When the time change happens, there's an announcement on board that starts "Now hear this", which is commonly used to start announcements on US Navy ships - It's those little touches of world building that are impressive.
@@Daedalus-BC308 technically thats what the Galaxy class line of federation ships actualy was first constructed as to begin with starting with the prototype USS Galaxy all the way to the Enterprise D's sister ship the USS Yamato all the way the Venture and USS Venture and ofc the USS Odessy which was destroyed in DS9 in the Gamma quadrent which is the only Galaxy class ship that would spawn the future generation of the Odessy class in STO in the 25th century
This is one of the best STNG episodes, it draws you back in to watch multiple times. Star Trek always needs a Prune juice to get the good stuff flowing.
when Worf laughs out loud, nobody in the background looks up - they're all well trained extras, not looking at the stars or the camera, but it would look right that one time :P
Worf: "Klingons do _not_ laugh." Guinan: "Oh, Klingons laugh. Sure they do. _You_ don't." It was very OOC for Worf, so yes, they definitely would have reacted.
One thing that always impressed me about this episode is the lighting. After the "change" the light comes from below making everyone look military and ominous.
Picard looks drained and dead inside after the transition. He has dark eyes and looks much colder and harder; like the war has taken its toll and he alone knows they’re going to lose/
Also the Enterprise seems more like an actual ship with the added conversations, background noise, voice making announcements over the loudspeaker, and so forth.
Worf's reaction to the prune juice ("A warrior's drink!") always makes me chuckle. It makes me think one of the episode writers had an epic encounter with the stuff... and lost!
Guinan walks on to the bridge of the Discovery, "This isn't right. Something has changed." Michael Burnham responds, "What is it Guinan, what's changed?" Guinan, "Your uniforms, this ship. This isn't a ship of war, it's a ship of peace. Burnham, "We've known each other for a long time, I've never heard you mention this before" Guinan, "We weren't supposed to know each other at all! YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE."
Wesley Crusher's presence on the bridge in the alternate timeline takes on a darker tone compared to the primary timeline. The war is going so badly for the Federation that they're recruiting children to the war effort instead of just letting them tag along on exploration ships.
And they’re all being served combat field rations in the mess-hall/Ten Forward because the replicators’re all operating on minimum power (which is worse than on Season 1 of Voyager), which means that not only are they running out of fuel, dilithium and other abundant source of energy supply, the Federation’s fleet, then, are also running dangerously low on *FOOD* ….
Not only was the war going so badly for the Federation that they had to recruit children, it was going so badly that they had to recruit Wesley! Now THAT'S bad.
Guinan calls Worf a coward and he just plays along. Even in jest that seems a thing nobody else would get away with. Another little piece of character development that shows how liked and trusted she is.
Is not so much being liked, respected... ... just noone will stand up to her after she removes 1 piece of clothing for everytime someone questions her... .. as you see she's already bra- less, nobody dares risking the next being removed
This is an alternate timeline not an alternate reality. It is never explained how an alternate timeline affects contact with alternate realities such as the Mirror Universe!
I remember when this was first on television. I was amazed by it. Such a powerful, moving episode, with some great action. It should have been the first Next Generation film. It would have been astonishing.
@@brianwesley28 Not just the money budget. But also time budget. You can make a much deeper narrative if you have twice as much time with your audience.
Guinan was ridiculously op. in early star trek she like, held her hands up to defend herself from Q's powers, although it was never elaborated on. it's insane lol
This episode is one of the best TV of all time. The writing, the acting, the production, it all stands the test of time. Even this scene. Every time I watched this scene (which are many times) I always found Worf's reaction uncharacteristic of him when he laughed out loud, but in truth, Guinan loosened him up so much with the drink and conversation that he acted like his true self, an alpha-male Klingon. These small things, they tell you that it is really something special, this.
Note that this is the only time Guinan is legit SCARED. Not on aggressive like with Q in "Q Who?" (ST:TNG S2-E16), or on the defensive in Ten Forward when the Tyken's Rift made everyone paranoid and psychotic in "Night Terrors" (ST:TNG S4-E17) - she takes one look around and everything strong about her collapses - even just for a moment. Add to that she can't exactly place *what* is wrong, only that *something* is wrong, and that ambiguity is the only thing that I can recall has ever gotten through her defenses in this entire series so strongly.
It's because of the paradox. Even when Q appears, she knows who and what he is and is capable of. Here... she changes along with everyone else. Everything around her is as it should be. Her memories tell her it's right and nothing has changed... but her instincts are screaming that something has changed. That everything has changed. She doesn't know what the hell is going on but she knows it's all wrong. It's a terrifying concept and there are people in the real world who go through a rare condition exactly like this after brain trauma or a psychotic break. Everything is wrong, out of place and feels false.
The best part is the positioning of Patrick Stewart in this shot at 2:20 with his turn around to Lt Worf, turn back to camera with his head hiding Lt Worf from view, then of course the change in timeline. I can notice a difference in detail in the make up and lighting of Patrick Stewart at 2:36 and of course his head shot move reveals of course the surprise guest appearance.
The 'Yesterday's War' arc in _Star Trek Online_ gives the crew of the _C_ an interesting ending, not to mention what it does for Sela's character arc. Still love to hate her, though.
Plus another subtle character change in this alternated time line: Picard is no longer the diplomatic balanced explorer. He's now a battleship commander in a long war he knows is going badly. He's beginning to feel overwhelmed and Guinan just handed him another dilemma.
When I see any scene with Guinan where she uses some powers of control or reading of the timeline, I keep wondering if she ( her species ) would have been related to Kevin Uxbridge ( the Survivors, S03E03 ). She is as strong in powers as Q but with feelings of care and responsebility.
