I'm sending back the electric tractor here's why
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- I'm sending back the electric tractor here's why
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Nobody's forcing battery electric ? Yeah right, you haven't been paying attention.
you are 100% right....I don't watch the hyped up news media junk that's on TV....the hype is for ratings, not for reality and the politics is for votes, not for the people. I'm probably just like alot of Americans...I just want to be safe, earn a good living and be left alone. I don't base my purchase decisions on what Joe or Donald think...or any person that doesn't know how to wash their own socks!! But that's just me my brother
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer We can agree on that.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer And, if you were paying attention you would know forcing this crap on us is exactly what they are maneuvering to do. And wait until the eco-freaks decide that small ranchers/farmers like yourself should not exist. Because that is another thing they're working on. See Holland and other places in Europe. One day, it is going to be your Ox being gored, try not to be too surprised.
This tractor seems like all they did was swap the engine for an electric motor and the fuel tank for a battery. I know it is more than that, but seems that way.
@@frankwrogg2515 Could be, but for me it's not that it's how there pushing this stuff without wanting to give us a choice. I'm not fond of all the electronics on everything these days, it's to failure prone and to much software control. The old stuff you could just figure it out. You won't see tractors that are being built now 80 to 100 years old that still work. They don't want that, there is no control in that. Just like the Ford F150 that it cost over 5000 bucks to repair because of water in a tail light.
I'm guessing the battery life will become an issue eventually. I can fix my diesel. I can "fix" a battery that is done. PTO shutting off is another "big brother" design to keep us all safe. Obviously not designed by a farmer. I back up with my bush hog constantly for good reason. All that said, tells me they are really new to the tractor engineering.
Modern batteries are good for 10 years or more and they are getting less expensive every year. The PTO is just an easily resolvable electrical issue. The larger electric tractors have a separate electric pump for the PTO.
A few years down the road when the batteries wear out many people are gonna start to hear "sorry that battey is no longer available"
never off market will always be available
It's 12v. Not exactly hard to source
@@harryperrier7223
If that were true then Tesla owners wouldn't be so upset. It's not just the power output, it's the size and shape of the battery. OEM suppliers might fill the need, but it'll have to be financially viable for the farmer and the suppliers. It also rather dents the claimed environmental benefits as recycling batteries requires energy and other materials for the casing and similar things.
Seems more sensible to stick with fossil fuels until we have safe and effective hydrogen fuelled systems. The hydrogen being made from sustainable power such as nuclear energy.
@@laughingachilles you can legit remake your own batteries and just order the specific cells. look up how to redo battery on a prius. lots of videos. its the same thing. same with any consumable rechargeable battery. theres only cells made in so many sizes. then the mfg just puts those in the special case
@@Paul.atherton
That will still be expensive. It'd be a lot cheaper to just buy a diesel tractor.
Josh, thanks for showcasing new tech on the farm. The Selectrac i think proved to be effective at what it was designed for, and what it needs improvement in. Hopefully they heed your suggestions.
thanks for the good summary of this tractor's performance. It was cool to see you using it in your other videos.
Good morning Josh, thank you for showcasing new technology! I personally think it’s a cool piece of equipment and I like how quiet it is.
I hope you have a great rest of your weekend.
Appreciate the even-handed approach, Josh.
thanks buddy!
You buy the tractor (or any equipment) that meets your need. It's always great to test (even by renting) new equipment on your farm before you buy. It's always best fit, not cheapest, not newest, not most popular. Everybody's needs are different.
I agree totally!
Great review....thanks josh. love to see new tech in the field and get the pros and cons.....manufactures can make improvements based on your trial. next generation tractors will be better...
This one would be the best friend of my solar panels I can think of 🎉
That's really smart charging this off the grid.. the ultimate independence..
Thank you souch for showing the tractor Josh, I do think in the future if they allow use of revers now or still use, I would buy one for my property, I clear a lot of land and don't use too many heavy implements, so something like that would be a perfect tractor for me, I wouldnt have got to see it in action with out you bud!
