In Defense of Papyrus Font
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Written by Syd Cohen & Gabi Belle / syd.cohen
Edited by Owen: / donalds28__
sources we used:
en.wikipedia.o...%2 0font%20in,calligraphy%20pen%20and%20textured%20paper. www.fastcompan... other-most-hated-font
hipfonts.com/p...
creativepro.co... www.britannica... www.vectornato...
/ papyrus www.cnet.com/c... vatar-ryan-gosling/
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━CHAPTERS━
00:00 In Defense of Papyrus
2:46 Papyrus Avatar Logo Lmao??
4:45 hey,.... you're coole....
6:23 Papyrus is better than Comic Sans? Hot Take?
7:27 these aren't real chapters
9:11 polease comment: hey gabi. this video is really cool! thanks!
tags: #papyrus
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Gabi: *not knowing Papyrus was a thing before the font*
Me: *clicks on video thinking Gabi is about to do a video defending early paper making methods*
i thought it was when i clicked on it. was dissapointed, but still watched it cause it's gabi
I thought she would defend the fact that ancient Egyptians learned to make it thanks to aliens!
Me too
I had no idea this font existed till now...
I learned what papyrus (the paper & plant) was like 5 times between 3rd and 8th grade...and guess what? I'm in the US
both the fonts comic sans and papyrus were mentioned in this video
this fills you with determination
Finally Sans' brother is getting some respect
It took a while, huh?
Hating Papyrus used to be the cool indie version of hating Comic Sans, but it's gone totally mainstream recently
undertale real
@@LemonSmug SO TRUE BRO 😭
@@LemonSmug i was waiting to find a fellow undertale fan :P
@@LemonSmug Toby fox just picked the ugliest fonts
And I'll never understand it.
only Gabi could make an interesting and funny 15 minute video about a font
honestly here for it, I love deep dives into fonts
@Megan L i have not seen this video before, maybe we used the same sources for our videos. i’ll have to check it out!
Gabi makes great content but you cappin. There's more than a few Papyrus videos that people like, even the SNL sketch.
there's a whole documentary about Helvetica
Look up “I promise this story about fonts is interesting” it’s an actually really good video about all fonts in general
Papyrus is a font that radiates the energy of the ancient Egypt section of a history museums website from the mid 1990s that hasn’t been updated since 1999 that your teacher makes you use as a source for your high school research project as a scientific source
Confession: as a kid, Papyrus was my favorite font. I used it for EVERYTHING. I was actually surprised when I grew up and found out other people hated it.
Mine was that obnoxious curly font lol
I used it in middle school to increase page length unless the teacher said to use TNR or Arial
i felt the same way about comic sans as a kid
I was more of an Arial/ Verdana man
Mine was jokerman, which is arguably worse than comic sans but it looks so stupid nobody dares use it. I still don't understand why I liked it so much, I would try to use it for schoolwork but they (logically) told me to change it
toby fox is so brave for giving some proper representation to these opressed fonts. truly a hero.
I’m loving how gabi’s content is leaning away from commentary and more towards “I’m sick of this Wikipedia rabbit hole and I’d rather a funny person just explain it to me”. Funny videos explaining shit that doesn’t matter is my jam!!!!
All for Gabi doing her thing but I need to be in the right kind of mood to watch something as aimless as this
The innovation
HELL YEAA
She’s in her silly goofy era
@@pieofchart no yu dont
It should be noted that Papyrus originally did not have lower case letters. Those were added later which is why they don't seem to quite fit in
You should do a video on wingdings. I remember playing around with as a teen on my parent's computer. I never figured out what it was good for
It feels so much more complete with the lowercase letters.
It's just for old designs, like for early internet borders.
Basically just for graphics
In the old days of printing (like, the "literal movable metal block type" days of printing), "dingbats", or "printer's ornament's", were... well... "printer's ornaments" actually sums it up quite nicely, really.
