This was a really good, skillful game. Pleasure to watch. And also decent cast and quality comments, thanks for that! It's really nice to see that you have indeed listened to our feedback (sometimes also harsh comments from me and others), and have improved your cast and map awareness. Great job!
Perfectman showed the best protoss strategy for beating Jaedong. Jaedong leans so heavily on his ultralisk + defiler fighting style and since archons dont care about defiler spells and can stand with ultras, his style was nullified. Super good match.
💢freaking excellent protoss playing from perfect man with the reaver drops and pick ups with the DT under the dark swarm partner with archons! Best protoss playing I’ve seen from tons of matches you posted Paladin! Damn great replay!!
Definitely! I’ve probably watched about hmmm 26 videos now of yours and those only other great Protoss player I’ve seen is bijou (or however you spell it) but I’ve also watched some of his professional semi final and final battles against players like Jaedong. Bijou is amazing but man.. perfect man has some serious skills and some great micro going on. At first in the beginning I figured meh.. this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. Cmon he’s playing a legend Zerg player like Jaedong! And boom! Greatness comes out from Perfect man. Good patience and control. Exactly how a Protoss player needs to be. Not reckless
Man I remember playing this game when I was 14 on a 28.8 dial up modem and when brood war came out and was brand new. I already had Starcraft but brood war was such a necessary addition to it. They had to nerf zerg larvae rates because it was op. They had to make spawning pools cost more. They had to make dragoon’s range upgrade take them to 6. They were a meme before that. Scouts were awesome and usually making 36 of them in an FFA was the way to win. Lost Temple and Hunters were the best maps. When they nerfed scouts ground attack cool down I was so pissed. They also had to make carriers not suck but I can’t remember what they did. Such a good time
overall a bad composition i agree. but what else do you want to play if you avoid making a transition to hydras for the whole game? actually he forced himself avoiding that tech tree by pumping alooot of terrors in the early phase... however he should have made a (at least temporary) transition to hydras later. Perfectmans composition of reavers/zels/dts and many archs >> ultras/ling/swarm. switching to plague only and mixin in hydras could have been more effective at some moments. u just cant avoid a whole tech tree as a zerg in such a long ZvP. zergs advantages are actually the quick transitions which adapt to a protoss blob! not the other way around.
@@RRa-v You are saying that collector's edition f*cks up upgrade icons? Doubt so, becuse Falcon has casted hundreds of games, and upgrade icons showed up fine.
FYI, even if you're playing the old and new clients on the same machine, the old one would forcibly change your display resolution when it started up, whereas the new client (attempts) to keep it to your native resolution, which is why everything looks "downscaled". Try running the old vs. new clients in windowed mode, and you'll see how much smaller the resolution used to be.
Falcon the ultralisk blood was glorious. Zealots to tank, Dark templar to slice, Archons to Brawr!! With reavers in the backfield doing 125 splash! DT have perfect DPS vs ultra as long as zealots or archons are tanking!!!! Who is this perfect man...
@@Snaxophone True for other units, but Ultras are big enough that little splash is dealt, effectively making them a counter to Archons within Dark Swarm. Obviously, this was still not a great strategy though, due to the other aforementioned units - especially Reavers.
Maybe he got caught improving the long distance attack and dedicated himself to improving the attacks of Melee and carapace . Anyway perfectman would use the composition Dragoon + Hight Templar + Zealot + Reaver.
I legit said when i saw the remaster for the first time, "it looks exactly the same." It genuinely took me five minutes to notice the changes. I prefer this to the Warcraft 3 remaster, though
Dark Swarm does not affect melee units: example (zealots, reaver scarabs, dark templar, probes, firebats, 'lings, ultras, etc.) Archon attacks are mitigated but splash damage still deals damage. Same is true of siege tank fire. That's why Perfectman stopped making Dragoons.
@@iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053 "Archon attacks are mitigated but splash damage still deals damage. Same is true of siege tank fire" wow never knew that, I thought siege tanks and archons were exception and had no mitigation.