Seems like it is a legitimate alternative in the subcompact segment. The way you charged it off grid is nice, especially for those that choose that lifestyle. Like you said, depending on your needs there are going to be positive and negative aspects. I think the biggest negative right now is just the up front costs and then the added cost if you add the solar charging.
My favorite thing about battery powered equipment is the lack of noise
In fairness the solar power can do more than charge the tractor, if you set up your home and farm to use it and are able to feed surplus to the grid you can get a sub 10 year payback on your system.
Awesome for cleaning barns or stalls, no fumes in the building and low noise.
Our TYM 474CH is suiting us very well over here in Walnut Cove. Plenty of power and comfort. 30000 dollars is a good chunk of change for your electric tractor
What dealer did you buy your tym from? I’m in the same area and been looking around at new tractors
@@lawsonlawnandfarm8073Smiths Enterprise in Salemburg
Cost is a fair criticism, though worth pointing out reduced energy and maintenance costs combined with longer life expectancy offsets alot if you can afford the upfront cost.
That little tractor is actually how i found your channel, sad to see it go but understand the why. It is a cool little machine and like you said in other videos its a tool no different that Dewalt or Milwaukee. Keep it charged and it's always ready to go.
It's definitely good for some of those quick tasks (such as grabbing a bale for the cattle in the morning or evening). Plenty of older equipment has the same issue of requiring you to use neutral to run the PTO while stopped. In fact, with that equipment, you had to have it in neutral (or push in the clutch) to stop while the engine is running.
That tractor would be a great starter tractor for a solar/wind off grid property. Also could replace stand by fuel generators using battery banks.
What does it cost to replace the battery and how long does the battery last?
i had a 1947 John Deere model 50 tractor that didn't have live PTO, meaning the PTO like that blue tractor would not turn if the tractor wasn't moving, and similarly, an implement like a mower has inertia that will keep the tractor moving forward after you disengage the clutch for a few feet. However, you could put it in neutral and then engage the clutch if you needed to sit still like for a post hole auger.
My 1959 John Deere model 730 does have live PTO, meaning it has a separate clutch pedal to activate the PTO so can engage or disengage whether moving or not.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
These are pretty cool. We're hoping to get our small farm late this year and I've been considering getting an electric tractor. We won't need a lot of tractor work, so maybe it'll be a good solution. We'll only have one, so will have to compare carefully. Even though I used to be a John Deere mechanic, the idea of not having to wrench on it is attractive. No more oil stains. :)
You may have to look at Solis. They make an electric I think but Solectrac went bust.
it's interesting to hear that it was on loan. my biggest problem is that 2 of my fields might as well be a swamp when we get tons of rain so that's not a risk I'm willing to take...
I have enjoyed watching you explain what the Solectrac is and what it is capable of doing.
Thanks buddy!! It was a fun little tractor
Josh, I am glad you are open to new ideas. How can an electric anything be political? Beats me! When the ICE came around and replaced horses there was a huge outcry from the horse people. Some folks just hate change!! Nice video, Thanks for your constructive comments. Cheers!
That tractor would be a perfect little garden tractor I’m not sure you would want to take it out and plow 50 acres but for small areas just a jump on and go tractor I could see it being very handy
Very small.
If I was off grid and lived way back in the sticks, I think this tractor would be really nice addition for a 5, 10, even 15 acres. Having the battery gen was a great addition, but I don't remember if you ever said or not if the power bank would charge it dead or nearly dead, back to 100% on a single charge without any solar input?? But I think the killer for me would be the brush hog blades not turning when backing or sitting still. Trying to really clean up around a property and having to deal with that, well, it would just suck IMO. But, it sure has it's positive points too!
Thanks for sharing all about this thing and telling us the good and the bad.
It would be a good tractor for a small off grid farm. If there is no need to get things done quickly.
