The single biggest winner? Maryland. Why? They took a chance and got the you know what out of the ACC. Terps will be making &100m because of that decision
Maryland is making great money these days. However since Maryland left the ACC they have been winning virtually nothing. The Terps don't have a single rivalry in the Big 10 that means as much as their hoops rivalry with Duke.
I am a Penn St guy so I get that. No playing Pitt anymore. But Penn St is in a much better position then their former Eastern opponents Syracuse, BC and Pitt. Maryland is in the same position as us. Much better off in the Big 10
@@jmath1978 It is about survival. If you are not out of the ACC by 2031, your team is dead. Honesty, pay FSU nothing more than the current deal the next 6 years, and that is fine, just let us out by 2031. When that happens, SEC/BIG leave the rest behind.
It wasn't FSU administration! Its always been the Tobacco road BB schools who were the issue! The ran the conference and pushed BB ahead of FB! No way in the hell, you sign a 20 years tv deal! No conference in the last 40 years has signed a deal over 12 years. That 12 year deal was the Pac 10 and we all know what happen to the Pac 10!
You guys crack me up. I’ve been telling you for a year no FSU ambulances chaser was getting you out of any of your contracts. Yet for the last year you’ve been letting this guy with the clip on bow tie string you along. You signed a contract. You’re staying.
You had me until the end with finances. My family over 2 generations paid boosters fees. My seats were taken away and asked to pay well over double to get an unknown section. Then asked for NIL money, then asked for stadium funds. Didn't degrade those of us who put not only money but our lives into this program. We've been treated horribly.
Agree 100% and can claim with certainty that I have already seen my last FSU game in person, in Tallahassee. Florida State has LIED to so many of us and Ive reached the point where I will no longer contribute to Seminole Boosters. This situation is SHAMEFUL and an embarrassment to the thousands of loyal alumni and fans who donated nearly $100,000 over many years.
@pattgriggs3435 I'll go to games. But I'm buying tickets day of. Maybe one or two. But they're not getting the extra squeeze out of many anymore. Did that for too long
Stop listening to RUclipsrs that tell you what you want to hear. Even this episode seems like they are trying to minimize the situation. You will be in the ACC for at least 5 years if not through 2036... And that still doesn't mean that the B10 or SEC will be your landing spot. Definitely a positive spin on something that FSU has no control over.
@richardbrookins5406 ESPN has the grant of rights regardless if you go Independent or another conference. That is where I wish these FSU RUclipsrs would tell you the reality of the situation, instead of paint possible positive scenarios and sharing that only. Share the other side, that way FSU folks don't feel lied to.
Why in the world would I still continue to contribute when the University has shown zero loyalty to me? I've been totally priced out of my seats and because of the per sport fee I can't even consider going to baseball or basketball. I've been a season ticket holder since 74 and a Booser since 76. What I get by continuing is an expensive commitment and a chance to pay confiscatory concession prices. I want FSU to do well but accusing me of just being cheerleader is a load of crap. I'll miss the games and being with my friends but all my loyalty didn't even get me a thank you.
We will not be competitive for at least the next 6 years while being in the minor league (ACC). I'm not going to travel, spend time and money going to bush league (ACC) games. FSU and Clemson need to continue to file lawsuits otherwise we "the fans" will NOT be in the stands! I distain ESPN.
They had to try ... Instability could have trended their way but it didn't. The problem was all the FSU RUclipsrs giving you opinions and possibilities as fact because that was what you wanted to hear. Now they are changing their tune, but in the meantime you feel lied to...
The acc doesn't spread the sec' footprint . Many acc teams are already in the same tv market . From Florida all the way up to south Carolina. Clemson and Florida state are down right now.
FSU must demand a 2027 or 2028 release date as part of the compromise. The media draw and brand draw is a drop in the bucket compared to lost revenue. Also, FSU should not sign off on any full term clause and retain the right to an early buyout.
What is crazy to me is how no one is filing a class action lawsuit against espn/Disney over how they have created a monopoly given how much they influence determine the CFP, pay multiple conferences and teams for media rights and determine those rights including pay and media coverage, and purposefully preferring some conferences they pay and downgrade other conferences they pay? Of course they could argue they do not have sole ownership of all college football conferences and teams, but federal law doesn’t have to apply to only a single company when large amounts of money are involved and it is an extremely limited number of companies with control. Also, the fact they basically determine the CFP and how many teams get in per conference is obviously biased and they’re ruining college football.
This is because Disney is actually the British crown corporation and there's very little congress can do except pull federal funding from individual schools themselves, and that will cause a chit storm. DISNEY is Caesar, CFB is bread and circuses, the Colesium.
