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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @guessyou1499
    @guessyou1499 3 года назад +852

    They continued on “HOPE & IVY”
    -They are still doing well in ASOS
    -Peter and Deborah are still in.

    • @vegn_brit5176
      @vegn_brit5176 3 года назад +25

      I saw they also sell the brand on Zalando!!

    • @Meg_F
      @Meg_F 3 года назад +41

      They have expanded abroad as well and doing really well.

    • @reecemichael2700
      @reecemichael2700 3 года назад +25

      I really think their designs are really attractive!! I'm happy to hear they're doing well.

    • @0000-q1h
      @0000-q1h 2 года назад +2

      Thanks

    • @Mattski123
      @Mattski123 2 года назад +5

      Thank you for the comment!

  • @khotsopitso3500
    @khotsopitso3500 3 года назад +800

    Touka played his cards very well there by throwing everyone off. He just forgot to offer office space. That could have tipped the scales into side.

    • @michaelwallden7261
      @michaelwallden7261 3 года назад +18

      that is because he has no free space to offer at the momen

    • @LadyHeathen82
      @LadyHeathen82 3 года назад +5

      *Touker

    • @englishbob5106
      @englishbob5106 3 года назад +14

      Touka was being greedy ,but at the same time he didn't want the business

    • @susanwaugh3885
      @susanwaugh3885 3 года назад +30

      @English Bob He wanted the business all right. He had a real disappointing look when the entrepreneur asked if Peter would split with Deborah. He tried to make them believe that they will struggle unless he came on board hence the reason he went in at 40%

    • @Asif-kh-n9r
      @Asif-kh-n9r 3 года назад +4

      He should've also mentioned his "contact" in M&S

  • @HHHKingofKings58
    @HHHKingofKings58 3 года назад +268

    78k is not going to go very far so I'll give you 78k for 40% of your company

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 3 года назад +12

      That makes sense. If he expects to be diluted by subsequent investment rounds, he would want to start out with a higher percentage so he still has a decent share after dilution.

    • @HHHKingofKings58
      @HHHKingofKings58 3 года назад +3

      @@thomasdalton1508 Complete non sequitur

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 3 года назад +8

      @@HHHKingofKings58 It is not a non sequitur. I'm explaining why him thinking 78k wouldn't go very far leads to him requiring a larger percentage.

    • @HHHKingofKings58
      @HHHKingofKings58 3 года назад +1

      @@thomasdalton1508 No, that statement from him and my comment both have nothing to do with the concern of being diluted.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 3 года назад +7

      @@HHHKingofKings58 Absolutely they do. If it won't go very far that means he'll soon need more. That will lead to dilution.

  • @nath272
    @nath272 2 года назад +248

    Nick is the most humble dragon that has ever been in the den. Love him.

    • @fluffyollie
      @fluffyollie 2 года назад +11

      He seems to be honest and upfront. Good man there.

    • @xEvilNeverDiesx
      @xEvilNeverDiesx 2 года назад +7

      He does seem a nice guy

    • @kirstyboyle2994
      @kirstyboyle2994 Год назад +1

      I totally agree 👍

    • @liloa3222
      @liloa3222 Год назад +4

      Definitely. James too. James is so respectful to the other dragons and the entrepreneurs

    • @nath272
      @nath272 Год назад +3

      @liloa3222 Agreed. James, the gentleman!

  • @tarnveerbassi5786
    @tarnveerbassi5786 3 года назад +443

    Nick: I’m out
    Sarah: that was quick
    Jenny: not as quick as me. I’m out!

    • @samael5200
      @samael5200 3 года назад +18

      She was out before the pitch began

    • @albertodemo658
      @albertodemo658 3 года назад +5

      Nick: I'm out
      Sarah: that was quick
      Nick: that's what my wife also says

    • @lee6023
      @lee6023 2 года назад +1

      stop picking on jenny

  • @Do_not_assume
    @Do_not_assume 3 года назад +621

    I just think Touker was being EXTREMELY GREEDY. He tried to downplay their success but he got shafted. He knew they wanted him but I'm glad they made the right choice.

