interesting that Kuze is using a standard military bayonet as his knife (note the hole near the tip so it can be linked to the sheath and used as a wire cutter) probably of a type normally issued to soldiers with minimal cybernetic parts, primarily as a utility tool. By contrast Batou is using a knife with a reinforced tip and a notable thicker blade cross section, which Kuze recognises as being indicative of a Ranger. To me this suggests that the knife Batou is using is specifically designed to be used against enemies with potentially high levels of cybernetic parts by someone with above human levels of strength, since the blade is set up to penetrate well and be used for prying type attacks.
do you mean the hole on the hilt of Kuzes blade? I think thats where it would attach to a rifle to become a bayonet not to cut wire but I could be wrong . also i noticed Batos knifes handle is wrapped in para cord . damn this detail....
Like in one of the movies Batou 'talks' to the Yakuza using a LMG lol. Its just overkill to send him against regular people. Makes sense hed have a blade good for killing cybernetics considering what Batou and the rest of Section 9 have to put up with.
Kuze proved he knew battle tactics well: First he blocked the attack by sacrificing the weakest part of his body (his inferior hand), then he removed the strongest weapon of his enemy. In the fair fight, he waited for the right moment to get the upper hand, then used that chance to take his enemy's mobility away by destroying Batou's leg. The rod to the shoulder was just the icing on the cake - with one leg out of commission, the long-range weapon out of reach, he would have been able to escape with no way for Batou to follow him anymore. THAT is how you fight.
Batou was truly foolish using that kick. It left him vulnerable, especially with his ranged weapon being unreachable. If I'm not mistaken, an appropriate counter for high kicks has tremendous payout because it allows easy access to the lower limb which can be used to manipulate an attacker's center of gravity easily.
Newer anime is mostly shit. I had my anime phase about 10 years age - 2009 to 2012 - most anime post 2017 is unwatchable. It's all so stylized now, all so about catering to otaku with its asides, exagerated performances, and more.
To those that complain. Didnt you watch the anime at all? It was well established in several episodes that Kuze was one of the first artificials, he had more training on how to use his body, he was a former commando as oppose Bauto (former ranger n soldier). Kuze's body was more "unique". If Bauto won, I would call BS.
tl;dr version is Kuze was basically a prosthetic prodigy with better combat training. In a way Kuze can be compared to Geralt from The Witcher series since both of them have bodies which were very adaptable and receptive to the changes applied to them.
Young Tobbie it’s not about being new it’s about the experience and data the old accumulated that allowed them to analyze and adapt to their surroundings better than most new types
True, Kuze has been cyborized for a comparably longer time than Batou. He's also a full bodied cyborg which affords him both experience with cyborization and strength and speed. Batou however has more combat experience, as he fought as a commando ( which Rangers would be considered in many cases), and Kuze only saw real combat once. Against a far inferior force at that.
Who knows maybe while Kuze was out of Japan he had fights with other cyborgs who might also be ex military or professional hitmans I doubt that he just lazed around the world doing nothing wish there was a spin off of his story outside of Japan I think him talking to people is nothing more but a hobby that turned to a habit eventually becoming his main goal as he stated so yeah I want to see what’s he’s been doing so I can call this scene fair
As much as I wanted otherwise, I just knew Kuze was going to win this one. Kuze is literally part of a government funded project, basically a living weapon. Batou did pretty good until Kuze did some insane improvisation with that hold. Also I love the style, it looks like they did a lot of live action stuff for this show.
Honestly though Batou is also part of a government funded project and a living weapon. Section 9 is well established to have huge budgets and access to the absolute best of prosthetics equipment and training. Two absolutely elite men duking it out.
Because they have fucking energy beams the fuck you expect Any anime that has powers or shoots stuff from their hands gonna have explosions right with them smh
Altough, DBZ has some way over the top action sequences. The prequel Dragon Ball has some of the best martial arts choreography to date. Especiallyin the world marital arts tournaments.
It's truly amazing to the fact that Kuze could have went in for the kill, but he chose only to incapacitate. But I understand he was pressed for time. But he gave such sincere respect to batou.
@Walter Anders I don't think Kuze ever intended on killing Batou regardless of time. I don't think he would do that to Motoko. He doesn't just kill people aimlessly lol
It's not easy to kill cyborg. He would have to go for head and Batous was still able to defend head long enough. Kuze was on clock as rest of the Section 9 was coming.