Here’s an idea (sorry if its long): Prior to ESPN extending the media deal, the ACC’s position was that a team could leave after paying the exit fee, but their media rights remained with the league. Due to the fact that there was no tv contract beyond ‘27, they couldn’t actually tell the courts (Judge Cooper asked) a number. Now that ESPN has extended it til ‘36, the ACC now can put an actual number on the buyout. FSU could have negotiated getting the league to reduce the GoR by 5yrs in exchange dropping the case. This then allows FSU to buy out the last few years on the GoR and leave with their rights.
Thats all fine but where is fsu going to go? Theres only 2 better options than the acc (big 12 would be a lateral shift, not vertical) and they aren’t interested in fsu
I only pay for winners……I don’t invest in losers…..only a dumb ass would invest their hard earned money and get nothing in return……..this is entertainment this is not the real world….and people like me who have money will spend it on a beach trip or Disney trip or really expensive cigars in an amazing atmosphere where i watch the game on a big screen and I can turn poor play off at anytime….I find no enjoyment in spending money to watch under coached under developed players coached by an overwhelmed in over his head coach…….and thats simply the facts!
“They did want us, they did invite us to join the SEC. Everybody thought we would join. In fact, I thought we would but our administration the president and others wanted the ACC, which really was better for us. It would have been hard wading through that SEC. Too many good teams in there, boy. Oh, gosh. Oh, that would have been some great ball.” - Bobby Bowden
Yep we should have went then. The ACC is such an incompetently run conference. They are so incompetent they can't even get their act together to throw that pos commissioner out on his azz where he belongs. We need a commissioner who is going to fight for the conference not one who feels we are out of the gated community. Phillips needs to go NOW!
No one is allowed out. UNC would have to engage in its own lawsuit and they haven't. The twitter theory going around is ESPN could simply move schools over to the SEC if they wanted to. If they thought there was a chance of losing UNC to Fox and the Big10
Well, the lawyers made out. I’m sure they saw a great opportunity to milk a client, use their emotion of being jilted, and told them, “Oh yeah, you need to sue!!!” FSU got used and they are going to be screwed for a looong time.
Good idea usually but in this case it was not one person getting butthurt. No one was butthurt. The whole board had a meeting and listened to the presentation of why it was necessary to do this.
Florida State president athletic department are absolutely mind-boggling for us to have seen them have great teams and win national championships that is over for a long long time. Very sad.
What are the chances. Fsu and acc agreed to a major reduction to get out immediately if they say to espn they are staying even though they are gone. Now with the extension espn is locked in, acc gets What they want a long term deal. And fsu dips this year for low money for helping acc out? Could acc and fsu actually teamed up on espn behind the scenes?
Taking money from academics to sponsor sports would be the end of it all. I wouldn't support that as a taxpayer or alumni. I'm already souring on CFB in general because of all the money and NFL Lite crap. I and several relatives have already given up our booster memberships and season tickets.
More of this is going to happen nationally as the economy gets worse across the board! People arent going to care about college football when they are starving! SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT are nice when you can afford it but thats becoming a dream now!😢
@@DoubleFriesNoSlawBut in your heart of hearts you know is not going to be okay as the economy worsens major league and college sports arent going to be making money as they used too! Entertaining as all of this is at some point real life is going to kick in!
Wetherford came out with all the bluster about leaving. FSU signed the grants agreement. Fast forward, FSU didn't have any takers (Big 12 yes), and FSU leadership saying that they didn't mean they were leaving. Worst season in 50 years, shit canned both coordinators and curb stomped by your state rivals. Simple solution. What happened to that private equity, buy out that exit fee? Your leadership at FSU sucks. Go Canes. Go away Noles
DONT hold your breath the economy will be in ruins by than just look at the economy currently nothing is going to bring property back no much how you hope!😂
I am probably missing something, but hard to imagine ESPN taking the chance of owing this money to the ACC until 2036 if there was ANY chance Clemson and FSU would NOT be in the conference? Let's be real, take out Clemson and FSU and the ACC is no longer a football conference... so there must be a lot we don't know about this. The ONLY thing that is certain is that the ACC is FINE with mediocrity, (other than Clemson & FSU)... the financial situation is a death sentence for being a conference that matters.
A FSU fan who truly is honest with themselves hand clap but this is also going to happen to every team in college football people are starving out here! How can they maintain these unrealistic payouts?
IN my opinion , yes, as this lawyer speaks, it will only be a nominal bump for premiere ACC teams at first, but money is only part of the equation, there is also the question of autonomy. If Clemson or FSU were to make a lateral move to the SEC, they would be chained dogs. They actually stand to lose more autonomy than if they try to make the ACC work as top dogs. I do not see Congress letting the B1G and SEC shut the playoffs door to other conferences, yet. A few more things have to be settled first. What this does is open the door for 3rd parties(strategic partners) to make up the monetaries gap that ESPN is purposefully trying to deprive the ACC of. No one has more interest in preserving or even increasing the autonomy of the ACC conference right now than partial member Notre Dame. What's to say? ND won't come up with a partnership that is even better than private equity coming in to be shot callers? Perhaps even a package that makes relying on playoffs participation payouts a non factor. Remember, this isn't just about football, but also about where to park 1000s of other non football athletes.