This was SUCH a good show. Its deeply upsetting how they deliberately ruined Trek. The characters, the stories, the dialog... it was all just so damn good. Goddamn sjws ruin everything they touch.
@@tommyc4641 no one here is belittling Picard, calling him old, arrogant, out of touch. Here, he is himself, and is respected. When Riker disagrees with him regarding the survivors, he doesn't say "Lol you're a naive old man, I know better." Guinan doesn't lecture him about how out of touch he is because he's a man and can't understand anything (like Troi did in "Napenthe") and even when he didn't understand something, he sought to meet Guinan in the middle. Y'know, like he would....because he isn't an idiot like they wrote him in "Picard." The writers of that show did more than age him 20 years....they completely changed who he was in order to tear down his "myth" and make identity politics points. It was simply bizarre, unneeded, stupid, and insulting. And if I ever interact with Michael Chabon online, I'll tell him straight out that he's a goddamned idiot. If he did indeed watch TNG as a teenager like he said, he completely failed to grasp the nuances of Picard the character.
I just now realized everyone's uniforms changed. It's not the silver belts they added. The collars even changed shape and Guinan's dress changed colors.
Surprised Guinan was even in that alternative timeline, bit unusual having a civvy on board a military vessel. Suppose they needed that individual to notice the altered version of events.
I love Worf's view on sexuality. He says almost the same thing to Riker about damaging the female crew during sex and Riker says "Mr. Worf, if it were anybody else, I'd swear you were bragging."
@@JohnS-il1dr but star trek was always a progressive show. They have always helped women escape the oppression. Now is am opportunity to stop showing violence toward female characters stop normalizing it more than is already normalized too much. Women are hurt in the street bleeding!
@@JohnS-il1drgive the anti-sjw, rape apologist stuff a rest. we live in a society where anybody can be falsely accused of any crime based on false testimony but rape apologists like yourself pretend to believe this is a phenomemon of rape accusations, even though rape accusations are overwhelmingly less believed than other accusations, even when they are obviously true, even though the overwhelming majority of sexual assaults are never prosecuted, based on the big lie that false rape accusations are commoner than other accusations. Did you know that rape accusations don't have to be untrue in order to be marked "unfounded"? That's the truth.
This was the first of the truly great episodes... I had given up on STTNG just a few weeks prior, but then my family told me that I _had_ to see this episode. Thankfully they taped it.
@@edwardk3 Yup. VCR in the family room. Can't tell you how important it was back then to always have a couple of VCR cassettes at the ready... otherwise, you _missed_ it until the re-runs came around. Ah, the early nineties.
One of my favourite episodes for sure. I liked it that Tasha was back and that the actress came back in 3 other episodes in next gen. I love it how she was credited as a guest star like Whoppi.
Yep that's the only time we actually see the ship. Although it's talked about in later episodes. And one of only a few times we see an Ambassador class starship on screen. The Excalibur and Horatio are the other times if I recall correctly.
Is it just me , or now that I'm older it seems guinan was straight up looking for some Worf physical activity. Worf be like girl I'd hurt you. And Guinan is like oh im a little more durable .indirectly of course. Then the timeline changes ruining all her slick moves she put on Worf.
@@arceusthecreator9746 I think Roddenberry's outlook of the future was a little TOO utopian and pacifistic...presuming that the Federation could just explore space at its leisure without having to worry about such things as war. In reality there should've been 2 Starfleets...an exploratory one crewed mainly by civilians with shields and limited weapons to defend themselves against the average pirate maybe and a military one crewed by seasoned combat officers and MACOs capable of handling long protracted warfare situations
@@josephamendolea3431 I believe you are correct sir but I believe that they intentionally avoided showing things like the Dreadnought class in the original TOS and The Steamrunner class in TNG to avoid making The Federation look warlike. Also you will never ever find any storyline based upon these ships perspective because they are warships.
Worf: Earth females are too fragile. Guinan: Yeah, so try me please! Worf: HAHAHAHA, Impossible Guinan: Please, please, please! I`m alone for so many years! I`ll make you so much prune juice
@@flemardo to be honest, I was a child when I first saw this, and always wanted to try prune juice but never got the chance. I should give it a shot...
This is such a cool idea for an episode, it's a shame I didn't "get" it when it came out. I was too young to understand what was happening. AND Back then I was watching nightly reruns so without seeing the show in order, I didn't realize that Tasha wasn't supposed to be there.
It wouldn't surpise me if she was. She and riker had a moment once trying to coach wesley on the finer points of social interaction, and that never went anywhere, and shes like a few hundred years old, shes probably had some very diverse relationships, shes mentioned several children i think. Though i think it was merely a dead end plot device starter, Q became very agitated and even seeminly afraid when he saw that she was on board the enterprise. Insinuating that she was like he a highly powerful being that was not to be trifled with. Im pretty sure that has been abandoned though, given that there was a novel in the 'stargazer' series detailing how she and picard first met, from picards perspective, since she already knew him when they first met from his perspective because of the time travel episode in which data's head got knocked off. I dont think she demonstrated any special abilities in that story and they sure could have used them then. Shes an interesting character for sure and while the new picard series is disappointing on many levels, im still watching it and im hoping that she gets some screen time and that they dont interfere with her character too much.
