Shadow couldve been created after the ancient Echidnas' Super Sonic prophecy, which would explain his spine shape and being built to handle Chaos energy. So he was modeled after Sonic before Sonic was even born, which is why they're so similar.
In Hydrocity zone from Sonic 3 & Knuckles, there are stone statues that resemble Sonic in the background for Act 1. And we can't forget the mural in Hidden Palace zone.
That theory isnt only more simple, but doesnt need comics and only the games, which are the ones that people normally thinks of when trying to make theories, also makes the pieces go together, sonic is a legend, shadow is a clone of him, they are 2 ways to tell the legend, the original one and the copy, the light and the shadow, they are the same but they are different, cool
@@axl256gamesx7 he has the same eye shape as Super Sonic too, there was the artificial Chaos, the Snake head like Mystic Ruin, them from later games Gerald found the Gizoids the Nocturnus Echidnas made, it only makes sense that Gerald saw the mural of Super Sonic and based Shadow on that. Even during the final fight in SA2, when Shadow is getting tired but Sonic isn't, Shadow says "I think I found out what the Ultimate Lifeform is, it might be you!"
Okay, it kinda makes sense that Sonic was born from the chaos force. It explains his insane speed and how he can utilize the chaos emeralds. But I don't think he's "the chosen one". Instead, I actually think he's the guardian of the chaos emeralds. I mean, since the very first game he's been collecting the Chaos Emeralds and he used them to stop baddies when he needed to, and it would explain the mural in the Hidden Palace. There's also the fact (at least I think so anyways) that Sonic's dimension is an alternate version of Blaze's dimension. Blaze is the guardian of the Sol emeralds of her dimension, so wouldn't it make sense Sonic would be the guardian of his dimension's emeralds? But unlike Blaze, he doesn't actually know he is the guardian of the Emeralds, Sonic is just trying to do the right thing but he's naturally attracted to the Emeralds because he is connected to them as their guardian. He is also the one person that manages to "reactivate" the emeralds when they're out of juice like in Adventure 1 and Unleashed. And although it's not canon, he manages to transform the Chaos Emeralds into the super emeralds in Sonic 3 and Knuckles. I feel like that feat alone seals the deal. I hope this is true. Even if it isn't, I'm definitely making it my personal headcanon. Also, great video!
Great theory on Sonic, I wish they would give him his hyper form back better than ever. Also sonic so get sum new powers too, something that rival Shadow powers. That give him big powerup and also I will be if his close hand to hand combat abilities tho. He should pull sum punches more often, I know he's a kicker fighting style, but he should definitely should do sum punches more often tho.
Him being a guardian would explain shadow's likeness to sonic. The mural depicting sonic would prophesied a guardian of the chaos emeralds and the only people who would know about it were the ancient echidna including tikal. Which would mean doctor gerald would have found the needed information to creating the perfect ultimate lifeform who would have complete control of chaos because at first he thought it was a giant lizard (which kind of looks like chaos I guess). Sonic being a guardian would also give him a connection to Chaos as many fans connected already with the eyes being green.
Yeah I agree! It probably means nothing that Blaze's shoes look like Sonic's it's a small detail but like you said his dimension is an alternate of hers, so he's her but in his dimension (yeah my theory is based on there shoes idk) and that time in rush they worked so well together
Shadow is actually the strongest sonic character shadow can boost up his power like chaos boost aka dark shadow and hero shadow and before you say, the transformation is actually a power up.
I once had an idea that Sonic And Shadow are actually two halves of what once was the true ultimate life form. And the Mephiles and Iblis thing was supposed to mirror this. Probably not true, but just an idea.
Thegalactiknight That actually sounds pretty cool, and would also explain why both can be kinda one dimensional but in different ways. Only problem would be that they would have to be split at some point either on the ark or after Shadow was ejected, but I’m sure it could be made to work.
I believe that when Shadow tells Sonic that he may be the Ulitmate Lifeform, he's referring to the fact that Shadow is based off of Super Sonic. (This is why he only mentions it when they are in their Super-Forms.)
In Sonic Unleashed, there’s another example of the Chaos Factor: after the werehog is launched into space, he’s save by s green orb that breaks his fall. Now you say that’s Chip/Light Gaia, but that’s never confirmed in the game.
But at the end of the game, we see chip create a green orb around sonic and send him back to the surface which confirms that chip created the orb to protect sonic before he lost his memory at the beginning of the game.
@@charliemulcahy6314 Yeah I just realized my mistake. But it still could be the Chaos Factor. It just so happened that Sonic was falling where Chip was reawakened and that Chip caught Sonic in time before he hit the ground.
But that’s also just called plot armor there wouldn’t be able to be a game if they just said “welp sonic can’t beat this guy game over you can no longer play” I think it’s just plot convenience so they can yknow... make more games
@@charliemulcahy6314 And what can you say to the fact that when they first landed, Chip was unconscious, and when he woke up he could not even remember his name, not to mention his abilities.
I remember Eggman also claiming that Sonic was an embodiment of Chaos. (I think it was around the time he lost his mind in the Archie Comics) I always figured he had some special connection to chaos energy. He’s basically the only being who has a totally natural affluence to using the emeralds without any training or condition outside of himself. Aaaaaaand, because that has been my though, I never really questioned the powers movie Sonic has. I chalk it up to a more apparent showcasing of his “chaos factor.” It feels like the director is very familiar with Sonic lore and I even got Archie Comic vibes from the movie. If that was the movie’s intent, then I’m excited for this side of Sonic to be more explored.
@@rhyno39 / Is true, they say that hedgehogs have more facilities in transforming themselves into super form, they have a stronger connection with the chaos emeralds
@@rhyno39 Well tbh it shouldn't be a species specific thing to use the Chaos Energy. I think it severely limits tge usage of its utility. "Need a character that can use chaos energy? Just add another hedgehog!" It should be for anyone who has an inherent connection to Chaos Energy. Hedgehog or not. In terms of the gaming lore, the only main non robotic characters that have explanations for their use of the "Chaos Force" is Sonic, Knuckles and Shadow. Anyone else is just for gameplay like Tails for example. Why does he have a super form?(I rather call it a Chaos Form). Oh its because Sonic can do it and we need the player to feel accomplished when they play as Tails. Thats it. Silver doesnt really have a decent explanation either when I think about it lol. They really need to expand on the "Chaos Force" in this series its real intresting to me. What if they take the route that Chaos is *literally* Chaos (as in disorder). The goal of mastery is to tame chaos (Chaos Control wink wink) and tame it to the point were its more reliable to use. It becomes Stable Chaos. Fleetway Super Sonic had that similar idea going on taking a literal interpretation of Chaos Energy.
@@justcallmekai1554 ooooooo, going baack to a 9 month old comment is interesting. You are right tho. I have thought about it more since then and it doesn't seem to be just a species thing (or at least i don't want it to be) as knuckles can utilize the chaos force to an extent. A different theory I have is that everyone can make use it but some are much better at utilizing it than others. This imo, means that if a species has been able to access and control the chaos force, it gets passed down in their genetics. Hedgehogs already seem to be quite fluent in those abilities for some mysterious reason, and echidnas have been around the chaos emeralds for a long while. A fox like Tails however hasn't had much experience with chaos energy, nor (I'm assuming) his ancestors. I also agree on building the "Chaos lore" because chaos energy seems to be able to do everything for anything and I need answers as to why XD. Your version of it is probably my favorite :)
My theory is somewhat similar. Sonic always was able to have that speed of his, however it wasn't what it is now. Sonic also didn't have a connection to Chaos energy to start with, but using so many Power Rings and collecting 6 of the 7 Emeralds did something to him. He eventually collected all 7 Chaos Emeralds, but to no avail. When the Death Egg exploded, that when the Emeralds reacted to Sonic's "Wish" which turned him into his Super State for the first time. It also gave him a minor connection to the Chaos Force, which boosted his speed when he reverted to his regular self. Also taken from the Archie Comics, every time Sonic depowers from his Super State, he's always just a little bit stronger. This resulted in his fur changing a darker blue every time, and his speed was getting cranked up. When he went into his Hyper form, the Chaos Emeralds didn't go back to how they were. Instead, Sonic was hit with such a MASSIVE amount of Chaos Energy that resulted in his eyes turning a similar shade of green as the Master Emerald, and now Sonic has a decent connection to the Chaos Force. Not as strong as say, Knuckles or Shadow, but a connection nonetheless. However, his Hyper form could no longer be used when that happened. After defeating Chaos proper, Sonic could start reaching speeds of up to Mach 10 on his own accord. After defeating Solaris however, Sonic's power shot through the roof as he can now expel Chaos Energy as he's running full tilt, allowing him to breeze through enemies. Least, that's my theory
@@raveolygaming6781 right under that I state Sonic's power shot through the roof after beating Solaris. That would Also include his speed, hardiness, stamina...just about everything.
Also I think that as he had so much master emerald energy, as his eyes turned green, Sonic's power might have bounced back onto Tails and Knuckles which turned there eyes blue (Sonic's colour) as a result of him being with them 24/7.
Something interesting that could make an interesting connection between Sonic and Shadow is that the Biolizard in Sa2 has a modified combination of both Sonic's and Shadow's Jp voice actors. And its Roars are basically slowed down screams of each actor. (I heard about this from Ruby of Blue's video on Sa2's Story being the best)
ALSO the paper Rouge shows shadow details that the bio lizard has an organ that lets it use chaos control there could be some connection there as to how characters like shadow can use chaos control without an emerald.
@@Specialzone5 The Biolizard also had an external cybernetic connected to that organ. That device could have stored the chaos energy the Biolizard used to perform chaos control. Shadow doesn't have that attachment so it's still up to debate if he can do chaos control(teleportation and stopping time) without a chaos emerald.
You know...maybe the Phantom Menace analogy isn't so far off. It's later revealed that the reason the Force created a Chosen One was because the Sith had discovered how to use the Force to manipulate life, and Anakin was the Force basically hitting a panic button. What if Sonic is similar? Gerald Robotnik created Shadow, an artificial being, using the Chaos Force, and having a panic attack, the Chaos Force created Sonic as a reaction to balance things out.
@@thesilverace01 I thought not... it's not a legend GUN would tell you...he was a scientist so powerful and so wise, that he could manipulate the Chaos Force to create...life.
My theory is super basic and not as cool sounding but I'd like to think that certain creatures on Mobius are just born with natural super-powers, it's random kind of like quirks from MHA or something, hence why some characters have power and others don't, but presumably Sonic and his gang wouldn't be the only mobians to have powers like that, they're just the only ones we've seen so far 😊
I think the reason is that he was connected to the chaos force is a good person. If you think about it, we have seen Sonic perform many Noble acts of kindness. Even though this isn't cannon, Sonic possibly could've ran away from Galems beams, but instead he stop to grab picachu or at least tried to. Mind you out everyone else in that scene, Sonic was the only one who looked back to try and save someone. Link didn't tryed save Zelda, Pit and Dark Pit didn't try to save Palutena. Kirby was over here just just flying through the sky, Snake tryed to hide in box and the list goes on and on. The only other person that I saw try to help was Bowser with the Pokemon trainer and Shulk trying to warn everyone of what was coming. So yeah, me personally, I think that Sonic is just a kind person and that he is made using the chaos force which your theory. Plus Sonic has resisted min so control before in Sonic and the dark brotherhood.
In the movie, it was hinted at the Sonic's speed is some manifestation of Chaos Control. It explains why the Echidna kept trying to hunt him down as a child and why a single quill was able to power Robotnik's mechs.
I'd say Sonic is indeed the ultimate life form Shadow, storywise, was meant to be that, his shadow, a dark reflection of what he is And plotwise, there's the theory that Shadow was created based in one of the murals like the one from the Hidden Palace showing Hyper Sonic against Eggman It's likely that Gerald thought the hedgehog prophetised there was the ultimate life form, so he sought to create it himself and in the end we got...well, two "ultimate life form"s which reflect one another
Shadow could represent the games "Dark sonic." Explaining his stronger grip of chaos energy. While sonic is what shadow was meant to be, a hero of kindness and passion. But with shadows troubled past hes more dark than the original. Tails is able to fly because he met sonic and some chaos force rubbed off on him, It explains knuckles's strength aswell The master emerald chose him. And with that he had his powers chosen. It makes alot of sense, It also explains why amy is attached to sonic, she might've felt chaos force rub off on her and wants to be with sonic As for the chaotix.. They're just highly trained. Rouge is aswell.
Alright hear me out But what if JUST what if Sonic was made onboard the arc aswell? My reasoning to believe this is due to the fact shadow calls sonic the "Ultimate life form" Though i dont believe hes part black arm. I think hes part wisp, explaining his speed, his link to chaos force and his natural wisp speed makes sense of why hes able to run faster than an average hedgehog And it explains his strong connection to the wisps, no one else uses them So perhaps gerald in his younger days created sonic, with HyperGo-On energy, before sonic was sent into a coma for a while. Due to the overload in power that could have happened if the black comet had appeared, Once sonic was in the coma gerald teamed up with the black arms and created shadow Sonic cant get his memories back due to the fact its not just amnesia they were erased. Unlike shadows My reasoning for his memories being wiped is the chaos force, not wanting sonic to know his own origins.