    • @jasminegoertler9549
      @jasminegoertler9549 3 года назад +36

      He knew he was asking for way more than he should have because he thought they would fall for it but luckily they knew that too

    • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
      @user-sf9gs2pg1b 3 года назад +27

      I think he wanted the other sharks to go out by convincing them not to go in so that they practically had to take his deal or nothing.

    • @tiernodiallo1
      @tiernodiallo1 2 года назад +3

      @@user-sf9gs2pg1b *dragons

    • @itszenbaby
      @itszenbaby 2 года назад +50

      Those tactics are so slimy. I remember in an older episode Touker did the same thing, downplaying the size of the opportunity and making the entrepreneur feel like their product needed a lot of work, then he asked for a higher percentage, thinking this method would put other dragons off investing and the entrepreneurs would see him as more valuable. Instead the smart entrepreneurs saw straight through it and didn’t choose Toukers deal. They said it was because he showed a lack of passion for the product, which is how this reverse-psychology technique can backfire.

    • @pauldenby2886
      @pauldenby2886 2 года назад +9

      @@itszenbaby Precisely... Touker played himself.
      And OOF that 40% though... what a vampire.
      Especially considering such a high turnover with good margins.

  • @michaellau2544
    @michaellau2544 3 года назад +487

    Loved Debra’s response: “I stopped at the however.”

    • @glowblank17
      @glowblank17 3 года назад

      @Michael Lau,
      *May you please explain 😫 🤔 🧐?*

    • @juliet7703
      @juliet7703 3 года назад

      @@glowblank17 yh u gotta see is said at the end...

    • @wholenessinGod
      @wholenessinGod 2 года назад +2

      actually you're right

  • @Jamie_Winsh
    @Jamie_Winsh 3 года назад +146

    Even though Toucker pointed out many harsh negatives he never actually declared himself out so he was clearly always interested. These two are very passionate and have done very well very quickly

    • @chique2008
      @chique2008 3 года назад +2

      they are all sly fu***rs at the end of the day

  • @sire5582
    @sire5582 3 года назад +244

    Love how the Dragon's pretended to buy Touker's bs lol. Especially Peter haha. Touker though, 40%??? Comedy gold.

    • @tc5290
      @tc5290 3 года назад +22

      Toukers been watching RUclips and seeing the comments “Peter putting businesses down to make himself the hero”, Trying peters tactic, but failing lol

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 года назад +1

      @@tc5290 LMAO

    • @apocalypsed8
      @apocalypsed8 2 года назад +1

      Or were you believing Peter acting like be believed Touker to be able to demand a better offer? :P

  • @davidmcloughlin6547
    @davidmcloughlin6547 3 года назад +266

    Touker, as usual, overvaluing his worth and pricing himself out of a deal.

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 3 года назад +7

      He's the dragon I'd pick for my business.

    • @chique2008
      @chique2008 3 года назад +15

      @@roberthutchins4297 last I would pick

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 3 года назад +13

      @@chique2008 They all seem pretty good to me.
      Touker, I think, would stick around and make a real effort to get you going. I like him - but then, I like all the regulars. Just a matter of luck.

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 года назад +2

      @@roberthutchins4297 , me too.

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 года назад +4

      Overvaluing?? He is a leader in that area.

  • @kingzoe5534
    @kingzoe5534 3 года назад +321

    I know which season an episode is based on how Peter looks.

    • @Irishjay_94
      @Irishjay_94 3 года назад +2

      😂😂💀

    • @Terry_Frost
      @Terry_Frost 3 года назад +42

      counting Deborah's wrinkles is also a good indication

    • @X.00896
      @X.00896 3 года назад +12

      @@Terry_Frost "wrinkles" is a funny way to spell 'neck folds'

    • @maximoo9861
      @maximoo9861 3 года назад +2

      @@Terry_Frost bit sexist innit, what about counting the men's wrinkkes

    • @Nobody-dm2ol
      @Nobody-dm2ol 3 года назад +28

      @@maximoo9861 Oh shut up.

  • @easycoding8255
    @easycoding8255 2 года назад +78

    They made the right decision. Touker was being too greedy and he would've been a nightmare to work with. Peter and Deborah let them keep way more equity and they'll be more than capable of sorting out their problems.

