FALCON VS S10! Chasing Personal Bests and This Happened...
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- We decided to go test at Dragway 42 before NPK to get some last minute hits in the cars after we fixed all of the S-10's problems we found. Thursday night, we decided to line the cars up side by side and put them on kill... and this happened.
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Props to Jeff for the time and energy he has put into the Dart
You can tell that he's an engineer
@@marc4086 100% That mill is sick.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jeff is absolutely awesome, smart, meticulous and has a beautiful shop. Just look at the Dart and he is teaching Tommy and Allison how to do it right.
Jeff is the MOPAR racer sportsman 'Standard' ... fear the HEMI !!!
I love how Billy is always thinking about racing. Right after he destroyed his engine, he asks Tommy why he thought the falcon went left.
Billy breathes, eats and shits racing. Im envious. Cuz if i could id be the exact same way...
@@garry3013 you cant if you cant find a real gf thats for sure! But most guys now days are just as bad!
@@anthonyking4387 what does having a real girlfriend have to do with it?
@@brandoncanatella320 i think he means you need a real understanding gf to breathe, eat, and shit racing......
@@v4vDrJoker 100%
BILLY, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT HOW MUCH YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED FOR YOURSELF IN SUCH A SHORT TIME, AND SUPPORTING YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS ON TOP OF IT ALSO, WAY TO GO BILLY!!!!!! BILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why are you yelling
Thats what we call rapid unscheduled disassembly! Can't wait to see the s10 come back even better!
I will say this right now, that little truck is one of the basest I have seen, Billy is one of the best drivers I’ve seen. If he was in a pro mod I think he would be one of the world’s top contenders
Don’t sleep on T2G. He’s damn good too.
Whoever thought when you first started racing the s10 that it would be knocking the door in the 4s?
Great job guys! I'll be glad when you get the Nova and the S10 back going 😁👍
He needs to get the nova back together and start cutting the truck up and putting more cage in it. The clapped ole truck has exceeded its safety level
I can't believe you use those hollow aluminum blocks with that power! I broke one with the little power I run
Both of you were on a rip that pass... Obviously those wastegates were hurting you before because that was a pretty noticeable difference... Between that and the converter the S10 became a monster again , can't wait till she's back good again.. I could tell Billy was happy and excited with how the S10 was running again sucks that happened but at least she made you some money this year before she popped
Beautiful display of pushing a powerplant to it's absolute max. These are the steps we have to take to become masters of a craft.
I can't wait to see what's next for the S10!
It'll start with 18* heads I believe.
@@heshtesh pretty sure they already tried that and it wasn't worth a shit and they ended up going back
@@jonathanlawson4667 they have a new set of heads an aluminum block and rods.
@@mattspecht5681 I hope it's better than the last one they had
Right on guys everyone looks happy way to go Billy for passing your personal best I hope you guys had the time of your life with the WHOLE FAMILY OUT TOGETHER ❤️ I love it Billy you light up the screen kid when you smile a beautiful thing I'm glad to see everyone so happy and having fun.
I am very impressed with the transformation of the Dart. Tommy, Allison and Jeff are going to have another sweet race car/drag&drive car when this is all done..
That falcon is a beast. I love Tommy said this was the first time he was scared to let off the brake. 😎
It’s amazing the kinda power you have been able to make thru that carburetor , need to call your dad the carb wispier
Ole S-10 was Straight up SCREAMIN!! I already seen the short video of her lettin go! Can’t wait to see the next one. I believe she woulda hung with the nova on that pass.
Sorry about the small block but it sure has proved itself! It will be back even faster, can't wait to see it! Great video!! Great job from Jeff making those blocks! Teamwork makes the dream work!!!!!
The old s10 certainly went out with a bang. It's definitely going 4s when it's fixed can't wait to see the rebuild.