@@ykgcaramel6515 Indeed Sonic is the natural embodiment of life, the choosen wielder of the emeralds Shadow is man's atempt of creating that, the ultimate being, and thanks to Gerald's genius it succeeded
After reading the last issues of Sonic IDW that came out, I rewatched this theory about this origin of Sonic's Powers, and for me it seems very possible that Sonic chaos factor not only gave him the ally he needed to stop the Metal virus in the person of Silver, but that this chaos factor could also be the reason why he landed in the sol dimension, right in front of Blaze, the only person able to make him remember the memories he had lost, and send him back home in his dimension. The Chaos factor could not only be the reason why Sonic regained all his memories that easily, but it could also had ensured Sonic's friends victories against the apocalyptic crisis of the metal virus.
Your theory is indeed ridiculous but that doesn't make it invalid. It's pretty clear that Sonic was intended to be a counterpoint to Shadow in-universe. Have you seen the Game Apologist's video on Hyper Sonic? This theory would certainly explain why Sonic seems to learn better control over the emeralds than anyone else (heck, in SA2 he uses that control over something that's not even an emerald).
The emerald was a fake, it resembles the chaos emeralds, but lacked the whole infinite energy universe warping power. People bring it up as a plot whole often enough that sonic definitely did not have a good opportunity to learn chaos control and that emerald is a fake and shouldn't give him the power to chaos control. Which begs the question did sonic always just have that power.
My head canon for Sonics backstory is that he was a second attempt to make shadow but slightly better. An often overlooked fact about project shadow is that it seems to have started with chaos from sa1 as the base. First there was the artificial chaos which were just robot versions of chaos. Next there was the biolizard that is similar to perfect chaos and even makes the same cry as perfect chaos at the beginning of its boss battle. And then there’s shadow who just like chaos can use the chaos emeralds power. At the time of sa2 the only characters who could use the chaos emeralds were sonic, shadow, and chaos. This would be an explanation as to why sonic and shadow have chaos powers as they would have the dna from chaos who himself was a mutated Chao that got turned into a water monster by the chaos emeralds. The idea that sonic was a second shadow also explains why they look so similar and both are conveniently hedgehogs. It’s already speculated that the reason Gerald made shadow a hedgehog was because of the mural so it would also make sense because sonic and shadow would be somewhat related. Sonic could have never been awakened on the ark so that could be why he has no memory. I believe it would go something like this. When Maria launched shadow to earth it also launched a freshly created sonic that had yet to be truly introduced to the world. Once he lands on earth I believe he wouldn’t be found by gun because as far as they are aware they have captured the ultimate life form. Sonic probably awoke some time later but I believe that sonic would be a child. Why? Because at this point in SA2 the classic games were still part of the timeline which they still kind of are but I don’t know what the classic games are considered to be now a days. Any way sonic appears much younger in the classic games so one of the changes made to the shadow 2.0 or sonic is his ability to age. When he awoke he would have been a child and likely would not remember awakening in a crashed escape pod. Then he would go on and eventually start the events of sonic 1. This head canon explains a lot of the dialogue and plot points in sa2 but I don’t think this would be the canon of today. I only believe this was the original way the story was going to go after sa2. Sonic hero’s and onward dropped a lot of plot points that were unfinished in sa2 and even brought shadow back from the dead. Still elements of this could become canon or even the whole this idk. Well I’m tired of writing now it’s been 30 minutes so yeah...
I agree to this that explains why Sonic and Shadow are similar. also like Shadow Sonic was also built to use chaos energy And that means Sonic and Shadow are brothers
But isn't part of the catch with the ultimate lifeform thing immortality in some way? Like, maybe Sonic stops aging at a certain point and basically has eternal youth?
im sure it was going to be if the dreamcast survived but after the dreamcast they just bitching around with sonic and released a bunch of random sonic games like it's mario! fortunately sonic adventure remake can change it soon
Personally, I interpreted Shadow's line as just him complimenting Sonic, though this theory is pretty interesting! I always thought it weird that they were said to have similar powers despite their origins having nothing to do with each other.
I've always sorta had this feeling they were building to this conclusion slowly but surely. In Sonic 1, we see (at the end) Sonic restore peace to Green Hills and such after attaining six of the seven emeralds. Sonic 2 has him learn the secrets of the emeralds to channel into a super form. In S3&K, not only is he prophesied in the Hidden Temple or whatever, but he's the key to the Super Emeralds; he basically shows Knuckles something that HE, the guardian of the emerald, never knew about, and opens his gullible heart. Speaking of opening hearts, in SA1 we see Sonic take on a literal enraged god and purge the hatred from him using the good Chaos energy. SA2 expands upon that as he takes on a man-made Chaos (assuming Gerald got the idea for a giant lizard and a hedgehog from the echidna murals that is) and with the assistance of another super powered ultimate lifeform project, he uses a power he originally attempted with a FAKE emerald to teleport an entire space colony with living beings inside safely to orbit. Each game he was getting stronger, more in tune with Chaos energy, becoming an ultimate lifeform of sorts... I believe this was the underlying narrative they kept subtly growing under our noses. Also, Sonic backwards is cinoS, which if you pronounce it with the C like the c in SONIC (something like kin-os), it sounds an awful lot like CHAOS. Maybe. Probably wrong about a few things. 3AM here, drunk and going on roughly 4 hours of sleep as is, but I saw this video and I had to put my crappy two cents into it. Good video, by the way. Kudos.
I think it was said that hedgehogs inherently have super speed? So that'd mean Sonic was born with it, he just happens to quite possibly be one of (if not, the) fastest of his species.
This theory actually makes a lot of sense. Rouge said in Sonic Adventure 2 that there were multiple tests in "Project Shadow" and none of them were found. This makes sense if sonic was never in stasis like shadow and just left the crash site. Plus sonic and shadow are both hedgehogs, Professor Gerald was the smartest man on earth and it makes sense he would experiment with hedgehogs, which were a naturally fast animal. Great video!
I think when shadow said "there was a protype before this" shadow was the prototype and sonic wasn't and they got mixed up so shadow was said to be the ultimate life form when sonic was all this time
7:36 - 8:14 Here I thought you were going to say something along the lines of that Chip was able to sense Sonic's connection with the Chaos Force, and that he knew that this said connection wouldn't let him give into Dark Gaia's Energy, even though the Werehog form is more or less caused by Dark Gaia's Energy. Sonic is too important to the Chaos Force to just be corrupted. That's what Chip meant when he said he was too strong to lose himself. But I guess your explanation works.
I mean... even taking those comics you used to come up this theory, in those same comics Sonic is born, not created. And in Sonic Chronicles it is said that Super Speed is a natural thing of hedgehogs. Also, aren’t we going to talk about Tails who battled and defeated Chaos 4 alone? He also helped Sonic to defeat Metal Overlord in Sonic Heroes. And both Burning Blaze and Super Sonic couldn’t defeat the Egg Wizard if it wasn’t for Marine ( a bit stupid though ). And in 06, Sonic was killed by Mephiles. To me, Sonic is born with that power. His speed may be something rare even among hedgehogs, but that’s natural. Even among humans there are cases of people having some qualities that surpass the overall standard. Same goes for his skills in using Chaos power. He started using the emeralds since Sonic 2, so he is just more experienced than Shadow and everyone else. Remember that Knuckles knocked the emeralds out of him ( it was explained that Sonic was inexperienced and needed concentration, so his punch broke apart that concentration ). If he was in some way connected in a special way to the Chaos Energy, it would have been natural for him to stay in his Super Form. But it wasn’t at first. As for the lyrics “You’re losing your speed, you’re losing your flow! But inside me there’s a power you’ll never know”, well. It’s a good theory. But, Dark Gaia’s Power depleted the Chaos Emeralds, meaning that it would have depleted Sonic’s chaos energy if he was the wielder of such power. Even in the end of the Battle, Super Sonic fell unconscious, meaning that Dark Gaia’s energy indeed depletes the Chaos Energy’s Power ( Something that didn’t happen when he was battling her/him in base form ). So, his Werehog form is indeed due to Dark Gaia’s energy. After all, we all saw that it mutates creatures such as the Dark Phoenix and the Dark Moray. Probably what the song was talking about was his Unbreakable Willpower. Sonic already battled the Ifrit. So, it’s only natural. As for the argument of “who’s stronger between a God Genie and the emotions of a Hedgehog” well, the emotions of course. The 7 World Rings are based on emotions, that’s the whole point. Also, Erazor Djinn had to kill the collector of the 7 rings to become Alf Layla Wa Layla ( 1001 Nights in Arabic ) and rule over the Arabian Nights, but he killed Shara. Not sonic. Hence, the ritual was incomplete and he couldn’t possess all of the World rings by the laws of the creator of the Arabian Nights. In the end, prodigies exist. Look at Dragon Ball for example. Broly is the legendary Super Saiyan. The strongest of his race and with the most hidden potential. Sonic is probably a prodigy too. To me, they should introduce his parents or siblings one day, so that they give us some insight in his back story.
At this point, Sonic isn’t just a prodigy. He grows stronger at an alarming rate, and the Japanese dialogue for The End heavily implies that Sonic is some embodiment of life which actively defies death on a cosmic scale, which is relatively consistent with how Archie worked and would explain why Sonic can miraculously escape cyber space and tank cyber corruption.
Number 1 Piece of Evidence, Sonic uses chaos control for the First time when he’s in a dire situation in sa2, He’s being shot out from the arc in a capsule ready to blow I believe it wasn’t the fake emerald, that high Stakes situation was able to kick in and jump start his hidden chaos energy
Actually the hieroglyph in the ruins foretold Sonic's first transformation into Super Sonic to fight Eggman. Gerald Robotnik had studied the ruins and based Shadow off of the hieroglyph as he saw that as the answer to creating the Ultimate Lifeform. Which means that Sonic is not just the Chosen One he inspired the creation of Shadow.
i like the idea that sonic was just chosen by the chaos force or something but i also like the idea that he was influenced by the blue chaos emerald, the emerald of speed
LOL - 3:20 I've always considered Shadows design to be made after the prime species. In essence, Shadow is modeled after Sonic - or rather the species. After all, Sonic gets Shadows abilites organically with time. Or at least that's how it has seemed.
Honestly, at this point, I could subscribe to any of these theories. Sonic being created alongside Shadow on the Ark, Sonic just kinda coming into existence due to the Chaos Force or whatever, Sonic being from an alien species of powerful chaos hedgehogs, all of these sound good to me. I personally like the idea that Sonic was created on the Ark alongside Shadow, and maybe lived on the Ark for some time with Shadow, but when the attack on the Ark happened, he was also rocketed to Earth, but GUN only ever found Shadow’s capsule, leaving Sonic’s to slowly decay until it shut off entirely, releasing a Sonic who had lost his memories from the fall.
Why when I read this I immediately remember Exetior. And Sonic, who is so weak that he cannot do anything to stop the demon from destroying his friends and just looks at it all.
Great theory on Sonic, I wish they would give him his hyper form back better than ever. Also sonic so get sum new powers too, something that rival Shadow powers. That give him big powerup and also I will be if his close hand to hand combat abilities tho. He should pull sum punches more often, I know he's a kicker fighting style, but he should definitely should do sum punches more often tho.
umm the song, endless possibility isnt evidence... the verse: just let it out, it's inside you! That is in fact written because the guitarist and vocalist: Jaret Reddick, was having problems with his family and wife... he meant that he wanted to let out his anger... he slipped it in...
I always just saw the whole "Sonic is the true Ultimate Life Form" thing as he's a child of proficiency and that Shadow was an imitation of that. If we wanna believe Mural Theory then Shadow was based on the depictions on Angel Island of Super Sonic. This would also explain why Shadows quills look Super Sonics specifically from the Adventure games.
i had a very similar theory not too long ago, but instead of being created by the Chaos Force i believe he was created by Argus, or possibly IS Argus. Prepare for a wall of text: 1: 4000 years ago the Chaos event occurred, leaving the world in the hands of the nocturnus clan. 2: The Babylonions were an incredibly advanced alien race that crash landed on earth sometime at least ~1000+ years ago and were worshiped as gods. 3: After taking over most of the world Argus arrived and whisked the entirety of the Nocturnus into the Twilight Cage. 4: Many different ancient areas in the Sonic world have bird like monuments, many of which could be the Babylonians themselves but others show a 4 legged eagle / Griffin like creature that doesn't resemble them whatsoever outside of both being "birds". If we say that the Babylons existed during the reign of the Nocturnus then it’s likely that they wouldn't take too kindly to Ix trying to concur them. They may be strong with their advanced technology but Ix had the Chaos Emeralds, a huge army of Gizoids, and the ultimate Gizoid Emerl on his side as well as possibly the Phantom Ruby so there aren’t too many things that could bring him down. With their advanced technology they may be able to call on their god to give them a helping hand as a last resort, knowing that they stood no chance in a war with their small numbers. Argus could be the the god of the Babylonians who takes the form of a Griffin to communicate with them as it is still bird like but different enough to distinguish, similar to how in the real world gods sometimes come as humans with animal faces or whatever. If Argus came down to stop the Nocturnus, maybe he saw how chaotic this world was and periodically comes down to stop any out of control chaos. We already have the God of Destruction in Chaos so maybe he could be a sort of counterpart like a God of Life of a God of Order. Maybe he gave the ancient monks mentioned in 06 the Sceptre of Darkness that helped take down Solaris who was an out of control god, Soleana does have the Eagle as their national symbol and nearby is where we see the statues of the 4 legged eagle. If we really run with this then Sonic was born to completely unknown means somewhere on Christmas Island which is a place shrouded in mystery and is described as "a strange world different from our world" by the developers. He is way more powerful than he has any right to be, seriously, he is able to match blows with the Ultimate Lifeform and beat an ancient guardian empowered by the most powerful gem on the planet. He is a chosen one written about in legend and has single handedly saved the world hundreds of times over. My theory is that after seeing how chaotic Earth is, Argus either decided to create a mortal with a fraction of his power or possibly even reincarnate himself as a mortal to work on keeping the peace in the physical world more effectively then he could by simply banishing people he deemed a threat.
