It also depends on how fast the blitz is and the reaction speed of the target. It doesn't matter what your pattern is if you throw a million punches in a nanosecond before they have time to register the first one.
And they're ALWAYS cocky so they think that there's no way their attacks are slow enough to study. Real shame for my favorite popular superpower@@Ender_Onryo
In almost EVERY single fight scene of strength vs speed, the strength guy is always just a slow dumb brute who gets owned by the "underdog" speedster. Nice to see a change.
Great animation dude, i know how long it takes to make even simple stuff so its great to see people pour their time and effort into making these for us to see. Keep it up man 👍
This is a perfect representation of the two combat styles that focus on one or the other. As long as both have technique, the rest comes down to strategy and accuracy.
The problem is just that the speed of red varies between "slow" and "faster than blue" depending on convenience. The Red clearly has the same reaction time as Blue, or even faster, otherwise he would never win. So you can't really really say it's "strength vs speed". Apart from the speed of the punches and kicks. At this point 0:12 you can't even tell who is slow and who is fast.
True. Blue has faster travel speed but their reaction speed is similar otherwise Red would not be able to see attacks coming even if he knew he would not be fast enough. This is the problem with super speed, either nobody can see you thus making you a god, or people can see you thus heavily undermining the speed
@@amoresjohnwendell-os5ev cos you're dumb? explain to me how a dude that runs 100x faster than the speed of sound should lose to a dude who punches through walls
"Even the strongest attacks are pointless if they don't hit" -Muichiro Tokito (thanks for 1.2k like i wished i had them in my videos rather than comments)
i love how strength's movements are heavy and forceful, befitting the weight he probably needs to hit so hard while speed's movements are light and graceful, since he isn't nearly as built as strength is and needs to weigh as little as possible to be so fast
@@wolflightning2331These are obviously superpowered stick figures. No regular person could move so fast they become an actual blur. There is no reason why you should apply “erm, to punch fast you have to be really strong!” logic to them. It’s a fucking video about stick figures not real people fighting you utter dunce.
Though if we consider physics, speed is force. If one could move at super speed, and let’s just say for the sake of the argument that they can withstand any impact. The force behind a punch traveling faster than sound would be significantly stronger than a slower person with super strength. A faster punch can result in a harder hit due to the increased momentum and force generated. This is apparent with bullets. Although the bullet itself is tiny, the small surface area concentrates its momentum. Which is also why needles can puncture your skin with little pressure, as the center of kinetic energy is concentrated to a single point. So even if you accumulated all your strength into one arm, if your punch is not very fast, it won't do as much to your opponent. Strength cannot mimic super speed. Including the larger surface area your fist has compared to a bullet. Which disperses the force generated on impact. Overall, speed can be used to simulate the effects of strength, on top of being far too fast to counter. Imagine this fight again but Peirce here actually gave speed the respect it deserves. There would have been hundreds of punches in the span of a second. Lastly, strength and durability are different. They are not the same.
It also depends on size of the object traveling at that speed. Typically in real fights the faster opponents are lighter and smaller while the stronger opponents are heavier and bigger. A small amount of mass traveling fast and hitting a bigger target wouldn't do as much damage as a large amount of mass hitting a smaller target with a lot of force.
Thank goodness someone said it. It also means that if you had infinite speed: meaning you can move over any distance over any amount of time, it also essentially means you have unlimited power
@@Mic.vencer there's no such thing as infinite speed. There's only an amount an object can move beyond the speed of light and at that point everything is the same. There's only much the body could take which's why most speedsters makes no sense since they have to be as invincible as superman to not only handle the gravity, air pressure and the constant change of direction but also the impacts from the force that was accumulated from their running.
I like how you can tell that Red is an experienced fighter and fought speedster before. He quickly got him airborn by punching the ground, knew to back punch when the speedster tried to attack him from behind after blue used his speed to get behind him. Make sudden attack with his head punch to dong give blue reaction time and knew when to time his attack when blue got anime fast.
Finally a decent comparison. Everyone I've seen either has strength be completely unphased, or has speed blitz instantly. Either that or speed doesn't take advantage of their main thing and loses because of it. (Logan wink wink nudge nudge)
If you understood a little about physics you would know that speed is force. If a character can move at super sonic speed, he must have greater resistance against the air attrition. Not to mention the impact force that a punch at the speed of sound (or more) can cause. What's the point of being super strong but not having enough speed to make a big impact? Even if you concentrate all your strength in one arm, if your punch is very slow, it won't do anything to your opponent.
@@Regador_InutilAlso the Red guy.. if you are strong enough to hit the floor and make a shockwave capable of lifting your opponent without suffering any major damage then, I'll safely say that he's pretty durable so: Red = Big Strenght/Power/Destructive Power and Durability Blue= Speed/Reflexes, Accuracy/Precision and punching middle power
@@Godoudama Mathematically, it is impossible for something to have destructive power if it does not have speed. According to physics, speed has greater destructive power. Superhuman physical strength just gives you the ability to lift and pull weights beyond the ordinary. If you are super fast, in addition to having tons of air at thousands of kilometers per hour hitting you like something entering an atmosphere, you have faster cells too.Therefore, your regeneration capacity would be greater because you are accelerated. You still have more adaptation speed. Your training would take effect faster, your body can handle much more extreme things than someone super strong. So naturally, you super fast would be stronger, with greater impact power and greater endurance than someone who has more strength. Just think, if you could move at the speed of light, not only would time stand still for you (because the speed of time in the perception of light is zero), your punch at the speed of light could destroy a planet.
speed wins...literally doesn't matter you punch with the strength of a black hole The speed one can also do the same. That's simply how physics work, the faster you move with a mass the more power you have So if you move with speed of light and you have let's say 70kg of mass, you could easly destroy the strength guy in matter of a milisecond simply due to: 1. Amount of punches 2. The strength of each would be applified by the speed of the impact 3. Speed > Mass
@@SagreChinto nah , dont bring in physics in this after saying all this shi. You buggin on the very basics. NO OBJECT with mass can attain speed of light and also, light doesnt get past through black hole and black hole's near infinite gravity is much greater than the power obtained by assuming light speed punches with mass.