Nice voice. Hello from Ukraine, Kiev. You are a really good commentator. I am a big fan of Jaedong since he was EG player, those zerg rush in quater-semi and final games against protos was purely amazing, I would remember those mathces forever) Sadly that Jaedong left championship. I think it's because of low popularity of starcraft (look at Lol or Dota2), so commercialy if the game is not popular salary less then league of legends pro players(
Really tough to try and beat an army like perfectman's with just defiler, ultras and lings, I feel like Jaedong got cocky with his economy lead and tried to force a win by zerging down perfectman, later on once perfect man had enough archons it was pretty hard for him to win fights. What could Jaedong do at that point?, would queens help as support units with ensnare or broodling for HT's?, dark swarm was close to useless those last fights.
they were both amazing. Perfect was brilliant choosing Archon style. in the late game, money can be mined out, but gas never will. i think Jaedong should use Lurker.
Suggestion: If you cast this by creating private replay game on battlenet instead of single player the mini-map will update much faster which is nice when watching.
Great cast, SPOILER - seemed like JD started off strong with harassing the bases but after some of the aggression mid game he completely forgot to try and starve out protoss with continual base drops
So many archons. So much melee and splash damage. I would love to see more plague on enemy bases in situations like this. Seems like there’s no great answer to fighting the Protoss army. Maybe kill his economy instead?
Jaedong should have gone lurkers especially on his ramps as they have more dps. Maybe he could have had a queen ensnare the archons going up the ramp or mutas after he had destroyed nearly all of the corsairs.
i remember a caster, cant remember the name, but they would just make so many PerfectMan puns, like they say his pylon placement was 'perfect' and his zealot rushes were 'perfectly done' and his unit control was 'perfect'... what am i doing with my life lol....
I've noticed that every game you've casted from a year ago is zoomed in way too much. When did you start to zoom out? It's hard to watch the casts that are too far zoomed in.
10:05 Hearthstone, huh? Still playing? In any case, this was a great cast of a great game. Over the last two months I've watched almost all of your Brood War casts, including the old ones, and the change in quality is really evident. Just a minor issue - I feel you should be checking the player bases more often in the early to mid game, just so we get the idea what build they're going for. Other than that, you're making awesome casts. Cheers!
Bingo, Hearthstone. :) And yeah I play enough to do my daily quests most days. And I'll see what I can do about checking bases more often early. Thanks!
No problem! Also, you might want to take a look at Faeria if you find the time. It's a game similar to Hearthstone but features a tactical board where you summon your stuff. They transitioned to a premium model recently but there is very little grinding involved. TotalBiscuit, while he was still with us, made a very positive review of the game on RUclips when it was released. Definitely worth checking out.
In general SC2 feels way more flimsy than BW. Like everything moves and attacks double as fast, and everything dies twice as quick. It's like everything is made from wet tissue paper.
Do Protoss players ever use shield batteries? I’ve never seen them used. I guess it could be good in some kind of strange Archon defense barrier. Also, Reavers are so terrifying to fight against. I feel like a surprise Guardian push would have really help Jaedong. The reavers were crushing him. Guardians take very little damage from Corsairs if you have armor upgrades, and the Corsairs have no attack upgrades. Ultralisks seemed like a poor choice. Zealots and Archons are so beefy, and DT cut anything to pieces melee wise.
Daddy Falcoln, random question: has any pro ever used a tactical burrow in a pro match, or is it a completely wasted mechanic at that level? (Lurkers dont count, obviously) And now im wondering about other niche skills like the Nuke and mirror image
Explain something to me. Those topside ramps never existed back in the day, they're a new piece to better balance maps unfairly favoring cliff positions from one side. Probably from remastered? Or are they from third party map editors? Cause if they're from remastered... who in the hell looked at the terrain tiles on those and said "yeah looks great we'll call that finished" rather than telling them make it again?