I kinda had the same theory about this, just not from the same sources, and i never heard of the Chaos Factor. However, my main thought was based on a line of Sonic X, saying that during the ARK attack, not one, but two capsuled were launched. I know this is not canon material, but it made me think that it could have been Sonic. Else this, or Eggman (or maybe the GUN actually) could have remake the Shadow Project for their own reasons. I think the problem of the origin of Sonic has to be linked to the lack of Eggman's origin. They fight against each other for long, but they can work together without real troubles, and in every sources they appear, they always have some kind of respect to the other, as if they use to be close. That could make a good story for a game, a prequel actually, but so far, your theeory is good, but the sources used are a bit... streched? is that the word? (sorry, i'm not a antive english speaker :p). But yeah, it's a good theory, there is obviously a link between Sonic and Shadow that we don't know yet (and probably one with Silver, well, could have at least.
Vanguard Chicken I always assumed that second capsule was Emerl because we find out in Sonic Battle that Gerald worked on him as well. Regarding Silver’s connection, I still hold to the idea that he’s a descendant of Shadow. I know Iizuka “confirmed” that he wasn’t, but he also said that the moon is just on it’s good side whenever we see it even through that’s definitely not how that works, and that we wouldn’t see classic Sonic again after Generations. It’s kinda hard to take anything he says at face value anymore.
@@thesilverace01 To be honest, the whole story of those games is not working together in the details, maybe the lack of a fixed story team is because of it, but everything could take a sense if the events of generations altered the time stream more. And i also agree on the connection between Shadow and Silver. And yeah, Lizuka isn't the best to talk about this usually, even in game making :p. (i hope i'm not pushing :p).
@Vanguard Chicken Hopefully with the Sonic Movie that is coming in 2020, maybe it may answer some questions to where Sonic got his speed. After all, it's stated to be a prequel to the games and in the 2nd trailer, Sonic himself says that in his world, there are people who are after his speed powers. So this movie may seem interesting on how they handle Sonic's origins.
You should make a theory about classic sonic. In generations, he was Sonic’s past self but suddenly in Forces he’s another dimension version of sonic. Is this a retcon or is there an actual explanation? And if it is a retcon, what changes does it have on the timeline?
@@playerback7722 Yeah, that might be true. They kind of take some pages of DBZ(like super states, Silver's story to travel to the past to change his future like Trunks, etc.), so classic timeline could now be like the Trunks' timeline, which is an alternate future, but the classic timeline being alternate past.(in this sense, it is a different reality.)
It's not a retcon, it just goes off the theory that if you change the future or past you actually just create a new timeline, the original future or past will still exist, you simply create an alternate reality, so when classic Sonic returned to the past it created a new alternate reality, while the original past remains as it was, which is why modern Sonic is no way affected by the events, he doesn't gain new memories or anything
I think Shadow told Sonic that he is likely instead the true Ultimate Lifeform as a recognition of his amazing abilities and strength and as a way to finally admit that perhaps another being could surpass himself despite his own origins, especially since Sonic told Shadow during one of their earlier confrontations that he shouldn’t understatement him for seeming regular (but I think this was in Sonic X).
Sonic is most likely a force of nature. He was always like that, defending Green Hills from an industrial 'bad future' and after that the entire world. Nature always makes its will prevail through Sonic. Shadow might be his equivalent opposite to be able to stop him and put him in the right course. That's possibly the simplest answer.
That line Shadow said in sa2 always got to me for some reason. I actually only found out about it when I went back to play the game again and purposely was trying to see if they would say anything different as time progressed in the final battle. It shocked me and I remember not hearing shadow say that before when I first finished the game, so I figured it was time based. An awesome fact to mention was when Sonic faced off with infinite a second time in forces- He states that he "becomes more powerful every second." A lot of research I've seen actually points to this statement as possible truth. I also saw where he has a possible sense ability much like Spiderman. It's in a video that shows he sneezes before danger confronts him. I always thought he was just rubbing his nose all the time because it was a taunt or something to his enemies, but turns out he probably sneezed before trouble reared its head. I think the video is called sonics hidden ability. You can actually see what looks like sonic sneezing in a cutscene from the opening of sonic CD, its when he stops running to look up in the sky, but it's a split second and is easily overlooked. Also I have seen theories where shadow looks like sonic due to him being designed after ancient images of super sonic on ruin walls. I think it would make sense because shadow's quills are pointed upward and sonic's quills do the same when he transforms into super sonic. That would explain why "the ultimate life form" was designed by black doom and gerald to look like a hedgehog and not some kind of lizard/ black arms alien thing. In this videos theory though it looks like sonic might actually be designed after shadow's image. Looks like it could go either way. Also notable I found it interesting how all the characters learn abilities from one another. For example Amy became faster following after sonic. Sonic learned chaos control watching shadow use it. Tails taught sonic to spindash. I honestly wonder if shadow learned how to transform into super form by copying sonic. Now hear me out this is just my theory but shadow taught sonic how to use chaos control to teleport. Sonic had used the chaos emeralds in the past before to super transform before learning chaos control from shadow. So in a way I feel like he taught shadow how to tranform using the emeralds. I always thought the characters learning different powers from one another was a cool concept imo. Another thing that gets to me is Sonic's dark spine form where it actually looks like he is wearing something similar to Shadows inhibitor rings... The mystery continues.💫
The 'Chaos Factor' is actually a common power in Comics and a few games. I forget what the power is called so I'm going to be reffering to it as 'Unaware Odds Manipulation" or UOM for short. There is a hero in the Marvel Universe that has this power but it's only affective so long as they remain oblivious to them even having this power. Big Boss (Naked Snake) (and I aswell as several others think that only Solid Snake [David] inherited it from B.B while Liquid and Solidus did not) from the Metal Gear series is also thought to possess this power, as there are MANY times the odds were so stacked against him yet he pulls off a win.(or in some cases pulls off completly impossible stunts, like lifting The Cocoon, a several hundred ton tank with hydraulics trying to crush him, he Shoulder Presses that like A BOSS...Pun intended) So I think you may be onto something with Sonic and 'Chaos Factor' if it actually works like UOM that would explain the no win scenarios Sonic finds himself in and still pulling off a win.
I feel like every time he gets a new ability it's like this also, for example I think the insta shield in sonic 3 and knuckles came from him turning super sonic in the previous game and he learned how to temporarily become invincible in base form, and I feel like his homing attack in sonic adventure came from hyper sonic, which is able to dash in any direction in midair in sonic 3 and knuckles.
Sonic power comes from his years and years of collecting rings and exposure from chaos energy unlike Shadow who during his first appearance was fresh. I do love the theory though and it lines up with the Star Wars references
My theory of how tails can fly is that he shoves a massive tail wing made of glass in his rear to give him more stable flight. Since its fully transparent you cannot see it move due tails his flight always being viewed from the side
Lol as far as Tails goes, taking down any of the other characters head-on is out of the question due to the simple fact that he is half their age. Probably the highest potential, but realistically...just not there yet
Agreed. I bet he would've blown us all away at some point if we continued to have the same writers from the past. Now we've got meme station over here writing stuff for the games and making Tails turn into a completely different character.
I believe Shadow could have also been also apart of the chaos factor like Sonic although he wasn’t created by it Shadow is a mix of Black Doom and The Chaos factor that seems to like given birth to Hedgehogs Sonic and Shadow are 2 Seprate pieces of unlocking the True Ultimate Lifeform which is Shadic I believe that the Symbols in Sonic 3 and Knuckles is Shadic that would explain there equal Power and desires to collect the Chaos Emeralds. Sonic is the Natural piece of the Ultimate lifeform created by the chaos force. And Shadow is the Artifical Piece of the Ultimate lifeform
The idea of Sonic having a sort of connection to the Chaos Force, or at least something similar, kinda inadvertently means that it was kinda prophesied that Shadow would end up throwing things out of whack, given how Sonic shows up in murals. I mean, it seems to me that Shadow might have been based on the murals in question, in-universe. Which means that Sonic's existence was also prophesied, in-universe. Which kinda makes me think that the prophesy is self-fulfilling. Also, confusing. I hope this doesn't cause anyone to start thinking in circles...
This theory honestly feels like a concept that would be considered by the writers at Sonic Team if an “Adventure 3” was still in the cards. Not bad imo.
I can't remember the source so take this with a grain of salt, but if I recall there is some potential in a Sega confirmation that shadows design was inspired by the image of super/hyper sonic from the echidna mural lore wise. If that was the case, and factoring in black Doom and his seemingly inherent connection to the chaos emeralds as well (immortal lifeform is his self proclaimed title) then Gerald when engineering shadow most likely drew from the mural itself as a blueprint for shadows overall physical design, and relied on doom and his blood to imbue this connection to chaos control into shadow. Sonic is not necessarily the chaos forces response to shadows Impending creation because the hedgehogs in this case are actually derivative of each other, the essential mirror trope of fiction of a classic yin yang and I'll elaborate more on this in a moment. Shadow as we know him exists because of Sonic's prophecy. He is the artificial life form, not a natural cause of the force for that title would belong to another being. Black Doom What I find interesting is that shadow is an extension of Doom, and if we look to explain the nature of beings "born" with chaos control then doom and sonic fulfil two halves of that energies own nature. That being positive and negative energy. Shadows role as an anti hero and artificial, independent creature allows him to defy the convention of his "father" doom as the "evil" or negative representative. So perhaps sonic was born to serve as a natural focal point of the positive side of the chaos force and doom was the negative focal point. After all doom was born way before sonic, and Sonic's overall life span places him in line with the impending invasion and coming of Doom. Had Shadow not been the main protagonist of his own game, sonic would have been the only other one with the potential to stop doom. Shadow now serves to hold his father's place in this spectrum embodying the negative or "dark side" of the chaos force but, his grey morality allows him to forgo the role of villain however and be whatever he wants to be hence his role as the anti hero.
That's an interesting point that sonic might not know about where his own powers come from. I agree that him being that good of a guy protecting him. No I think that point of him being a servant potentially of the caoas emeralds themselves could be a reasonable point. They do seem to like him and he seems to be were ever they get involved and he usually ends up in a way rescuing them from robotnick almost more then animals. hun...Anyway, I saw a fan comic play around with the idea of sonic being bound the the emeralds kind of like knuckles is to the master emerald. Granted he dies literally in that time line but still an interesting point. He has all kinds of weird things connected to the emeralds. In sonic x he was able to send them away. He has also been show to bring them too him in a sense almost at will. He was the first to go super with them so there's something to be said for that. Have we seen a moment where someone goes super with out sonic present to start the process? Think about it he seems to almost spread it to the other characters or show them how to do it? Even shadow didn't do it before meting sonic. I think that says a lot. He does seem to be able to channel them. Many would argue that shadow is better at caos control then sonic. I would ague that sonic has the better channeling ability just not as much control. You could say that while shadow uses it sonic feels it. There is also this sense of a little bit of caos in every living creature and some creatures in sonics world just having more of a affinity for it then others. I just realized silver did it once with out sonic present but he saw sonic do it first so there is an argument for that too. Luck, you could say, is a power too.
I think this is a super cool theory I don't know anything about any of the comic Canon or any of that stuff I don't care about any of that but all I know is it's a really really cool idea
And NOW, Sonic is the key to unlocking Cyberspace, and he can freely move in and out of it without effect, PLUS being able to take on more of the cyber corruption than anyone should be able to, and being able to push himself forward even while being roboticized from the inside out. What the heck IS Sonic??? (And also, if Shadow really is the Ultimate Lifeform, how is Sonic able to kick his ass every time?)
I see it as this (Game Only) Shiro Maekawa wrote SA2 with an underlying plot and deeper meaning. What underlying plot? To show Sonic as ‘THE Ultimate Lifeform’. Ignore everything past SA2 since SEGA decided canon should not exist. So how do we come to this conclusion? Well remember professor Geralds research on Angel Island and the mystic ruins? Yes and on angel island there is very special and important ancient stuff. Most remember the mural, but that alone is not all. Sonic also has 1 to 1 statues of himself that may be over hundreds of years old. Also it’s safe to say due to how much he was worshipped in those times, he was also wrote about. This is how Gerald knew what to do with shadow to try to make him as close as possible to the original. Of course he ran into difficulties and had to rely on other methods to try and make him close to Sonics level. Evidence of this is shadows Hover Shoes to skate at really high speeds rivaling sonic. Gerald also could not figure out a way for shadow to contain his chaos energy, so he gave inhibitor rings that stop most of his chaos energy from burning away uncontrollably unless he decides to take him off which puts him at risk to die from a loss of energy. Sonic don’t need these things because he is the original thing. So yes Sonic is the true real ‘Ultimate Lifeform’. Also sonic has a better connection to chaos energy then shadow (Likely a Spiritual connection), this allows sonic to use a phony emerald to chaos control, something shadow said that should be impossible, seemingly implying that is something he unable to do. In SA2 the final hazard battle you hear shadow say that sonic might be the ultimate lifeform. I see it as shadow finally figured it out (similar looks, similar powers, sonic was able to beat him in their last fight before going and teaming up to save the world, and sonic is doing things that should be impossible), he finally put it all together and knowing what he was created after because of the professors journals, he sees that he is fighting along the legend himself. Shadow Will always be the Copy and the copy will never be as good as the original. Of course this was mostly forgotten but I will say look at SA2 real lore, you really see a true canon and meaning being developed. So shadow came back after due to popularity and was absolutely destroyed, making shadow one of the most misrepresented and worst characters in the franchise. Maybe SEGA knew the real meaning still and had sonic beating shadow all the time, pissing shadow off that he is supposed to be the real Ultimate Lifeform even though he is a fake. Of course this is an ego problem with shadow and I wish he and sonic were to be friends in the games, even if shadow would never admit such a thing. If I could rewrite shadow 05, I would make it so much more showing of shadows 3d character. Shadow is not a anti-hero, he is a real hero fighting alongside Sonics friends and would willingly help them with nothing in return, sonic will have that influence on you and shadow should be shown with that influence such as the Archie comics and sonic 06 to an extent.
