Hi from across the pond. I am a member of a group called “Pickering Station Group” which is part of The North Yorkshire Moors Railway. This is a preserved Railway(Railroad) and we do small maintenance jobs about the Station. We are starting to replace some bench seating which is situated on the Station Platforms. The seats are decades old and we are replacing the wooden seating with treated lumber and painting them in the “Railway livery” we were a bit apprehensive about the painting part but after watching this video I feel confident we can finish the job without problems occurring in the future. Thank you for taking the time to produce and share this video. Regards Charlie.
@Chas Tallis Thank you, Charlie! I'm so glad you wrote in! I lived in Glasgow when I was much younger, and I travelled extensively through the UK. I think about it every day. This preservation project sounds wonderful! If I ever make it back over, as I very much hope I will, I promise I'll swing into Pickering to see the benches and everything else :) If you have any questions you think I might be able to help with, don't hesitate to reach out to me at www.thehonestcarpenter.com. Cheers!
This is my concern too. I worried about replacing deck stairs, but trying to paint it once assembled seens difficult, especially for the under and inner sides.
I am using Kilz primer on my exterior Pressure treated posts which are 3 months dry in Virginia. Then I will paint them with -2 coats of good quality High gloss white. The reason for this is because I have seen online that doing it this way the finish will last much longer than a white solid stain, and the high gloss white finish looks better. Has anyone done this process, I would like opinions on this. This is a newly constructed deck. I will stain deck floor with Cabots semi solid gray. Thank you for any thoughts!
@Anonymous Guy thats what they tell you around here .granted it rains every day in summer so if you're out west you can paint it sooner. Ive had contractors rush us and we put solid body stain as primer , also used regular wood primer but watered it down like crazy. It had green spots all the knots bled . But thats what they wanted. As ive gotten older i just usually give advise if im asked but will do the dumb shit ppl want that way if anything goes south its not on me. Makes my job alot easier. Granted i almost never work outside anymore i have a nice gig doing hospital and dr. Offices repaints and sheetrock also will do drop ceilings but those are nasty work. So short story long i kinda agree with you.
If you are on a job where you have to purchase significant amounts of treated wood and paint it, what is your approach to that? Do you store it and wait, or install it and wait, or something else? I’d love to hear your thoughts on it. I have to finish a porch I rebuilt and I don’t have tons of experience painting treated lumber.
You can just wait several weeks for the treatment fluid to dry out Joshua. Or you can purchase kiln dried treated lumber, but it’s a lot more expensive
Nice but I always heard force drying paint doesn't allow it to penetrate and bond to wood substrate as well as slow drying and will tend to peal more often.
You would wait until the paint stops penetrating - usually it would only take a short while for the paint to thicken to the point that it stops being mobile.
Used that paint on my 8ft solid wood door it came out great door was too heavy to remove but paint dried quickly and no issues did need to lightly sand after the coats
Thanks for the great video very helpful, we made a rolling cart out of pressure treated lumber for my mother in law, the woods been in the garage for a little over a month so it should be ok to paint?
We just added new pressure treated wood for a deck , we added 6x6 posts and 1x6 fdeck boards . do I need to put a primer on the pressure treated wood before painting and what about the deck boards for staining ?
In the video he mentions to keep moving the heat gun. This is extremely important. If the paint gets too hot, it’ll start bubbling or show signs of burning. That happens if you leave the heat gun in area for too long and/or you’re too close. If a particular area is more wet then others, put more distance between the gun and the paint and use the low setting.
@jbotnik Very good points here! I didn't show the blistering process, but I probably should have. I like to do long, slow passes over the various painted surfaces from a distance of about 6" away . Thanks for watching!
I have a question I have a brand of pressure treated deck the person who did it told me to wait six months which now I find out was incorrect because six weeks later I saw a little mold. I want to paint it with clear just to see like what do you recommend? Thank you.
