The key thing you were missing here was distance - you missed a few double shots because you were too close and the projectile reached them faster than you could reset. For example, Soraka can potentially get 3 Sundered Sky crits off with just AA's if you have enough attack speed.
@@D.KlWA-aG rapid firecannon wouldn't be good for getting maximum sundered sky because after the first auto you'd have to walk in to make up for the lost range and unless you manage to also have enough move speed to be faster than her auto then you're losing time not gaining it
He would be fine. Zwag is one of the single most careful LoL players I've ever seen. Listen to him play "I'm not gonna stay here, I know the jungler is around." and the jungler is like...bot lane. He just plays like the jg is always there. If you always assume you're getting ganked, you'll be ready for when you actually are.
@jordannainoca230 not necessarily meant to be a challenge to a person whose played league since release. Meant to be entertaining for his viewers since most everyone is low elo(im bronze cuz i dont like ranked)
I very carefully watched at .25 playback speed and didn't see anything duplicated. The second auto even does slightly less damage because it doesn't have the headshot modifier but does have the titanic active modifier. At one point it was very clearly 725 crit headshot +125 magic damage then 695 crit titanic auto with no magic damage. In practice though the end result is similar enough to not matter. Oddly enough I do see the heal from sundered happen twice though.
Also, the bullet does go to the head both times like typically only her headshot does. Though that might just be from the titanic active. Cait does have auto-reset in her kit on her W headshots, so it may just be that any auto-reset behaves like a headshot, even if it's not actually a headshot. The sundered was also definitely activating twice. Since he has 0 crit chance at 13:25 and when he goes on Sol and he gets 2 crits.
Clearly the headshot duplicate even the animation... only the energizer items didn't duplicate, 725 and 695, 30 dmg is not the difference between a cait headshot and a regular auto. But it is weird the 30 dmg difference 🤔 such a small difference maybe is the titanic extra dmg 🤔
@@peedddro23 He activates the titanic for the second auto. Titanic active adds 30 damage per 1k max health to ranged champs so around 70ish damage at that stage. He also wasn't at the max damage breakpoint for headshot damage since it scales with level. Later on you can see the headshot does 1.2k+ and the second shot does considerably less.
Sundered Sky does not count as 100% crit chance. Headshots ability to critically strike and the damage scaling it gets from crit chance are two separate things.
While true, the amount of damage he was dealing with headshots with only 0% or 20% crit chance early was disgusting. Remember, they nerfed Caitlyn specifically so the Lethality builds would have to sprinkle in crit or so she'd have to go crit in general. 10:36 His headshots were dealing 309-ish with 202 AD when he first bought Titanic (which was 14 on hit, so a 295 headshot). ASOL has 47 armor, so 433 premitigation. 13:25 his first Sundered Sky headshot was 481 with 247 AD (minus the Titanic on hit is a 462 raw crit). ASOL has 56 armor, so 721 premitigation. Per Headshot's text, it deals (at level 13 for example), 1.2*AD plus 1.4875*CritChance. Since he has zero crit chance, the first headshot at 10:36 makes sense: 202 AD plus (at the time) 0.9*AD or 181, for a total of 383 (math doesn't perfectly check out so I assume there's other weird stuff going on in Riot's code or display system). Once he buys SS, he still has zero crit chance and is only level 12, so the bonus damage should be 0.9*247 AD, or 222. This adds to the 1.5 crit of SS, which is 370, for a total of 592. 383 headshot, buy 45 AD, get a 592 headshot crit. Plus the 19 damage Titanic proc, 611 total, premitigation. Seems simple. After 56 armor, ASOL takes 392 damage, right? But ASOL didn't take 392 damage. lol. He took 481 damage. LMFAO. There's 110 premitigation damage (70 post-armor damage) not being explained. Again, I'm not 100% sure if Riot's little damage splashes are entirely accurate, or what other damage reduction or multipliers are at play here like Cut the Grass, however, a sudden "boost" of 100% crit chance to that target would increase Caitlyn's headshot by about 149 damage. 247 AD * 1.5, plus 247 AD * 0.9, plus 1.49 * 100 crit almost perfectly explains the damage. tl;dr - Yes, Caitlyn's Headshots seem to be using Sundered Sky's "100% Crit Chance On Your First Auto" in its bonus damage.