I still think ESPN is driving the realignment bus, and there's more to come on that front. As a fanbase, we need to stop being a bunch of Chicken Littles. YES, we are on the struggle bus, but we aren't riding it through to 2031. I see a negotiated amount for FSU, and our ACC full stop will be in 2027.
By 2031 we will be dead, even with the unequal revenue sharing from the ACC. The Big Ten and the SEC will be so far ahead that we won’t be able to compete, we’re fucked.
@@Almighty5-ww1klNo he sounds like a honest FSU fan! Im no hater but college football as a whole is out of hand and these payouts are not reasonable or sustainable! People are starving and loosing there homes and we are worried about how much our favorite universities are making when they want give a penny to you!😅
@ please tell me why FSU can’t go independent? With all of the options to sell your games nowadays? There’s so many different streaming services and networks. Don’t underestimate the value of of Florida State nationwide.
@@joewright219if FSU goes independent, which network is will to pay them? You can take ESPN off the list cause leaving the ACC is like giving the middle finger to ESPN. Fox Sports? They locked in with the B1G with a big contract already. Streaming services? At most they’ll get $10M compared to the $30M from the ACC. Going independent ain’t that easy. If you’re going to bring up ND, they been independent since day 1, they have a century advantage over FSU.
Declaring Independence doesn't solve the GOR problem sir. FSU could just say sign a deal with apple and tbs FSU wouldn't be allowed to keep the money from that deal legally for the next 11 years. There is no legal way around that. The whole point of leaving is to get more money not less
Yeah Im done with the NFl and college football is not that far behind! Just be done with it because FSU and the big 4 want make too many big moves from here on out the economy is about tapped out and so are these unrealistic deals!
College football was saved by this. Everyone that was bashing the SEC and B1G and how they were destroying college football is now mad because they aren't going to one.😂
@tallyrc You know what I mean. A lot of comments are mad, saying they wanted to leave the ACC. Where else are they planning to go other than the SEC or B1G?
@@noelramirez1551 I think the statement "the sec and big10" are destroying college football is true. While simultaneously believing that if we don't join the sec or big10 we don't survive either is also true. I believe that is the sentiment that's being expressed.
@@tallyrc yea it's every school for themselves so no hard feelings but this move keeping the ACC together for the meantime has to be seen as saving what's left of college football instead of destroying another Power conference.
Y’all FSU fans are delusional 😂 leave the ACC to go to a conference where you’ll be a bottom feeder for sure year in and year out. The U has more value and UF is building theirs. Neither big league conference wants ya and you wanna cry about it. Wouldn’t be in this position if ya would’ve hired Deon when y’all had the chance 🤷🏻♂️
@jmath1978 so, what you're implying is FSU can only be competitive in an inferior conference. FSU has never won any national championship and/or has been on a level to compete for one? Who is really delusional?
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MCDOLLARS! ESPN can wipe their (***) with that extension. We are obviously under some kind of sanction for being a bit too upset about our 13 - 0 season = alabama get's into the playoffs game. We need to leave the ACC 2 years ago... yeah, also I'm sure ESPN would love to see us play our upcoming season so they can hedge bets on how many points we will loose by, all the while getting paid twice. Let's not get started with the horrific schedule we were handed. ESPN - DON'T PEE ON ME AND TELL ME IT'S RAINING.
