ah heck man, you're reminding me of the pursuit of absolute perfection in Metal Harbor me and my buddies did back in college. We had an ongoing pair of competitions -- who could get the highest score, but also who could get the *lowest* score in a run. It was some of the most fun I'd ever had in a game. Can't believe that was almost 15 years ago now; thanks for the nostalgia.
Great video! One thing I should mention about the rail speed, in 2005's Shadow the Hedgehog, if you press the X button (on Gamecube) when you "dance", you'll get a speed boost. If you mash it, you can reach really ridiculous speeds! I never liked the balancing mechanic from Adventure 2 & Heroes since I would always lock up even though I was turning in the right direction (might just be my problem and not the game's fault). The grinding mechanics from Shadow's game feels like a nice balance between 06 & Adventure 2's grinding so that's why I brought it up.
Shadow actually shares the same grinding heroes does as they use the same engine, only SA2 is different and uses balancing.
SA2 works just fine, Heroes is what screwed it up. The grinding in Shadow is not at all like those 2 games, it functions completely different.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 I remembered Heroes grinding to be janky af. Especially when switching from rail to rail. I’ve had PLENTY of deaths result from that.
@@HelperUnknownGB It's more inconsistent when balancing to speed up, and it's hard to tell if you're doing it right since the difference isn't as pronounced.
There’s nothing more powerful than remaking a bad game into a good one, let alone doing it using RUclips footage for reference
"No idea is too radical for this franchise"
Except for waiting for the games to actually be finished before shoving them out the door.
Sad, but true... The funniest part is, despite them primarily making Sonic games as cash grabs nowadays, all they end up doing is hurting their own sales with this crap.
Except with Forces, they had plenty of time to make the game and wasted it.
Rockstar Games agrees. And that’s why GTA Defective Edition exists.
I genuinely find myself coming back to this video literally every single night for about a month now (kinda became my nightly routine), and it never ceases to entertain me.
The structure is so good, whenever I click on the video I HAVE to see it in its entirety, the review is really well thought out the jokes never feel out of place, in fact they always make me laugh rewatch upon rewatch despite knowing them by heart now, what can I say, you're just one hell of a good reviewer honestly.
And let's not kid ourselves here, this is the video that made me interested in your channel, and discovering your past reviews this past month to going all the way back here, man I genuinely think you've just outdone yourself, you've improved so much and still are improving it's amazing.
Anyways, I truly don't know if you'll see this or not but I had to comment because dammit I adore your way writing 👌
Peace, and take care.
Sonic Colours Ultimate: Tails is not playable but can be used as a checkpoint/respawn... thing.
Sonic P-06: Tails is still playable and can use his Sonic Adventure tail swipe attack both on the ground and in the air.
I'll take 10 of P-06!
Wtf Tails was playable in og 06 and not in og Colors.
I swear half of the people hating on Sonic games never actually played them.
@@orlandofurioso7329 He was replaced for the Hover Wisp. Because who needs Tails when you can have his function in a Wisp.
However, for all I said about Tails should have been playable in Colours Ultimate, considering that regular moves you took for granted with Sonic get locked behind Wisps - like Boosting or the Light Speed Dash - it would no doubt be the same for Tails, or any other characters who would have been playable...
You want to fly as Tails? Well You better have the right Wisp for that.
You want to climb walls as Knuckles, but don't have the proper Wisps, too bad!
Smash things with Amy's hammer, Wisp please.
Use Blaze's fire abilities, Wisp.
And so on...
So basically his moveset would also have to be gimped, like Sonic's, to make the Wisps work, so he too can become a Jack of all trades and a master of stop and go gameplay. Plus it'd be exactly the same for everyone else so long as the Wisps continue to infest Sonic's world, despite the fact that, unlike the Chao, they have zero narrative reason for being there.
I do hope Tails and the others are playable in Frontiers, as its been 15 years since 06, which was his last playable appearance in a mainline 3D game, and I do believe we've more than exhausted things from both a gameplay and narrative sense where Sonic is the only person who can actually do anything.
@@DemonDethchase yeah i hope so too, i think the wispons in Forces were a test to bring them back
@@orlandofurioso7329 if it was I certainly don't want them using the same silly little toy guns as that thing from Forces, I want them to play like they should using their own abilities, despite their limitations. Because a game needs characters to flesh out the story as well as gameplay, not just functions alone.
