I have the 1600AB plus. One thing I've noticed is that if you start the roast with P5, you don't in fact get the highest temperature for the machine. You can start the roast at P1 and then after 10 seconds or so, switch to P5. The machine then reaches its highest temperature. Btw, it took me about 40 or so roasts to learn this and it happened out of sheer luck. 😅 Hope the advice helps.
Hi Thanks for the refresh on using the Behmor. I've had my 1600 Plus for a few years, and have encountered all of the frustrations you list. Glad I'm on the right track! Still, after getting used to it's quirks, it consistently delivers very even, and repeatable roasts. I love your cooling contraption! My solution for this is to use an electric leaf blower on low power. Once cooling cycle starts, I open the door of the Behmor and point the blower at the rotating drum obliquely, gently going back and forth. I'm doing this outside btw. Chaf will blow everywhere. After a 2 mins I remove the drum which is just warm to the touch, empty the beans into a bowl, and let the Behmor complete it's cooling cycle without the drum.
That's what I do! I load at least 8oz beans, up to 350g and set the drum aside, leaving the chaff tray in. I preheat by hitting 1/4 and start, and look for b temp to hit 250, then I hit off. I take out the chaff tray, carefully load my drum, put the chaff tray back in, hit 1lb, P1 and start. Then hit P5 (make sure P5 is flashing) and D. Once the A temp hits 310 then hit P3 and coast through 1st crack. If going for city to city + then pull as soon as you don't hear any more pops for 10-15sec. Turn off, remove chaff tray, VERY carefully remove the drum and externally cool the beans. Put the chaff tray back and hit cool so the machine completes the cool cycle (don't skip that step). If shooting for full city then pull beans and cool externally about 2 min after 1st crack (remember, you'll be in P3).
I love the beep. I've turned my head with the old roaster to stir a pot or check the oven contents and had it shut down. Of course I stopped doing that but I sure love the beep on this new one.
With the stupid unattended setting the secret hack (atleast on the 1600 I own) is to roast a half pound but start it as a full pound. For most beans, even if you forget about it completely, you will get a passable result from it erroring out and going into cooling. For pretty much every other bean I have tried I can put it on 1 pound, manual full power then put a 12 minute alarm on my phone and I am back either just as first crack starts or within about 30 seconds first crack will start. From there you proceed as normal either deciding when to put it into manual cool down (usually from a lighter bean start point because it will still roast a bunch in cool down) or you get fancy, take it closer to where you want it and pull the roaster out and cool it down using an alternate method.
Thanks for the walkthrough. I’ve been loving the 1600+ (purchased from SM of course), and hearing you talk through how you control your roast profile in this video was helpful. Thanks for all you do!
Yes, I was going to comment this discrepancy in the video. I already learned this the hard way by accidentally using P5 thinking I was in manual mode when I was actually in auto mode and got a not-thoroughly roasted batch.
In my experience using the built in cooling function leaves a lot to be desired, using some heat proof gloves and dumping the beans into a colander and hitting it with a blow dryer set to cool gets the beans cooled in about 3 minutes consistently.
Use two colanders and pour the beans back and forth outside in a gentle breeze. The beans will cool quickly and the chaff will blow away. Absent breeze just rotate back and forth as you pour. Works great
Love my 1600+. To cool more quickly, I just open the door and point in a table fan while letting the cool cycle run. Cool to the touch in just a few minutes. Yes, chaff goes everywhere. I roast in the garage and use a lawn blower to clean up.
Thanks so much for this run-through. I ran my first ever batches through a 1600+ last night. I find this machine a case in which there’s almost too much information/opinion online and not enough in the manual (or not clearly explained there). But this video helped explain a number of questions I had. One bit of confusion is the manual stating P1 as Highest Heat Profile and P5 as Lowest. Maybe it's the nomenclature I'm unfamiliar with. I'm now looking forward to roasting again next week.
Mine died after about 10 roasts and a month and a a half. Behmor only covers shipping for repairs for the first thirty days, so mine is sitting on a shelf in the closet.
I change the light bulb with a white microwave LED light, works great. Just have to remove the plastic cover on the light bulb if it has one because it may melt.
My main gripe with these; so as there is no way to sample the roast you are reliant on that tiny window but more so you are viewing your roast under a yellow light which is not ideal for judging roast colour. This is very important as you will most likely be roasting in manual mode as demonstrated here.
@@SweetMariasCoffee In the video you instructed to start with P5 before explaining about manual mode. I did this mistake in the couple first roast and then figured out that I roasted on the lowest auto program. If a user want to roast on auto mode, then he need to use P1 for highest setting.
