My son this year I seen him different when getting out of school I kept asking after a couple of days he opened up and said 3 kids were messing with him I went to school and they took care of it right away talk to your children see the signs
As if bullying is something new and was'nt much much worse in the past.... But you know what it that fits the timeline? Psychotrophic med subscriptions given to childeren. Be ware.
From my own personal experience, the people who are watching will justify bullying because something must have been said or did. Or the kid must've made the bully "feel some sort of way" she how society looks to justify a bully but can't seem to wrap their mind around it when the bully is served in kind. Same way a bully never goes after someone there own size a victim of bullying can't depend on equal force....soooo. Oh I forgot we are still pretending. Back to the approved recitation.... Thoughts and prayers m
I taught my son how to stick up for himself. I heard he was being a bully when he was about 10, and he got the belt. I will not raise a thief, liar or bully. I'm sure he felt humiliated that day, just like the kid he bullied did. That's the only time lve ever had to use physical discipline on him He's my wife and my only child and we are loving parents, however l am strict because l want him to be successful. There's no way lm raising a future thug or criminal. Old fashioned discipline produced better adults than the spoiled disrespectful soft brats of today. My son thinks his granddaddy is so soft lol, l told him he was 100x more strict with his kids
Last year I did some substitute teaching at various middle schools and high schools. The students not only bully each other but they bully the teachers, there's not much that can be done once it reeaches that point, I've called the principal's office in front of the students to have them come down and they keep on even once the principal is present in the room. Very disturbing situation.
My friend is a substitute teacher too, she is middle aged lady, she is Asian / chinese, she told me some of the students keep bully her because she is chinese & has accent, can't imagine the students nowaday dare to bully teachers 🤦♀️
Parenting sucks. Parents bully their children. People are stupid. I thought 50% of people were stupid. I was wrong, the more i grow older and observe my surroundings, the larger that percentage gets.
I pulled my teens from public schools after witnessing distant learning schooling. My son had the option to do extended distant learning while his peers went back to school. I wanted to see what he was learning. I saw that he was learning next to nothing except for bad behaviors that I couldn't understand where he got it from. The change in him after starting homeschooling was massive. He became more creative and started truly being himself. I was afraid to homeschool before but realized that there was no way I could do worse than what I had witnessed.
Coming from a 35 year old male who has been online before there was censorship, PARENTS please pay attention to who your kids are in contact with on video games/discord/EVERYTHING.
This sadly will become trendy behavior because parents refuse to care about their children in this country. They always ask why these things happen when the fact is that we have a lot of horrible parents that simply do not care.
There are plenty of places in America that you can move to and the cost of living is cheap enough that one parent can stay home. I know one person who refuses to move from NYC because there are so many "resources" there. While rent there is astronomical, if she moved somewhere else she wouldn't need the resources. But she's so used to government handouts that she doesn't know how to live without them anymore. People are chasing the dollar and their life preferences over their children's needs. If people truly looked around their house at all the STUFF they work to buy when those hours of work could have been spent at home with their kids, people might get sick to their stomachs. Material wealth has become more important than family health. Kids don't need Nikes and Iphones, they need Walmart shoes, books, and a parent with undivided attention.
Her father gave her the gun. He took her target shooting for fun which isn’t bad unless your child has mental health issues. She stated in her manifesto that she manipulated her dad into letting her go shooting practice & called him stupid. She called her parents scum.
You do realize kids print guns in their bedrooms these days right? Also she broke into her dads gun-safe by watching a YT tutorial on it, and stole his gun.
@FriedrichMüller0 It was definitely about being bullied. And her homelife her parents were divorced & remarried several times and she felt they didn't love her as much as their other children. She talks about being bullied in TWO different schools leaving one to only get bullied in the other school as well. She speaks of having panic attacks when she was even younger and writhing on the floor having hallucinations and begging her mother to come into her room and she claims the mother just walked past her and tended to the other kids.
What??? She did this to kids that were way younger than her. That demon was 15 years old. She did this to a 2nd grade class. YT crime is really ok’ed in this country.
Home probably doesn't help to a degree but just knowing right from wrong helps alot. I have to believe that she knew that it wasn't the right thing to do.
A shooter will just shoot in school yard to avoid metal detectors---We need to get ride of Capitalism and become socialist democracy which is not communism like Fox News is most likely being paid off to say I'm speculating cuz it's not true there's different types of socialism socialism and communism for the government has all the power socialism democracy is a part of NATO and you can't be communist to be a part of NATO and it's basically Freedom with just community-based caring for others and their socialist programs in America but capitalism puts holes in gaps in incorruption bullying from staff to clients in low-income programs especially gaslighting doctors turn the medical field into a money market in socialism democracy the people in the businesses have all the power to change the laws and it brings crime down significantly they got rid of the death penalty in the middle of the 1800s and they put all that money into Rehabilitation programs that are amazing and crime is so low in the Netherlands for example they don't have holes and gaps in programs their mental health is really good there they treat the gays and lesbians and transgenders very well and it's the best of both worlds& another cause of crimes is sexist religions & religions that hate on LGTBL community 🏳️🌈 & deformed people cuz in the Bible where it says gays and lesbians go to hell which is not what the original Bible says it says boy lovers go to hell which is pedophiles molesters during World War II it got changed by the Germans right underneath that it says deformed people go to hell which is hate and I have an aunt that has deformed chromosome she's got down syndrome and makes her face look different than others and according to the Bible is just going to go to hell because she was born different that's ridiculous the Bible is according to statistics the leading cause of domestic violence deaths from Men towards women and children a lot of media has sexualized abuse from men towards women Grand Theft Auto video game these two boys ate and 10-years-old played it and then they went out and raped and killed a little girl on the playground when I was at the domestic violence shelter meetings a dad brought in his three daughters and he got custody after the mom's boyfriend molested all three of them and they said that 80% of the boys in their school were sexually harassing girls and they were quoting music video saying it's okay to do that you know how many women get raped in the armed forces we need to get rid of all these things and I know people are brainwashed and have your tactics put on the Stockholm syndrome to love the Bible religion so it's going to be traumatizing if it gets taken away so I would say maybe just outlaw for priest to teach sexism and hate towards the LG tbq community and deformed people
Well, with air travel, you're moving from state to state and country to country. In a vehicle that goes hundreds of mph in the earth's troposphere. So contraband is an important issue. As for court, every single person that has an appointment there is either a victim or someone who victimized another. Who are often put in the same room together. Lots of potential for violence. It's a sad and dystopian future where it seems necessary to put them in schools. Just a bunch of emotional tablet kids who know where their parents keep the gun.
the dad will be in prison soon like the Crumblys..she said she hated him and that he was a dragqueen..she said her dashe was bisexual not transd was stupid and she stole the gunr ight under his nose..
