This is one of the best golf tutorial videos ive seen on youtube. Can we pleeeease get the same video for Breaking 80? Amazing , easy to understand, structure and digestible information. Simple
excellent advice! thank you. Started focusing on lag putting with minimal aiming and putting from fringe this year and the scores dropped dramatically! Also drove w 3 wood when my driver was getting re-gripped. One of the best rounds of the year. Hmmm too much to think about. ha.
This is a great guide to scoring well on the course in general. Work on your game and swing during practice. When you're on the course - score as ruthlessly and efficiently as you can.
A year down the line and you only have to read some of the comments to see why golfers, on average, aren't improving! If you're a hacker then doing the same as you've always done isn't going to make you any better. Put your ego aside and open your mind to the possibilities that maybe, just maybe, someone actually knows what they're talking about. All these tips are valid, with a little adjustment, depending on where your current skill level is. When I first saw a scoring method video I was shooting 110 plus. I was so bad I couldn't even keep a genuine score because of all the penalties and frustrations. I took all the scoring method basics to a new course in the middle of winter and shot 100 exactly and legitimately. It was so clear that my short game completely sucked, I practiced it and within a few months I was down to mid 90s, a year I was shooting low 90s and now I'm trying to break 85. Improvement in golf is dependent on how much you can play and practice and isn't linear due to the randomness of the game but if you work on the right things you can improve.
Best golf video I've seen in years. Nice job. I have been thinking about using this strategy to stop shooting 91. I use 3 wood on the first 2 holes of my club for that reason, if I hit a bad shot it isn't out of bounds, I can still make a bogey.
I’d work on driver, most of us don’t play enough to avoid a bad hole or two out of 18, I’d say embrace that unless you play a lot it will happen and try and get your fairway percentage up as that will help you on every hole
Excellent points!! I use all of these except .... use the driver more than I should. My new 3H will be my safe fairway club on par 4s. As we all know if you're in the fairway you have a shot 😉
I like how you were demonstrating why you should putt over chipping and then chipped it in the hole. LOL. But I agree. I use my putter when ever I can. Even out of rough lies green side. Once its not too bad rough
Distance or dispersion? Golf course management. Chipping. Putting. Break 85? Not after an 8 minute video. Skill or lack thereof will determine the ability to break 85. But, it was a nicely done video!
I hit a drive on fourteen yesterday , driver is my go to club on this hole , its a long hole for me and bogey is fine my second shot was a 5 wood a bit above my feet but i felt i could draw it onto the apron from there and keep short of the bunkers , i fatted it a little and it fell to the right hand rough 60 yrds short of the pin 75 yrds is an easy 56 degree for me and i was into a stiff wind so that was my shot , i stiffed it a foot from the flag for a very rare par . I very much doubt i would have made par from the apron on a three foot tiered green with flag at the back . I wont say it was an eye opener but i will say its proof that what you and a very few others say is true . Play within yourself and to your best advantage . Big thumbs up from me and this video is now in my pre round playlist 👍 I will just add that if i play too conservative and have a crap round its worst than having a bad round where ive taken some risks 🤷🏻♂️
I shoot like 82 to 87 area, I feel like I definitely got these ideas down. I think I just need more consistency putting and knowing when to lob and when to maybe just bump with an iron.
My driver got me in trouble all day, everything else was working. I'm going to play a couple of practice rounds using a 5 wood or 3 wood off the tee. I've been pretty consistent with my driver until yesterday and absolutely forgot about this strategy. I used it in the past and it works
The pros often back off on a tight par 4 and use 3w. Driver should be fine on a wide open 4 or 5. I don’t think he’s saying never use your driver…especially if you can hit it fairly well?
I've got down to 18 in 3 years , and I can't over emphasise enough how important the short game is. Anyone can bomb driver , no good if youre making doubles and worse. Pitching, wedges, putting, half swing irons is now my fascination
Here are my 5 tips to shoot under 85: 1) get lessons, a bad golfer will never strategize their way out of being a bad golfer (I’m talking to myself on this one 😂) 2) practice 50% of your time around the green, get familiar with clubs 7i and down around the green 3) practice 3ft putts, having confidence with the short putts adds confidence to the rest of the short game as it relieves the stress 4) keep it in bounds, aim far away from trees and OB as you can 5) avoid punch out shots and fairway bunkers - anything that doesn’t allow you to make a full shot toward the green Side note: if your short game is trash, 85 isn’t going to happen ever so that would be priority #1
My Driver is my go to club off the tee - I use it on all but the short par 4s and 5s... I dont hit a 3 wood or hybrid any straighter than a driver, so why give up distance off the tee? I think it's because the club face of the driver is so much larger, so I have a greater margin for error. My 3 wood face is about half the size, so more room to screw it up, and i give up 20-30yds
Exactly!! If you hit your driver bad, I’ll bet you hit those fairway woods pretty nasty too. Distance matters! Plus it’s more fun to hit the big stick & you hopefully play golf cause it’s fun.