I'm just surprised that Batou knew he was supposed to give him a concussion but slammed the metal rod over his shoulder instead of his head. He panicked and that cost him the whole match.
the comments on this one scene are outstanding compared to typical youtube videos. this series and this scene has particularly impacted many of us. I came here altering seeing a knife fight in john wick 2, and it reminded me of perhaps the best knife I've ever seen, i.e. this batou vs kuze fight. almost on the level of when the major fought Saito.
I like grounded combat scenes like this, its not overly flashy with a ton sfxs all going off at the same time and their movements aren't too exaggerated.
To those, who says: "Batou should've won, because he was an elite ranger during WW4, while Kuze saw real combat only once..." Here's my theory on Kuze's life and his military career, before he deserted. I wrote this 2 years ago under one of the comments here, but I think it's an interesting read, so I decided to share it again individually: I don't really believe that Kuze saw real combat only once. The way Ishikawa talks about him during Episode 16, it sounds to me that it was actually him, who led that company in Korea. While it may be just "presentation", but you can even see him giving orders on the top of the mountain, when they discovered that non-marked refugee camp. So in that case, by 2024 (when the Peninsula War/Korean Incident happens) his rank has to be at least on Captain level (one rank below Major :))! Now, according to what we can find on the net, Motoko was born in 2003. I always assumed that Kuze is like 2 years older than her, so he could've been born in 2001. Motoko was already a "big player" in the military by 2020 (when she defeated and recruited Saito). Maybe she didn't have the rank back then, but everybody already called her Major, so either way, she couldn't be too far to reach that rank! And while she was only 17 years old, due to her being a cyborg and a good strategyzer (and it's war time and it's only an anime anyway...), it's not really that much of a stretch! Now, we do know that before Kuze was enlisted into the war, he was visiting universities (he found Motoko's child body in an university). He was most likely ready to start his college years, which means that he was around 18-19 years old when he was enlisted. Even if we estimate his birthyear to be 2003 (like I said, I rather believe that he was born in 2001, but either way, he's around the same age as Motoko), he was still recruited into the JSDF around 2021-2022. Which means that by the Korean incident (2024), he already had at least a 2-3 year military experience. Which is had to be a honest, legit experience, since WW4 was still going on at that time! There's no way that he just sat in a camp with a gun in his hand, doing only guard duty! He was a cyborg with a very strong PFK (Peace Force-Keeper) body! He definitely had to go out and experience combat during those years! In Episode 11, the antique shop owner also kinda confirms this, because when Motoko asked her "what happened to the boy (Kuze)", her answer was that he got enlisted and was taken to oversea. As far as I know, from Europe's and Asia's perspective, oversea usually means America. WW4 (also known as the Second Vietnam War) took place in Mexico, America (mostly Middle and South), and East Asia (Japan, China, Vietnam and Korea mostly). So we can even assume that in his first couple years, Kuze served somewhere in America. Just like how The Major, Batou, Ishikawa and Saito served some time in Mexico :) TLDR; Kuze was enlisted years before the Korean Incident and just like The Major, he was a prosthetic prodigy, so he had his fair share of combat in WW4 and he quickly rose through the military ranks and reached Captain rank and got his own company by 2024. Unfortunately, most of his company were inexperienced and became a mental mess after their first time combat experience. With the shame he felt by "failing" his company and the disgust he felt by the media and the way his superiors treated him and his men, he deserted/exiled himself and became a refugee. The rest is history ;)
At least not that high, for sure. A foot sweep or joint kick (which Batou tried as well) can be good to trip up your opponent's balance as long as you don't sacrifice your own. Or a kick to the groin if it's open, but nothing higher than that.
At least once every month, I always come back here to rewatch this scene, along with the one, where Kuze tried to assassinate PM Kayabuki! Amazing! Truly the peak of GitS Anime! I really wish Kuze would've got his own spin-off series! He's such a cool - I especially like the "Cyborg Ronin Vibe" he gaves -, interesting and well designed character, but unfortunately he's also very underrated (at least the way I see it), even among the GitS Fanbase. A series about him, during his wandering years (2024 - 2032) would've given us so much S.A.C Lore and world building! Imo, it definitely would've been a much better series than Arise and SAC_2045/Netflix. Edit: In my opinion, he's also very similar to other characters I like from different series. Like (Darth) Revan from Star Wars, Batman or John Wick. He's also very similar to Altair Ibn-La'Ahad from the Assassin's Creed series. Hell, if I compare him to the OG AC protagonists, then I would say: He's got the wisdom (and in a way, the arrogance as well) of Altair. The handsomeness of Ezio. And the strength of Connor, along with his kindness and selfless willingness for helping people. What a great character!
