She went on and on about her social media platforms but it turned out her numbers of followers etc were actually quite small. The way she went on I was expecting a million plus.
If she had a million followers she wouldn't need to go on Dragons Den because she could survive on her followers alone. You think 25k is small figures? Maybe to hardcore capatalists, maybe to crazy youtube metrics, but not in real life. Be in a room with 25k people, you'll see just how many that really is.
@@JCstock I think you may have missed my above comment where I said it isn't small numbers, I'll copy and paste it here for you - 'I absolutely don't disagree, it's about 19.998 more than me! I just expected more the way she was going on'
She should have had a business person to explain the numbers, future projection of sales, new markets, strategic vision. She is the creative one and needs a solid business partner like Debra said,
She has NO IDEA how to value a business. Which is why she should have had someone who is a numbers gal/guy. I live in Alabama USA and my niece is going in the morning to get her hair braided, $175 US dollars for 3 hours of braiding AND you have to bring your own hair. This is def a business opportunity, you may have to find celebrity's to endorse
It's so easy to buy insta followers that just asking for numbers is meaningless. If she's grown the account naturally and the 25k followers are all real people then she's not doing too badly.
Maybe in the UK it is niche, but not in the US. I see Asian ladies with crazy colors in Atlanta, really all cultures. She may want to focus on a different market, Aussies, New Zealand, African countries....may be a better fit
She was all bubbly when pitching her business. The moment they started pulling out one by one she went ice cold... What better sign that her whole persona was a fascade.
I see it as a substantial potential if she had a brilliant business manager and marketing and public relations person this could really take off. Would need a good A list celebrity endorsement, have her dancers wear it on stage on videos perhaps in a movie. Hair extensions are here to stay... I even see men wearing them and parts of California and Miami Beach.
Kind of reminds me of the episode with the block selling custom fit condoms, and they were ragging on him and his business model for having all the different sizes in stock when only the most popular sizes would see the majority of but he has to keep all sizes in stock as that’s his USP. But then this woman has those hideously ugly and tacky looking colours when it’s just the black and grey that sells the most, it’s really super hypocritical. The condom guy was actually super articulate and professional and went on to great success with it.
I checked out her social media accounts. Her twitter and insta have been suspended due to rule violations. Her RUclips was updated an year ago. Also she has a blog.
Kinda sounded like every influencer I've ever heard of in the reddit Choosing Beggars. Followers on social media do not equal customers in the majority, and does not indicate worth of a company/product
The dragons don't give a damn how many followers you have. What's important is your sales and business growth/potential. Don't get caught up in the hype
@@Thepopcornator if she had a million followers but only selling 30k, that would worry me I'd be thinking: Why isn't she selling more? Why aren't they buying? Are they just following due to the colourful & cheery mood her posts bring?
She should've said her market was cosplay peeps and those working in adult entertainment. Plus in America weave is a billion dollar industry. I can look around any neighborhood in my city and see ladies walking around in these ridiculous colors.
I mean in America black women account for the mass majority of why it's a billion dollar industry. They will do anything for this stuff. And a hood portion of them are either strippers or some sort of twerk queen.
It looks exactly like the same material that the thick, three multicolored dusters with yellow handles were made of in the 80's and are still out there. It would've helped if the wigs didnt look like rats nests.
She should have someone explain to her that although she is successful at what she has done so far, making and selling 1000 items and having a business that sells non stop etc etc is not the same. The fact that she has made some number of items and sold them does not translate to becoming a brand that sells online non stop forever.
They do this with everyone lol. Classic Indian wedding music when the brown dude comes in, Reggae when the Caribbean dude comes in. You're noticing this now?
@@rohilthomson no, I've noticed it before. Just felt like commenting on it this time since this woman clearly had _no_ relation to New Orleans so I found it more absurd and ridiculous.
@James Cricket what? I have netflix, amazon prime and RUclips premium. The only TV I watch is F1 and I pause when the ads come on because I hate ads because they're too heavily brick-wall limited and it pisses me off. Anything else I have to prove to you, my Lord?
It's no different than some of the idiotic looking hair pieces that some guys wear, comb overs to cover bald spots. In the entertainment arena this has potential. Need a substantial celebrity to endorse it and have her dancers wear it on stage, it's a potential to take off for sure
@@JazzyMarineVet I would argue that hair pieces men wear are completely different to what this woman is trying to sell. Hair pieces are meant to look natural, and to be fair, some expensive ones can be realistic. This product looks completely fake and as it’s synthetic hair it will also feel fake too.