LOVED this video! Such clear instructions and motivated me to buy a Behmor 2000 AB! Can't wait to start roasting on this guy. Thank you! I live about 45 min from Oakland so I'm going to have to come visit Sweet Maria's. I've heard nothing but good things about this business and I love the Sweet Maria's website!
FYI: You should consider doing another video because P5 is not the hottest setting in auto profile mode. It's actually the lowest heat. P1 is the hottest profile in auto mode. I still don't understand why it's that way, but Joe explained the rationale behind it to me.
NEVER LEAVE IT UNATTENDED! I had an older version. I was roasting one day, and the drum stopped turning, but the heating elements kept going! Luckily I was right there watching. Can you say "Burning down the house!" I replaced the circuit board, and all good.
It doesn't seem to have any smoke from your video. Does the smoke suppressor technology help limit emissions? Can I use it indoors without the stove fan?
It does burn off a lot of smoke but there's always some that escapes, especially with darker roasts. Using it indoors is fine but you will probably have a smokey kitchen after a few batches.
Is the motor quiet enough that you can hear both of the cracks? Also, I consistently roast JUST into second crack. I read that it isn't the best for "dark" roasts. Does it handle the early moments of 2nd ok?
Yes, you can hear both 1st and 2nd cracks. If you are roasting decaf, you may have to get your ear a little closer and depend on your other senses. Roasting into 2nd crack is totally doable but roasting that dark on a consistent basis will wear down the machine faster, make cleanup more difficult and get you a tad bit closer to the danger zone.
Any word on the B temp cutoff? Still 331? Does it beep if you get close to that point? That seems to be my biggest issue when roasting in manual mode on 1 lb. batches. I have to watch it like a hawk, especially if it’s not completely clean. Other than that, I have about 200 lbs through the 1600, and it’s really been a fantastic roaster.
Wow....that's a lot of roasted coffee! To he honest, we haven't had any issues with temp cutoffs yet. We suggest contacting Behmor for the specs on that. behmor.com/behmor-tech-support-form/
Sweet Maria's Coffee A bunch of it came from you guys LOL. I probably don’t keep my roaster as clean as I should, so I’m sure that’s a factor. I’ll give them a shout and see what’s up. The beeps alone make it worth upgrading, though. Thanks!
I just got mine a few weeks ago, and my goodness. It's such a nice machine.. leaps better than my air roaster. This video is definitely helpful, simply by seeing the way you guys go about the roast process. One thing you didn't touch on (or maybe I missed it) was preheating. When is preheating the Behmor necessary, if at all?
Some folks will preheat their Behmors. This can be helpful when replicating batches since the first batch, starting from room temp will take longer to get up to roasting temps.
@@thesilkenspider7778 I think things are coming across as less-baked, if that makes any sense. The roast is always consistent too. Both of these things lend to a more predictable cup, but not wildly different as far as taste goes. Mainly quality of life for me, and easily achieving consistency.
@@DaltonFitzGerald I did notice my fresh roast was a bit inconsistent and lately it was a bit off I think. Are you saying your air roasts were more baked than your behmor?
What if you wanted a lighter roast than the “Rosetta Stone” button suggests? Like, wanting to pull 30-45 seconds after first crack. And would it be better to pull the drum out to cool faster due to the residual heat left in the chamber?
To have total control over when to start cooling, it's probably better to not depend on Rosetta Stone. You can use it to extend your roast time but hit "Cool" when you feel it's time. Yes, go ahead and pull your drum out of the roaster if smoke and chaff exiting the roaster aren't a concern. Be careful since everything will be hotter than lava and be sure to immediately put your Behmor into a cooling cycle once the drum is out to avoid damaging the machine.
Question…it’s a 13 minute cooling cycle…everything I’ve read says you need to cool the roasted coffee down to room temp in 4 minutes or less. Can you remove the drum immediately upon finishing roast and dispense into a cooling tray (I have one with a fan and two sieve’s that’s actually a marijuana dryer but works great for coffee cooling).
There are a lot of factors that can affect the time of a roast. We think it would be best to start off with medium heat and ramp it up toward the end of first crack and back off a bit leading into second crack. This should put you at about 13 minutes. FYI, it's not recommended to roast dark with the Behmor but it is possible.
