Well, RUclips's screw up is your benefit. This is the current Patreon and YT Members most recent Sub Brief video. This was not suppose go public until 2025... but YT released it today. Much to my dismay... and it's kind of funny to me. So, enjoy the video. This is what Patreon's get twice a month, plus Q&A, audio briefs and lots of photos. So, if you like this, check out Patreon.com/subbrief Thanks.
Heya, I heard Ukraine claimed it sunk a Russian sub docked at Sevastopol around the time this was uploaded! Obviously there's misinformation on both sides but boy the cost Russia has paid in men, money & materiel is ludicrous. I have a feeling Russia will be looking to become real friendly with China moving forwards.
@@Will-Xaru >"I heard Ukraine claimed it sunk a Russian sub docked at Sevastopol" I wouldn't be surprised, though I wasn't aware of any significant Russian Black Sea fleet vessels still in Sevastopol that hadn't been moved to Novorossiysk. The Ukrainians (ok the Brits) have kicked the Russians' butt out on the Black Sea, From Sevastopol all the way to Novorossiysk (a threat realized which, in significant ways, precipitated this war in the first place) but the Black Sea fleet (with the sun and the resorts and beaches ) has, since the Czar times, been considered a cushy assignment for well-connected nepo babies. Russia's Northern Fleet is different. >"the cost Russia has paid in men, money & materiel is ludicrous" I agree. I mean, we must take into account that Ukraine is nearly double the size of Vietnam (and 3.8 times the size of North Vietnam), and started the war with 800 own tanks in active service and been delivered 789 more since. A similar picture exists with IFW's, SAMs, etc. I.e. Ukraine was/is perhaps an order of magnitude stronger an adversary compared to Vietnam, and it's by NO means a small feat to be fighting them. On top of that, per Statista, the Russians seem to maintain the civilian victim rate roughly 1/10th that of the US in Iraq and Israel in Gaza. That'll slow you down majorly, outright ruling out many tactics (no agent orange to defoliate or shock & awe etc) and yes increase own casualties majorly. That by NO means whitewashes the war but it does I think provide some context to the rate of "progress".
@@Will-Xaru Sub was in for repairs after a previous attack and was due to launch out in a few weeks. looks like it is going back in for major repairs again.
Thank You for this lecture! I always have a wonderful time learning from you. All my co workers are about to hear about the Yassen Class all over again
Fun fact - Gidropribor (GEE-droh-pree-BORE) literally means "Hydrodevice" in Russian. It is one of the oldest developers of weapons for the Russian navy (goes back to 1914).
The Type 54 and 71 torpedoes are not used by the Yasen and Borei classes. They instead use the heavily modernized UGST and increasingly the new Futlyar deep-water homing torpedo.
Ok. So genuine question. If the Yasen is classified as a SSGN due to it's 32 VLS, wouldn't that technically mean the Virginia Block V could be classified as a SSGN?
It might have to do with intended mission, not necessarily capability. The VA is an attack boat first with missile capability second if I'm not mistaken.
As you say in your pinned comment, youtube's screw up is our gain! Click on all your stuff as soon as I see it upload, so neat to see what my broke ass is missing a year ahead of time. Thanks for all the great and informative content! No such thing as someone without any sort of bias, but I appreciate how you do your best to just provide facts and be respectful of all the folks sailing these vessels
no, it's a multi-role sub, to replace/augment Oskar SSGNs, mostly to strike surface & land targets, besides sinking enemy SSNs that may get in its way. KIlo SSKs & Akula SSNs r being used as SSBN's escorts.
We should always keep in mind that advanced technology is a tool, not a guarantee. In war, mistakes WILL happen, no matter how good your technology is or how well you’re trained. Technology and skill may lessen the impact of a mistake, but if the mistake is big enough, you may very well be defeated by much inferior technology and skill. We should always see an opponent as an equal, otherwise we’d make the same mistake that has been done countless times in history.
Thanks a lot for this update, would it be possible to add couple of things from your opinion/public OSINT data to make this even more interesting like: 1) how many estimated units/reloads they have for their torpedo tubes, decoys etc. 2) based on the cost of the ship/submarine how much capability/endurance/value it provides to understand which country gets the best return for their investments on naval vessels? Thanks again!
When the Russians sent one of these to Cuba recently, I asked my brother (a current sonar tech on Virginia class boats) how much sleep people in the Navy were losing about the Russians sending a corvette and 1 sub to Cuba and he said to me, "Trust me. If a Yasen goes anywhere, many people in the Navy aren't sleeping very much." What I wondered about was when they left Cuba, there were a bunch of pictures of the sub and it was missing a ton of the anechoic tiles on the top of the hull and around the sail. How normal is that?