They were type blocks or even _plates_ that had dots or squares or stars or arrows or snowflakes or pointing hands or little flowers or ivy-like designs or really _anything_ other than letters and numbers on them. Printers would use them to decorate page margins and chapter or section titles, add a little pizzazz to bulleted lists, fill empty space between paragraphs (or empty space in general), all kinds of "ornamental" purposes. If you happen to read fanfiction, you've probably seen (or been) an author who uses patterns of asterisks and carets and tildes between paragraphs or point-of-view changes. _This_ is what they have in mind.
Wingdings is WINdows' "DINGbat font" (see what they did there?). If you don't know how to use Word's more advanced decorative features (or you don't _care_ to learn, or you don't have the time, or you're living in the 1990s and those fancier features don't exist yet), you can set the font to Wingdings, adjust the size and color, and just use your _keyboard_ to decorate your text instead of having to deal with menus and downloading and licensing fees and all that junk. All you have to do is figure out which keys correspond to your (or your boss') favorite symbols and decorations.
It was never meant to be "read" like some sort of code; it's just your keyboard pulling double-duty as a basic art tool.
Windings was Microsoft's failed attempt at Emojis before they were cool.
Ok true story: I go to church with the guy who invented the Papyrus font. He's actually a really nice guy.
love that sm
@@itsgabibelle He plays music on stage pretty much every Sunday. He's such a sweet guy.
Goes to show that even good people can commit incalculable atrocities 🙏🏽😔
@@Naveen-tx8be agreed, church is an atrocity for sure
Aww that's nice
i’ve always liked papyrus, but i think it was mostly because i was born in 95 and when i used computers in elementary/middle school it was the only non-boring font i could use that i could still read clearly. it’s still my go-to for chapter titles 😭
I was born in 90, papyrus and comic sans were the fonts of my time and I won't stop loving them just cuz people made it cool to hate on them. Specially as someone who struggles with letters cuz of my dyslexia, these fonts actually made it easier for me to read so people putting them down really broke my heart.
Bonetrousle goes hard and his fight mechanics are really fun, don't know why anyone would be against Papyrus tbh
Same bro. He’s so nice, and funny, and also adorable bro.
A bit creepy if you go on a date with him but he's a sweetheart
yeah, papyrus is a total sweetie, why'd anyone hate him?
Bonetrousle makes me wanna go 200mph on the highway
Yeah!
I liked Gabi and her videos since I first saw her, but she's really hit her stride, the writing and editing and alternate camera angles are rich with comedy and information at the same time. Excited to watch you succeed Gabi!
gabi’s videos are like those presentation parties but only the friend who is good at it is presenting
What's that?
Ayo, 'those' presentation parties? Great to know I wasn't invited to yet another Fun Event
what is a presentation party????????
@@iheartquestionmark1313 This is funny a dental assistant was talking about this at my last appointment really recently... so you get a group of friends to pick topics, make powerpoints about them, and then everyone meets up and has drinks and takes turns presenting.
@@nevadanate4957 sounds fun 😭
i'm loving gabi's slow creep into being an official History channel show, eventually they will have no choice but to include her as part of the canon
The reason Papyrus is everywhere is because it's free, and compared to the other fonts you get free on your computer, it's one of the more unique ones. And also it's free.
Came here to say this, can’t beat free from a business owner standpoint lol
But is it free?
I wish small buisness owners knew they could just google "free fonts"
@@shuruff904 you betcha
@@UshioKiss but is it *really* free?
as the target audience (someone art school adjacent that held deep hatred for this font) this is a really refreshing perspective. You put what bothered me into words (It jumps out more than the words contents) better than I could, ty
Papyrus is such an underrated character, tbh
Ikr
He's such a sweetie. 10/10 would date again.