@@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli Sundered Sky is currently bugged, the crit auto deals the full 170% damage not 150%, this accounts for the discrepancy in the damage Asol took in your calculations.
21:13 Here his first auto (headshot SS crit) against Jhin is 708. Jhin has 86 armor, so that's 1317 premitigation. This is split into 22 damage from Titanic, 1.5*371 AD from the crit if the auto wasn't naturally a crit (do we know if the 1.75 crits override SS crits? Or do you lose damage with that item in a crit build? LOL). The last component is the headshot. The headshot is 738 damage. He's over level 13 now, so it's 1.2*371 plus 1.49*crit (30 extra damage?). That would be 475. But I guess the math still doesn't check out, since getting the full "100% crit" calc would still only put it at 594. Of course, if he naturally crit for 175%, then the headshot component would have been 645, which is a bit closer. Either way, the amount of damage he's dealing is absolutely not explainable unless these Sundered Sky autos are being used as 100% crit" by headshot.
@@jakesteel4916 Ah that makes sense. Even when considering the full damage from Sundered Sky, there's still a whole bunch of unexplained damage in his headshots. lol. There is another possibility, though. Sundered Sky could be a "different" thing than crit entirely, and is applying the crit bonus to the headshot damage. Either way, these headshots are dealing way too much damage. lmfao.
Always enjoy the content man! Been watching your videos for some time now, and I've learned a lot of what I know because of your gameplay and tactics. Side note, I also don't understand why they would remove the stats from certain items. I'd imagine it's essentially rebuilding the database to accomodate all of the new items. I'm hoping that they release a patch to start keeping stats on the items again. Keep doing what you're doing!
To play on what you said, ya LDR is strong even against base armor, late game you as cait still had 107 armor... LDR gave the equivalent of 31 lethality against your armor amount... which is far more than any lethality item would give. Take it against someone who builds a little armor and an item with good value sky rockets in value. Even just a zhonyas on the enemy makes it an amazing purchase
I rememer in early LoL days (maybe even beta) when there was a glitch on twisted fate. You could pull 2 gold cards direclty after each other, ending up in a 6 second stun :D
I used to play Twisted Fate with Predator and all the move speed tunes. And then go Luden's and Lich bane for the One-shot blue card. Can you make a similar build for this season? Thanks. Love the videos, i watch every day in the background while i play Minecraft. Love from Portugal
Could you do the Lizard Wizard build again, would like to see Renekton with Malignance, Riftmaker, Liandrys, ultimate hunter and then maybe throwing in an Experimental Hexplate.
when you sold the refill for a ruby crystal, you said that it's worth it because it only gives 50 less hp, but doesn't that still mean you spent money to get weaker? especially considering that your lane opponent does max health dmg?
@@guifdcanalli I wonder how it affects Sett's autos or Akshan's. I think already know how it'll affect Akshan, he'll just get 4 fast hits. But Sett has an auto empowering ability and you could reset your auto after the first hit. So it might be able to get 3 hits of his empowered Q. It would also be interesting to see how it interacts with rageblade, if the double on-hit occurs twice. Vayne Tumble, Aatrox passive, Gragas W, Kennen W passive, and Quinn passive are also of note. Quinn passive seems like a really interesting one since the projectile does change for her passive hits. The question is, does consuming the mark do the extra damage, or does the special projectile to the extra damage?
The title makes no sense. It's literally 2 shots Some people take a final mercy towards themselves, and one-shoot themselves in the head. Imagine what a hassle it would be for me to "one-shot" myself, and then have to do it again
Guys if anyone can help ... i tried using jhin ult without pressing R again after pressing it.. but i have to press r again to shoot while i want to click only like pro players but i donot know how does anyone know?