I have always heard they run their best just before they let go
That is 100% correct. It took me 2 rebuilds 1 replace. 2 rearends. Not counting alternators and fuel pumps. A drive shaft. To go from 13 to 10.5 and almost all where on a PR
Boy's, Keep Grindin Im Proud of your family. Yall have that thang kickin azz again soon. My moms been in the hospital for past 4days with pneumonia on top of her copd and emphysema. Now she's on a CPAP machine. Love your Mommas while they here fellers. Sure miss my old man too. Hope to come meet youns again and watch youns race. 😎🏁🤟
So sorry brother , be strong for your family if you can , just went through something similar a year ago, God bless you and family , hope things work out ok
@@mattspecht5681 I keep my head up chest out forever moving forward cause God gives his hardest battles to his strongest warriors 😎
Sendn up a prayer for ya mom brother and I hope she gets better soon
@@jhawk1985 thank you 😎
@@RedEyedPatriot AMEN 🙏
Another one bites the dust! Just seen Turbo John with his new engine combo ran a 5 flat at like 150! When he figures that deal out he's going to be a force to be reckoned with! Can't wait for the NPK videos to start popping up! As Joey said when you crashed the Nova, you'll now have more content to film building another motor for the S-10. Good luck guy's, just sideline the truck for the winter and concentrate on the Nova and Falcon for now.
you two kids are amazing young people. your teams gell so well have fun
Amazing kids and amazing parents!
Everything happens for a reason Billy, that is a blessing for it to happen now and something bad happene, build it stronger and better than before you have a good team backing you on the next one. Best of luck 👍
That falcon is going to be super serious when it finally gets just a little engine freshener and a new set of good turbos. 🐌 🐌
If Jeff built and sold race cars he would be one hell of a builder/fabricator. His work quality and attention to detail is spot on.
BILLY
The problem with people who have all these great ideas. Great ideas don't cost them anything. It your wallet that pays for repairs. And hind sight is always 20/20
That's sucks. Now the nova is going to be the star of the show for a minute. Anxious to see the S10 when you get it back together, and rolling again.
That’s not good but that S-10 was on a mission to the 4s easily sorry Billy everything seems to happen to you lately and you are a awesome person dude . Good luck hopefully all your parts are ready to go SRC rocks y’all are badass
Build it, race it, break it, build it better, repeat. That's the name of the game. There's nothing to be mad or ashamed of. All you guys did was prove that the truck/chassis has a ton more to offer.
Man billy I salute bro I love to watch you drive the truck I was like no don’t line my 2 of 3 personal best up. Minor set back for major come back. 🙏🏽
I can't remember the blocks I got for the back of mine but they were were cast steel with pinion angle already cut I did have to have them cut a little more though. Jeff is an amazing character pure meticulous genius. I was at Norwalk wondered why the truck was on the trailer. That engine deserves a display case.
It's always fastest right before it breaks
Rip small block. Billy,that was a great engine. A lil too much boost but it was a beast. Love that. Love yall.
The calm demeanor Billy had after the engine blew amazes me.
I would not have been that way, many bad words. Props to Jeff for taking his time with the Dart. It`s a far cry from what Billy bought. Can`t wait to see how she runs. Good luck Billy, Tommy and Allison. One Question though, Where was Bill? He usually lines you guys up, and says a prayer before you 2 let go of the button. Bill`s a trip, has me cracking up. The S10 will be back, badder than ever! I`ve been following you guys since 2018, and the way you 2 have grown in racing amazes me. Best of luck, mad respect for all. At my age, and the shit I have survived, I thank God every morning for another day. Stay safe all, God Bless.🙏
Looked like Bill was in the Malibu lining up behind their first pass
Yeah me too ✋️
Jeff's attention to detail is off the chart I have a 1967 dary 270 that I am putting a big wedge in . Can't wait to see the first pass from the dart .
what most everyone don't remember is Billy built that Motor with Uncle Bobs help almost 100 percent on his own last year the old Man helped him find some rods i think but he pretty much did everything to it including o-ringing himself props to you Billy and it lasted decent and ran super well Peace
Sad that the motor let go, but DAAAYAM the SBC has been putting in serious work and beating more high dollar setups. Now that you got the suspension tuned and the converter sorted, the S10 will be stupid fast with a solid rotating assembly.
The stuff that you guys have accomplished with old school parts is nothing short of spectacular.
I think if u would have had the wastegate problem fixed before this engine would’ve been blown up a long time ago 😂
@@2fast4you423 true that!