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 3 года назад +115

    I also thought Touker was playing games by trying to diminish this enterprise. When two other Dragons saw through his ploy and made an offer, Touker stepped up with an offer of his own.

  • @Do_not_assume
    @Do_not_assume 3 года назад +56

    The arrogance of Touker trying to dismiss the business so that the other dragons won't be interested so that he can come in for the jagular. He has lost all credibility. How can anyone work with him?

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 года назад +2

      He has not lost his credibility.

    • @sexpeare8947
      @sexpeare8947 2 года назад

      lol? u don't know what u're talking about buddy

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 года назад

      @@sexpeare8947 And you do, anime freak?

    • @aa4488
      @aa4488 Год назад +1

      Peter does that every time though

    • @kinglionbearali2447
      @kinglionbearali2447 3 месяца назад

      True

  • @yaffajaff
    @yaffajaff 3 года назад +185

    If Touker hadn't been on an ego trip he'd have had it if he'd matched Peter's offer, or maybe even at 30% with a buy-back deal

    • @michaelsmith953
      @michaelsmith953 3 года назад +18

      when you have lots of money/success sometimes you forget how much of your own success was luck and not skill.

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 года назад

      They could of negotiated

  • @4mySweetheart369
    @4mySweetheart369 3 года назад +62

    Touka was being greedy and conniving. He tried to make them feel their success was meaningless and get them to a vulnerable state so they'd be willing to make a horrible deal.
    It's one thing to be shrewd in your business deals, it's another thing to lie to someone just to get what you want out of them.

  • @UTubeTulip
    @UTubeTulip 3 года назад +62

    Nick was probably thinking, I could have driven home by now by the time they reached a deal.

  • @escfxp
    @escfxp 3 года назад +59

    Hilary should have been on the show and made an offer. They could start a new shoulder pad brand.

    • @Landrew0
      @Landrew0 3 года назад

      Hilary was a bit of a looker in her earlier years.

    • @lose8447
      @lose8447 3 года назад

      @@Landrew0 also Chicago bulls best quarterback

    • @vamvam7690
      @vamvam7690 Год назад

      @@lose8447 that made me laugh more than it should’ve 😅

  • @dan003
    @dan003 3 года назад +47

    A great deal for the ladies. Access to two extremely valuable contact books, millions of views worth of advertising on RUclips and BBC, and the opportunity to substantially increase their sales for for just 20% long term. Definitely a gamble worth taking. Given the interest though maybe they could have pushed back to taking back 7.5% off each Dragon after they are repaid, but in any case they'll end up a lot richer for this deal.

    • @3DHDcat
      @3DHDcat 3 года назад +3

      This happened long time ago

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 года назад

      And the Dragons will end up even richer.

  • @alienmonkey6304
    @alienmonkey6304 3 года назад +88

    Peters reaction when touka makes an offer lol

  • @engineclinic
    @engineclinic 3 года назад +35

    Touka would have been the worst choice. Never go in business with someone who says you did everything wrong when the show you apparently did something right.

  • @JonasHamill
    @JonasHamill 3 года назад +40

    Touker Big Bollocks was reading from Peter's usual playbook here. Satisfying when it backfires

    • @bluceree7312
      @bluceree7312 3 года назад +5

      One of the brands failed, so Touker was actually right about that.

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 3 года назад

      @@bluceree7312 Without his investment. Who knows what difference he would have made.

  • @alexcooper849
    @alexcooper849 2 года назад +14

    "Sorry I stopped at however"
    Gotta love how Deborah finished of touker you can visibly see his ego shatter 😂

  • @davidevans3175
    @davidevans3175 3 года назад +102

    They should have said to Touka, "a lot of people stand here and ask for money with little sales and a lot of hope. We're here with a half-million pounds of proof which you call luck. If we're that lucky, you should make us an irresistible offer immediately before the other Dragons start talking."

    • @Frosty-Lemon
      @Frosty-Lemon 3 года назад

      @dragons deñ 0.0

    • @AlexanderJordan-sv7nm
      @AlexanderJordan-sv7nm 3 года назад +25

      If you could come up with that on the spot then I applaud your wit and articulation

    • @annelyceyawingu6678
      @annelyceyawingu6678 3 года назад +2

      Can we be business partners please?😄

    • @jamesanthony4946
      @jamesanthony4946 3 года назад +1

      Touka's response, "Luck tends to run out..."