It would explain why Sonic is getting more and more powerful as the games go on. Dark Sonic (Sonic X) is probably also related to this. (Metal Virus saga in IDW also shows some clues.) Sega/Sonic Team probably won't do much with this or answer if this theory is true, but it does give merit to some plot points and could be used for a good fan fiction. Maybe he starts to lose control of his powers and it signals the time for his destiny to be fulfilled? Dark Sonic could also play a part in this. Though, based off what you just said, I feel Unleashed or 06 is the true ending to that plotline. It just makes since and works well. Regarding Tails, I believe he's very special compared to the rest of the cast. ( Maybe not in the way Archie comics did him., but he may also have a destiny to fulfill. Eggman, Knuckles, Blaze, and Amy too. Every character actually could have their powers for a specific moment. One where the 'Ultimate Lifeform' will require their help to end... whatever the destiny of his is. Good video dude. I hope to see more Sonic theory videos from you.
funnily enough, forces of all games actually referenced it right after thenfirst infinite fight. "unlike mechs, I can grow. I get more powerful every second"
Of Sonic being the últimate life form, it's the most coherent. There are several characters aside Shadow are labeled as it, like Emerl(whose body loosely resemblance sonic ), but all share 2 trait ,they were designed, they are artificial there was a external source that granted these capabilities. But we're these sciencist get the idea of a ultimate lifeform, and growth obsessed with replicate and improve it. And there enter the murals on angel island were Sonic appears as one of 2 being fighting for a source of power, and there should be more data of this like in the were they find the Gizoid, there is Implied they try to replicate something. So Sonic is a natural ultimate life form. Funnily this could imply Eggman himself is a being that can rival this being in some way, and his the main reason Sonic his force to his full potential. Plus he created Metal Sonic from scratch, and at least Neo Metal can be considered a últimate lifeform. The second trait they share It's all of them can loss control, and autodestruct with everything around them. They lack something that stabilize their power, only Shadow archive to obtain it as he don't need his inhibitors anymore.
Sonic is simply an embodiment of chaos. This comes to him naturally, while shadow has this form factor artificially. Sonic is able to achieve things he shouldn’t, yet he does. Why?...Because of his SPIRIT and will power. Yes he’s fast, yes he’s physically strong and durable, and yes he’s way past cool. Although all these things are true, his real super power comes from within, That’s why he’s able to control and harness chaos energy so very well. I like to think of him as someone who is GREATER than himself, unknowingly....that just so happens to be fast lol ....At least that’s how it used to be in older installments, Sonic is a cocky bastard in newer games and I hate it.🤦🏽♂️
Agreed. That's what drew me to the character to begin with. With the new games shifting his personality to be more cocky (and IMO a complainer) I just can't get into it. Aside from Mania, I haven't played a new game since the Black Knight.
I thought gerald created the ultimate life form after he had sutdied chaos and he came up with that the ultimate life form must be a hedgehog not a liquid chaos or a lizard to be able to use chaos powers so shadow is created as sonic because the ultimate life form is a hedgehog which is capable of reaching the speed of light and use chaos powers
Maybe the reason why sonic didn’t turn (as) evil, is probably because sonic had a little spark in him that let him have control maybe.🤔 I’m not sure...
Sonic winning all the time can just be PIS or just a hax ability he has, but I do believe he has some connection to some kind of force he can tap into.
My theory is that sonic truly IS the ultimate life form, and shadow is the “faker” that was supposed to be the ultimate life form. as shadow has the whole amnesia thing he must forget about what he said to sonic.
@@thesilverace01 no, I am referring to sonic invisible shield. Eggman state that the reason why sonic keeps on winning is because he gain the chaos force by collecting over 1 billion rings. Meaning he wasn't born with the chaos force.
The is streching real far but I'll give my opinion on points in the video as well as add my own theory to this to see what you all think. First off is a very minor kitpick but the Chaos force/factor, I believe its called Chaos energy since in the games anyone can use the Chaos emeralds regardless of any connection to them unlike in the comics where only a few characters can use them. Secondly emerl and the world rings I believe that sonic is very unpredictable and can adapt against his enemies like eggman which explains why sonic is able to beat emerl because emerl couldn't predict Sonic's attacks. When it comes to enrazer dinn he might have been unable to control the world rings power so they left him and attached themselves to sonic(similar to your theory of being because of his connection to Chaos energy/ Chaos force) Thirdly sonic has been know to have strong willpower as he never gives up on himself and always finds a way to win,this would explain why sonic is resistant to dark Gaia's energy as sonic didn't give up on himself (or get corupted by it like in the comics) I remember the comics saying that sonic is a embodiment of chaos which is why he can use chaos energy(this is one of the only elements I use from the comics as it doesn't contradict the game's canon similar to the time sonic gave his chaos energy to Megaman like he did to shadow and silver in sonic 06 and tails and knuckles in sonic heroes) All right theory time: So I believe that sonic was created with a connection to Chaos energy and in turn the chaos emeralds because of Sonic's father(which is a low possibility because we haven't seen him yet) or(like you said) by the chaos emeralds, most likely by the creators of the chaos emeralds themselves to protect the world from evil or if dark Gaia wakens again,(yes I believe that the chaos emeralds were created to stop dark Gaia because there is a slot for them inside the Gaia temples and why sonic can defeat him) it's possible that there were other embodiments of chaos before sonic and he's their descendent. This would also explain his unpredictability and adaptability in battle as Eggman,metal sonic,emerl and even shadow who was created with chaos energy by Gerald Robotnik can't beat him. This explains why sonic was on the enigna statues and mulal on angel Island as they predicted a descendant of the embodiment of chaos to arrive and save them from the giant(which was Eggman) and was probably destinied to fight Chaos and stop his rampage. Through his speed might be because of his father and not the chaos emeralds as I have a theory that Sonic's father was the fastest thing alive before sonic. (Sorry about spelling errors, it wouldn't autocorrect words properly so I made with what I have)
In Sonic X, the 2nd awakened clone of shadow whooped Sonic's ass immediately after whooping Knuckles' ass. In Shadow the Hedgehog, of course he whooped Sonic's ass, it's his fucking video game. I've always taught about it as this. Shadow's stronger than Sonic, but Sonic can level up more, if that makes any sense. He has fire sonic, dark sonic, super sonic, hyper sonic, fire sonic (though I don't believe fire sonic is canon) while we've only seen shadow and silver in their super forms. And if you take dark sonic into consideration, it's litwrally just sonic, but getting angry and letting go. So idk.
@@DeathPoker1 Shadow wasn't actually stronger than Sonic in Sonic X. In Sonic X Sonic and Shadow only fought 5 times. In their first encounter, no one actually won in that fight because the police showed up and Shadow decided to flee the scene with the Chaos Emerald he had. But if that fight was to keep on going than Sonic would probably have lost due to the fact that Shadow had an external advantage in that fight which was the chaos emerald he had, which doesn't make him more stronger in essence than Sonic. In their second encounter on prison island Sonic fought Shadow to a stand still, but both had to retreat as the island was going to soon detonate. In their third encounter in Space colony ARK, Both fought each other to a standstill again but Shadow retreated because he didn't see the need to keep on fighting Sonic when he thought he had completed his goal of fulfilling Dr Gerald's plan of world destruction. In their fourth encounter in space, Sonic and Shadow were in their Super-form's and both fought each other to a stand still but both had to stop fighting and retreat again because the Metarex base near them had collapsed into a black hole. In there fifth encounter when Shadow broke into Tail's Space Ship, Sonic had to take a chaos spear attack for Chris, saving his life but the attack made Sonic to weak to stop Shadow, so Shadow was able to take him out. Sonic could've stopped Shadow but couldn't in that situation because he was protecting Chris's life with his life. So that scene doesn't prove that Shadow is more powerful than Sonic. But no matter what happened in Sonic X, I don't think its relevant because its not canon. The Comics aren't canon as well. In Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic has proven to outlast Shadow in a battle. At the end of the final battle Super Shadow couldn't maintain his super form(probably due to inexperience as this was the first time he went Super with the chaos emeralds) and fell back down to the earth, he was suppose to die after that but Sega brought him back in the games due to the fans popular demand. I believe that Sonic and Shadow are both equal in power, Shadow was a character that was made to be the exact opposite of Sonic, thus why he is named "Shadow" the hedgehog because he is the exact opposite of Sonic; character, behavior and personality wise. It also seems that Sonic is one of the only characters strong enough to counter Shadow.
9:00 this is called "Quantumn Invincibility", when no matter the situation, the outcome will always be you winning or surviving somehow, even if neither you nor your foes know about that.
I'm all for this theory entirely and also tails can fly because I've always believed his tails might be robotic in some ways (Sorta like a cyborg maybe) and the reason he gets "tired out" is actually because the tails are overheating so he has to land so they may cooldown
Shadow couldve been created after the ancient Echidnas' Super Sonic prophecy, which would explain his spine shape and being built to handle Chaos energy. So he was modeled after Sonic before Sonic was even born, which is why they're so similar.
In Hydrocity zone from Sonic 3 & Knuckles, there are stone statues that resemble Sonic in the background for Act 1. And we can't forget the mural in Hidden Palace zone.
He even has red eyes like super sonic has since dreamcast, and the boots emulates super sonic fly
With that theory we can also guess that biolizard was created based on perfect chaos, i think that they have the same screaming sound
That theory isnt only more simple, but doesnt need comics and only the games, which are the ones that people normally thinks of when trying to make theories, also makes the pieces go together, sonic is a legend, shadow is a clone of him, they are 2 ways to tell the legend, the original one and the copy, the light and the shadow, they are the same but they are different, cool
@@axl256gamesx7 he has the same eye shape as Super Sonic too, there was the artificial Chaos, the Snake head like Mystic Ruin, them from later games Gerald found the Gizoids the Nocturnus Echidnas made, it only makes sense that Gerald saw the mural of Super Sonic and based Shadow on that.
Even during the final fight in SA2, when Shadow is getting tired but Sonic isn't, Shadow says "I think I found out what the Ultimate Lifeform is, it might be you!"
Okay, it kinda makes sense that Sonic was born from the chaos force. It explains his insane speed and how he can utilize the chaos emeralds. But I don't think he's "the chosen one". Instead, I actually think he's the guardian of the chaos emeralds.
I mean, since the very first game he's been collecting the Chaos Emeralds and he used them to stop baddies when he needed to, and it would explain the mural in the Hidden Palace.
There's also the fact (at least I think so anyways) that Sonic's dimension is an alternate version of Blaze's dimension. Blaze is the guardian of the Sol emeralds of her dimension, so wouldn't it make sense Sonic would be the guardian of his dimension's emeralds? But unlike Blaze, he doesn't actually know he is the guardian of the Emeralds, Sonic is just trying to do the right thing but he's naturally attracted to the Emeralds because he is connected to them as their guardian.
He is also the one person that manages to "reactivate" the emeralds when they're out of juice like in Adventure 1 and Unleashed. And although it's not canon, he manages to transform the Chaos Emeralds into the super emeralds in Sonic 3 and Knuckles. I feel like that feat alone seals the deal.
I hope this is true. Even if it isn't, I'm definitely making it my personal headcanon.
Also, great video!
Great theory on Sonic, I wish they would give him his hyper form back better than ever. Also sonic so get sum new powers too, something that rival Shadow powers. That give him big powerup and also I will be if his close hand to hand combat abilities tho. He should pull sum punches more often, I know he's a kicker fighting style, but he should definitely should do sum punches more often tho.
Him being a guardian would explain shadow's likeness to sonic. The mural depicting sonic would prophesied a guardian of the chaos emeralds and the only people who would know about it were the ancient echidna including tikal. Which would mean doctor gerald would have found the needed information to creating the perfect ultimate lifeform who would have complete control of chaos because at first he thought it was a giant lizard (which kind of looks like chaos I guess). Sonic being a guardian would also give him a connection to Chaos as many fans connected already with the eyes being green.
But isn't knuckles the chosen guardian of the chaos emeralds?
@@emceemunchapussy1891 As far as I know, he's just the guardian of the Master Emerald alone, not the chaos emeralds
Yeah I agree!