@@Narcissistic.nAz_i dude did you read the primal comment? "Speed: I punch at the speed of light!" So we from the very beggining ignore the rule that no object with mass can attain speed of light i still believe speed > strength, you aint no surviving 10000000 punches in matter of 1 second
@@SagreChinto listen , yk if you need smth with mass to reach light speed , youll need infinite energy (acc to einstein) , so , saying that someone has punches at speed of light would mean that he got infinite energy and do you understand how much big of a hax infinite energy is. If you allow this , then there's no room for any question , that guy will rule the multiverse or shi, but if wanna abide the laws of physics then you gotta decrease the mass of your fists gradually as they approach light speed and once there , they'll become massless so wont hurt anyways. Ik that black hole is also like a glitch in the unvierse but atleast it is possible and idk wtf this guy means by comparing power to a blackhole, its just have fking huge gravity so, you wont be able to punch or even move your fist and just attract people towards you.
As the great Conor Mcgregor said "timing beats speed" and he sure had great timing, managing to land 40% of his punches against such a fast target shows his amazing skill.
@@yes-qw6om i was talking about the power stick guy not conor himself, if you look at the video the power guy throws 10 attacks towards the speed guy and he manages to land 4 of them.
@@amschelco.1434 i mean power is still not the most important thing when it comes to regular fighting, on top of that the power was not really what i was praising this random stick figure for. More so the sticks timing and accuracy which like conor says always beats speed. That even goes for guns and swords. You can be the fastest quickdraw but if you cant hit your target what does it matter? Same thing goes for sword fighting
In most games I put my stats into hp. Surprisingly makes me op everytime. And if you think I deal no damage then you’d be surprised that the damage on my builds is very good as well xD
@@titanus261No. Proper Timing beats Speed. If you can’t land your hit it won’t matter how fast you are. And if someone can predict your moves and is stronger then one hit will be more devastating than 1000 light hits.
@@edwinsolis5710 nope, what you seems to forget is the fact that strength doesnt equal to durability to body durability, while to be fast your muscle and skin must be extremely strong and durable, also speed affect greatly the his power, the faster you are the most devastating you are. Also another thing, in this video, that guy is just doing bunch, bunch, bunch of useless movement, he could have just stayed in front of him and dogded his attacks cause if he's fast enough to do all that, he must be fast enough to also dogde all of his attacks and punch him in jaw and knock him out cold because the brain tend to not like fast movement in the head. 3rd point, even if we take durability in account, timing would mean absolutely nothing if he the strength guy doesnt use a trick to slow down the other guy, remember that he move 10 times his own length before the other could finish throw his fist, he could just dogde it up at any moment if this was realistic. Yes the strength guy would one shot him but he cant do it if he cant even land a proper hit where the other can do excessive damage over and over again and knock him out cold in seconds.
@@edwinsolis5710so the strong dude gets a brain but the speedster doesn't? Sure timing can beat a speedster but that is if the speedster doesn't know how to think. If the strong dude can predict what the speedster will do what makes you think the speedster can't do the same thing 💀
@@LOWW4orand5orboth it means you also use the Internet. We both travel from place to place on this digital plane, learning what we can, and sharing what we know.
Love how the strength isn't a complete idiot and actually make full use of his strength's capability and adapting to the speedster's movement 0:07 after witnessing blue's speed, he immidiately adapts by using an unorthodox attack which is punching the floor so fucking hard that the enemy gets shot up. Blue could not react to that, because again he didn't expect him to be THAT powerful 0:17 he quickly adapts to the pattern of the opponent, when blue went all out with his speed he had a very noticeable pattern by going left and right constantly attacking his front and back. Red quickly took advantage, when he got hit at the front, he immidiately positioned his body to face his back and threw a punch. Knowing that Blue would end up there
Speed: Can double damage because of how fast you hit your opponent. Strenght: Has more counter damage and can counter speed by using the opponents speed as advantage.
I remember these.. Back when Newgrounds was the sickest platform on the internet for upstart digital artists, and those Stickfigure websites soaked up hours of our time.
hand speed and traveling speed can be very different, so speed doesn't necessarily have extremely high hand speed. their speed seems more based around traveling speed. also that final punch landed as a counter to someone traveling that fast, no wonder that ended the fight
Pierce still has that dawg in him, this animation reminds me one of those classic side view perspective "Color vs color" fighting videos when i was younger, this is incredible to see in these day and age
One thing I always wished was for someone to portray super speed more realistically. The speed of someone like The Flash is weird when you think about it, because they never have to worry about the downsides of too much speed. The built up momentum not letting your body stop or change directions. Casually breaking the sound barrier without the sonic boom obliterating your surroundings. Hitting Mach 6 without the friction of the air burning you. Don’t even get me started with the friction of the ground. The soles of your shoes would be molten by the time you eventually stop (assuming they’re still on). In a fight like this, where the speedster gets reckless and starts dashing, it’s natural they get screwed up by running into their opponents attacks. They literally can’t stop what they started. 😂
Ok but, one thing I still don’t get is, can’t the Flash can’t just, phase through most attacks? Especially if the flash was in this fight. He can just phase through any physical damage, or am I wrong?
Well you see writers dont know math and physics. Due to a deadline and the fact that writing is not easy. Since you gotta worry about other shit, instead of taking time to calculate their characters strength and speed
@@Seinsmelled realism provides an organic source of conflict and inspires creative solutions from the characters, which helps give more depth to one’s writing, and avoid writer’s block or plot holes.
Speed would win due to just being able to dodge the only downside is getting hit once from strength would weaken them a lot making the speed probably a bit slower depending on their durability
for everyone thinking the faster one has more power because of "physics" dont understand that the difference is mass is more important hence weight classes in combat sports. you can even observe a significant increase in knockout rates in high weight classes than lower despite the lower being much faster.
