One of the best fights in the game. Really fun when you learn his move set, and is one of the good bosses in this dlc unlike quite a few others (commander gaius)
the katana sucks. its only scaling is a low B in dexterity, doesnt even get a E or D in strenght or inteligence despite having magic damage, also the weapon art damage escales exclusively with magic damage which CANNOT be increased since it doesnt scale
@@jevmenyt3422 That doesn't sound right. Many items have their scalings messed up and most are Int related. This might be one of them. Look out for the next patch.
I accidentally ring the second bell after he gave me the first map for the first bell and ngl his reaction was funny cuz he thought we were a lil clumsy
Don't worry this stage of the questline is optional. Just to get the claws the invader uses earlier. You just have to continue Ymir's questline and when you'll have to blow the third horn (under the throne where Ymir sits) you'll have your rematch with the invader. You're not stuck
thank you for including the dialogue even the ones after exhausting required talk. People usually cut that out and ive been looking everywhere for the words again. "Those with purpose are nothing if not ravenous.. For Power. For truth."
i hate finding stuff that is half way a quest cause I went exploring, got to the finger ruins just to be mega confused as to why there was nothing to do with it😅
Yes it is in the Bonny Gaol, there is a pot lift right before the boss and you’re going to want to take the lift all the way too the top and that is where the set is
Well, this video just helped me from start to finish. Not sure what point exactly is unclear for you. He shows you the order of the actions you have to do and the ways.
@@Martin.Silentthe very first Insane Cut?? he shows us dragon pit & then walks forward for a second before cutting to a completely different portion of the map
@@Brandalame Well.... I guess that can be confusing to some people. But he was walking from the dragon pit to the next drake and then to the right. From there on it's only 1 way, so i guess he cutted the long way cause it's wasted time anyway? You can also see that big gigantic dragon from far away. But i think i can agree that it might be confusing to people who weren't even there once.
If I had a nickel for every Soulsborne/soulslike character named “manus,” I would have 15 cents. Which isn’t a lot but weird that it happened three times… Manus, Father of The Abyss Simon Manus (Lies of P) Manus Metyr
Now with the DLC out, looking back it seems the thing Ranni killed beneath the Cathedral of Manus Celes was not a Two Fingers but another Mother of Fingers.
@@johnboily561 That was for practical purpose. At the time when the base game was out, Fromsoft didn't want to spoil everything, knowing full well the modding community could dig even the tiniest detail. Miyazaki himself also stated some lores were saved for the dlc. Zulie the Witch the dataminer guy tried to extract the model of Ranni's "Two Fingers" to make sure if it was indeed a Two Fingers but surprised to see the model was deliberately designed in a way that made it impossible for him to make out anything. I suppose for the very same purpose, they carefully twisted the dialogues a bit to keep them as vague as possible, not giving too much a fact that there is a thing called "Mother of Fingers". They somehow dropped a few subtle hints for us to connect the dots when the dlc is out, like the name of the Cathedral and the starlight shards that scattered all over the place.
@@AnhTran-bp1eo the story of ranni is literally her getting rid of her 2 fingers/fate. The knife you give her is literally said to be made to kill à 2 fingers. Everything in her story is about the 2 fingers and the fate they are controling. Stop making stuff up
@@johnboily561 Yeah, I can hear you, pal. No need for Caps Lock. So you think just because a weapon is called "Fingerslayer", it is made to kill Two Fingers specifically? I can tell you the whole story but it's up to you to believe whatever you want: - Marika orchestrated the Night of Black Knives as part of her grand scheme to bring down the Golden Order. - The Black Knives used the exact same teleportation device which sends the Tarnished to Gurrang to steal a fragment of Destined Death from him. - They killed Godwyn to obtain from his body a weapon capable of hurting the vassals of the Greater Will. - In retaliation, the Golden Order obliterated an Eternal City of the Numen, even erased its name from history - the Nameless Eternal City. - The Black Knives then used the weapon to kill all Two Fingers, only spared one for unknown reason - the one at the Round Table Hold. Only after all this was the weapon called The Fingerslayer, because it had been known to be able to slay the Two Fingers. Go check the description to see if it is described as a weapon made specifically to kill just the Two Fingers. - Alecto tried using the weapon to kill the thing beneath the Cathedral of Manus Celes but was somehow defeated and imprisoned at a nearby Evergaol. However, the remaining Black Knives managed to bring the Fingerslayer back to Nokron. - The Golden Order then sent a band of war prisoners to Nokron to search for the Fingerslayer. They then became the Inverted Hawk band. - The Nox never planned to hand over the Fingerslayer to Ranni. She just straight up used the Tarnished to steal it from them. - At the end of her questline, the Black Knives showed up at Ranni's rise to claim back their Fingerslayer. I know people playing these Souls game tend to think they are the only ones who can get the lore right. And Fromsoft loves to drop misleading hints for people to jump to as many different conclusions as possible. If you find someone not interpreting the lore the same way you do, just shrug it off, pal.
