I've been a Smart Limit user for quite some time, yet I still purchased this and I think it's fantastic. I have a number of clients and projects for whom everything has to be done yesterday, and I love processors that get me to an acceptable result in record time. Pure Limit is the bees knees for those situations. I'm happy to have both arrows in the quiver...
@@marfaxa I don't even understand this question. My customers pay me to make decisions on their behalf because they trust my process. What are you trying to get at?
This company s making some of the best processing plug-ins out there! They just keep better an better. Ibe been looking at there stuff alot lately. Normally i use izotope products, but im liking what sonible is putting out.
Worth checking for your limiter distortion research: ozone maximizer IRC 3 or 4 transient with character all the way up at 10. Very, very low distortion. Checking IMD is also important for that. Plug-in doctor has it in the harmonic analysis tab
Could you PLEASE evaluate Waves latest offering: BB Tubes? They are pumping this product so hard with emails and affiliate reviews. ALL of the RUclips reviews FAIL to compensate for the volume increase the plugin contributes! You are the ONLY one I trust to do an honest review of the product.
I can see this being useful more for when you are trying out mixes and you just need a quick dirty boost. The final mixes should use more advanced tools.
I agree with this 100%. I have a plugin folder (just copies basically) that is just Quick Go-To's. All it is is basic simple stuff with very low CPU so i can just get my general idea shaped. Ill go back and replace everything and fine tune later. For something like this, like, Loudmaxx gets the job done but this is pretty cheap so I'll consider it.
Maybe worth mentioning: As soon as I add the plugin to my master channel in a GarageBand session (doesn't matter if pure:limit is activated or not) I get some latency on all channels when I record audio or midi - to an extent that I can't really record anything with good timing. It runs on a MB Pro M1 laptop in native mode and "Monterey" OS. Other plugins don't have the same problem here. So I recommend to finish all your recording work *before* you add the plugin to any channel of your session.
I got this for free. I also recieved the focusrite fast bundle for free as well. I have the SSL, Hornet etc. I may try this one out , . But for now, the fast bundle is my goto for almost all dynamic processing.
I can find a parallel for AI based software in music with AI based software in photography. Long story short, if I am a skilled photographer but not so skilled as retoucher, I use to rely more on Photoshop's neural filters et similia, which gives me a good result but not as good as if I knew where to put my hands on with manual filtering or also manually masking these filters. This doesn't mean that there is no AI based software at all I'd still use if I am a skilled retoucher, for example the noise removal tools. Now, let's say the photographer is the musician and the retoucher, the sound engineer and you likely get the same outcome.
It is actually quite an in-depth AI plugin :) But you do need to read the manual to get the best out of it, and understand the philosophy behind the plugin. Personally I do like Sonible plugins and have most of them. I use this to compare with other mastering limiters etc... However, like all good tools it does take more than 5 or 6 minutes to actually understand it. For example I compare masters made with this to those I make with Acustica ASH and DMi Harvey Weinstein. For the money, it is excellent.
That moment when your iris turns a little green in the vid. 🙂(around 8.03) That being said, before buying a plugin I visit your channel, I trust your honest opinion. thx 4 the vid.
i use Ozone elements to get my tracks loud for soundcloud. it has the thing you miss and a EQ, but i think bouth devs have the same idea behinde this to plugins. just make music loud enougth to check it against comercial releases. by the way i think it´s better then the ozone limiter, in terms of clearnes.