Strength is better because you can just spam ground slam and deny the enemy of their speed via denying them their footing, allowing you to lead into easy air juggle comboes
@@coems12981If it isnt a game, then what is it? Both the stick men are doing pretty much impossible things on there, I'd say its just a really good anim
If you were thinking realistic speed is better because it allows you to punch faster and deal more dmg plus more speed gives you massive weight and intern strengthens your attacks. While strength you have to be really lucky to catch a speed person and land a good hit or accurate as hell
At first glance, the animation appears to be a straightforward depiction of a physical confrontation between two opposing forces. The blue stickman, embodying the essence of speed, launches a swift and relentless assault on the red stickman, who stands as the embodiment of strength. The rapid movements of the blue stickman illustrate the undeniable advantage of speed in the initial stages of the encounter. It is a demonstration of the immediate impact and effectiveness of agility in overcoming obstacles and gaining an upper hand in competitive situations. However, as the narrative unfolds, a pivotal moment arises when the red stickman delivers a single powerful punch, halting the relentless advance of the blue stickman and ultimately securing victory. This decisive action symbolizes the enduring power and resilience inherent in strength. Despite facing overwhelming speed and agility, the red stickman demonstrates that brute force, when wielded with precision and determination, can be a formidable adversary. The confrontation depicted in "Strength vs. Speed" transcends the realm of mere physical combat, delving into deeper philosophical questions about the nature of human capability and the dynamics of competition. It prompts reflection on the value of resilience and perseverance in the face of adversity. While speed may offer immediate advantages and opportunities for swift maneuvering, it is strength that sustains endurance and resilience over the long haul. Moreover, the animation serves as a metaphor for the dichotomy between different approaches to achieving success. In a world that often celebrates quick victories and instant gratification, the red stickman's triumph serves as a reminder of the enduring value of patience, discipline, and unwavering determination. It underscores the importance of harnessing one's inner strength and tapping into reservoirs of resilience to overcome obstacles and achieve lasting success. Beyond its allegorical significance, "Strength vs. Speed" also raises questions about the interplay between physical attributes and mental fortitude. While the red stickman may possess raw physical strength, it is his strategic thinking and calculated response that ultimately secures victory. This aspect of the animation speaks to the importance of intellect and adaptability in navigating challenges and achieving goals. Furthermore, the juxtaposition of strength and speed invites contemplation on the notion of balance in human endeavors. Just as the red stickman's overwhelming strength is tempered by the blue stickman's agile movements, so too must individuals seek equilibrium in their pursuit of excellence. Striking the right balance between strength and speed, resilience and agility, allows for a harmonious integration of diverse capabilities and enhances one's ability to thrive in a dynamic and competitive environment. In conclusion, "Strength vs. Speed" transcends its simple stickman animation format to offer profound insights into the nature of human capability and the dynamics of competition. Through the dynamic interplay between the red stickman, symbolizing strength, and the blue stickman, representing speed, the animation explores themes of resilience, perseverance, and the balance between physical prowess and agility. It serves as a powerful reminder of the enduring value of inner strength, strategic thinking, and the pursuit of balance in the face of adversity. Ultimately, "Strength vs. Speed" invites viewers to reflect on their own approaches to challenges and endeavors, inspiring a deeper appreciation for the multifaceted nature of human capability.
I am 99% sure you are either a robot or you intentionally took this way too seriously, but the beauty and accuracy of this comment stands regardless. Well done.
Strength here was often matching Speed’s speed so it was never fair, when strength beats speed it’s not how it was displayed here, but more like what Omni-Man did to Red Rush.
Nuh uh, if you're too damn fast and I managed to see your patterns and hit you with a perfectly timed punch, you would walk right into it and the damage is doubled due to your speed. If you think you can dodge it easily with reaction time then you don't know what the first law of motion is@@Mytakesarepeak
that depends because speed is the basis of all strength. A wall is only as strong as you walk or run into it so without any momentum or speed generated strength cannot exist. A bullet for example is only as deadly as it is because of speed and strength or weight is pretty minimal. For a punch in the face to hurt you optimally need good technique and momentum aka speed in this case for it to do any damage
If speed includes reaction speed then Speed > Power until the powerful person's attacks start doing area damage. The faster the fast person gets, the more impossible it is to hit them so they will always whittle you down no matter how strong you are. However, if the strong person can start dealing enough damage to the entire area that the fight is taking place in then speed will have no usage, you can't dodge the explosion of a planet (although in that case, it would definitely be a tie) Also, speed gives strength through the laws of motion. Force = mass x acceleration. I would assume that strength gives large muscles which have high mass while keeping the same acceleration but speed grants acceleration. Even if speed did not grant super acceleration, human running acceleration is 3.51m/s squared which is around 8 miles per hour per second. Not bad as it wouldn't take long before you start generating enough speed to completely decimate anyone. There is a pretty big problem with this equation, however. If we assume that the force generated is pretty much the same between powers and that the only change is their respective values then we get a few problems. 1st is that the strength user would weigh one hell of a lot which either implies a VERY high density of muscle fibers like what should be happening in this video or the guy would be massive (godzilla style). The 2nd problem is that "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" which means that applying a force in one direction causes a backwards force of the same magnitude. In other words, if either side were to land a blow, they would have to be resistant enough to withstand aforementioned blow. The likely outcome of this fight is the speed user begins to build up speed while dodging attacks from the strength user and eventually decides to go for the kill. Upon landing the blow, only some of the power actually lands. Probably enough to kill the strength user but the cost would be the speed user's entire arm as a best case scenario (further damage might be caused depending on the skill behind the punch). Arguably, the speed user could sacrifice a finger to whip the strength user, causing less damage but it could still be fatal to the head. However, the speed user would then take a long time to decelerate as stopping suddenly would obliterate them. If the strength user landed the punch instead, they would also destroy themselves (if I were them, I'd user Deku's strategy from my hero academia and sacrifice fingers for a blast of pressure). In conclusion, it's likely that no one would win this fight. Speed is too fast for strength to hit but neither can land a hit if they want to stay fully intact. Mutually assured destruction
@@CarlosVasquez-fn1syWho says strength doesn't have "martial arts"? And what do you mean by martial arts? Martial arts is an EXTREMELY broad term. Both boxing and fighting with an axe are martial arts.
Realistically if someone was that fast they'd have reaction speed even faster than their movement speed, same goes for every living creature. Speed would beat strength purely on being able to dodge every single attack thrown at them. Plus strikes at that velocity would pack a punch even if the person wasn't particularly strong.
Strength still had good reaction speed, and speed had good striking strength. You can't compare these two attributes and have (stick) people portray them, it doesn't work.