Exactly I live in USA, my 13 year old niece just got here hair weaved $175 US and 5 hours in the chair. But the undiscovered market is the southeast Asia market China Japan Hong Kong,. If she had a great marketing plan for international expansion that's even bigger than the black hair care market here in the US
Very common occurrence, someone valuing their business at what it could be with a dragon’s investment in the calculation, the dragons deal with this so much but it keeps happening..
She should have pressed the fact that these sorta extensions are popular amongst the black community, that's probably why all the dragons never see women wearing these extensions, thinking its some sort of niche.
She's ahead of her time, Africa has so much wealth... She is probably pitching in the wrong country.. a visionary with potential for growth.. if she were able to be picked up at one fashion house...
Liked the braids and colours...she's trying to run before walking though.. Not investing just now seems right but this lady has a gift and in time will grow and shine...💖
On the contrary not niche she had a product that would go global just unfortunate the dragons didn't understand the product. If this was an earlier series she would have definitely got investment it's against her that the dragons have got lots of Investments between them.
Why did they think 5000 Facebook followers & a thousand followers on Twitter were even worth to mention Even the 20k on Instagram is nothing significant It's a cool business, but the creator needs a proper business partner before seeking a dragon
'It's just me, it is all me..." Peter: *point proved thank you!* Well, well well, she certainly doesn't like being said 'no' to. I guess if she had ventured out of her bedroom, she might realize the Dragons don't care. They want money back from making you the star that you think you are. (Psssssst, and this way, It will still be all about you, chickling). Oof. Her face.
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She went on and on about her social media platforms but it turned out her numbers of followers etc were actually quite small. The way she went on I was expecting a million plus.
Me too. If she had a million followers on IG, I think the response would be different.
Considering that. 20k is a lot of followers..
@@imlewisblackman I absolutely don't disagree, it's about 19.998 more than me! I just expected more the way she was going on
If she had a million followers she wouldn't need to go on Dragons Den because she could survive on her followers alone. You think 25k is small figures? Maybe to hardcore capatalists, maybe to crazy youtube metrics, but not in real life. Be in a room with 25k people, you'll see just how many that really is.
@@JCstock I think you may have missed my above comment where I said it isn't small numbers, I'll copy and paste it here for you - 'I absolutely don't disagree, it's about 19.998 more than me! I just expected more the way she was going on'
25k Instagram followers is, well, a lot more that I have, but the way she was talking I thought it would be in the region of 2,5 million.
I have double and I don’t have a business at all
they probably paid for them followers also 🤷♀️🤷♀️👀
She has good sales so its irrelevant. You could have a billion followers and no sales
@@missloco5914 Sure!
@@missloco5914 how many are paid for?
Touker is such a good sport!
I agree
His moves were surprisingly OK too 😆😆
Yeeee 😊
not always
She should have had a business person to explain the numbers, future projection of sales, new markets, strategic vision. She is the creative one and needs a solid business partner like Debra said,
Yep, the business has potential, it just needs to be honed.
Ok captain obvious
I think many need the same.
Just me who thought it was funny that she was speaking about colors, Touker asks about the best seller, and she says "the black grey"?
ah damn.. just typed the same bloody thing haha
Her mood changed a lot when they were saying no. She couldn't even acknowledge them.
typical london attitude, everybody from there feels so entitled
@@deimantas6937 Utter rubbish. It's a completely universal reaction to being rejected.
Heard of editing? We see what we're offered.
@@calsmyth4483 it's not a London thing but it's also not universal
It's called disappointment and it's a normal human reaction.
"My business started in my bedroom" ...best intro ever! 😂
They always say that 🙄🙄
💀😂
Debra's face when she heard "content creator"..
The way she spoke about her social media account, i was expecting more than 1 million at least
I feel like if she had spoken less about her Instagram and more about the business she would have got an investment
she was picked for a show filler. she seemed to understand that and was just happy to appear on the show.
She wouldn't she does not has nothing to invest in.
They don't show everything on TV. She may have and we just didn't see it
00:40 Did Peter really say that to Touker?? 😂😂
Later that evening Peter was found half naked and tied in one of Touker's Office Spaces.