What's I put some with a gripper primer on I had essentially it's it's bubbling on the on the cruiser wood would it make sense to just before some sort of solvent over the whole thing and once it dries then maybe you can paint it a little better or maybe you should use a oil-based paint rather than a latex or acrylic? Maybe I should just use a stain for now
Hi Ethan, I have photographs available and it has been cleared by the NYMR. If you use them would your kindly credit them to the NYMR. Where do I send them to. Regards Charlie
@Chas Tallis Wonderful! I can't wait to see them, and I'll gladly credit all shots to NYMR on the photos themselves, and in the captions. If you want to just jump over to my website, go the the contact page and just send me a quick hello. I'll respond back and we'll be able to transfer photos and anything else. Thank you! www.thehonestcarpenter.com
@Chas Tallis I saw the photos on The Honest Carpenter blog. They are gorgeous! If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'm definitely riding your train.
Thank you for the video. I painted some wood shortly after purchasing it and have already used it to screw corrugated metal fencing onto it (i.e. it is a horizontal piece of timber attached to the bottom section of this metal fence sheets). Unfortunately I did not see this video earlier. Is there something you would recommend to ensure it doesn't rot inside? I guess I will just need to wait and see (and make sure I let it dry out thoroughly in future).
@@OblateSpheroid Excellent question. Tony painted some fresh pressure treated wood and I'm waiting to see if it worked, because, tomorrow, I must paint some pressure treated wood. 4.28.2022
☞Is one application better than another? Paint or Stain? If paint, do I use two coats of primer or one? Then what kind of top coat paint? I heard paint will blister and peel 3 years later. And staining is better. Is that true? ☞I know to let it dry out at least two weeks but some say 2 to 6 months??? ☞I'm going to say that if you use Paint & primer as long as you let it dry out real good you should be fine. ☞If I do go the stain route can you tell me exactly how to do that? Thank you
Your videos are very information and is very good...But you need a tripoded for your camera...like that you can do your work very freely....GOOD INFORMATION; I LERNING A LOT...THANKS.
I want to burn the deck to make the grain stand out..but its pressure treated. Only plan on lightly burning it..is that dangerous? Will it leach chemicals into bare feet after?
Paint and primer is not enough to hold for any duration of time. All wood needs primer only first, that's why u needed 3 coats, and it will be peeling in months
I tried to stain my pressure treated deck. It looked great....next summer....bare. It rejected the stain. I restained it again....black stain....same thing. Didn't do anything last summer. Hate looking at it.
If I get a 10 foot piece of pressure treated decking lumber from Home Depot will it be paintable after 2 weeks in my basement with a dehumidifier running? Is kiln dried pressure treated lumber available that we can paint the same day we purchase it ? I always thought pressure treated lumber needed seasoning outdoors for a few weeks before painting. I didn't realize it could be kept indoors for the seasoning process to bleed out the stuff. Thanks
Google1 User Id say there’s a pretty good chance. Even better would be if you could bring it into the main air conditioned part of the house and tuck it away somewhere. House interiors are typically very dry places
@@peterarvanitis8149 they're good so far. I painted all the wood black and lightly stained the fence boards. It looks very sharp! I just hope it holds up for a couple decades
the fluid that the use to treat the lumber is called TOXIC pesticides you probably should know what materials you are working with and GLOVES would be a great idea so when you get cancer you can remember this day
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Hi from across the pond. I am a member of a group called “Pickering Station Group” which is part of The North Yorkshire Moors Railway. This is a preserved Railway(Railroad) and we do small maintenance jobs about the Station. We are starting to replace some bench seating which is situated on the Station Platforms. The seats are decades old and we are replacing the wooden seating with treated lumber and painting them in the “Railway livery” we were a bit apprehensive about the painting part but after watching this video I feel confident we can finish the job without problems occurring in the future. Thank you
for taking the time to produce and share this video.
Regards Charlie.
@Chas Tallis Thank you, Charlie! I'm so glad you wrote in! I lived in Glasgow when I was much younger, and I travelled extensively through the UK. I think about it every day. This preservation project sounds wonderful! If I ever make it back over, as I very much hope I will, I promise I'll swing into Pickering to see the benches and everything else :) If you have any questions you think I might be able to help with, don't hesitate to reach out to me at www.thehonestcarpenter.com. Cheers!
