Uncovering the TRUTH Behind Lady Maria's Tragic Fate - Lore and Story Explained in Bloodborne
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024
- In Bloodborne, something happened to Lady Maria in the Astral ClockTower - but what?
In this video, we'll explore the lore and story behind Lady Maria's tragic fate, and reveal the truth behind her demise. This information will help you to understand the game better and shed new light on some of Bloodborne's key mysteries!
I made this video way back in the day. The video is not entirely correct and will be remade in the future one day.
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Btw, I made this Maria lore video before there was cut content discovered on BB and before I understood the story fully :)
This was years ago and you still return, nice
@@narakabladepointplayer1 :)
“Try tongue, but hole.” The deepest lore.
I think the suicide its the most likely scenario, but i love your theory
Thanks!
To me, the theory is more realistic, I can see that happening.
I really like the idea that the Great Ones might have manipulated Ludwig into doing things in their favor against their enemies. I would love to see what your interpretation of Ludwig's story is, since there isn't alot known about him in-game :)
Thanks! :D
I do love Ludwig, I listen to his theme every day!
Well it's one of the best Souls-Themes ever haha
Good video, don't agree with your portrayal of Ludwig though. He's one of the few characters that comes across as a pretty straightforward guy who wanted to do good but it ended up going wrong (similar to Artorias.)
If anyone is the devious one, it's Maria. I don't think she's protecting the hamlet, she's hiding it, keeping it secret because she doesn't want anyone (including herself) to see what she did to the villagers/kos. She's ashamed of her actions, in denial. She throws away her weapon and creates a new persona (Lady Maria) but she can't runaway from the truth. She's a cold blooded killer, so she does what she does best, kills. Only this time, she is her own target.
Or maybe she made fun of the Moonlight sword and Ludwig got annoyed. All up to interpretation.
Been on a Bloodborne kick lately when I stumbled onto this vid. A novel explanation though the best rebuttals have already been made.
Though if we were going to stay on this line of thought that Maria was murdered, I think Brador would be the best suspect. He's dogged and ruthless in protecting the Healing Church's dirty secrets. Also, he's wearing his friend as a hat, so we know he's crazy.
:) yeah lol it's an old vid.
The Harrowed set reads (can be found on a dead hunter in the hamlet)
"Certain Church hunters obfuscate their identities and slip into the nooks and crannies of the city.
This is the garb that allows these harrowed individuals to go unnoticed.
These hunters are keen to early signs of the scourge, serving as a first line of defense against its outbreak.
Or perhaps, when the time is right, they find signs of the scourge WHERE THERE ARE NONE. It just goes to show, the corner beggar is not always who he seems."
This suggests to me they thought it was a beast scourge breakout and decided they would slaughter them all for preventative measures. That's how good hunters (no pun intended) like Maria made the mistake of participating in this.
i love the pleasant and comforting piano accompaniment to the horrific imagery. either genius or out of touch either way A+
I can tell a lot of work went into this. The ending was glorious, along with the music it legit gave me goosebumps. And now my head is spinning thinking about what if Ludwig killed Maria as she slept :O
Thanks so much!!! Glad you liked it! :)
Butchimus O:
ah, but maria threw her rakuyo down the fishing hamlet's well. she would have had to know about its existence. and ludwig wasn't an assassin; if anyone were tasked with doing that, it'd be simon, considering he *tells* you to kill her.
This vid goes hard, saw it a couple of years ago finally found it again. Thank you sinclair
>try tongue, but hole
"A corpse should be left well alone"
The fanmade comic, Lady Maria & The Old Hunters provided great input into Maria's childhood and why she wanted to leave Cainhurst. Among other things.
You know what? Had I not been convinced by vaati and the rest of the rest community that Maria killed herself than I would have totally believed this one. It does make sense in a way and the way you presented just makes it THAT more believable. Time to check some of your other old videos now, especially if they are as good as this one
Aw Ty!
Well, since we now know that Simon is the reason for her death in the Astral Tower (cut content).. it leaves open to interpretation her feelings of guilt towards the fishing hamlet.
What I find interesting is how a Hunter dies, yet remains there.. for the player toACTUALLY kill her. And since the doll feels her death, she was actually trapped in the nightmare until that point. Oh nightmares, what a wonderful abstract concept that was created for this game.
Makes me wonder if for Simon, she is dead, but not for the player.. and she remains in the nightmare for anyone that visits but hasn't slain her him or herself.
Hey if you're interested in more Maria lore, you can find info here
Doll Lore : ruclips.net/video/NiFgBw29yNI/видео.html
Maria Lore: ruclips.net/video/9l9kUKxOmY4/видео.html
I can't really sum up all the info in a post, since the podcasts are pretty long lol but there's info on various things there.