So THAT'S what he uses them for!!!
What's ironic is that in the newer episodes Peter wears a toupee and comb-over to cover his bald spot lmao
She was either after free publicity or very silly regarding the valuation.
She has NO IDEA how to value a business. Which is why she should have had someone who is a numbers gal/guy. I live in Alabama USA and my niece is going in the morning to get her hair braided, $175 US dollars for 3 hours of braiding AND you have to bring your own hair. This is def a business opportunity, you may have to find celebrity's to endorse
It's so easy to buy insta followers that just asking for numbers is meaningless. If she's grown the account naturally and the 25k followers are all real people then she's not doing too badly.
Charming, colourful, fun and all that, but I agree completely with Tej: way too niche to become a big business.
Maybe in the UK it is niche, but not in the US. I see Asian ladies with crazy colors in Atlanta, really all cultures. She may want to focus on a different market, Aussies, New Zealand, African countries....may be a better fit
Trust me it’s not niche at all. There’s a big enough market for this
@@JazzyMarineVet Asian girls don’t wear wigs. Very rare.
@@buckethead133 "Asian girls don't wear wigs." That may be the stupidest comment I have ever read.
13 percent of the USA would disagree. What's 13 percent of 330 million?
You can literally buy these on Ebay already, this is nothing new.. lol
You realise this isn't a recent episode.. right?
@@plank2041 It's recent enough, Sarah is newish.
But saying 2 years later you can buy them on eBay is a bit redundant don't you think?
@@plank2041 You realise that it does not matter when you can buy them on ebay, right? The business lasted unil it got on ebay ;) Nice future.
25,000 on Instagram is actually really small compared to what she was making out.
She was all bubbly when pitching her business. The moment they started pulling out one by one she went ice cold...
What better sign that her whole persona was a fascade.
They’ll be a BLM parade tomorrow 😂
@@beatsandpieces1937 oh please
@@jujunelson-iv3kh 😂
The negotiations can go on for hours in reality. Most of them are fed up by the end of it.
If it was Kenyans Lions Den she would Have secured an investment, her target market is in Africa and South America.
Add to that the diasporan market.. I think she just didn't pitch the size of the industry well enough
Whys that? i know alot of people here in England who wear braids & dreads.
It would sell in the US too
Also Southeast Asia, South Korea Thailand Hong Kong, the young up and coming entertainers in their early to mid-20s.
She only had 5000 followers on Instagram in June 2019, not 25,000
On the positive side I think the products and the business are very vibrant and interesting and she seems like a great, passionate, confident person
I’ve came across her Instagram page a couple of years ago. It seemed so exciting and colourful, I’m glad she’s trying to build the brand!
Anyone can get this on Alibaba or AliExpress!
I see it as a substantial potential if she had a brilliant business manager and marketing and public relations person this could really take off. Would need a good A list celebrity endorsement, have her dancers wear it on stage on videos perhaps in a movie. Hair extensions are here to stay... I even see men wearing them and parts of California and Miami Beach.
Having several pounds of multi-coloured yarn plopped on my head would not make me happy at all.
She makes all of those colours but the black and grey is her best seller? Thats quite interesting in of itself.
Kind of reminds me of the episode with the block selling custom fit condoms, and they were ragging on him and his business model for having all the different sizes in stock when only the most popular sizes would see the majority of but he has to keep all sizes in stock as that’s his USP.
But then this woman has those hideously ugly and tacky looking colours when it’s just the black and grey that sells the most, it’s really super hypocritical.
The condom guy was actually super articulate and professional and went on to great success with it.
I checked out her social media accounts. Her twitter and insta have been suspended due to rule violations. Her RUclips was updated an year ago. Also she has a blog.
Damn. Is she making any success with this at all now?
Her Instagram is live, I just checked it
One of the ladies at my workplace has braids like these and changes colours every so often. I think it's really beautiful!
They look absolutely horrendous.
Kinda sounded like every influencer I've ever heard of in the reddit Choosing Beggars. Followers on social media do not equal customers in the majority, and does not indicate worth of a company/product
Her pitch was _colourful_ at least with the hair.
Calling touker a queen didn't seem like the smartest move, he was out as soon as she said that
i laughed at your comment
I’m Always in business mode when they upload lol 😂
If this was for all races and colours, why not in the demo ?