Why general direction, art direction, and music direction all matter. Take away the score and the tension is greatly diminished. Take away the commitment to sci-fi realism and we don't flinch when Batou's leg is pulled apart. Take away the story and what both characters are trying to achieve and we wouldn't be invested in a simple, two minute knife fight.
@@leovanilla6833 The steel mill scene near the end of "Terminator 2" depicts two cyborgs slugging it out, and one getting run through with a steel pipe.
And from what I've found out, the name/word "Kuze" means "Old Story" in Japanese. So his full name, "Hideo Kuze" means "Hero Old Story". Fits him perfectly, since he was a "Hero" to the refugees and he's sharing an "Old Story" (a sad but sweet story) with Motoko. By the way, in the 2017 novel (GitS: Five New Short Stories) it was revealed that his real surname was "Hisaragi". But no matter how hard I tried, Google didn't reveal the meaning of this name to me. My search was always forced to "Kisaragi".
Gits and Monster are anime that I watch from time to time growing up and everytime I enjoy them even more. I wish we had more mature anime like that instead of college boys fighting the world with superpowers aka the japanese version of Marvel.
This and another manga that is kind of similar to Ghost in the Shell called Eden it's an endless world, taught me how to hold a knife and how to strike in vital points
Love gits but rewatching this it's weird battou has trouble with the ankle lock kuzes puts on him i really enjoy the grounded MMA style fight, very cool and i appreciate it much more now as an adult MMA practitioner.
This fight might look slow to us meatbags, but I bet it's going like a bruce lee/jackie chan fight sequence were we to see it in person. These cyborgs are just processing the speed more quickly.
You'd think a society that has developed the technology to keep brains alive inside jars, create full body bulletproof cyborgs and keep them super energy efficient would also have created better firearms to counter those things already. If someone can stop your special forces rifle bullets with the palm of their hands you're probably doing something wrong...
They actually go through his hand, you can see the holes In the back of his hand when he's got Batou's leg. He used his hand to absorb the impacts so they didn't hit his body as hard (but he still gets shot in the torso).
Modern day anime fans will watch this clip and be like "What sloppy animation, theyre moving like robots, and they cant even bother animating his lips when he speaks"
You literally cannot tell me that the kick at 0:31 wasn't the worst animated kick I've seen in a high-budget anime. Rest of the choreography is fine, the jump-flips are a little much, but seriously, that kick made me burst out laughing the first time I saw this scene, it looks so legitimately pathetic.
@@Toothydeere Aww man really? I think that kick looks pretty good. Brought it up to above hip level, pulled it back, knocked the gun right out of Batous hand. Gotta keep in mind that their bodies are cybernetic and built for advanced physical movements, so its going to look weird. The beauty is that they animated it that way, instead of saying "hey theyre all cyborgs, but were just gonna make them move like normal humans". Theres like 18 frames to that kick
@@Raemnant I just really dislike how he kicks with the top of his feet, which makes it look even weaker than a kick with the heel. Looks like Batou just threw the gun away to make him feel better lol
@@Toothydeere lmao I know what you mean, the gun kinda flies off on an after thought. I think thats the curse of going slow motion here and there to empahsise the action. But it does look like he tosses it
Still one of my favorite anime characters. Batou is such a unique personality who’s deep with pain and trauma from his past which seeps into the show. No wonder he felt so close to Motoko as she was the only one who really understood what he was going through. Such a great series too. But you gotta watch the original Japanese voice acting as the English dub has zero depth to it and is terrible imo
I agree with you. Batou is a well-developped character who's got his time and purpose in the show. I also like how his personality shifts when he learns about Motoko's close link with Kuze, another person who lived some trauma and pain in the past. Both are great characters to fit with her.
I actually think the english dub for this one does a pretty good job, though it does fall short. There are definitely parts in this series where the writing and dialogue are said a certain way in the native tongue that just does not translate into the english dub.
Great choreography, but the half slow mo-half normal speed made it look a little awkward in a few places. Audio would also heighten the tension if it sounded less cartoony.
Cyberpunk 2077 Batou run- Focus on Assault,Blade and entire Body tree. Minimal Intelligence tree but points may be spent on Quickhacking opponents eyes. “Nomad” path, Sympathy for Dogs,Mechs and Drones.