Alan Cogan. Well, as far as I know a cow’s stomach has four compartments and an alpaca’s three, therefore an alpaca is not a true ruminant, and therefore, no, wrong analogy🤷♂️🤷♀️ Anyway, although a Klingon may be a humanoid, so is e.g. a Vulcan and their general biological system has been known for quite some differences here and there. You may want to come up with a better reasoning to be convincing🤞🏼🖖🏼
Quark complained because the real profit is in alcoholic drinks. Soda pop and fruit juice are a fraction of the price of ales, wines and spirits. ...That said, the problem with this logic in Star Trek canon is that they're all produced by replicators, so the cost should be the same across the board.
This is my favorite episode of any of the Star Trek world. I remember watching it and jumping out of my seat when Tasha appeared. The story is great, but the acting is just so good.
I remember watching this when it was first broadcast, and Picard saying these words: "The war is going very badly for the Federation, far worse than is generally known. Starfleet Command believes that defeat is inevitable. Within six months, we may have no choice but to surrender." It actually sent a chill down my spine to hear Picard admit the mighty Federation was likely doomed...
@@nolaanderson8770 don`t you know the rules of Star Trek? Goatee happens ONLY in different realities, but there are no rules for having gold belts and long hair if the reality the same but damaged lol
I still remember when this one aired. I was in grad school, and the only thing all of us nerds could talk about the next day was, "Did you see Star Trek last night?" It was an absolute stunner -- still is.
Because of the Klingon war, Starfleet begin to militarized way earlier before the Borg Encounter and become more Terran like (the dagger, all human crew, CIC room) That’s very much how I like it :)
The entertaining thing here is that Worf spent about half his life exclusively around humans, he's absolutely aware of what they're like and that a lot of women would absolutely try to climb him like a tree if they got half the chance. He's just acting up his Klingon heritage for appearances.
And just a touch of strutting because you're right. He has the bed post notches to prove it. He didn't get thou high school and especially the Academy without being jumped on more than one occasion and more than one species.
Thank God Whoopee was asked to appear on the show, a superb actress and she and Ten Forward added so much to the show. We really should have had more interaction between Worf and Guinan, this is a lovely scene and you can tell Dorn is loving every moment of it.
My favorite ENTERPRISE of the line, and we only got to see her once on TV. We only seen 1701-C in technical manuals until this episode! I always loved how they put all the previous ENTERPRISE designs, and (kinda) blended them into one! Who am I kidding - I just LOVE the 1701-C.❤ End of story!
I once knew a Chinese guy raised in Canada and the US who NEVER visited China who had the strongest Chinese accent into his 60's. Where did it come from and why does he still have trouble pronouncing english? Its his native language ffs.
That's the funny thing about Worf. I always thought of him as "Old Testament" Klingon, as in he had no fellow Klingons to relate to, the only knowledge of his own culture is what he read from their literature, sacred texts, folk lore, movies, theater, music(why he likes traditional klingon opera instead of more contemporary artists)
Fans have voted that episode one of their favourites and i'd agree because it deals with an alternate timeline in an unusual way, namely that when the old Enterprise appears, time is instantly changed for those aboard Picards Enterprise BUT THEY DON'T KNOW IT..:) Only Guinan knows it because she notices that the crews uniforms have changed, and the layout and lighting of the ship has changed etc, I won't say more in case it spoils it for people who haven't seen the epi yet.:)
Guinan knew something significant was occurring the moment she saw the temporol rift forming. As an El-Aurian, she possesses the ability to sense many things far beyond the comprehension of the average mortal. And part of her exists in the Nexus which basically adds to her powers of perception.
This was perhaps the best episode dealing with a time travel paradox. Wesley's comment about how the Enterpride C had disappeared around Nerendra III was accurate, from their purview, because it did...from their view. In the Prime timeline, Enterprise C had mysteriously "disappeared" but suddenly reappeared and fought the Romulans. This was also the rise to LT Yar's daughter, Commander Sela who turned out to be a half Romulan, born as a result of LT Yar's rape while in Romulan custody. Since this alternate timeline has the Enterprise C here, this is what had happened to it when it "disappeared" from the prime timeline. They even addressed why the Enterprise D didn't follow the Enterprise C back through the rift and obliterate the Romulan warbirds in the prime timeline. They tied a lot of the ends together. Far better than any other episode. Since in reality, there would likely be no crossover between the timelines, Guinan's mysterious nature was a great way to bridge the gap and bring it back into sync. I loved when Kelsey Grammar showed up in the "Cause and Effect" episode, but that was poorly done as a time travel type of episode. They had to contrive a way to make sure that The Enterprise D could escape the causality loop or that would be it.
Anyone else notice in the very last scene when reality has supposedly been restored and Guinan is asking LaForge about Tasha... Geordi is still wearing the alternate uniform.
Amazing, just change in lighting, camera angles and uniform design put this episode into a completely and believable time period compared to the original. Such amazing production.
2:34 the vibe change here was so deep. Not sure how they conveyed the toll of a viscous long war on the alt crew's faces and demeanor but it was brilliant.
*Worf leaves 10 Forward after gulping drink...Guinan chuckles & says softly: "Yes Worf... Prune Juice and revenge - is a dish best served cold. Enjoy Klingon 'Blactaar'...the trots."
Gravimetric fluctuations happen to me after I drink prune juice as well.
Gravimetric Flatulations 😂
When the time change happens, there's an announcement on board that starts "Now hear this", which is commonly used to start announcements on US Navy ships - It's those little touches of world building that are impressive.
This had 69 likes so I didn't wanna ruin it but 5/5 did anyway
Personally, I think all announcements aboard Federation starships should start like that.
Also Combat Information Center CIC is mentioned… good stuff!
And Picard refers to the Enterprise as a battleship in his log entry.