It’s always cool to see a really strong character fight a really fast character, but I’ve never seen a really strong and fast character fight a really strong character and really fast character at the same time
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“Precision beats power, and timing beats speed.”
hajime no ippo
hajime no ippo
@@wtcobs2 Where was that quote used in Hajime no Ippo? I dont remember it. This quote has existed for years in the boxing community.
@@pillowcaseee i just heard it in hajime no ippo i dont remember where
Some cooked up version of Rock Paper Scissors you’re playing there
This is why you NEVER blitz attack with a pattern. EVERY speedster in EVERY universe dies this way
Red rush did an oopsy doopsy
@@Cheese_man539now his head is a poopsy
It also depends on how fast the blitz is and the reaction speed of the target. It doesn't matter what your pattern is if you throw a million punches in a nanosecond before they have time to register the first one.
And they're ALWAYS cocky so they think that there's no way their attacks are slow enough to study. Real shame for my favorite popular superpower@@Ender_Onryo
@@memerightsactivist7972 Yeah, one of the few realistic ways a speedster should get taken out is they under estimate their enemy.
In almost EVERY single fight scene of strength vs speed, the strength guy is always just a slow dumb brute who gets owned by the "underdog" speedster. Nice to see a change.
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Sonic vs knuckles
Youd enjoy Combat Gods
As it should be
Legit one of the most underrated comments on RUclips. Give this lad or lass some more likes
Great animation dude, i know how long it takes to make even simple stuff so its great to see people pour their time and effort into making these for us to see. Keep it up man 👍
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This is a perfect representation of the two combat styles that focus on one or the other. As long as both have technique, the rest comes down to strategy and accuracy.
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@@firestriker3580 yes strength doesn't have any technique while speed does
@@elsieshahipplewith9895 Both do lol
@@elsieshahipplewith9895 clueless, generating maximum strength is a lot about technique, it's more about generating power than raw strength though
The problem is just that the speed of red varies between "slow" and "faster than blue" depending on convenience. The Red clearly has the same reaction time as Blue, or even faster, otherwise he would never win. So you can't really really say it's "strength vs speed". Apart from the speed of the punches and kicks. At this point 0:12 you can't even tell who is slow and who is fast.
True. Blue has faster travel speed but their reaction speed is similar otherwise Red would not be able to see attacks coming even if he knew he would not be fast enough. This is the problem with super speed, either nobody can see you thus making you a god, or people can see you thus heavily undermining the speed
Like a wise man once said "you could have the fastest hands in the world but someone with precision and timing would demolish you" -Random dude
"i wish to be strong and precise with my attacks so I could win a fight", that's what I will ask a genie now
@@xanderonamy Yes, precisely. How the fck are you gonna find a genie though? beats me
@@KelKnows i dont know
@@xanderonamyI have heard if u win nnn 3 times in a row ur 1 wish is granted could also be a myth tho not sure
@@AIEgg i will never get it tho, I lose NNN the at the first day
For someone that is purely strength, he has a pretty good reaction time.
He kinda needs the good reaction time if he wanted to win
If he didn't have good reaction time. He would never land his punches. What good is strength If you can never land your hits
Which is dumb in my opinion. Why would you give the guy with strength better reaction time than the speedster?
@@nigelwilliams7179 Yea true.
@@nigelwilliams7179So the strength guy will win which is a good thing. Hulking beast should > thin ass fastdy
That strength guy was pretty darn fast actually
No he can read the pattern
I think this is the first time someone has ever animated something like this and let the man with superior Strength Win... it's refreshing...
But unrealistic cause speed always better in that situation
@@ediakin4993 “always” LOL… no… you’re the problem.
@@ediakin4993Never always
True, i deadass always cringe whenever the speedsters beat the power/strength types
@@amoresjohnwendell-os5ev cos you're dumb? explain to me how a dude that runs 100x faster than the speed of sound should lose to a dude who punches through walls
"Even the strongest attacks are pointless if they don't hit"
-Muichiro Tokito (thanks for 1.2k like i wished i had them in my videos rather than comments)
He ran into the punch for him
@@compositeur8455What a nice guy, didn't want to hurt the red stickmans feelings.
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Upper 5 learned that the hard way
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Red Guy: Strength, Power, Stamina, Endurance
Blue Guy: Speed, Agility, Durability, Reflexes, Abilities, Skill
Blue guy got the durability you know how strong those punches are?
@@minosprimus
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Blue one gets stamina
give reaction to red
i love how strength's movements are heavy and forceful, befitting the weight he probably needs to hit so hard while speed's movements are light and graceful, since he isn't nearly as built as strength is and needs to weigh as little as possible to be so fast
Well, yes. Good job at essentially describing the ideas of Strength and Speed. LOL
@@EonThaWolf thanks i love writing long-winded paragraphs about things i like, im glad youre being so encouraging 😊
@@nathanpierce7681 Anytime.
to throw fast punches you need to be STRONG
@@wolflightning2331These are obviously superpowered stick figures. No regular person could move so fast they become an actual blur. There is no reason why you should apply “erm, to punch fast you have to be really strong!” logic to them. It’s a fucking video about stick figures not real people fighting you utter dunce.
Speed and strength is the best power duo, change my mind.
Speed+strength = power
precision is better than both
Exactly@@KWillo
@@TheReaper7371 underrated comment.What good is having power of you're missing the target?
What about time bending and cooking?
"In the time it takes you to get in one punch, I can get in ten!"
"All I need is one punch."
To be fair the red one is just a better fighter
Though if we consider physics, speed is force. If one could move at super speed, and let’s just say for the sake of the argument that they can withstand any impact. The force behind a punch traveling faster than sound would be significantly stronger than a slower person with super strength. A faster punch can result in a harder hit due to the increased momentum and force generated. This is apparent with bullets. Although the bullet itself is tiny, the small surface area concentrates its momentum. Which is also why needles can puncture your skin with little pressure, as the center of kinetic energy is concentrated to a single point.
So even if you accumulated all your strength into one arm, if your punch is not very fast, it won't do as much to your opponent. Strength cannot mimic super speed. Including the larger surface area your fist has compared to a bullet. Which disperses the force generated on impact. Overall, speed can be used to simulate the effects of strength, on top of being far too fast to counter. Imagine this fight again but Peirce here actually gave speed the respect it deserves. There would have been hundreds of punches in the span of a second.