So I just watched this other video from the other day They are saying something a little different than you. Love to hear your take on it. ruclips.net/video/MH5Enz7nma8/видео.htmlsi=21jJP-vBEHRlT5J6
Yeah I watched that Big Mountain video the other day but from what I heard depending on ESPN it looks like if the SEC don't want FSU the BIG 10 does cuz they definitely want to be in the state of Florida so as they said on that show the BIG would definitely want FSU and Miami in that order so either way depending on what ESPN does since they have the most money FSU could still be in good shape cuz they could probably end up in one of the Power 2 conferences so still looking good for our Noles but again depending on what ESPN does since they are the ones running the train since they are the sports media KING we won't know until then but I'm optimistic and I think we end up in one of those conferences in the next year or two so here's hoping for sooner rather than later! 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
@@ATLieNOLENot going to happen sounds like alot of hope over in Tallahassee but hope stands for delayed disappointment with this economy really think about what you just said than let reality set in!😂😂
@@jmath1978 Well obviously you didn't read everything I said. What I said was that's what I heard on the BIG Mountain Podcast so everything I wrote is what they said, next time read the whole thing not the parts you just want to read genius! In "REALITY" no one knows exactly what's going to happen so if we stay in the ACC so be it. In the end it's all about money anyways and it seems the ACC will payout more money to the big brands of that conference such as FSU and Clemson due to the new ESPN contract. There's the reality check that sinked in awhile ago so I thought about it and still feel the same way, sorry hater! 🤷🏽♂️ I appreciate you loving my reply so much though, please stop by anytime Mr. Kool-Aid! 😂🖕🏼
@@ATLieNOLE I read what you said and your still hopeful as he'll aka delayed disappointment! Your big mad calling me a hater lol! With this Kool Aid man icon how could I be a hater? And the middle finger really? But you are a FSU fan so it makes sense many of you are just toxic! And a paragraph for FSU you need a hug!🤗🤗🤗 Thanks for calling me genius though it almost makes me look past the middle finger you showed me you must be a delightful person in real life!😘😘😘
@jmath1978 Sounds to me like you're BIG MAD over the middle finger, sorry hater didn't mean to hurt your feelings! Are you going to cry now?! 😂 I'm sure you'll get over it "genius!" Again, and this time understand what I'm saying here but as long as FSU gets more of a revenue share from the media rights by staying in the ACC due to the new ESPN contract then that's all we wanted since we bring the most 👀 to the TV when we play. If you have beef from what I said last night then go take it up with that BIG 10 podcast(BIG Mountain)show I heard all that from. I honestly could careless if you do or don't but obviously you have an opinion about it but your opinion seems like it's dripping in hate hence the name hater. Did I hurt your feelings Mr. Kool-Aid man, ahh poor baby can you ever find a way to forgive me you big ?! 😂 Why don't you stick to what you know and keep trolling everyone you can that doesn't say what you think is true. Again, thanks for all your encouragement cuz trolls are always fun to mess with and you are entirely to easy to upset. You'll be fine though cuz haters who love to troll and act like what they're saying is always the exact truth so I appreciate that hater. I hope you have a great day, Oh and by the way you forgot this again 🖕🏼I was holding on to that just for you. 😂😂 Thanks for stopping by and making no sense at all you big baby, cry a little more why don't ya! 😭😭
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College Football Addiction video that Doug and I referenced in this video: ruclips.net/video/9M04f5n9AeM/видео.htmlsi=l7N_7-Z2ZF3zpWN4
The single biggest winner? Maryland. Why? They took a chance and got the you know what out of the ACC. Terps will be making &100m because of that decision
Maryland is making great money these days. However since Maryland left the ACC they have been winning virtually nothing. The Terps don't have a single rivalry in the Big 10 that means as much as their hoops rivalry with Duke.
I am a Penn St guy so I get that. No playing Pitt anymore. But Penn St is in a much better position then their former Eastern opponents Syracuse, BC and Pitt. Maryland is in the same position as us. Much better off in the Big 10
@@richardsnyder842And that will also happen to Clemson and FSU greed is a terrible thing!😢
@@davidbrown386And they have made more money but once again no Football championships!
@@jmath1978 It is about survival. If you are not out of the ACC by 2031, your team is dead. Honesty, pay FSU nothing more than the current deal the next 6 years, and that is fine, just let us out by 2031. When that happens, SEC/BIG leave the rest behind.
If all this is true, we are up the creek. How stupid our admin and everyone looks. Very Disappointing!
It wasn't FSU administration! Its always been the Tobacco road BB schools who were the issue! The ran the conference and pushed BB ahead of FB! No way in the hell, you sign a 20 years tv deal! No conference in the last 40 years has signed a deal over 12 years. That 12 year deal was the Pac 10 and we all know what happen to the Pac 10!
@@arronfrazier7873 it is just why then start this legal battle. I just want out of this sorry conference so bad. Thank you for you reply
Playing in the ACC is the easiest path to the playoffs and FSU couldn't do that
@@MichaelHiers-eb4tcI mean if you get cheated out yeah you can say that
@@MichaelHiers-eb4tcwe had one bad year and now you tripping
You guys crack me up. I’ve been telling you for a year no FSU ambulances chaser was getting you out of any of your contracts. Yet for the last year you’ve been letting this guy with the clip on bow tie string you along.
You signed a contract. You’re staying.
You had me until the end with finances. My family over 2 generations paid boosters fees. My seats were taken away and asked to pay well over double to get an unknown section. Then asked for NIL money, then asked for stadium funds. Didn't degrade those of us who put not only money but our lives into this program. We've been treated horribly.
Agree 100% and can claim with certainty that I have already seen my last FSU game in person, in Tallahassee. Florida State has LIED to so many of us and Ive reached the point where I will no longer contribute to Seminole Boosters. This situation is SHAMEFUL and an embarrassment to the thousands of loyal alumni and fans who donated nearly $100,000 over many years.
@pattgriggs3435 I'll go to games. But I'm buying tickets day of. Maybe one or two. But they're not getting the extra squeeze out of many anymore. Did that for too long
Stop listening to RUclipsrs that tell you what you want to hear. Even this episode seems like they are trying to minimize the situation.
You will be in the ACC for at least 5 years if not through 2036... And that still doesn't mean that the B10 or SEC will be your landing spot.