@@DemonDethchase The wispons were cool and a neat way to reuse wisps but honestly I’d prefer if they used guns the same way Shadow did instead. Shadow’s gameplay was top notch just like P-06 and SA2 before them. Even though Shadow didn’t _really_ need guns, I feel he used them anyway as a form of limiting his power just so he has a decent challenge, like his inhibitor rings do. Even then the guns weren’t the main solution in some cases, like homing attacks to cross a gap, fighting enemies with shields or the Egg Dealer boss: ignoring the guns completely in the latter is more fun, as it’s funny to see Eggman realise just how stupid his machine was in a practical sense.
For Forces, guns are practical for the avatar as he/she is effectively just a regular person. Their grappling hook can only get them so far and they can’t spin attack/spin dash, plus the chaos emeralds are absent. How they’d restock ammo not counting stealing weapons from Eggman’s mechs (like Shadow could also do) I don’t know.
The fact that this video is so popular makes me so happy. Came here for realm advice probably 8 years ago and have loved seeing you take this channel in a new direction. All of your game analysis videos have been so fun, well made, and engaging. I really hope you can pivot to making stuff like this all the time because you’re great at it!
I can't help but love that game over screen, it's perfect and fits great with the story. You lose, Sonic's world burns, so the sense of dread is very well-deserved.
being born in 2006 and being in the generation that played this game makes me feel like the chosen one of the universe.
I love 06 and P-06. I'm glad people are enjoying this game I've always loved either way.
I love the genuine passion you have for this. You got me to watch a video on a fan project for a game I haven't thought of in years, and I applaud you for that. Keep it up Talwar, you're doing great.
Been watching your content for several years now and I'm glad the algorithm finally did it's magic for you. Long overdue but well deserved, congrats!
I'm still in shock. Whatever it was I did, it worked. Thank you
@@bickuribox12 It's because you praised sonic 06 which sonic fans are starving for atm. They want an end to the bad modern sonic games, so when they see someone praising what they want out of the series again, they latch onto videos like this.
If Sega collaborated with ChaosX and made this an official remaster it would break the internet. It wont happen because it would reflect badly on Sega that a fan managed to do better and it would probably be a minefield of legal issues (Mania already made Sega look bad, but since it was explicitly marketed as 'by the fans, for the fans' it got a pass, probably why they never let them make a sequel) but that doesnt mean I dont want it to happen... it would legit be a huge moment in gaming if one of the worst games in history got a second wind. Happened with Final Fantasy 14, would love to see Sonic 06 get the chance it deserved
Sonic Mania absolutely counts as the fans doing Sonic better than Sega.
Can you people shut up about this blasphemy? ChaosX DOES NOT WANT to be hired, because of how badly game devs are treated in the industry. The higher-ups have the final say on everything, take all the profits, then kick devs to the curb once their usefulness has been expended. Fan projects like his wouldn't exist the way they would with corporate interference.
Also you really need to do your research if you think the Mania devs were "just fans" that SEGA TEMPORARILY hired.
Dunno, a fan remake is a fan remake. Not to mention the reception 06' has in itself for the series. (which is the same reason we don't have Sonic Unleashed remastered but we do in Sonic Colors).
Luckly, unlike Nintendo Sega doesn't care much about their fan-games (or does but don't want to mess with them). That gives more air to the devs and not fear for an eventual lawsuit.
And I think fans and people who do love the series are carrying it out now. It's an interesting approach, fron animation, music, art even live concerts. Most of them not made officially by the Sonic Team.
But I don't think it will ever happen, a personal project must remain a personal project, maybe for passion. This whole cold corporate energy Sega has doesn't suit their fan-games and they are all wonderful projects like this one.
Again, not to be a party pooper but this project is not made with money in mind, it's made because he wanted to improve 06' and all of it's faults with sheer passion of a single guy. But I mean it's up to him too, can't speak for him like I'm his mother.
It's like what Google does with failed projects, Google+ was utter shit but do they want to remaster it, or try to fix it? No, it's rotten from the core. The design is done better on other apps.