Im very surprised that the top isnt a high capacity solar charger. Also, isnt it extremely quiet? Bet the neighbors in a 10 acre small farm type setting would love it. Also free fuel with the set up you obtained. Super cool job. Now to what i wanted to say... Dang bro... Showing off that gray good job I'm like 12 years older and I want to tell you I've been with you for a very long time not everyday but since about 30,000 subs and you are doing so awesome and I'm very proud of you and your success that you are having and I think you're highly intelligent diligent caring and I know there's no periods in here because I'm talk texting....lol. Anyhow, great job Josh....you the man bro. Warsaw Ric
The amount of power you get from a single panel isn't that much, you'd have to park it for days to bring it up to full, just simpler and easier to plug in.
Getting rid of elec tractor will SAVE THE SUN 😃
lol 😂
Yes, Josh, the tractor should cut grass in reverse. Love yall from North Carolina.
Grew up on a 10-acre homestead with only an old 8N and later a Farmall M. Even during hay season I never put more than 3-4 hours a day on a tractor, these would be perfect for that type of farm.
Now I just inherited a 250-acre farm that's all south-facing side-hill. Solar and wind power galore. Looking at 75hp TYMs and LSs, but wondering if a tractor like this wouldn't be nice to have. The older I get, the less I want to sit on a tractor seat for 4+ hours on any given day.
How’d the loader hold up moving those round bales around? And the bush hog? Could you tell much difference between the electric tractor versus an engine driven of the same size?
Looks great! Thanks for the review. I drive an EV and love the lack of maintenance needs.
Case and New Holland make 75hp equivalent tractors .check them out at next month's farm machinery show in Louisville.
What kind of base price are we looking at. Does it come with cord to charge not an add on. What is the life expectation of the battery????
Cool thank you Josh
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoyed it and I think you did a great review Woo
Thanks for the review Josh. I think electric is gonna improve, but I still like my gas LOL. My mom (mid 70's) downsized and I got her electric push mower. At first I was gonna just put it on the curb, but now its a coin flip if I ride my big mower or push the electric on nice sunny days.
remember....the first cars built were electric...follow the $$ back to the oil rig my brother....I hope it does improve..and I hope to test something bigger soon
I much prefer my electric mower for my quarter acre lot over my old gas ones. Easier to maintain (after I learned to store the batteries inside my house for climate control) and quiet enough I can use headphones and listen to music.
That said, I don’t agree with the mandates, like CA banning all gas lawn equipment this year. It’s a huge cost to landscapers. The EGO ride on mowers use 6 of the 12Ah batteries, which are close to $600… a piece. Thats $3600 just in batteries. And a commercial landscaper is probably going to have at least one extra set plus 6 chargers to get through the day (maybe more sets since he won’t have a place to plug in to charge). So you’re looking at $7000 for the mower, at least $3600 for extra batteries and around $300 for multiple chargers. When a comparable John Deere mower is $3500. Plus with that level of daily charge/discharge use those batteries are not going to last. Just from my own experience I can get about 3-4 years out of mine on average before I start having issues with them. And that’s mowing 1/4 acre once a week.
I think the main resistance from people on electric is being forced to switch long before the tech is equivalent in performance to gas/diesel. I know it is for me. I embraced freely the electric push mower and other yard tools because they had an advantage for me. But you’d have to put a gun to my head to buy an EV because it’s not practical for my needs.
And some of the first cars were electric, but didn’t succeed because fossil fuel tech was superior in terms of range, power density, and performance. And 140 years later still is.
That would be a cool concept for a situation like yours, a 6 HP engine generator, as a range extender, and a solar panel shed to park it under. Use a 48v100ah battery to store some of the energy, to charge the tractor with. And a diverter to send the power to the house or shop while the tractor is out or charged,
I have been thinking about building something similar, smaller, maybe a articulating machine I have forklift motors. I was thinking use a car fwd manual transmission
Maybe two. With a jackshaft between them with a 2:1 to 4:1 reduction, allowing 5-6 forward speeds. A couple diffs with with the same transmission , modified to lock the axles using it as a transfer case, the axles going to the input of the diffs. Using a cv joint connecting the articulated section, use a simple electric power steering to push hydraulic steering cylinders, with about 10:1 reduction in 3-4 gear and about 18:1 in first with 33x 12.5 tires on 15" rims.Baja tread not a rough mud tread, maybe change my mind on that. Build the frame from 4" channel. And 4" and 2" tubing, possibly put the seat on the very back like the old tractors ! Haha, maybe a motorcycle style seat, from like the 30's with suspension! There is all kinds of options. If I did build it
Use one motor to drive it, one for the PTO. . And also a solar shed with about 12-20 ,24 300w panels, +/-. With a battery, maybe a forklift battery to charge from. Unless I can get about 1000ah of lithium at 24-48v for a 4kw plus 240v inverter!