It probably means nothing that Blaze's shoes look like Sonic's it's a small detail but like you said his dimension is an alternate of hers, so he's her but in his dimension (yeah my theory is based on there shoes idk) and that time in rush they worked so well together
It’s crazy how Gerald rebotnik created shadow to be the ultimate life form just for it to be born naturally
Maybe that's another reason Eggman hates Sonic so much.
Shadow is actually the strongest sonic character shadow can boost up his power like chaos boost aka dark shadow and hero shadow and before you say, the transformation is actually a power up.
yea well both of em are the ultemate lifeform
@@alvinroy9947sonic>>shadow
@@Archie.Phantomthey're equal when it comes to their base forms.
I once had an idea that Sonic And Shadow are actually two halves of what once was the true ultimate life form. And the Mephiles and Iblis thing was supposed to mirror this. Probably not true, but just an idea.
Thegalactiknight That actually sounds pretty cool, and would also explain why both can be kinda one dimensional but in different ways. Only problem would be that they would have to be split at some point either on the ark or after Shadow was ejected, but I’m sure it could be made to work.
What about sleekdom
So the true ultamite life form is shadic?
@@Keegstar yep sounds good to me
@@Keegstar lmao
I believe that when Shadow tells Sonic that he may be the Ulitmate Lifeform, he's referring to the fact that Shadow is based off of Super Sonic. (This is why he only mentions it when they are in their Super-Forms.)
In Sonic Unleashed, there’s another example of the Chaos Factor: after the werehog is launched into space, he’s save by s green orb that breaks his fall. Now you say that’s Chip/Light Gaia, but that’s never confirmed in the game.
But at the end of the game, we see chip create a green orb around sonic and send him back to the surface which confirms that chip created the orb to protect sonic before he lost his memory at the beginning of the game.
@@charliemulcahy6314 Yeah I just realized my mistake. But it still could be the Chaos Factor. It just so happened that Sonic was falling where Chip was reawakened and that Chip caught Sonic in time before he hit the ground.
I mean would it have mattered from my knowledge Sonic doesn't get any Fall Damage so he would've been A OK
But that’s also just called plot armor there wouldn’t be able to be a game if they just said “welp sonic can’t beat this guy game over you can no longer play” I think it’s just plot convenience so they can yknow... make more games
@@charliemulcahy6314 And what can you say to the fact that when they first landed, Chip was unconscious, and when he woke up he could not even remember his name, not to mention his abilities.
I remember Eggman also claiming that Sonic was an embodiment of Chaos. (I think it was around the time he lost his mind in the Archie Comics)
I always figured he had some special connection to chaos energy. He’s basically the only being who has a totally natural affluence to using the emeralds without any training or condition outside of himself.
Aaaaaaand, because that has been my though, I never really questioned the powers movie Sonic has. I chalk it up to a more apparent showcasing of his “chaos factor.” It feels like the director is very familiar with Sonic lore and I even got Archie Comic vibes from the movie. If that was the movie’s intent, then I’m excited for this side of Sonic to be more explored.
Sonic is not alone, Shadow and Silver has connection to the chaos emeralds
@@kris1349 They also happen to be hedgehogs as well. Maybe it's some secret ability the species has
@@rhyno39 / Is true, they say that hedgehogs have more facilities in transforming themselves into super form, they have a stronger connection with the chaos emeralds
@@rhyno39 Well tbh it shouldn't be a species specific thing to use the Chaos Energy. I think it severely limits tge usage of its utility. "Need a character that can use chaos energy? Just add another hedgehog!" It should be for anyone who has an inherent connection to Chaos Energy. Hedgehog or not.
In terms of the gaming lore, the only main non robotic characters that have explanations for their use of the "Chaos Force" is Sonic, Knuckles and Shadow. Anyone else is just for gameplay like Tails for example. Why does he have a super form?(I rather call it a Chaos Form). Oh its because Sonic can do it and we need the player to feel accomplished when they play as Tails. Thats it. Silver doesnt really have a decent explanation either when I think about it lol.
They really need to expand on the "Chaos Force" in this series its real intresting to me. What if they take the route that Chaos is *literally* Chaos (as in disorder). The goal of mastery is to tame chaos (Chaos Control wink wink) and tame it to the point were its more reliable to use. It becomes Stable Chaos. Fleetway Super Sonic had that similar idea going on taking a literal interpretation of Chaos Energy.
@@justcallmekai1554 ooooooo, going baack to a 9 month old comment is interesting.
You are right tho. I have thought about it more since then and it doesn't seem to be just a species thing (or at least i don't want it to be) as knuckles can utilize the chaos force to an extent.
A different theory I have is that everyone can make use it but some are much better at utilizing it than others. This imo, means that if a species has been able to access and control the chaos force, it gets passed down in their genetics. Hedgehogs already seem to be quite fluent in those abilities for some mysterious reason, and echidnas have been around the chaos emeralds for a long while. A fox like Tails however hasn't had much experience with chaos energy, nor (I'm assuming) his ancestors.
I also agree on building the "Chaos lore" because chaos energy seems to be able to do everything for anything and I need answers as to why XD. Your version of it is probably my favorite :)
My theory is somewhat similar.
Sonic always was able to have that speed of his, however it wasn't what it is now.
Sonic also didn't have a connection to Chaos energy to start with, but using so many Power Rings and collecting 6 of the 7 Emeralds did something to him.
He eventually collected all 7 Chaos Emeralds, but to no avail. When the Death Egg exploded, that when the Emeralds reacted to Sonic's "Wish" which turned him into his Super State for the first time. It also gave him a minor connection to the Chaos Force, which boosted his speed when he reverted to his regular self.
Also taken from the Archie Comics, every time Sonic depowers from his Super State, he's always just a little bit stronger. This resulted in his fur changing a darker blue every time, and his speed was getting cranked up.
When he went into his Hyper form, the Chaos Emeralds didn't go back to how they were. Instead, Sonic was hit with such a MASSIVE amount of Chaos Energy that resulted in his eyes turning a similar shade of green as the Master Emerald, and now Sonic has a decent connection to the Chaos Force. Not as strong as say, Knuckles or Shadow, but a connection nonetheless. However, his Hyper form could no longer be used when that happened.
After defeating Chaos proper, Sonic could start reaching speeds of up to Mach 10 on his own accord.
After defeating Solaris however, Sonic's power shot through the roof as he can now expel Chaos Energy as he's running full tilt, allowing him to breeze through enemies.
Least, that's my theory
Jokerson Mach 10? Sonic can go faster than light speed
@@raveolygaming6781 right under that I state Sonic's power shot through the roof after beating Solaris. That would Also include his speed, hardiness, stamina...just about everything.
I wonder if In the Archie sonic went super enough times he’d turn black
Jokerson but sonic was ftl before beating Solaris
Also I think that as he had so much master emerald energy, as his eyes turned green, Sonic's power might have bounced back onto Tails and Knuckles which turned there eyes blue (Sonic's colour) as a result of him being with them 24/7.
Something interesting that could make an interesting connection between Sonic and Shadow is that the Biolizard in Sa2 has a modified combination of both Sonic's and Shadow's Jp voice actors. And its Roars are basically slowed down screams of each actor. (I heard about this from Ruby of Blue's video on Sa2's Story being the best)
Mario Spivey The plot thickens...
ALSO the paper Rouge shows shadow details that the bio lizard has an organ that lets it use chaos control there could be some connection there as to how characters like shadow can use chaos control without an emerald.
@@Specialzone5 The Biolizard also had an external cybernetic connected to that organ. That device could have stored the chaos energy the Biolizard used to perform chaos control. Shadow doesn't have that attachment so it's still up to debate if he can do chaos control(teleportation and stopping time) without a chaos emerald.
i don't know why, but the phrase "slowed down screams" is so funny to me.
@@marsgo8938 he can use chaos control, as seen in the dumpster fire that is sonic forces and its shadow dlc.
You know...maybe the Phantom Menace analogy isn't so far off. It's later revealed that the reason the Force created a Chosen One was because the Sith had discovered how to use the Force to manipulate life, and Anakin was the Force basically hitting a panic button. What if Sonic is similar? Gerald Robotnik created Shadow, an artificial being, using the Chaos Force, and having a panic attack, the Chaos Force created Sonic as a reaction to balance things out.
Christopher Byrd Do you know the tragedy of Gerald Robotnik the wise?
@@thesilverace01 I thought not... it's not a legend GUN would tell you...he was a scientist so powerful and so wise, that he could manipulate the Chaos Force to create...life.
Damn that's probably my favourite one
My theory is super basic and not as cool sounding but I'd like to think that certain creatures on Mobius are just born with natural super-powers, it's random kind of like quirks from MHA or something, hence why some characters have power and others don't, but presumably Sonic and his gang wouldn't be the only mobians to have powers like that, they're just the only ones we've seen so far 😊
I think the reason is that he was connected to the chaos force is a good person. If you think about it, we have seen Sonic perform many Noble acts of kindness. Even though this isn't cannon, Sonic possibly could've ran away from Galems beams, but instead he stop to grab picachu or at least tried to. Mind you out everyone else in that scene, Sonic was the only one who looked back to try and save someone. Link didn't tryed save Zelda, Pit and Dark Pit didn't try to save Palutena. Kirby was over here just just flying through the sky, Snake tryed to hide in box and the list goes on and on. The only other person that I saw try to help was Bowser with the Pokemon trainer and Shulk trying to warn everyone of what was coming. So yeah, me personally, I think that Sonic is just a kind person and that he is made using the chaos force which your theory. Plus Sonic has resisted min so control before in Sonic and the dark brotherhood.
In the movie, it was hinted at the Sonic's speed is some manifestation of Chaos Control. It explains why the Echidna kept trying to hunt him down as a child and why a single quill was able to power Robotnik's mechs.
I'd say Sonic is indeed the ultimate life form
Shadow, storywise, was meant to be that, his shadow, a dark reflection of what he is
And plotwise, there's the theory that Shadow was created based in one of the murals like the one from the Hidden Palace showing Hyper Sonic against Eggman
It's likely that Gerald thought the hedgehog prophetised there was the ultimate life form, so he sought to create it himself and in the end we got...well, two "ultimate life form"s which reflect one another
Not to mention he survived the Final Hazard but Shadow doesn't
Shadow could represent the games "Dark sonic." Explaining his stronger grip of chaos energy. While sonic is what shadow was meant to be, a hero of kindness and passion. But with shadows troubled past hes more dark than the original.
Tails is able to fly because he met sonic and some chaos force rubbed off on him,
It explains knuckles's strength aswell
The master emerald chose him. And with that he had his powers chosen.
It makes alot of sense,
It also explains why amy is attached to sonic, she might've felt chaos force rub off on her and wants to be with sonic
As for the chaotix..
They're just highly trained.
Rouge is aswell.
I like to think that sonic is the organic ultimate lifeform and shadow is the artificial ultimate life from
Alright hear me out
But what if JUST what if
Sonic was made onboard the arc aswell?
My reasoning to believe this is due to the fact shadow calls sonic the "Ultimate life form"
Though i dont believe hes part black arm. I think hes part wisp, explaining his speed, his link to chaos force and his natural wisp speed makes sense of why hes able to run faster than an average hedgehog
And it explains his strong connection to the wisps, no one else uses them
So perhaps gerald in his younger days created sonic, with HyperGo-On energy, before sonic was sent into a coma for a while.
Due to the overload in power that could have happened if the black comet had appeared, Once sonic was in the coma gerald teamed up with the black arms and created shadow
Sonic cant get his memories back due to the fact its not just amnesia they were erased. Unlike shadows
My reasoning for his memories being wiped is the chaos force, not wanting sonic to know his own origins.
@@ykgcaramel6515
Indeed
Sonic is the natural embodiment of life, the choosen wielder of the emeralds
Shadow is man's atempt of creating that, the ultimate being, and thanks to Gerald's genius it succeeded
Great theory I have always thought Sonic was the “chosen one” because of just how the stories play out so thank you for confirming my theory as well
After reading the last issues of Sonic IDW that came out, I rewatched this theory about this origin of Sonic's Powers, and for me it seems very possible that Sonic chaos factor not only gave him the ally he needed to stop the Metal virus in the person of Silver, but that this chaos factor could also be the reason why he landed in the sol dimension, right in front of Blaze, the only person able to make him remember the memories he had lost, and send him back home in his dimension. The Chaos factor could not only be the reason why Sonic regained all his memories that easily, but it could also had ensured Sonic's friends victories against the apocalyptic crisis of the metal virus.
Your theory is not silly, everything you said is very interresting and possible :)
I second that...
It does pull from several canons though and that feels flawed as the teams working on each of those media are probably not working off the same plan
Sonic: **has the ultimate lifeform mask on his face**
Eggman: OH SHI-
I reject my humanity, Shadow!
Your theory is indeed ridiculous but that doesn't make it invalid. It's pretty clear that Sonic was intended to be a counterpoint to Shadow in-universe. Have you seen the Game Apologist's video on Hyper Sonic? This theory would certainly explain why Sonic seems to learn better control over the emeralds than anyone else (heck, in SA2 he uses that control over something that's not even an emerald).
The emerald was a fake, it resembles the chaos emeralds, but lacked the whole infinite energy universe warping power.
People bring it up as a plot whole often enough that sonic definitely did not have a good opportunity to learn chaos control and that emerald is a fake and shouldn't give him the power to chaos control.
Which begs the question did sonic always just have that power.