@@Daedalus-BC308 technically thats what the Galaxy class line of federation ships actualy was first constructed as to begin with starting with the prototype USS Galaxy all the way to the Enterprise D's sister ship the USS Yamato all the way the Venture and USS Venture and ofc the USS Odessy which was destroyed in DS9 in the Gamma quadrent which is the only Galaxy class ship that would spawn the future generation of the Odessy class in STO in the 25th century
This is one of the best STNG episodes, it draws you back in to watch multiple times. Star Trek always needs a Prune juice to get the good stuff flowing.
What's the name of this episode?
@@ericwofford1896 Yesterday's Enterprise
@@ericwofford1896 Another good time shift episode is called Parallels
@@leokimvideo Thanks! 🙂
Totally agreed
when Worf laughs out loud, nobody in the background looks up - they're all well trained extras, not looking at the stars or the camera, but it would look right that one time :P
Very true.
Worf: "Klingons do _not_ laugh."
Guinan: "Oh, Klingons laugh. Sure they do. _You_ don't."
It was very OOC for Worf, so yes, they definitely would have reacted.
@@kurtr1181 yep, in Worf’s own words, he is not a merry man.
I just watched a bloopers video of the actor who played Worf breaking into giggles and its the best thing ever
But is that realistic? In real life when someone busts out laughing in a quiet restaurant or bar at least some people would look over.
One thing that always impressed me about this episode is the lighting. After the "change" the light comes from below making everyone look military and ominous.
Plus everyone is packing a side arm.
This must be inspiration for nutrek
Picard looks drained and dead inside after the transition. He has dark eyes and looks much colder and harder; like the war has taken its toll and he alone knows they’re going to lose/
Also the Enterprise seems more like an actual ship with the added conversations, background noise, voice making announcements over the loudspeaker, and so forth.
Feels like Star Trek: The Next Generation had its own Mirror Universe.
Worf's reaction to the prune juice ("A warrior's drink!") always makes me chuckle. It makes me think one of the episode writers had an epic encounter with the stuff... and lost!
For years fans would gift Michael Dorn with the stuff. Which he hates. :D
That’s just Worf labelling anything he likes as for warriors.
“This sofa is soft and extremely comfy. A warrior’s sofa!”
Drink enough of that stuff, you'll walk out of the bathroom feeling like you've jist survived a battle.
Guinan walks on to the bridge of the Discovery, "This isn't right. Something has changed."
Michael Burnham responds, "What is it Guinan, what's changed?"
Guinan, "Your uniforms, this ship. This isn't a ship of war, it's a ship of peace.
Burnham, "We've known each other for a long time, I've never heard you mention this before"
Guinan, "We weren't supposed to know each other at all! YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE."
*Kurtzman laughs in the background.*
Wesley Crusher's presence on the bridge in the alternate timeline takes on a darker tone compared to the primary timeline. The war is going so badly for the Federation that they're recruiting children to the war effort instead of just letting them tag along on exploration ships.
Nice spot
Never picked up on that before
And they’re all being served combat field rations in the mess-hall/Ten Forward because the replicators’re all operating on minimum power (which is worse than on Season 1 of Voyager), which means that not only are they running out of fuel, dilithium and other abundant source of energy supply, the Federation’s fleet, then, are also running dangerously low on *FOOD* ….
Not only was the war going so badly for the Federation that they had to recruit children, it was going so badly that they had to recruit Wesley! Now THAT'S bad.
Happen all thru history. That is like complaining about how it rain alot in some places and not enough in other places.
Guinan calls Worf a coward and he just plays along. Even in jest that seems a thing nobody else would get away with. Another little piece of character development that shows how liked and trusted she is.
Even Q wouldn't mess with Guinan, not sure if it was just trust and like.
Is not so much being liked, respected...
... just noone will stand up to her after she removes 1 piece of clothing for everytime someone questions her...
.. as you see she's already bra- less, nobody dares risking the next being removed
Noone isn't a word.@@mandelorean6243
i miss this whoopie goldberg. she has become an embarrassment. i used to find her fantastic. now she's just insane.
Man the alternate reality Enterprise D bridge with the moody blue lighting and side stations was so much cooler looking than the standard bridge.
I bet the set designers were thinking “Damn! I knew we should of went with this set first when we were designing the bridge.”
This is an alternate timeline not an alternate reality. It is never explained how an alternate timeline affects contact with alternate realities such as the Mirror Universe!
Note how in TNG they make the dimmer lighting work. While in NuTrek they just make everything dark and dingy to hide how cheap the set design looks.
@@Ben82077 No. Starfleet is exploration. Not military conquest.
Then you must love nuTrek.
This episode was absolute genius. Little touches like Troi disappearing. Counselor on a warship?
She could’ve stayed with a more military role. In the novels, for example, the mirror Troi becomes Picard’s security chief.
@@alexanderjones9572 maybe a slight nod to Roddenberry switching the roles of Denise Crosby and Marina Sirtis before they began production
She's interrogator. Her job is to break prisoners with her "counsel".
Betazed had already been conquered by the Empire.
Wow, I'm a 42 yo trekie who never noticed Troi isn't in this episode! Thx!
Outstanding episode. Still gives me chills, when the timeline abruptly changes and Tasha is back 😮!
I remember when this was first on television. I was amazed by it. Such a powerful, moving episode, with some great action.
It should have been the first Next Generation film. It would have been astonishing.
No doubt. Imagine if they had the budget of a full feature film for this episode.
@@brianwesley28 Not just the money budget. But also time budget. You can make a much deeper narrative if you have twice as much time with your audience.