It's fine, for its purpose. It has its detriments. Just a note on hydrogen power- it doesn't like cold weather, either..
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I think it was a great first attempt. The real issue is the pto on this machine
Like all tools, this Solectrac has its uses and limitations. The Monarch electric tractor is pricy but seems to be a better fit (70 HP peak). The real killer app for electric tractors is robotic automation to accomplish routine labor intensive chores like mowing or spraying without a human operator.
Nice of you to show the tractor. I hav a question. Do u hav a link for the wood structure behind the tractor in this vid? Its very nice.
I believe he used Carolina barn builders
carolinabarnbuilders.com/
Not sure I like the electric port on top like that. I know it has a cover but it looks plastic and could it break/crack over time and allow water to accumulate. Regarding battery powered equipment /tools. A lot of people were leery of the battery power tools at first (drills, saws, nail guns). Now battery power tools are the way to go. Chainsaws are next - they are right for a lot of people who have simple requirements. They will only get better with time. Hopefully you will get a chance to try out other tractor manufacturers and we can watch them improve over time.
Tree service guys are already going electric. Apparently hanging from a tree and pressing a button is easier than starting a petrol chainsaw all the time. Plus they run quiet so they can hear each other which is good when you are yelling watch out!.
I won't doubt Electric Tractors are a great concept, but they're not efficient enough for what they need to be yet, and this model specifically (as you pointed out) has a few bugs to be worked out. It's not designed for larger rural lands with mud or uneven terrain, but it would make a great tractor for more environmentally restricted areas (such as the outskirts of California or New York) where land is typically smaller.
There are external devices that keep the momentum of the pto from pushing the tractor along.
just a switch on the dash that goes to neutral and a PTO on off switch
If I got new, I’d go diesel or diesel-electric like Edison Motors is going with big rigs. As it is, I’m good with my Farmall 756.
My tractor (shibaura) hat that issue of didn't stop until the pto stop, the dealer fix that replacing the pto connection on bush cutter ask for that on yours.
Question. Can you get a different tire pattern? More aggressive. Thanks for sharing it.
You nailed the "perfect owner" for it. I think it'd be amazing for a 10ish acre Homestead that needs a little tractor. The 8 hour charge for 4 hour work times kinda sucks, but it is what it is, and most won't run it for 4 hours anyway. All that being said, it would suck for me. I run mine 10ish hours a day for the most part, and I'm not going to remember to plug it in when I get home. 😂
That's 8 hors on 110 volt. 220v probably less than half of that.
@@donbrutcher4501 didn't know that part. Either way, I'd forget to plug it up. Just like my dump trailer.
It is 4 hours at high output (PTO used), much longer than that for just moving things around
If you had a horse, would you forget to feed it?@@greenwoodsbushhogging6704
I suspect it would charge a lot faster from 220 V
The old fords have a ratchet mechanism to prevent the pto pushing the tractor. Believe it would work on a standard pto.
Dang. Hoping to see snow at Stoney Ridge
we had a little ice yesterday, but doesn't look like snow this year....the cows appreciate that lol
Great concept if you had unlimited free energy. Just like cordless tools, you can carry your power with you or you can plug into a portable power supply and be tethered to a cord. Fill your tractor with diesel fuel or get your electric charge via coal burning generator with trickle charge solar energy
Even if you don't have free energy, it is a lot cheaper to run than diesel or gasoline.