Definitely a positive spin on something that FSU has no control over.
@@xmositoxc147 We can always go back to independent like we were before the ACC. Don't forget that.
@richardbrookins5406 ESPN has the grant of rights regardless if you go Independent or another conference.
That is where I wish these FSU RUclipsrs would tell you the reality of the situation, instead of paint possible positive scenarios and sharing that only.
Share the other side, that way FSU folks don't feel lied to.
Why in the world would I still continue to contribute when the University has shown zero loyalty to me? I've been totally priced out of my seats and because of the per sport fee I can't even consider going to baseball or basketball. I've been a season ticket holder since 74 and a Booser since 76. What I get by continuing is an expensive commitment and a chance to pay confiscatory concession prices.
I want FSU to do well but accusing me of just being cheerleader is a load of crap. I'll miss the games and being with my friends but all my loyalty didn't even get me a thank you.
We will not be competitive for at least the next 6 years while being in the minor league (ACC). I'm not going to travel, spend time and money going to bush league (ACC) games. FSU and Clemson need to continue to file lawsuits otherwise we "the fans" will NOT be in the stands! I distain ESPN.
FSU will always be a forever minor league team if they leave the ACC they will be the next Maryland!
FSU is dead and never coming back on any level in any sport. Just accept it and move on.
@@chesberger4474 Well you showed your intelligence level with such a stupid statement like that. Must be a candy cane.
Tens of millions of dollars wasted on lawyers for nothing. Should have used the money to get better coaches/players.
They had to try ... Instability could have trended their way but it didn't.
The problem was all the FSU RUclipsrs giving you opinions and possibilities as fact because that was what you wanted to hear.
Now they are changing their tune, but in the meantime you feel lied to...
The acc doesn't spread the sec' footprint . Many acc teams are already in the same tv market . From Florida all the way up to south Carolina. Clemson and Florida state are down right now.
FSU must demand a 2027 or 2028 release date as part of the compromise. The media draw and brand draw is a drop in the bucket compared to lost revenue. Also, FSU should not sign off on any full term clause and retain the right to an early buyout.
Good luck with that but with this economy that is highly unlikely!
If FSU President and AD caved without closing the disparity gap, then I’m withholding $$$ for the foreseeable future ….
GO ahead your going to need that money for a sandwich when this depression hits!😂
@@jmath1978 Cope lol
What is crazy to me is how no one is filing a class action lawsuit against espn/Disney over how they have created a monopoly given how much they influence determine the CFP, pay multiple conferences and teams for media rights and determine those rights including pay and media coverage, and purposefully preferring some conferences they pay and downgrade other conferences they pay? Of course they could argue they do not have sole ownership of all college football conferences and teams, but federal law doesn’t have to apply to only a single company when large amounts of money are involved and it is an extremely limited number of companies with control. Also, the fact they basically determine the CFP and how many teams get in per conference is obviously biased and they’re ruining college football.
This is because Disney is actually the British crown corporation and there's very little congress can do except pull federal funding from individual schools themselves, and that will cause a chit storm. DISNEY is Caesar, CFB is bread and circuses, the Colesium.
Here’s an idea (sorry if its long): Prior to ESPN extending the media deal, the ACC’s position was that a team could leave after paying the exit fee, but their media rights remained with the league. Due to the fact that there was no tv contract beyond ‘27, they couldn’t actually tell the courts (Judge Cooper asked) a number. Now that ESPN has extended it til ‘36, the ACC now can put an actual number on the buyout. FSU could have negotiated getting the league to reduce the GoR by 5yrs in exchange dropping the case. This then allows FSU to buy out the last few years on the GoR and leave with their rights.
Thats all fine but where is fsu going to go? Theres only 2 better options than the acc (big 12 would be a lateral shift, not vertical) and they aren’t interested in fsu
Is there a chance we accept this deal and then the next day say we are leaving the conference and write a check?
And also never win another national championship again go ahead and be sneaky!😂
Absolutely Doug. I go one step further and say its the "fans" that do nothing to financially help the program that b*tch the most.
Drives me nuts.
Always. Don’t donate at all. To anything. And want the most.
why donate to a program with players and staff that dont try their hardest when it counts?
I only pay for winners……I don’t invest in losers…..only a dumb ass would invest their hard earned money and get nothing in return……..this is entertainment this is not the real world….and people like me who have money will spend it on a beach trip or Disney trip or really expensive cigars in an amazing atmosphere where i watch the game on a big screen and I can turn poor play off at anytime….I find no enjoyment in spending money to watch under coached under developed players coached by an overwhelmed in over his head coach…….and thats simply the facts!