I've been trying to convince myself to purchase this model as I had previously used a Gene Cafe for about 8 years (and have ordered HUNDREDS of pounds of amazing Sweet Maria's green coffee) until it gave up the ghost. Now I know the Gene doesn't have all the bells and whistles (you can't track using artisan etc) but OH MY GOD this looks ridiculously and unnecessarily overly complicated and counter intuitive to use. With the Gene Cafe you have two controls to fiddle with: time and temp. You adjust the controls however you want and you have a great direct view of the beans. I like tech and in fact I track all of my BBQ adventures with some pretty sophisticated software (FireBoard) but......I don't see how this is "better" than what I could do before with less fuss using the Gene Cafe. Can someone help me understand?? :-)
You are right. To be honest, the Behmor isn't the most intuitive roaster to control but once settling into it's auto and manual functions, it's a great machine, especially due to it's batch size, updates and control over drum speed. Every roaster has it's advantages and the Gene definitely is a winner when it came down to simplicity. We always advise that there isn't a "best" roaster but there is a roaster to fit everyone's needs and preferences. PS. Thanks for buying your coffee from us. We really appreciate it.
@@SweetMariasCoffee I still may ultimately re-purchase the Gene Cafe because the simplicity and ease of control were pretty great. BUT what might you recommend I look at if I am interested in the brighter flavors that come from light roasts and am intrigued by the option of tracking roasting profiles using software like artisan? To me that is maybe the biggest downside of the gene café, you cannot easily get a thermocouple into the bean mass and successfully track and log roasting profiles and progress for ease of repeatability.
@@bd.2386 Consider an SR800. You will have good control over light roasts and a lot folks that roast with FreshRoast machines will route a thermocouple through the chaff collector in order to track and log their roasts. www.sweetmarias.com/fresh-roast-sr800.html
@@bd.2386 Awesome machine....and it has the ability to digitally profile your roasts. The fact that it cools your roasted coffee in ambient air is a big plus as well.
Hopefully we'll have time to shoot one. The SR800 is an awesome machine and does have advantages over the Behmor, like a smaller footprint, easier clean-up and excellent visibility of your roast.
Hi again! Question...is it normal for the exhaust temp to be significantly higher than the chamber wall temp? My exhaust temp got to nearly 400 F. TIA!
The exhaust temps are usually a lot hotter during the beginning of cooling or during changes within the roast profile. A lot of heat needs to escape during these times and it all needs to escape via the exhaust. So yes, It's pretty normal but we recommend contacting Behmor if you think something isn't working right.
About how heavy is this ? And how long is the plug ? I’m looking to roast outside hoping it won’t be too heavy to keep bringing back and forth and the wire will reach my only outlet...
Roasting outside: The manual says not to use an extension cord, but I’ve been fine with a 20 amp cord. A lot of cheap but thick looking cords can be as little as 11amps, so check the rating.
I usually roast in my oven but the entire house smokes up , I don’t mind actually it smells good , but someone said it’s dangerous to do and toxic , is this actually true for small amounts every few weeks?
I just bought this machine from you guys not that long ago. You have confused me on this....because on this video you have actually, as far as I understand it, started the Roast in the lowest power setting profile P5. The reason why I believe this is you have to start a roast with a profile (P1 is the hottest to start and P5 is the lowest to start) in automatic mode. Only after the roast is started can you go into the manual mode where it reverses: P5 then becomes the hottest profile 100% power and P1 becomes no power to the elements at all 0%. You can then go back and forth between the automatic mode and manual mode by hitting the 1 lb button if you want to go to automatic and hit a different profile. I am almost certain you have this wrong in your video?
Thanks for buying your Behmor from us. Sorry for any confusion. Hopefully, we can help clear things up. In the video, Tom starts off in automatic mode on P5 with the intention of moving on to manual mode quickly and when moving on to manual mode, changes to P4 and then P5. Starting off on P5 before switching over to manual mode, could have been any P setting, since the roaster takes a while to get up to temp.
@@SweetMariasCoffee Thank you for the reply. That makes much more sense and now I don't feel like I am doing another 180 on my understanding of the auto and manual modes. I started off with a popcorn popper and the sampler from you guys and it was probably 2 weeks later I got the Behmor with the 8lbs....and shortly after ordered another 25ish lbs of different coffee beans. I am loving the coffee I am getting and also really trying to nail the roasts. Your site and info has been huge help! So much to learn and get nerdy with. Thanks for the new obsession!
@@merrittsquared Thank you for being obsessed. You are spot on with your understanding of auto vs manual modes. The Behmor control panel can be a bit confusing when first learning how to use the machine and most folks will stick to what workflow is best for them. Happy roasting!