A friend of mine said anechoic tiles fall off from time to time, one or two tiles are fine, that is why they regularly maintain and repair the submarine
@kev1n1686 I'll be honest. I was going to ask my brother about that, butI was a bit worried that it might tread into classification territory, or maybe just too close to it for his comfort.
So a question to OP Sub Brief. With non-hull penetrating sensors. How does data from sensors get inside the hull? WiFi? There has to be a data and power cable penetration comnnecting sensor and traverse/elevation mechanism to onboard power.
Data and power cable would penetrate, I imagine the outboard side would just be on a breakaway connector. Would make the system easier to replace if damaged, and prevent a leak.
6:50 the next one is going to the northern fleet, if they name a submarine after a city, itll usually correspond where that submarine will be deployed, for example Kazan is in european russia so it went to the northern fleet, vladivostok is in asia so its going to the pacific fleet
Yes! But the concept and technology has been applied to other subs, like the Seawolf and Virginia classes. Even the old Typhoon-class had ducted propellors, which is like a pump-jet propulsor.
Love the channel has taught me a lot. The top speed of 28 knots is the submerged silent speed. The top speed is 35 knots. It also will carry Kalibr-M with 4500km range and the Onyx-M with 800km range. It would seem unwise to evaluate Russian struggles against NATO in the Back Sea when the Houthis have rendered the US Navy inconsequential in the Red Sea even damaging an Aircraft Carrier.
Agreed. Not only that, the naval aspect of the war in Ukraine is strategically irrelevant, only good for PR moral purposes. That Ukraine/NATO side celebrates so much the Moskva sinking is quite telling about the land side of the war.
Firstly, thanks for making this and all your other videos. This is a great channel and I hope you continue for the foreseeable future. But just a small nitpick -seriously, I really do hate to be that guy. The name *Severodvinsk* isn’t pronounced anything like in this video. Rather than “Sed-Ver-Nensk,” the sub and the town it’s named for sound like “Sever - Odd - Vinsk” Anyway, great work and am looking forward to your next installment.
If the lowest estimate of 8600km for the RSM-56 Bulava is any guide, then the Borei would be able to nuke any target in the USA without even leaving the White Sea or Kola. The Yasen would only need to set up a picket to screen the Borei subs sitting safe and sound in home waters. Therefore the old war plans that tracked Soviet subs off the US coast or under the ice are probably obsolete, because they most probably do not need to get that close to the US coast now (flight time to target would be the only advantage of trying to get closer).
Collectively, Belgorod and Yasen represent a 21'st Century 'Bismark' threat to US and UK. In conflict, those two classes are Tier 1 priority to hunt down and sink.
@@mirandela777 those "2.4 million" are on day 881 of their "3 day invasion" of Ukraine. They're losing the Black Sea campaign against a nation that doesn't even have a navy. At this rate they'd never even reach Poland...
The elephant in the room and nobody talks about, lol... RF is now the ONLY country in the world fielding hypersonic cruise missiles in all platforms, decades ahead of the US ( as confessed by NATO generals). This sub, armed with Zircon, can ruin a carrier battle-group alone, if manage to get at 200-300km from the target - that let just some 20-30 sec reaction time at best, for the crew of the targeted ship. And you won't turn a carrier in just a few seconds...
The Indian brahmos missle is based on this. Joint project with Russia giving them tech. Named after to city's. Don't know the Indian one but starts with brah and russian mos=Moscow
Was it even possible to really state a "x km effective range" for a sonar system as sound travels in a odd path in water? It's is totally possible for a 200db sub stay undetected by a ultra-advanced sonar because it avoided the detectable sound path
In the mid-to late '80s we spent a pretty fair amount of time watching Soviet Navy assets and evaluating their operations. One of the key takeaways was that they didn't get anywhere near enough at-sea time to get truly proficient at the operation of their boats. In that period, their boats got good (Thanks Walker), but their crews squandered the windfall.
I'd don't think max speed is relevant against modern torpedoes anymore. Assuming monsters like F-21 or spearfish make 50-80 kts, typical 35kt LA would be hard pressed to "run" and even hyperloud Alfas, now decomissioned would have problem. Just like on land, they are going to combination of shoot first and jamming / decoys and possibly hard kill.
It's about relative closure rate. The torpedo can only close on you as fast as it's speed minus your speed away from it. If you're at any kind of range when it is fired, the faster you are means the longer it will take the torpedo to reach you. The longer it takes to reach you, the higher the chance it runs out of fuel before it reaches you.
'Combat Approved' is a Program made by the Russian Ministry of Defence run TV-Channel Zvezda. I don't know if it was ever shown on RT (even though it would surprise me), but RT is still RT.
The focus isnt on speed to outrun weapons anymore... now most submarines try to be as silent as possible to not have a weapon fired at you from the start...
A very full info about what's going on! I do have a q. and wonder if you got any knowhowe about MS Estonias sinking? There are a 20 to 40 m long opening at the stern of the ship, any idea? Watch Fokus Estonia on YT.