Absolutely. My driver is no less unreliable than any other club off the tee and is slightly longer, so is my go to club from all tees, including many par 3s.
This is where strokes gained apps come in handy. It quantifies a shot beyond our emotional response. You might well be best with a driver off every tee but there have been world class golfers who've been proven that what they thought they did isn't what they actually did.
🤣 if it’s Bermuda or thick brass around the fringe, this is where you definitely want to start using a hybrid as it will loft without you having to chip the ball. Break the friction and enable you to feel like it’s a putt.
Straightest driver in the history of the PGA Tour only hit 80% of the fairways. Tour data shows 3 fairway metal to be the same or slightly better. Great strategies here to help mid/high handicaps
You have got no idea what the average golfer is capable of. In my prime 1963-1983 I won 7 club championships, 3 district Championships and a VGL championship. Now at 78 I can’t reach par 4’s over 360m. In 2, so that effectively makes them par 5’s . Most courses would have at least 6 par 4 holes that length, making par for me effectively 78…breaking 85 is all about the length you can hit the ball. If you can’t hit it 200m. Breaking 85 on a par 72 course is not really possible. I can only hit the ball about 170m. Now.
@@waynesorensen7071 I bought a second hand driver in 2021 which I’m really pleased with… 170-180m. And a new lofted rescue which goes really well about 130m. The rest of my clubs are 18 years old. I did give the game away in 2010 I was playing off 6 then at age 66, so I could afford to travel overseas. I took it up again in 2021 and discovered I had lost about 50m with my driver. I’m only playing when I go to the country for a week or more so not regular and no practice anymore. Most of my scores now are between 85-90 with a few under and a few over.
You want me to hit 80% of fairways even though tour pros only average 70%. So don’t hit my driver until it’s my go to club🥴Seriously wtf are you saying here?
You’re a dreamer…players that are shooting 90.s aren’t going to keep 8 out of 10: tee shots on the fairway. Then you’ve got them trying to hit the green . They miss most greens and they aren’t great chippers…you’re a dreamer
“If I miss it, it’s not going in.” Can’t argue with that.
Reminds me of a study at Texas A&M where 90% of short putts didn’t go in.
At least he isn't lying to us!
This is one of the best golf tutorial videos ive seen on youtube. Can we pleeeease get the same video for Breaking 80? Amazing , easy to understand, structure and digestible information. Simple
Love the fact that every time he tries to prove a point he screws up. Fantastic!! I like this guy. He is absolutely right!
Never considered the importance of pace over line before - that’s a penny drop moment. Thanks!
Pace is the key the longer the putt the more important the pace.
Absolutely, I'm a 5 handicap and all these things hold true for me.
Good stuff! Thanks
Great video. I'm a 70s shooter but relearned several great principles
Love it! Thanks Matt.
Bloody good, particularly the putt tips 👍
Thank you!
excellent advice! thank you. Started focusing on lag putting with minimal aiming and putting from fringe this year and the scores dropped dramatically! Also drove w 3 wood when my driver was getting re-gripped. One of the best rounds of the year. Hmmm too much to think about. ha.
When this happens it’s a driver shaft type or length issue. Fix the driver shaft and it will be better than the 3 wood.
The trees are full of long hitters
This is a great guide to scoring well on the course in general. Work on your game and swing during practice. When you're on the course - score as ruthlessly and efficiently as you can.
Absolutely
A year down the line and you only have to read some of the comments to see why golfers, on average, aren't improving!
If you're a hacker then doing the same as you've always done isn't going to make you any better. Put your ego aside and open your mind to the possibilities that maybe, just maybe, someone actually knows what they're talking about.
All these tips are valid, with a little adjustment, depending on where your current skill level is.
When I first saw a scoring method video I was shooting 110 plus. I was so bad I couldn't even keep a genuine score because of all the penalties and frustrations. I took all the scoring method basics to a new course in the middle of winter and shot 100 exactly and legitimately. It was so clear that my short game completely sucked, I practiced it and within a few months I was down to mid 90s, a year I was shooting low 90s and now I'm trying to break 85.
Improvement in golf is dependent on how much you can play and practice and isn't linear due to the randomness of the game but if you work on the right things you can improve.
How awesome are these results. So great to hear!
Such a brilliant video, thanks so much. Went from 25 handicap to 10 in a year by applying many of these tips. Thanks again.
Awesome to hear!!! That's great improvement Andrew.
Best golf video I've seen in years. Nice job. I have been thinking about using this strategy to stop shooting 91. I use 3 wood on the first 2 holes of my club for that reason, if I hit a bad shot it isn't out of bounds, I can still make a bogey.