Lastly, strength and durability are different. They are not the same.
It also depends on size of the object traveling at that speed. Typically in real fights the faster opponents are lighter and smaller while the stronger opponents are heavier and bigger. A small amount of mass traveling fast and hitting a bigger target wouldn't do as much damage as a large amount of mass hitting a smaller target with a lot of force.
Thank goodness someone said it. It also means that if you had infinite speed: meaning you can move over any distance over any amount of time, it also essentially means you have unlimited power
@@Mic.vencer thats in real life though. Comics just say that the guy with strength just magicly hits much harder.
@@ameerkhan3257 yes, you sure can but you can also try to measure how hard he magically hits and try to apply a real life science to it
@@Mic.vencer there's no such thing as infinite speed. There's only an amount an object can move beyond the speed of light and at that point everything is the same. There's only much the body could take which's why most speedsters makes no sense since they have to be as invincible as superman to not only handle the gravity, air pressure and the constant change of direction but also the impacts from the force that was accumulated from their running.
A legend once said “Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. The hands can’t hit what they eyes can’t see”
-Muhammad Ali
And then Mike tyson said fuck that.
And got knocked the fuck out
what's crazy is that Muhammad Ali was still strong
@@Rahul_SastryAnd that’s exactly why he’d lose to Ali. He even admitted he would lmao
@@thisfeatureissostupid Because Muhammad Ali is a big man.
“Sonic vs knuckles a epic event”
-wise man
I like how you can tell that Red is an experienced fighter and fought speedster before. He quickly got him airborn by punching the ground, knew to back punch when the speedster tried to attack him from behind after blue used his speed to get behind him. Make sudden attack with his head punch to dong give blue reaction time and knew when to time his attack when blue got anime fast.
this is one of the most underrated and best comments i've seen all month. Give this man more likes.
So by what you’re saying Tengen slams Shinobu?
@@tokisaki_Kurumi_Xo I have absolutely no idea what you are refering to.
@@tokisaki_Kurumi_Xoyes easily tengen=gyutaro gyutaro>shinobu neg diff💀
Sonic vs Knuckles be like:
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Yeah, and I think sonic won that fight in the anime, not the movie, but in the movie he did lose SOJA
BRO YES😂😂
@@ManuelElumba-z1csonic isn’t an anime
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That was the best 20 second thing I seen in a while
This was so nostaltic. Straight out of the '00s. Well done!
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i like how speed isn’t exactly weak and strength isn’t exactly slow they both have quite a bit of both but focus more on one than the other
This. This right here. 100% facts.
Thanks for making this, it will be my sample for fighting scenes
This is basically sonic vs knuckles but if they were stick figures
This is honestly amazing, animating two different speeds while keeping the motion smooth is an achievement!
This is basically Flash vs Bane and I love it
Finally a decent comparison. Everyone I've seen either has strength be completely unphased, or has speed blitz instantly.
Either that or speed doesn't take advantage of their main thing and loses because of it. (Logan wink wink nudge nudge)
Contrary to popular belief but Strength and Durability aren’t the same thing
If you understood a little about physics you would know that speed is force. If a character can move at super sonic speed, he must have greater resistance against the air attrition.
Not to mention the impact force that a punch at the speed of sound (or more) can cause. What's the point of being super strong but not having enough speed to make a big impact?
Even if you concentrate all your strength in one arm, if your punch is very slow, it won't do anything to your opponent.
@@Regador_Inutil nah you left that man speechless
@@Regador_InutilAlso the Red guy.. if you are strong enough to hit the floor and make a shockwave capable of lifting your opponent without suffering any major damage then, I'll safely say that he's pretty durable so:
Red = Big Strenght/Power/Destructive Power and Durability
Blue= Speed/Reflexes, Accuracy/Precision and punching middle power
@@Godoudama Mathematically, it is impossible for something to have destructive power if it does not have speed. According to physics, speed has greater destructive power.
Superhuman physical strength just gives you the ability to lift and pull weights beyond the ordinary.
If you are super fast, in addition to having tons of air at thousands of kilometers per hour hitting you like something entering an atmosphere, you have faster cells too.Therefore, your regeneration capacity would be greater because you are accelerated. You still have more adaptation speed. Your training would take effect faster, your body can handle much more extreme things than someone super strong. So naturally, you super fast would be stronger, with greater impact power and greater endurance than someone who has more strength.
Just think, if you could move at the speed of light, not only would time stand still for you (because the speed of time in the perception of light is zero), your punch at the speed of light could destroy a planet.
Speed: I punch at the speed of light!
Strength: I punch with the mass of a black hole.
Unfair😭
speed wins...literally doesn't matter you punch with the strength of a black hole
The speed one can also do the same.
That's simply how physics work, the faster you move with a mass the more power you have
So if you move with speed of light and you have let's say 70kg of mass, you could easly destroy the strength guy in matter of a milisecond
simply due to:
1. Amount of punches
2. The strength of each would be applified by the speed of the impact
3. Speed > Mass
@@SagreChinto nah , dont bring in physics in this after saying all this shi. You buggin on the very basics. NO OBJECT with mass can attain speed of light and also, light doesnt get past through black hole and black hole's near infinite gravity is much greater than the power obtained by assuming light speed punches with mass.
@@Narcissistic.nAz_i dude
did you read the primal comment?
"Speed: I punch at the speed of light!"
So we from the very beggining ignore the rule that no object with mass can attain speed of light
i still believe speed > strength, you aint no surviving 10000000 punches in matter of 1 second
@@SagreChinto listen , yk if you need smth with mass to reach light speed , youll need infinite energy (acc to einstein) , so , saying that someone has punches at speed of light would mean that he got infinite energy and do you understand how much big of a hax infinite energy is. If you allow this , then there's no room for any question , that guy will rule the multiverse or shi, but if wanna abide the laws of physics then you gotta decrease the mass of your fists gradually as they approach light speed and once there , they'll become massless so wont hurt anyways. Ik that black hole is also like a glitch in the unvierse but atleast it is possible and idk wtf this guy means by comparing power to a blackhole, its just have fking huge gravity so, you wont be able to punch or even move your fist and just attract people towards you.