Skill W of Defiler hasn’t effect on Archon and Reaver. Skill G hasn’t damage to shield plasma. Archon only has 10 bloods but has a lot of shield plasma
Obviously these guys know better than I ever will, but I really think Perfect should have kept up the air play and punishing Jaedongs overlord spread. Make him bleed and hurt for those high supply units like Ultras.
stupic Jaedong! He should change his strategy right after his strategy with Ultralisk+Jergling becomes ineffective! I think he should develop Lurker+Hydralisk for this game!
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RIP Dan the DT.
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"And the lings say 'give me your lunch money'.... and the probes say 'no'. And the Lings respect that." LOL
:D Glad you enjoyed that one.
We're addicted to these casts... You must not stop Falcon :)
I'll just tell you what I tell everyone who has ever said that: I'm not going anywhere. :)
No kidding. I need these casts.
@@FalconPaladin please don't, so many of my youtube Starcraft (/Starcraft 2) casters have disappeared without warning.
They forgot to pay “sc privilege” tax to Artosis
This was a really good, skillful game. Pleasure to watch. And also decent cast and quality comments, thanks for that! It's really nice to see that you have indeed listened to our feedback (sometimes also harsh comments from me and others), and have improved your cast and map awareness. Great job!
It's always a good day when two apex predators like ULTRA VS ARCHON duke it out tooth and nail! Good cast!
You are awesome - please don't stop with these wonderful casts. Keep up the good work.
Come down said the Ultras. "How about we storm you on the head" said the HT ;) So many epic lines in this commentary.
What a great game. Thanks Falcon
Should be an Epic Tag. What a great use of Archons and reavers
Mmmm okay.
It was so good I'm logging onto broodwar after work to build a bunch of archons.
+1 for epic tag
Sick protoss comp I would love to see more play of this caliber. I like how he mixed in a few DT's.
@@thecurbdog123 ARCHON RUSH!
Every scourge mission is a suicide mission.
Casey Sheppard A scourge mission with low casualties is a loss
Perfectman showed the best protoss strategy for beating Jaedong. Jaedong leans so heavily on his ultralisk + defiler fighting style and since archons dont care about defiler spells and can stand with ultras, his style was nullified. Super good match.
They do care about dark swarm! They only deal splash damage which is a heavy difference.
@@frednapf7762 yeah but he also had reavers and zealots which don't care about dark swarm
💢freaking excellent protoss playing from perfect man with the reaver drops and pick ups with the DT under the dark swarm partner with archons! Best protoss playing I’ve seen from tons of matches you posted Paladin! Damn great replay!!
Glad you enjoyed it! :) I need to cast some more PerfectMan games for sure.
Definitely! I’ve probably watched about hmmm 26 videos now of yours and those only other great Protoss player I’ve seen is bijou (or however you spell it) but I’ve also watched some of his professional semi final and final battles against players like Jaedong. Bijou is amazing but man.. perfect man has some serious skills and some great micro going on. At first in the beginning I figured meh.. this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. Cmon he’s playing a legend Zerg player like Jaedong! And boom! Greatness comes out from Perfect man. Good patience and control. Exactly how a Protoss player needs to be. Not reckless
Don't be so harsh on Dan. He didn't really have anywhere to go.
How could you not know Perfect Man existed? I've been here for quite a while now!
“Remastuuuuuuurd”
Im a little late but Keep em comin
That shuttle/reaver control tipped the scales in every late-game engagement
Very fun game to watch. Awesome Protoss composition to see in action.
Man I remember playing this game when I was 14 on a 28.8 dial up modem and when brood war came out and was brand new. I already had Starcraft but brood war was such a necessary addition to it. They had to nerf zerg larvae rates because it was op. They had to make spawning pools cost more. They had to make dragoon’s range upgrade take them to 6. They were a meme before that. Scouts were awesome and usually making 36 of them in an FFA was the way to win. Lost Temple and Hunters were the best maps. When they nerfed scouts ground attack cool down I was so pissed. They also had to make carriers not suck but I can’t remember what they did. Such a good time
I love how red Protoss look. They look like Chinese lucky charms
Weird meta. Jeadong played a composition as if he was facing a terran.