She is a typical product of Media, just regurgitate whatever the media says "lgbt blm diversity communism etc etc"
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
She doesn't have white or Asian friends.
Does watching this during youse lunch time make me an honorary brit?
Hope that's better, lol
I am also wondering this, lol.
No.
No, especially if you use y'all.
Awwwww. Shoot.
Exactly. Drop the y’all and we can negotiate.
Her products are unbeweavable!😂
😂😂😂❤❤❤
"it's all about the colours".. "what's your best seller?" .. "black and grey" ;p
I'M OUT !!!
I automatically discounted them, the moment they walked in.
smh
Have a good lunch everyone
Her "fun, bubbly" persona sure changed quickly when they started to say no.
You can get these dead cheap on Alibaba!
The dragons don't give a damn how many followers you have.
What's important is your sales and business growth/potential.
Don't get caught up in the hype
That's not necessarily true. If she had a million followers, that would definitely pique their interest as a massive captive audience.
@@Thepopcornator if she had a million followers but only selling 30k, that would worry me
I'd be thinking:
Why isn't she selling more? Why aren't they buying? Are they just following due to the colourful & cheery mood her posts bring?
She should've said her market was cosplay peeps and those working in adult entertainment. Plus in America weave is a billion dollar industry. I can look around any neighborhood in my city and see ladies walking around in these ridiculous colors.
My entire family wears these
Nah black women want this. I'm mixed race I want this. My hair dresser comes from London to my small town. The shops in London don't stock much.
I mean in America black women account for the mass majority of why it's a billion dollar industry. They will do anything for this stuff. And a hood portion of them are either strippers or some sort of twerk queen.
@@tamikagreen1119 this isnt about race
@@Albimar17 what do you mean it isn't about race? Black and mixed race women like braids
This business cannot grow but it can fund her lifestyle so, good for her 🙏🏻
It looks exactly like the same material that the thick, three multicolored dusters with yellow handles were made of in the 80's and are still out there.
It would've helped if the wigs didnt look like rats nests.
My cat got into my knitting once, and the result was much the same.
20 seconds into the video and already I was like... Hell nooooo
She should have someone explain to her that although she is successful at what she has done so far, making and selling 1000 items and having a business that sells non stop etc etc is not the same. The fact that she has made some number of items and sold them does not translate to becoming a brand that sells online non stop forever.
Lol? Wut?
@@maxwellblackwell5045 What was not clear enough?
@@athanasiosp. Perfectly clear just not accurate.
Touker was throwing down the moves!
Ah yes the famous LGBT Race
Lol
0.05% of the real population. Kinda a small market. Go woke go broke.
Businesses forget that it’s 3% of the population making 90% of the noise, but they’re spending 1% of the money. Go woke, go broke
And??
Yeah, I never knew that I had my own race.^^*
It seems like Tej didn’t want to “supplement” his investment portfolio with this business.
I'm sure this was already uploaded previously?
Black girl comes on show ...
Editor: "hey, do we have any stock New Orleans Jazz band music? _When the Saints_ ? Perfect."
I’m crying 🤣🤣🤣
They do this with everyone lol. Classic Indian wedding music when the brown dude comes in, Reggae when the Caribbean dude comes in. You're noticing this now?
@@rohilthomson no, I've noticed it before. Just felt like commenting on it this time since this woman clearly had _no_ relation to New Orleans so I found it more absurd and ridiculous.
@James Cricket no, I don't watch TV and I have RUclips plus so I haven't seen an ad for years.
@James Cricket what? I have netflix, amazon prime and RUclips premium. The only TV I watch is F1 and I pause when the ads come on because I hate ads because they're too heavily brick-wall limited and it pisses me off. Anything else I have to prove to you, my Lord?
Pride month = let's upload the one with the black women pitching colorful hair
Right! But Pride month is only a US "holiday" I believe... But I could be totally wrong...
Am I the only one who thought this woman’s hair looked horrendous?!
It's no different than some of the idiotic looking hair pieces that some guys wear, comb overs to cover bald spots. In the entertainment arena this has potential. Need a substantial celebrity to endorse it and have her dancers wear it on stage, it's a potential to take off for sure
@@JazzyMarineVet I would argue that hair pieces men wear are completely different to what this woman is trying to sell. Hair pieces are meant to look natural, and to be fair, some expensive ones can be realistic. This product looks completely fake and as it’s synthetic hair it will also feel fake too.