At the very least, it could have been a double episode...
the last of season 3 stopping at an appropriate cliff hanger point & the first of season 4
I love it when Guinan joins him in a holodeck target practice, and his best is her warm up. :D
I just saw that, and I think she says that she bet she could make Worf laugh, which she did in this scene!
Guinan was ridiculously op. in early star trek she like, held her hands up to defend herself from Q's powers, although it was never elaborated on. it's insane lol
Guinan is a surprisingly likable character played by a thoroughly unlikable actress.
@@Durwood71 Yeah, if you're a right-wing chode.
@@Durwood71 Well, to give her credit, at the time she was still decent. It's later that she changed.
On ST-DS9 Worf orders a prune juice and Quark laughs at him. Worf being Worf his laugh was short lived. Great follow-up to this scene.
This episode is one of the best TV of all time. The writing, the acting, the production, it all stands the test of time.
Even this scene. Every time I watched this scene (which are many times) I always found Worf's reaction uncharacteristic of him when he laughed out loud, but in truth, Guinan loosened him up so much with the drink and conversation that he acted like his true self, an alpha-male Klingon.
These small things, they tell you that it is really something special, this.
I’ll second that.
I'd agree, everything comes together perfectly.
There. Are. Four. Lights!
Is better
@@rareram Right I like that too, different type of episode.
It is so sexist. He belittles her like that
Note that this is the only time Guinan is legit SCARED. Not on aggressive like with Q in "Q Who?" (ST:TNG S2-E16), or on the defensive in Ten Forward when the Tyken's Rift made everyone paranoid and psychotic in "Night Terrors" (ST:TNG S4-E17) - she takes one look around and everything strong about her collapses - even just for a moment. Add to that she can't exactly place *what* is wrong, only that *something* is wrong, and that ambiguity is the only thing that I can recall has ever gotten through her defenses in this entire series so strongly.
It's because of the paradox. Even when Q appears, she knows who and what he is and is capable of. Here... she changes along with everyone else. Everything around her is as it should be. Her memories tell her it's right and nothing has changed... but her instincts are screaming that something has changed. That everything has changed. She doesn't know what the hell is going on but she knows it's all wrong. It's a terrifying concept and there are people in the real world who go through a rare condition exactly like this after brain trauma or a psychotic break. Everything is wrong, out of place and feels false.
Sometimes it’s easy to forget she is an El Aurian and they have a special relationship with time because of their interaction with the Nexus.
It's like Trump on the view.
1:49 when Data calls ANYTHING "something I have never seen before" ..... that grabs my attention without delay.
I do not know what IT is.
Would have been an amazing movie in the franchise. So much potential
The best part is the positioning of Patrick Stewart in this shot at 2:20 with his turn around to Lt Worf, turn back to camera with his head hiding Lt Worf from view, then of course the change in timeline. I can notice a difference in detail in the make up and lighting of Patrick Stewart at 2:36 and of course his head shot move reveals of course the surprise guest appearance.
This is why you should never drink prune juice on a starship.
Because, as with prune juice, shit comes out and hits the fan?
One of TNG’s best episodes - and among the best pre-credit sequences of any Trek series.
The 'Yesterday's War' arc in _Star Trek Online_ gives the crew of the _C_ an interesting ending, not to mention what it does for Sela's character arc. Still love to hate her, though.
Do tell
Yes, Sela is too much of a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain than I'd like, but she is not as bad as Noye. Or as I like to call AnNoyeing
So many great lines in this episode. I love it when Picard gets angry at Guinan at shouts at her : "NOT GOOD ENOUGH DAMN IT ! NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!!
"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name - ENTERPRISE."
Plus another subtle character change in this alternated time line: Picard is no longer the diplomatic balanced explorer. He's now a battleship commander in a long war he knows is going badly.
He's beginning to feel overwhelmed and Guinan just handed him another dilemma.
One of the best episodes they made for this series. GREAT story, GREAT characters, GREAT acting.
Reminds me of the Twilight Zone Last Flight.
I always loved the mystery behind Guinan. In so many episodes there are always hints she is more than she seems and not just an El-Aurian.
When I see any scene with Guinan where she uses some powers of control or reading of the timeline, I keep wondering if she ( her species ) would have been related to Kevin Uxbridge ( the Survivors, S03E03 ). She is as strong in powers as Q but with feelings of care and responsebility.
OMG ! This episode is sooooooooo good.
No, its GREAT !!!
Possibly the very best episode of TNG, and thats saying a lot !
Now this is more like it, a top-flight TNG episode.
Those days are infinitely better than the age of the cultiralmarxist.
I’m gripped by these 4:55 mins more than the whole series of Picard
@@tommyc4641 Same here
This was SUCH a good show. Its deeply upsetting how they deliberately ruined Trek. The characters, the stories, the dialog... it was all just so damn good. Goddamn sjws ruin everything they touch.
@@tommyc4641 no one here is belittling Picard, calling him old, arrogant, out of touch. Here, he is himself, and is respected. When Riker disagrees with him regarding the survivors, he doesn't say "Lol you're a naive old man, I know better." Guinan doesn't lecture him about how out of touch he is because he's a man and can't understand anything (like Troi did in "Napenthe") and even when he didn't understand something, he sought to meet Guinan in the middle. Y'know, like he would....because he isn't an idiot like they wrote him in "Picard."
The writers of that show did more than age him 20 years....they completely changed who he was in order to tear down his "myth" and make identity politics points. It was simply bizarre, unneeded, stupid, and insulting. And if I ever interact with Michael Chabon online, I'll tell him straight out that he's a goddamned idiot. If he did indeed watch TNG as a teenager like he said, he completely failed to grasp the nuances of Picard the character.