My head canon for Sonics backstory is that he was a second attempt to make shadow but slightly better. An often overlooked fact about project shadow is that it seems to have started with chaos from sa1 as the base. First there was the artificial chaos which were just robot versions of chaos. Next there was the biolizard that is similar to perfect chaos and even makes the same cry as perfect chaos at the beginning of its boss battle. And then there’s shadow who just like chaos can use the chaos emeralds power. At the time of sa2 the only characters who could use the chaos emeralds were sonic, shadow, and chaos. This would be an explanation as to why sonic and shadow have chaos powers as they would have the dna from chaos who himself was a mutated Chao that got turned into a water monster by the chaos emeralds. The idea that sonic was a second shadow also explains why they look so similar and both are conveniently hedgehogs. It’s already speculated that the reason Gerald made shadow a hedgehog was because of the mural so it would also make sense because sonic and shadow would be somewhat related. Sonic could have never been awakened on the ark so that could be why he has no memory. I believe it would go something like this. When Maria launched shadow to earth it also launched a freshly created sonic that had yet to be truly introduced to the world. Once he lands on earth I believe he wouldn’t be found by gun because as far as they are aware they have captured the ultimate life form. Sonic probably awoke some time later but I believe that sonic would be a child. Why? Because at this point in SA2 the classic games were still part of the timeline which they still kind of are but I don’t know what the classic games are considered to be now a days. Any way sonic appears much younger in the classic games so one of the changes made to the shadow 2.0 or sonic is his ability to age. When he awoke he would have been a child and likely would not remember awakening in a crashed escape pod. Then he would go on and eventually start the events of sonic 1. This head canon explains a lot of the dialogue and plot points in sa2 but I don’t think this would be the canon of today. I only believe this was the original way the story was going to go after sa2. Sonic hero’s and onward dropped a lot of plot points that were unfinished in sa2 and even brought shadow back from the dead. Still elements of this could become canon or even the whole this idk. Well I’m tired of writing now it’s been 30 minutes so yeah...
I agree to this that explains why Sonic and Shadow are similar. also like Shadow Sonic was also built to use chaos energy
And that means Sonic and Shadow are brothers
But isn't part of the catch with the ultimate lifeform thing immortality in some way? Like, maybe Sonic stops aging at a certain point and basically has eternal youth?
This whole video is the perfect plot for a sonic adventure 3.
CornSyrup I can dream...
im sure it was going to be if the dreamcast survived but after the dreamcast they just bitching around with sonic and released a bunch of random sonic games like it's mario!
fortunately sonic adventure remake can change it soon
If I’m gonna be completely honest, I’m kind of digging it.
Sonic being the literal “Avatar of Chaos” is exactly the sort of crackpot that I’m into :D
“The fates will convene to ensure your victory” is us haha. As no matter how powerful they get we keep retrying until they lose!!
Personally, I interpreted Shadow's line as just him complimenting Sonic, though this theory is pretty interesting! I always thought it weird that they were said to have similar powers despite their origins having nothing to do with each other.
I've always sorta had this feeling they were building to this conclusion slowly but surely. In Sonic 1, we see (at the end) Sonic restore peace to Green Hills and such after attaining six of the seven emeralds. Sonic 2 has him learn the secrets of the emeralds to channel into a super form. In S3&K, not only is he prophesied in the Hidden Temple or whatever, but he's the key to the Super Emeralds; he basically shows Knuckles something that HE, the guardian of the emerald, never knew about, and opens his gullible heart.
Speaking of opening hearts, in SA1 we see Sonic take on a literal enraged god and purge the hatred from him using the good Chaos energy. SA2 expands upon that as he takes on a man-made Chaos (assuming Gerald got the idea for a giant lizard and a hedgehog from the echidna murals that is) and with the assistance of another super powered ultimate lifeform project, he uses a power he originally attempted with a FAKE emerald to teleport an entire space colony with living beings inside safely to orbit.
Each game he was getting stronger, more in tune with Chaos energy, becoming an ultimate lifeform of sorts... I believe this was the underlying narrative they kept subtly growing under our noses.
Also, Sonic backwards is cinoS, which if you pronounce it with the C like the c in SONIC (something like kin-os), it sounds an awful lot like CHAOS. Maybe.
Probably wrong about a few things. 3AM here, drunk and going on roughly 4 hours of sleep as is, but I saw this video and I had to put my crappy two cents into it. Good video, by the way. Kudos.
Tails being able to fly is just 90s animation magic…
Long story short, Sonic is Flash, Hulk and Domino all in one tiny blue hedgehog.
So Sonic’s greatest power, his Chaos Factor is quite literally the power of Deus Ex Machina
I find it weird how we haven’t had a canon reason why Sonic is fast
I think it was said that hedgehogs inherently have super speed? So that'd mean Sonic was born with it, he just happens to quite possibly be one of (if not, the) fastest of his species.
It's his shoes....I'm not even fucking with you here, it's literally his shoes. At least that's how it was at the start.
He brought up the fleetway comics. The games don't really follow that.
@@ceecee6521
Sonic only has his shoes to be unable to damage anything while running. Tails made them himself.
@@electric_creeper Yeah, looking back, I was a little off there.
This theory actually makes a lot of sense. Rouge said in Sonic Adventure 2 that there were multiple tests in "Project Shadow" and none of them were found. This makes sense if sonic was never in stasis like shadow and just left the crash site. Plus sonic and shadow are both hedgehogs, Professor Gerald was the smartest man on earth and it makes sense he would experiment with hedgehogs, which were a naturally fast animal. Great video!
He's the main character duh, He needs to be the most powerful one
Lol xD
I think when shadow said "there was a protype before this" shadow was the prototype and sonic wasn't and they got mixed up so shadow was said to be the ultimate life form when sonic was all this time
This make sense, Sonic, Shadow and Silver are the only characters who really have a transformation when they are using the super form
@josh chong With "transformation", i mean change of form. Super Knuckles just shines, but the hedgehogs have the all super saiyan thing
7:36 - 8:14
Here I thought you were going to say something along the lines of that Chip was able to sense Sonic's connection with the Chaos Force, and that he knew that this said connection wouldn't let him give into Dark Gaia's Energy, even though the Werehog form is more or less caused by Dark Gaia's Energy. Sonic is too important to the Chaos Force to just be corrupted. That's what Chip meant when he said he was too strong to lose himself. But I guess your explanation works.
This is kinda interesting.
I mean... even taking those comics you used to come up this theory, in those same comics Sonic is born, not created. And in Sonic Chronicles it is said that Super Speed is a natural thing of hedgehogs.
Also, aren’t we going to talk about Tails who battled and defeated Chaos 4 alone? He also helped Sonic to defeat Metal Overlord in Sonic Heroes. And both Burning Blaze and Super Sonic couldn’t defeat the Egg Wizard if it wasn’t for Marine ( a bit stupid though ). And in 06, Sonic was killed by Mephiles.
To me, Sonic is born with that power. His speed may be something rare even among hedgehogs, but that’s natural. Even among humans there are cases of people having some qualities that surpass the overall standard.
Same goes for his skills in using Chaos power. He started using the emeralds since Sonic 2, so he is just more experienced than Shadow and everyone else. Remember that Knuckles knocked the emeralds out of him ( it was explained that Sonic was inexperienced and needed concentration, so his punch broke apart that concentration ). If he was in some way connected in a special way to the Chaos Energy, it would have been natural for him to stay in his Super Form. But it wasn’t at first.
As for the lyrics “You’re losing your speed, you’re losing your flow! But inside me there’s a power you’ll never know”, well. It’s a good theory. But, Dark Gaia’s Power depleted the Chaos Emeralds, meaning that it would have depleted Sonic’s chaos energy if he was the wielder of such power. Even in the end of the Battle, Super Sonic fell unconscious, meaning that Dark Gaia’s energy indeed depletes the Chaos Energy’s Power ( Something that didn’t happen when he was battling her/him in base form ). So, his Werehog form is indeed due to Dark Gaia’s energy. After all, we all saw that it mutates creatures such as the Dark Phoenix and the Dark Moray. Probably what the song was talking about was his Unbreakable Willpower. Sonic already battled the Ifrit. So, it’s only natural.
As for the argument of “who’s stronger between a God Genie and the emotions of a Hedgehog” well, the emotions of course. The 7 World Rings are based on emotions, that’s the whole point. Also, Erazor Djinn had to kill the collector of the 7 rings to become Alf Layla Wa Layla ( 1001 Nights in Arabic ) and rule over the Arabian Nights, but he killed Shara. Not sonic. Hence, the ritual was incomplete and he couldn’t possess all of the World rings by the laws of the creator of the Arabian Nights.
In the end, prodigies exist. Look at Dragon Ball for example. Broly is the legendary Super Saiyan. The strongest of his race and with the most hidden potential. Sonic is probably a prodigy too.
To me, they should introduce his parents or siblings one day, so that they give us some insight in his back story.
though I dont believe sonic is the ultimate lifeform in my opinion he is saying sonic can never truly lose as in it will alwasys be fine in the end
@@tobyra4434 even tho they're many evidence he is lol
I wish they'd reintroduce his siblings they had alot of potential
At this point, Sonic isn’t just a prodigy. He grows stronger at an alarming rate, and the Japanese dialogue for The End heavily implies that Sonic is some embodiment of life which actively defies death on a cosmic scale, which is relatively consistent with how Archie worked and would explain why Sonic can miraculously escape cyber space and tank cyber corruption.
@@RealBroccoliHour
Beware that even in fiction hyperbole, explicit or implicit, is a thing. Sonic was killed in Sonic 06, which remains canon.
Sonic isn’t just a character, he Is the Plot Convenience
Number 1 Piece of Evidence,
Sonic uses chaos control for the First time when he’s in a dire situation in sa2,
He’s being shot out from the arc in a capsule ready to blow
I believe it wasn’t the fake emerald, that high Stakes situation was able to kick in and jump start his hidden chaos energy
Sonic could just be a naturally occurring version of the Ultimate Lifeform.
Actually the hieroglyph in the ruins foretold Sonic's first transformation into Super Sonic to fight Eggman. Gerald Robotnik had studied the ruins and based Shadow off of the hieroglyph as he saw that as the answer to creating the Ultimate Lifeform. Which means that Sonic is not just the Chosen One he inspired the creation of Shadow.
i like the idea that sonic was just chosen by the chaos force or something but i also like the idea that he was influenced by the blue chaos emerald, the emerald of speed
LOL - 3:20 I've always considered Shadows design to be made after the prime species. In essence, Shadow is modeled after Sonic - or rather the species. After all, Sonic gets Shadows abilites organically with time. Or at least that's how it has seemed.
Honestly, at this point, I could subscribe to any of these theories. Sonic being created alongside Shadow on the Ark, Sonic just kinda coming into existence due to the Chaos Force or whatever, Sonic being from an alien species of powerful chaos hedgehogs, all of these sound good to me.
I personally like the idea that Sonic was created on the Ark alongside Shadow, and maybe lived on the Ark for some time with Shadow, but when the attack on the Ark happened, he was also rocketed to Earth, but GUN only ever found Shadow’s capsule, leaving Sonic’s to slowly decay until it shut off entirely, releasing a Sonic who had lost his memories from the fall.
7:51 It wasn’t that he was “such a good guy” but more so about how strong minded he is.
Agreed. That implies he has strength of will.
Why when I read this I immediately remember Exetior. And Sonic, who is so weak that he cannot do anything to stop the demon from destroying his friends and just looks at it all.
Great theory on Sonic, I wish they would give him his hyper form back better than ever. Also sonic so get sum new powers too, something that rival Shadow powers. That give him big powerup and also I will be if his close hand to hand combat abilities tho. He should pull sum punches more often, I know he's a kicker fighting style, but he should definitely should do sum punches more often tho.
umm the song, endless possibility isnt evidence... the verse: just let it out, it's inside you!
That is in fact written because the guitarist and vocalist: Jaret Reddick, was having problems with his family and wife... he meant that he wanted to let out his anger... he slipped it in...
I dig it! But I feel even if this is true, Sega will never admit it as lately they seem afraid to write serious stories
Not anymore. Thank you Frontiers
I always just saw the whole "Sonic is the true Ultimate Life Form" thing as he's a child of proficiency and that Shadow was an imitation of that. If we wanna believe Mural Theory then Shadow was based on the depictions on Angel Island of Super Sonic. This would also explain why Shadows quills look Super Sonics specifically from the Adventure games.
When the Sonic movie came out, I was really hoping they would elaborate on Sonic's origin, but it was just mentioned that he was born with his powers.
i had a very similar theory not too long ago, but instead of being created by the Chaos Force i believe he was created by Argus, or possibly IS Argus. Prepare for a wall of text:
1: 4000 years ago the Chaos event occurred, leaving the world in the hands of the nocturnus clan.
2: The Babylonions were an incredibly advanced alien race that crash landed on earth sometime at least ~1000+ years ago and were worshiped as gods.
3: After taking over most of the world Argus arrived and whisked the entirety of the Nocturnus into the Twilight Cage.
4: Many different ancient areas in the Sonic world have bird like monuments, many of which could be the Babylonians themselves but others show a 4 legged eagle / Griffin like creature that doesn't resemble them whatsoever outside of both being "birds".