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24:46 I laughed so hard after that Seraphine flash
The key thing you were missing here was distance - you missed a few double shots because you were too close and the projectile reached them faster than you could reset. For example, Soraka can potentially get 3 Sundered Sky crits off with just AA's if you have enough attack speed.
Wait...stop giving me stupid ideas xD
What would you build for Sundered Sky Soraka (for no particular reason)
@@ariapriva maybe the range thing with a bunch of atk speed
@@D.KlWA-aG rapid firecannon wouldn't be good for getting maximum sundered sky because after the first auto you'd have to walk in to make up for the lost range and unless you manage to also have enough move speed to be faster than her auto then you're losing time not gaining it
@@shanedancer3895 what build then
Saw my Caitlyn rushed titanic, thought I’d check Zwag… yep I was right. We lost that game 😂
Not like he's the reason rn, its hyped build
But yeah if you see offmeta wacky build, chances are - zwag posted something funny
Hey is this still works?
Day 1 of asking for locked screen only gameplay(I wanna see him suffer like my teammates make me suffer)
😂😂😂😂😂
He would be fine. Zwag is one of the single most careful LoL players I've ever seen. Listen to him play "I'm not gonna stay here, I know the jungler is around." and the jungler is like...bot lane. He just plays like the jg is always there. If you always assume you're getting ganked, you'll be ready for when you actually are.
@@ZerglingOne1 true dat, but still,locked camera and hopefully rotatin for obj should be fun to see
Thats like asking a Manual driver to try an auto. No challenge at all.
@jordannainoca230 not necessarily meant to be a challenge to a person whose played league since release. Meant to be entertaining for his viewers since most everyone is low elo(im bronze cuz i dont like ranked)
But I'm STILL shootin', and I'm STILL gettin' headshots, and it's like BOOM! HEADSHOT! BOOM! HEADSHOT!
Underated comment
Kids these days don't understand the reference @@liamemond160
8:34 that one for sure is a tilter lol
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
No, he missed a caster minion
Lose Streak: 4
I very carefully watched at .25 playback speed and didn't see anything duplicated. The second auto even does slightly less damage because it doesn't have the headshot modifier but does have the titanic active modifier. At one point it was very clearly 725 crit headshot +125 magic damage then 695 crit titanic auto with no magic damage. In practice though the end result is similar enough to not matter.
Oddly enough I do see the heal from sundered happen twice though.
Also, the bullet does go to the head both times like typically only her headshot does. Though that might just be from the titanic active. Cait does have auto-reset in her kit on her W headshots, so it may just be that any auto-reset behaves like a headshot, even if it's not actually a headshot. The sundered was also definitely activating twice. Since he has 0 crit chance at 13:25 and when he goes on Sol and he gets 2 crits.
Clearly the headshot duplicate even the animation... only the energizer items didn't duplicate, 725 and 695, 30 dmg is not the difference between a cait headshot and a regular auto. But it is weird the 30 dmg difference 🤔 such a small difference maybe is the titanic extra dmg 🤔
@@peedddro23 He activates the titanic for the second auto. Titanic active adds 30 damage per 1k max health to ranged champs so around 70ish damage at that stage. He also wasn't at the max damage breakpoint for headshot damage since it scales with level. Later on you can see the headshot does 1.2k+ and the second shot does considerably less.
@@Waylan23nope not true I have seen 1st do 1.8k and second 1.7k
@@JackDaniels-ct5wz Maybe so. I didn't watch them all in slow motion. The few I did watch had the big damage difference though.
7:00 « giving an auto reset to assassin would be busted » oh dis you see the new lethality hydra ? 😂
8:30 is why you never TP vs a lane-pushing cait 😂
19:10 zwag channels his inner vegeta and temps fate letting them charge up n shit
Leblanc seems to be a bit op this season would love to see you play it.😊
He played an ARAM on her.
@@halvarianknight4477 yeah but ARAM feels different to a normal game, still fun to watch.