@@carlousmagus5387 Yeah, the Russian/Soviet navy has never, ever been a well trained and led force. Good equipment manned by barely trained and barely educated 'sailors.' They can't even hold their own now, against a certain Country that can't be mentioned that doesn't even have a navy. The U.S. should train to fight a nine foot tall monster, but the reality is the Russian navy isn't very well trained, or funded.
1853 was the last time the russian navy won a battle. Russia has better luck on land (not by much) than at sea. So the fears of a mighty russian navy has no one losing sleep over it.
Perhaps the Navy wouldn't trust and enlisted man with a manpad but I don't think we can say that for "the Americans" in general. Don't mind me, it's kind of natural for me to nitpick details 😂
SA-58 is very much a name devised by DSA for use on the FAL rifles they make and IIRC is an allusion ot the use of STG-58 by Austria as a designation for their FAL rifles, since that's part of where they got their production line tooling from. It is not a NATO designation and if it was it wouldn't be using the same designation as surface to air weapons.
There was a political goal to send this one obvisouly...sending something to make headlines but quite not ground breaking like all modern russian subs.
@@КомандаЛеви Why not? I am sure that RUssia has their hypersonic plaunch platforms dieled in to strike Newport News, Electric Boat, Austral , and Norfolk Naval base ship yards , on order. I think that US Government foolishly closed down Mare Island and Puget Sound Naval shipyards as consequence of Cold War BRAC dawdown. Leaving only East Coast for vessel building.
The YassenM is okay. I wouldn't make high predictions about it's real combat effectiveness without seeing it fight first. I hope they never need to, there isn't enough of them. Bori is alright, not enough of them though. Deltas are going to work passed their real lifetime. The Russian Navy is a hard service, very dangerous. 🇺🇸/👁️\🇷🇺
"OK" do not define the world only class of subs armed with hypersonic cruise missiles. "OK" only define someone frustration when realize US IS DECADES BEHIND.
@@BaikalTii the threat of the Soviet Union was real. The Soviets managed to take on Hitler's battle hardened war machine, they had the money and scientists to develop formidable weapons in the cold war, and their support turned the tide against the US in the Vietnam war. Russia is struggling to take on Ukraine.
@@thundercactus NATO is supplying all the hardware, Ukraine is only supplying the meat. You can expect the unconditional surrender of the Ukrainians by the first of the year. NATO is running out of meat.
@@BaikalTii you vatniks were saying that 2 years ago. We're now 2.5 years into this "3 day invasion", russia hasn't even reached the Dnipro yet, and the russian fleet has retreated from Crimea. They're even desperate enough to buy old Soviet ammo from North Korea. You guys have been saying russia is going to win "soon" for the past 2 years, and it keeps not happening. The only thing russia can be praised for is for being the single largest donor of tanks to the Ukrainian war effort lol
Russia as the world's first nuclear propulsion cruise missile Burevestnik and torpedo Poseidon, not sure which sub is carrying what as classified , Russia are extremely quiet on this.
Well.... the Burevestnik is alleged to have killed 5 scientists working on the propulsion unit in an accident at a naval testing range in 2019. And the first batch of Poseidon torpedoes was claimed to be ready in Jan 2023. Likely, the reason they're quiet on it is because it was a paper tiger project from the very beginning. Much like the T14 or Su57, meant to look a lot scarier than they actually are. For example, experts don't believe russia has the technical or financial ability to develop a nuclear powered cruise missile, especially not after invading Ukraine. And serious doubt has been cast on russia's ability to even fit a complete nuclear reactor into the Poseidon torpedo, especially with the speed they've stated. Even the "hypersonic missile" they "developed" is nothing more than a Soviet era Iskander SRBM (hypersonic by nature) adapted to be launched from an aircraft.
@@paulroberts7429 Putin isn't exactly a reliable source of information lol I'm sure they have "something" hooked up to the Belgorod. I doubt it's a nuclear reactor powered nuclear tipped torpedo capable of 54kts that could wipe out the British coast with a tsunami. Keep in mind, this is a guy who's 2.5 years into a 3 day invasion of Ukraine. And the russian military is famous for lying about their military capabilities. They have a very strong economic interest in having other nations believe they're industry leaders in technology. Their arms market used to be a significant source of income, as well as their primary method of developing new technology. If you ever wondered by russia hasn't deployed their T-14 or Su-57 to front line combat in Ukraine, this is why. They can't afford to have potential customers see combat losses.
@@thundercactus - sure, is not like SU57 scored the world record with a BVR kill in a hohol jet, some months ago... Unllike the US trumpeted F22 who only "combat" was against a chinese balloon 🤣🤣.