If we say that the Babylons existed during the reign of the Nocturnus then it’s likely that they wouldn't take too kindly to Ix trying to concur them. They may be strong with their advanced technology but Ix had the Chaos Emeralds, a huge army of Gizoids, and the ultimate Gizoid Emerl on his side as well as possibly the Phantom Ruby so there aren’t too many things that could bring him down. With their advanced technology they may be able to call on their god to give them a helping hand as a last resort, knowing that they stood no chance in a war with their small numbers. Argus could be the the god of the Babylonians who takes the form of a Griffin to communicate with them as it is still bird like but different enough to distinguish, similar to how in the real world gods sometimes come as humans with animal faces or whatever. If Argus came down to stop the Nocturnus, maybe he saw how chaotic this world was and periodically comes down to stop any out of control chaos. We already have the God of Destruction in Chaos so maybe he could be a sort of counterpart like a God of Life of a God of Order. Maybe he gave the ancient monks mentioned in 06 the Sceptre of Darkness that helped take down Solaris who was an out of control god, Soleana does have the Eagle as their national symbol and nearby is where we see the statues of the 4 legged eagle. If we really run with this then Sonic was born to completely unknown means somewhere on Christmas Island which is a place shrouded in mystery and is described as "a strange world different from our world" by the developers. He is way more powerful than he has any right to be, seriously, he is able to match blows with the Ultimate Lifeform and beat an ancient guardian empowered by the most powerful gem on the planet. He is a chosen one written about in legend and has single handedly saved the world hundreds of times over. My theory is that after seeing how chaotic Earth is, Argus either decided to create a mortal with a fraction of his power or possibly even reincarnate himself as a mortal to work on keeping the peace in the physical world more effectively then he could by simply banishing people he deemed a threat.
That hedgehog got some serious plot armor 🦔 💙
I kinda had the same theory about this, just not from the same sources, and i never heard of the Chaos Factor. However, my main thought was based on a line of Sonic X, saying that during the ARK attack, not one, but two capsuled were launched. I know this is not canon material, but it made me think that it could have been Sonic. Else this, or Eggman (or maybe the GUN actually) could have remake the Shadow Project for their own reasons.
I think the problem of the origin of Sonic has to be linked to the lack of Eggman's origin. They fight against each other for long, but they can work together without real troubles, and in every sources they appear, they always have some kind of respect to the other, as if they use to be close. That could make a good story for a game, a prequel actually, but so far, your theeory is good, but the sources used are a bit... streched? is that the word? (sorry, i'm not a antive english speaker :p). But yeah, it's a good theory, there is obviously a link between Sonic and Shadow that we don't know yet (and probably one with Silver, well, could have at least.
Vanguard Chicken I always assumed that second capsule was Emerl because we find out in Sonic Battle that Gerald worked on him as well. Regarding Silver’s connection, I still hold to the idea that he’s a descendant of Shadow. I know Iizuka “confirmed” that he wasn’t, but he also said that the moon is just on it’s good side whenever we see it even through that’s definitely not how that works, and that we wouldn’t see classic Sonic again after Generations. It’s kinda hard to take anything he says at face value anymore.
@@thesilverace01 To be honest, the whole story of those games is not working together in the details, maybe the lack of a fixed story team is because of it, but everything could take a sense if the events of generations altered the time stream more. And i also agree on the connection between Shadow and Silver. And yeah, Lizuka isn't the best to talk about this usually, even in game making :p. (i hope i'm not pushing :p).
@Vanguard Chicken Hopefully with the Sonic Movie that is coming in 2020, maybe it may answer some questions to where Sonic got his speed. After all, it's stated to be a prequel to the games and in the 2nd trailer, Sonic himself says that in his world, there are people who are after his speed powers.
So this movie may seem interesting on how they handle Sonic's origins.
@@VAAlyChan1 True, but will it be canon, i won't be so sure, but it will be interesting.
@@thesilverace01 that doesn't explain matel sonic
You should make a theory about classic sonic. In generations, he was Sonic’s past self but suddenly in Forces he’s another dimension version of sonic. Is this a retcon or is there an actual explanation? And if it is a retcon, what changes does it have on the timeline?
Thegalactiknight ... Stay tuned ;)
He is a past version turned into an alternative reality version of Sonic
@@playerback7722 Yeah, that might be true. They kind of take some pages of DBZ(like super states, Silver's story to travel to the past to change his future like Trunks, etc.), so classic timeline could now be like the Trunks' timeline, which is an alternate future, but the classic timeline being alternate past.(in this sense, it is a different reality.)
Would alternate timelines not exist in alternate dimensions otherwise there would be a time loop paradox
It's not a retcon, it just goes off the theory that if you change the future or past you actually just create a new timeline, the original future or past will still exist, you simply create an alternate reality, so when classic Sonic returned to the past it created a new alternate reality, while the original past remains as it was, which is why modern Sonic is no way affected by the events, he doesn't gain new memories or anything
This was incredibly interesting, thank you😁
Cell: Hey I thought I was the Ultimate Life Form
Shadow: Fool its obviously me
Kars:Hahah no no I'm the REAL one...
Gohan/Joseph Joestar/Eggman: What?
I think Shadow told Sonic that he is likely instead the true Ultimate Lifeform as a recognition of his amazing abilities and strength and as a way to finally admit that perhaps another being could surpass himself despite his own origins, especially since Sonic told Shadow during one of their earlier confrontations that he shouldn’t understatement him for seeming regular (but I think this was in Sonic X).
Sonic is most likely a force of nature. He was always like that, defending Green Hills from an industrial 'bad future' and after that the entire world.
Nature always makes its will prevail through Sonic.
Shadow might be his equivalent opposite to be able to stop him and put him in the right course. That's possibly the simplest answer.
That line Shadow said in sa2 always got to me for some reason. I actually only found out about it when I went back to play the game again and purposely was trying to see if they would say anything different as time progressed in the final battle. It shocked me and I remember not hearing shadow say that before when I first finished the game, so I figured it was time based. An awesome fact to mention was when Sonic faced off with infinite a second time in forces- He states that he "becomes more powerful every second." A lot of research I've seen actually points to this statement as possible truth. I also saw where he has a possible sense ability much like Spiderman. It's in a video that shows he sneezes before danger confronts him. I always thought he was just rubbing his nose all the time because it was a taunt or something to his enemies, but turns out he probably sneezed before trouble reared its head. I think the video is called sonics hidden ability. You can actually see what looks like sonic sneezing in a cutscene from the opening of sonic CD, its when he stops running to look up in the sky, but it's a split second and is easily overlooked. Also I have seen theories where shadow looks like sonic due to him being designed after ancient images of super sonic on ruin walls. I think it would make sense because shadow's quills are pointed upward and sonic's quills do the same when he transforms into super sonic. That would explain why "the ultimate life form" was designed by black doom and gerald to look like a hedgehog and not some kind of lizard/ black arms alien thing. In this videos theory though it looks like sonic might actually be designed after shadow's image. Looks like it could go either way. Also notable I found it interesting how all the characters learn abilities from one another. For example Amy became faster following after sonic. Sonic learned chaos control watching shadow use it. Tails taught sonic to spindash. I honestly wonder if shadow learned how to transform into super form by copying sonic. Now hear me out this is just my theory but shadow taught sonic how to use chaos control to teleport. Sonic had used the chaos emeralds in the past before to super transform before learning chaos control from shadow. So in a way I feel like he taught shadow how to tranform using the emeralds. I always thought the characters learning different powers from one another was a cool concept imo. Another thing that gets to me is Sonic's dark spine form where it actually looks like he is wearing something similar to Shadows inhibitor rings... The mystery continues.💫
No. Sonic is who he always has been. He was just born with the powers naturally.
Eh
The 'Chaos Factor' is actually a common power in Comics and a few games. I forget what the power is called so I'm going to be reffering to it as 'Unaware Odds Manipulation" or UOM for short. There is a hero in the Marvel Universe that has this power but it's only affective so long as they remain oblivious to them even having this power.
Big Boss (Naked Snake) (and I aswell as several others think that only Solid Snake [David] inherited it from B.B while Liquid and Solidus did not) from the Metal Gear series is also thought to possess this power, as there are MANY times the odds were so stacked against him yet he pulls off a win.(or in some cases pulls off completly impossible stunts, like lifting The Cocoon, a several hundred ton tank with hydraulics trying to crush him, he Shoulder Presses that like A BOSS...Pun intended)
So I think you may be onto something with Sonic and 'Chaos Factor' if it actually works like UOM that would explain the no win scenarios Sonic finds himself in and still pulling off a win.
I feel like every time he gets a new ability it's like this also, for example I think the insta shield in sonic 3 and knuckles came from him turning super sonic in the previous game and he learned how to temporarily become invincible in base form, and I feel like his homing attack in sonic adventure came from hyper sonic, which is able to dash in any direction in midair in sonic 3 and knuckles.
Sonic power comes from his years and years of collecting rings and exposure from chaos energy unlike Shadow who during his first appearance was fresh. I do love the theory though and it lines up with the Star Wars references
Nice vid! It's certainly an interesting theory. You should do a video with Scourge.
My theory of how tails can fly is that he shoves a massive tail wing made of glass in his rear to give him more stable flight.
Since its fully transparent you cannot see it move due tails his flight always being viewed from the side
Ask yourself this: what's stronger? Sonic's emotions or *A DEMONIC GOD GENIE*
Me: hedgehog emotion
7:49 Just like Nazo. A Hedgehog made from pure Chaos Energy
Lol as far as Tails goes, taking down any of the other characters head-on is out of the question due to the simple fact that he is half their age. Probably the highest potential, but realistically...just not there yet
Agreed. I bet he would've blown us all away at some point if we continued to have the same writers from the past. Now we've got meme station over here writing stuff for the games and making Tails turn into a completely different character.
I believe Shadow could have also been also apart of the chaos factor like Sonic although he wasn’t created by it
Shadow is a mix of Black Doom and The Chaos factor that seems to like given birth to Hedgehogs
Sonic and Shadow are 2 Seprate pieces of unlocking the True Ultimate Lifeform which is Shadic
I believe that the Symbols in Sonic 3 and Knuckles is Shadic that would explain there equal Power and desires to collect the Chaos Emeralds. Sonic is the Natural piece of the Ultimate lifeform created by the chaos force. And Shadow is the Artifical Piece of the Ultimate lifeform
The idea of Sonic having a sort of connection to the Chaos Force, or at least something similar, kinda inadvertently means that it was kinda prophesied that Shadow would end up throwing things out of whack, given how Sonic shows up in murals. I mean, it seems to me that Shadow might have been based on the murals in question, in-universe. Which means that Sonic's existence was also prophesied, in-universe. Which kinda makes me think that the prophesy is self-fulfilling. Also, confusing.
I hope this doesn't cause anyone to start thinking in circles...
This theory honestly feels like a concept that would be considered by the writers at Sonic Team if an “Adventure 3” was still in the cards. Not bad imo.
Why are all these theories soo much better than anything SEGA has EVER given us.
I love your theory it's a pretty good explanation actually
maybe (just a quick guess) there is a dark doom
and a light faith ?
light faith created sonic when he saw dark doom help to create shadow ?
I can't remember the source so take this with a grain of salt, but if I recall there is some potential in a Sega confirmation that shadows design was inspired by the image of super/hyper sonic from the echidna mural lore wise.
If that was the case, and factoring in black Doom and his seemingly inherent connection to the chaos emeralds as well (immortal lifeform is his self proclaimed title) then Gerald when engineering shadow most likely drew from the mural itself as a blueprint for shadows overall physical design, and relied on doom and his blood to imbue this connection to chaos control into shadow.
Sonic is not necessarily the chaos forces response to shadows Impending creation because the hedgehogs in this case are actually derivative of each other, the essential mirror trope of fiction of a classic yin yang and I'll elaborate more on this in a moment.
Shadow as we know him exists because of Sonic's prophecy. He is the artificial life form, not a natural cause of the force for that title would belong to another being. Black Doom
What I find interesting is that shadow is an extension of Doom, and if we look to explain the nature of beings "born" with chaos control then doom and sonic fulfil two halves of that energies own nature. That being positive and negative energy.
Shadows role as an anti hero and artificial, independent creature allows him to defy the convention of his "father" doom as the "evil" or negative representative.
So perhaps sonic was born to serve as a natural focal point of the positive side of the chaos force and doom was the negative focal point. After all doom was born way before sonic, and Sonic's overall life span places him in line with the impending invasion and coming of Doom. Had Shadow not been the main protagonist of his own game, sonic would have been the only other one with the potential to stop doom.
Shadow now serves to hold his father's place in this spectrum embodying the negative or "dark side" of the chaos force but, his grey morality allows him to forgo the role of villain however and be whatever he wants to be hence his role as the anti hero.
That's an interesting point that sonic might not know about where his own powers come from. I agree that him being that good of a guy protecting him. No I think that point of him being a servant potentially of the caoas emeralds themselves could be a reasonable point. They do seem to like him and he seems to be were ever they get involved and he usually ends up in a way rescuing them from robotnick almost more then animals. hun...Anyway, I saw a fan comic play around with the idea of sonic being bound the the emeralds kind of like knuckles is to the master emerald. Granted he dies literally in that time line but still an interesting point. He has all kinds of weird things connected to the emeralds. In sonic x he was able to send them away. He has also been show to bring them too him in a sense almost at will. He was the first to go super with them so there's something to be said for that. Have we seen a moment where someone goes super with out sonic present to start the process? Think about it he seems to almost spread it to the other characters or show them how to do it? Even shadow didn't do it before meting sonic. I think that says a lot. He does seem to be able to channel them. Many would argue that shadow is better at caos control then sonic. I would ague that sonic has the better channeling ability just not as much control. You could say that while shadow uses it sonic feels it. There is also this sense of a little bit of caos in every living creature and some creatures in sonics world just having more of a affinity for it then others. I just realized silver did it once with out sonic present but he saw sonic do it first so there is an argument for that too. Luck, you could say, is a power too.