I know your video is old, did you know that they have now recovered file that show Simon killed Maria? Might be a fun follow up video with some of the new cut content coming out this year.
hah YES!! BUT it could have been ludwig in a simon mask!
(also i had a lot of wine)
She also said a corpse should be left alone so she could also be referring to coss
3rd Favorite Soulsborne lady. Selen is #1.
Gehrman, Maria & the drunk-blood hunters are ordinary hunters not from the church hunters so that means they have no business with the church which is like no co-existed
It's quite a good theory, but i think that there too much fantasy in theory than the evidence, so i prefer thinking that she suicided herself because of gherman and the doll. But i liked the way you put ludwig
Thanks! Yeah, I use a lot of fantasy in the theories :)
That's a good thing, some theories are too difficult to understand that we need to use fantasy
Though, Simon, The Seeker of Secrets killed Maria. . . Poor Ludwig was trying to find the light T-T
I might have missed it during the explanation. Are you implying that Maria didn't eventually know of what happened at the fishing hamlet?
Also, you say the Maria was at the clocktower while Byrgenwerth acted in the hamlet, but that would mean that Gherman's hunters and Byrgenwerth in their prime would coexist with the Healing Church, as the Astral Clocktower is part of the Research Hall and the jail where Brador is, is refered as belonging to the Church.
And that ^ already doesn't add up with Ludwig meeting Maria, for he was a hunter of the Church.
Nice theories tho, I like how you narrate all this. Some thoughts on what I have mentioned?
Thanks!
Yeah, I think I need to work on the time line for BB as I'm not 100% certain of who coexisted with who...
But could it be that Ghermans hunters and the healing church co-existed at some poing? And then, after Lawrence left, the hunters of the healing church hunters emerged?
I think there might have been a brief period between Lawrence leaving Byrgenwerth and the Hunter's Dream being created when the Healing Church kinda existed but wasn't the force of law in Yharnam.
Lawrence and Gherman clearly knew each other and likely they summoned the Moon Presence in the, now, Old Abandoned Workshop, as a third of umbilical chord can be found there. Then Gherman gets trapped in the Hunter's Dream, the blood(?) of the Great Ones is used for healing diseases, the Scourge of the Beast appears and Ludwig's legion gets into bussniess, and Lawrence turns into a beast and somewhat of a martyr.
That's roughly what comes to mind right now.
What I can't put my finger on right now is what did Gherman's hunters hunt before the Scourage. Because the scourge of the beast clearly happened after the Healing Church came to be. They used Old Yharnam as a testing ground for the old blood, and it's said that that's where the Scourge began.
So... why there was a need for hunters, for example, before the events of the Fishing Hamlet?
Maybe I've lost perspective in all this and I'm forgetting something. Any insght on the matter? :D
(I love talking about lore)
Sorry, missed your first question!
Yeah, I was suggesting that there's a possibility Maria wasn't aware of the events which took place in the hamlet. Thought unlikely, I think it's an interesting theory :)
Sorry but I don't get it :( if it were Cainhurst those who did the baddies in the hamlet I would consider it, since the Rakuyo originates from Cainhurst; but probably Maria was involved in the matter and the regret drove her to suicide.
If people knew she was from Cainhurst and Annalise's immortality was remotely common knowledge in the Church, Ludwig would probably have known that cutting their throat wouldn't have done anything
This rabbit hole is growing deeper and deeper...
i dont get the replacement part. there is also no evidence for that,as there are many work shops and gehrman was simply the first of the hunters who crafted the trickweapons and the style of hunters on his own, there could be no replacement of that rank he had. Both were under laurences orders as he was the first leader of the church. Ludwig would likely be just a skilled fighter who became cursed by the blade(or another think), and later by the fishing hamlets curse to the hunters. All
the ludwig weapons talk about a fatefull fight against the other beasts, so i believe they are just manipulated warriors, without higher motives. Maria is also in the nightmare, so either she found a blooddrunk eye (which is unlikely because she was there while the curse was made) and found a amigdala or she was drawn to the nightmare (the dlc) as well, so she would have at least fighted against the inhabitants. either way nice theorie. coll that you also try bloodborne lore (favourite game by the way)
Thanks man!
Yeah, basically, I had a question that sparked this theory. My question was "why Ludwig?" as in "Why was Ludwig chosen to lead the Healing Church Workshop?". I figured there might be some manipulation to get the job. But for sure there are holes in this theory! :)
2:33 willem send those church hunters to kill kos out of their greed of knowledge
Our character wasn’t even a hunter of the healing church
Oh the things you've learned since this one Sin. Don't worry, we still believe Ludwig killed Maria 😂😂😂
i just found this channel and i love the content. keep up the great work;) i have to say its the small lore channels like kazzAramA and this one that make the most interesting creative theories
Thank you!!