@@moister3727 hahaha nah dont get it twisted, im more likely to become a millionaire tomorrow than sega ever considering project 06 as an official game, i just thought it would be an insanely cool move. It will definitely never happen like you said, and honestly it being a personal project is for the best, fans tend to know the market better than the company itself (not all cases, but definitely in others) so im glad that it is a fan project. Besides, it would hurt Sega's credibility and pride too much, if a fan project turned out better than their dedicated game company with access to multiple assets and resources. Just not a good look
@@AkameGaKillfan777 "blasphemy" c'mon man... its not that serious lmao
This game has become one of my most played games of 2022
This is insane !
I hope ChaosX will complete his project, he's doing this game justice
This is THE chance to restore Sonic 06's honor
now what would be even more mind blowing would be if he added the freaking chao garden from adventure 2, or possibly even do an own updated version of it. Ive spent countless hours with that minigame its a shame sega stopped making them
I absolutely love P-06, I noticed you mentioned a bit about speedrunning, I happen to Speedrun this game a ton and I really wished the playerbase for the speedruns were higher! But this game is absolutely addicting to see just how fast you can beat the clock and just go faster and faster and byfar my favorite stage to Speedrun is Aquatic Base for Shadow! Crazy considering that's arguably the stage with the most combat but speeding through all the enemies when removing the inhibitor rings is just so dang fun. If anyone who has ever considered speedrunning the game sees this I encourage you to give it a shot!
What sonic shoe do you use to speed run mainly
@@dantemitsoyu977 I run Gemless since gems are pretty tough in the Speedrun
@@dantemitsoyu977 When running Gems, it's primarily Blue and Purple. Sky gem, White gem and Rainbow gem have niche use, though.
Been playing the base game, and accidently S ranked Shadow’s Hard Aquatic Base. Shit ton of combat, but fun time.
Kind of a fun trend in speedrunning.
Often games that are horrible (or at least, not good) to play "normally" due to how broken they are can actually make for good speed games _because_ of how broken they are.
This was a truly quality video! Very few have properly sat down and looked at P-06 from a critical lense to explain why it works so well and feels so promising. The depth added by the point system and polishing of the characters movesets really making speed running a genuinely entertaining experience. And on the flip side, the added transitions and restored dialogue helped to make the stories of each stage flow so much better!
Would love to see a passion project like it for GTA Trilogy: Definitive Edition. Turn three disaster remasters of three PS2 classics and make them actually spectacular including undoing the taint of the mobile ports Grove Street Games used to give us versions much closer to the PS2 originals right down to the little effects that even the original PC ports were missing like PS2 SA’s orange filter that gives character to the 1992 setting other versions barring original Xbox lack.
They’re made in Unreal. Easy enough to go in and mod compared to the PS2’s Renderware tech.
The amount of time and effort put into this game just further shows the untapped potential of 06 which 1. Hurts me further more and 2. Brings a smile to my face seeing that something like it exists. 06 has had its fair share of mods but this? This is a whole new level...
Or act, cuase you know, Sonic. He.
My god i remember this video like it was yesterday when it was just uploaded, it's been two years already WTFFF, since then though you've been making consistent bangers, glad i kept watching
This game from what I've seen in gameplay is amazing. The added details, no being super glitchy, and being polished. Again, this game looks amazing and I can't wait to see the future for Silver and Blaze and possibly the full game(but let's not get ahead of ourselves). If only this was actually the game, but still, I'm glad this made
Hey, that was such a dynamic script and really good editing, excellent job. Even I not having a clue about what P-06 had done understood pretty much everything they did great and in a clear way
Well, it is finally time for bickuribox12 to make a video on Silver the Hedgehog in Project 06 as ChaosX finally released the Silver update.
Honestly, Sega would probably be selling more copies of their Sonic games if they let their teams put even half the effort Chaosx has put into this one, instead of rushing the games to release. Like, just look at how pretty this is already! It's not even done!
Playing the remake version of Sonic 06 under the name of Sonic P-06 is a blast to play. Good to see there're people that are passionate and "rectifiate" the past. Sonic 06 could have been a great game. It's just unfortunate it has been rushed.
Looking forward for Silver's part and it'll feel like a almost complete game. :)
both you and ChaosX have given what I've needed most in this day and age: Hope.
Finally, a team to do to 3D Sonic what SonicMania did to 2D Sonic.
This makes me want to make modded slight adjustments to Shadow the Hedgehog. Imagine if Eggman said "You know what they say, the more the merrier!" Only 25% of the time. Literally GOTY material.