    • @MonkeyBizness420
      @MonkeyBizness420 3 года назад +1

      You can make 1,000,000.00 but if profits are less than 2% then are you really winning

  • @JCRoberts97
    @JCRoberts97 3 года назад +86

    Tourker is too greedy and always fails when he wants near half of the business

    • @Henry-cf4oo
      @Henry-cf4oo 3 года назад +10

      He doesn't get out of bed for 2% 🤣🤣🤣

    • @halfvolley11
      @halfvolley11 3 года назад +2

      its a risky business, not worth investing with ow equity

  • @kylenetherwood8734
    @kylenetherwood8734 2 года назад +14

    Crazy that Deborah got a better deal than she asked for. Can't think of another time that that has happened.

  • @nershano
    @nershano 3 года назад +82

    Alter is done, no longer stocked on ASOS and no social/website updates in 4 years.
    Touker was right.

    • @dcwatashi
      @dcwatashi 3 года назад +15

      Yes I was wondering about that. Because these shows happened quite some time ago

    • @freezasama5802
      @freezasama5802 3 года назад +25

      Well Touker also stated that Uber would use bikes instead of taxis and Voila now we have Uber eats

    • @Ccccc-mi3tr
      @Ccccc-mi3tr 3 года назад +45

      Alter seems to have closed but their other brand hope and ivy are on ASOS, they got into Zalando and are in loads of other retailers their social is also active with 93k followers

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 3 года назад +2

      But they´ve got into Harry Ramsden's!

    • @retrovideos1445
      @retrovideos1445 3 года назад +6

      Used to work for the company that’s your only customer - that’s always a bit fishy

  • @CatopiaCatSanctuary
    @CatopiaCatSanctuary 3 года назад +23

    Tukor was DEFINITELY up to something!🧐

  • @FK-mx8hy
    @FK-mx8hy 3 года назад +23

    When touka cringed at “net-a-porter” 😂 the shaaaaade

  • @PetersonZF
    @PetersonZF 3 года назад +20

    I'm glad they went with Deborah and Peter. I'd never want to do a deal with Touker, especially after he insulted my business as a bargaining tactic. If I were an entrepreneur, I think I'd happily work with almost any other Dragon.

  • @chairslots3792
    @chairslots3792 3 года назад +30

    Every single time I watch Dragons’ Den I wonder how Touker has managed to get where he is.

    • @michaelsmith953
      @michaelsmith953 3 года назад +27

      when you have lots of money/success sometimes you forget how much of your own success was luck and not skill. the best business people and multimillionaires got there from luck, sure they worked hard but 50x as many people also worked just as hard but werent as lucky

    • @maverickstclare3756
      @maverickstclare3756 2 года назад +12

      @@michaelsmith953 That phenomena even has a name: survivorship bias

    • @the_endling
      @the_endling 2 года назад +6

      Sweatshops

    • @jeffstrand601
      @jeffstrand601 6 месяцев назад

      He hasn’t, his success is vastly overstated

  • @thewalkyries7538
    @thewalkyries7538 2 года назад +4

    Nick: you come out of the lift too fast, and for that reason, I'm out

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 3 года назад +94

    "there's no brand or retailer focusing on affordable and fashionable workwear"
    Yes because every business wants their products to be unfashionable

    • @remchaill9898
      @remchaill9898 3 года назад +28

      Brands focusing on workwear have a strong tendency to be stylistically overly conservative and, well, boring. Fashion-forward brands don't want to be seen focusing on workwear, as its seen as a mundane sector. Fashion-forward workwear is actually a very under-serviced niche. Probably why Hope & Ivy has been hugely successful.

    • @ajjo6987
      @ajjo6987 3 года назад +10

      That’s not true . There are plenty of jobs were you don’t need to look like steward and it is really difficult to buy some good looking clothes without spending hundreds 🤷‍♀️I wasn’t even able to find nice looking white blouse it would look good on me without paying 60£ up which I think it is ridiculous

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. 3 года назад +3

      My point is that opinion should not be presented as a statement. It's extremely misleading.