29:22 PAID ACTORS
Sundered Sky does not count as 100% crit chance. Headshots ability to critically strike and the damage scaling it gets from crit chance are two separate things.
While true, the amount of damage he was dealing with headshots with only 0% or 20% crit chance early was disgusting.
Remember, they nerfed Caitlyn specifically so the Lethality builds would have to sprinkle in crit or so she'd have to go crit in general.
10:36 His headshots were dealing 309-ish with 202 AD when he first bought Titanic (which was 14 on hit, so a 295 headshot). ASOL has 47 armor, so 433 premitigation.
13:25 his first Sundered Sky headshot was 481 with 247 AD (minus the Titanic on hit is a 462 raw crit). ASOL has 56 armor, so 721 premitigation.
Per Headshot's text, it deals (at level 13 for example), 1.2*AD plus 1.4875*CritChance.
Since he has zero crit chance, the first headshot at 10:36 makes sense: 202 AD plus (at the time) 0.9*AD or 181, for a total of 383 (math doesn't perfectly check out so I assume there's other weird stuff going on in Riot's code or display system).
Once he buys SS, he still has zero crit chance and is only level 12, so the bonus damage should be 0.9*247 AD, or 222. This adds to the 1.5 crit of SS, which is 370, for a total of 592.
383 headshot, buy 45 AD, get a 592 headshot crit. Plus the 19 damage Titanic proc, 611 total, premitigation. Seems simple. After 56 armor, ASOL takes 392 damage, right?
But ASOL didn't take 392 damage. lol. He took 481 damage. LMFAO.
There's 110 premitigation damage (70 post-armor damage) not being explained. Again, I'm not 100% sure if Riot's little damage splashes are entirely accurate, or what other damage reduction or multipliers are at play here like Cut the Grass, however, a sudden "boost" of 100% crit chance to that target would increase Caitlyn's headshot by about 149 damage.
247 AD * 1.5, plus 247 AD * 0.9, plus 1.49 * 100 crit almost perfectly explains the damage.
tl;dr - Yes, Caitlyn's Headshots seem to be using Sundered Sky's "100% Crit Chance On Your First Auto" in its bonus damage.
@@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli Sundered Sky is currently bugged, the crit auto deals the full 170% damage not 150%, this accounts for the discrepancy in the damage Asol took in your calculations.
21:13 Here his first auto (headshot SS crit) against Jhin is 708. Jhin has 86 armor, so that's 1317 premitigation.
This is split into 22 damage from Titanic, 1.5*371 AD from the crit if the auto wasn't naturally a crit (do we know if the 1.75 crits override SS crits? Or do you lose damage with that item in a crit build? LOL). The last component is the headshot. The headshot is 738 damage.
He's over level 13 now, so it's 1.2*371 plus 1.49*crit (30 extra damage?). That would be 475.
But I guess the math still doesn't check out, since getting the full "100% crit" calc would still only put it at 594.
Of course, if he naturally crit for 175%, then the headshot component would have been 645, which is a bit closer.
Either way, the amount of damage he's dealing is absolutely not explainable unless these Sundered Sky autos are being used as
100% crit" by headshot.
@@jakesteel4916 Ah that makes sense. Even when considering the full damage from Sundered Sky, there's still a whole bunch of unexplained damage in his headshots. lol.
There is another possibility, though. Sundered Sky could be a "different" thing than crit entirely, and is applying the crit bonus to the headshot damage.
Either way, these headshots are dealing way too much damage. lmfao.
@@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli Agreed, there's definitely something fucky going on in this interaction lol
The q does full damage to those revealed by the trap. So I'd assume however long the reveal lasts from the trap is the window for full damage
apparently this also works with draven and sundered sky, it does stupid amounts of damage as well with 2 crits
2:23 aphelios main theme mentioned 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥💪🔫🌑🌒🌓🌔🌔🌕
Yayy my fav RUclipsr uploaded!!! 😊
Always enjoy the content man! Been watching your videos for some time now, and I've learned a lot of what I know because of your gameplay and tactics.