I never really noticed it till now...
But Kuze brought a knife to a gun fight.
And won
Irvine Spiegel crazy 😅
@@evilnet1 at that range, batou was fucked.
With his PKF body he can withstand a lot of bullets.
Dude was a final boss and knew it. i liked his character wish they would bring em back
interesting that Kuze is using a standard military bayonet as his knife (note the hole near the tip so it can be linked to the sheath and used as a wire cutter) probably of a type normally issued to soldiers with minimal cybernetic parts, primarily as a utility tool. By contrast Batou is using a knife with a reinforced tip and a notable thicker blade cross section, which Kuze recognises as being indicative of a Ranger. To me this suggests that the knife Batou is using is specifically designed to be used against enemies with potentially high levels of cybernetic parts by someone with above human levels of strength, since the blade is set up to penetrate well and be used for prying type attacks.
Fantastic observation!
You've made me aware of another level of attention to detail in this anime that I had completely missed until now. Thank you.
do you mean the hole on the hilt of Kuzes blade? I think thats where it would attach to a rifle to become a bayonet not to cut wire but I could be wrong .
also i noticed Batos knifes handle is wrapped in para cord . damn this detail....
@@allways28 You can only see that detail when the knife drops at 1:02.
Like in one of the movies Batou 'talks' to the Yakuza using a LMG lol. Its just overkill to send him against regular people. Makes sense hed have a blade good for killing cybernetics considering what Batou and the rest of Section 9 have to put up with.
Kuze proved he knew battle tactics well:
First he blocked the attack by sacrificing the weakest part of his body (his inferior hand), then he removed the strongest weapon of his enemy. In the fair fight, he waited for the right moment to get the upper hand, then used that chance to take his enemy's mobility away by destroying Batou's leg. The rod to the shoulder was just the icing on the cake - with one leg out of commission, the long-range weapon out of reach, he would have been able to escape with no way for Batou to follow him anymore.
THAT is how you fight.
Batou was truly foolish using that kick. It left him vulnerable, especially with his ranged weapon being unreachable. If I'm not mistaken, an appropriate counter for high kicks has tremendous payout because it allows easy access to the lower limb which can be used to manipulate an attacker's center of gravity easily.
We need more anime like Gits. The music, animation and soul in it is amazing and mesmerizing. Im yet to see a better series..
Wholeheartedly agree.
Akira is another
Now you can see big tities and white knights
How about Appleseed
Same animation i guess
Newer anime is mostly shit. I had my anime phase about 10 years age - 2009 to 2012 - most anime post 2017 is unwatchable. It's all so stylized now, all so about catering to otaku with its asides, exagerated performances, and more.
バトーさん、やっぱり惚れるな～。武闘派なんだけど繊細で仲間を思いやるし、本当の漢だね。
やっぱりクゼとバトーはどちらもかっこいい。
To those that complain. Didnt you watch the anime at all? It was well established in several episodes that Kuze was one of the first artificials, he had more training on how to use his body, he was a former commando as oppose Bauto (former ranger n soldier). Kuze's body was more "unique". If Bauto won, I would call BS.
tl;dr version is Kuze was basically a prosthetic prodigy with better combat training.
In a way Kuze can be compared to Geralt from The Witcher series since both of them have bodies which were very adaptable and receptive to the changes applied to them.
nodinitiative just like anything thing on earth old shit is always more durable then new upgraded recycled looking stuff. Just like cars
Young Tobbie it’s not about being new it’s about the experience and data the old accumulated that allowed them to analyze and adapt to their surroundings better than most new types
True, Kuze has been cyborized for a comparably longer time than Batou. He's also a full bodied cyborg which affords him both experience with cyborization and strength and speed. Batou however has more combat experience, as he fought as a commando ( which Rangers would be considered in many cases), and Kuze only saw real combat once. Against a far inferior force at that.
Who knows maybe while Kuze was out of Japan he had fights with other cyborgs who might also be ex military or professional hitmans I doubt that he just lazed around the world doing nothing wish there was a spin off of his story outside of Japan I think him talking to people is nothing more but a hobby that turned to a habit eventually becoming his main goal as he stated so yeah I want to see what’s he’s been doing so I can call this scene fair
As much as I wanted otherwise, I just knew Kuze was going to win this one.
Kuze is literally part of a government funded project, basically a living weapon.
Batou did pretty good until Kuze did some insane improvisation with that hold.