    • @Rocketman10057
      @Rocketman10057 3 года назад +3

      @@TomNook. in your opinion

    • @another_day4783
      @another_day4783 2 года назад +1

      @@ajjo6987 menswaer is even worse its literally just shirts and trousers

  • @xcalliexbabex
    @xcalliexbabex 3 года назад +23

    This brand is doing so well! I see them everywhere I bet Touka is kicking himself!!

  • @MADMAX7330
    @MADMAX7330 3 года назад +32

    Sneaky lil Touker.. Bad mouths them all the while, just so he can gouge them and shamelessly ask for nearly half the business 🙄

  • @joegemreyes7640
    @joegemreyes7640 3 года назад +19

    Touka has a fashion brand and he knows a competition when he sees one

    • @Henry-cf4oo
      @Henry-cf4oo 3 года назад +3

      Agreed, he knew what he was doing.

  • @DeepakOjha
    @DeepakOjha 3 года назад +26

    Sarah is so graceful. God damnit, so much to learn from these people!

  • @johnmc3862
    @johnmc3862 3 года назад +8

    Outrageous of Touker to say it was luck.

    • @MonkeyBizness420
      @MonkeyBizness420 3 года назад

      What he meant was "a lot of knee pads were used"

  • @coachonyoutube99
    @coachonyoutube99 3 года назад +17

    Just love Deborah M, she is the Dragon

  • @moogleking
    @moogleking 3 года назад +13

    Touka was scheming for his high equity all along lol

  • @chriswilson5199
    @chriswilson5199 3 года назад +20

    Touker should of kept his mouth shut after giving it loads. Making an offer like that. It's embarrassing.

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 3 года назад

      Your reputation as a world class entrepreneur precedes you, never heard of you, you must be as publicity shy as you are wealthy...

  • @CKD3332
    @CKD3332 3 года назад +8

    I would only go to the Dragon for Deborah and Peter, they are clearly the best. Touka slags them off cause he was jealous of their success and then makes a ridiculous offer.

    • @twosilk
      @twosilk 3 года назад +2

      Jealous of their success?? Don't be silly

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 года назад +1

      @@twosilk Intimidated by their potential success.

  • @brettsinclair6802
    @brettsinclair6802 3 года назад +9

    Peter saw right through tuka’s tactic

  • @foreignwarren7361
    @foreignwarren7361 3 года назад +11

    Nick's wife won't want him working with models...smart man.

    • @NancyBoi1984
      @NancyBoi1984 3 года назад +2

      Is he that smart ? Hes clearly married a very insecure woman

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 3 года назад +1

      WHAT?. A rather immature and unnecessary intervention.

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 года назад

      @Stabswache Serious?

  • @Dieterbe
    @Dieterbe 3 года назад +8

    These girls need to work on their poker faces. The way they lit up each time they got an offer LOL 😂

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, but that was the best way to let Touker Suleyman know that he had competition. Not that that had much effect!

  • @moohHa22
    @moohHa22 3 года назад +32

    Omg did you see the look on their model’s faces when Sarah and Deborah were looking at the clothes? 😂😂 smile girlies, you’re on camera!

    • @joannegutteridge3843
      @joannegutteridge3843 3 года назад +7

      I saw that as well. they looked unimpressed and snobbish. 😒😁

    • @DemocracyManifest
      @DemocracyManifest 2 года назад +5

      They're models, they aren't known for having any personality or endearing character.

    • @jay-dubb.dubb.68
      @jay-dubb.dubb.68 2 года назад

      They are just the "Warm Bodies" used to display the garments!

  • @skeemostrife
    @skeemostrife 2 года назад +10

    Touca definitely insulted his way out of a deal. If I was in there shoes, after his scathing assessment of their success...I wouldnt have wanted him to invest, and certainly not for 40%

  • @masterblast4069
    @masterblast4069 3 года назад +21

    7:59 play 0.5x speed.
    Like being at the pub with Touker.

  • @ShyaninkitchenASMR
    @ShyaninkitchenASMR 3 года назад +26

    half a million, most of it came from 1 client. It is pure luck.
    If you are in trading, you will agreed with Touker.