Impressive! I’d heard someone was fixing the monster. To see he’s doing so well is astounding.
3:43 The only thing missing in this part is the “AAAAAAAAAAAAAA-“ in the background
Yo.ive been lurking around this project and i am beyond impressed. It's like the feeling i had when i first heard about 06. Cant wait for the completion of this project
I haven't watched you in forever, but it's really great seeing you branch out from ROTMG content, cause wow I just love the way you talk about things in general. You really did this project justice with your review, it made me really want to play it myself. Keep up the great content!
The past few years has seen '06 have a small rise, P-06 is one thing, but the original game's gotten attention in our small circles too, it's quite a fun one to mod.
I would like to see ChaosX and the team make seperate levels (not just 1) for all amigo characters, especially Knuckles and Blaze. Just for fun and really utilizing their skills outside of the story campaign. I don't know if that's possible, but that would be really great.
Seeing rouge have a treasure hunting stage with sa1 mechanics was so great for me
I've watched this, the mach speed video, the lost world video, and the character video about 5 or 6 times each. They just cannot seem to get old. Keep it up
You are a champion
You really sold me on this. The passion you have for this remaster and the story you told for it in this video really have me so excited to get this on my PC when I have the chance. Growing up I never got the chance to play 06 for myself because my older brothers took the game back to the store because of the bugs. But I’ve always had an affection for what this game was trying to do, even if it was such a monumental disappointment. I’ve wanted to find a way to play 06 since Sonic fandom has started to come around to it, but I was afraid to try and pick up something that’s so broken. I’m so glad this exists.
No, Not a remaster. It's a remake. all from scratch. It's unbelievable how good it is.
Well no. Because the same levels, bosses, cutscenes, models (albeit enhanced), and music. A remake is resident evil 1. Remake is basically well… remaking a game from scratch. But keeping the stuff from the original, but just making it different and better without stripping away from it. A remaster is taking the original game and tweaking some things. This is a remaster.
And a port is just the original said game, but exported to a different console
The beauty of chaos x and how he maneuvers “gaming” is what originally made video games special. This key ingredient is what’s missing today, passion in the creations passion in the players.
Having an unlockable Sonic Man as a playable character would be icing on the cake.
What about Hatsun or Pele?
They could be Sonic Man's amigo characters.
I honestly always thought that Sonic 06 could've been the so much wanted Sonic Adventure 3
also for the Shadow combo animation, I was little when I played this game so I just liked watching it lol
When I was younger I always liked shadow better as a character, but in game he was easier to use than sonic especially when fighting. Of all 3 stories I made it the furthest in shadow’s
@@Eli-akad I also like Shadow better then Sonic or Silver. Tho I made it only to Crisis City back then in both Sonic and Shadow stories. In SIlver story i made it at the like 2nd level, the one in the swamp/forest sadly. I was little so I just couldn't beat those levels
it's honestly astonishing to see what feels like an attempt to make the game feel much more like how it was originally supposed to come out, i'll definitely have to check it out
I can't believe I *WANT to UNIRONICALLY play or see more of Sonic 06, now...*
Really happy that p-06 exists and really happy that ChaosX made playable proof that 06 had only rushed production in its way. I hope Iizuka feels better about the game compared to 15 years ago.
Man that scoring system is just like SA2, even down to the bounce stopping the enemy chain from ending. So good that he added it to this.
So glad to see you get the attention you deserve with this video. Long time viewer here so I'm definitely biased but this is one of the best of this type of video I've, please consider doing more on other games and projects like this!
So glad someone else recognizes how great the scoring and rank system was in SA2. Easily my favorite part of that game, it just keeps drawing me back to beat my scores even after getting all A ranks. I only just found out about this project, but having a similar system to encourage smart play and replayability is something I'm very happy to see.
I feel like you're taking a lot of inspiration from Nitro Rad and I admire that, man!
Keep up the good work and hope your channel grows.
The only part of this I don't agree with you on is 1-Ups respawning. I don't think that in ANY way detracts from the game. If someone wants to spend time grinding for lives, I don't see why not.
Besides, the original game didn't have respawning 1-ups, and it made things infinitely more frustrating than they already were.