@@rjj3738 Tej’s hairpiece is very realistic.
Nice products but not enough freebies for me to turn up for this one.
Wait you've been dropped!
Love Touker’s showcase!!
Hair - in the black industry is a huge ‘untapped’ market.
Exactly I live in USA, my 13 year old niece just got here hair weaved $175 US and 5 hours in the chair. But the undiscovered market is the southeast Asia market China Japan Hong Kong,. If she had a great marketing plan for international expansion that's even bigger than the black hair care market here in the US
It's not untapped
Nearly two minutes for them to start their pitch, dear god.
Jenny: you've got multi colour candyfloss stuck in your hair and for that reason I'm out.
I love Touker , such an funny and happy man 👏🏻
She got salty fast
she disagreed with pizza jones that takes some balls!
Well, that pitch was *IMMACULATE* .
Should've known all the fluff at beginning was to distract from the lack of real content in her business 😐
So she's an instagrammer who sells wigs. Good on her for what she has achieved, but $800,000 is a ridiculous valuation for that.
Very common occurrence, someone valuing their business at what it could be with a dragon’s investment in the calculation, the dragons deal with this so much but it keeps happening..
Touker is a LEGEND.
I love all the bright colours.
They look untidy AF!
Why the music though?
Just in time for lunch!
Touker is a gem here!
She should have pressed the fact that these sorta extensions are popular amongst the black community, that's probably why all the dragons never see women wearing these extensions, thinking its some sort of niche.
definitely a bad hair day
When where these filmed?
Hair girl is only worth a third of what she's asking at that.
Right in time for lunch
How many ads do you need on this short video?
Touker is a Legend!😅
Sara: "i"m not in, so i'm out. sorry "
George Clinton would invest in a heartbeat!
Lol
She's ahead of her time, Africa has so much wealth... She is probably pitching in the wrong country.. a visionary with potential for growth.. if she were able to be picked up at one fashion house...
@James Cricket we fear or make fun of things we don't understand
@James Cricket u misunderstand, I'm only stating truth, which as u said, u understand. Not intimidating.
She should go there
Touker is awesome!
I'm surprised, I thought that one was a winner
Liked the braids and colours...she's trying to run before walking though..
Not investing just now seems right but this lady has a gift and in time will grow and shine...💖
I find them to be cheap, tacky & tasteless.
@@steveetienne having some fun is not cheap and tacky!...get a life misery..
I thought she is good, but when I went to their FB page and read the reviews looks awful.
Am I the only one hearing so many cuts?🧐👀👀
She is a sweetheart.
Sweet what? Did we watch the same video? More of a manipulative passive aggressive charmer.
@@TheAvira123 Yeah, spot on - Shes thr kind of person who would turn on you on a second
Oh dear… have you seen the reviews on her Facebook page 😳
To make a lot of money on products selling at retail for between £6 and £15 you need to sell an awful lot.
Old upload ☹️
Dragons catwalk latest hair design - Toucher is sporting a leopard pattern, Dibbs the not dumb blonde look, Peter went to reggae reggae ...
Jenny went out on a limb...
Oh for goodness sakes..........Jennys OUT again?????
Tbh if its selling by the thousands what could go wrong
On the contrary not niche she had a product that would go global just unfortunate the dragons didn't understand the product.
If this was an earlier series she would have definitely got investment it's against her that the dragons have got lots of Investments between them.
Cool lady
But Deborah is right, as always, that she needs a business partner
What happens when it rains????
Why did they think 5000 Facebook followers & a thousand followers on Twitter were even worth to mention
Even the 20k on Instagram is nothing significant
It's a cool business, but the creator needs a proper business partner before seeking a dragon
thats what them dragons suggested
'It's just me, it is all me..."
Peter: *point proved thank you!*
Well, well well, she certainly doesn't like being said 'no' to. I guess if she had ventured out of her bedroom, she might realize the Dragons don't care. They want money back from making you the star that you think you are. (Psssssst, and this way, It will still be all about you, chickling). Oof. Her face.
Unpopular opinion: Jenny is a better dragon than Kelly
definitely better than sarah "im out!" davis!
Is it an unpopular view? I can't stand Kelly..
I've got loads of followers on Grindr, but I'm not rich 🤣
Bet you're busy though!
I'm a Bombay bad boy today! 😋