Also I love the style, it looks like they did a lot of live action stuff for this show.
Heel hooks and leg locks are no joke. Very easy to destroy the knee with one.
Honestly though Batou is also part of a government funded project and a living weapon. Section 9 is well established to have huge budgets and access to the absolute best of prosthetics equipment and training.
Two absolutely elite men duking it out.
@@natalie5947 And it's too easy to presume that this is symbolic of a rivalry over a woman who, like them, is an elite cyborg.
you guys missed the entire point of this scene.
Brazilian Jujistu beats boxing and a rifle. Ok.
バトーさんが負けるとは思ってなかったから衝撃的だった。ほんとに魅力あるキャラクター
負けたイメージしかなかったけどもう一度見ると意外と逆転負けに近い感じだった
ハイキックじゃなくてボクシングベースで堅実に攻めてればバトーだったかも
I love anime for it's over the top DBZ fights. But sometimes you just want a good well choreography fight that doesn't need any insane explosions.
Michael Bay, watching Fishcake: Hurricane Chronicles with Deidara scenes..."Finally, a WORTHY opponent. OUR BATTLE WILL B LEGENDARY!!!"
Because they have fucking energy beams the fuck you expect
Any anime that has powers or shoots stuff from their hands gonna have explosions right with them smh
Altough, DBZ has some way over the top action sequences. The prequel Dragon Ball has some of the best martial arts choreography to date. Especiallyin the world marital arts tournaments.
@@hugosanchez4593
Honestly, King Piccolo onwards was when Z's style of fights started to creep in.
It's truly amazing to the fact that Kuze could have went in for the kill, but he chose only to incapacitate. But I understand he was pressed for time. But he gave such sincere respect to batou.
Batou on the other hand had zero problems killing him.
@Walter Anders
I don't think Kuze ever intended on killing Batou regardless of time. I don't think he would do that to Motoko. He doesn't just kill people aimlessly lol
It's not easy to kill cyborg. He would have to go for head and Batous was still able to defend head long enough. Kuze was on clock as rest of the Section 9 was coming.
I'm just surprised that Batou knew he was supposed to give him a concussion but slammed the metal rod over his shoulder instead of his head. He panicked and that cost him the whole match.
Batou had lost his cool before the fight even began.
小山さんのカリスマ性も出せる声凄いな...
鷹村さんや毛利のおっちゃんのダミ声寄り演技で親しんでるから
たまにこういうクリアーでクールなの来ると惚れてまう
Hands down the best fight/action sequence of the entire GITS series. The music, the emotion and atmosphere. It's second to none.
the comments on this one scene are outstanding compared to typical youtube videos. this series and this scene has particularly impacted many of us. I came here altering seeing a knife fight in john wick 2, and it reminded me of perhaps the best knife I've ever seen, i.e. this batou vs kuze fight. almost on the level of when the major fought Saito.
I completely forgot this scene wow
RIP Major Kusanagi
I like grounded combat scenes like this, its not overly flashy with a ton sfxs all going off at the same time and their movements aren't too exaggerated.
Love this anime, also that was so Brutal when Kuze twisted Batou’s leg and impaled his shoulder with a metal pole.
That one kind of made me sick to my stomach the first time I watched it. Still does a little
My favourite knife fight from anime all the time...
Kuze really sonned Batou in this one. Just shows how durable his prosthetic body is even though it’s way past it’s service life
ナイフでのタイマンバトルはコマンド―からの定番
To those, who says: "Batou should've won, because he was an elite ranger during WW4, while Kuze saw real combat only once..."
Here's my theory on Kuze's life and his military career, before he deserted.
I wrote this 2 years ago under one of the comments here, but I think it's an interesting read, so I decided to share it again individually:
I don't really believe that Kuze saw real combat only once.
The way Ishikawa talks about him during Episode 16, it sounds to me that it was actually him, who led that company in Korea. While it may be just "presentation", but you can even see him giving orders on the top of the mountain, when they discovered that non-marked refugee camp. So in that case, by 2024 (when the Peninsula War/Korean Incident happens) his rank has to be at least on Captain level (one rank below Major :))!
Now, according to what we can find on the net, Motoko was born in 2003. I always assumed that Kuze is like 2 years older than her, so he could've been born in 2001. Motoko was already a "big player" in the military by 2020 (when she defeated and recruited Saito). Maybe she didn't have the rank back then, but everybody already called her Major, so either way, she couldn't be too far to reach that rank! And while she was only 17 years old, due to her being a cyborg and a good strategyzer (and it's war time and it's only an anime anyway...), it's not really that much of a stretch!
