Hi! Thanks for this review. I do have a comment. At 15:00, why do you ask "which one has the better picture"? My understanding is that calibration is not to produce a more pleasing picture, but an accurate one, so that when you edit to make it pleasing, it is (1) middle of the road when viewed on various uncalibrated displays, and the inaccuracy on those won't take it as far away from your edit, and (2) it prints the same as your edit (assuming proofing with accurate ICC profiles, of course). What are your thoughts?
You are right, calibration is to produce a more accurate photo. I am used to the nice Apple displays for the past decade, so I was asking Godfrey who was filming which looks better, I guess to his eyes. I need to get away from this. All day at work I use an LG 24" 4K ultrafine display, its nice and bright and clear, Apple Retina like, when I get home and look at the same pics, on the Eizo monitor, im like wow, okay thats how they are supposed to look, the LG monitor hurts my eyes after hours of use, the Eizo actually doesnt hurt my eyes, not sure what it is, it could be there is fast flicker on the LG I am not aware of and on the Eizo my eyes dont see it.
@@GuamPhotography interesting. I have a couple thoughts/ideas. (I recently switched to a better monitor and calibrated it, not nearly as good as the Eizo, but anyway, I am also always noticing it's a bit duller than my old monitor, which I continue to use as a second monitor.) I wonder if it would be useful to set up a basic preset to be applied upon import, to implement a little of some of the settings you commonly apply when editing (saturation, etc whatever you normally do to start getting the photo closer to your desired look). Second thought - if the LG hurts your eyes, perhaps y could either decrease the brightness, or even take the Spyder to work and adjust its brights down to the 120 or whatever candelas that it recommends, or maybe not that dim, but just decrease a little to help your eyes. And maybe even calibrate it, to help with training your eyes away from such over saturation.
@@AdamCasada Yeah I think after calibration the white point of 6500 and gamma makes it seem to have less contrast than the uncalibrated monitors. I setup my jpegs in camera to be pretty good already in the Nikon Z fc, releasing a video this week, to show the jpegs out of camera from the Nikon Z fc looks really nice. I dont even know if the provided color calibrator that comes with the Eizo, if it can be used on other brand monitors, I need to check, Im assuming maybe not?? I am so tempted to get the LG 32" OLED Pro, and see how a calibrated OLED monitor compares. Or purchase it and if I dont like it, return it.
I use this Eizo monitor for one more year and made similar experience: due to 16bit LUT internal colors depth I get better colors and more dynamic range of my photos when I look at them in Eizo cs2740. And that’s a problem: when I publish the photos in social media and control then the result on my iPhone, I see the colors look “undersaturated” suddenly. So, I have to compromise and oversaturate my photos slightly at Eizo so that I have an acceptable result if looking at a monitor that is not as good as Eizo!
Thank you for your comment! There is actually a setting in the monitor that allows you to control saturation, I would recommend that you can set your saturation to -10 that would probably help compensate, and then you just edit as normal :)
Very interesting video! We have a lot in common, as I'm also a Nikon & X1D shooter. Curious about what the fuss is about with Eizo, and currently using a 2015 iMac 5k IPS now, I just purchased a Eizo CG277 used to compare. What have you concluded about the difference between the two monitors when doing still photo editing? And, are you using Adobe RGB color space on the Eizo vs. Apple's P3? That should make for some difference right there.
Congrats on your Eizo monitor! I am editing in sRGB since most of my work is online, so my CS2740 is calibrated to that color profile at 160 cd/m2 - I notice that the screen is very uniform, even on a white google doc, very uniform, and that makes editing very accurate, the colors also when calibrated is very smooth and nice, what I mean is the gradients are there, IPS glow is starting not to bother me when I'm on it.
Yes, the monitor I got used from B&H, if I remember correctly it was only used maybe 30 hours, so it seemed like someone was testing it, and then returned it. Oh thanks, didnt know .12cd/m2 in black level is considered good :)
hi how are you? have you made the video of upgrading your eizo color profiles as you said in this video, if plz send the link. BTW great video very natural and clear. thank you
Got the CS2731 today and packed it up again after 45 minutes, the IPS Glow is just too bad for the price. My current EIZO CX240 from 2012 doesn't have ANY glow and was the same price. It's a real shame seeing a brand like EIZO cheap out on expensive monitors.
@@GuamPhotography I think personally for me the best next move is OLED, but i'm still unsure about it due burn-in. Then again i'm a low brightness user so that will also hel pa great deal.