She said in the manifesto going around, she been planning to suicide and "tricked" her dad into somehow getting access to the gun. Anger against society, she decided might as well take a few other POS with her.
let’s keep it real. The motive is not the number one priority of the police, but carving out a politically correct narrative that they can sell to the public is.
You’re fairly low iq. Look into the definition of a school shooting. Majority of these “school shootings” are not even on or near campus. Majority of those “school shootings” have no victims or injuries. Obviously 1 is too many, but don’t let the media play you like a fool. If you really cared, maybe take a look at how many fentanyl deaths there have been and how little the government or people like you even care.
The shooter is dead....so this is a dead end .... however, the boy that killed his entire family in New Mexico is still alive .. I'd like to find out HIS motive.
We know in most cases when a boy does it. However, I girl is more disturbing because girls generally don’t do this kind things and it’s an extremely rare occurrence.
Until the schools do something about bullying the shootings are never going to stop and it's so sad can't get along with each other in this world and it's all the parents raised their children it's all children are being raised at home that's why they bully more parents should teach your children about respect and respecting other people and it's the parents how the actor from their children children are like sponges they pick up that information you have to show respect around other people to show your children about respect
It's so sad that teachers now have to be first responders on top of everything else they have to deal with. It's amazing there are still people who want to be teachers anymore....
The search for a motive in these cases is absurd- these people have undifferentiated resentment, and aggression. There is no reasonable motive like revenge, greed, jealously, etc. There is just a need to find relief from mental anguish- she had no relationship with the people she killed- it could have been anyone.
I don’t know if drugs we’re involved but have a feeling this female student might’ve been bullied by the student she killed and the teacher was informed by the shooter of the bullying and that’s why the shooter killed the teacher!! Just my opinion!!
@@judycoyne7818you could very well be right. Kids are cruel and there are some crappy teachers out there. When my kid was in kindergarten, he had bruises on his back and he wouldn't tell me who was hitting him. So I took out his class picture and he pointed to the kid. The biggest meanest looking kid in the picture! I called the principal the next morning and wanted a meeting with her and the kids parents. She said she wasn't going to do that and that they couldn't watch the kids every minute in the playground. Her response made me so infuriated that I went to the school and waited for that mean kid to show up and when he did his mean looking mother was holding his hand walking him into class. I confronted her and she said no, her son would never hit another kid. Then I looked at the kid with a death stare and told him to never touch my kid again and the mother started yelling at me. Then she looked at her know d and told him to apologize to my kid because she knew her kid was a bully. Her kid said "NO!". So she grabbed him by the collar and slammed him against the wall. I froze because at that moment, I knew she was an abusive mother and that was probably why her kid came to school and took it out on my kid. Needless to say, that stupid principal came and told me that she was going to have a meeting like I wanted and she said it loud enough for all the other teachers to hear to make it look like she cared and make me look like a hothead. It was many years ago but I remember it like yesterday.
I kept hearing she was 17 and then 15. So was she 15? This is terrible. You can easily make a pew pew with a 3D printer now. I was bullied severely in middle school and I was wondering yesterday if this could be the case here and with other school shootings. I had girls looking over the bathroom stall throwing things when I used the bathroom. My heart goes to all the parents and the parents of the shooter.
Social media plays a part for sure, but parents have an obligation to monitoring, rearing, & act accordingly when their children have issues, display red flags, and/or any other questionable behavior
I read this school had no metal detectors but it’s imperative for every school where children are gathered to learn needs to feel safe in their surroundings!! 😢
Even most public schools don’t have metal detectors. The only schools I’ve heard of that have metal detectors are in inner cities where gangs are rampant. It’s practically unheard of for a private school to spend the money on metal detectors.
Whats the point in metal detectors? My child's school only has one at the front door, the students all know that's the only one and that the back doors and side doors do not have them, so a shooter with that knowledge obviously isn't going to go through the front door with the detectors, so what's the point? My child's school is more concerned with making all students lock up their cell phones in "yonder pouches" then making sure students are safe, it's a complete joke. That's what we get with liberal democrat ran schools...
To all people saying parents need to step up:. Guys, the divorce rate is through the roof. You cant find spouse that will be with you for 20+years of marriage, then dont expect things to change. Work on yourself first.
I guess I'm really curious as to why they care what the motive is? We know what the motive was behind Luigi killing the CEO and they've charged him with terrorism. If her motive was that she was being bullied and she wanted to eliminate the bully, are you going to charge the bully with terrorism? Or charge the parents with giving their 15-year-old a deadly weapon?
maybe so they can target what created the motive and prevent such shootings in the future? there is the chance that bullying wasn't the motive since she was fairly new to the school
@SkeekerOfTruth79 but they don't do anything to prevent these shootings! It's a circle jerk and patting themselves on the back the first few days we will hear something about somebody being disturbed and then move on like nothing has happened. I agree if they were actually planning on doing something, it would be great to know the motive, but they don't.
As a retired educator I do agree, but during the times we’re experiencing, the parents have help; it’s called the internet. The internet has become a high tech babysitter. Parents don’t talk to their children, the internet answers all their questions and feeds their depression. 🥺
the school shooting rates have went up A LOT. people want to blame trump for shootings but, blame the parents and the bullying that goes on in schools… they don’t do anything about the bullying.
Who tf has blamed trump? Lmfao. I haven't seen that anywhere. So tired of people making non political issues into political issues. Or bringing up fake drama. Literally no one's said this. 😂 you're delusional.
@@chrissyscholl816 i’ve seen MANY people blame trump. i’m not delusional. there’s been many times i have seen people blame trump and all these other people for gun violence but it’s nobody’s fault but the parents and that child along with the schools.