You're wrong.
overall a bad composition i agree. but what else do you want to play if you avoid making a transition to hydras for the whole game? actually he forced himself avoiding that tech tree by pumping alooot of terrors in the early phase... however he should have made a (at least temporary) transition to hydras later. Perfectmans composition of reavers/zels/dts and many archs >> ultras/ling/swarm.
switching to plague only and mixin in hydras could have been more effective at some moments. u just cant avoid a whole tech tree as a zerg in such a long ZvP. zergs advantages are actually the quick transitions which adapt to a protoss blob! not the other way around.
its always so much fun to see jaedong play.
really good cast, go on Friend Falcon! Greetz from Germany :D
What's wrong with units upgrade icons?
What do you mean?
@@FalconPaladin they a transparent
Collectors edition skin
@@RRa-v You are saying that collector's edition f*cks up upgrade icons? Doubt so, becuse Falcon has casted hundreds of games, and upgrade icons showed up fine.
I don’t know why, but I was soo happy to see jaedong finally lose; great cast!
I feel like 90% of these games are Z v P and Jaedong looses.
wow most epic battle I've ever seen... (That video title is not lying)
FYI, even if you're playing the old and new clients on the same machine, the old one would forcibly change your display resolution when it started up, whereas the new client (attempts) to keep it to your native resolution, which is why everything looks "downscaled".
Try running the old vs. new clients in windowed mode, and you'll see how much smaller the resolution used to be.
Please keep up the great work! Many thanks!
Great game great commentator
i´m impress that the final result but i´m still enjoy for the begining at the end
Archon vs Ultra + Jaedong = EPICNESS
"This is our town, scrub." Name that game: Hearthstone.
Winner!
Man if at 19:20 Jaedong had just two Queens use Ensnare on those Archons and DT's he would've stomped them and won the game instantly. Sad.
These guys never use ensnare...i think it makes zero sense. Great spell if used properly.
finally somebody who can beat Jaedong's ling ultra defiler + nice reaver micro
Falcon the ultralisk blood was glorious. Zealots to tank, Dark templar to slice, Archons to Brawr!! With reavers in the backfield doing 125 splash! DT have perfect DPS vs ultra as long as zealots or archons are tanking!!!! Who is this perfect man...
I don't know, but I want to see more of this!!
Saludos desde Perú =P siempre veo tus vids de Brood War.
Pensé que era el único :'v
Saludos desde los Estados Unidos! ¡Bienvenido!
"Drones said no, and lings respect that")))
Does dark swarm even work when its just zealots, archon, dt, and reaver?
DukeNukemDesign I think it does affect Archons....
Captain Goomba The splash still lands, so not much difference.
@@Snaxophone True for other units, but Ultras are big enough that little splash is dealt, effectively making them a counter to Archons within Dark Swarm. Obviously, this was still not a great strategy though, due to the other aforementioned units - especially Reavers.
I’m actually really surprised we didn’t see lurkers, can anyone explain why he didn’t use them?
Maybe he got caught improving the long distance attack and dedicated himself to improving the attacks of Melee and carapace
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Anyway perfectman would use the composition Dragoon + Hight Templar + Zealot + Reaver.
3:21 doesn’t seem like Jaedong would just leave a drone not mining minerals at the bottom of the mineral field
No StarCraft player is infallible. :)
As artosis once said-
I legit said when i saw the remaster for the first time, "it looks exactly the same." It genuinely took me five minutes to notice the changes. I prefer this to the Warcraft 3 remaster, though
Falcon "knock me over with a feather " Paladin!
What does dark swarm do vs archons and zealots?
I was wondering the same thing, someone help plz
Dark Swarm does not affect melee units: example (zealots, reaver scarabs, dark templar, probes, firebats, 'lings, ultras, etc.) Archon attacks are mitigated but splash damage still deals damage. Same is true of siege tank fire. That's why Perfectman stopped making Dragoons.