Thank you Doug, Fsu#1
“They did want us, they did invite us to join the SEC. Everybody thought we would join. In fact, I thought we would but our administration the president and others wanted the ACC, which really was better for us. It would have been hard wading through that SEC. Too many good teams in there, boy. Oh, gosh. Oh, that would have been some great ball.” - Bobby Bowden
Yep we should have went then. The ACC is such an incompetently run conference. They are so incompetent they can't even get their act together to throw that pos commissioner out on his azz where he belongs. We need a commissioner who is going to fight for the conference not one who feels we are out of the gated community. Phillips needs to go NOW!
Thank you guys for the info
UNC will also be a beneficiary too. Make no mistake about. None of this happens without UNC being involved in the mix
FSUs viewership numbers are in the toilet. The 2-10 destroyed those numbers.
Next year will tell....
No they weren’t moron.. look it up. Still top 3 in viewership
@@alienboyproduction number 4...not top 3.. Miami is number 1
@@jimmyjam5453 Why do you candy canes always have to listen to FSU shows? Jealous or wishful thinking?
Great show bro go canes! Good luck this year.
Help me out? NC is allowed out, but not FSU?
No one is allowed out. UNC would have to engage in its own lawsuit and they haven't.
The twitter theory going around is ESPN could simply move schools over to the SEC if they wanted to. If they thought there was a chance of losing UNC to Fox and the Big10
NC is stuck like chuck aswell! Its all over honestly!😢
Go independent and get your own TV deal. Your playoff money will be solely based on your season with sharing profit.
They don’t have the heart
So all this money into a program and billable hours and we have to wait until 2030???
In this country will be even more depleted in 2030 where is FSU going to go? Answer nowhere!
I am sure it will still be cheaper than what they have spent on legal fees.
Well, the lawyers made out. I’m sure they saw a great opportunity to milk a client, use their emotion of being jilted, and told them, “Oh yeah, you need to sue!!!” FSU got used and they are going to be screwed for a looong time.
Good idea usually but in this case it was not one person getting butthurt. No one was butthurt. The whole board had a meeting and listened to the presentation of why it was necessary to do this.
No matter how you try to spin it
Florida State president athletic department are absolutely mind-boggling for us to have seen them have great teams and win national championships that is over for a long long time. Very sad.
Dude has been wrong at nearly every turn during this fiasco.
Doug is wrong about viewership numbers Miami is number 1 and GT is number 2.
Then Clemson then fsu
@ChuckHeninger 👍
Is ESPN’s future guaranteed in today’s climate?
Non of these moves make sense in the correct climate and its not sustainable!
So all the lawyers and all that money spent and we are right where we were to begin with
Correct. Rohan was wrong from the get-go in what he predicted would happen.
What are the chances. Fsu and acc agreed to a major reduction to get out immediately if they say to espn they are staying even though they are gone. Now with the extension espn is locked in, acc gets What they want a long term deal. And fsu dips this year for low money for helping acc out? Could acc and fsu actually teamed up on espn behind the scenes?
Taking money from academics to sponsor sports would be the end of it all. I wouldn't support that as a taxpayer or alumni. I'm already souring on CFB in general because of all the money and NFL Lite crap. I and several relatives have already given up our booster memberships and season tickets.
More of this is going to happen nationally as the economy gets worse across the board! People arent going to care about college football when they are starving! SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT are nice when you can afford it but thats becoming a dream now!😢
I just want Doug to lie to us & say everythings gonna be ok lol
Really be your best friend on your worst day, huh?
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@@DoubleFriesNoSlawBut in your heart of hearts you know is not going to be okay as the economy worsens major league and college sports arent going to be making money as they used too! Entertaining as all of this is at some point real life is going to kick in!
Wetherford came out with all the bluster about leaving. FSU signed the grants agreement. Fast forward, FSU didn't have any takers (Big 12 yes), and FSU leadership saying that they didn't mean they were leaving. Worst season in 50 years, shit canned both coordinators and curb stomped by your state rivals. Simple solution. What happened to that private equity, buy out that exit fee? Your leadership at FSU sucks. Go Canes. Go away Noles
cant wait to get my $250....hello Big 12
DONT hold your breath the economy will be in ruins by than just look at the economy currently nothing is going to bring property back no much how you hope!😂
I am probably missing something, but hard to imagine ESPN taking the chance of owing this money to the ACC until 2036 if there was ANY chance Clemson and FSU would NOT be in the conference? Let's be real, take out Clemson and FSU and the ACC is no longer a football conference... so there must be a lot we don't know about this. The ONLY thing that is certain is that the ACC is FINE with mediocrity, (other than Clemson & FSU)... the financial situation is a death sentence for being a conference that matters.
Never getting out of the acc smh
A FSU fan who truly is honest with themselves hand clap but this is also going to happen to every team in college football people are starving out here! How can they maintain these unrealistic payouts?
We may want to think long and hard before we join any conference in the future. ND may have the right idea.