on the second finger ruins i accidentally ran of the edge after going down the ladder bc i was watching your vid. but now ymir is back in the chair and no matter what i’ve done he won’t disappear again. pls help
@@pxpieli8379 well actually I found a way. Just keep progressing the quest same as you would and when you find the other whistle location, talk to Ymir, then rest at bonfire and he’ll be gone 🙏
You need to go to another area/fingers temple, similar to the one in the upper right side of the map and sound another hanging bell (this one will give you the Crimson Seed Talisman+1) It is close to the Grand Altar of Dragon Communion. Once you do this go back to the Cathedral of Manus Metyr, expiry dialogs, rest at grace and he will no longer be in the throne 👍 Basically you need to sound 2 hanging bells prior ringing the last one for the boss
Guys, I did the quest completely correctly but it doesn't appear when I'm going to do the last part of handing over the Iris of Concealment, do I have to advance somewhere in the story?
Most likely. Elden ring has a tendency of locking side quest progression behind main story progression so it’s probably the same here. Just keep advancing and it’ll all unlock eventually
I found 2 iris of occultations in my playthrough. Imo you should give the Iris of Grace to Jolán since their spirit ash can be upgraded to have a 2nd person with them when you summon it.
Weird, i was able to get under the throne after the first blow because he was gone, killed the invader but i couldnt use the finger horn, progressed through the quest and now it seems to be fine, weird game lol
Never mind, I figured it out, during the second finger dungeon after you drain the water you go back down to the entrance grace and traverse down the elevator to the left, as you walk up to the tree there will be a tree spirit there for you to end. And once you leave the dungeon the item appears
Very upset the quest is bugged out, i killed the finger guy and my game hard froze, now i summon the chick again but the boss never shows up. Cant get him to show up anymore and i dont have his items.
Not only is this video done horribly but he has u do every thing in an order that breaks the game where u cant go underneath the chair because you are supposed to do that at the end
I didn't realize it was a long fall, I fell and didn't take the ladder and when I came back he was back in the chair and it was closed. Is there anything I can do to get the chair to open again?
are you referring to the full heal item? sadly no though it is a usable items it has major lore implications since it was an item Marika herself made for Mesmer but he discarded it
Finally, attire worthy of the quote: "Try finger, but hole."
Do you get the armor?
Instructions unclear, I’ve been fighting Mesmer for 3 hrs
It's not even fun at this point
I actually loved his fight. Bloodhound fang works very well. Took probably 20 attempts or so? Nothing felt unfair
@@humantwist-offcap9514bloodhounds fang works on anything 😂😂
Skill issue @@User37717
One of the best fights in the game. Really fun when you learn his move set, and is one of the good bosses in this dlc unlike quite a few others (commander gaius)
So this quest reward is either double summon swordfighter or cool ass katana.
Yep.....the katana is great init
the katana sucks.
its only scaling is a low B in dexterity, doesnt even get a E or D in strenght or inteligence despite having magic damage, also the weapon art damage escales exclusively with magic damage which CANNOT be increased since it doesnt scale
@@jevmenyt3422 That doesn't sound right. Many items have their scalings messed up and most are Int related. This might be one of them. Look out for the next patch.
Guys i killed the last boss can i still so this ??
FUUUCK
I accidentally ring the second bell after he gave me the first map for the first bell and ngl his reaction was funny cuz he thought we were a lil clumsy
I died to the invader under the chair and cant get back
Neither.
@@CarnisRex how do I get back down there
@@yato7848 No idea, reloading the area, exiting the game, or resting at a Grace doesn't work.
Don't worry this stage of the questline is optional. Just to get the claws the invader uses earlier. You just have to continue Ymir's questline and when you'll have to blow the third horn (under the throne where Ymir sits) you'll have your rematch with the invader.
You're not stuck
How do you get Jolans armor set?
Big help, nice one bro. Also insane clutch at the end there!
Guys , to get the iris of occultation , you’ll need to kill that flooded tree spiriti after draining the water on that castle!