@@iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053 "Archon attacks are mitigated but splash damage still deals damage. Same is true of siege tank fire" wow never knew that, I thought siege tanks and archons were exception and had no mitigation.
That silence after Dan the DT died killed me.
😁
Nice voice. Hello from Ukraine, Kiev. You are a really good commentator. I am a big fan of Jaedong since he was EG player, those zerg rush in quater-semi and final games against protos was purely amazing, I would remember those mathces forever) Sadly that Jaedong left championship. I think it's because of low popularity of starcraft (look at Lol or Dota2), so commercialy if the game is not popular salary less then league of legends pro players(
Thank you. :)
Yo, FP, Thanks for doing these all the time. If you don’t mind me asking, can you do more 3v3’s please?
he did one last week. it was awesome!
I think the problem is finding high level team game replays
majermike saw it, loved it! I was going to recommend a person who does amazing 3v3 and 4v4 games. It’s a person just labeled Ilovesc.
ruclips.net/video/d0rQMsqs6yE/видео.html
Is there any way to get this to our friend falcon Paladin?
@@shawnberry760 yea I love Ilovesc's videos. would be better if the players didnt suck though. sometimes i cringe so hard i have to turn it off.
Really tough to try and beat an army like perfectman's with just defiler, ultras and lings, I feel like Jaedong got cocky with his economy lead and tried to force a win by zerging down perfectman, later on once perfect man had enough archons it was pretty hard for him to win fights. What could Jaedong do at that point?, would queens help as support units with ensnare or broodling for HT's?, dark swarm was close to useless those last fights.
10:40 SC is really about being at the RIGHT place at the RIGHT time!
I love you for quoting Beast in this video!
@ 35:47 it says "Obersvers" instead of Observers under the Obvservers name what the hell?
Dunno. :)
they were both amazing.
Perfect was brilliant choosing Archon style. in the late game, money can be mined out, but gas never will.
i think Jaedong should use Lurker.
It has seemed like Jae dong has had like 12 Zerglings and 6 mutas all game and somehow has kept himself alive against a huge Protoss death ball
He needed Hydras vs the archons
Suggestion: If you cast this by creating private replay game on battlenet instead of single player the mini-map will update much faster which is nice when watching.
Red Protoss looks amazing
I find this game to be so fun to watch but the only problem is I'm absolutely terrible when I try to play myself
first time I see the Jaedong being choked like this
I prefer the old graphics. Anytime you want to do a replay with those it'd be a treat
24:34 Old times when chaos have not yet become abject 😂
:D
what is the answer to archon reaver?
Mass hydra and come in from all angles. Try to get some lings in there to soak up reaver shots. Easier said than done. :)
@@FalconPaladin what if psy storm is added to the mix? thanks for the great replays.
30:40 "bla bla say the archons" ;)))
Rip Dan
hey how'd you make that sick intro for your video bud? i've been enjoying your uploads, keep it up buddy
Guy approached me and offered to make me one, four years ago now.
@@FalconPaladin oh that's lucky lol, well I enjoy your videos. Maybe you would like some of mine
10:05 Yeah, beat it!
Great cast, SPOILER - seemed like JD started off strong with harassing the bases but after some of the aggression mid game he completely forgot to try and starve out protoss with continual base drops
So many archons. So much melee and splash damage. I would love to see more plague on enemy bases in situations like this. Seems like there’s no great answer to fighting the Protoss army. Maybe kill his economy instead?
Jaedong should have gone lurkers especially on his ramps as they have more dps. Maybe he could have had a queen ensnare the archons going up the ramp or mutas after he had destroyed nearly all of the corsairs.
i remember a caster, cant remember the name, but they would just make so many PerfectMan puns, like they say his pylon placement was 'perfect' and his zealot rushes were 'perfectly done' and his unit control was 'perfect'...
what am i doing with my life lol....
I've noticed that every game you've casted from a year ago is zoomed in way too much. When did you start to zoom out? It's hard to watch the casts that are too far zoomed in.