I just now realized everyone's uniforms changed. It's not the silver belts they added. The collars even changed shape and Guinan's dress changed colors.
Surprised Guinan was even in that alternative timeline, bit unusual having a civvy on board a military vessel. Suppose they needed that individual to notice the altered version of events.
I always loved the look of the Ambassador Class. One of my favorite designs
I love Worf's view on sexuality. He says almost the same thing to Riker about damaging the female crew during sex and Riker says "Mr. Worf, if it were anybody else, I'd swear you were bragging."
This was filmed in a time when damaging women was celebrated. Even now we live in a brutal patriarchy
thank god i have no use for females,, and id give worf a ride he would NEVER forget too!! WOOOOOF!!!!!@@edwardk3
@@edwardk3oh give the DEI and SJW bs a rest. We live in a world now where anyone can get arrested because "believe her" no matter what
@@JohnS-il1dr but star trek was always a progressive show. They have always helped women escape the oppression. Now is am opportunity to stop showing violence toward female characters stop normalizing it more than is already normalized too much. Women are hurt in the street bleeding!
@@JohnS-il1drgive the anti-sjw, rape apologist stuff a rest. we live in a society where anybody can be falsely accused of any crime based on false testimony but rape apologists like yourself pretend to believe this is a phenomemon of rape accusations, even though rape accusations are overwhelmingly less believed than other accusations, even when they are obviously true, even though the overwhelming majority of sexual assaults are never prosecuted, based on the big lie that false rape accusations are commoner than other accusations. Did you know that rape accusations don't have to be untrue in order to be marked "unfounded"? That's the truth.
This was the first of the truly great episodes... I had given up on STTNG just a few weeks prior, but then my family told me that I _had_ to see this episode. Thankfully they taped it.
STTNG ?
Lol they taped it.
@@edwardk3 Yup. VCR in the family room. Can't tell you how important it was back then to always have a couple of VCR cassettes at the ready... otherwise, you _missed_ it until the re-runs came around.
Ah, the early nineties.
One of my favourite episodes for sure. I liked it that Tasha was back and that the actress came back in 3 other episodes in next gen. I love it how she was credited as a guest star like Whoppi.
It was an apology for killing her off in Skin of Evil without a proper sendoff
Then she became a lawyer and was the bane of Harvey Spector
The only canon appearance of the Enterprise-C, if memory serves me right.
Memory indeed serves you right.
Yep that's the only time we actually see the ship. Although it's talked about in later episodes. And one of only a few times we see an Ambassador class starship on screen. The Excalibur and Horatio are the other times if I recall correctly.
@@Shane-Singleton which one was the Ambassador class ship at the battle of Wolf 359? Was that the Excalibur?
@@michaelfreudiger... That was the Yamaguchi. 👍
@@DiscoRaptor I'd forgotten about that one.
Is it just me , or now that I'm older it seems guinan was straight up looking for some Worf physical activity. Worf be like girl I'd hurt you. And Guinan is like oh im a little more durable .indirectly of course. Then the timeline changes ruining all her slick moves she put on Worf.
Calling the Enterprise A battleship is equally Disturbing... This timeline is all sorts of wack
@@arceusthecreator9746 I think Roddenberry's outlook of the future was a little TOO utopian and pacifistic...presuming that the Federation could just explore space at its leisure without having to worry about such things as war. In reality there should've been 2 Starfleets...an exploratory one crewed mainly by civilians with shields and limited weapons to defend themselves against the average pirate maybe and a military one crewed by seasoned combat officers and MACOs capable of handling long protracted warfare situations
I thought she was trying to make some money.
@@josephamendolea3431 I believe you are correct sir but I believe that they intentionally avoided showing things like the Dreadnought class in the original TOS and The Steamrunner class in TNG to avoid making The Federation look warlike. Also you will never ever find any storyline based upon these ships perspective because they are warships.
She's not an Earth female
Guinan must need a wheelbarrow for those balls to call Worf a coward to his face.
This is my favorite episode on The Next Generation. They really created an atmosphere of dread and desperation throughout the episode.
Worf: Earth females are too fragile.
Guinan: Yeah, so try me please!
Worf: HAHAHAHA, Impossible
Guinan: Please, please, please! I`m alone for so many years! I`ll make you so much prune juice
She isn't from earth.
@@jesse3333 She is an imp that even Q fears
@@jesse3333 that was the point...
@@insertanynameyouwant5311 Ah okay. But maybe her race has a d***?
@@jesse3333 Even if so, I`m sure Worf is open to new experience
One of my all-time favourite episodes.
I still remember the chills when seeing Tasha in Worf's place.
The real question is how did Guinan know that prune juice was a Warrior's drink?
One of the people that worked on the show took inspiration from a book that had come out before this episode that said that Klingons love fruit drinks
@@johnnydoe7616 I just thought Klingons needed a lot of iron in their diet.
I'm kinda curious if prune juice sales went up after this episode
@@flemardo to be honest, I was a child when I first saw this, and always wanted to try prune juice but never got the chance. I should give it a shot...
@@JM.TheComposer Start with a little....or you'll be hitting the toilet with velocity
This is such a cool idea for an episode, it's a shame I didn't "get" it when it came out. I was too young to understand what was happening. AND Back then I was watching nightly reruns so without seeing the show in order, I didn't realize that Tasha wasn't supposed to be there.
HAHAHAHA. Impossible.
Also i think Guinan was trying to get with Worf.
She wanted some klingon snu snu.
She's not a human.
She wants to ride his Batleth.