Stop with the gun control bullshit. Where is school security and investigating bad parents that don't give a shit what's going on with their kids mental health. Shame on them
Shame on you! Since when do Republicans care about mental health?? They use mental health as a scapegoat to divert attention away from sensible gun laws! Republicans care neither for health nor safety! They continue to supply and enable the shooters!
@@Glacier7474 the point is being made that a room FULL of guns is harmless but a person with bad intentions is dangerous. it’s like a 2nd grade level of understanding.
The incident and lead up need 2 be thoroughly investigated. Was the killer bullied? What was her homelife and what was her psych assessment? It is important a thorough assessment is done. I am a retired therapist.
If they dont charge the father for allowing her to have access to the weapon that killed those people, they must immediately release the Crumbly parents and Coltin Gray from prison
We need laws against bullying coaches. I live in an upper scale area. Teachers and coaches are bullied by a FEW ENABLED FAMILIES. The coaches who are good and legit, they are replaced quickly by pedophiles who take advantage of the drastic need. Administration is often training to increase pay, move on, move up, so don’t take long term action.
Bullies my ass! She was a racist with racist intentions. They're not trying to release that info. Most of her actual manifesto discussed her hatred for black people
@@cdnrednek1027 pure racism...there is a complete manifesto she left behind. Do research! She was the same( I'm quite sure learned from family) human garbage, at young age , a blk girl( of course media would've said " woman" to take away any innocence) would've been labeled as being had one done committed the same heinous act. Facts!
Does this cross anyones mind to shut schools down?!?!?! It seems to dangerous to go to school , not knowing if youre going to come out the building alive
@@lindacosma2064 Is it true that the slain 15-year-old victim was female, and the slain substitute teacher was her mother? It's hard to tell when the Madison Police Department won't give the public these facts, and Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway participates in press conferences, but gets in a huff and shouts the press down when (after several days have gone by and) the press dares to ask basic questions like, "Who did the shooter (in your city) murder?"
Saying that’ good is coming out of this for the kids - Nothing Good comes from such an event - what a stupid thing to say - that attitude is why this keeps happening!
Our Blessed Mother in current apparitions in Medjugorje states we must pray for our youth. No soul goes unclaimed during these times. We are in spiritual warfare.
Look at the headline of this video. Why is there always an obsession with the motive, as if we are on the cusp of an all-revealing explanation that will provide and antidote for prevention? She was bullied at school, or at least from her perspective she was, and she had easy access to a gun. It's the same for all school shooters. Her home life was likely chaotic too.
"the victims' names have still not bern disclosed" No. The victims, whose privacy has rightfully brrn protected, have chosen not to step into the public eye. You are not entitled to information. Get a life.
Every school should have metal detectors not ONE should not have them In Richmond VA in 1979 we had in middle school and above schools All of these schools lack metal detectors and a shame This would have stopped any shooter from entering Wake up school boards.
Where the hell are the parents of these killers! It’s at home where this craziness starts! My heart breaks for all families that have been affected with this senseless behavior! God have mercy on us all! Stop, just stop! 🙏😥❤️🤬🥺
At Some point we have to start looking at the parents of these children! She fits the protocol of the usual suspect of school shooters!! Thats the hard facts unfiltered..
Never understood the obsession over the motive. It’s almost like an attempt to justify or explain it. The individual had an evil heart and access to a firearm. There is no such thing as closure in a situation like this and guessing a motive won’t bring the victims back.
This is all so terrible. None of this should be happening. Obviously, the girl had problems. Were her parents aware of her mental state? Was she bullied by someone and nothing was done about it? Was she having problems at home? Schools are going to have to have a full time law enforcement officer inside the school every day. Calling and waiting for help takes too long.
There have been bullies from the dawn of time, and there will be until the end. Social media has dimmed actual personal interaction skills. No one knows how to act around people in person anymore. It also seems many kids are beyond desensitized these days. These events have only skyrocketed over the past handful of years. Bullies have always been a thing, they just used to be dealt with differently. Society has changed drastically since social media took off.
Parents need to be aware of the effects of social media to their kids. You are allowing the world to influence your child especially during adolescence when they are very impressionable. If you can, delay giving them a phone. Also, be intentional and take notice of your child. Parenting is more challenging nowadays but take control of what you can.
If guns weren’t legal to use through the whole USA, these incidents would be less. Don’t you think? Countries have way less problems with these types of cases where you can’t keep a gun at home.
Guns are not allowed in school zones, yet we still have gun violence in schools. The problem is truly a lack of morals, lack of mental health care..... 30 years ago guns were legal in America just like today. 30 years ago we did not hear about school shootings on a regular basis like we do today. Society has changed. Society has become cold and corrupt.
Very simple salutations No gun owners in USA. This happens evry December or all the times. Her Parents must be in jail neglecting that gun. How 15 years old has a gun????????? Not fair to those families lost. Sadly
@EducationalRoots then individual families and the school should contribute or ask funding from individual or govt agency, it's One time expense, lower down other schools fees,..I am beyond angry, I don't even live there. But 85 in a year, what is that?!
Parents have to take the chance of being looked at as overbearing or controlling. Get them a phone w them knowing you'll be checking it. Put blocks on certain sites on internet. No internet access on phones. Check internet history. Keep computer in main area not their bedrooms. Some games were off limits like Grand Theft Auto. We had at least 6 neighborhood kids at our home at all times. Each of those kids graduated and all recieved scholarships. They are now a anesthesiologist, nurse supervisor, dentist & captain in navy. Lost touch w with the others but I'm sure they are all doing well.
I wonder if they are only including American school shootings in that count. There was a girl in brazil who, about the same time, did the same thing. :(
Just stop owning guns and making them so accessible in your homes. School shootings don't happen this often in Europe. Why? Because kids don't easily find a gun at home and have to deal with sadness and frustration in other ways.
Ok... with that being said, a gun is not the ONLY weapon to kill. The one girl stuffed her bf in a suitcase. Another "xaused" the bf to un a live himself. There are knives, poisonious substances, theres more ways than a gun. Its trily the upbringing of the child next is the influences in life, video gaming is bad, then the way of education in the US... confuse the hell outta these kids. So many children cant read, they have nooo self worth,they're confused CONSTANTLY. The many they put on psych meds is insane in and of itself. Its not just parents with guns.