@@2fast4you423 I can hear the Engineer Scotty telling Captain Kirk: "She is doing all she can, Captain. I don't think she can take any more"
The s10 was like don’t rebuild the nova but give me an new engine 😂
No doubt LMAO. It's like "I'll show you to bench me!!!"
He’s got an all aluminum small block waiting to put in the s-10
@@thomasvittetoe1930 that's for tiggers truck bub
I would love to see billy 4 link the rear of the s10 and racers edge fiberglass the truck. And stroker LS with big ass twins.
The truck that started it all gets ultimate upgrades.
Any engine can BLOW UP when you push beyond the limit the parts can handle. Why do you think TOP FUEL and FUNNY CAR rebuild there engine between round.
The poor s10. I'm firm believer that it will be back stronger then ever. Good luck @src. Can't wait to see what comes next. God speed Billy!
I love how everyone has each others back when something comes up, so cool 😎
Straight as a Arrow
Very impressive, now get Tommy's truck together, and the Nova
Can't wait to see the results
Big Shout to Jeff for sizing the lowering blocks 👌 nicely done
Have a Great Day 👍
God Bless America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thing was for sure on a 4 pass, I mean 5.12 at 123 Jesus dude that thing was rolling. Glad to hear you say you are building it back and even stronger. That truck has been a symbol of street racing for ever it feels like. Always enjoy the content and Tommy you kill it with camera and editing....and driving the falcon.
We used to tear stuff out on lifted trucks with blocks in the back. A reversed setup but causing the same issues. We angle milled a steel block and welded it to the rear mount pad. A much better fix than running a shim deal. Adding fatter Ubolts also help them stay tight with less stretch. When that rearend "walks" with big tall tires the Ubolts stretch everytime.
You all are flippin' AWESOME. Love the families love the content❤💪👍😁✌
SRC should turn that Grenade into a glass top table for cookout gathering's..
1 hell of a run both of y'all did.. that was a boom that shook the inside go pro for sure! Too cool to see how well the diaper worked for ya Billy..
Love you Billy. The little blue truck will be back and so I will you. Carry on.
All props go to Jeff. I know he has his daughters safety in mind regardless of a racing schedule. As the saying goes serve no wine before it's time. Billy the kid trying to get all the knowledge of the opponent before the race. Malibu against the Dart. Should be the truck! Still helping Billy with all his problems though. Will see how this family saga plays out. Friendly competition. We will see. Billy didn't make it to the end of the video. Poor baby.
You can drill and tap the center of the pin on your block to 3/8. Use a 3/8 Allen head bolt to give you more pin height and same outer diameter.
Congratulations on your personal best, all that on stock suspension. Incredible!
If any holes aren’t damaged upon disassembly, it would be worth looking at the tops of the pistons, ring-lands, ring-buts, and spark-plugs.....I know you were pushing it really hard and it saw more load than normal due to all the traction and new convertor, so I’d look for signs of detonation / pre-ignition.....people will say it can’t happen on methanol, but it can.....idk how your timing ramps look but if it popped after full boost and timing were already all in it could be detonation / preignition related, if it’s the latter where boost and timing were still climbing then it’s more likely a rod load capacity issue, given boosted engines usually don’t fail rods in tension fatigue (unless it’s the rod bolts)......safe timing is hard to determine on methanol without tuning on an engine dyno, because MBT can be reached / exceeded without detonation under the right conditions and that will fold rods without warning, and MBT moves to a lower and lower numbers as boost is increased (usually non-linearly) due to back pressure going and charge temp going way up when your really pushing your setup.......I’m not insinuating that you don’t know / understand what I typed, I’m just advocating it would be good to 100% know the root cause, to ensure the new engine isn’t at risk once the S10 is back together again, if the issue was tune-up related in any way / shape / form.
I love these types of videos of you spreading the knowledge and troubleshooting.
Honestly insane how much it picked up just fixing the gates Billy.
Hate to see it but now you know what that setup can do when it’s right. 145+ pulling that weight is making some serious steam
Best drag racing channel on YT!
Hands down
Damn Billy thats a hard knock ,i am sure you will get it back together, least it happened near the end of race season.