Hello. I just got a Behmor 2000AB Plus, opened it up, plugged it in and started a dry run like the instructions say to do but my drum doesn't rotate. Do you think I just got a dud or am I missing something? Any suggestions? TIA!
Please contact the experts at Behmor. They will definitely get you up and roasting ASAP. behmor.com/behmor-roaster-tech-support/ In the meantime, check the shaft with the square shaped hole on the right wall. This is where the square post of the drum should insert into. If it's not spinning, then there's probably a motor issue. If it does spin, there's an issue with how the drum is connecting to it.
@@SweetMariasCoffee Thanks for your response and info. The merchant where I bought it from emailed Behmor and I also emailed them but they haven't gotten back to me yet. Yeah I think it might be the motor because nithing is moving 😏 Such a bummer because I was so excited to use it lol. Have you heard of this ever happening? It's brand new btw.
@@newyou9914 So sorry this is happening to you. Behmors are normally very reliable machines. Behmor should be getting back to you soon. They normally get back to customers quickly.
@@SweetMariasCoffee You were right! They did get back with me but their email ended up in my spam. It was a detached wire to the motor. It must have happened during shipping. I just opened the side panel, soldered it and now it works! Already roasted 2 beautiful batches!
We are actually the resellers of the Behmor. If you. are interested in purchasing one, you can buy it from our website. www.sweetmarias.com/roasting/drum-roasters/behmor.html
My 1600 plus is kind of annoying. Lol no beeps no app functionality. Not enough power. Not an accurate thermocouples to actual bean temp only wall temp. The chaff collector is okay but not great since you still get chaff everywhere and you can’t see your beans well. Roast Profiles are pointless...also preheating is difficult because it won’t let you start it again until it is around 151F...the display sucks to read outside...the light is also too dim and tungsten colored...This seems like a better first roaster with a lot of little improvements. The drum speed on this is way faster! Still I feel it could be much more improved for more more money.
Heavy consecutive batches aren't recommended but in real world usage, you can probably do a few 1 pound roasts per session. Here's some folks are saying on Reddit. www.reddit.com/r/roasting/comments/f128fo/do_people_really_wait_an_hour_between_roasts_on/
Heaven forbid in Gen Z America that we be asked to actually work at something like monitoring a bean roast. I mean, their parents did everything for them, so why wouldn’t their coffee maker? I find that engagement and it not doing everything for you is actually seen as a criticism, is all.
I have the 1600AB plus. One thing I've noticed is that if you start the roast with P5, you don't in fact get the highest temperature for the machine. You can start the roast at P1 and then after 10 seconds or so, switch to P5. The machine then reaches its highest temperature. Btw, it took me about 40 or so roasts to learn this and it happened out of sheer luck. 😅 Hope the advice helps.
Hello. Do you mean when it starts in automatic mode or push P1 first and set it in manual and then push P5?
Hi Thanks for the refresh on using the Behmor. I've had my 1600 Plus for a few years, and have encountered all of the frustrations you list. Glad I'm on the right track! Still, after getting used to it's quirks, it consistently delivers very even, and repeatable roasts.
I love your cooling contraption! My solution for this is to use an electric leaf blower on low power. Once cooling cycle starts, I open the door of the Behmor and point the blower at the rotating drum obliquely, gently going back and forth. I'm doing this outside btw. Chaf will blow everywhere. After a 2 mins I remove the drum which is just warm to the touch, empty the beans into a bowl, and let the Behmor complete it's cooling cycle without the drum.
That's what I do!
I load at least 8oz beans, up to 350g and set the drum aside, leaving the chaff tray in. I preheat by hitting 1/4 and start, and look for b temp to hit 250, then I hit off.
I take out the chaff tray, carefully load my drum, put the chaff tray back in, hit 1lb, P1 and start. Then hit P5 (make sure P5 is flashing) and D.
Once the A temp hits 310 then hit P3 and coast through 1st crack.
If going for city to city + then pull as soon as you don't hear any more pops for 10-15sec. Turn off, remove chaff tray, VERY carefully remove the drum and externally cool the beans. Put the chaff tray back and hit cool so the machine completes the cool cycle (don't skip that step).
If shooting for full city then pull beans and cool externally about 2 min after 1st crack (remember, you'll be in P3).
I wrote up your procedure to print out
@@trafton00 I hope it helps!
I love the beep. I've turned my head with the old roaster to stir a pot or check the oven contents and had it shut down. Of course I stopped doing that but I sure love the beep on this new one.