The biggest problem with electric vehicles is the lifespan of the batteries. After a period of time they will not hold a charge and replacement is probably quite expensive. The cost of a battery for a Tesla depends on the model and battery size. At $5,000 to $7,000 per module, a 4-module battery pack could cost around $20,000 to $28,000 to replace (excluding labor costs). So how much to replace this one? While you are shelling out thousands of dollars on this tractor for battery replacement my diesel powered tractor will be still working on the farm for the small cost of routine maintenance.
what is the price point comparison? Who much did it cost to run, electric cost?
Around 6:00 PTO won't engage in reverse. Is there a switch that would turn that on? I know on some mowers (gas) the ignition switch has to be in a certain position so the mower will run in reverse.
Love the concept and would be happy to take a 50hp electric tractor. Still a little expensive. But would love it for my application (50acre homestead) and use of about 4-500 hrs per year.
You might pay more up-front, but you eliminate all the diesel maintenance costs, so you come out ahead after a few years, electric motors need no maintenance, think how long refrigerators last (which are just an electric motor and tubing).
Change is hard for some, but it's gonna happen, yhete was electric cars a hundred years ago but the oil companies shut them down, those days are gone, the electric industry is gaining momentum, awesome video Josh thanks
I agree that tractor is to small for your operations. You can get battery powered high horse tractors right now. They can be completely recharged while you take a break and eat lunch. Within 10 years almost everything will be powered by batteries. There is no need for fossil fuels except to run existing equipment. Even hydraulic fluid can be produced without fossil fuels but even hydraulic fluid can be replaced with electric motors.
Do you think we'll actually be able to run combines on battery power within 10 years?
It would work for me as a small property owner and the current tractor is the only thing i have that is diesel. Would love to have electric or gas even based tractor.
I would like to see a 50-75hp electric equivalent with longer run time in the future
I’m curious. You mentioned you used a solar bank to charge the tractor but didn’t mention how long it takes for a full charge on an optimally sunny day. On average how long did it take?
solar bank stores power from the sun, I plug up and charge it at night. Takes about 8 hours from 10% to 100%
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer guess this tractor really only makes sense if you have a 5-10 acre ranchette.
No Live PTO? That would be a deal breaker. Just like my 8N! But I agree, electric has a niche, and this is obviously one. Hope they get the PTO fixed...
I like the idea of an electric tractor, but I think that the battery technology needs to improve. I did see where they are looking into sodium ion batteries. I love my Kioti ck25. However, if I had the funds, I would love the chance to try one out. On my four acer hobby farm. Thanks for your videos. I appreciate them .
Most large battery markets (grid storage and EVs) are shifting to LFP batteries which contain lithium, iron and phosphate all of which are common (and no cobalt, nickel, or magnesium). And the LFP batteries just coming to market now will last a million miles in an EV.
Sodium has even cheaper inputs, but is less energy dense, and my guess is the LFP has been industrialized to such an extent that it'll win this race at least in the near term.
Nice review. Kelly’s Country Life on RUclips did a review like yours for a small country home use, like I would use when I finally get a country house.
I would love one would do my jobs nicely but still expensive
How much is the replacement battery and can you do it at home that's the big question
hOW MUCH MORE DOES IT COST TO MAKE BATEERIES AND HOW MUCH EMISSIONS IS EMITTED INTO THE AIR PRODUCING THEM
I don't build them.....I don't sell them and I don't know my friend. How much emissions are created to build an F150? I don't know my brother
Great information of a electric tractor. My place is to small to have one.
I appreciate the honest review. Electric drivetrains have a lot of advantages and probably could have positive return on investment for some users over gas/diesel. I think if they had a smaller/cheaper option that better competed in the sub-compact segment, it would be a very interesting option.
I drove a plug-in hybrid car for 7 years, mostly in electric mode, that literally paid for itself in gas savings due to a long commute to work (I charged at home and at work).
It was money in my pocket and a lot of time saved in gas station trips. Of course those who would rather listen to politicians or propaganda paid for by the oil industry than use a calculator or spreadsheet will never understand.