Not true i didnt kill that thing and i had it
@@Botmoppertheking so probably has another way to get it , but i had to kill it
@@Botmoppertheking It's true. There are more than one.
there was another with the omenkiller in the fort with the winged black knighg
Theres an easy one in the fort of reprimand
thank you for including the dialogue even the ones after exhausting required talk. People usually cut that out and ive been looking everywhere for the words again. "Those with purpose are nothing if not ravenous.. For Power. For truth."
yeah, cut more footage bro, i almost see the exact point and map.
womp womp bro just look around and u wont have problems
Why are people so stupid, why?
@@adamg3j768 seems like you need to " just look around" since you’re watching the same video as this guy/girl.
How are people following this guide? The first dragon pit waypoint makes zero sense. Woeful guide
@@adamg3j768says the dumb ass on the same video as everyone else 😂. Ironic
i hate finding stuff that is half way a quest cause I went exploring, got to the finger ruins just to be mega confused as to why there was nothing to do with it😅
And people said this was a final boss😂
Hidetaka Miyazaki is a FRAUD
and people said he was female lmao
This isn’t the one people are calling a final boss lmao, there’s a different Mother of Fingers at the end of a different questline
@@steampunker3843which?
@@steampunker3843 It's still this questline, you fight Metyr before Ymir, it's in this video. They just both share the same title
Where do you get Jolan's set?
I think it’s in the Bonny Gaol can’t remember if that’s right
Yes it is in the Bonny Gaol, there is a pot lift right before the boss and you’re going to want to take the lift all the way too the top and that is where the set is
So I died to the swordhand of Anna and now ymir won't leave his chair.. am I lock out of the quest now?
u found solution?
Same
you have to find all finger whistles, i had only 2 before
i've seen many bad guides out here, but holy fuck this is a new level of it
Well, this video just helped me from start to finish. Not sure what point exactly is unclear for you. He shows you the order of the actions you have to do and the ways.
@@Martin.Silentthe very first Insane Cut?? he shows us dragon pit & then walks forward for a second before cutting to a completely different portion of the map
@@Brandalame Well.... I guess that can be confusing to some people. But he was walking from the dragon pit to the next drake and then to the right. From there on it's only 1 way, so i guess he cutted the long way cause it's wasted time anyway? You can also see that big gigantic dragon from far away.
But i think i can agree that it might be confusing to people who weren't even there once.
I love this quest. Spirit ashes are my favorite thing ever and you can even enhance it!
If I had a nickel for every Soulsborne/soulslike character named “manus,” I would have 15 cents. Which isn’t a lot but weird that it happened three times…
Manus, Father of The Abyss
Simon Manus (Lies of P)
Manus Metyr
you can go to the right of the dragon keep riding on its wing until u see a finger on ur right and then keep going down it
Reached Rhia before talking to him and was roaming around cluelessly 😂 How did I miss this dude?!
Now with the DLC out, looking back it seems the thing Ranni killed beneath the Cathedral of Manus Celes was not a Two Fingers but another Mother of Fingers.
It is literally said in the game that she killed her two fingers
@@johnboily561 That was for practical purpose. At the time when the base game was out, Fromsoft didn't want to spoil everything, knowing full well the modding community could dig even the tiniest detail. Miyazaki himself also stated some lores were saved for the dlc.
Zulie the Witch the dataminer guy tried to extract the model of Ranni's "Two Fingers" to make sure if it was indeed a Two Fingers but surprised to see the model was deliberately designed in a way that made it impossible for him to make out anything.
I suppose for the very same purpose, they carefully twisted the dialogues a bit to keep them as vague as possible, not giving too much a fact that there is a thing called "Mother of Fingers". They somehow dropped a few subtle hints for us to connect the dots when the dlc is out, like the name of the Cathedral and the starlight shards that scattered all over the place.
@@AnhTran-bp1eo the story of ranni is literally her getting rid of her 2 fingers/fate. The knife you give her is literally said to be made to kill à 2 fingers. Everything in her story is about the 2 fingers and the fate they are controling. Stop making stuff up
@@AnhTran-bp1eo also, YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE THE 2 FINGERS THAT SHE KILLED
@@johnboily561 Yeah, I can hear you, pal. No need for Caps Lock. So you think just because a weapon is called "Fingerslayer", it is made to kill Two Fingers specifically? I can tell you the whole story but it's up to you to believe whatever you want:
- Marika orchestrated the Night of Black Knives as part of her grand scheme to bring down the Golden Order.