I wasn’t gonna, cos I too have Smart:Limit, but then I thought 🤔💭 “Maybe this would be a good ‘Safety Limiter’ during the Writing Recording stage ?! Usually I use my DAWs’ limiter plugins, either Inserted or on a Sub-Group Bus to catch any wild excursions while I’m ‘Kreatink”. But that takes time to set up and at a time when I’m trying to be less Techie and more Creative ...y. However, ... There’s a hefty 57ms of latency here @ 48KHz so maybe not for the Songwriting Safety Limiter role, after all. BUT at the Intro+Loyalty discount it’s a steal anyway. I think I’ve just convinced myself … I won’t be calling Pluginaholics Anonymous … cos I don’t want to Stop 🤪
actually looks usable. Is it very CPU-friendly? I'm thinking like a CPU friendly, yet good enough limiter to simply put on your master in production to "produce into" and take off at the end. But that's only reasonable if it is very CPU-friendly, otherwise I don't really see the point.
Quick question -I see you set the true peak to -1 but if you look the peak got to -0.9, which is technically above -1, why does that happen and how do you avoid it?
I guess 0.1 dB is a negligible margin of error in the measurement of different plugins - at least for us home recorders who are the target group for such a cheap plugin.
I'm always kinda interested in simple "limiting" plugs.. So We'll see. Watching now. Edit: The AI part is interesting.. Isn't that what LANDr is? Edit 2: Your mic is too sibilant to listen to. Need to eq high pass it
Is it worth to pick up these if I already own all of their main plugins? I think there is also auto function or I am missing something that it adds extra to their main plugins? :)
Loudness is not that hard, only rules: 1. ABOVE or AT -14 lufs integrated 2. Use a limiter that can gain compensate accurately so it sounds equally loud to the ears with and without limiting. Or gainmatch manually 3. Make the loudness (or threshold setting of the limiter/gainreduction) so the music benefits the most 4. Disable the gain compensated output (so it gets louder) 5. Set the output ceiling to generally what you can afford, RUclips will only reduce volume above -14, not add gain if you're under, so if you are at -14 on youtube, you can't really have -1 peak as it will be 1db quieter which is more a disadvantage to the "competition" than having a "100%" clean conversion from wav to mp3 etc When you measure the integrated loudness, you need to analyze the whole file with the peak near or at 0 in the file. For example at loudness penalty, but there are many measurements tools to choose from.
Out of reach ? good recording quality ? i think not ! in those days we used sequensers, or a personal computer for putting out midi. You are one step behind i think.
I didn't think I would use Balancer much when I got it, but it's turned out to be a big timesaver for quick production jobs on time-limited sessions :)
Its not AI, thats what the complaint should be. I have nearly all of the Sonible suite and they are very good (except the Smart Comp which reacts different on every repeat of the sound - try it on a sample snare loop). Buts its not AI, its measuring the input and doing some sums to work out a good starting point. AI it ain't though. If it called into a huge online library of mastered tracks and learnt what would work from analysis of past tracks et, then that might start being AI. Its just become an annoying buzzword developers stick on their product because its sounds clever
You say you find it difficult to teach about loudness, so you thought:"Why dont I let my fans deal with it in the pub, from questions by drunk musicians?" Totally understandable! 😁
"...which makes some people over there sweat." A few reviewers of your caliber can make or break the commercial success of a new plugin. Wouldn't it be smarter if the people over there solicited your - paid - input at the development stage?
I've been a Smart Limit user for quite some time, yet I still purchased this and I think it's fantastic. I have a number of clients and projects for whom everything has to be done yesterday, and I love processors that get me to an acceptable result in record time. Pure Limit is the bees knees for those situations. I'm happy to have both arrows in the quiver...
couldn't your clients just buy this?
@@marfaxa why would they?
Tone, what services do you offer in regards to music or such like?
@@marfaxa I don't even understand this question. My customers pay me to make decisions on their behalf because they trust my process. What are you trying to get at?
@@MrCJ-lc9ru Production, tracking, mixing, editing, mastering...
I came here specifically to hear Sandstorm by Darude. Disappointed.
It WAS Sandstorm by Darude. He just didn't say it because we just know.🤣
It's darude by sandstorm.....
Sandrude by Dastorm is way, way better. Check it out!
@@briancase6180 It's Da Storm.