The apple monitor cant be calibrated. Not hardware anyway. What you can do is profiling the monitor, but that only means that you are adjusting the computers graphic card. And the result is that you will get an more even mac monitor but with a lot less hues.
Total waste of my time. You unpacked the hood before even opening the monitor box FFS?! This is not a serious comparison review as your title suggested. Rubbish!
@SusannaSaunders: Very rude! next time, just keep going. Bad energy. And please don't even try to reply. I guess somebody got to tell you this. Nobody forced you to watch. You had a choice to not watch and move on to other things.
Hey Joshua, thanks for the comment, yes I have to get over the IPS glow, the hood does help a lot, and starting straight on the monitor is amazing! I am just use to the Apple 5K screen, that didn't have the glow, they must of did something to it, but realizing now that the colors were way off! I even heard that after calibrating the Apple 5K screen, colors were still not accurate.
You have to ask yourself who is going to be looking at these images & on what will they be viewing them on. I cannot see the point in spending thousands on a colour profiled monitor unless you are using it in a professional printing environment.
The EIZO destroys any apple display but you have to pay for it.
Hi! Thanks for this review. I do have a comment. At 15:00, why do you ask "which one has the better picture"? My understanding is that calibration is not to produce a more pleasing picture, but an accurate one, so that when you edit to make it pleasing, it is (1) middle of the road when viewed on various uncalibrated displays, and the inaccuracy on those won't take it as far away from your edit, and (2) it prints the same as your edit (assuming proofing with accurate ICC profiles, of course).
What are your thoughts?
You are right, calibration is to produce a more accurate photo. I am used to the nice Apple displays for the past decade, so I was asking Godfrey who was filming which looks better, I guess to his eyes. I need to get away from this. All day at work I use an LG 24" 4K ultrafine display, its nice and bright and clear, Apple Retina like, when I get home and look at the same pics, on the Eizo monitor, im like wow, okay thats how they are supposed to look, the LG monitor hurts my eyes after hours of use, the Eizo actually doesnt hurt my eyes, not sure what it is, it could be there is fast flicker on the LG I am not aware of and on the Eizo my eyes dont see it.
@@GuamPhotography interesting. I have a couple thoughts/ideas. (I recently switched to a better monitor and calibrated it, not nearly as good as the Eizo, but anyway, I am also always noticing it's a bit duller than my old monitor, which I continue to use as a second monitor.) I wonder if it would be useful to set up a basic preset to be applied upon import, to implement a little of some of the settings you commonly apply when editing (saturation, etc whatever you normally do to start getting the photo closer to your desired look).
Second thought - if the LG hurts your eyes, perhaps y could either decrease the brightness, or even take the Spyder to work and adjust its brights down to the 120 or whatever candelas that it recommends, or maybe not that dim, but just decrease a little to help your eyes. And maybe even calibrate it, to help with training your eyes away from such over saturation.
@@AdamCasada Yeah I think after calibration the white point of 6500 and gamma makes it seem to have less contrast than the uncalibrated monitors. I setup my jpegs in camera to be pretty good already in the Nikon Z fc, releasing a video this week, to show the jpegs out of camera from the Nikon Z fc looks really nice. I dont even know if the provided color calibrator that comes with the Eizo, if it can be used on other brand monitors, I need to check, Im assuming maybe not?? I am so tempted to get the LG 32" OLED Pro, and see how a calibrated OLED monitor compares. Or purchase it and if I dont like it, return it.
I use this Eizo monitor for one more year and made similar experience: due to 16bit LUT internal colors depth I get better colors and more dynamic range of my photos when I look at them in Eizo cs2740. And that’s a problem: when I publish the photos in social media and control then the result on my iPhone, I see the colors look “undersaturated” suddenly. So, I have to compromise and oversaturate my photos slightly at Eizo so that I have an acceptable result if looking at a monitor that is not as good as Eizo!
Thank you for your comment! There is actually a setting in the monitor that allows you to control saturation, I would recommend that you can set your saturation to -10 that would probably help compensate, and then you just edit as normal :)
@@GuamPhotography see my post... to conform images for web, use a special calibration in sRGB or P3 colorspace, that's it !