US Admiral stated that Yasen is on par with SSN-21 Seawolf and is between 10 - 20 years behind Virginia Block II. Well that places Yasen on par with Virginia Block I of 2003-2012 time. Thats pretty scary already. Next Battle Of Atlantic (its coming) is gonna be an undersea battle and its gonna be intense. NATO will win, but we will loose some boats and surface ships, including merchants supplying Europe, before Russian boats are on bottom. We have got to get our ASW game to AllPro level.
Western sources mostly understate the capabilities of their own equipment while the Russians grossly overstate theirs in most cases. The Ukraine war shed some hard truth on many unbelievable "badass" Russian systems. If you look at their economy and what they have to pay with the available budget I think it's a wonder that anything works at all. Another questionmark is always the quality of the crews as the fate of the Moscva tells us
both sides are preparing for next major conflict in south china sea within 10-15years. china will invade taiwan, us navy will fight in south china sea while chinese real estate firms systematically repossess usa real estate, and cancel all temu orders lol. putins successor will have signed a nato treaty by then.
@@RogerKaptunikMaybe you haven’t been keeping up with current events but ukraine is getting its ass kicked despite all the wonderful western weapons they were given.
russian submarine service was a joke even when they had money. now that all the money is going to the land war in UKR, expect their training and maintenance to suffer even further.
100% RU cannot or are struggling to build T-90 m tanks after the west cut off imports of western technology. All RU has is men for the meat grinder and a supply of artillery munitions.
Well, RUclips's screw up is your benefit. This is the current Patreon and YT Members most recent Sub Brief video. This was not suppose go public until 2025... but YT released it today. Much to my dismay... and it's kind of funny to me. So, enjoy the video. This is what Patreon's get twice a month, plus Q&A, audio briefs and lots of photos. So, if you like this, check out Patreon.com/subbrief Thanks.
Heya, I heard Ukraine claimed it sunk a Russian sub docked at Sevastopol around the time this was uploaded! Obviously there's misinformation on both sides but boy the cost Russia has paid in men, money & materiel is ludicrous. I have a feeling Russia will be looking to become real friendly with China moving forwards.
@@Will-Xaru >"I heard Ukraine claimed it sunk a Russian sub docked at Sevastopol"
I wouldn't be surprised, though I wasn't aware of any significant Russian Black Sea fleet vessels still in Sevastopol that hadn't been moved to Novorossiysk. The Ukrainians (ok the Brits) have kicked the Russians' butt out on the Black Sea, From Sevastopol all the way to Novorossiysk (a threat realized which, in significant ways, precipitated this war in the first place) but the Black Sea fleet (with the sun and the resorts and beaches ) has, since the Czar times, been considered a cushy assignment for well-connected nepo babies. Russia's Northern Fleet is different.
>"the cost Russia has paid in men, money & materiel is ludicrous"
I agree. I mean, we must take into account that Ukraine is nearly double the size of Vietnam (and 3.8 times the size of North Vietnam), and started the war with 800 own tanks in active service and been delivered 789 more since. A similar picture exists with IFW's, SAMs, etc. I.e. Ukraine was/is perhaps an order of magnitude stronger an adversary compared to Vietnam, and it's by NO means a small feat to be fighting them. On top of that, per Statista, the Russians seem to maintain the civilian victim rate roughly 1/10th that of the US in Iraq and Israel in Gaza. That'll slow you down majorly, outright ruling out many tactics (no agent orange to defoliate or shock & awe etc) and yes increase own casualties majorly. That by NO means whitewashes the war but it does I think provide some context to the rate of "progress".
@@Will-Xaru Sub was in for repairs after a previous attack and was due to launch out in a few weeks. looks like it is going back in for major repairs again.
The p800 onyx has a rang of 800km. The export version is 300km
@SubBrief Result for us RUclips subscribers then! :) In all seriousness. Keep up the good work.
Thank You for this lecture! I always have a wonderful time learning from you. All my co workers are about to hear about the Yassen Class all over again
Same! But there's no one else back here on a Saturday besides me right now.
She is a "bad-ass" boat. The humble opinion of a former acoutic operator.
No one does a more detailed breakdown of systems and capabilities than this channel! Excellent video as always!!!
Imagine being on a surface warship, running from a wake-homing 65cm torpedo for over an hour!
That would be very scary.
Time flies when you're having fun or something
@@xephael3485 Getting chased by a torpedo is not my definition of fun.
@@Stinger522 that's not what the women tell me!😜
@@xephael3485 oh man that time he almost got an aircraft carrier with one during a Cold Waters stream, torpedo couldnt catch it though
Fun fact - Gidropribor (GEE-droh-pree-BORE) literally means "Hydrodevice" in Russian. It is one of the oldest developers of weapons for the Russian navy (goes back to 1914).
The Type 54 and 71 torpedoes are not used by the Yasen and Borei classes.
They instead use the heavily modernized UGST and increasingly the new Futlyar deep-water homing torpedo.