The fact that the red stick was able to land shots in the first place is impressive asf
I wish I was as good as you when it comes to animating. Bang up job, my guy!
As the great Conor Mcgregor said "timing beats speed" and he sure had great timing, managing to land 40% of his punches against such a fast target shows his amazing skill.
Ah yeah, he really showed his skill when he beat up that random old man
how did he show that skill when he got demolished by khabib
@@yes-qw6om i was talking about the power stick guy not conor himself, if you look at the video the power guy throws 10 attacks towards the speed guy and he manages to land 4 of them.
@@julianfalken8861power it only takes a one time hit.. just one! But when sword fight or gun fight speed wins..
@@amschelco.1434 i mean power is still not the most important thing when it comes to regular fighting, on top of that the power was not really what i was praising this random stick figure for. More so the sticks timing and accuracy which like conor says always beats speed. That even goes for guns and swords. You can be the fastest quickdraw but if you cant hit your target what does it matter? Same thing goes for sword fighting
In most games I put my stats into hp. Surprisingly makes me op everytime. And if you think I deal no damage then you’d be surprised that the damage on my builds is very good as well xD
That's why it's important to be well rounded because if speed had a little more strength he would easily beat strength nuff said
Doesn't need it, speed comes with extra strength (velocity and whatnot).
@@shinjutsutruth5078 understandable
but it would be really hard to precisely hit every punch while being super fast
and strength comes with extra defense
Strength doesn’t equate durability
i like how they actually have their pros and cons. pretty nice animation dude, keep it up.
Yeah but normal speed would win
@@titanus261No. Proper Timing beats Speed. If you can’t land your hit it won’t matter how fast you are. And if someone can predict your moves and is stronger then one hit will be more devastating than 1000 light hits.
@@edwinsolis5710 nope, what you seems to forget is the fact that strength doesnt equal to durability to body durability, while to be fast your muscle and skin must be extremely strong and durable, also speed affect greatly the his power, the faster you are the most devastating you are.
Also another thing, in this video, that guy is just doing bunch, bunch, bunch of useless movement, he could have just stayed in front of him and dogded his attacks cause if he's fast enough to do all that, he must be fast enough to also dogde all of his attacks and punch him in jaw and knock him out cold because the brain tend to not like fast movement in the head.
3rd point, even if we take durability in account, timing would mean absolutely nothing if he the strength guy doesnt use a trick to slow down the other guy, remember that he move 10 times his own length before the other could finish throw his fist, he could just dogde it up at any moment if this was realistic.
Yes the strength guy would one shot him but he cant do it if he cant even land a proper hit where the other can do excessive damage over and over again and knock him out cold in seconds.
@@edwinsolis5710so the strong dude gets a brain but the speedster doesn't? Sure timing can beat a speedster but that is if the speedster doesn't know how to think. If the strong dude can predict what the speedster will do what makes you think the speedster can't do the same thing 💀
Exactly what I've been thinking.@@adhf158
This is truly a sonic vs knuckles moment
Really cool!
Loved the personality and choreography of this animation, great work, man!!
Both things are really very important for a true martial artist and soldier .
Very true, my good fellow Internet Surfer.
@@lilwicked4014 What do you mean by internet surfer ?
@@LOWW4orand5orboth it means you also use the Internet. We both travel from place to place on this digital plane, learning what we can, and sharing what we know.
@@lilwicked4014 Ok
bro thats some of the smoothest and best animations that ive even seen
Love how the strength isn't a complete idiot and actually make full use of his strength's capability and adapting to the speedster's movement
0:07 after witnessing blue's speed, he immidiately adapts by using an unorthodox attack which is punching the floor so fucking hard that the enemy gets shot up. Blue could not react to that, because again he didn't expect him to be THAT powerful
0:17 he quickly adapts to the pattern of the opponent, when blue went all out with his speed he had a very noticeable pattern by going left and right constantly attacking his front and back.
Red quickly took advantage, when he got hit at the front, he immidiately positioned his body to face his back and threw a punch. Knowing that Blue would end up there
That is a good analysis
In the end neither strenght nor speed won, it all came down to skill
Speed: Can double damage because of how fast you hit your opponent.
Strenght: Has more counter damage and can counter speed by using the opponents speed as advantage.
Every single one of Genos' fights ever:
I remember these.. Back when Newgrounds was the sickest platform on the internet for upstart digital artists, and those Stickfigure websites soaked up hours of our time.
Newgrounds will always hold a special place in my heart. May it live on. o7
This really boils down to Velocity vs Mass.
This is what it’s like being a sonic main.
hand speed and traveling speed can be very different, so speed doesn't necessarily have extremely high hand speed. their speed seems more based around traveling speed.
also that final punch landed as a counter to someone traveling that fast, no wonder that ended the fight
Pierce still has that dawg in him, this animation reminds me one of those classic side view perspective "Color vs color" fighting videos when i was younger, this is incredible to see in these day and age
unironically what i grew up with, loved watching those before
especially the shock series
@@peirceanimations6596 yeah man, ahh the memoriess
@@peirceanimations6596agreeable
Finally the small/fast > big slow cliché breaks
One thing I always wished was for someone to portray super speed more realistically.
The speed of someone like The Flash is weird when you think about it, because they never have to worry about the downsides of too much speed.
The built up momentum not letting your body stop or change directions.
Casually breaking the sound barrier without the sonic boom obliterating your surroundings.
Hitting Mach 6 without the friction of the air burning you.
Don’t even get me started with the friction of the ground. The soles of your shoes would be molten by the time you eventually stop (assuming they’re still on).
In a fight like this, where the speedster gets reckless and starts dashing, it’s natural they get screwed up by running into their opponents attacks. They literally can’t stop what they started. 😂
They explain it all with speedforce and all, but it bothers me that they get the upside of it all without the downside
Ok but, one thing I still don’t get is, can’t the Flash can’t just, phase through most attacks? Especially if the flash was in this fight. He can just phase through any physical damage, or am I wrong?
Well you see writers dont know math and physics. Due to a deadline and the fact that writing is not easy. Since you gotta worry about other shit, instead of taking time to calculate their characters strength and speed
who cares bro its not meant to be realistic
@@Seinsmelled realism provides an organic source of conflict and inspires creative solutions from the characters, which helps give more depth to one’s writing, and avoid writer’s block or plot holes.