That little small block lived a great life Can't forget it beat hong once this summer at limpys cash days. That was really cool of Jeff fa fa to mill those blocks also!
This is just a minor hiccup I'm sure you'll be back with a even batter power house. Keep you the great work and I'm so happy you came out safe and didn't hurt anything or yourself.
One hell of a run .glad u r ok build it bigger and bad young man u have the know how. And thank you for taking the time to talk to me at no pre.I forgot to tell u we got the 12.23 at 118 shift at 5800 on the motor. But Thank For Take The Time to talk to me and my Wife!
I love that turbo whistle the falcon makes
Great video. Great that Jeff was able to help Billy out too. Also seeing Tony and Tess. 👍🏻🇬🇧
Wow that little truck was bookin!!! Been watching this channel for a long time and never seen it go like that 💯👍🏼
Those old blocks have been there since b4 the "cheat code" vids, dam
Billy a true racer!! “ I just ran my personal best”!! So I’m going to turn it up more! Lol
How awesome that all three channels come together. Sorry to see you blow up the motor but I have all the faith in the world that you will bring it back better than ever keep up the awesome content and as always be safe 👍
Jeff fa fa and the kids have done a great job on the car and it shows. Its gonna run pretty damn good
Man that sucks..I was hoping to see the truck at Cincy Street Nights in Oct. Looking forward to seeing you guys at Edgewater on the 14th. The diaper sure keeps that mess contained and the oil off the track..and most importantly off those rear tires!
WOOOOOOOWWWWW.. I watched the intro and had to pause.. THAT truck was on A PASS!!!!!!!! WOWWW
I’m glad I saw how you fixed it. I have the same lowering blocks and shims on my 1st Gen Camaro. I haven’t ran it yet. So now I’m going to fix it. 👍
What a way to take that engine out... it was working!! What was the carnage? What block was that and what block are you going to use next??
You boys are the real thing!!!
Will buy a few things to support
Ya guys.. can’t wait to see what’s next..
Billy I used to cut the piñon angle on my lowering blocks on my chop saw. Works great.
Well the ol girl did her best! More up grades coming! Keep pushing guys!
Hang in there! Thanks for the videos!
Awesome video regardless of the truck... Bring her back better than ever Billy that truck has got you where you are today
You blew the truck up, raggedy Ann got totalled. Bad weekend for my guys. I know you guys will come back stronger.
Jeff is thinking it's all sketchy! The Dart needs a really good 800 dp tuned right to carry all the extra weight on it! But it can run sum 10.50s or more on gas & methanol! Im loving seeing people in sweaters!
Wow the truvk was rollin!!!! Oh & Jeff is a super cool & very talented friend to have on ur side.. Sucks it let go but as u said make it stronger now that u found a point where something hit its limit. On inside go pro u csn see u get moved in seat when it breaks thank god no one got hurt n Tony gettin Mustang on its way too. Love Billys Stang too Im a Mustang guy myself so love the content from all yall
This is for Billy; Baby steps when going for the unachieved so far. Broke my heart when not just the engine blew but found out how foolishly it was done. Listening to a Ford guy. What the hell? I thought you had more sense than that! Well hopefully you'll learn sooner to trust yourself more than that. You said 5lbs up earlier in video which I was excited to hear some good judgement exhisted between your ears. then to hear how easily swayed you were. Good luck in the future.
I LOVE THAT DETROIT HOODTV SHIRT BILLY IS WEARING, IM AN EAST SIDE DETROITER MY WHOLE LIFE. LOVE YOUR CHANNEL GUYS
Billy caved to pier pressure and went greedy on boost. Had he gone with his idea of 5lbs extra boost things would still be together.
Saw you guys at Norwalk but didn't get a chance to say hi, since we got to there alittle late. But just wanted to say (as a fellow Ohion) I love all 3 three of your family's channels. Keep up the great work
Should put a full qa1 front suspension kit on the front of the s10. And put your fibreglass doors back on. I’ve noticed You’re excelling on the tuning game and I feel you can control that weight loss
Oh man that sucks !! As you know I'm a Ford guy, but that little truck has amazed me over the past couple of years !! You and it seem to have a " bond", but I think it said "ok, a little too much boost" and gave it up. I know you'll get it back going with the aluminum block and all, and hurt more feelings !!!!