I think the parents should go to school with the kids every day for awake....and they should use play therapy doing things that make them laugh...I'm 74 and been in healthcare since 1979..it works...still crying..love from Texas
My son this year I seen him different when getting out of school I kept asking after a couple of days he opened up and said 3 kids were messing with him I went to school and they took care of it right away talk to your children see the signs
As if bullying is something new and was'nt much much worse in the past.... But you know what it that fits the timeline? Psychotrophic med subscriptions given to childeren. Be ware.
From my own personal experience, the people who are watching will justify bullying because something must have been said or did. Or the kid must've made the bully "feel some sort of way" she how society looks to justify a bully but can't seem to wrap their mind around it when the bully is served in kind. Same way a bully never goes after someone there own size a victim of bullying can't depend on equal force....soooo.
Oh I forgot we are still pretending. Back to the approved recitation.... Thoughts and prayers m
I taught my son how to stick up for himself.
I heard he was being a bully when he was about 10, and he got the belt.
I will not raise a thief, liar or bully.
I'm sure he felt humiliated that day, just like the kid he bullied did.
That's the only time lve ever had to use physical discipline on him
He's my wife and my only child and we are loving parents, however l am strict because l want him to be successful.
There's no way lm raising a future thug or criminal.
Old fashioned discipline produced better adults than the spoiled disrespectful soft brats of today.
My son thinks his granddaddy is so soft lol, l told him he was 100x more strict with his kids
That means you have to actually be a parent!😮
Better advice: just assume your kids are being bullied - because they are. Every time. Duh.
Last year I did some substitute teaching at various middle schools and high schools. The students not only bully each other but they bully the teachers, there's not much that can be done once it reeaches that point, I've called the principal's office in front of the students to have them come down and they keep on even once the principal is present in the room. Very disturbing situation.
My friend is a substitute teacher too, she is middle aged lady, she is Asian / chinese, she told me some of the students keep bully her because she is chinese & has accent, can't imagine the students nowaday dare to bully teachers 🤦♀️
Or in other words, Liberalism doesnt work
Parenting sucks. Parents bully their children. People are stupid. I thought 50% of people were stupid. I was wrong, the more i grow older and observe my surroundings, the larger that percentage gets.
Teachers also bully the custodians its ridiculous 😢no wonder why are children act the way they do 😢
Why was my comment deleted??? You people are sick and twisted
People need to stop saying "how can it happen here" or "i never thought it could happen here" it can happen anywhere, people.
Its just the way they feel
Hmmm
Now that we will have a tremendous bully as president, I'm afraid this will become more frequent 😢
I know they do nothing to change it. It's really pathetic
It happened already once in the greater Madison area.
The parents need to be held accountable! It all starts in the home people.
Yea how'd she have access
Yes it does.
Exactly
Not always true
Yep. Her beliefs were based on how her parents talked and it's highly likely the family 🔫 was used.
I quit my job as a teacher and I also homeschool my children.... Schools are too dangerous and the system does nothing... It will get worse😢
I pulled my teens from public schools after witnessing distant learning schooling. My son had the option to do extended distant learning while his peers went back to school. I wanted to see what he was learning. I saw that he was learning next to nothing except for bad behaviors that I couldn't understand where he got it from. The change in him after starting homeschooling was massive. He became more creative and started truly being himself. I was afraid to homeschool before but realized that there was no way I could do worse than what I had witnessed.
The education system as a whole isn’t worth anything today
No excuse for shooting anyone. Lack of impulse control. Horrific act. Condolences to all the family members affected by this tragic event.
You are so right!
A fifteen-year-old with a lack of impulse control?? The devil you say !!
She was a radical feminist AND SHE WANTED TO ERADICATE ALL MEN from the earth" Her own words. She alone is responsible
Coming from a 35 year old male who has been online before there was censorship, PARENTS please pay attention to who your kids are in contact with on video games/discord/EVERYTHING.
That ain't going to see your comment and they ain't going to do nothing different but say to themselves "That's happening over there"... Until it does
@@ronnieitaquab1008 Judging by your playlists you are a grifter and apart of the problem.
FOOL. She alone is responsible. She was a radical feminist and she said she wanted to eradicate ALL MEN from the earth" Her own words
it seems like the parents were the problem
This sadly will become trendy behavior because parents refuse to care about their children in this country. They always ask why these things happen when the fact is that we have a lot of horrible parents that simply do not care.
God was taken out of school
The parents aren't home to watch them because rent is so high no one's home to raise their kids
There are plenty of places in America that you can move to and the cost of living is cheap enough that one parent can stay home. I know one person who refuses to move from NYC because there are so many "resources" there. While rent there is astronomical, if she moved somewhere else she wouldn't need the resources. But she's so used to government handouts that she doesn't know how to live without them anymore. People are chasing the dollar and their life preferences over their children's needs. If people truly looked around their house at all the STUFF they work to buy when those hours of work could have been spent at home with their kids, people might get sick to their stomachs. Material wealth has become more important than family health. Kids don't need Nikes and Iphones, they need Walmart shoes, books, and a parent with undivided attention.
Motive is irrelevant.
How did she gain access to a weapon. This wouldn't have happened without that.
Wake up.
Her father gave her the gun. He took her target shooting for fun which isn’t bad unless your child has mental health issues. She stated in her manifesto that she manipulated her dad into letting her go shooting practice & called him stupid. She called her parents scum.
Parent needs jail time.
You do realize kids print guns in their bedrooms these days right?
Also she broke into her dads gun-safe by watching a YT tutorial on it, and stole his gun.
Wow@@Abaddon231
If there is no gun they use a knife, poison, explosives, a vehicle etc.
Doesn’t the manifesto she left make it clear what her motive was?.. No mention of her racist views and hate for humans by the media.. odd.
Very odd. Seems to me like they want to sanitize the teenager's views and make this about the family issues and bullying.