Did you pay for the electricity at work while it was being charged if not then that might not be a fair comparison to anyone that doesn't have that advantage
Yes, I paid for electricity both ways. Cost about $.89 each way for electricity vs. about $8 of gas in my old car. @@kirkkw
What you said about the mower blade momentum pushing the tractor sounds like you were using the ground speed position of the pto and not the independent pto position, and if the tractor doesn't have independent pto, that would be a huge design flaw!
yep...there is no ground/independent the tractor PTO only runs if it's moving or the drive gears are turning...I agree a design flaw that was common back in the 1950s
Good discussion. Good tractor. Dig it.
I wouldn’t mind one for our 5 acres. Would love to test one out for the summer
The only issue I have with it is my location. Were our temperatures are 28 to -30 degrees on any given day during winter. That drains the batterie’s quick. Other wise I would buy one and the wood mixer lt 15 battery powered sawmill
anything that's hydraulic will also struggle at those temps
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer yes they do but the tractors once I get them started I let run for 15-30 min then slowly work the loader controller until it’s warmed up. I love it where I live I’m third generation beef farmer on 200 acres taking over the farm my grandparents started. And ordered the tym series 5 tractor that was the deal my dad made me to take over the farm I had to get my own tractor
My biggest question is how long is the life of the battery and how much are they? Second would be the weight difference? Am looking at the new Kubota L2502 HST and the changes they made.
weight is a little more with battery, the lifespan is supposed to be about 5-7 years. Replacement is around $4k so I'm told
Interesting 4K get a new battery or 4K in fuel and oil and possible repairs once the 2 yr warranty goes out on a diesel tractor. Truly I’m not into the EV’s however on a golf cart or tractor or even a boom lift or scissor lift it’s practical and could make sense for a sub or smaller sub tractor. Thanks for the shared insight and info on this tractor.
to show just how far the US is behind Europe in electric tractors:
The French Make a # of them up to 177 HP.
The little ones the French make dont have what the larger ones do. That is an eastly removable battery case. This is for any tractor over 50HP they make. The advise U to buy at least 2 other battery cases so that u can have them charging while u keep working. It takes less then 10 min to change out the battery cases. The reason for this is that it take about 2 hr to recharge a battery case and it least about 1-/1/2 hr at 21 RPM.
I am thinking about buying 2 of the 177Hp to replace my 40 yr old diesels. If I do I will buy 4 extra battery cases with each so as to make it so that i can do hay 24hr if I have to. I am a hay and beef farmer with some chickens in there to the hell of it (about500). I do about 500 acres of hay a yr. sell about 3/4 of it.
My biggest cost is fuel. Last yr I sent over 3K on fuel. If go electric that will be money in my pocket.
How dont talk to be about cost or replacing a worn out battery pact.
It is called a battery pact for a reason.
It has up to 40 separate batteries in it.
When ur tractor says the battery pack is dead that is not true. Only 1 to 3 of these batteries that are dead.
Any one with any kind of skill with a wrench and screw driver can take the pack apart test the cell (as the industry calls the individual batteries b/c they dont want u to know that the case or pact holds up top 48 replaceable cells (batteries as we know them) .
The cost of the cells buy them selves is just about $200 now so with a little work u can save up to 10K by doing this.
If u dont know how or dont want to mess with it there are ppl out there who will replace them for u for about 4500 labor +plus parts.
This may take up as long as 2 hr the first time u do it but with repeating it u can get it down to as low as 45 min.
I have done this twice now with My '13 Leaf. Getting it out of the car is the real work that takes time and then Putting it back in.
With these French tractors that is not so.
This means that more then likely I can now do this in less then 1/2 hr.