Now, we do know that before Kuze was enlisted into the war, he was visiting universities (he found Motoko's child body in an university). He was most likely ready to start his college years, which means that he was around 18-19 years old when he was enlisted.
Even if we estimate his birthyear to be 2003 (like I said, I rather believe that he was born in 2001, but either way, he's around the same age as Motoko), he was still recruited into the JSDF around 2021-2022. Which means that by the Korean incident (2024), he already had at least a 2-3 year military experience.
Which is had to be a honest, legit experience, since WW4 was still going on at that time! There's no way that he just sat in a camp with a gun in his hand, doing only guard duty! He was a cyborg with a very strong PFK (Peace Force-Keeper) body! He definitely had to go out and experience combat during those years!
In Episode 11, the antique shop owner also kinda confirms this, because when Motoko asked her "what happened to the boy (Kuze)", her answer was that he got enlisted and was taken to oversea. As far as I know, from Europe's and Asia's perspective, oversea usually means America.
WW4 (also known as the Second Vietnam War) took place in Mexico, America (mostly Middle and South), and East Asia (Japan, China, Vietnam and Korea mostly). So we can even assume that in his first couple years, Kuze served somewhere in America.
Just like how The Major, Batou, Ishikawa and Saito served some time in Mexico :)
TLDR;
Kuze was enlisted years before the Korean Incident and just like The Major, he was a prosthetic prodigy, so he had his fair share of combat in WW4 and he quickly rose through the military ranks and reached Captain rank and got his own company by 2024. Unfortunately, most of his company were inexperienced and became a mental mess after their first time combat experience. With the shame he felt by "failing" his company and the disgust he felt by the media and the way his superiors treated him and his men, he deserted/exiled himself and became a refugee. The rest is history ;)
Easily one of the top 5 anime series in history.
That's why you never kick when you're both standing in a street fight
At least not that high, for sure. A foot sweep or joint kick (which Batou tried as well) can be good to trip up your opponent's balance as long as you don't sacrifice your own. Or a kick to the groin if it's open, but nothing higher than that.
Yo that Heel Hook though. Always cool too see Jui Jitsu in shows.
攻殻機動隊は格闘シーンも最高だけど、
その格闘シーンを盛り上げるBGMも最高なんだよね〜♪
RUclips algorithms only show me these clips when I'm on the pot.
The music really adds to this scene. The tension it lends.
I love this fight. I never understood this show but this has to be one my favorite fights of all times. And I just noticed batou had a pistol on back.
Didn't notice that detail. It means he wanted a fair fight instead of just killing him.
It wasn't a pistol, that was his knife pouch
@@jase276 I'll check it out when it's not 4am
ここの曲サントラで売って無いんだよなぁ。
出島の艦砲射撃のシーンとか何でよって曲が無い。
サントラ4も良かったけど名シーンの曲は収録して欲しい
What a fight!
For anyone new to gits, both these guys are cyborgs... don't say this is unrealistic.
It's still way more grounded and realistic that the vast majority of anime fights.
At least once every month, I always come back here to rewatch this scene, along with the one, where Kuze tried to assassinate PM Kayabuki!
Amazing! Truly the peak of GitS Anime!
I really wish Kuze would've got his own spin-off series!
He's such a cool - I especially like the "Cyborg Ronin Vibe" he gaves -, interesting and well designed character, but unfortunately he's also very underrated (at least the way I see it), even among the GitS Fanbase.
A series about him, during his wandering years (2024 - 2032) would've given us so much S.A.C Lore and world building!
Imo, it definitely would've been a much better series than Arise and SAC_2045/Netflix.
Edit: In my opinion, he's also very similar to other characters I like from different series.
Like (Darth) Revan from Star Wars, Batman or John Wick.
He's also very similar to Altair Ibn-La'Ahad from the Assassin's Creed series.
Hell, if I compare him to the OG AC protagonists, then I would say:
He's got the wisdom (and in a way, the arrogance as well) of Altair.
The handsomeness of Ezio.
And the strength of Connor, along with his kindness and selfless willingness for helping people.
What a great character!
Why general direction, art direction, and music direction all matter. Take away the score and the tension is greatly diminished. Take away the commitment to sci-fi realism and we don't flinch when Batou's leg is pulled apart. Take away the story and what both characters are trying to achieve and we wouldn't be invested in a simple, two minute knife fight.