That sucks buddy guess we will get to see you build it back better than ever like you said that engine didn’t owe you anything it out performed what it was meant to do it was a beast hope you stay with a carb on the new engine thanks for sharing
That engine performed great. If it was me I would build another one just the same. Keep on keeping on.
Damn I hate that you blew that motor just when you got the waste gate fixed but like you said the next motor will be even better tuff brake buddy. Your friend from Louisiana Rick 427
Jeff is a heck of a guy and has a lot of knowledge the little truck was flying and it sounded really good in the burn out was a heck of a motor that was in it for sure for the first motor the you put together by yourself could you put Tommy’s motor in it or is it blown up to just so you can race tell you get your other motor together can’t what to see it and the nova back out
That ol girl was straight moving out before she let go! 🇺🇸🏁
I know Bill hates LS engines but damn that falcon moves .. time to build a bad ass LS for that s10 an let it eat .. you have to admit that falcon has been trouble free engine wise for a long time an pretty much is running same as the s10 ..
That guy should buy a mister from grizzly to cool his cutters. They don’t make the mess that the Flood Coolant does. Also his mill should have been able to rotate the table or at least shim the side that was up because sometimes that cutter will dull and then vibrate the part loos and start pushing the part down into the Vice. A mill is Definitely a must have and Grizzly makes good stuff. Also an Iron Worker 😂
Hey folks, the new camera looks spectacular! Sucks the S10 motor blew but you learn with each failure. It is really starting to look like your at the point where a spare engine, ready to go might be worth considering.
Here's an idea...Tommy's engine for his S-10 goes to Billy's S-10 again and Tommy's truck gets a an LS. The LS is less expensive an the Old Man would loose his mind!
Keep it up, great stuff from you folks as always!
He was already building a spare engine for the S10. He just has to put it together
Dang sorry to hear about the engine. I thought for sure it just blew a charge pipe 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Diapers save lives!!! Sorry for the loss, chances are it was going to fail soon anyways with how hard it was running, better here than all the time and effort to make no prep kings and kick the rods first qualifier. 4's is nuts!!!
Billy your a great tunner don't let anyone change how you do things or what tune up you think will get the number you might have saved yourself a bunch of time and money or atleast that engine
Billy, sorry about the motor.
But it was a damn stout little fella.
Jeff, nice blocks.
Damn Billy. Sorry about the blow-through SBC blowing. That engine has put in work tho for sure. But as I always say breaking components is a pathway to new upgraded components, but also to having less money LMAO. I'm sure with the S-10 & the Nova down it'll give you time to come up with a good game plan and come back faster. Tommy will keep the SRC torch alive I'm sure. And you'll have more time for the Fox body.
Sorry that motor blew I remember when you were building it at Bob's shop. well like you said she did give you one hell of a ride. Crazy thing is she was holding out on you west gates changed and a little transmission work she went back to the wild thing mode that we all came love about her. You got this no doubt about it she will come back better then ever. By the way when's Tommy going to get his S10 back at again? You should tell him to drop the hemi into his s10 blazer that would be spicy!!!
Nice work finding the issues. But...... Thats mighty rich when spooling up.
Jeff really is quite the fabricator.
This reminds me of the tortoise and the hare story / theory. Two different vehicles set up differently with different principles in mind. Just like when vehicles are built from the ground up when racing to the finish line.
Die hard s10 it is Dam billy you really pushed its to its limits....jeff at work and chipin in for SRC nice work on those blocks.....the nova is waiting....🙂👍🙏
5/8 unbolts and steel blocks never aluminum, you have about 2.5 inches of lower bracket trying to stabilize 6 inch of leverage against the cal trac bracket, you'll get there, God bless you all
I'm surprised you use such weak Drop Blocks, I only have maybe 4ooHP in mine and those flimsy drop blocks always gives away.
Honestly those aluminum drop blocks are a disaster waiting to happen and with the power your making no way . Drop split mono leafs or lowering leafs .