I think this is a super cool theory I don't know anything about any of the comic Canon or any of that stuff I don't care about any of that but all I know is it's a really really cool idea
And NOW, Sonic is the key to unlocking Cyberspace, and he can freely move in and out of it without effect, PLUS being able to take on more of the cyber corruption than anyone should be able to, and being able to push himself forward even while being roboticized from the inside out.
What the heck IS Sonic???
(And also, if Shadow really is the Ultimate Lifeform, how is Sonic able to kick his ass every time?)
I see it as this (Game Only)
Shiro Maekawa wrote SA2 with an underlying plot and deeper meaning. What underlying plot? To show Sonic as ‘THE Ultimate Lifeform’. Ignore everything past SA2 since SEGA decided canon should not exist. So how do we come to this conclusion? Well remember professor Geralds research on Angel Island and the mystic ruins? Yes and on angel island there is very special and important ancient stuff. Most remember the mural, but that alone is not all. Sonic also has 1 to 1 statues of himself that may be over hundreds of years old. Also it’s safe to say due to how much he was worshipped in those times, he was also wrote about. This is how Gerald knew what to do with shadow to try to make him as close as possible to the original. Of course he ran into difficulties and had to rely on other methods to try and make him close to Sonics level. Evidence of this is shadows Hover Shoes to skate at really high speeds rivaling sonic. Gerald also could not figure out a way for shadow to contain his chaos energy, so he gave inhibitor rings that stop most of his chaos energy from burning away uncontrollably unless he decides to take him off which puts him at risk to die from a loss of energy. Sonic don’t need these things because he is the original thing. So yes Sonic is the true real ‘Ultimate Lifeform’. Also sonic has a better connection to chaos energy then shadow (Likely a Spiritual connection), this allows sonic to use a phony emerald to chaos control, something shadow said that should be impossible, seemingly implying that is something he unable to do. In SA2 the final hazard battle you hear shadow say that sonic might be the ultimate lifeform. I see it as shadow finally figured it out (similar looks, similar powers, sonic was able to beat him in their last fight before going and teaming up to save the world, and sonic is doing things that should be impossible), he finally put it all together and knowing what he was created after because of the professors journals, he sees that he is fighting along the legend himself. Shadow Will always be the Copy and the copy will never be as good as the original. Of course this was mostly forgotten but I will say look at SA2 real lore, you really see a true canon and meaning being developed. So shadow came back after due to popularity and was absolutely destroyed, making shadow one of the most misrepresented and worst characters in the franchise. Maybe SEGA knew the real meaning still and had sonic beating shadow all the time, pissing shadow off that he is supposed to be the real Ultimate Lifeform even though he is a fake. Of course this is an ego problem with shadow and I wish he and sonic were to be friends in the games, even if shadow would never admit such a thing. If I could rewrite shadow 05, I would make it so much more showing of shadows 3d character. Shadow is not a anti-hero, he is a real hero fighting alongside Sonics friends and would willingly help them with nothing in return, sonic will have that influence on you and shadow should be shown with that influence such as the Archie comics and sonic 06 to an extent.
It would explain why Sonic is getting more and more powerful as the games go on. Dark Sonic (Sonic X) is probably also related to this. (Metal Virus saga in IDW also shows some clues.)
Sega/Sonic Team probably won't do much with this or answer if this theory is true, but it does give merit to some plot points and could be used for a good fan fiction. Maybe he starts to lose control of his powers and it signals the time for his destiny to be fulfilled? Dark Sonic could also play a part in this.
Though, based off what you just said, I feel Unleashed or 06 is the true ending to that plotline. It just makes since and works well.
Regarding Tails, I believe he's very special compared to the rest of the cast. (
Maybe not in the way Archie comics did him., but he may also have a destiny to fulfill. Eggman, Knuckles, Blaze, and Amy too.
Every character actually could have their powers for a specific moment. One where the 'Ultimate Lifeform' will require their help to end... whatever the destiny of his is.
Good video dude. I hope to see more Sonic theory videos from you.
funnily enough, forces of all games actually referenced it right after thenfirst infinite fight. "unlike mechs, I can grow. I get more powerful every second"
I feel like shadow would not like what the thumbnail says...any body agree?
Yes, especially the current version not so much the adventure and the 2000s versions of him.
Shadow says Sonic might be a/the ultimate life form in Sonic Adventure 2.
Me: **reads the entirety of the editors' note without pausing the video** I am speed
14 minute video to explain sonic has the power of "main character plot armor"
So that means that Sonic canonicaly has plot armor lol (Great video btw)
Short version:
sonic is god
11:20 Tails could fly in Tails' Adventures.
Of Sonic being the últimate life form, it's the most coherent. There are several characters aside Shadow are labeled as it, like Emerl(whose body loosely resemblance sonic ), but all share 2 trait ,they were designed, they are artificial there was a external source that granted these capabilities. But we're these sciencist get the idea of a ultimate lifeform, and growth obsessed with replicate and improve it. And there enter the murals on angel island were Sonic appears as one of 2 being fighting for a source of power, and there should be more data of this like in the were they find the Gizoid, there is Implied they try to replicate something. So Sonic is a natural ultimate life form. Funnily this could imply Eggman himself is a being that can rival this being in some way, and his the main reason Sonic his force to his full potential. Plus he created Metal Sonic from scratch, and at least Neo Metal can be considered a últimate lifeform.
The second trait they share It's all of them can loss control, and autodestruct with everything around them. They lack something that stabilize their power, only Shadow archive to obtain it as he don't need his inhibitors anymore.
Sonic is simply an embodiment of chaos. This comes to him naturally, while shadow has this form factor artificially. Sonic is able to achieve things he shouldn’t, yet he does. Why?...Because of his SPIRIT and will power. Yes he’s fast, yes he’s physically strong and durable, and yes he’s way past cool. Although all these things are true, his real super power comes from within, That’s why he’s able to control and harness chaos energy so very well. I like to think of him as someone who is GREATER than himself, unknowingly....that just so happens to be fast lol
....At least that’s how it used to be in older installments, Sonic is a cocky bastard in newer games and I hate it.🤦🏽♂️
Agreed. That's what drew me to the character to begin with. With the new games shifting his personality to be more cocky (and IMO a complainer) I just can't get into it. Aside from Mania, I haven't played a new game since the Black Knight.
I thought gerald created the ultimate life form after he had sutdied chaos and he came up with that the ultimate life form must be a hedgehog not a liquid chaos or a lizard to be able to use chaos powers so shadow is created as sonic because the ultimate life form is a hedgehog which is capable of reaching the speed of light and use chaos powers
Maybe the reason why sonic didn’t turn (as) evil, is probably because sonic had a little spark in him that let him have control maybe.🤔 I’m not sure...
Sonic winning all the time can just be PIS or just a hax ability he has, but I do believe he has some connection to some kind of force he can tap into.
Sonic wins cause that is what he does
My theory is that sonic truly IS the ultimate life form, and shadow is the “faker” that was supposed to be the ultimate life form. as shadow has the whole amnesia thing he must forget about what he said to sonic.
In archie comics sonic gain the chaos force by collecting over 1 billion rings.
David Mah Are you referring to when he becomes Ultra Sonic?
@@thesilverace01 no, I am referring to sonic invisible shield. Eggman state that the reason why sonic keeps on winning is because he gain the chaos force by collecting over 1 billion rings. Meaning he wasn't born with the chaos force.
The is streching real far but I'll give my opinion on points in the video as well as add my own theory to this to see what you all think.
First off is a very minor kitpick but the Chaos force/factor, I believe its called Chaos energy since in the games anyone can use the Chaos emeralds regardless of any connection to them unlike in the comics where only a few characters can use them.
Secondly emerl and the world rings I believe that sonic is very unpredictable and can adapt against his enemies like eggman which explains why sonic is able to beat emerl because emerl couldn't predict Sonic's attacks.
When it comes to enrazer dinn he might have been unable to control the world rings power so they left him and attached themselves to sonic(similar to your theory of being because of his connection to Chaos energy/ Chaos force)
Thirdly sonic has been know to have strong willpower as he never gives up on himself and always finds a way to win,this would explain why sonic is resistant to dark Gaia's energy as sonic didn't give up on himself (or get corupted by it like in the comics)
I remember the comics saying that sonic is a embodiment of chaos which is why he can use chaos energy(this is one of the only elements I use from the comics as it doesn't contradict the game's canon similar to the time sonic gave his chaos energy to Megaman like he did to shadow and silver in sonic 06 and tails and knuckles in sonic heroes)
All right theory time:
So I believe that sonic was created with a connection to Chaos energy and in turn the chaos emeralds because of Sonic's father(which is a low possibility because we haven't seen him yet) or(like you said) by the chaos emeralds, most likely by the creators of the chaos emeralds themselves to protect the world from evil or if dark Gaia wakens again,(yes I believe that the chaos emeralds were created to stop dark Gaia because there is a slot for them inside the Gaia temples and why sonic can defeat him) it's possible that there were other embodiments of chaos before sonic and he's their descendent.
This would also explain his unpredictability and adaptability in battle as Eggman,metal sonic,emerl and even shadow who was created with chaos energy by Gerald Robotnik can't beat him.
This explains why sonic was on the enigna statues and mulal on angel Island as they predicted a descendant of the embodiment of chaos to arrive and save them from the giant(which was Eggman) and was probably destinied to fight Chaos and stop his rampage.
Through his speed might be because of his father and not the chaos emeralds as I have a theory that Sonic's father was the fastest thing alive before sonic.
(Sorry about spelling errors, it wouldn't autocorrect words properly so I made with what I have)
"Shadow constantly suprassed by Sonic"
Sonic never made Shadow remove his rings.
Sonic beat shadow tho
@@Fiiwse5676 in sonic x shadow was stronger than sonic
@@Fiiwse5676 in the shadow game he wooped sonics ass several times 😂
In Sonic X, the 2nd awakened clone of shadow whooped Sonic's ass immediately after whooping Knuckles' ass. In Shadow the Hedgehog, of course he whooped Sonic's ass, it's his fucking video game. I've always taught about it as this. Shadow's stronger than Sonic, but Sonic can level up more, if that makes any sense. He has fire sonic, dark sonic, super sonic, hyper sonic, fire sonic (though I don't believe fire sonic is canon) while we've only seen shadow and silver in their super forms. And if you take dark sonic into consideration, it's litwrally just sonic, but getting angry and letting go. So idk.
@@DeathPoker1 Shadow wasn't actually stronger than Sonic in Sonic X.
In Sonic X Sonic and Shadow only fought 5 times. In their first encounter, no one actually won in that fight because the police showed up and Shadow decided to flee the scene with the Chaos Emerald he had. But if that fight was to keep on going than Sonic would probably have lost due to the fact that Shadow had an external advantage in that fight which was the chaos emerald he had, which doesn't make him more stronger in essence than Sonic.
In their second encounter on prison island Sonic fought Shadow to a stand still, but both had to retreat as the island was going to soon detonate.
In their third encounter in Space colony ARK, Both fought each other to a standstill again but Shadow retreated because he didn't see the need to keep on fighting Sonic when he thought he had completed his goal of fulfilling Dr Gerald's plan of world destruction.
In their fourth encounter in space, Sonic and Shadow were in their Super-form's and both fought each other to a stand still but both had to stop fighting and retreat again because the Metarex base near them had collapsed into a black hole.
In there fifth encounter when Shadow broke into Tail's Space Ship, Sonic had to take a chaos spear attack for Chris, saving his life but the attack made Sonic to weak to stop Shadow, so Shadow was able to take him out. Sonic could've stopped Shadow but couldn't in that situation because he was protecting
Chris's life with his life. So that scene doesn't prove that Shadow is more powerful than Sonic.
But no matter what happened in Sonic X, I don't think its relevant because its not canon. The Comics aren't canon as well.
In Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic has proven to outlast Shadow in a battle. At the end of the final battle Super Shadow couldn't maintain his super form(probably due to inexperience as this was the first time he went Super with the chaos emeralds) and fell back down to the earth, he was suppose to die after that but Sega brought him back in the games due to the fans popular demand.
I believe that Sonic and Shadow are both equal in power, Shadow was a character that was made to be the exact opposite of Sonic, thus why he is named "Shadow" the hedgehog because he is the exact opposite of Sonic; character, behavior and personality wise. It also seems that Sonic is one of the only characters strong enough to counter Shadow.
9:00 this is called "Quantumn Invincibility", when no matter the situation, the outcome will always be you winning or surviving somehow, even if neither you nor your foes know about that.
This was actually a pretty great theory
Ever since Shadow came out I assumed that Sonic's speed was just some unconcious use of Chaos Control...
This video adds a reason. I like that.
I'm all for this theory entirely and also tails can fly because I've always believed his tails might be robotic in some ways (Sorta like a cyborg maybe) and the reason he gets "tired out" is actually because the tails are overheating so he has to land so they may cooldown
So, the midiclorians gave him plot armor
Your on to something man!