Sure thing “user”
Thanks. Love your analysis. Been watching you since your "Cold Waters" videos. You do a great job.
21:00 min picture shows the ss-27 sizzler anti ship missile
Ok. So genuine question. If the Yasen is classified as a SSGN due to it's 32 VLS, wouldn't that technically mean the Virginia Block V could be classified as a SSGN?
It might have to do with intended mission, not necessarily capability. The VA is an attack boat first with missile capability second if I'm not mistaken.
@@_Hodgepodge To some extend yes, it's supposed to cover for the SSGN Ohios.
As you say in your pinned comment, youtube's screw up is our gain! Click on all your stuff as soon as I see it upload, so neat to see what my broke ass is missing a year ahead of time. Thanks for all the great and informative content! No such thing as someone without any sort of bias, but I appreciate how you do your best to just provide facts and be respectful of all the folks sailing these vessels
Thank you and your team for all you do.
no, it's a multi-role sub, to replace/augment Oskar SSGNs, mostly to strike surface & land targets, besides sinking enemy SSNs that may get in its way. KIlo SSKs & Akula SSNs r being used as SSBN's escorts.
We should always keep in mind that advanced technology is a tool, not a guarantee. In war, mistakes WILL happen, no matter how good your technology is or how well you’re trained. Technology and skill may lessen the impact of a mistake, but if the mistake is big enough, you may very well be defeated by much inferior technology and skill. We should always see an opponent as an equal, otherwise we’d make the same mistake that has been done countless times in history.
Thanks a lot for this update, would it be possible to add couple of things from your opinion/public OSINT data to make this even more interesting like: 1) how many estimated units/reloads they have for their torpedo tubes, decoys etc. 2) based on the cost of the ship/submarine how much capability/endurance/value it provides to understand which country gets the best return for their investments on naval vessels? Thanks again!
There’s so much information about this Russian sub makes you wonder what they know about American subs it’s quite spooky
Good Day. As always, Excellent. Very interesting and educational update.
Thank You and Best Regards.
This is an outstanding video. Thank you.
Thank you.
Very thorough brief. I enjoyed learning about the sub, ty.
just a remark - the torpedo tubes are not on the marked spot. they angle of the centerline.
Thanks for your work!
Could you do a video on periscope detection radar? I also think you misspoke about other submarines having periscope detection radar...
Briefings like this one are why I subscribe to your channel
When the Russians sent one of these to Cuba recently, I asked my brother (a current sonar tech on Virginia class boats) how much sleep people in the Navy were losing about the Russians sending a corvette and 1 sub to Cuba and he said to me, "Trust me. If a Yasen goes anywhere, many people in the Navy aren't sleeping very much."
What I wondered about was when they left Cuba, there were a bunch of pictures of the sub and it was missing a ton of the anechoic tiles on the top of the hull and around the sail. How normal is that?
A friend of mine said anechoic tiles fall off from time to time, one or two tiles are fine, that is why they regularly maintain and repair the submarine
@kev1n1686 I'll be honest. I was going to ask my brother about that, butI was a bit worried that it might tread into classification territory, or maybe just too close to it for his comfort.
all subs lose tiles, when they cruise a lot - google and you will see tons of images of US subs missing a lot of tiles after long voyages.
Funny you mentioned propaganda. I'll watch your videos ignoring yours, too! 😇😉
Thanks for the interesting video - as usual!
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So a question to OP Sub Brief. With non-hull penetrating sensors. How does data from sensors get inside the hull? WiFi? There has to be a data and power cable penetration comnnecting sensor and traverse/elevation mechanism to onboard power.
Fiber optic cables. At least on the SSN-774-class.
@@_R-R What about power.? Do not describe Virgnia class.
This could be the topic of a good video from Sub Brief!
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Data and power cable would penetrate, I imagine the outboard side would just be on a breakaway connector. Would make the system easier to replace if damaged, and prevent a leak.
The guidance is actually "glonass',the time of glasnost is over.👍
Aaron, how does Yasen-M compare to Virginia block 5?
Correction, the p800 has a range of 600 km , the export version has a range of 300 km
6:50 the next one is going to the northern fleet, if they name a submarine after a city, itll usually correspond where that submarine will be deployed, for example Kazan is in european russia so it went to the northern fleet, vladivostok is in asia so its going to the pacific fleet
Beautiful sub class! Im American so i guess terrifying! Mad respect to our Russian advisories!!
So… they built a caterpillar drive?
Yes! But the concept and technology has been applied to other subs, like the Seawolf and Virginia classes. Even the old Typhoon-class had ducted propellors, which is like a pump-jet propulsor.
Love the channel has taught me a lot.
The top speed of 28 knots is the submerged silent speed. The top speed is 35 knots. It also will carry Kalibr-M with 4500km range and the Onyx-M with 800km range.