    • @okanakdogan4203
      @okanakdogan4203 3 года назад +13

      it's more probably a friendly relationship with an ex-colleague who was the buyer at Asos at the time

    • @gokuafrica
      @gokuafrica 3 года назад

      Traders are the worst vermin. They have got no accountability. Even an average person who buys basic index funds outperforms 99% of traders. Point being, investing and building a company is very different from trading and superior as well. There's a concept of early adopters in the startup market. These are the first entities that risk doing business with a young company. The company ofcourse gives them VIP treatment for being early. What you call lack of diversification, I call a leverage. That company is a big conglomerate and the fact that they are doing business with this small and young company gives more credibility to these guys. Touka was just haggling here but traders won't understand that. They would rather invest in 40 companies that they know nothing about than one company that they understand because diversification and risk management 😂. Don't compare venture capital and investing to trading. Count how many billionaires have gotten there by trading and how many have gotten there by creating a product and you'll see what I'm talking about. You guys bring nothing to the table.

  • @theactualcanadian8300
    @theactualcanadian8300 3 года назад +32

    Nick Jenkins- I can’t offer you much help because it’s not my sector, so I’m out
    *dramatic music sting*
    Narrator- A FATAL BLOW TO THE ENTREPRENEURS

    • @freezasama5802
      @freezasama5802 3 года назад +4

      For a dragon that has nothing to do with the market the entrepreneurs are seeking it's a very fatal blow

    • @intrepidtomato
      @intrepidtomato Год назад

      yeah so dramatic. It is a very good and honest strategy to say you are not interested in a business even though it is promising because it is not in your line, loved that

  • @miraclemiler71
    @miraclemiler71 3 года назад +8

    The last model to walk in and do a twirl is stunning.

  • @StandardGoose
    @StandardGoose 3 года назад +3

    I'm fascinated to know what kind of work someone would do wearing the outfit that third model was wearing for it to be considered "work wear".

    • @leannedee6382
      @leannedee6382 2 года назад +1

      Madam at a brothel?

    • @jay-dubb.dubb.68
      @jay-dubb.dubb.68 2 года назад

      Lady of the evening walking the street on N. Main at 1am

  • @elliottgreco6474
    @elliottgreco6474 Год назад +1

    12:52 quite rare for Peter to get shocked by Touker like that

  • @zombie5017
    @zombie5017 3 года назад +4

    im surprised they were able to negotiate the dragons down 2% each, others have failed to do so.

  • @Sozzled-Hag
    @Sozzled-Hag 3 года назад +93

    For a fashion company, accepting an offer from Debra is ridiculous. Look at the tat she is wearing

    • @andrewgurney6019
      @andrewgurney6019 3 года назад +4

      Owch

    • @thecasualobserver6598
      @thecasualobserver6598 3 года назад +16

      MEEEOWWWW...🐈

    • @drvs2262
      @drvs2262 3 года назад +3

      Now, now. Put your claws away

    • @AJ-bv7gr
      @AJ-bv7gr 3 года назад +2

      yeah, they should go with Peter & Sarah.

    • @JazzyMarineVet
      @JazzyMarineVet 3 года назад +19

      Her bank account and contacts supersede the importance of what she's wearing

  • @dakotaretherford4384
    @dakotaretherford4384 10 месяцев назад +2

    My first thought when I heard her was Ulta is already a name

  • @user-ve5qn7zr4p
    @user-ve5qn7zr4p 3 года назад +5

    The way touker looks around as if he clever and outsmarted everyone

  • @olaoluwaadeyemo6939
    @olaoluwaadeyemo6939 3 года назад +9

    Touker: 78k is not enough...
    Yet he offers the same amount for about times 3 the equity.
    ...... Peter Jones is still my favorite. ❤️

  • @cdan3135
    @cdan3135 Год назад +2

    Touker was just extremely jealous of their success and wanted to act like he was the daddy and rip them off but fairnplay to Peter for stepping in 👏

  • @Bleach420
    @Bleach420 3 года назад +7

    Good day fellow DD addicts!