I don't know what you think what Sandstorm sounds like, but he definitely played it. 😆
I just want to say, I enjoyed the chill tone of the video. Just straightforward without dramaticism.
This company s making some of the best processing plug-ins out there! They just keep better an better. Ibe been looking at there stuff alot lately. Normally i use izotope products, but im liking what sonible is putting out.
This is great for people with a low budget but still want a good limiter!
Worth checking for your limiter distortion research: ozone maximizer IRC 3 or 4 transient with character all the way up at 10. Very, very low distortion. Checking IMD is also important for that. Plug-in doctor has it in the harmonic analysis tab
Could you PLEASE evaluate Waves latest offering: BB Tubes? They are pumping this product so hard with emails and affiliate reviews. ALL of the RUclips reviews FAIL to compensate for the volume increase the plugin contributes! You are the ONLY one I trust to do an honest review of the product.
I can see this being useful more for when you are trying out mixes and you just need a quick dirty boost. The final mixes should use more advanced tools.
I agree with this 100%. I have a plugin folder (just copies basically) that is just Quick Go-To's. All it is is basic simple stuff with very low CPU so i can just get my general idea shaped. Ill go back and replace everything and fine tune later. For something like this, like, Loudmaxx gets the job done but this is pretty cheap so I'll consider it.
Can you do a snake oil video on any of the toneboosters plugins?
Keep up the good work,I always check your channel when I find some new plugins and look if they are worth it. Thank you!
Maybe worth mentioning: As soon as I add the plugin to my master channel in a GarageBand session (doesn't matter if pure:limit is activated or not) I get some latency on all channels when I record audio or midi - to an extent that I can't really record anything with good timing. It runs on a MB Pro M1 laptop in native mode and "Monterey" OS. Other plugins don't have the same problem here.
So I recommend to finish all your recording work *before* you add the plugin to any channel of your session.
This would be great to throw on the mastering bus during pre production to get an idea of how your song would sound vaguely "mastered"
I like it
The God particle does that, by Jaycen Joshua.
"Stunts like this can only be performed by professionals"
*Sends limiter into +24 dB*
I got this for free. I also recieved the focusrite fast bundle for free as well. I have the SSL, Hornet etc. I may try this one out , . But for now, the fast bundle is my goto for almost all dynamic processing.
I already have the Smart:Limit, so this Pure Limit is redundant. Could you review the new Slate Digital mastering limiter "FG-X 2"?
I can find a parallel for AI based software in music with AI based software in photography. Long story short, if I am a skilled photographer but not so skilled as retoucher, I use to rely more on Photoshop's neural filters et similia, which gives me a good result but not as good as if I knew where to put my hands on with manual filtering or also manually masking these filters. This doesn't mean that there is no AI based software at all I'd still use if I am a skilled retoucher, for example the noise removal tools.
Now, let's say the photographer is the musician and the retoucher, the sound engineer and you likely get the same outcome.
You should put an affiliate link for Plugin Boutique below the video and not only _IN_ the video. This looks very useful actually. Edit: Bought. :)
Its below the video 🙃
@@Whiteseastudio I only see links to Thomann and Sweetwater. But maybe you updated it?
@@emphatic001 he's put it under memberships lmao
Did it use less cpu than the smart:limit?
I could see this being used as an intelligent Clipper
It is actually quite an in-depth AI plugin :) But you do need to read the manual to get the best out of it, and understand the philosophy behind the plugin. Personally I do like Sonible plugins and have most of them. I use this to compare with other mastering limiters etc... However, like all good tools it does take more than 5 or 6 minutes to actually understand it. For example I compare masters made with this to those I make with Acustica ASH and DMi Harvey Weinstein. For the money, it is excellent.
I agree, he need to understand first...
Odd name for a video but I clicked on it and watching so success I guess.