It would seem unwise to evaluate Russian struggles against NATO in the Back Sea when the Houthis have rendered the US Navy inconsequential in the Red Sea even damaging an Aircraft Carrier.
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The houthis never damaged an aircraft carrier. Stop swallowing houthi propaganda.
Agreed. Not only that, the naval aspect of the war in Ukraine is strategically irrelevant, only good for PR moral purposes. That Ukraine/NATO side celebrates so much the Moskva sinking is quite telling about the land side of the war.
Firstly, thanks for making this and all your other videos. This is a great channel and I hope you continue for the foreseeable future.
But just a small nitpick -seriously, I really do hate to be that guy. The name *Severodvinsk* isn’t pronounced anything like in this video.
Rather than “Sed-Ver-Nensk,” the sub and the town it’s named for sound like “Sever - Odd - Vinsk”
Anyway, great work and am looking forward to your next installment.
Jive isn't very good with Russian names, bless him. You'll get used to it :)
Thanks.
Does the russian navy still use the igla on their submarines?
Wouldn't they replace it with the 9k333 verba at this point?
It might be a low priority to replace them as it would most likely be used when transiting out of a friendly and defended port.
Hi Aaron, when half your flotilla is logistic support ships, I tend to worry less. Thank you for all your reporting.👍
What you are missing is a fleet needs that many and the US doesn't have half of log ships required.
Aaron, was wondering.....is a trident submarine able to launch it's missiles while at the dock? I would imagine that it could.
If the lowest estimate of 8600km for the RSM-56 Bulava is any guide, then the Borei would be able to nuke any target in the USA without even leaving the White Sea or Kola. The Yasen would only need to set up a picket to screen the Borei subs sitting safe and sound in home waters. Therefore the old war plans that tracked Soviet subs off the US coast or under the ice are probably obsolete, because they most probably do not need to get that close to the US coast now (flight time to target would be the only advantage of trying to get closer).
I wonder what is more stealthy the Jimmy Carter or the Kazon
Collectively, Belgorod and Yasen represent a 21'st Century 'Bismark' threat to US and UK. In conflict, those two classes are Tier 1 priority to hunt down and sink.
Well luckily Europe could focus their efforts on finding submarines, seeing as russia hasn't much of a land based army left...
@@thundercactus just some 2,4 millions.... a lot less than the 68 000 UK has.... wanna cope more ? 🤣🤣🤣
@@mirandela777 those "2.4 million" are on day 881 of their "3 day invasion" of Ukraine. They're losing the Black Sea campaign against a nation that doesn't even have a navy.
At this rate they'd never even reach Poland...
@@thundercactus dude, the brainwashing is real with you.
@@thundercactusand yet they are wiping the floor with the Ukrainian and NATO armies, so...
The elephant in the room and nobody talks about, lol... RF is now the ONLY country in the world fielding hypersonic cruise missiles in all platforms, decades ahead of the US ( as confessed by NATO generals).
This sub, armed with Zircon, can ruin a carrier battle-group alone, if manage to get at 200-300km from the target - that let just some 20-30 sec reaction time at best, for the crew of the targeted ship. And you won't turn a carrier in just a few seconds...
I wonder how they address the problem of backblast and exhaust gas from MANPADS in the relatively confined space.
smoke will just blown away in seconds. just like launching a calibr
@@ezratorr4996 I’m not talking about some smoke, I’m thinking of the blast.
The p800 onyx has a rang of 800km. The export version is 300km
Flying high and slow pershaps....
Thats highway robbery, they could give the export one just a bit more range
@piotrd.4850 its high supersonic with option of sea skimming mode.
@rajaydon1893 there is a world treaty that limits them to 300km.
The Indian brahmos missle is based on this. Joint project with Russia giving them tech. Named after to city's. Don't know the Indian one but starts with brah and russian mos=Moscow
Was it even possible to really state a "x km effective range" for a sonar system as sound travels in a odd path in water?
It's is totally possible for a 200db sub stay undetected by a ultra-advanced sonar because it avoided the detectable sound path
Can you do a video on Lincoln Carrier Strike Group?
How do you know her top speed? Thought that info was classified for Western subs/ships, so I guess it's the same for the Russians.
Sweet video 👍
Starlink on subs already?
In the mid-to late '80s we spent a pretty fair amount of time watching Soviet Navy assets and evaluating their operations. One of the key takeaways was that they didn't get anywhere near enough at-sea time to get truly proficient at the operation of their boats.
In that period, their boats got good (Thanks Walker), but their crews squandered the windfall.
Economic crisis was already in full swing.
I'd don't think max speed is relevant against modern torpedoes anymore. Assuming monsters like F-21 or spearfish make 50-80 kts, typical 35kt LA would be hard pressed to "run" and even hyperloud Alfas, now decomissioned would have problem. Just like on land, they are going to combination of shoot first and jamming / decoys and possibly hard kill.