With the stupid unattended setting the secret hack (atleast on the 1600 I own) is to roast a half pound but start it as a full pound. For most beans, even if you forget about it completely, you will get a passable result from it erroring out and going into cooling. For pretty much every other bean I have tried I can put it on 1 pound, manual full power then put a 12 minute alarm on my phone and I am back either just as first crack starts or within about 30 seconds first crack will start. From there you proceed as normal either deciding when to put it into manual cool down (usually from a lighter bean start point because it will still roast a bunch in cool down) or you get fancy, take it closer to where you want it and pull the roaster out and cool it down using an alternate method.
Thanks for the walkthrough. I’ve been loving the 1600+ (purchased from SM of course), and hearing you talk through how you control your roast profile in this video was helpful. Thanks for all you do!
Looks like the display is still the same - impossible to read when roasting outdoors. This is pretty much my only gripe with the Behmor
Drives me nuts. The auto stop feature also drives me nuts. The beep is a nice new piece.
The P1 profile is the highest power. Manual mode is opposite, where P5 is the highest.
Yes, I was going to comment this discrepancy in the video. I already learned this the hard way by accidentally using P5 thinking I was in manual mode when I was actually in auto mode and got a not-thoroughly roasted batch.
In my experience using the built in cooling function leaves a lot to be desired, using some heat proof gloves and dumping the beans into a colander and hitting it with a blow dryer set to cool gets the beans cooled in about 3 minutes consistently.
Use two colanders and pour the beans back and forth outside in a gentle breeze. The beans will cool quickly and the chaff will blow away. Absent breeze just rotate back and forth as you pour. Works great
Love my 1600+. To cool more quickly, I just open the door and point in a table fan while letting the cool cycle run. Cool to the touch in just a few minutes. Yes, chaff goes everywhere. I roast in the garage and use a lawn blower to clean up.
I order and got mine!!!! Love it and fairly easy to use. My only complaint........ It doesn't cool fast enough.
I actually put alluminium insulation tape on the inside of the window. Helps to keep temperature.
Thanks so much for this run-through. I ran my first ever batches through a 1600+ last night. I find this machine a case in which there’s almost too much information/opinion online and not enough in the manual (or not clearly explained there). But this video helped explain a number of questions I had. One bit of confusion is the manual stating P1 as Highest Heat Profile and P5 as Lowest. Maybe it's the nomenclature I'm unfamiliar with. I'm now looking forward to roasting again next week.
Great demo! Just ordered this for myself for Xmas!
Got mine from you guys a couple weeks ago. Loving it.
Mine died after about 10 roasts and a month and a a half. Behmor only covers shipping for repairs for the first thirty days, so mine is sitting on a shelf in the closet.
Excellent video...thank you...I just purchased a 2000 AB+ (from S.M of course). My only "complaint" is that beans get stuck in the drum "vanes".
We hear you. Maybe one day, that issue will be resolved. It used to be worse back in the day when the gaps between the drum wires were larger.
I change the light bulb with a white microwave LED light, works great. Just have to remove the plastic cover on the light bulb if it has one because it may melt.
My main gripe with these; so as there is no way to sample the roast you are reliant on that tiny window but more so you are viewing your roast under a yellow light which is not ideal for judging roast colour. This is very important as you will most likely be roasting in manual mode as demonstrated here.
Pushing P5 before Start will trigger the lowest profile. If you want 100% power you need to push Start and then P5, no?
Yes, in manual mode, p5 will put the roaster at 100% power
@@SweetMariasCoffee
In the video you instructed to start with P5 before explaining about manual mode. I did this mistake in the couple first roast and then figured out that I roasted on the lowest auto program. If a user want to roast on auto mode, then he need to use P1 for highest setting.
True. The video gives incorrect information.
Sounds interesting my 2011 1600 just quit working a couple days ago
I’d love to see you demonstrate the Gene Cafe roaster.
LOVED this video! Such clear instructions and motivated me to buy a Behmor 2000 AB! Can't wait to start roasting on this guy. Thank you! I live about 45 min from Oakland so I'm going to have to come visit Sweet Maria's. I've heard nothing but good things about this business and I love the Sweet Maria's website!
FYI: You should consider doing another video because P5 is not the hottest setting in auto profile mode. It's actually the lowest heat. P1 is the hottest profile in auto mode. I still don't understand why it's that way, but Joe explained the rationale behind it to me.
Correct. Responded the same up here somewhere. Video was misleading on this part.
It's on the confusing side - seems even Tom forgot. When I first watched the video I did a double take... start on F5 auto?!