Side note, I also don't understand why they would remove the stats from certain items. I'd imagine it's essentially rebuilding the database to accomodate all of the new items. I'm hoping that they release a patch to start keeping stats on the items again.
Keep doing what you're doing!
Graves been real quiet since this dropped
This build is irl sniper vs literal deer
To play on what you said, ya LDR is strong even against base armor, late game you as cait still had 107 armor... LDR gave the equivalent of 31 lethality against your armor amount... which is far more than any lethality item would give. Take it against someone who builds a little armor and an item with good value sky rockets in value. Even just a zhonyas on the enemy makes it an amazing purchase
I rememer in early LoL days (maybe even beta) when there was a glitch on twisted fate. You could pull 2 gold cards direclty after each other, ending up in a 6 second stun :D
You need to go MF with axiom arc, malignance, and experimental hexplate and ultimate hunter for the ultimate ult reset/cooldown.
if you take ingenious hunter with this and refresh that sundered sky you mightve survived the 16:30 fight
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
I used to play Twisted Fate with Predator and all the move speed tunes. And then go Luden's and Lich bane for the One-shot blue card. Can you make a similar build for this season? Thanks. Love the videos, i watch every day in the background while i play Minecraft. Love from Portugal
Team damage 76265 combined (excluding yourself)
Your damage 76247
Okay. BUT! Does this work with thresh charged auto?? From his E??? This combined with souls collected could be crazy high damage!
any fun build for Udyr?
love ur content btw, much love from Egypt :)
can u imagine being in gold and getting matched against zwag's caitlyn while theres a double headshot bug going on lol. poor asol :(
s/o runescape tune 6:40
I wonder how this would perform with ruunan’s
15:34 youre first hit get soaked by Seraph's Embrace shield
the golden sun background music me like XD
What if you put hullbreaker? It's on every fifth attack as caits passive and i guess you can activate hydra too. Sounds like 2-3k dmg on turret
What music is playing between 24-26 minutes?❤
Do you think this works on nasus for the double bonk?
Melee attacks have no travel time, so it doesn't work/give 2 Bonk-empowered autos.
Bonk has the cd cause it's still an ability
Aphėlios thème in the back is hot 🔥with your gameplay ofc 😂
You had almost the same amount of kills as the entire other team combined😂
And the same damage of the rest of his team
@@gustavowr9367 it's just his way of supporting the team, highest damage I ever got was 55k so truly insane😂
Could you do the Lizard Wizard build again, would like to see Renekton with Malignance, Riftmaker, Liandrys, ultimate hunter and then maybe throwing in an Experimental Hexplate.
Whys the color of your minion diff?
With Fiora, Yi, and Jax works too?
Genuine question could the dragon put a ward behind his turret and tp to it instead so he wouldn’t get hit by zwag on spawn or nah?
He could as long as Zwag doesnt see the ward being placed, then he can just clear it/get someone else to clear it
Would the rest work with threshs passive
Had the thought 10 minutes ahead of me😂
I wonder if this works with Jhin 4th auto as well
I wanna see a pantheon build!
zwag, I always leave a like before the video finishes loading!
So, do you think this works on Nasus's Q?
Syphoning Strike, pop Titanic, clone the Q bonus?
Nope. There's no travel time for melee attacks. They resolve the empowered usage instantly.
Second skin of the day: Lunar Wraith Caitlyn.
That asol got VIOLATED holy
I wonder if that bug works on Twisted Fate
I remember you made that night harvest Karma build but night harvest is no longer in the game could you make a new Karma build
I saw a rod of ages spirit visage karma build that was just disgustingly op
New bug zwag. Zeri can double Q if you mash the button fast enough. So instead of 1.5 atk speed you end up doubling it minus the animation.
Who is better vladi or aurelion full ad?
the double headshot happens at 10:34
when you sold the refill for a ruby crystal, you said that it's worth it because it only gives 50 less hp, but doesn't that still mean you spent money to get weaker? especially considering that your lane opponent does max health dmg?