It wouldn't surpise me if she was. She and riker had a moment once trying to coach wesley on the finer points of social interaction, and that never went anywhere, and shes like a few hundred years old, shes probably had some very diverse relationships, shes mentioned several children i think. Though i think it was merely a dead end plot device starter, Q became very agitated and even seeminly afraid when he saw that she was on board the enterprise. Insinuating that she was like he a highly powerful being that was not to be trifled with. Im pretty sure that has been abandoned though, given that there was a novel in the 'stargazer' series detailing how she and picard first met, from picards perspective, since she already knew him when they first met from his perspective because of the time travel episode in which data's head got knocked off.
I dont think she demonstrated any special abilities in that story and they sure could have used them then. Shes an interesting character for sure and while the new picard series is disappointing on many levels, im still watching it and im hoping that she gets some screen time and that they dont interfere with her character too much.
@@metamorphicorder Stop watching that series. It's not worth it.
This episode was always one of my favorites as a kid. I used to be able to quote the entire thing, I watched it so much.
Quark was not impressed though. "All he ever drinks is prune juice"
Yup. heh Because Root Beer is "to cloyingly sweet and happy".
@@erich4351 "It's Insidious."
Alan Cogan. 🤔 hmmm ... I wonder how you would know how the Klingon digestive system responds to prune juice❓🖖🏼
Alan Cogan. Well, as far as I know a cow’s stomach has four compartments and an alpaca’s three, therefore an alpaca is not a true ruminant, and therefore, no, wrong analogy🤷♂️🤷♀️ Anyway, although a Klingon may be a humanoid, so is e.g. a Vulcan and their general biological system has been known for quite some differences here and there. You may want to come up with a better reasoning to be convincing🤞🏼🖖🏼
Quark complained because the real profit is in alcoholic drinks. Soda pop and fruit juice are a fraction of the price of ales, wines and spirits.
...That said, the problem with this logic in Star Trek canon is that they're all produced by replicators, so the cost should be the same across the board.
This is my favorite episode of any of the Star Trek world. I remember watching it and jumping out of my seat when Tasha appeared. The story is great, but the acting is just so good.
I remember watching this when it was first broadcast, and Picard saying these words:
"The war is going very badly for the Federation, far worse than is generally known. Starfleet Command believes that defeat is inevitable. Within six months, we may have no choice but to surrender."
It actually sent a chill down my spine to hear Picard admit the mighty Federation was likely doomed...
It was a shame that none of the movies lived up to the shear excellence of this episode
Now i have to go and watch the full episode. This happens way too much!
You'll love it!
One of the best episodes of the series.
One of the best episodes of TNG. There is a monument to Captain Garrett in a Picard episode
For some reason sculpted from red cheese wax and immediately destroyed with a portal gun... but it IS there.
They should have an "evil Picard" with a goatee...
this isn't the parrell REALITY
and with long hair, but I agree with Andrew. Same reality
His uniform changed, he could have a goatee..."same reality" didn't prevent him from having a shiny gold belt
@@nolaanderson8770 don`t you know the rules of Star Trek? Goatee happens ONLY in different realities, but there are no rules for having gold belts and long hair if the reality the same but damaged lol
@@insertanynameyouwant5311 If I say "I know the rules" you'll just make up some new ones - first rule of fanboi dorkdon. I choose not to play.
Interesting factoid
Worf trained in the 1980's with the California Highway Patrol (C.H.I.P.'s)
He was Apollo Creed’s bodyguard in Rocky.
You mean Michael Dorn, of course. I'm sure it would have been all over the news if a Klingon was training with the California Highway Patrol.
Top 5 TNG episodes. Such a great episode.
That Guinan can call Worf a coward to his face and not get a "kill you where you stand" response shows that she is a major badass and Worf knows it.
Guinan was being playful whereas Picard was more in angry tone
I would have lost it if Worf ran back to finish the prune juice before continuing to the bridge.
or had to hit the toilet on the way to the bridge :P
@@josephamendolea3431 LOL
0:45 I would require a Klingon woman for ....... companionship.
well damn .... I never knew that Deanna Troi was part Klingon. lol
He also hadn't met Jadzia yet.
I would make an exception for troy as well.
LoL Nah Deanna isn't part Klingon, she just likes it really rough! /smirk
Worf seems to have a thing for half breeds.
She is actually half Betazoid and half human. They say that at least a dozen times in the series.
AMAZING EPISODE! I was 17. Senior in high school. This was one of my favorite VHS 📼 copies!
This isn't right, somethings changed....all my money is in Jason Aldean's bank account.
I still remember when this one aired. I was in grad school, and the only thing all of us nerds could talk about the next day was, "Did you see Star Trek last night?" It was an absolute stunner -- still is.
She noticed something had changed
This episode was by far one of the Top 3 Episodes of this show
1:54 mysterious alien boom mike in shot..
Where?
@@count7340 at the top of the screen
Good catch!
Glad they featured Worf here, as he was missing for the rest of the episode for obvious reasons
I love how the bridge has a dark brooding look.
It was a simple redress of the proper bridge. Many thought it was a different set, it wasn't.
@@johnking5174 I never said the set was different, just I like the dark atmosphere of it.
5/6/2024
6:15pm NYS USA time
3:22
I still get a chill
when TASHA'S says :
" ACCESSING REGISTRY
NCC . . . 1701 . . . C . . .
USS . . . ENTERPRISE "
This episode introduced prune juice, and cetacean OPS.
I love the rich simplicity of the camera panning down to Guinans torso, to allow for the capture of how different, how busy Ten Forward is now.