It’s a shame the old Hearthware air bed roaster is no longer made. I burned through 3 of them before I got my first Behmor.
I was told that I should be preheating the machine for about 1 minute before charging it with coffee,otherwise it will burn the coffee.
Preheating is a good especially if are looking for consecutive roasts to match your first one but it's not necessary to avoid burning.
NEVER LEAVE IT UNATTENDED! I had an older version. I was roasting one day, and the drum stopped turning, but the heating elements kept going! Luckily I was right there watching. Can you say "Burning down the house!" I replaced the circuit board, and all good.
Also is there something better for outdoors ? I hear people saying you can’t see the display when outside ???
It doesn't seem to have any smoke from your video. Does the smoke suppressor technology help limit emissions? Can I use it indoors without the stove fan?
It does burn off a lot of smoke but there's always some that escapes, especially with darker roasts. Using it indoors is fine but you will probably have a smokey kitchen after a few batches.
@@SweetMariasCoffee Thanks for the response.
I have a somewhat silly question - can I switch the machine between F and Celsius setting ?
Great question. Unfortunately, it's not possible to switch between F and C.
Is the motor quiet enough that you can hear both of the cracks?
Also, I consistently roast JUST into second crack. I read that it isn't the best for "dark" roasts. Does it handle the early moments of 2nd ok?
Yes, you can hear both 1st and 2nd cracks. If you are roasting decaf, you may have to get your ear a little closer and depend on your other senses. Roasting into 2nd crack is totally doable but roasting that dark on a consistent basis will wear down the machine faster, make cleanup more difficult and get you a tad bit closer to the danger zone.
Thanks!! (PS. ordered!!)
@@TimTenClay Yes! Congrats. Please feel free to shoot us any questions as you get started.
I need a Behmor for roasting cacao beans.
Any word on the B temp cutoff? Still 331? Does it beep if you get close to that point? That seems to be my biggest issue when roasting in manual mode on 1 lb. batches. I have to watch it like a hawk, especially if it’s not completely clean. Other than that, I have about 200 lbs through the 1600, and it’s really been a fantastic roaster.
Wow....that's a lot of roasted coffee! To he honest, we haven't had any issues with temp cutoffs yet. We suggest contacting Behmor for the specs on that. behmor.com/behmor-tech-support-form/
Sweet Maria's Coffee A bunch of it came from you guys LOL. I probably don’t keep my roaster as clean as I should, so I’m sure that’s a factor. I’ll give them a shout and see what’s up. The beeps alone make it worth upgrading, though. Thanks!
I just got mine a few weeks ago, and my goodness. It's such a nice machine.. leaps better than my air roaster. This video is definitely helpful, simply by seeing the way you guys go about the roast process. One thing you didn't touch on (or maybe I missed it) was preheating. When is preheating the Behmor necessary, if at all?
Some folks will preheat their Behmors. This can be helpful when replicating batches since the first batch, starting from room temp will take longer to get up to roasting temps.
Do you notice a difference in taste between your air roaster and the behmor? Do you have a preference?
@@thesilkenspider7778 I think things are coming across as less-baked, if that makes any sense. The roast is always consistent too. Both of these things lend to a more predictable cup, but not wildly different as far as taste goes. Mainly quality of life for me, and easily achieving consistency.
@@DaltonFitzGerald I did notice my fresh roast was a bit inconsistent and lately it was a bit off I think.
Are you saying your air roasts were more baked than your behmor?
What if you wanted a lighter roast than the “Rosetta Stone” button suggests?
Like, wanting to pull 30-45 seconds after first crack.
And would it be better to pull the drum out to cool faster due to the residual heat left in the chamber?
To have total control over when to start cooling, it's probably better to not depend on Rosetta Stone. You can use it to extend your roast time but hit "Cool" when you feel it's time. Yes, go ahead and pull your drum out of the roaster if smoke and chaff exiting the roaster aren't a concern. Be careful since everything will be hotter than lava and be sure to immediately put your Behmor into a cooling cycle once the drum is out to avoid damaging the machine.
Question…it’s a 13 minute cooling cycle…everything I’ve read says you need to cool the roasted coffee down to room temp in 4 minutes or less. Can you remove the drum immediately upon finishing roast and dispense into a cooling tray (I have one with a fan and two sieve’s that’s actually a marijuana dryer but works great for coffee cooling).
Yes you can. Please be careful when removing the drum. We recommend using oven mitts.
No preheating?
A lot of people do preheat their Behmors but it's not as important as being consistent with if you are preheating or not preheating.