Lost balls are a scoring killer! Have to keep it in play.
Good advise. I'm stuck in the late 80's. Breaking 85 eludes me. I usually have 2 disasters that keep me out. That and bad driving accuracy.
I’d work on driver, most of us don’t play enough to avoid a bad hole or two out of 18, I’d say embrace that unless you play a lot it will happen and try and get your fairway percentage up as that will help you on every hole
For me, the answer was a 12° driver. So much easier to hit fairways and have more carry distance ‼️
Over reading lag putts have cost me plenty. Great points on all
best golf advice on youtube ever!
APPRECIATE it!
This is all so obvious but our egos stop us from doing the right things! Thank you for this! 😀😀😀
Great video! These are exactly what I need to do!
Solid very solid advice
Great advice, TSM.
Excellent points!! I use all of these except .... use the driver more than I should. My new 3H will be my safe fairway club on par 4s. As we all know if you're in the fairway you have a shot 😉
I like how you were demonstrating why you should putt over chipping and then chipped it in the hole. LOL. But I agree. I use my putter when ever I can. Even out of rough lies green side. Once its not too bad rough
Distance or dispersion? Golf course management. Chipping. Putting. Break 85? Not after an 8 minute video. Skill or lack thereof will determine the ability to break 85. But, it was a nicely done video!
Great practical advice!
great tips simplified, love it!
Glad you liked it!!
Five great points! Thanks...
Happy to hear they resonated with you!
Excellent tips!!! Thank you
Great lesson
Hope it helps you shoot consistently lower scores!
I hit a drive on fourteen yesterday , driver is my go to club on this hole , its a long hole for me and bogey is fine my second shot was a 5 wood a bit above my feet but i felt i could draw it onto the apron from there and keep short of the bunkers , i fatted it a little and it fell to the right hand rough 60 yrds short of the pin 75 yrds is an easy 56 degree for me and i was into a stiff wind so that was my shot , i stiffed it a foot from the flag for a very rare par . I very much doubt i would have made par from the apron on a three foot tiered green with flag at the back . I wont say it was an eye opener but i will say its proof that what you and a very few others say is true . Play within yourself and to your best advantage .
Big thumbs up from me and this video is now in my pre round playlist 👍
I will just add that if i play too conservative and have a crap round its worst than having a bad round where ive taken some risks 🤷🏻♂️
Great to hear your applying it to your game.
I shoot like 82 to 87 area, I feel like I definitely got these ideas down. I think I just need more consistency putting and knowing when to lob and when to maybe just bump with an iron.
Have you tried the Short Game Challenge? See if that helps with your short game and knowing when to keep the ball on the ground vs in the air.
Great video! Thanks.
My driver got me in trouble all day, everything else was working. I'm going to play a couple of practice rounds using a 5 wood or 3 wood off the tee. I've been pretty consistent with my driver until yesterday and absolutely forgot about this strategy. I used it in the past and it works
The pros often back off on a tight par 4 and use 3w. Driver should be fine on a wide open 4 or 5. I don’t think he’s saying never use your driver…especially if you can hit it fairly well?
Such GREAT advice! I’ll use this all on my next round. Thank you!
Thank you,that's great advice..
Glad it was helpful!
Good tips, thanks.
Thank you for this great advice.
Glad it was helpful!
best golf lesson ever @@thescoringmethod
2 and 3 are great tips...
I've got down to 18 in 3 years , and I can't over emphasise enough how important the short game is. Anyone can bomb driver , no good if youre making doubles and worse. Pitching, wedges, putting, half swing irons is now my fascination
If your are 18, stop giving advice
@@jordybeans2392 If you haven't got anything positive to say don't say it at all
@@jordybeans2392 that’s nonsense. he is giving advice to people who for whom being an 18 is their intermediate goal.
What’s the difference between 18 and 6 handicap?
@@waynesorensen7071 ? not a lot. Depends on ability and how you apply yourself
Thanks for this
Glad it helped!
I'm bad about #3....I chip way more often than I should, when I could putt it
Here are my 5 tips to shoot under 85:
1) get lessons, a bad golfer will never strategize their way out of being a bad golfer (I’m talking to myself on this one 😂)
2) practice 50% of your time around the green, get familiar with clubs 7i and down around the green
3) practice 3ft putts, having confidence with the short putts adds confidence to the rest of the short game as it relieves the stress
4) keep it in bounds, aim far away from trees and OB as you can
5) avoid punch out shots and fairway bunkers - anything that doesn’t allow you to make a full shot toward the green
Side note: if your short game is trash, 85 isn’t going to happen ever so that would be priority #1
My Driver is my go to club off the tee - I use it on all but the short par 4s and 5s... I dont hit a 3 wood or hybrid any straighter than a driver, so why give up distance off the tee? I think it's because the club face of the driver is so much larger, so I have a greater margin for error. My 3 wood face is about half the size, so more room to screw it up, and i give up 20-30yds
Exactly!! If you hit your driver bad, I’ll bet you hit those fairway woods pretty nasty too. Distance matters! Plus it’s more fun to hit the big stick & you hopefully play golf cause it’s fun.