Really needs to have an auto gain option, and a precise number of the reduction being done
That moment when your iris turns a little green in the vid. 🙂(around 8.03) That being said, before buying a plugin I visit your channel, I trust your honest opinion. thx 4 the vid.
i use Ozone elements to get my tracks loud for soundcloud. it has the thing you miss and a EQ, but i think bouth devs have the same idea behinde this to plugins. just make music loud enougth to check it against comercial releases.
by the way i think it´s better then the ozone limiter, in terms of clearnes.
DMG Limitless, Weiss Limiter, Voxengo and L2 these plugins give you many options to reach any style and loudness plus POWr
Could you do a snake oil on Stereo Tool by Thimeo Audio? It's a multiband compressor like no other.
Thanks for that informative video! I'm thinking about buying this plugin but now I'm gonna check out your review of Smart:limit first. :D
Thanks for another banger review :D
3:32 good one xD
I wasn’t gonna, cos I too have Smart:Limit, but then I thought 🤔💭
“Maybe this would be a good ‘Safety Limiter’ during the Writing Recording stage ?!
Usually I use my DAWs’ limiter plugins, either Inserted or on a Sub-Group Bus to catch any wild excursions while I’m ‘Kreatink”.
But that takes time to set up and at a time when I’m trying to be less Techie and more Creative ...y.
However, ... There’s a hefty 57ms of latency here @ 48KHz so maybe not for the Songwriting Safety Limiter role, after all.
BUT at the Intro+Loyalty discount it’s a steal anyway.
I think I’ve just convinced myself …
I won’t be calling Pluginaholics Anonymous … cos I don’t want to Stop 🤪
actually looks usable. Is it very CPU-friendly? I'm thinking like a CPU friendly, yet good enough limiter to simply put on your master in production to "produce into" and take off at the end. But that's only reasonable if it is very CPU-friendly, otherwise I don't really see the point.
I completely agree... these newest 3 plugins, actually... I already have it in Smart:Limit and Smart:EQ3
Please review the Waves BB Tubes!
allemaal leuk hoor enzo. maar hoe mix/master je n gabberplaat? dat kan jij niet denk ik. of wel???
Still think Sonnox Oxford limiter is the undisputed King of Software Limiters
Quick question -I see you set the true peak to -1 but if you look the peak got to -0.9, which is technically above -1, why does that happen and how do you avoid it?
I guess 0.1 dB is a negligible margin of error in the measurement of different plugins - at least for us home recorders who are the target group for such a cheap plugin.
I'm always kinda interested in simple "limiting" plugs.. So We'll see. Watching now.
Edit: The AI part is interesting.. Isn't that what LANDr is?
Edit 2: Your mic is too sibilant to listen to. Need to eq high pass it
High passing the mic wouldn’t help with sibilance, if anything it would make
It worse. And you probably just have bad speakers.
Is it worth to pick up these if I already own all of their main plugins? I think there is also auto function or I am missing something that it adds extra to their main plugins? :)
So they took a nip from their smart limiter and made it one knob and priced at 49rrp, but offered at 25 to account holders currently....
Nieuwe video, nice man
“Never do this” 😂😂😂
You are the best!
Brillant, as usual 👍
Isn't it basically a heavily simplified version of Smart Limit ?
Take a look at waves bb tubes!
How's this compared to DMG TrackLimit?
Purecomp, Smartcomp, Fast Comp, ... waiting for another Compressor by Sonible to make my decision what to buy even harder. C'mon ...
I may check this out thanks
How do you feel about this being a line/channel limiter?
Loudness is not that hard, only rules:
1. ABOVE or AT -14 lufs integrated
2. Use a limiter that can gain compensate accurately so it sounds equally loud to the ears with and without limiting. Or gainmatch manually
3. Make the loudness (or threshold setting of the limiter/gainreduction) so the music benefits the most
4. Disable the gain compensated output (so it gets louder)
5. Set the output ceiling to generally what you can afford, RUclips will only reduce volume above -14, not add gain if you're under, so if you are at -14 on youtube, you can't really have -1 peak as it will be 1db quieter which is more a disadvantage to the "competition" than having a "100%" clean conversion from wav to mp3 etc
When you measure the integrated loudness, you need to analyze the whole file with the peak near or at 0 in the file. For example at loudness penalty, but there are many measurements tools to choose from.