Great video fun and informative thank you
Can you now roast a whole pound in a Behmor, or is power still limited?
Yes, the Behmor does a great job of roasting full pounds
I wonder if i like my bean in French Roast how many minutes would it take?
There are a lot of factors that can affect the time of a roast. We think it would be best to start off with medium heat and ramp it up toward the end of first crack and back off a bit leading into second crack. This should put you at about 13 minutes. FYI, it's not recommended to roast dark with the Behmor but it is possible.
Do you use the same setup when roasting espresso? I'm getting it soon and am so excited!
This is a good framework to follow for roasting espresso but you can go darker if you want a more traditional espresso roast.
I've been trying to convince myself to purchase this model as I had previously used a Gene Cafe for about 8 years (and have ordered HUNDREDS of pounds of amazing Sweet Maria's green coffee) until it gave up the ghost. Now I know the Gene doesn't have all the bells and whistles (you can't track using artisan etc) but OH MY GOD this looks ridiculously and unnecessarily overly complicated and counter intuitive to use. With the Gene Cafe you have two controls to fiddle with: time and temp. You adjust the controls however you want and you have a great direct view of the beans. I like tech and in fact I track all of my BBQ adventures with some pretty sophisticated software (FireBoard) but......I don't see how this is "better" than what I could do before with less fuss using the Gene Cafe. Can someone help me understand?? :-)
You are right. To be honest, the Behmor isn't the most intuitive roaster to control but once settling into it's auto and manual functions, it's a great machine, especially due to it's batch size, updates and control over drum speed. Every roaster has it's advantages and the Gene definitely is a winner when it came down to simplicity. We always advise that there isn't a "best" roaster but there is a roaster to fit everyone's needs and preferences. PS. Thanks for buying your coffee from us. We really appreciate it.
@@SweetMariasCoffee I still may ultimately re-purchase the Gene Cafe because the simplicity and ease of control were pretty great. BUT what might you recommend I look at if I am interested in the brighter flavors that come from light roasts and am intrigued by the option of tracking roasting profiles using software like artisan? To me that is maybe the biggest downside of the gene café, you cannot easily get a thermocouple into the bean mass and successfully track and log roasting profiles and progress for ease of repeatability.
@@bd.2386 Consider an SR800. You will have good control over light roasts and a lot folks that roast with FreshRoast machines will route a thermocouple through the chaff collector in order to track and log their roasts. www.sweetmarias.com/fresh-roast-sr800.html
@@SweetMariasCoffee thank you I appreciate that but that is actually what I used before I moved up to the gene café!! What do you think of the Hottop?
@@bd.2386 Awesome machine....and it has the ability to digitally profile your roasts. The fact that it cools your roasted coffee in ambient air is a big plus as well.
can you make a video on Fresh Roast SR-800? Seriously thinking of that because I cant talk my wife into letting me get the Behmor.
Hopefully we'll have time to shoot one. The SR800 is an awesome machine and does have advantages over the Behmor, like a smaller footprint, easier clean-up and excellent visibility of your roast.
She’s getting you it for Christmas maybe?
Hi again! Question...is it normal for the exhaust temp to be significantly higher than the chamber wall temp? My exhaust temp got to nearly 400 F. TIA!
The exhaust temps are usually a lot hotter during the beginning of cooling or during changes within the roast profile. A lot of heat needs to escape during these times and it all needs to escape via the exhaust. So yes, It's pretty normal but we recommend contacting Behmor if you think something isn't working right.
@@SweetMariasCoffee Thank you so much! You guys are awesome!
About how heavy is this ? And how long is the plug ? I’m looking to roast outside hoping it won’t be too heavy to keep bringing back and forth and the wire will reach my only outlet...
The cord is roughly 42" and it weighs 24lbs.
Roasting outside: The manual says not to use an extension cord, but I’ve been fine with a 20 amp cord. A lot of cheap but thick looking cords can be as little as 11amps, so check the rating.
I usually roast in my oven but the entire house smokes up , I don’t mind actually it smells good , but someone said it’s dangerous to do and toxic , is this actually true for small amounts every few weeks?
Small amounts should be fine but always roast with proper ventilation as any type of smoke and be harmful in concentrated amounts.
@@SweetMariasCoffeevery true thank you for taking the time to respond !