Yes, she also hated MEN AND SAID SHE WANTED TO ERADICATE ALL men FROM TE EARTH"
Cause otherwise they’d get called out… they have a big hand in the racist and misandr views
we will never know what was in the manifesto as it was locked/password protected. but it was probably about bullying and nothing else
@FriedrichMüller0 It was definitely about being bullied. And her homelife her parents were divorced & remarried several times and she felt they didn't love her as much as their other children. She talks about being bullied in TWO different schools leaving one to only get bullied in the other school as well. She speaks of having panic attacks when she was even younger and writhing on the floor having hallucinations and begging her mother to come into her room and she claims the mother just walked past her and tended to the other kids.
Parents Need to sit down with there children.And Advice there children to stop Bullying other people children.🇹🇹🇹🇹
That’s what it comes down to. Parents needs to teach there kids not to bully
Parents no stop teaching by example. Parens need to be responsible before they can teach their children..imo
We have adults bullying each other. The children learn it somewhere, right?
Teachers shouldnt bully either.@@myhalfacent7408
If there's refugees from Trinidad in school it needs to be sent back where it came from
Bullying needs to be addressed very often...
What??? She did this to kids that were way younger than her. That demon was 15 years old. She did this to a 2nd grade class.
YT crime is really ok’ed in this country.
It all starts in the home. They need to hold the parents accountable.
Home probably doesn't help to a degree but just knowing right from wrong helps alot. I have to believe that she knew that it wasn't the right thing to do.
@@quintinr.6760 Reported. For misinformation and for hate speech
SHE WAS NOT BULLIED. SHE WAS A MOUTH BREATHING, KNUCKLE DRAGGING RACIST WHO IDOLIZED OTHER SCHOOL SHOOTERS!
Are we going to get metal detectors yet? Why are people who fly or enter courthouses more important than America's children and teachers?
So agree with you. Armed guards as well .
A shooter will just shoot in school yard to avoid metal detectors---We need to get ride of Capitalism and become socialist democracy which is not communism like Fox News is most likely being paid off to say I'm speculating cuz it's not true there's different types of socialism socialism and communism for the government has all the power socialism democracy is a part of NATO and you can't be communist to be a part of NATO and it's basically Freedom with just community-based caring for others and their socialist programs in America but capitalism puts holes in gaps in incorruption bullying from staff to clients in low-income programs especially gaslighting doctors turn the medical field into a money market in socialism democracy the people in the businesses have all the power to change the laws and it brings crime down significantly they got rid of the death penalty in the middle of the 1800s and they put all that money into Rehabilitation programs that are amazing and crime is so low in the Netherlands for example they don't have holes and gaps in programs their mental health is really good there they treat the gays and lesbians and transgenders very well and it's the best of both worlds& another cause of crimes is sexist religions & religions that hate on LGTBL community 🏳️🌈 & deformed people cuz in the Bible where it says gays and lesbians go to hell which is not what the original Bible says it says boy lovers go to hell which is pedophiles molesters during World War II it got changed by the Germans right underneath that it says deformed people go to hell which is hate and I have an aunt that has deformed chromosome she's got down syndrome and makes her face look different than others and according to the Bible is just going to go to hell because she was born different that's ridiculous the Bible is according to statistics the leading cause of domestic violence deaths from Men towards women and children a lot of media has sexualized abuse from men towards women Grand Theft Auto video game these two boys ate and 10-years-old played it and then they went out and raped and killed a little girl on the playground when I was at the domestic violence shelter meetings a dad brought in his three daughters and he got custody after the mom's boyfriend molested all three of them and they said that 80% of the boys in their school were sexually harassing girls and they were quoting music video saying it's okay to do that you know how many women get raped in the armed forces we need to get rid of all these things and I know people are brainwashed and have your tactics put on the Stockholm syndrome to love the Bible religion so it's going to be traumatizing if it gets taken away so I would say maybe just outlaw for priest to teach sexism and hate towards the LG tbq community and deformed people
Private school. Not publicly funded.
@Nosferata138 All the more reason! They can spend on what they want. They're not beholden to the government.
Well, with air travel, you're moving from state to state and country to country. In a vehicle that goes hundreds of mph in the earth's troposphere. So contraband is an important issue.
As for court, every single person that has an appointment there is either a victim or someone who victimized another. Who are often put in the same room together. Lots of potential for violence.
It's a sad and dystopian future where it seems necessary to put them in schools. Just a bunch of emotional tablet kids who know where their parents keep the gun.
What school did she transfer from and why?
She was bullied at previous schools I read
@@Kellywaterman22 yes
@@Kellywaterman22there is more to the story , children bully others for many reasons, not saying it’s right. Bullying is no excuse to murder
Montessori i think
Terrible Parenting, A 15 year old should have Never Been Able to get to a Gun, Charge the Parents, So Sad🙏🏻
the dad will be in prison soon like the Crumblys..she said she hated him and that he was a dragqueen..she said her dashe was bisexual not transd was stupid and she stole the gunr ight under his nose..
Why? Was she a gang member?
She said in the manifesto going around, she been planning to suicide and "tricked" her dad into somehow getting access to the gun. Anger against society, she decided might as well take a few other POS with her.
It’s America. Anyone can get a gun. It’s part of the culture. ❤
@@sharonpierce4478 yes..part of MS-13
let’s keep it real. The motive is not the number one priority of the police, but carving out a politically correct narrative that they can sell to the public is.
Bingo! Where’s Hales manifesto? Couldn’t figure out a way to twist it for the public so it hit the shredder
School shootings are a part of American culture. If they cared, they would have made changes after columbine.
360 school shootings this year alone! WTF?
Broken homes
Even in the church😞
You’re fairly low iq. Look into the definition of a school shooting. Majority of these “school shootings” are not even on or near campus. Majority of those “school shootings” have no victims or injuries. Obviously 1 is too many, but don’t let the media play you like a fool. If you really cared, maybe take a look at how many fentanyl deaths there have been and how little the government or people like you even care.
@@kathleenking47 Religion is a joke!! People need to realize that!
Welcome to Amerikkka!!
Broken homes biggest cause of mental health crisis
The shooter is dead....so this is a dead end .... however, the boy that killed his entire family in New Mexico is still alive .. I'd like to find out HIS motive.
So is the teen boy near Seattle, WA that did same thing in Oct.
Now there's another case like it in Utah-yesterday.