Well, in the original BW client, you couldn't zoom out at all, and that's what I used when first started casing BW. I guess that's why. :)
Is lurker being banned…?
10:05 Hearthstone, huh? Still playing?
In any case, this was a great cast of a great game. Over the last two months I've watched almost all of your Brood War casts, including the old ones, and the change in quality is really evident. Just a minor issue - I feel you should be checking the player bases more often in the early to mid game, just so we get the idea what build they're going for. Other than that, you're making awesome casts. Cheers!
Bingo, Hearthstone. :) And yeah I play enough to do my daily quests most days.
And I'll see what I can do about checking bases more often early. Thanks!
No problem! Also, you might want to take a look at Faeria if you find the time. It's a game similar to Hearthstone but features a tactical board where you summon your stuff. They transitioned to a premium model recently but there is very little grinding involved. TotalBiscuit, while he was still with us, made a very positive review of the game on RUclips when it was released. Definitely worth checking out.
that's so exiting!!!!
god i wish zealots were this useful and tanky in SC2
In general SC2 feels way more flimsy than BW. Like everything moves and attacks double as fast, and everything dies twice as quick. It's like everything is made from wet tissue paper.
i dont get it, why is jaedong using swarm against an army of Archons and zlots?
No one knows. Even plague is kind of weak.
Yeah! beat it!
happy to see Jaedong being beaten
Jaedong had an idle drone for a full minute from 2:44 to 3:57
The one in the bottom left of the mineral line that ends up aggroing on the probe scout
Perfectmen played too good ! Look at Jaedong running away from him.
BW PvZ is the best game in all Starcraft
Nice surprise 😎
"Go away scrub!!" LOL
Falcon for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:10 не, ну тут в кассу пойдут и красные архонты. -2 ультра одним движением руки + 2 ландоаых юнита
Terran music on pvz ❤️
I hope I get a shout out..in the words of Artosis the proud..i love that the enemies of terran tear one another apart😁
is this stork?
liquipedia.net/starcraft/PerfectMan
Nice !
Jaedong is my favorite player ever.
Do Protoss players ever use shield batteries? I’ve never seen them used. I guess it could be good in some kind of strange Archon defense barrier. Also, Reavers are so terrifying to fight against. I feel like a surprise Guardian push would have really help Jaedong. The reavers were crushing him. Guardians take very little damage from Corsairs if you have armor upgrades, and the Corsairs have no attack upgrades. Ultralisks seemed like a poor choice. Zealots and Archons are so beefy, and DT cut anything to pieces melee wise.
Daddy Falcoln, random question: has any pro ever used a tactical burrow in a pro match, or is it a completely wasted mechanic at that level?
(Lurkers dont count, obviously)
And now im wondering about other niche skills like the Nuke and mirror image
Does this count? ruclips.net/video/-zVhWJoDA44/видео.html
Explain something to me. Those topside ramps never existed back in the day, they're a new piece to better balance maps unfairly favoring cliff positions from one side. Probably from remastered? Or are they from third party map editors?
Cause if they're from remastered... who in the hell looked at the terrain tiles on those and said "yeah looks great we'll call that finished" rather than telling them make it again?
Skill W of Defiler hasn’t effect on Archon and Reaver.
Skill G hasn’t damage to shield plasma. Archon only has 10 bloods but has a lot of shield plasma
the automatic video ads will be the death of RUclips
12:17 Bruh moment
Perfect man makes archons look op
what a game!
You're better than HuskyStarcraft!
Obviously these guys know better than I ever will, but I really think Perfect should have kept up the air play and punishing Jaedongs overlord spread. Make him bleed and hurt for those high supply units like Ultras.
Press F for Dan
Can we have your lunch money, lmao
:D
Falcon, learn me something. Why didn't Jaedong make hydras to kite the archons and deal with corsair? 0 hydras and lurkers.
stupic Jaedong! He should change his strategy right after his strategy with Ultralisk+Jergling becomes ineffective!
I think he should develop Lurker+Hydralisk for this game!