BTW but for Elon every one uses the same cells. Littler dif between what everyone else uses but enough so that Elon shit has to use his which cost up to 50% more then anyone else's and there is not h=but maybe 10% more charge in them if u are lucky
Just one more reason not to buy Elon shit.
we live in a global market my friend....what you see in farms in the EU is the same stuff that we see all over the planet. This is just a little "yard tractor" ...that's about it. A homesteading tractor, big ag operations make concessions for bigger machines and longer run times. To put a removable battery on this wouldn't make much sense because most folks that run a small tractor won't have the equipment to pick it up and take it out...and if you're running a 25hp tractor much longer than 4 hours to mow...ya need a bigger tractor
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer man the day that setup that with a programmable route and can side task while it runs is the day. Imagine not having to sit on tractor and get other projects done in the same field so your close by. Give me that feature don't care if its electric or diesel or powered by hamsters.
Wow Josh I didn’t know u had such a big farm, 150 acres. That’s huge. Cows look grt
8 hrs to charge for 4 hrs of work. If it was the other way around, I might be interested
4 hours at max capacity.....a very long time just running around the farm moving materials. Simple...plug it in at night and use it in the morning....honestly it wasn't bad..if you're mowing longer than 4 hours...just plan for it....I wouldn't wanna ride this little machine much longer than 4 hours...most small tractors like this are "homesteader" machines that don't get many hours on them
It's like my Ford F-150 Lightning. Plug it in overnight and you have 300 miles again, except I pay about $12 for a "tank-full" as opposed to $100 for my 1996 Dodge RAM 3500. They tow and haul about the same capacity. Lots of torque in a 3-phase electric motor. Actually, two on the Lightning. My Lightning complements my other trucks, but doesn't replace them. I guess that's the point. There is a place for electric tools, like battery powered hand tools. Doesn't replace my table saw.
Great video Josh
I as well am interested in the technology. But my concern as a northerner is most of the winter my power tools need the battery kept warm to function properly. I don’t know how this would work in the winter
it's a little slower in the cold, that's about all I can tell ya because we dont' get sub zero temps around here
I wouldn't mind trying out an electric tractor. I don't often go over 4 hours of use. But I am concerned with those times that I would need a tractor to run for more than 4 hours. I still would try it out, though!
I have no problem with the idea of a battery powered tractor. I have converted nearly all of my hand held power tools to battery. I do think this particular tractor has some real flaws that need to be addressed (PTO being one). Who knows, some day I may buy an electric tractor for my 5 acre property. For now, I will stick to my dyno burner.
That thing is cool. Id be interested in trying one
There are so many tasks that I have with my tractor that are going to take at least 10
Should have a lot of torque and minimum warm up needed.
I am curious if you would recommend this tractor to a friend or do you like it enough to spend your money on one or does this type of tool need more research
I love the little tractor, but it's size is limiting for my uses. Would I recommend an electric tractor like this to someone, absolutely. It's all you'd really need for a 5-10 acre property or homestead.....I've fed the hay bales to the cattle with it most of the winter. To each his on when it comes to spending money, if a person has the money to invest in an electric tractor....I say go for it.....if they don't...then choose something different. Same goes for new cars v/s used cars. EV v/s gas or diesel. It's all about what the consumer wants. A multimillionaire with 5 acres might make different purchase decisions over a middle class family.
I think i am interested but will wait until a machine like this can work for more than 4 hours
Edison motors has the right early approach that splits with diesel generation
Awesome review, really interesting. Curious what the price range is on this?
I grew up on a small dairy farm in the central valley of California in the 70s, 80s and 90s. I drove small gas tractors and large diesel tractors (not huge) from the 40s, 50s and 60s. I currently have a couple small gas tractors (ferguson TO 30, TO 35, 1951 Farmall Cub) and a 165 Massey Ferguson diesel tractor on my little ranch (20 acres owned, 140 pasture leased). I drove a battery powered forklift for over 30 years. Judging from my experiences, I would never, ever own an electric vehicle of any type, tractor or car or truck. I retired July 1st, 2020 and the never electric lifts were not supposed to go outside in the rain.