Social media, the Web, and on all web browsers operate on the smaller sRGB gamut.
learn the color spaces
Compression on many websites does the trick. You need to upload your photos to your own hosted storage or share the photo as a file
Very interesting video! We have a lot in common, as I'm also a Nikon & X1D shooter. Curious about what the fuss is about with Eizo, and currently using a 2015 iMac 5k IPS now, I just purchased a Eizo CG277 used to compare. What have you concluded about the difference between the two monitors when doing still photo editing? And, are you using Adobe RGB color space on the Eizo vs. Apple's P3? That should make for some difference right there.
Congrats on your Eizo monitor! I am editing in sRGB since most of my work is online, so my CS2740 is calibrated to that color profile at 160 cd/m2 - I notice that the screen is very uniform, even on a white google doc, very uniform, and that makes editing very accurate, the colors also when calibrated is very smooth and nice, what I mean is the gradients are there, IPS glow is starting not to bother me when I'm on it.
@@GuamPhotography OK, thanks so much. Have you heard of an incompatibility with these monitors and Hasselblad requiring emulation software?
use NATIVE, not AdobeRGB
@@GuamPhotography hm, 160cd/m2...this way you will kill your eyes pretty fast maaaan! Max 120 (well lite room), photo editing 80-100cd/m2
Your monitor looks like it has been ben used and repacked. My EIZO didnt have so much plastiq garabege.
0,12cd/m2 in black level is really good!
Yes, the monitor I got used from B&H, if I remember correctly it was only used maybe 30 hours, so it seemed like someone was testing it, and then returned it. Oh thanks, didnt know .12cd/m2 in black level is considered good :)
hi how are you? have you made the video of upgrading your eizo color profiles as you said in this video, if plz send the link. BTW great video very natural and clear. thank you
Thank you! No I did not, but you can email me here through the youtube channel and I can email the pdf instructions.
Got the CS2731 today and packed it up again after 45 minutes, the IPS Glow is just too bad for the price. My current EIZO CX240 from 2012 doesn't have ANY glow and was the same price. It's a real shame seeing a brand like EIZO cheap out on expensive monitors.
I guess we need to move up to the newer CG monitors to not have the IPS glow.
@@GuamPhotography I think personally for me the best next move is OLED, but i'm still unsure about it due burn-in. Then again i'm a low brightness user so that will also hel pa great deal.
Are you using a clean signal and has this been calibrated? Without knowing this, this is hard to take as useful.
Sorry the Eizo, is just connected to the iMac 27" 5K, via USB-C cable.
The apple monitor cant be calibrated. Not hardware anyway. What you can do is profiling the monitor, but that only means that you are adjusting the computers graphic card. And the result is that you will get an more even mac monitor but with a lot less hues.
Thanks for the thorough review.
You are very welcome! now I'm wanting the 32" CG319 lol..
What GPU You have in your computer? (intel or M1, M2).
The Apple iMac 5K is an Intel i7 Quad Core chip.
Total waste of my time. You unpacked the hood before even opening the monitor box FFS?! This is not a serious comparison review as your title suggested. Rubbish!
Thanks for your comment :)
@SusannaSaunders: Very rude! next time, just keep going. Bad energy. And please don't even try to reply. I guess somebody got to tell you this. Nobody forced you to watch. You had a choice to not watch and move on to other things.
@@viciwo3396 I'm sorry you were offended by my blunt review of your video. But it is what it is...I hope you have enjoyed my reply. 😘
You didn’t calibrate either monitor so I’m not sure why you are running a comparison.
Just wanted to see how it performs out of the box :) I did calibrate later...
Be straight on and get the hood. Pros don’t care about ips glow. Unless ur in the field that’s a different monitor .
Hey Joshua, thanks for the comment, yes I have to get over the IPS glow, the hood does help a lot, and starting straight on the monitor is amazing! I am just use to the Apple 5K screen, that didn't have the glow, they must of did something to it, but realizing now that the colors were way off! I even heard that after calibrating the Apple 5K screen, colors were still not accurate.
You have to ask yourself who is going to be looking at these images & on what will they be viewing them on. I cannot see the point in spending thousands on a colour profiled monitor unless you are using it in a professional printing environment.
Yes thats true, I do love the color accuracy though and the uniformity :)
If you are a professional photographer-videographer yoi definitely need one of those accurate monitors.
AY-ZO, yes perfect pronunciation!
Eizo Monitors all look like they're from the 90's
Hahahha yeah thats true, I do have a video uploading right now, I compare the Apple Pro Display XDR with the Eizo CS2740 and I keep one of them :)
the apple looks modern, but that is it...otherwise really sucks