Well done gentlemen! 👏
(Appreciate the TBM mention)
So all this money into a program and billable hours and we have to wait until 2030??? Administration has failed us again so good luck getting money
Untill 2030? No forever have you sceen this economy?😅
IN my opinion , yes, as this lawyer speaks, it will only be a nominal bump for premiere ACC teams at first, but money is only part of the equation, there is also the question of autonomy. If Clemson or FSU were to make a lateral move to the SEC, they would be chained dogs. They actually stand to lose more autonomy than if they try to make the ACC work as top dogs. I do not see Congress letting the B1G and SEC shut the playoffs door to other conferences, yet. A few more things have to be settled first. What this does is open the door for 3rd parties(strategic partners) to make up the monetaries gap that ESPN is purposefully trying to deprive the ACC of. No one has more interest in preserving or even increasing the autonomy of the ACC conference right now than partial member Notre Dame. What's to say? ND won't come up with a partnership that is even better than private equity coming in to be shot callers? Perhaps even a package that makes relying on playoffs participation payouts a non factor. Remember, this isn't just about football, but also about where to park 1000s of other non football athletes.
I believe FSU, Clemson, Miami and UNC will get up to $70 million. The ACC Network factors in the payout
I still think ESPN is driving the realignment bus, and there's more to come on that front. As a fanbase, we need to stop being a bunch of Chicken Littles. YES, we are on the struggle bus, but we aren't riding it through to 2031. I see a negotiated amount for FSU, and our ACC full stop will be in 2027.
Hopefully, all works out.
Well than your delusional because the economy will be so bad that would be a even more horrible move!
Maybe we should start investing in baseball.
Fsu doesnt need to leave acc. Youll get money if you just stay competitive and dominate every year. plus sec is on a decline. Stay in your conference
ESPN just bent over the ACC.
All the ACC does is grab their ankles!!!
Big 10 Does NOT want you. SEC wants the Tarheels.
WVU FAN WHY CAN'T YOU JUST TELL ACC THAT YOUR LEAVING IN 2 YEARS AND HAVE A PLAN WITH THE EXIT FEE AND JUST LEAVE THE ACC. IS THIS NOT A OPTION?
I am not a college football fan.. I am an Nole. Will just go play golf on Saturdays if we are stuck here and delete espn.
This has nothing to do with fsu leadership. This is all ESPN. Cancel all espn subscriptions.
The ACC is still the best path to the College Football Playoffs.
Very true too bad many of the top programs dont see that!😢
By 2031 we will be dead, even with the unequal revenue sharing from the ACC. The Big Ten and the SEC will be so far ahead that we won’t be able to compete, we’re fucked.
By 2031 this country will be in more trouble than currently damn the football when your starving!🤗
Bullshit on your eyeballs comment, FSU football team is a total joke. You won 2 games this year! Do you want to rephrase your eyeballs comment?
If I were the ACC I wouldnt settle at all.
Stay or go as you will, and you pay in full if you leave.
If you stay you get NOTHING extra through 2036.
too big of a risk.
GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!
I also blame Mr. Rohan 100% 😂
Then why are you listening? Inquiring minds want to know.
We are STUCK and HUMILIATED
They are humiliating themselves
@@MichaelHiers-eb4tcyou must be a FSU hater
@@Almighty5-ww1klNo he sounds like a honest FSU fan! Im no hater but college football as a whole is out of hand and these payouts are not reasonable or sustainable! People are starving and loosing there homes and we are worried about how much our favorite universities are making when they want give a penny to you!😅
Go noles
Go independent
Ok 🙄
@ please tell me why FSU can’t go independent? With all of the options to sell your games nowadays? There’s so many different streaming services and networks. Don’t underestimate the value of of Florida State nationwide.
@@joewright219if FSU goes independent, which network is will to pay them? You can take ESPN off the list cause leaving the ACC is like giving the middle finger to ESPN. Fox Sports? They locked in with the B1G with a big contract already. Streaming services? At most they’ll get $10M compared to the $30M from the ACC. Going independent ain’t that easy. If you’re going to bring up ND, they been independent since day 1, they have a century advantage over FSU.
Declaring Independence doesn't solve the GOR problem sir. FSU could just say sign a deal with apple and tbs FSU wouldn't be allowed to keep the money from that deal legally for the next 11 years. There is no legal way around that. The whole point of leaving is to get more money not less
They used to be independent
Bring Jimbo back. Sorry not Sorry. It's our only chance at a Natty again 😂
He’s washed.
If FSU remains in the ACC through 2036, I’m DONE with FSU, and college football all together.
Yeah Im done with the NFl and college football is not that far behind! Just be done with it because FSU and the big 4 want make too many big moves from here on out the economy is about tapped out and so are these unrealistic deals!
College football was saved by this. Everyone that was bashing the SEC and B1G and how they were destroying college football is now mad because they aren't going to one.😂
Huh? Those things aren't mutually exclusive.
@tallyrc You know what I mean. A lot of comments are mad, saying they wanted to leave the ACC. Where else are they planning to go other than the SEC or B1G?