As Ludwig being my favourite boss ever, naturally I want to defend him in this case. Origin-wise, Ludwig most likely started as a cleric/prospector, eventually finding the Moonlight Blade and returning to the surface after seeing his "guidance" with both the Blade and his Rune. This is when he somehow is promoted to "First Church Hunter", maybe through determination and fighting prowess? And thus commissioned BIG weapons after in the style of the Moonlight Sword also being big enough to slay bigger beasts, like ones found in the labyrinth. He also recruited and armed Yharnamites to defend themselves. Ludwig is quite obsessed with honour. All of the Sword Hunter badges describe him and his Holy Blades as being honourable knights of an age long past. Murdering Lady Maria is completely out of character for him, and not much to be gained. In the end, Lady Maria is a formidable hunter and interesting character but Ludwig just wins it for me. He is innocent as I see it. :p
Have you seen the hidden dialogue where he confesses though?!
@@SinclairLore I have not. Where can I find it?
@@sionnochusnicator1708 ruclips.net/video/LEAQHXpV8HM/видео.html
@@SinclairLore Clearly un-falsified proof of the crime. I stand corrected. Ludwig is a murderer. :p
Thank you!
Very interesting theory you have here. It departs rapidly from other theories suggesting that Maria part took at the slaughter and killed herself because of her guilt. Your theory however couldve explained what may have caused her death, and that would be Ludwig, as stated. Now, what if ludwig really did kill her and made it look a suicide in order to hide suspicion? Who knows tho... awesome theory btw. I really enjoyed the video!
Thanks! Yeah, this theory is probably way off base, but I had a lot of fun making it.
Thank you for your kind comment!
Nice theory but isn't nightmare only for hunters "crazed with bloodlust"? Those who lost themselves in the hunt. That would rule out the "not knowing" and most likely assassination part. I'm still quite sure that she took part in the slaughter but realized what is happening just after.
Yeah, you're right to be honest. It's an earlier vid where I kinda try to explore the lore. But it's for sure wrong. XD Though I still don't trust that Ludwig dude!
just found your channel, and I really love your videos!
Thanks Valerie!
How do we know the old hunter bone is Maria's? It says he on the description
Someone is jumping on the anticipatory BB 2 hype-mobile. Here's hoping for SOME sorta souls-like game amirite, my LORE(d)?
Help me understand. Why would ludwig kill maria?
'Cause he's sketchy.
Wow, that's pretty interesting..I never thought of Ludwig's visions also being under the influence of a Great One, I always assumed he was seeing the same sprites we see when freshly taking a hit that lets us know we can still regain some health. Which one are you thinking may be influencing him?
Thanks!
I'm not sure about which one tbh. I've been thinking about that a lot, but don't have a coherent answer yet :)
Sinclair Lore Haha right.. Months after last playing this I suddenly got interested in and can't stop myself from wondering about a certain part of the story and the Moon Presence's strange appearance that looks nothing like the Great Ones we see in the game, it literally looks like an undead beast whereas the others we see look completely alien and have a totally different type of skin.
yeah, the moon presence always seemed "unfinished" or undead to me. I wasn't sure whether it was a great one trying to regenerate itself through echoes, or perhaps it was formless Oedon trying to take shape.
Then again, some could say that we never really meet Great ones in the game, only their Kin. Perhaps all great ones look like the Moon Presence.
Sinclair Lore Idk, I haven't heard much about that, I've always had the impression that Kos and Ebriettas (Spelt wrong probably) were true Great Ones. I tend to think Oedon really had no part in anything and just wanted an infant. I don't believe the males were affected in Oedon Chapel and pretty much stayed the same (Dunno about the beggar, I've always sent him to the Clinic and he was already acting crazy before we meet him), only the females started to lose their minds so this is what makes me think that he wasn't interested in anything else but who knows, ants aren't capable of understanding why we do the things we do so I guess that'd apply with us and the Great Ones.
I'd like to try lore hunting but damn, it's hard for me to take it seriously on account for the fact that with most games there really isn't a hidden story, the devs may not have even completely thought something through. It'd suck to put so much effort into something only to find out later that there really were no questions to even have an answer for. I'm not saying there isn't one on DS or BB but with my luck I'd end up trying to answer the one thing that never even existed lol.
This is a great theory :)
Thanks!
I think she's drinking grape juice or blood.
Why not both?
From here comes ludwig kills maria?
yes :)
It's "cane-hurst" not "cayanne-hurst"
Kynehurst
the canonical spelling
I know Vaati is supposed to be the Souls lore master with an amazing voice, but the music you used combined with your soft tone , 100% better than Vaati. Great vid!
awww ty
Nice lore but please pronounce “Cainhurst” properly
your voice is too quiet for me, it's a bit difficult to hear what you're saying in some parts