Makes zero sense
A 17 year old boy killed his parents and 3 younger siblings in Utah just yesterday.
We know in most cases when a boy does it. However, I girl is more disturbing because girls generally don’t do this kind things and it’s an extremely rare occurrence.
We know HER.
motive: feminist terrorist, mysandry, & anti-black racism.Also, feminists encourage girls to kill men & other boys.
Why did she just enroll in this school this semester? What's up with that? What dud she go by Samantha? Lots and lots of questions.
Devastating. Breaks my heart into a million pieces 💔 😢 My heart and prayers go out to every single one in that community including the young girl.
So sad for the family and friends of the victims.
Until the schools do something about bullying the shootings are never going to stop and it's so sad can't get along with each other in this world and it's all the parents raised their children it's all children are being raised at home that's why they bully more parents should teach your children about respect and respecting other people and it's the parents how the actor from their children children are like sponges they pick up that information you have to show respect around other people to show your children about respect
It's so sad that teachers now have to be first responders on top of everything else they have to deal with. It's amazing there are still people who want to be teachers anymore....
Many of the teachers are criminals themselves
The search for a motive in these cases is absurd- these people have undifferentiated resentment, and aggression. There is no reasonable motive like revenge, greed, jealously, etc. There is just a need to find relief from mental anguish- she had no relationship with the people she killed- it could have been anyone.
Revenge, greed, and jealousy are reasonable??! In what insane universe?? Yours??
they don’t want you to read the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki because it sets you free
I am certain thier were signs ☢️ that could have been read and this prevented. Sad and tragic 😞😞
Had someone paid attention.
When is the madness going to stop!!
🙏🏻🙏🏻😢😢🙏🏻🙏🏻
When parents get serious and stop giving children total access to everything out there via phones.
A lot of us Americans want to know what drugs was this individual own, and who was prescribing these drugs.
I don’t know if drugs we’re involved but have a feeling this female student might’ve been bullied by the student she killed and the teacher was informed by the shooter of the bullying and that’s why the shooter killed the teacher!! Just my opinion!!
@judy it's more complicated than that you'll find out.coyne7818
@@judycoyne7818you could very well be right. Kids are cruel and there are some crappy teachers out there. When my kid was in kindergarten, he had bruises on his back and he wouldn't tell me who was hitting him. So I took out his class picture and he pointed to the kid. The biggest meanest looking kid in the picture! I called the principal the next morning and wanted a meeting with her and the kids parents. She said she wasn't going to do that and that they couldn't watch the kids every minute in the playground. Her response made me so infuriated that I went to the school and waited for that mean kid to show up and when he did his mean looking mother was holding his hand walking him into class. I confronted her and she said no, her son would never hit another kid. Then I looked at the kid with a death stare and told him to never touch my kid again and the mother started yelling at me. Then she looked at her know d and told him to apologize to my kid because she knew her kid was a bully. Her kid said "NO!". So she grabbed him by the collar and slammed him against the wall. I froze because at that moment, I knew she was an abusive mother and that was probably why her kid came to school and took it out on my kid. Needless to say, that stupid principal came and told me that she was going to have a meeting like I wanted and she said it loud enough for all the other teachers to hear to make it look like she cared and make me look like a hothead. It was many years ago but I remember it like yesterday.
It was a substitute teacher so she might not have known the extent of the bullying if any.
What drugs are you on??? If that's your 1st thought!!!
this is horrific!
She could've been messing with occult?
Last time
12/14/12 Sandy Hook
12/16/24 Abundant Life
12 years apart and a week before Christmas vacation 😢
ONLY IN THE US
There are school shootings all over the world
Agreed; it’s like we are numb to it.
I kept hearing she was 17 and then 15. So was she 15? This is terrible. You can easily make a pew pew with a 3D printer now. I was bullied severely in middle school and I was wondering yesterday if this could be the case here and with other school shootings. I had girls looking over the bathroom stall throwing things when I used the bathroom. My heart goes to all the parents and the parents of the shooter.
Social media plays a part for sure, but parents have an obligation to monitoring, rearing, & act accordingly when their children have issues, display red flags, and/or any other questionable behavior
Yes, it is top priority to know if the parents were involved
I'm worried more about brainwashing than parents but obviously it's a double edged sword.
I read this school had no metal detectors but it’s imperative for every school where children are gathered to learn needs to feel safe in their surroundings!! 😢
They spent that money on DEI training and gender studies.
They said "why should they have metal detectors " that school should be a safe place. Then the Mayor insult the press
Even most public schools don’t have metal detectors. The only schools I’ve heard of that have metal detectors are in inner cities where gangs are rampant. It’s practically unheard of for a private school to spend the money on metal detectors.
I didn't know gang members go to school.@d.n.8919
Whats the point in metal detectors? My child's school only has one at the front door, the students all know that's the only one and that the back doors and side doors do not have them, so a shooter with that knowledge obviously isn't going to go through the front door with the detectors, so what's the point? My child's school is more concerned with making all students lock up their cell phones in "yonder pouches" then making sure students are safe, it's a complete joke. That's what we get with liberal democrat ran schools...
Condolences 💐 Prayers 💕✌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
To all people saying parents need to step up:.
Guys, the divorce rate is through the roof. You cant find spouse that will be with you for 20+years of marriage, then dont expect things to change. Work on yourself first.
I guess I'm really curious as to why they care what the motive is? We know what the motive was behind Luigi killing the CEO and they've charged him with terrorism. If her motive was that she was being bullied and she wanted to eliminate the bully, are you going to charge the bully with terrorism? Or charge the parents with giving their 15-year-old a deadly weapon?
maybe so they can target what created the motive and prevent such shootings in the future? there is the chance that bullying wasn't the motive since she was fairly new to the school
@@liljade53 but when they discover the motives to the shootings nothing ever changes so why would it matter now
Lugi is the opposite of a terrorist though literally the CEO causes terror and now he is not longer able to
@@auntiefan4202 so we should just throw up my hands and do nothing?