The Terminator 2 nod makes this fight even better.
What exactly was the refefence to T2? Can't seem to notice it
How about the nod to "RoboCop (1987)" ?
@@leovanilla6833 The steel mill scene near the end of "Terminator 2" depicts two cyborgs slugging it out, and one getting run through with a steel pipe.
Batou's body based on biomechanic and Kuze totally based on mechanic which each part can work individually.
kuze even took the bent end of the pipe and still impaled batou like what kind of strength is this
His name “Hideo” is written as “英雄” in kanji.
And this word means “Hero” in Japanese.
And from what I've found out, the name/word "Kuze" means "Old Story" in Japanese.
So his full name, "Hideo Kuze" means "Hero Old Story".
Fits him perfectly, since he was a "Hero" to the refugees and he's sharing an "Old Story" (a sad but sweet story) with Motoko.
By the way, in the 2017 novel (GitS: Five New Short Stories) it was revealed that his real surname was "Hisaragi".
But no matter how hard I tried, Google didn't reveal the meaning of this name to me. My search was always forced to "Kisaragi".
Mamoru Takamura vs. Bryan Hawk.
Damn Kuze's lip sync is on point.
RoseIsNotAFlower i hope youre being sarcastic. It was established that Kuze's face doesnt work as well as modern day prosthetics.
woosh
I rooted for Kuze during this fight scene and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Same here lol. Hes bad ass.
ここのBGMはハリウッド映画のそれを彷彿させる素晴らしいものです。
While outwardly, each man's motivations differ, Team Kamiyama made this scene look like two guys fighting over a woman.
Gits and Monster are anime that I watch from time to time growing up and everytime I enjoy them even more. I wish we had more mature anime like that instead of college boys fighting the world with superpowers aka the japanese version of Marvel.
Notice, none of that icepick handgrip style shit, two dudes who know how to knife fight going at it.
Best melee fight in all of GITS.
Gabe B what about The Hearts Blind Spot?
jack Bauer vs solid snake, anime version
+Michiel Kudova More like Emiya Kiritsugu vs. Big Boss lol
+AICW Nah, more like a blonde anime version of Steven Seagal vs Volgin´s gay lover who looks like Raiden....
The Bolt Thrower
That's Raikov.
He kind of looks like Liquid too.
Batous boxing ability was killer tho.
鷹村VSブライアンホーク
them stock hl2 smg and blunt force sounds
Looooool
Batou try to remember the basics of cqc
Kuze wiped the floor with him, even with his outdated body.
Batou held up real well though and was messing him up at first
バトーが横槍無しで純粋に負けるなかなかレアな場面
No lie, this scene is how I learned to knife fight.
This and another manga that is kind of similar to Ghost in the Shell called Eden it's an endless world, taught me how to hold a knife and how to strike in vital points
If only the music during combat had been released!
So thats why you cant find it!! Darn!
Gonna scoop my eyes out with a spoon and put coins in the slots so I can be like Batou
Love gits but rewatching this it's weird battou has trouble with the ankle lock kuzes puts on him i really enjoy the grounded MMA style fight, very cool and i appreciate it much more now as an adult MMA practitioner.
すげえファイト！カッコイイ！！
You vs the guy she tell you not to worry about...
This fight might look slow to us meatbags, but I bet it's going like a bruce lee/jackie chan fight sequence were we to see it in person. These cyborgs are just processing the speed more quickly.
スタンド(ボクシングテクニックを中心とした立技)はバトーの方が上だけど
グラウンド(レスリングテクニックを中心とした寝技)でクゼの方に軍配だね
Unexpectably, someone could beat Batou (Major doesn't count)
Someone involved with that knife fight in "Macross" probably was kicking himself upon seeing this
格闘戦でバトーに勝つとか強いw
クゼのこの雰囲気好きやわー
love Batou
Dat soundtrack tho.
バトーさんは痛覚遮断してないか、軽減させてるかな？
つーか、これだけの深傷だと無理せず組織閉鎖してくれと言いたくなる。全身義体だからって血が通っていないわけじゃないんだから。全身サイボーグのブリアレオスは実際に組織閉鎖しなきゃならないレベルの重傷負った事あるしね。義体だって生身の部分が傷付けば死ぬ。
Batou disliked this. Lol
ナイフ戦でバトーのナイフとクゼのナイフが同じ側であれ？と思ったらバトーさんナイフは左持ちなんだね
銃の構えも殴り合いの構えも右利きスタンスなのに
ナイフだけなんか特殊な訓練でもしてたんかな？
2 guys stab at the air in front of each others faces.