It's about relative closure rate. The torpedo can only close on you as fast as it's speed minus your speed away from it. If you're at any kind of range when it is fired, the faster you are means the longer it will take the torpedo to reach you. The longer it takes to reach you, the higher the chance it runs out of fuel before it reaches you.
Is the Russia Today channel now named combat approved?
'Combat Approved' is a Program made by the Russian Ministry of Defence run TV-Channel Zvezda.
I don't know if it was ever shown on RT (even though it would surprise me), but RT is still RT.
Two different things, RT is a News Channel, Combat Approved is a TV Show.
How can it be slower than an Oscar?
The focus isnt on speed to outrun weapons anymore...
now most submarines try to be as silent as possible to not have a weapon fired at you from the start...
Single reactor.
@@piotrd.4850 - dumb logic, the world's fastest ever sub was single reactor.
@@Watchyourselvez Likely prioritizing quieting over raw speed.
Only some Kalibr variants have a supersonic kill stage.
Type 53 torpedo needs an unmanned drone countermeasure
A very full info about what's going on!
I do have a q. and wonder if you got any knowhowe about MS Estonias sinking?
There are a 20 to 40 m long opening at the stern of the ship, any idea?
Watch Fokus Estonia on YT.
Do western navy’s deploy with man pad missiles as well for close in air defence?
I respect the equipment's capability and potential. The crew training level, not so much.
It's unwise to underestimate your opponent. The again if stop screwing with Russia, we won't have anything to worry about.
@@carlousmagus5387 Yeah, the Russian/Soviet navy has never, ever been a well trained and led force. Good equipment manned by barely trained and barely educated 'sailors.' They can't even hold their own now, against a certain Country that can't be mentioned that doesn't even have a navy. The U.S. should train to fight a nine foot tall monster, but the reality is the Russian navy isn't very well trained, or funded.
@@carlousmagus5387 Russian navy is a joke. Something about a dog piloting a space ship...
1853 was the last time the russian navy won a battle. Russia has better luck on land (not by much) than at sea. So the fears of a mighty russian navy has no one losing sleep over it.
Lmao, what a dumb comment ....would you rather have our affirmative action DEI force instead?
Perhaps the Navy wouldn't trust and enlisted man with a manpad but I don't think we can say that for "the Americans" in general.
Don't mind me, it's kind of natural for me to nitpick details 😂
17:15 They upgraded to gorilla systems, Damn it.
SA-58 = FAL
SA-24 = ManPad.
You can't make this up.
SA-58 is very much a name devised by DSA for use on the FAL rifles they make and IIRC is an allusion ot the use of STG-58 by Austria as a designation for their FAL rifles, since that's part of where they got their production line tooling from. It is not a NATO designation and if it was it wouldn't be using the same designation as surface to air weapons.
There was a political goal to send this one obvisouly...sending something to make headlines but quite not ground breaking like all modern russian subs.
How many Dark Eagle missiles will it take to level SevMarsh facility. ?
You won't do that. So don't even ask a stupid question.
@@КомандаЛеви Why not? I am sure that RUssia has their hypersonic plaunch platforms dieled in to strike Newport News, Electric Boat, Austral , and Norfolk Naval base ship yards , on order. I think that US Government foolishly closed down Mare Island and Puget Sound Naval shipyards as consequence of Cold War BRAC dawdown. Leaving only East Coast for vessel building.
Combat approved, a Russian channel, also has some good videos.
The YassenM is okay. I wouldn't make high predictions about it's real combat effectiveness without seeing it fight first. I hope they never need to, there isn't enough of them.
Bori is alright, not enough of them though. Deltas are going to work passed their real lifetime. The Russian Navy is a hard service, very dangerous.
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"OK" do not define the world only class of subs armed with hypersonic cruise missiles. "OK" only define someone frustration when realize US IS DECADES BEHIND.
no socks?
And also, Yasen means 'Ash tree'.
cheers
Hey Aaron 😊
Ukraine just sunk a Russian sub.. the Rostov-on-Don.. Will you do a detailed breakdown? Thanks.
There has been no evidence to support that claim so why would he
ukraine sunk all Russian fleet several times in their dreams lol
and they cant even built a plane , since 1990 ))))how can they sank anythinhg)
@@rajaydon1893 - the evidence is the Kiev Ghost who now is a sailor.
Russia is not the Soviet Union. it's dangerous and arrogant to evaluate Russian capabilities as if it's 1980.
That's correct, and I agree. The Soviet Union was far more capable and dangerous.
@@thundercactus it's a good thing people smarter than you are in charge at NATO
@@BaikalTii the threat of the Soviet Union was real. The Soviets managed to take on Hitler's battle hardened war machine, they had the money and scientists to develop formidable weapons in the cold war, and their support turned the tide against the US in the Vietnam war.