Strength and Speed is great, but nothing beats Durability
Isn’t endurance kinda like durability or my brain is messed up
@@Amongusyourmom Endurance is completely different than durability. A large misconception
You earned yourself a sub simple animation but nice combat and smoothness.👏
“Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth” ― Mike Tyson
A speedster without strength, like in the comics, is just impossible
THATS STICK NODES? DUDE YOUR VERY GOOD AT ANIMATING!
Absolutely clean as always brother
I like the idea of random factors in a fight being put into a human body and just duking it out. We love this! ❤
That's very, very smooth, I want to animate like this!
its been a while since ive seen your stuff pop up in my recommended but god damn did you improve!
you sure did also improved with the sick music :D
thanks bro
"Just because you're fast, that doesn't mean you have a better sense of timing than your opponent" -someone I know
Speed will always win if used properly
Rushing towards someone at high speed is basically a super strength punch
Depends on how much stronger you are or how faster the opponent is. The precision to hitting vitals will probably play the biggest role
Unless your opponent is like, abnormally strong
False
@@Polygonfella1662 nah
When these two combined, they can make ULTIMATE power.
"if you are fast you can punch so many times, but if you are strong you have to punch once."
Speed would win due to just being able to dodge the only downside is getting hit once from strength would weaken them a lot making the speed probably a bit slower depending on their durability
speed would also have good durability wouldnt it?
@@whotookjasidnah strength is easily more durable. Look at the start when he was lugging his body around
@@Mrstireast im not talkin about the video im talking about logic
@@whotookjasid yeah but speed needs to be lighter to go faster in general so the logic still applies
@@Mrstireastspeed would technically be just as if not more durable
Its not about speed of punches, its about speed of mind.
Bro this is like the combat gods, and i appreciate and Amazed & impressed by your animations!
for everyone thinking the faster one has more power because of "physics" dont understand that the difference is mass is more important hence weight classes in combat sports.
you can even observe a significant increase in knockout rates in high weight classes than lower despite the lower being much faster.
How to beat anyone with super speed 101: wait for the winter season because they will slip on ice at high speeds because they are seasonal superheros.
This is a really creative animation,and the combat gives me anime vibes!
Strength is better because you can just spam ground slam and deny the enemy of their speed via denying them their footing, allowing you to lead into easy air juggle comboes
This isn't a game buddy
Screw it. I run on air
@@coems12981 This isn’t real either
@@destroyerofworlds4663 your not him buddy, the video is based off when someone who is good at speed and someone who is good at strength fights
@@coems12981If it isnt a game, then what is it? Both the stick men are doing pretty much impossible things on there, I'd say its just a really good anim
Red: "do I look like I need YOUR power?"
If you were thinking realistic speed is better because it allows you to punch faster and deal more dmg plus more speed gives you massive weight and intern strengthens your attacks.
While strength you have to be really lucky to catch a speed person and land a good hit or accurate as hell
Fr
“ *Precision* beats power and *Timing* beats speed ”
@@JustAGuyWhoComments13Not all people have good precision and timing
@@Oh-hell-naw ik
@@Oh-hell-nawbut it was still beat it in general
that one scene in Sonic Prime: 0:08
What scene
@@gamingwithyokiepokie0590 the sonic vs shadow scene
Aren't we gonna talk about how smooth it is?
At first glance, the animation appears to be a straightforward depiction of a physical confrontation between two opposing forces. The blue stickman, embodying the essence of speed, launches a swift and relentless assault on the red stickman, who stands as the embodiment of strength. The rapid movements of the blue stickman illustrate the undeniable advantage of speed in the initial stages of the encounter. It is a demonstration of the immediate impact and effectiveness of agility in overcoming obstacles and gaining an upper hand in competitive situations.
However, as the narrative unfolds, a pivotal moment arises when the red stickman delivers a single powerful punch, halting the relentless advance of the blue stickman and ultimately securing victory. This decisive action symbolizes the enduring power and resilience inherent in strength. Despite facing overwhelming speed and agility, the red stickman demonstrates that brute force, when wielded with precision and determination, can be a formidable adversary.
The confrontation depicted in "Strength vs. Speed" transcends the realm of mere physical combat, delving into deeper philosophical questions about the nature of human capability and the dynamics of competition. It prompts reflection on the value of resilience and perseverance in the face of adversity. While speed may offer immediate advantages and opportunities for swift maneuvering, it is strength that sustains endurance and resilience over the long haul.
Moreover, the animation serves as a metaphor for the dichotomy between different approaches to achieving success. In a world that often celebrates quick victories and instant gratification, the red stickman's triumph serves as a reminder of the enduring value of patience, discipline, and unwavering determination. It underscores the importance of harnessing one's inner strength and tapping into reservoirs of resilience to overcome obstacles and achieve lasting success.
Beyond its allegorical significance, "Strength vs. Speed" also raises questions about the interplay between physical attributes and mental fortitude. While the red stickman may possess raw physical strength, it is his strategic thinking and calculated response that ultimately secures victory. This aspect of the animation speaks to the importance of intellect and adaptability in navigating challenges and achieving goals.
Furthermore, the juxtaposition of strength and speed invites contemplation on the notion of balance in human endeavors. Just as the red stickman's overwhelming strength is tempered by the blue stickman's agile movements, so too must individuals seek equilibrium in their pursuit of excellence. Striking the right balance between strength and speed, resilience and agility, allows for a harmonious integration of diverse capabilities and enhances one's ability to thrive in a dynamic and competitive environment.
In conclusion, "Strength vs. Speed" transcends its simple stickman animation format to offer profound insights into the nature of human capability and the dynamics of competition. Through the dynamic interplay between the red stickman, symbolizing strength, and the blue stickman, representing speed, the animation explores themes of resilience, perseverance, and the balance between physical prowess and agility. It serves as a powerful reminder of the enduring value of inner strength, strategic thinking, and the pursuit of balance in the face of adversity. Ultimately, "Strength vs. Speed" invites viewers to reflect on their own approaches to challenges and endeavors, inspiring a deeper appreciation for the multifaceted nature of human capability.
Bruh.