Love your content. I'm new to LoL so this is all great info for myself.
the 5th shot headshot the tower too
Could you do this build with Jhins 4th shot as well?
Unfortunately, Jhin can't reset 4th shot as he has to reload.
His trick is shooting the 4th shot faster by animation canceling so it goes 1, 2, 3 & 4.
Do experimental build on ziggs
This works with jhin. He can auto reset even if he has no bullets left (as far as im aware it hasnt been patched)
does this bug only apply to caitlyn or also other adcs like jhin?
@@guifdcanalli I wonder how it affects Sett's autos or Akshan's. I think already know how it'll affect Akshan, he'll just get 4 fast hits. But Sett has an auto empowering ability and you could reset your auto after the first hit. So it might be able to get 3 hits of his empowered Q.
It would also be interesting to see how it interacts with rageblade, if the double on-hit occurs twice. Vayne Tumble, Aatrox passive, Gragas W, Kennen W passive, and Quinn passive are also of note. Quinn passive seems like a really interesting one since the projectile does change for her passive hits. The question is, does consuming the mark do the extra damage, or does the special projectile to the extra damage?
Nasus Q?
OMG CAN YOU DO THIS WITH THRESH AUTO?????
this is what happens when caitlyn runs out of rifle ammo, she uses shotgun
tried ur build worked not bad but could not finish... as the new season started and its so hard to climb solo in ranked. only trolls and bots
if it clones an auto, double jhin 4th shot?
How does the double headshot work guys? is it headshot auto, and just press hydra? or what. Teach me xD
The title makes no sense. It's literally 2 shots
Some people take a final mercy towards themselves, and one-shoot themselves in the head. Imagine what a hassle it would be for me to "one-shot" myself, and then have to do it again
can try this build on jhin?maybe 4th shot got extra?🤣
One-shot Taliyah might be a fun build
Guys if anyone can help ... i tried using jhin ult without pressing R again after pressing it.. but i have to press r again to shoot while i want to click only like pro players but i donot know how does anyone know?
Wheres the feet cam guy at?
Always a fun time seeing Aurelion Sol players getting completely dumpstered
Playing vs ai is kinda entertaining to watch. That ASol was def a bot.
Asol feels really really bad this season..
I tried this but didnt even get to the hydra :(
Talon jayce or viktor gameplay would be dopw
Can you do kennen mind pls?
Need some Naafiri action
8:40 spawn kill
sniper jinx, sniper cait.. whos next?
i want to show u some funny glitch in the game if u want to post them! i am playinng from season 1
Heartsteel, riftmaker, full ap
Kindred count
Count since the last video 16 days
Last record of 88, 222, 139, 63 days
Kraken would have been fun. Third shot funs
what's your favorite food?
Yo, that is not even a shotgun. More like a 4-bore rifle
Bruh what elo is this.. that Sol played like he didn’t know what cait did
Ap nasus
Ult now BURN three times more
4000? Jhin approves.😌
That was disgusting zwag on so many levels Caitlyn is NOT I repeat do 4000 DMG on a single shot it was funny watching them 💣 boom in 2 shots lol😂
I haven't watched thw video yet, but I may need to play some caitlyn
Caitlyn but she confiscated graves shotgun
Solid logic lol
Idk if it works on summoner’s rift, but in aram you can build infinity edge and rageblade at the same time now. Give it a shot!
Hey man, no flame but did you start playing during the time mythics were a thing?
It works because rageblade once again does not have anything to do with crit
@@adamreed8529 a season prior to that, so yeah I didnt know that was normal before that 😅
@@adamreed8529 I thought rageblade removed all crit chance since day 1
@@mohammadal-hasan586 that's cool man, always nice to see people picking up a game I've loved for years. Enjoy all the new combos you can make :)
Riot please...
awesome vid
Do Bard 1 shot boyyyyyyyy
That was beautiful