- The Black Knives used the exact same teleportation device which sends the Tarnished to Gurrang to steal a fragment of Destined Death from him.
- They killed Godwyn to obtain from his body a weapon capable of hurting the vassals of the Greater Will.
- In retaliation, the Golden Order obliterated an Eternal City of the Numen, even erased its name from history - the Nameless Eternal City.
- The Black Knives then used the weapon to kill all Two Fingers, only spared one for unknown reason - the one at the Round Table Hold. Only after all this was the weapon called The Fingerslayer, because it had been known to be able to slay the Two Fingers. Go check the description to see if it is described as a weapon made specifically to kill just the Two Fingers.
- Alecto tried using the weapon to kill the thing beneath the Cathedral of Manus Celes but was somehow defeated and imprisoned at a nearby Evergaol. However, the remaining Black Knives managed to bring the Fingerslayer back to Nokron.
- The Golden Order then sent a band of war prisoners to Nokron to search for the Fingerslayer. They then became the Inverted Hawk band.
- The Nox never planned to hand over the Fingerslayer to Ranni. She just straight up used the Tarnished to steal it from them.
- At the end of her questline, the Black Knives showed up at Ranni's rise to claim back their Fingerslayer.
I know people playing these Souls game tend to think they are the only ones who can get the lore right. And Fromsoft loves to drop misleading hints for people to jump to as many different conclusions as possible. If you find someone not interpreting the lore the same way you do, just shrug it off, pal.
Bro a think you need rest 😂,good job bro
on the second finger ruins i accidentally ran of the edge after going down the ladder bc i was watching your vid. but now ymir is back in the chair and no matter what i’ve done he won’t disappear again. pls help
Same I need help
@@pxpieli8379 well actually I found a way. Just keep progressing the quest same as you would and when you find the other whistle location, talk to Ymir, then rest at bonfire and he’ll be gone 🙏
You need to go to another area/fingers temple, similar to the one in the upper right side of the map and sound another hanging bell (this one will give you the Crimson Seed Talisman+1) It is close to the Grand Altar of Dragon Communion. Once you do this go back to the Cathedral of Manus Metyr, expiry dialogs, rest at grace and he will no longer be in the throne 👍 Basically you need to sound 2 hanging bells prior ringing the last one for the boss
Can you post all of the side quest and how to complete them ?
You didn't mention how jolan helps you fighting mesmer and tree sentinel.
holy shit you life saver was just looking for this
btw the first 2 bells can be done in any order
the places you've shown, are these all the location of fingercreepers? or are there more?
I was so confused trying to get to the Hinterlands. How would you know to do the emote?? Such a great guide, thank you!
You forgot to mention once this is all done go out into the graveyard for the spell.........
can I get her armor? it has a cool Sauron vibe. i love it.
Yes you can get it in if i dont mistaken bonny village dungeon
My favorite weapon in the game but must complete this to get it
it does no damage tho :((
@@DrPhoenyx123 idc its cool af
I fell into the hole under his throne died and now he’s sitting back in the throne. Lmao
Taking the sword bruv, ain't nobody replacing my mimic 😂
Thanks for letting us know we needed the o mother emote until last sexond
How do I get the O Mother emote???
In bonny village near the white tree
Guys, I did the quest completely correctly but it doesn't appear when I'm going to do the last part of handing over the Iris of Concealment, do I have to advance somewhere in the story?
Most likely. Elden ring has a tendency of locking side quest progression behind main story progression so it’s probably the same here. Just keep advancing and it’ll all unlock eventually
Thank you, it was helpful.
where i can find the gesture
as an only caster mage ymir was harder then messmer lol he ports around 24/7
I enjoyed this video it was very helpful
I found 2 iris of occultations in my playthrough. Imo you should give the Iris of Grace to Jolán since their spirit ash can be upgraded to have a 2nd person with them when you summon it.
where do you get iris of grace?
What if yomir invades u after your climb the long ladder under his throne one the way to the third bell before the fight?
Don't cut footage on where you're going
I died in the ladder under is throne end now I can’t go in there no more
Same
Womp womp womp 😮
Weird, i was able to get under the throne after the first blow because he was gone, killed the invader but i couldnt use the finger horn, progressed through the quest and now it seems to be fine, weird game lol
Wtf this is totally different from how I completed the questine.
there are 2 different quest lines with him
Don't forget to go to the grave and get the "cherished fingers spell"
Could you elaborate on the alternative pathing for jolan, how exactly do you get the item thats used to get her katana?