fr fr
might be controversial but hes the better of the two skeletons
its funny how everyone hates the two skeleton fonts. middle school me had a crush on the short one
hey gabi this is video is really cool! thanks! i love this font, it reminds me of all the signs in my small semi rural town that's full of funky buildings stuck in the late 80s. its truly comforting
I kind of wish this had been a collab w CaseyAonso. Shes so unreasonably passionate about fonts this would have been an immaculate cross over
TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN
Fonts
PREACH GABI!!! I'm a graphic designer and typography nerd and I greatly appreciated this video! Yes, the only things that make a font bad, that is badly designed, are a lack of consistency in style and a lack of functionality which largely comes down to issues with spacing. Huge kudos to Gabi for actually giving the correct definition of kerning! I feel like there are a number of people with graphic design degrees who think that kerning is the space between all letters, which is incorrect, tracking is the space between all letters. Kerning is the space between pairs of letter as Gabi correctly stated. I didn't know that Papyrus was originally bought by Letraset but that makes total sense. Letraset was a company that made these sheets of transfers that would have all the characters of a font in various sizes that were used by graphic designers to do mock-ups in the days before computers. You would use a burnishing tool and go over whatever letter you wanted to use and the letter would transfer onto your art, kinda like using tracing paper. Because Letraset was used so much in advertising and poster graphics there were lots of decorative fonts available as Letraset transfers, and it makes complete sense that Papyrus was one of them. The thing the designer never would have anticipated was that this decorative font that was meant to evoke something very specific would be given to the masses to be used for any random thing. My frustration with the hate towards Papyrus is exactly what Gabi explained, that it has appropriate uses and in the right context is perfectly fine, but it shouldn't be used for everything bc it has a very specific look. I love the designs on the Arizona Iced Tea cans, Papyrus is totally appropriate there, and I see nothing wrong with any vaguely mediterranean restaurant using Papyrus, that is what it was meant for! But it was designed for a different era. Nowadays a lot of decorative fonts have tons of alternate characters, come with border elements and cool symbols and dingbats and really give the user the ability to create logo designs with the font elements alone. Papyrus is decorative font that is very of its time and feels one-dimensional compared to what newer fonts can do, but it was well designed and doesn't deserved to be loathed (and judged) by so many... (especially bc so many of its most vocal opponents don't know jack shit about typography and use fonts that actually are badly designed (i.e. free fonts from dafont) without even realizing it....bc they don't understand that consistency and spacing are what make font design extremely difficult and Papyrus was actually designed by a pro)
Toby Fox has done so much to make both Comic Sans and Papyrus good again
I am laughing so hard😂 Also I was waiting for you to mention Papyrus from Undertale and I am glad you did😂
this video truly touched my heart in a way only a 15 minute video about papyrus could
why must the undertale skeleton fonts be hated?
Everyone was thinking about Undertale while my ancient brain was thinking of paper
Lol same
Everyone was thinking about Undertale and paper, while I was thinking of the 2000 Gameboy Colour game Papyrus
I don’t understand how anyone could hate sans and papyrus, they’re great characters!
can we appreciate gabi for breathing bc so many ppl stop every day
Yessssss it must be so hardddddddd😩😫✋
She better never stop
yoooo
Nothing is real...really.... breathing is no diff
This comment wild
I genuinely LOVE those new presentation style videos Gabi's been doing a lot of recently. They're always hilarious and leave room for a lot of creativity. Keep em up
Hey Gabi, this video is really cool! Thanks! I love when creators include chapters for my viewing benefit!
i don't get why anyone would hate on papyrus, his boss theme is really good and he's a really likable character. definitely one of my favorites in the game
(nyeh heh heh)
The paper? The font? The character?
Doesn’t matter they are all awesome.
This is perfect!!!! Im teaching my 7th grade students about proper presentation skills. This is a perfect example of how good presentation delivery can really make a difference.
"Is the font consistent?"
Yes, I get a stroke just looking at it every time.
i have absolutely no idea where this came from but when i was in middle school, we weren’t allowed to print anything with the papyrus font because we were told that it was a virus and would ruin all the printers in the school
Thank you gabi. I just realised that the restaurant logo design that my parents made for their restaurant uses the papyrus font and now I don’t know what to feel about it
And I cannot un-know this knowledge.
I found out why I love this channel. This is basically Noah Samsen without the bisexual lighting and engagement with explicitly political topics. Seriously, everything from the editing, comedic style, and memes are like exactly the same. And I think that's cool.
I unironically love the papyrus font. Fight me.
Hell i didn't even know there was such a controversy over a font
Also hey Gabi. This video is really cool!
Comic Sans is still controversial today.
@@marissawolff8491 and it really shouldn't be. Justice for Comic Sans
@@bean2046 justice for dyslexics!