I’m mixed on it, I don’t care about it respawning but I can see how that would make it to easy, like the game over screen he was talking about I never got to see it cause all the respawning one ups, I feel like it makes the game easier and it was only frustrating in the first game cause of how broken and cheap that game was
Most of my deaths in the og game came from dumb stuff that was fixed
Shadows cars Bri
The ball in aquatic base
Mach speed sections
Etc so I don’t think we really need respawning one ups
And getting a game over here isn’t as bad as it was in the og you jus start over the level
I mean, respawning 1ups were a thing until Adventure.
I honestly don't know why, Game Overs meant jack shit once save files became a thing. So really, the respawning 1ups doesnt really detract for anything, and if anything, brings back the simpler times of the classic era
I can't believe that being a Sonic fan since 20 years now I wasn't aware fo this being developped until recently! Tbh I did enjoy Sonic '06, or at least the potential it could've been. I did find myself playing the game many times even though I was aware of its flaws. Seeing this video and knowing how much love is being put into this project, as well as knowing how amazing the fandom can be for having people like ChaosX servicing like this is just... phenomenal. I can't even begin to describe the ammount of joy I feel as a Sonic fan, but I am very happy allcthe same ❤
Bro I need this, this looks so much better than the official release. I'm going to cry.
Holy crap, this looks amazing! I just beat it for the first time on PS3 and it uhh... it was rough. Later down the line when this project is more optimized, I'll definitely download it! I'm looking forward to seeing what Chaosx continues to bless us with.
I've downloaded the game not too long ago and holy shit it's amazing, It's nothing too spectacular but there was one little detail that cemented my feelings of being the best sonic fan project.
In Shadow's version of Wave Ocean if you look closely at the sky box (which I love that it's a sunset to make it way more unique then the original) you can see the moon...But half of it is gone like in Sonic Adventure 2! It's so cool that ChaosX implemented that since the recent sonic games never brought it up again.
I cannot WAIT to see what they do with Silvers Episode and the Last Episode!
I’ve always been a fan of 06 and given that it was my first 360 game it has a lot of nostalgia for me. Seeing if get the love and deserved update that Sega won’t do. I don’t have a PC that would play it but I can’t wait to see everything that comes of it!
wow, this looks incredible! never played 06 but I'm so happy for 06 fans
oh my god this video was so well written and put together, i had hardly heard of this project before this but now im incredibly intrigued!!! your commentary was really informative and i even laughed at the quick gags ^^ thank you for talking about this project
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it! I very much had no idea someone was doing a remake before now. I really hope the people fixing the game see this video cause those fixes you suggest seem to come from a place of care.
I'm extremely happy to FINALLY see Sonic 06 be a genuinely good game! The updated visuals are great and the changes to the character movement and animations make the game so much more fun. Cant wait to see this project improve further and be tuned to perfection later down the line.
Imagine Sega making this game official after the game is 100% complete
Well, it's current year, so it's possible Nintendo will buy Sega and rapidfire spite-ban fan content because they're Nintendo.
@@pokcow01 say no to drugs man
@@BkSonic Nintendo is good though. They canceled the new direction Metroid was going down with other m and federation force, and listened to fan backlash which resulted in samus returns and dread.
If it was sega, they'd stay arrogant and keep making federation force type games, while mocking fans.
@@dinar8749 Too bad they won't do the same for Paper Mario despite the immense fan backlash to the new games.
@@dinar8749 do you know what sonic mania is
man I can’t express how WEIRD this is. i remember playing 06 as a kid, and being so flabbergasted by the mach speed controls that I never got past wave ocean. I was pretty aware of how bad the game was even as a little kid but I couldn’t help but develop a strong nostalgia for it. so being here today and seeing THIS. seeing 06 suddenly look smooth, well polished, and actually FUN is just absolutely indescribable. seeing this game from my childhood being everything I had imagine it to be is just…wow. amazing work
Your voice and precise way of explaining things is what made your realm of the mad god videos so entertaining and helpful. So you should definitely do more commentary like this for other games/topics. You're perfect for the job.
Just seeing you sound so happy about the game is so refreshing, like man, we really don't see too much of that recently. You being happy about it makes me happy, so thanks for the blessing. 🙏
One thing I like about this remake is that it's debunking an often cited myth about Sonic 06, that the glitches are what make it bad. But the fact is that it's a poorly designed game, and this remake is doing way more than just fix glitches
It doesn't just fix the glitches... It REBUILDS the entire game from the ground up to create one of the best Sonic games of our time.