Also, if you end up with before and after pictures I’d love to see! I’d be happy to put them on my home page 🙂
This is my concern too. I worried about replacing deck stairs, but trying to paint it once assembled seens difficult, especially for the under and inner sides.
Thank you for your video, it help me a lot. I had the question in my head for days if I can paint treated lumber.
So.... You say to wait a certain period. But how do you know how long the lumber has been sitting around??
My question as well. How do you know how long it's been sitting at the depot?
Also you can speed up drying spacing the wood and putting a fan on it. Kilns have them.
PRO TIP-
When building outside w PT lumber (why else would you be using pt lumber?)
paint all your cut ends to protect them from moisture.
!
Thanks for these tips sir
I am using Kilz primer on my exterior Pressure treated posts which are 3 months dry in Virginia. Then I will paint them with -2 coats of good quality High gloss white. The reason for this is because I have seen online that doing it this way the finish will last much longer than a white solid stain, and the high gloss white finish looks better. Has anyone done this process, I would like opinions on this. This is a newly constructed deck. I will stain deck floor with Cabots semi solid gray. Thank you for any thoughts!
I’m in VA and currently at this stage. How is your method holding up?
6 months to paint treated is what I've always heard. Nice video
@Anonymous Guy thats what they tell you around here .granted it rains every day in summer so if you're out west you can paint it sooner. Ive had contractors rush us and we put solid body stain as primer , also used regular wood primer but watered it down like crazy. It had green spots all the knots bled . But thats what they wanted. As ive gotten older i just usually give advise if im asked but will do the dumb shit ppl want that way if anything goes south its not on me. Makes my job alot easier. Granted i almost never work outside anymore i have a nice gig doing hospital and dr. Offices repaints and sheetrock also will do drop ceilings but those are nasty work. So short story long i kinda agree with you.
If you are on a job where you have to purchase significant amounts of treated wood and paint it, what is your approach to that? Do you store it and wait, or install it and wait, or something else? I’d love to hear your thoughts on it. I have to finish a porch I rebuilt and I don’t have tons of experience painting treated lumber.
You can just wait several weeks for the treatment fluid to dry out Joshua. Or you can purchase kiln dried treated lumber, but it’s a lot more expensive
Nice but I always heard force drying paint doesn't allow it to penetrate and bond to wood substrate as well as slow drying and will tend to peal more often.
You would wait until the paint stops penetrating - usually it would only take a short while for the paint to thicken to the point that it stops being mobile.
Used that paint on my 8ft solid wood door it came out great door was too heavy to remove but paint dried quickly and no issues did need to lightly sand after the coats
Going to try 30 days and paint my pt handrail that was replaced. I don’t have patience to wait 6months to a year
Thanks for the great video very helpful, we made a rolling cart out of pressure treated lumber for my mother in law, the woods been in the garage for a little over a month so it should be ok to paint?
heavy feather You’re welcome, thanks for watching! I’d say, after a month in a covered space, you’re definitely in the clear. Feel free to paint 🙂
I thought the pressure treated lumber had to be seasoned outdoors for a few weeks. I didn't realize it can be seasoned indoors instead.?
Any recommendations for a good paintable wood sealer to go under acrylic latex paint?
Thanks for the information. That helps out a lot.
You’re welcome, John!
We just added new pressure treated wood for a deck , we added 6x6 posts and 1x6 fdeck boards . do I need to put a primer on the pressure treated wood before painting and what about the deck boards for staining ?
Do you also have to wait before piling it or varnishing it?
In the video he mentions to keep moving the heat gun. This is extremely important. If the paint gets too hot, it’ll start bubbling or show signs of burning. That happens if you leave the heat gun in area for too long and/or you’re too close. If a particular area is more wet then others, put more distance between the gun and the paint and use the low setting.
@jbotnik Very good points here! I didn't show the blistering process, but I probably should have. I like to do long, slow passes over the various painted surfaces from a distance of about 6" away . Thanks for watching!
Hi Ethan, I ‘ll see what I can do. I will probably have to clear it first with the Society.
Regards, Charlie.