I wonder if they are sourcing some of their parts from TYM the axles and rear gear case looks like TYM the frame also looks like it’s a TYM
farmtrac is the source I do believe
Josh thanks for the nice recap on the electric tractor, if you would could you do a video on your solar setup for pumping? I don't know do you have some kind of an app that tells you what your produce and what you use on the electronics of your solar? I'm wondering since the question is going around that when you take the cost of solar and batteries if you have that and you compare it to the paying for electricity your time ahead and money ahead to just pay for electricity . I understand that you may not have that for yourself and I also understand that you need the reliability of producing your own power out there and not having to run a power line out there. Just thought you might know the answer though to that other question on return on investment of solar.
The big problem with anything new now days electric diesel or gas it will not last period eventually the electronics will fail an will cost so much to repair I'll stick with my old non electronic trucks an tractors but I have nothing against the new stuff just isn't my choice love the videos brother take care
I agree with ya....we're over engineering everything nowadays...but we don't live in the day of the VW beetle anymore or the points ignition system..it's hard to escape technology for sure
Definitely seems like a tractor that fills a small niche. It'd probably fit somewhere like an offgrid farm, or a 25ish acre farm that does small animals like goats or sheep
Small? Likely anyone buying a small Kubota or John Deere 25 HP or less. I have an L2501 Dont think I have ever run it for more than 4 hours straight. Grew up on a ranch where we had an L175. We might have used it for more than 4 hours but I doubt it. Usually pulling a hay wagon for 30 minutes and a couple times a week scraping manure.
$35,000 for a 25hp....no thanks. Not to mention how that would be about 2 hrs max use in the winter here in Michigan. In the news just this week here a house and a business burned down due to electric cars and bikes being charged.
4 hours runtime at full capacity my friend....so the 2 hour thing is not something I've experienced. I have e-bikes and havn't experienced this issue, but it is a good idea to charge any battery in a fire proof container
Michigan is a cold climate and ev's have drastic reductions in run times so it's safe to say this too will have the same..good review but this is certainly not economical for the average buyer. That issue with not being able to back up using the brush hog is a deal killer..not to mention the cost. Have a good rest of the day Josh.
Sir , I totally agree with you about being curious about new tecknologies....except when currupted politicians tries to shove it in our throats with obliged regulations. Here in Quebec, Canada, those same politicains want to ban to sales of feul powered vehicules after 2035. Ironically, theses same politicains tell us to reduce our electricity consumption during cold days because of power shortage.
Was very interesting watching your video. Thank you Sir and have a nice day !!
when we stop listening....they'll stop talking my brother.....we're all being fed a pack of lies by the news media
Nice recap on the electric tractor! It’s definitely super cool and innovative. The PTO thing is weird but I’m sure an easy fix for them. I hope you are able to test out some more electric tractors in the future!
the PTO thing makes perfect sense when you realize they aren't changing directions with a gearbox or a hydrostat. They are changing the motor direction. It is basically an electric motor coupled to a 3-speed gearbox. The problem is when using the PTO you have to turn the motor one of two RPMs (Two speed PTO) so now you have a not so variable ground speed.
Little old ford tractors did the same thing. Had to back up and dump the clutch hoping you still had some rotational momentum on the shredder
Electric tractors are like electric cars a bad joke
@@seamusmcmahon1182 Bet someone said that about steam powered cars. Horses are so much better.
What is the battery's life span? What is the replacement cost for the battery? Are there storage requirements for the battery? -40 F degrees to 120 degrees F. Does the battery replacement require a trained service technician and hoist to replace? Are there many authorized retailers that actually are trained to repair the tractor or are they just salesman? I can imagine that replacement parts are primarily a 2-4 week boat ride to the west coast and then another 2 weeks to the servicing group.
$4k to replace I'm told, lifespan is 5-7 years I'm told and heck yeah the battery is heavy and requires a hoist to get it in and out
How about purchase price compared to conventional gas or diesel engine tractors?
I bought a M.F. 1723EB 2 1/2 years ago for 17,500. This tractor when I priced it with hoe was 37,500. It was a no brainer.
@@robertganther3695 But worth noting that you eliminate the cost of diesel and the cost and hassle of diesel maintenance - this tractor will be cheaper over 10 years because the operating costs are so much lower.
I think they have a version with a hydrostatic trans that solves some of the issues you had with it.
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