@SkeekerOfTruth79 but they don't do anything to prevent these shootings! It's a circle jerk and patting themselves on the back the first few days we will hear something about somebody being disturbed and then move on like nothing has happened. I agree if they were actually planning on doing something, it would be great to know the motive, but they don't.
thank you for being a good hearted community God bless you all .✝❤
Parents to blame
Terrible Parenting Period
As a retired educator I do agree, but during the times we’re experiencing, the parents have help; it’s called the internet. The internet has become a high tech babysitter. Parents don’t talk to their children, the internet answers all their questions and feeds their depression. 🥺
@@BridgetEdwards-os2rg So, it's completely the parents' fault! Parents have turned their duty as parents over to the internet!!
the school shooting rates have went up A LOT. people want to blame trump for shootings but, blame the parents and the bullying that goes on in schools… they don’t do anything about the bullying.
Who tf has blamed trump? Lmfao. I haven't seen that anywhere. So tired of people making non political issues into political issues. Or bringing up fake drama. Literally no one's said this. 😂 you're delusional.
Blame trump? Lmao ur so silly! We blame all republicans.
@@chrissyscholl816this is a political issue. Shut up
@@chrissyscholl816 i’ve seen MANY people blame trump. i’m not delusional. there’s been many times i have seen people blame trump and all these other people for gun violence but it’s nobody’s fault but the parents and that child along with the schools.
@@rzwl delusional? That's you.
The bus drivers ❤❤❤😢
the bus drivers r the only ones with common sense
Stop with the gun control bullshit. Where is school security and investigating bad parents that don't give a shit what's going on with their kids mental health. Shame on them
Terrible Parenting Period 🙏🏻
Guns should be banned 🚫 in the US. Then none of this will ever happen again among other things.
Exactly These simple minded fools think that gun control will work lol When its been proven countless times over that it doesnt
Shame on you! Since when do Republicans care about mental health?? They use mental health as a scapegoat to divert attention away from sensible gun laws! Republicans care neither for health nor safety! They continue to supply and enable the shooters!
Those who focus on the guns, Would you rather be locked in a room full of guns ALONE or room full of guns with a PERSON with mental health issue?
Why would such a person would be in a room of guns? Not enough gun control I guess lol
@@Glacier7474 the point is being made that a room FULL of guns is harmless but a person with bad intentions is dangerous. it’s like a 2nd grade level of understanding.
When will Bullying be Addressed in America there is where the Real problem lies .
When parents start yanking their children out of public schools. Force the situation.😮
They learn bullying from adults, the past few years journalists have bullied, tv shows have bullied, our government has bullied
The other real problem is easy gun access!
We will now have a tremendous bully as president to set an example. I'm guessing this will only get worse 😢😢
The incident and lead up need 2 be thoroughly investigated. Was the killer bullied? What was her homelife and what was her psych assessment? It is important a thorough assessment is done. I am a retired therapist.
If they dont charge the father for allowing her to have access to the weapon that killed those people, they must immediately release the Crumbly parents and Coltin Gray from prison
this is sad
Sad enough to tighten up gun laws or just to up those thoughts and prayers and blaming mental illness as a whole?
How many of these shootings at schools are other crimes that are happening on or near school grounds that didn’t have anything to do with the school??
I think its 40-50%
We need laws against bullying coaches. I live in an upper scale area. Teachers and coaches are bullied by a FEW ENABLED FAMILIES. The coaches who are good and legit, they are replaced quickly by pedophiles who take advantage of the drastic need. Administration is often training to increase pay, move on, move up, so don’t take long term action.
Who were the bullies that caused her to do this.
Bullies my ass! She was a racist with racist intentions. They're not trying to release that info. Most of her actual manifesto discussed her hatred for black people
No bullies .
As if bullying is something new... What kind of pauchotrophic meds was the child taking?
@@cdnrednek1027 pure racism...there is a complete manifesto she left behind. Do research! She was the same( I'm quite sure learned from family) human garbage, at young age , a blk girl( of course media would've said " woman" to take away any innocence) would've been labeled as being had one done committed the same heinous act. Facts!
Manifesto is out for all to read.. just another racist psychopath raised that way.
There's a memorial with no names?
Does this cross anyones mind to shut schools down?!?!?! It seems to dangerous to go to school , not knowing if youre going to come out the building alive
How old are the victims?
One was a teacher, the other dead victim was 15 years old too
@@lindacosma2064 Is it true that the slain 15-year-old victim was female, and the slain substitute teacher was her mother? It's hard to tell when the Madison Police Department won't give the public these facts, and Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway participates in press conferences, but gets in a huff and shouts the press down when (after several days have gone by and) the press dares to ask basic questions like, "Who did the shooter (in your city) murder?"
Saying that’ good is coming out of this for the kids - Nothing Good comes from such an event - what a stupid thing to say - that attitude is why this keeps happening!
I couldn't believe he said that
That part was so loony toons
My heart and condolences goes out to the victims and the shooter's family. ❤
This is America..no matter how 'exceptionally' it's portrayed...
When are we going to get sincere about prevention and start saying "it begins with social media. Let's confiscate phones"?
Our Blessed Mother in current apparitions in Medjugorje states we must pray for our youth. No soul goes unclaimed during these times. We are in spiritual warfare.
Look at the headline of this video. Why is there always an obsession with the motive, as if we are on the cusp of an all-revealing explanation that will provide and antidote for prevention? She was bullied at school, or at least from her perspective she was, and she had easy access to a gun. It's the same for all school shooters. Her home life was likely chaotic too.
"the victims' names have still not bern disclosed" No.
The victims, whose privacy has rightfully brrn protected, have chosen not to step into the public eye.
You are not entitled to information. Get a life.
So sad for school teachers
Maybe they should have had metal detectors. They did not want them in their school.
God help what is wrong with us
God doesn't care!
Every school should have metal detectors not ONE should not have them In Richmond VA in 1979 we had in middle school and above schools All of these schools lack metal detectors and a shame This would have stopped any shooter from entering Wake up school boards.
Yep. Detroit has them and surprise, surprise...no school shootings in one of America's most trigger-happy cities.
".......Wake up school boards." School boards have no authority or oversight of any Christian schools, maybe, lol?????
Wake up, gun nuts! We need sensible gun laws! They have worked in every other developed country!
GET A NEW MAYOR WITH PEOPLE SKILLS! THIS ONE NEEDS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!
Be kind. We're you ever under such pressure?
Is ppl skills telling the World things they don't need to know?