  • @AlwaysBolttheBird
    @AlwaysBolttheBird 3 года назад +7

    Peter and Deborah deals are always the best

  • @Marian_Rusnak
    @Marian_Rusnak 3 года назад +9

    thank you, Touker, for your honest words. such words are not always appreciated, sadly

  • @WinstonBuford
    @WinstonBuford 3 года назад +9

    peter didnt even get up to look

    • @originalunoriginal4055
      @originalunoriginal4055 3 года назад +3

      Wasn't expecting him to try on the outfits, were you?

    • @Henry-cf4oo
      @Henry-cf4oo 3 года назад

      @@originalunoriginal4055 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @cuttlefisch
    @cuttlefisch 3 года назад +5

    Hope it continues to work out for them.

  • @calibcrockett
    @calibcrockett 2 года назад +11

    I think their quick success at Asos or however you spell it is a big red flag 🚩. One of them said she worked at the company for 3 years and now she runs her own company and their only purchaser happens to be the company she worked for. I feel she has a relationship with the buyer at Asos and is the reason they've been able to sell an unknown brand in such high quantity so quickly, the real work would be selling to other companies that she doesn't know anyone at. Just very sketchy imo and surprised none of the dragons brought it up.

    • @alecjuho289
      @alecjuho289 2 года назад +2

      they're actually selling at Zalando and several other retailers atm

    • @TheodoreBrosevelt
      @TheodoreBrosevelt Год назад +2

      That's called having connections

    • @graceycatlady
      @graceycatlady 6 месяцев назад +1

      This is funny. If you have connections, nothing wrong to use it to help your business. Retail industry is a very competitive business, brand awareness and product visibility are the key to generating more sales. If you know an avenue on how to improve those 2, wouldn’t you take it?

  • @JimmyTRUELOVE
    @JimmyTRUELOVE 3 года назад +5

    that girl with dark hair - the model, is so fit.

    • @bash547
      @bash547 3 года назад +1

      Jenny’s not in this episode

    • @pauljulian2963
      @pauljulian2963 3 года назад

      Jenny is the most beautiful. The way she says she's out. pure sexiness.

  • @Josh_TO
    @Josh_TO 2 года назад +1

    Tukar went overboard with the lowballing. Glad they called his bluff.

  • @nicholassimon1419
    @nicholassimon1419 2 года назад +2

    I can’t even express how annoyed I am that Peter didn’t make some kind of “This isn’t the first time women have been disappointed by Nick finishing too quickly” joke.

  • @Nick-gk6hj
    @Nick-gk6hj 2 месяца назад

    Props to the camera man who obviously understood the assignment

  • @YouthPotential
    @YouthPotential 3 года назад +3

    Really pleased for these two

  • @Windows-kz4ke
    @Windows-kz4ke 9 месяцев назад

    “Two brand, two websites. You’re in for a disaster.”
    *HE SAID IT. HE SAID THE LINE*

  • @theovolz3073
    @theovolz3073 3 года назад +2

    Wow, this must be the least click-baity title I’ve seen for a Dragon’s Den episode.

  • @susanwaugh3885
    @susanwaugh3885 3 года назад +5

    Deborah admits she doesn’t have the expertise in clothing retail yet they go for her and Peter instead of Touker! This show gets on my nerves at times. It’s all about Peter and Deborah or if not touker if everyone else goes out. Why do they always keep choosing Deborah when other dragons are sometimes a better fit for the entrepreneurs businesses. The show might as well just have those two on, and get rid of the rest. It’s so annoying

    • @alfydarkdeadly
      @alfydarkdeadly 3 года назад +8

      I honestly think that ppl don’t have faith in touker.
      Deborah and Peter really sound like they know that they are talking and come
      Across as they can get things done.
      With touka I don’t think he makes the candidates feel that. Oddly enough he’s the richest dragon. But I think pll think he doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    • @jimmytyan9791
      @jimmytyan9791 3 года назад +1

      @@alfydarkdeadly touker? Richest dragon? 🤣 pretty sure thats Peter Jones

  • @tooshlong
    @tooshlong 2 года назад +2

    Toukers facial expression at 14:11 (the very long blink is a big tell) tells you that he was gutted at his offer being overlooked. He played that badly.