Waiting to hear what sort of fixes Silver is going to have. He had so much potential.
"If you were able, would you go change the past,
To mend a faux pas with one last chance?"
-Dreams of an Absolution
Did Lee Brotherton predict Sonic P-06?
ChaosX: And I took that personally.
I just wanna say ive been watching you for months and youre the reason i got back into sonic. The jokes you make throughout a lot of your videos always crack me up and you actually were a youtuber that I thought i was subscribed to until i checked and saw you werent in my subscriber list
Hey, Bikuribox. Thanks for rocking that nostalgic username. And thank you for this awesome video. I actually feel excited to play this. I wish you the best with your channel, man. Have an amazing day.
silvers campaign was on of the highlights of the game for me when i played it so I'm looking forward to what chaosx has instore for that
17:13 Honestly, I feel the bike in this section should be given a buff so that it goes really fast, the train should be going fast, and the music should mirror this with an EDM style beat, or whatever makes sense in the situation, I don't know about the music for that part.
Shadow’s bike should handle like its equivalent in Shadow’s own game. That bike was lit and made Lethal Highway one of the best levels in the game. Just do that with P-06’s bike boost, lower the reload time for its machine guns and we’re golden. By the way, how do you perform the Shadow Game style chaos blast in P-06? I’ve only ever done the vanilla 06 one which is basically just Chaos Lance with a bigger blast radius.
When you upgrade Chaos meter to level 3 by defeating enemies, just press R2/Right Trigger while Midair to perform Chaos Blast.
Chaos Blast is in vanilla 06. You upgrade to level three chaos meter and then press RT again near an enemy (emphasis on near) and it will take them out. Has nothing to do with the Chaos Lance.
@@bunsmasterbunny Interesting. I didn't know that. Thank you.
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Nooo, it handled like ass in Shadow. And it was slow as hell
The way you explained your analysis of this masterpiece, made me wanna play this every day again.
The scoring system reminds me of playing as Eggman in SA2 for his hard mode missions, specifically weapons bed. Where you want to meet a quota of lock on targets before shooting.
General run speed could be upped maybe 10-20% without a problem, it just has to reach the neutral rather then the slightly weighty run we have now.
To be fair, one of the biggest criticisms with the original 06's gameplay is how the characters felt like they had no weight to them. While i agree P-06 could probably up the speed a tad without compromising level design, at least the controls don't feel too precise or too slippery (like in Shadow or Heroes for example).
Ask ChaosX about it and see what he thinks.
Honestly such an impressive remaster
This looks absolutely amazing
Yo Talwar I'm so happy to see how popular this video has gotten. It's always nice to see a youtuber you've been watching for years have a video that blows up
This video, and the one about the mach speed segment you made, seriously remind me of Egoraptor’s old Sequelitis videos and I am here for it
I'm gonna give you major props just for giving scoring its due at all, because in general, I've seen people disregard scoring in games at large, even in, for example, a shoot-em-up that's almost entirely designed around its very refined scoring system, simply because 'who cares about score nowadays?'
Well, I do. Players should tend to. It efficiently adds replay value to a game. Speedrunning is always an option with real time, regardless of a game's overall design, but scoring is only an avenue of play if devs make it one, and if they can and want to, I think games are just better off with it. I still regularly go back to games like Nex Machina and ZeroRanger because of scoring alone.
Btw, I really like your calm, rational style and dry humor. It makes me take you seriously, really listen to what you have to say and take it in.
I think I'll be looking forward to any future uploads from you. Cheers!
This is awesome! It’s great to know there are people out there who actually would like to fix what didn’t work in sonic 06 than just rant about it all day.
I seriously wish SEGA would do a remake of this game but that’s a wish that’ll probably never come true.
ChaosX just release the Silver update! It looks awesome, as usual.
the fact i dont play any games or know a damn thing about sonic but sat throughout the entire video- i dont know how youve managed to keep my attention for this long but i love you for it you have such a good way of speaking where you perfectly explain the point your trying to make without loosing me with overly confusing gaming terms terms i wouldnt understand ily😭
Dang that’s crazy that this just now popped up on my feed. Glad to see it popped off