Russia is struggling to take on Ukraine.
@@thundercactus NATO is supplying all the hardware, Ukraine is only supplying the meat. You can expect the unconditional surrender of the Ukrainians by the first of the year. NATO is running out of meat.
@@BaikalTii you vatniks were saying that 2 years ago. We're now 2.5 years into this "3 day invasion", russia hasn't even reached the Dnipro yet, and the russian fleet has retreated from Crimea. They're even desperate enough to buy old Soviet ammo from North Korea.
You guys have been saying russia is going to win "soon" for the past 2 years, and it keeps not happening.
The only thing russia can be praised for is for being the single largest donor of tanks to the Ukrainian war effort lol
Given that these subs won't help a damn in Ukraine why ace they still building them?
There Doomed to the c floor ..hell yeah
Rostov on bottom, the new Blyatosphere ;-)
ukrainian shills live in parallel reality
Newest boat they have and still noisy enough to be tracked, without too much trouble through the "rock concert" that is the med...
Russia as the world's first nuclear propulsion cruise missile Burevestnik and torpedo Poseidon, not sure which sub is carrying what as classified , Russia are extremely quiet on this.
Well.... the Burevestnik is alleged to have killed 5 scientists working on the propulsion unit in an accident at a naval testing range in 2019. And the first batch of Poseidon torpedoes was claimed to be ready in Jan 2023.
Likely, the reason they're quiet on it is because it was a paper tiger project from the very beginning. Much like the T14 or Su57, meant to look a lot scarier than they actually are.
For example, experts don't believe russia has the technical or financial ability to develop a nuclear powered cruise missile, especially not after invading Ukraine. And serious doubt has been cast on russia's ability to even fit a complete nuclear reactor into the Poseidon torpedo, especially with the speed they've stated.
Even the "hypersonic missile" they "developed" is nothing more than a Soviet era Iskander SRBM (hypersonic by nature) adapted to be launched from an aircraft.
@@thundercactus Putin said all trials of Burevestnik successfully completed, Poseidon is active on the world's largest titanium Sub, k-329 Belgorod.
@@paulroberts7429 Putin isn't exactly a reliable source of information lol
I'm sure they have "something" hooked up to the Belgorod. I doubt it's a nuclear reactor powered nuclear tipped torpedo capable of 54kts that could wipe out the British coast with a tsunami.
Keep in mind, this is a guy who's 2.5 years into a 3 day invasion of Ukraine. And the russian military is famous for lying about their military capabilities.
They have a very strong economic interest in having other nations believe they're industry leaders in technology. Their arms market used to be a significant source of income, as well as their primary method of developing new technology. If you ever wondered by russia hasn't deployed their T-14 or Su-57 to front line combat in Ukraine, this is why. They can't afford to have potential customers see combat losses.
@@thundercactus - sure, is not like SU57 scored the world record with a BVR kill in a hohol jet, some months ago... Unllike the US trumpeted F22 who only "combat" was against a chinese balloon 🤣🤣.
@@paulroberts7429 ah yes, Putin, a famously reliable source of russian military capability 😂🤣
Not “Yasen”, but “Yasin” (“Ясень”).
US Admiral stated that Yasen is on par with SSN-21 Seawolf and is between 10 - 20 years behind Virginia Block II. Well that places Yasen on par with Virginia Block I of 2003-2012 time. Thats pretty scary already. Next Battle Of Atlantic (its coming) is gonna be an undersea battle and its gonna be intense. NATO will win, but we will loose some boats and surface ships, including merchants supplying Europe, before Russian boats are on bottom. We have got to get our ASW game to AllPro level.
Western sources mostly understate the capabilities of their own equipment while the Russians grossly overstate theirs in most cases. The Ukraine war shed some hard truth on many unbelievable "badass" Russian systems. If you look at their economy and what they have to pay with the available budget I think it's a wonder that anything works at all. Another questionmark is always the quality of the crews as the fate of the Moscva tells us
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@@goodlife6277 is this bot stuff the new "everybody I dont like/agree is Hitler"?
both sides are preparing for next major conflict in south china sea within 10-15years. china will invade taiwan, us navy will fight in south china sea while chinese real estate firms systematically repossess usa real estate, and cancel all temu orders lol. putins successor will have signed a nato treaty by then.
@@RogerKaptunikMaybe you haven’t been keeping up with current events but ukraine is getting its ass kicked despite all the wonderful western weapons they were given.
russian submarine service was a joke even when they had money. now that all the money is going to the land war in UKR, expect their training and maintenance to suffer even further.
100% RU cannot or are struggling to build T-90 m tanks after the west cut off imports of western technology. All RU has is men for the meat grinder and a supply of artillery munitions.
Now vote for Kamala and Tim so we all in the Western Alliance can keep China and Russia at check! 💙💙💙