I really can't imagine being pissy about a font in the general sense.
Like, don't use wingdings for a funeral notice, but every font has a place and time.
@@KrytenKoro Well, now you've given me an idea for my funeral!
Wait till you hear of comic sans.
I made an ode to the comic sans font for my 8th grade poetry unit. If I was aware of the papyrus font sooner I might have made a poem for it too.
I’m so glad that I wasn’t the only one who didn’t understand the broken clock analogy. I never once considered that the idea involved the clock not moving anymore.
I knew that was the point, but I'd always think "but what if its broken because its 4 minutes ahead?". Like, it's not that deep, there is no clock, it's just a saying, but I still let myself overthink it until I didnt understand it anymore.
And dont even get me started on "it's like comparing apples to oranges". That one makes even less sense. They're both edible, they're both fruit, they're both popular flavors of juice.
Does the analogy still hold if you use a 24-hour clock as opposed to the 12-hour clock?
@@ChristopherSadlowski yes but only for 48hr days
I just want to say that I love when you change from place to place. It feels like I'm watching a TV show and it's switching scene's. I don't know, I just appreciate that😌😅
finally i can give my input on font discourse…. i’ve been waiting. anyways my personal gripe with papyrus is that it’s so cartoony that it’s always instantly recognizable. like when you look at a store name, or title, or menu, if you know exactly what font ur looking at (as a non graphic designer), chances are it’s gonna come off as cheesy. idk maybe i’m just too familiar with fonts but i don’t like being able to tell exactly what font they used without even having to think
I remember the feeling of pure joy when I discovered this font for my 6th grade PowerPoint presentation on Mesopotamia. But this was back in the mid 2000s. This font now elicits unadulterated rage, especially when I see it used on flyers or to convey something serious. You have to get the kerning just right or else it’s a headache to read. Truly a cursed font.
People of Egypt were carrying around clay tablets around and were like, damn this shit is heavy. Papyrus is probably the iPad of their day.
I've been really enjoying the type of videos you've been doing lately, theyre so much fun and so interesting
I'm one of those graphic design dorks, and I really love this video. It's far from a perfect font, but I never thought Papyrus was a terrible font!
I remember as a middle schooler making an “album” and using papyrus as the font for the name. One step away from comic sans in that setting
Where might I find this album?
@@lukejones0826 on a flash drive covered by hundreds of pounds of junk never to be heard by the public 😂
@@neatboutique1916 I would very much like to hear it, and last time I checked my name wasn’t the public
Honestly, it’s easier to get the clock analogy when people say “a stopped clock is right twice a day.” When people say “broken clock” there are 3 possibilities that immediately spring to mind. Either the clock is in pieces, the clock is just stopped, or the hands are moving but they’re not keeping time, like the second had moves faster or slower than 1 second per second.
10:24 "To my understanding, which is no much" this is going to be my new go to phrase
i couldnt see the thumbnail at first and thought gabi made a video about papyrus from undertale and was SO curious as to why she needed to defend him
What I’m doing at 23 is watching a whole breakdown of the origins of a font….crushin it
more font lore pls
Idk. I kind of like it. I think Chris Costello put his whole papyrussy in his font.
I could have gone my whole life without reading the word "papyrussy" but no, you decided that not only must I see that with my own two eyes, but probably from now on forever associate it with Chris Costello 😭
@@ensommeille5315 My work here is done.
😂😂
Love your take on this! I'd also recommend Linus Boman's video on the topic for more context from a typography standpoint :)
the goodnight moon cameo filled my heart. thank you gabi.
This is the content I want to see!! These recent videos have been SO GOOD! Another ancient aliens pleaseeeee
this is exactly the kind of content we've come to expect and love from you gabi
Gabi, I never thought you were an old guy... so many dad jokes and throw backs... laughing my ass off.... thanks for being so smart and entertaining
hey gabi, this video is really cool! thanks! next you should totally do a follow up on the early form of paper
Can you please do a video about why windings exists? (I absolutely love it. It's wonderful.)
The editing on these videos is so good!!!!!
Your intro was pretty fun XD.
Love you, keep doing what this amazing videos.