Never mind, I figured it out, during the second finger dungeon after you drain the water you go back down to the entrance grace and traverse down the elevator to the left, as you walk up to the tree there will be a tree spirit there for you to end. And once you leave the dungeon the item appears
@@twistedgrym9952so you got the katana while choosing the spirit ash path?
@@Just_Some_Guy888 no no, used the eye for the katana
@@twistedgrym9952aww i messed up fuck
can you get her armor set?
Bonny Gaol cave
he only wanted to be your mother
great guide but why didn't you show how to get the items at the end for her sword or spirit lol..
I’m having an issue where count ymir won’t leave his throne
Does the quest line get messed up after you burn the sealing tree?
nope, i did it all after burning the tree
Thanks for letting me know! I wasn’t sure because I didn’t want to miss out on the secret boss at the end!
in my Game Jolan died and no corpse..?
Dude is giving serious Navlaan vibes
Very upset the quest is bugged out, i killed the finger guy and my game hard froze, now i summon the chick again but the boss never shows up. Cant get him to show up anymore and i dont have his items.
What do i do if i die to the knight ?
good job bro
But I died when I was climbing the ladder and the high priest did not get up from his place again, what should I do?
fuck , i ended up losing all of my runes when i accidently triggered gaius boss fight in the scaduview . 600000 rubes all evaporated. Fuck !!!
why isnt the spell that pulls you off your horse not in the game
Hey uhh... why did you tell me to leave the underground part of manus cathedral if it locks you out?
Now what's with the sea cucumbers on this robe man.
Ngl i wanted her armor
it would have been nice to know before I could choose the katana....but apparently explaining everything first was complicated
He gave me the 3rd ruin map but he wont despawn so i can progress and there was nobody in the graveyard for me
Not only is this video done horribly but he has u do every thing in an order that breaks the game where u cant go underneath the chair because you are supposed to do that at the end
I didn't realize it was a long fall, I fell and didn't take the ladder and when I came back he was back in the chair and it was closed. Is there anything I can do to get the chair to open again?
5:03 that cut in the montage and hearing you say "go to the right," but i see you mooveto the left, you got me confused here xd
I'm confused the 2nd bell wouldn't let me use it
I killed the pastor guy and got the rewards and died at the same time and got nothing and can’t fight them again😢
I entered the boss fight for Ymir and jolan u killed jolan then died to Ymir and now he won’t spawn back again does anyone know what to do?
if u give her the other grace she dies and u get. a cool ass weopom
Would’ve been nice to tell us where the o mother emote was
Bro how did you make the jump at 11:59 ???? I have been trying for like an hour
thats what im saying wtf
I actually almost overshot the jump
How do i get o mother emote?
How do I get that knight’s Sauron looking armour
it's in a dungeon never Bony village
why do you keep cutting the video at the worst times makes it impossible to know where you are supposed to be going
do blessings of marika replenish upon visiting a site of grace?
are you referring to the full heal item? sadly no though it is a usable items it has major lore implications since it was an item Marika herself made for Mesmer but he discarded it
Guys I’m on Xbox and can’t enter the dlc I’m in an infinite loading screen and don’t know how to fix it help!!
Transfer your elden ring dlc into you internal storage, same thing happened to me and that worked
The buttom to examine the chair wasn't there for me, Wonder why.
literally just the thumb of the devs squishing you this game is batshit
Can you get her armor?
Yes it’s in a cave called Bonny Gaol
Is there any way to get under his chair if you missed out on him being in the graveyard?
Isn't that the same building at the end of rannis questline?
To deliver the iris to Jolán, can you only choose one?
What is that helm youre wearing at the very end against rallana?
Where is the second finger whistle? You breezed by that like we know where it’s at
Why does every boss in the dlc have to be painstakingly difficult?
Should I go with the katana or the spirit summon?
And if u die u can miss an item maybe i woulve liked to know
Anyone else not have Jolan spawn after killing Metyr?
Thank you
Killed Jolan as invading and ur man afterwards and she’s not in her spot( neverming u need to sit at grace and come back
Where is the location for the Anna summon
How did you find out about the twin Anna? that part was so random.
he data mine everything.
Can you alternatively just kill jolan to get her katana as soon as you meet her
I also want to know that.
The church is a no attacking zone, so I don't think you can
Yes hello to everybody this is about elden ring DLC shadow of the erdtree.
What if I choose the first one can I still get the katana
He almost sounds like Rennala but with more talking
How do I get her armor?? That shit is fire