Because of the Klingon war, Starfleet begin to militarized way earlier before the Borg Encounter and become more Terran like (the dagger, all human crew, CIC room)
That’s very much how I like it :)
...and Picard refers to the Enterprise as a battleship....@3:55
You mean to avoid the Borg all together?
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I found this a very exciting episode that stuck in my head for days.
The entertaining thing here is that Worf spent about half his life exclusively around humans, he's absolutely aware of what they're like and that a lot of women would absolutely try to climb him like a tree if they got half the chance. He's just acting up his Klingon heritage for appearances.
And just a touch of strutting because you're right. He has the bed post notches to prove it. He didn't get thou high school and especially the Academy without being jumped on more than one occasion and more than one species.
Thank God Whoopee was asked to appear on the show, a superb actress and she and Ten Forward added so much to the show. We really should have had more interaction between Worf and Guinan, this is a lovely scene and you can tell Dorn is loving every moment of it.
My favorite ENTERPRISE of the line, and we only got to see her once on TV. We only seen 1701-C in technical manuals until this episode!
I always loved how they put all the previous ENTERPRISE designs, and (kinda) blended them into one!
Who am I kidding - I just LOVE the 1701-C.❤ End of story!
Considering Worf was brought up
On Earth from young age after being orphaned, he seems to be more Klingon in culture.
Its like when white people adopt a Chinese baby and overcompensate
I once knew a Chinese guy raised in Canada and the US who NEVER visited China who had the strongest Chinese accent into his 60's. Where did it come from and why does he still have trouble pronouncing english? Its his native language ffs.
That's the funny thing about Worf. I always thought of him as "Old Testament" Klingon, as in he had no fellow Klingons to relate to, the only knowledge of his own culture is what he read from their literature, sacred texts, folk lore, movies, theater, music(why he likes traditional klingon opera instead of more contemporary artists)
That’s a good name
I approve
I own this episode. nice choice! Captain Garret. :)
One of the best tng episodes ever.
Watching this episode as it aired for the first time in 1990 must have been absolutely mind-blowing
WARRIORS DRINK! Yes if the warrior wants to be regular.
It’s important for a warrior to be regular.
The darker bridge lighting of the alternate timeline is STILL brighter than NuTrek
Prune juice, a warrior's drink. Also makes you run real fast to the head when consumed excessively.
Fans have voted that episode one of their favourites and i'd agree because it deals with an alternate timeline in an unusual way, namely that when the old Enterprise appears, time is instantly changed for those aboard Picards Enterprise BUT THEY DON'T KNOW IT..:)
Only Guinan knows it because she notices that the crews uniforms have changed, and the layout and lighting of the ship has changed etc, I won't say more in case it spoils it for people who haven't seen the epi yet.:)
Guinan knew something significant was occurring the moment she saw the temporol rift forming. As an El-Aurian, she possesses the ability to sense many things far beyond the comprehension of the average mortal. And part of her exists in the Nexus which basically adds to her powers of perception.
This was perhaps the best episode dealing with a time travel paradox. Wesley's comment about how the Enterpride C had disappeared around Nerendra III was accurate, from their purview, because it did...from their view. In the Prime timeline, Enterprise C had mysteriously "disappeared" but suddenly reappeared and fought the Romulans. This was also the rise to LT Yar's daughter, Commander Sela who turned out to be a half Romulan, born as a result of LT Yar's rape while in Romulan custody.
Since this alternate timeline has the Enterprise C here, this is what had happened to it when it "disappeared" from the prime timeline. They even addressed why the Enterprise D didn't follow the Enterprise C back through the rift and obliterate the Romulan warbirds in the prime timeline. They tied a lot of the ends together. Far better than any other episode. Since in reality, there would likely be no crossover between the timelines, Guinan's mysterious nature was a great way to bridge the gap and bring it back into sync.
I loved when Kelsey Grammar showed up in the "Cause and Effect" episode, but that was poorly done as a time travel type of episode. They had to contrive a way to make sure that The Enterprise D could escape the causality loop or that would be it.
"Welcome to the very end of the road not taken."
God can we just go back to this Star Trek please!
Anyone else notice in the very last scene when reality has supposedly been restored and Guinan is asking LaForge about Tasha... Geordi is still wearing the alternate uniform.
One of my favourite episodes. Time travel has always fascinated me.
Prune Juice is Warriors Drink. I agree.
One of the best episodes in all of Star Trek.
3:22
when
Lt TASHA YAR says :
" ACCESSING REGISTRY
NCC ... 1701 ... C
USS ENTERPRISE "
still sends chills down my back
An alternate timeline with an unusual twist .... because of war someone lives instead of dies.
Damn, TNG writers just cannot be outdone. Amazing set-up.
Amazing, just change in lighting, camera angles and uniform design put this episode into a completely and believable time period compared to the original. Such amazing production.
This is why I don't drink prune juice.
2:34 the vibe change here was so deep. Not sure how they conveyed the toll of a viscous long war on the alt crew's faces and demeanor but it was brilliant.
Great show. I really love this series.
*Worf leaves 10 Forward after gulping drink...Guinan chuckles & says softly: "Yes Worf... Prune Juice and revenge - is a dish best served cold. Enjoy Klingon 'Blactaar'...the trots."
He was lunging.
Interesting how Captain Picard called the Enterprise a "battleship"
I keep forgetting how time travel always gives me a headache even in different scifi shows
“Drink your prune juice.”
Guinan subtly telling Warf he is full of sh*t. 😂😂😂😂
I like the fact that Guinan's origins have never been explained.
I love how cetacean ops is mentioned here in the announcement and all I can think about is the two beluga from Lower Decks.
I remember thinking back then.
There will never be a touch-screen computer.