@@noelramirez1551 I think the statement "the sec and big10" are destroying college football is true. While simultaneously believing that if we don't join the sec or big10 we don't survive either is also true. I believe that is the sentiment that's being expressed.
@@tallyrc yea it's every school for themselves so no hard feelings but this move keeping the ACC together for the meantime has to be seen as saving what's left of college football instead of destroying another Power conference.
@@noelramirez1551Well I hate to break to you fellows but the whole system and its sports are going to fold look around you!😊
Y’all FSU fans are delusional 😂 leave the ACC to go to a conference where you’ll be a bottom feeder for sure year in and year out. The U has more value and UF is building theirs. Neither big league conference wants ya and you wanna cry about it. Wouldn’t be in this position if ya would’ve hired Deon when y’all had the chance 🤷🏻♂️
Haha, farting out your mouth again.
@@gcoj1577No he is telling the truth and nothing but the Truth!
@jmath1978 so, what you're implying is FSU can only be competitive in an inferior conference. FSU has never won any national championship and/or has been on a level to compete for one? Who is really delusional?
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MCDOLLARS! ESPN can wipe their (***) with that extension. We are obviously under some kind of sanction for being a bit too upset about our 13 - 0 season = alabama get's into the playoffs game. We need to leave the ACC 2 years ago... yeah, also I'm sure ESPN would love to see us play our upcoming season so they can hedge bets on how many points we will loose by, all the while getting paid twice. Let's not get started with the horrific schedule we were handed. ESPN - DON'T PEE ON ME AND TELL ME IT'S RAINING.
Its diffinetly pissing on FSU but this whole thing is done period!😢
So I just watched this other video from the other day
They are saying something a little different than you. Love to hear your take on it.
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Yeah I watched that Big Mountain video the other day but from what I heard depending on ESPN it looks like if the SEC don't want FSU the BIG 10 does cuz they definitely want to be in the state of Florida so as they said on that show the BIG would definitely want FSU and Miami in that order so either way depending on what ESPN does since they have the most money FSU could still be in good shape cuz they could probably end up in one of the Power 2 conferences so still looking good for our Noles but again depending on what ESPN does since they are the ones running the train since they are the sports media KING we won't know until then but I'm optimistic and I think we end up in one of those conferences in the next year or two so here's hoping for sooner rather than later! 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
@@ATLieNOLENot going to happen sounds like alot of hope over in Tallahassee but hope stands for delayed disappointment with this economy really think about what you just said than let reality set in!😂😂
@@jmath1978 Well obviously you didn't read everything I said. What I said was that's what I heard on the BIG Mountain Podcast so everything I wrote is what they said, next time read the whole thing not the parts you just want to read genius! In "REALITY" no one knows exactly what's going to happen so if we stay in the ACC so be it. In the end it's all about money anyways and it seems the ACC will payout more money to the big brands of that conference such as FSU and Clemson due to the new ESPN contract. There's the reality check that sinked in awhile ago so I thought about it and still feel the same way, sorry hater! 🤷🏽♂️ I appreciate you loving my reply so much though, please stop by anytime Mr. Kool-Aid! 😂🖕🏼
@@ATLieNOLE I read what you said and your still hopeful as he'll aka delayed disappointment! Your big mad calling me a hater lol! With this Kool Aid man icon how could I be a hater? And the middle finger really? But you are a FSU fan so it makes sense many of you are just toxic! And a paragraph for FSU you need a hug!🤗🤗🤗 Thanks for calling me genius though it almost makes me look past the middle finger you showed me you must be a delightful person in real life!😘😘😘
@jmath1978 Sounds to me like you're BIG MAD over the middle finger, sorry hater didn't mean to hurt your feelings! Are you going to cry now?! 😂 I'm sure you'll get over it "genius!" Again, and this time understand what I'm saying here but as long as FSU gets more of a revenue share from the media rights by staying in the ACC due to the new ESPN contract then that's all we wanted since we bring the most 👀 to the TV when we play. If you have beef from what I said last night then go take it up with that BIG 10 podcast(BIG Mountain)show I heard all that from. I honestly could careless if you do or don't but obviously you have an opinion about it but your opinion seems like it's dripping in hate hence the name hater. Did I hurt your feelings Mr. Kool-Aid man, ahh poor baby can you ever find a way to forgive me you big ?! 😂 Why don't you stick to what you know and keep trolling everyone you can that doesn't say what you think is true. Again, thanks for all your encouragement cuz trolls are always fun to mess with and you are entirely to easy to upset. You'll be fine though cuz haters who love to troll and act like what they're saying is always the exact truth so I appreciate that hater. I hope you have a great day, Oh and by the way you forgot this again 🖕🏼I was holding on to that just for you. 😂😂 Thanks for stopping by and making no sense at all you big baby, cry a little more why don't ya! 😭😭