I just bought this machine from you guys not that long ago. You have confused me on this....because on this video you have actually, as far as I understand it, started the Roast in the lowest power setting profile P5. The reason why I believe this is you have to start a roast with a profile (P1 is the hottest to start and P5 is the lowest to start) in automatic mode. Only after the roast is started can you go into the manual mode where it reverses: P5 then becomes the hottest profile 100% power and P1 becomes no power to the elements at all 0%. You can then go back and forth between the automatic mode and manual mode by hitting the 1 lb button if you want to go to automatic and hit a different profile. I am almost certain you have this wrong in your video?
Thanks for buying your Behmor from us. Sorry for any confusion. Hopefully, we can help clear things up. In the video, Tom starts off in automatic mode on P5 with the intention of moving on to manual mode quickly and when moving on to manual mode, changes to P4 and then P5. Starting off on P5 before switching over to manual mode, could have been any P setting, since the roaster takes a while to get up to temp.
@@SweetMariasCoffee Thank you for the reply. That makes much more sense and now I don't feel like I am doing another 180 on my understanding of the auto and manual modes. I started off with a popcorn popper and the sampler from you guys and it was probably 2 weeks later I got the Behmor with the 8lbs....and shortly after ordered another 25ish lbs of different coffee beans. I am loving the coffee I am getting and also really trying to nail the roasts. Your site and info has been huge help! So much to learn and get nerdy with. Thanks for the new obsession!
@@merrittsquared Thank you for being obsessed. You are spot on with your understanding of auto vs manual modes. The Behmor control panel can be a bit confusing when first learning how to use the machine and most folks will stick to what workflow is best for them. Happy roasting!
Hello. I just got a Behmor 2000AB Plus, opened it up, plugged it in and started a dry run like the instructions say to do but my drum doesn't rotate. Do you think I just got a dud or am I missing something? Any suggestions? TIA!
Please contact the experts at Behmor. They will definitely get you up and roasting ASAP. behmor.com/behmor-roaster-tech-support/ In the meantime, check the shaft with the square shaped hole on the right wall. This is where the square post of the drum should insert into. If it's not spinning, then there's probably a motor issue. If it does spin, there's an issue with how the drum is connecting to it.
@@SweetMariasCoffee Thanks for your response and info. The merchant where I bought it from emailed Behmor and I also emailed them but they haven't gotten back to me yet. Yeah I think it might be the motor because nithing is moving 😏 Such a bummer because I was so excited to use it lol. Have you heard of this ever happening? It's brand new btw.
@@newyou9914 So sorry this is happening to you. Behmors are normally very reliable machines. Behmor should be getting back to you soon. They normally get back to customers quickly.
@@SweetMariasCoffee You were right! They did get back with me but their email ended up in my spam. It was a detached wire to the motor. It must have happened during shipping. I just opened the side panel, soldered it and now it works! Already roasted 2 beautiful batches!
@@newyou9914 YES! Happy roasting!
Can you do two patches back to back (without completing the cooling cycle)?
It's not recommended and the Behmor manual states to wait an hour between roasts.
@@SweetMariasCoffee wow! That’s a bummer
Where did you buy it?
We are actually the resellers of the Behmor. If you. are interested in purchasing one, you can buy it from our website. www.sweetmarias.com/roasting/drum-roasters/behmor.html
My 1600 plus is kind of annoying. Lol no beeps no app functionality. Not enough power. Not an accurate thermocouples to actual bean temp only wall temp. The chaff collector is okay but not great since you still get chaff everywhere and you can’t see your beans well. Roast Profiles are pointless...also preheating is difficult because it won’t let you start it again until it is around 151F...the display sucks to read outside...the light is also too dim and tungsten colored...This seems like a better first roaster with a lot of little improvements. The drum speed on this is way faster! Still I feel it could be much more improved for more more money.
the beep at the end is too loud I can't hear the cracking
How much the maximum power watt consumption ?
The label on the Behmor says that it uses 1630 watts
Thankyou ✌️
Whoa! 😵
How much coffee can you roast a day?
Heavy consecutive batches aren't recommended but in real world usage, you can probably do a few 1 pound roasts per session. Here's some folks are saying on Reddit. www.reddit.com/r/roasting/comments/f128fo/do_people_really_wait_an_hour_between_roasts_on/
I just ordered one of these from you. It would be nice to get an email saying you got my order ordered it on the 30th
Sorry about that. Please email us at info@sweetmarias.com and we'll be sure to get you your tracking info.
Beep-More! 😜
Heaven forbid in Gen Z America that we be asked to actually work at something like monitoring a bean roast. I mean, their parents did everything for them, so why wouldn’t their coffee maker? I find that engagement and it not doing everything for you is actually seen as a criticism, is all.
First!! :D