すごく…ターミネーター２です
あっ井上俊之さんの作画だ。
Gotta admit, I feel like worse things routinely happened to me there on that map in First Assault... I was a Batou main, too, come to think of it.
Is that a Reboot profile pic?
@@JeffReeves Sure is!
@@Number-6 Such a great series. Haven't seen it in ages.
@@JeffReeves Agreed! It's alphanumeric!
He can dodge bullets but not jabs?
Bayou,section 9 and tachkomas disliked this
The half life 2 SMG sound :O
Emiya Kiritsuguru vs Rider
You'd think a society that has developed the technology to keep brains alive inside jars, create full body bulletproof cyborgs and keep them super energy efficient would also have created better firearms to counter those things already. If someone can stop your special forces rifle bullets with the palm of their hands you're probably doing something wrong...
They actually go through his hand, you can see the holes In the back of his hand when he's got Batou's leg.
He used his hand to absorb the impacts so they didn't hit his body as hard (but he still gets shot in the torso).
Kiryu: KUZE!!!!!!!
Oops, wrong Kuze
If feels off listening to the Subbed version because I am so used to the dubbed VAs.
烈海王とオーガ
ゆうくん負けてて草
Bira, bärs, öl och anime.
riktigt nice
Anime?
ここだけやたら作画がヌルってたよな。
Modern day anime fans will watch this clip and be like "What sloppy animation, theyre moving like robots, and they cant even bother animating his lips when he speaks"
You literally cannot tell me that the kick at 0:31 wasn't the worst animated kick I've seen in a high-budget anime. Rest of the choreography is fine, the jump-flips are a little much, but seriously, that kick made me burst out laughing the first time I saw this scene, it looks so legitimately pathetic.
@@Toothydeere Aww man really? I think that kick looks pretty good. Brought it up to above hip level, pulled it back, knocked the gun right out of Batous hand. Gotta keep in mind that their bodies are cybernetic and built for advanced physical movements, so its going to look weird. The beauty is that they animated it that way, instead of saying "hey theyre all cyborgs, but were just gonna make them move like normal humans". Theres like 18 frames to that kick
@@Raemnant I just really dislike how he kicks with the top of his feet, which makes it look even weaker than a kick with the heel. Looks like Batou just threw the gun away to make him feel better lol
@@Toothydeere lmao I know what you mean, the gun kinda flies off on an after thought. I think thats the curse of going slow motion here and there to empahsise the action. But it does look like he tosses it
Why the animation make it look like they’re barely moving?
Strength is in will
Brutal.
Kuze was a Zen Master. Batou is usually a brat.
Wheres batou shotgun hand.
Still one of my favorite anime characters. Batou is such a unique personality who’s deep with pain and trauma from his past which seeps into the show. No wonder he felt so close to Motoko as she was the only one who really understood what he was going through. Such a great series too. But you gotta watch the original Japanese voice acting as the English dub has zero depth to it and is terrible imo
I agree with you. Batou is a well-developped character who's got his time and purpose in the show. I also like how his personality shifts when he learns about Motoko's close link with Kuze, another person who lived some trauma and pain in the past. Both are great characters to fit with her.
I actually think the english dub for this one does a pretty good job, though it does fall short.
There are definitely parts in this series where the writing and dialogue are said a certain way in the native tongue that just does not translate into the english dub.
I believe motoko interferes behind the scenes
It's entirely too easy to presume this fight scene was meant to dare us to think, "They're fighting over HER"
Great choreography, but the half slow mo-half normal speed made it look a little awkward in a few places.
Audio would also heighten the tension if it sounded less cartoony.
Why did they drop their knives lol
Cyberpunk 2077 Batou run- Focus on Assault,Blade and entire Body tree. Minimal Intelligence tree but points may be spent on Quickhacking opponents eyes. “Nomad” path, Sympathy for Dogs,Mechs and Drones.
バトーさん負けたのはショックだったなぁ・・・
バトーさん
実戦で上段回し蹴り？？無いよ 死にたいん？
あらやだ強い
ほんっと、彼カッコよすぎて惚れちゃうわ＾〜
Thats not Anime that was ghost in the shell movie Address: Street, Apt, City, Country/Region, Province, Postal code