  • @tomsmith7429
    @tomsmith7429 9 месяцев назад +1

    Touka looked at the models and said: ''You have spread yourself very wide''

  • @arpitanand5150
    @arpitanand5150 3 года назад +2

    Touker sitting was thinking I will slightly play willl give hard time and then pretend to rescue. then ask any amount. sprry bro wont work

  • @readmycomment3157
    @readmycomment3157 2 года назад +1

    Touker was patronising and rude, no wonder they didnt go for him, Peter was far smarter here, supportive, complementary, impressive track record.

  • @nabhanh7334
    @nabhanh7334 3 года назад +4

    Touker's shot at 10:50 is meme worthy

    • @claire6568
      @claire6568 8 месяцев назад

      He literally looks like this emoji 😏

  • @RhyfelwrMorgannwg
    @RhyfelwrMorgannwg 3 года назад +4

    Touker is greedy but his words were wise. Last nights new episode, he offers £50k for 90%... so he’s basically giving himself £45k, but to be fair just like this he could do a lot for them with a big share. It just invites other dragons to come and undercut him if they like the business

  • @ProfessorOfLogic81
    @ProfessorOfLogic81 3 месяца назад

    Peter knew exactly what Touker was doing. Speaking down about their business, making it sound like a fluke not worth anything, then he tries to act like he will save them. So dishonest.

  • @x_dolly666_x
    @x_dolly666_x 3 года назад +10

    3:53 those cuff links

  • @ashleyj0
    @ashleyj0 3 года назад +1

    For a minute i was like Ulta?! That's a cheapy fashion store in the us

  • @timtam6442
    @timtam6442 3 года назад +46

    Touker talking them down so he can low-ball them. Got what he deserved

    • @Patricia_Angeles
      @Patricia_Angeles 3 года назад +2

      Peter & Debs got what they deserved - 20% in a failing company

  • @blacksunshine7485
    @blacksunshine7485 3 года назад +4

    The catwalk music was scary

  • @trcflaviu
    @trcflaviu 3 года назад +7

    It looks like Peter and Debra's partnership hoover most of the businesses

  • @henryfullman9171
    @henryfullman9171 3 года назад +10

    All I can say is bloody well done girls !

  • @commanderkeen3787
    @commanderkeen3787 3 года назад +38

    *LUNCH TIME. WOOO WOOO*

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 3 года назад +1

      I had just started eating lunch when I noticed this was uploaded. What luck.

  • @Imageoneonone
    @Imageoneonone 2 года назад

    Confidence of new entrepreneur can't be influenced by just reminding them about market situations

  • @louvienne531
    @louvienne531 2 года назад +2

    Can I just say I love the red shoes she had on 💖

  • @thedappercook
    @thedappercook 3 года назад +1

    Love these older episodes

  • @RTG1031
    @RTG1031 Год назад +1

    Touker tried to use Peter’s tactic and it failed

  • @foxhound931
    @foxhound931 9 месяцев назад

    Enterpreneurs : We are pitching for our textile industry
    Touker: Am gonna take this whole startup down

  • @kevindunlap5525
    @kevindunlap5525 Год назад

    Thank you SONY for NOT posting the original air dates.

  • @risiateb
    @risiateb 3 года назад +1

    They said work wear. What was the 3rd model wearing?

  • @nkrav7160
    @nkrav7160 Год назад +3

    Touker tried to get Peter with his own tactic. Wrong move sir. 😂

  • @andylane7142
    @andylane7142 3 года назад +1

    Looks like Jenny has mastered the art of the out by not even turning up.

  • @taherajenz
    @taherajenz 3 года назад +2

    Touka: you girls are stretching yourself very wide 😛😛😛😛

  • @annettesjoy
    @annettesjoy 2 года назад

    Now I know I am different than most of the people on this thred 😁 but...
    When I was a teenager, I loved Shaun Cassidy and Rex Smith. Now I am in my 50's and I think Touker is fantastic!! I would of negotiated with him. He has so many good qualities without any arrogance. His wife is one lucky lady.

  • @knightride9635
    @knightride9635 3 года назад +22

    Touker is right to say that 2 companies at the same time is not a good idea.

  • @rhamlyn100
    @rhamlyn100 3 года назад +1

    Touka's little gambit backfired.

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 года назад

      15:13 "Touker, I knew you were up to something."
      - Peter Jones