Smart Limit does sound very good but in all honestly I think FGX-2 in Clear mode has less distortion than Smart Limit. At least to my ear!
Price is lower if you have bought Sonible plugins.
$25 - I think it's worth picking up if it saves a few hours a year during pre-production work.
Out of reach ? good recording quality ? i think not ! in those days we used sequensers, or a personal computer for putting out midi. You are one step behind i think.
Correct. I started hard disc recording and MIDI with ProTools and Logic via Apple Macintosh in the mid 1990s. So that's more than 25 years ago.
@@Fastvoice That "Snap" album whas also made in that way, but a mutch more music i think.
It's pretty good for €35 which is about the price of a junk pizza atm....that's what I think!
Jeesh! Thats a lot for a pizza lol
@@TheHonestTruth Not in the UK atm its not 😁 C'mon Putin b*tch...
bring it on. You can take away our pizza but you can't take away our plugins!
I believe that's sandstorm by darrude?
Kinda reminds me of the Nevo limiter/clipper.
Are you trying to scare the engineers at Sonible with this video’s title? Nice.
Yes, it's as if he wrote the title for himself, and not the viewers. It certainly doesn't do Sonible any favours, lol...
lol, this made me buy it.
I'm using it right now, thanks to this video. lol
Balancer by Sonible is free
I didn't think I would use Balancer much when I got it, but it's turned out to be a big timesaver for quick production jobs on time-limited sessions :)
Is it zero latency ?
No - you can't use it during a recording. Wouldn't make much sense anyway because it needs a completed audio mix to learn and work properly.
Its not AI, thats what the complaint should be. I have nearly all of the Sonible suite and they are very good (except the Smart Comp which reacts different on every repeat of the sound - try it on a sample snare loop). Buts its not AI, its measuring the input and doing some sums to work out a good starting point. AI it ain't though. If it called into a huge online library of mastered tracks and learnt what would work from analysis of past tracks et, then that might start being AI. Its just become an annoying buzzword developers stick on their product because its sounds clever
The sums were written by an ai.
Ai software does not mean an ai is included. It means that ai was used to write the code and come up with solutions
As he's squashing the peaks to the ground: "Never do this!" 😅
not too friendly to your cpu if you want to use more than one instance in the project
You say you find it difficult to teach about loudness, so you thought:"Why dont I let my fans deal with it in the pub, from questions by drunk musicians?" Totally understandable! 😁
the thumbnail: i wouldn’t buy it
the video: because i bought the more expensive version
I think for the target audience this is a good plugin. And it has an inflator knob (gimme the lols) :)
Loudness of for example Rock (what i learned back then) is not the same as in maybe DnB or Hardcore. You have to find YOUR values.
Maybe if the AI implements a reference track?
"This whole business" is all about money.
Fun is, unfortunately, secondary.
cant do -4 lufs
you're just playing it cool, boy. this plugin sounds awesome and there's no need for more knobs ;) it is more than a low-budget excuse for mastering
...but for us?
Very low distortion!
-.01 db
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If it's not for you and if it's not for me.
It must be for the invisible deafhtone audio engineers community from A Bothy' secret basement !
"...which makes some people over there sweat." A few reviewers of your caliber can make or break the commercial success of a new plugin. Wouldn't it be smarter if the people over there solicited your - paid - input at the development stage?
Unsufferable soulless music makes it hard to listen to your video :)
First start that loudness is subjective....it depends on a lot of things .
Loudness is so easy if you just go watch Baphometrix's videos about CTZ strategy. You'll learn all that there is about loudness.