Where the hell are the parents of these killers! It’s at home where this craziness starts! My heart breaks for all families that have been affected with this senseless behavior! God have mercy on us all! Stop, just stop! 🙏😥❤️🤬🥺
360 school shootings per year?
Mothers don't have "students." They have children. What in the world..?
Lets pray for her because even though what she did was evil, she still was a child of Jesus Christ.
I don’t understand your statement. Natalie /Sam is dead .. pray for the families that lost their love ones and community.
So she shot her bully (female student) and that students mother (the teacher) too, right?
The teacher was a sub, you're an ass
yes
We fixate on finding motive but not gun control.
because gun control only affects law abiding citizens. If someone is willing to commit murder, do you think they care about gunlaws?
USA is a sick nation. Cannot be cured.
Blame those who don't want to control criminals.
Because gun control doesn't work and it wouldn't have prevented this.
Here's a fun fact about gun control, 5 democrat run cities with STRICT gun laws account for over 70% of gun related homicides in America.
Why did i see a video with the 2nd grader who called 911?
How hard is this to figure out? Brainwashed by???
At Some point we have to start looking at the parents of these children! She fits the protocol of the usual suspect of school shooters!! Thats the hard facts unfiltered..
and you fit the protocol of the shooters in South Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland etc etc etc
My school is on the same road
Never understood the obsession over the motive. It’s almost like an attempt to justify or explain it. The individual had an evil heart and access to a firearm. There is no such thing as closure in a situation like this and guessing a motive won’t bring the victims back.
Motive? Just look at all the leadership of this nation.
She was just nuts
And you are just ignorant.
This is all so terrible. None of this should be happening. Obviously, the girl had problems. Were her parents aware of her mental state? Was she bullied by someone and nothing was done about it? Was she having problems at home? Schools are going to have to have a full time law enforcement officer inside the school every day. Calling and waiting for help takes too long.
Do you ever think that sometimes it's about bullying
There have been bullies from the dawn of time, and there will be until the end. Social media has dimmed actual personal interaction skills. No one knows how to act around people in person anymore. It also seems many kids are beyond desensitized these days. These events have only skyrocketed over the past handful of years. Bullies have always been a thing, they just used to be dealt with differently. Society has changed drastically since social media took off.
There were bullies when I was in high school in the 80's but we didn't have school shootings
@dianahaist6073 we also didn't have social media. I'm seriously beginning to think that really does have a lot to do with these things now.
I thought students are searched when entering the school?
What was the motive ? Why is that a secret ?
Parents need to be aware of the effects of social media to their kids. You are allowing the world to influence your child especially during adolescence when they are very impressionable. If you can, delay giving them a phone.
Also, be intentional and take notice of your child. Parenting is more challenging nowadays but take control of what you can.
If guns weren’t legal to use through the whole USA, these incidents would be less. Don’t you think? Countries have way less problems with these types of cases where you can’t keep a gun at home.
Guns are not allowed in school zones, yet we still have gun violence in schools. The problem is truly a lack of morals, lack of mental health care..... 30 years ago guns were legal in America just like today. 30 years ago we did not hear about school shootings on a regular basis like we do today. Society has changed. Society has become cold and corrupt.
Wrong. People will always find a way.
Very simple salutations No gun owners in USA. This happens evry December or all the times. Her Parents must be in jail neglecting that gun. How 15 years old has a gun????????? Not fair to those families lost. Sadly
Yes arrested
Still confused as to why no metal detectors and security guards in us schools. How expensive is it?!
Extremely expensive, especially for a small Christian school
So you want to turn schools into Stalags?? Sick!
@EducationalRoots then individual families and the school should contribute or ask funding from individual or govt agency, it's One time expense, lower down other schools fees,..I am beyond angry, I don't even live there. But 85 in a year, what is that?!
It’s hard and unsafe being a teacher and people are talking about trans bull 💩
Still no motive?
Sick of being bullied. Same story as the rest of them. 😞
@@NjD.... how do you know?
@IsaacSanberg my speculation based on personal experiences 😖
@@NjD.... have you seen the manifesto?
Will a motive raise the dead?
Parents have to take the chance of being looked at as overbearing or controlling. Get them a phone w them knowing you'll be checking it. Put blocks on certain sites on internet. No internet access on phones. Check internet history. Keep computer in main area not their bedrooms. Some games were off limits like Grand Theft Auto. We had at least 6 neighborhood kids at our home at all times. Each of those kids graduated and all recieved scholarships. They are now a anesthesiologist, nurse supervisor, dentist & captain in navy. Lost touch w with the others but I'm sure they are all doing well.
One of the reports said this girl had 2 guns on her.. I will put the link here when I find it but this is terrible 😢
Did anyone actually see something.....
I wonder if they are only including American school shootings in that count. There was a girl in brazil who, about the same time, did the same thing. :(
Why are we talking about the killer and not the victims!
What not why.
Just stop owning guns and making them so accessible in your homes. School shootings don't happen this often in Europe. Why? Because kids don't easily find a gun at home and have to deal with sadness and frustration in other ways.
You think Guns is the problem wrong! that's not the Answer how it started is the Answer .
Ok... with that being said, a gun is not the ONLY weapon to kill. The one girl stuffed her bf in a suitcase. Another "xaused" the bf to un a live himself. There are knives, poisonious substances, theres more ways than a gun. Its trily the upbringing of the child next is the influences in life, video gaming is bad, then the way of education in the US... confuse the hell outta these kids. So many children cant read, they have nooo self worth,they're confused CONSTANTLY. The many they put on psych meds is insane in and of itself. Its not just parents with guns.
Lol😅😅😅
You are one hundred percent correct
Can’t stand this mayor. Just grandstanding. Drunk with power. Disgraceful.
Psyedonym name?Why?😢😮
Can you wonder why people act like that in a society
Lack of mental health resources and exhausted, poverty-stricken parents? Or the complete inability to lock up our guns from children?
Hatred and parents not parenting. Love encompasses all
I think the parents should go to school with the kids every day for awake....and they should use play therapy doing things that make them laugh...I'm 74 and been in healthcare since 1979..it works...still crying..love from Texas
Texas.....Howdy Arabia, where mass shootings are most common!