So random I'm actually watching this on the 13th of February and shiping of letters actually got me laughing out loud. Love your videos, they always manage to cheer me up and have really helped me when my mental health is getting at me, stop me from spiraling down
Thank you
Happy to see Gabi entering her Defunctland era ❤️
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I agree, thank you for your wise words.
slay
You have such a way with words
Thank you for this blessing of a comment Gabi, you truly are an incredible wordsmith
🔪🧀
aight what did that goofy ahh skeleton do this time
Papyrus? Now this is the content I come to RUclips for
Yo that pink suit get up of yours is Hella cute and looks very good on you. Great video I love your work. Take this 👑
Hey Gabi, this video is really cool, thanks!
True
I deadass thought she was gonna talk about the paper
3:44 Before you started talking about letters I genuinely thought this was a niche video about paper
hey gabi. this video is really cool! thanks! also love when the pinky blazer comes out. it means it's business time babey
I thought Gabi was gonna talk about the paper type and honestly I wouldn't have minded that xD
Lol me too
Don't hate the typeface, hate the typist.
I’ve seen RUclipsrs struggle to make good content about viral topics. Gabi out here making a deep dive into society’s history of humans before with a font
i love the many thumbnail changes and title changes
As a graphic designer, this font was such a joke between friends during college that I printed an entire copy of my graduation thesis using exclusively papyrus
Gabi explaining the Harry Styles joke in advance out of fear of it being misinterpreted is such a mood lmao
Gabi, i think your background bonsai tree is about to fall off.
Gabi is basically if JennyNicholson made short-form content and uploaded regularly.
Based take
I miss Jenny. I wish she'd make more videos.
Oh, so THAT'S why I like Gabbi so much
g with the funny tail goes hard
"Auuu yeah baby this shit is rad as hell they did not mistep in making this a font which means absolutely nothing" for anyone that doesn't read wingdings
Linus Bowman is a graphic design RUclipsr who specialises in fonts and is video on Papyrus is fantastic, highly recommend
Papyrus has always honestly been one of my favorite fonts lol
I have always unironically loved papyrus and I always will
I really thought this was gonna be about the paper and was v confused but intrigued by the departure from ur usual content
All I can think about is Papyrus the spaghetti loving Skelly bro...
when i got the notification for this video i seriously thought it was about him for a second
The Ryan Gosling sketch is one of the best things to come out of SNL.
Gabi's handing out passes like Oprah and I live for it
I must be living under a pyramid, because I didn't know people were hating on my boy Papyrus so much.
I always forget Papyrus is a font. At first, i thought you were making a video essay about papyrus paper. then 2nd was the papyrus from undertale...
You can make anything sound interesting. That is gold. Thank you.
Another great video from Gabi, fantastic wit and humor.
Kinda surprised she didn't mentioned Linus Boman, he made a video on papayrus recently
Finally someone speaking up. Thank you, you are a true hero.
when i was a kid i loved papyrus so much i trained myself to write in papyrus. hearing other people hate on it felt like finding out Santa's not real
Do you still write like that because that's cool
@@doritodorito492 unfortunately no lol, it wasn't very legible on college ruled paper
Honestly glad to not see character Papyrus hate in the comments. Also I’m just realizing Sans and Papyrus are the most hated fonts LOL
i have nothing to put here lmao why did i reply aaaa
If you wanna dive deep into fonts and their meanings, watch Linus Boman. I never thought I would be so fascinated by the history of typeface. He even has a whole video on Chinese American restaurant fonts!
Overuse is definitely the big issue. All bundle fonts from the era of Comic Sans and Papyrus suffer from this to one extent or another. Regardless of how well they’re put together, they’ll never get out of the doghouse at this point. Especially with Comic Sans, there are so many alternatives out there at this point. Done better even. But it just won’t go away.
The worst instance of Papyrus in my neck of the woods is definitely a restaurant in an old house. They model themselves as a sort of inn/pub from yesteryear, and they like to advertise their wings as being some of the best in the state… So yeah, a restaurant, in a building that looks from the 18th-19th century, with a typeface that’s trying to look 2000 years old. 🤦♂️