I am 99% sure you are either a robot or you intentionally took this way too seriously, but the beauty and accuracy of this comment stands regardless. Well done.
Why did I read all this?
Strength here was often matching Speed’s speed so it was never fair, when strength beats speed it’s not how it was displayed here, but more like what Omni-Man did to Red Rush.
Also, it didn’t help that speed’s attacks seemed to do virtually nothing
LilMayo what are you doing here?
@@AndersonMallony-EricCFWho’s LilMayo?
@@donnyannessa654Its so basic and predictable. Hell even yba ai has more creative attacks
Omni Man is faster than red rush. The show nerfed Omni man or buffed the heros in that fight. Comics he didn't even get touched.
Canonical fight between Sonic and Knuckles
Ishowspeed vs ishowstrength
Sonic vs. Knuckles
Miyata vs. Takamura
It's like a reminder of Sonic VS Knuckles.
This is actually an interesting topic. I've always had visuals of it in my head, but never did I think it would be put into an animation🤨
Hey, how many frames per second do you animate?
20 - 24
this one was made in 24
It's like a movie Sonic 2 all over again
Remember folks: timing beats speed
and precision beats strength
Both are lies. If my speed is vastly superior, you could never hit me. I would see all your moves.
Legit speedblized.
You'd get speedblized, you can't see or even hit your opponent?
Nuh uh, if you're too damn fast and I managed to see your patterns and hit you with a perfectly timed punch, you would walk right into it and the damage is doubled due to your speed. If you think you can dodge it easily with reaction time then you don't know what the first law of motion is@@Mytakesarepeak
Bro I don't get how people edit so smoothly like this💀
Red vs Blue? Why am seeing Knuckles vs sonic
You'll hear how speed is always more important than strength, those people haven't been punched in the face.
that depends because speed is the basis of all strength. A wall is only as strong as you walk or run into it so without any momentum or speed generated strength cannot exist. A bullet for example is only as deadly as it is because of speed and strength or weight is pretty minimal. For a punch in the face to hurt you optimally need good technique and momentum aka speed in this case for it to do any damage
Strength doesn't equal durability, the higher your speed is the higher is strength of attacks, so yeah without speed strength is non existent
no matter how fast you are you cannot outrun the monster
"Fast movements is useless when your movements are too predicatble"
-Tzu Sun
Probably not a real person, or a quote from anyone, but it is a good one, so I'll probably use it or at least remember it. 👍
Even if they are predictable, fast is always difficult to stop. Messi😊
If speed includes reaction speed then Speed > Power until the powerful person's attacks start doing area damage. The faster the fast person gets, the more impossible it is to hit them so they will always whittle you down no matter how strong you are. However, if the strong person can start dealing enough damage to the entire area that the fight is taking place in then speed will have no usage, you can't dodge the explosion of a planet (although in that case, it would definitely be a tie)
Also, speed gives strength through the laws of motion. Force = mass x acceleration. I would assume that strength gives large muscles which have high mass while keeping the same acceleration but speed grants acceleration. Even if speed did not grant super acceleration, human running acceleration is 3.51m/s squared which is around 8 miles per hour per second. Not bad as it wouldn't take long before you start generating enough speed to completely decimate anyone.
There is a pretty big problem with this equation, however. If we assume that the force generated is pretty much the same between powers and that the only change is their respective values then we get a few problems. 1st is that the strength user would weigh one hell of a lot which either implies a VERY high density of muscle fibers like what should be happening in this video or the guy would be massive (godzilla style). The 2nd problem is that "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" which means that applying a force in one direction causes a backwards force of the same magnitude. In other words, if either side were to land a blow, they would have to be resistant enough to withstand aforementioned blow. The likely outcome of this fight is the speed user begins to build up speed while dodging attacks from the strength user and eventually decides to go for the kill. Upon landing the blow, only some of the power actually lands. Probably enough to kill the strength user but the cost would be the speed user's entire arm as a best case scenario (further damage might be caused depending on the skill behind the punch). Arguably, the speed user could sacrifice a finger to whip the strength user, causing less damage but it could still be fatal to the head. However, the speed user would then take a long time to decelerate as stopping suddenly would obliterate them. If the strength user landed the punch instead, they would also destroy themselves (if I were them, I'd user Deku's strategy from my hero academia and sacrifice fingers for a blast of pressure).
In conclusion, it's likely that no one would win this fight. Speed is too fast for strength to hit but neither can land a hit if they want to stay fully intact. Mutually assured destruction
ALL FALSE. Power>>>>>Speed still. No it isn’t impossible to hit them and that’s all false
No it wouldn’t be a tie
Strength would win
Speed doesn’t give strength dude. All false.
All false and it isn’t what should be happening
Basically any Souls-like game. Either you get two dozen perfect strikes making use of speed and evasion, or prepare to be flattened.
Speed can throw a lot of attacks, but strength only has to hit their opponent once to deal lasting damage. Quality versus quantity
What if speed had martial arts then what’s strength gonna do?
@@CarlosVasquez-fn1syWho says strength doesn't have "martial arts"?
And what do you mean by martial arts? Martial arts is an EXTREMELY broad term. Both boxing and fighting with an axe are martial arts.
@@Trolhgspeed would still win
would is a factor, speed lost this time though@@avoidthis2746
Realistically if someone was that fast they'd have reaction speed even faster than their movement speed, same goes for every living creature. Speed would beat strength purely on being able to dodge every single attack thrown at them. Plus strikes at that velocity would pack a punch even if the person wasn't particularly strong.
Strength still had good reaction speed, and speed had good striking strength. You can't compare these two attributes and have (stick) people portray them, it doesn't work.
Still was pretty fun to animate.
How the flash vs Superman would play out
What do you use to animate? Ever considered making a tutorial?
sticknodes, but of course tutorials don't do much, mostly just practice and coming up with your own style.
New Sonic movie looks dope
“Umm achtually a speed of that magnitude would generate power, or in this case, “strength” probably the same as red”
I have learned several things in my time as a fighter. Speed is equal to strength. The faster your hit is, the more powerful it is.
It’s always cool to see a really strong character fight a really fast character, but I’ve never seen a really strong and fast character fight a really strong character and really fast character at the same time
It's all fun and game until a strength guy use his brain.