Absolutely. My driver is no less unreliable than any other club off the tee and is slightly longer, so is my go to club from all tees, including many par 3s.
Lol Say what?
This is where strokes gained apps come in handy. It quantifies a shot beyond our emotional response.
You might well be best with a driver off every tee but there have been world class golfers who've been proven that what they thought they did isn't what they actually did.
The one key to playing better golf is playing more golf
twice a week is a must for improevment, hands down.
Putting on from the fringe - have you seen the fringe at my course ?😅
🤣 if it’s Bermuda or thick brass around the fringe, this is where you definitely want to start using a hybrid as it will loft without you having to chip the ball. Break the friction and enable you to feel like it’s a putt.
@@thescoringmethod oh - you’re assuming we have grass - I’ll look for some and let you know 😂
Great! Thank you b
Glad you enjoyed it!
The key to breaking 85 is to hit the ball less than 85 times per round.
Mmmm I do agree.
Good advice, Yogi.
Mr science you should be called Captain Obvious
It's like you made this video for me.
Here’s the major issue- I can’t break 100 because I have no idea what I’m doing with any of my irons. Might start playing with putter and woods only!
It's all about course management and being conservative. We all know this but it's more fun to hit driver. Golfers are eternal optimists off the tee😅
The key to breaking 85? Getting 84.
Or only play 9 holes. 😂
If you can use the flat stick... use it
Straightest driver in the history of the PGA Tour only hit 80% of the fairways. Tour data shows 3 fairway metal to be the same or slightly better. Great strategies here to help mid/high handicaps
Thanks Edgar!
Straightest driver is usually the shortest driver too ,-and never won a tournament!
You forgot to mention about taking our time between shots.
sound advice that
So you can get me from 109 to 85……
That’s so far apart I can’t even do the math….
Apply everything in the video over the next couple of months and see what happens. You may be surprised
Video would have been much better without the background equipment noise
This is me
When you can just "hit the ball generally where you intend to hit it", everything else is easy.
You have got no idea what the average golfer is capable of. In my prime 1963-1983 I won 7 club championships, 3 district Championships and a VGL championship. Now at 78 I can’t reach par 4’s over 360m. In 2, so that effectively makes them par 5’s . Most courses would have at least 6 par 4 holes that length, making par for me effectively 78…breaking 85 is all about the length you can hit the ball.
If you can’t hit it 200m. Breaking 85 on a par 72 course is not really possible. I can only hit the ball about 170m. Now.
Have you upgraded your equipment and ball lately?
@@waynesorensen7071 I bought a second hand driver in 2021 which I’m really pleased with… 170-180m. And a new lofted rescue which goes really well about 130m. The rest of my clubs are 18 years old. I did give the game away in 2010 I was playing off 6 then at age 66, so I could afford to travel overseas. I took it up again in 2021 and discovered I had lost about 50m with my driver. I’m only playing when I go to the country for a week or more so not regular and no practice anymore. Most of my scores now are between 85-90 with a few under and a few over.
Yoga , Gym, strength training
Anything is possible
I like my 1 iron.
I hate any kind of wedge..
Unless you're a single digit handicap, you've got no business gaming a lob wedge
Why not just spend that time working on the driver?
That’s what every one has been doing for years and this video is to show them now that working on driver does not work how to shoot lower scores.
You want me to hit 80% of fairways even though tour pros only average 70%. So don’t hit my driver until it’s my go to club🥴Seriously wtf are you saying here?
Tip #1 don't shank more than half your shots
Also very helpful 😂
stop saying "go ahead" its an Americanism and I hate it
Any suggestions on what to replace it with?
Being conservative tells your brain to be careful. You are telling yourself you will fail. No risk it No biscuit!
A chip and a putt is a simple par…not for people shooting 90’s…you spent too much time in your pro shop.
Multiple statements of the bleeding obvious….🙄
You’re a golf pro…well not a very good one. ..you need to watch some golfers who score 90. Then you might understand what their limitations are.
You’re a dreamer…players that are shooting 90.s aren’t going to keep 8 out of 10: tee shots on the fairway.
Then you’ve got them trying to hit the green . They miss most greens and they aren’t great chippers…you’re a dreamer
It's a bit obvious really isn't it ?
Easiest way to break 85 is just to play 9 holes.