I have a question I have a brand of pressure treated deck the person who did it told me to wait six months which now I find out was incorrect because six weeks later I saw a little mold. I want to paint it with clear just to see like what do you recommend? Thank you.
I applied wood preservative (solignum) on my DIY plywood cabinet. How long should i wait before i paint the cabinet?
Is it necessary to paint treated plywood for shed floor? My friend just got a shed put up and she wanted me to paint the floor . Thanks 👍
What's I put some with a gripper primer on I had essentially it's it's bubbling on the on the cruiser wood would it make sense to just before some sort of solvent over the whole thing and once it dries then maybe you can paint it a little better or maybe you should use a oil-based paint rather than a latex or acrylic? Maybe I should just use a stain for now
Thanks, Honest. All useful advice.
Hi Ethan, I have photographs available and it has been cleared by the NYMR. If you use them would your kindly credit them to the NYMR. Where do I send them to.
Regards Charlie
@Chas Tallis Wonderful! I can't wait to see them, and I'll gladly credit all shots to NYMR on the photos themselves, and in the captions. If you want to just jump over to my website, go the the contact page and just send me a quick hello. I'll respond back and we'll be able to transfer photos and anything else. Thank you!
www.thehonestcarpenter.com
@Chas Tallis I saw the photos on The Honest Carpenter blog. They are gorgeous! If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'm definitely riding your train.
Thank you for the video. I painted some wood shortly after purchasing it and have already used it to screw corrugated metal fencing onto it (i.e. it is a horizontal piece of timber attached to the bottom section of this metal fence sheets). Unfortunately I did not see this video earlier. Is there something you would recommend to ensure it doesn't rot inside? I guess I will just need to wait and see (and make sure I let it dry out thoroughly in future).
I don’t have an answer for you but do you know how it turned out over a year later?
@@OblateSpheroid Excellent question.
Tony painted some fresh pressure treated wood and I'm waiting to see if it worked, because, tomorrow, I must paint some pressure treated wood.
4.28.2022
☞Is one application better than another? Paint or Stain?
If paint, do I use two coats of primer or one? Then what kind of top coat paint? I heard paint will blister and peel 3 years later. And staining is better. Is that true?
☞I know to let it dry out at least two weeks but some say 2 to 6 months???
☞I'm going to say that if you use Paint & primer as long as you let it dry out real good you should be fine.
☞If I do go the stain route can you tell me exactly how to do that?
Thank you
was it oil-based or water based paint
It was exterior paint so I'm guessing oil.
Your videos are very information and is very good...But you need a tripoded for your camera...like that you can do your work very freely....GOOD INFORMATION; I LERNING A LOT...THANKS.
Thanks!
I want to burn the deck to make the grain stand out..but its pressure treated. Only plan on lightly burning it..is that dangerous? Will it leach chemicals into bare feet after?
Paint and primer is not enough to hold for any duration of time. All wood needs primer only first, that's why u needed 3 coats, and it will be peeling in months
People think paint&primer I don't prime it but they are wrong
I agree
But good luck telling a contractor
I tried to stain my pressure treated deck. It looked great....next summer....bare. It rejected the stain. I restained it again....black stain....same thing. Didn't do anything last summer. Hate looking at it.
It probably will not stay either especially if ur Winters are harsh but look into Marine grade paint & stains
Painters would sand after at least the first coat. Lightly.
Moisture meter readings should be less than 20%. Preferable 13%.
If I get a 10 foot piece of pressure treated decking lumber from Home Depot will it be paintable after 2 weeks in my basement with a dehumidifier running? Is kiln dried pressure treated lumber available that we can paint the same day we purchase it ? I always thought pressure treated lumber needed seasoning outdoors for a few weeks before painting. I didn't realize it could be kept indoors for the seasoning process to bleed out the stuff. Thanks
Google1 User Id say there’s a pretty good chance. Even better would be if you could bring it into the main air conditioned part of the house and tuck it away somewhere. House interiors are typically very dry places
Idiots. You don’t put pressure treated inside. Those chemicals that make it ok for being outside are not at all healthy.
@@TheHonestCarpenter I do that in my garage with a dehu. how do you keep it from twisting/warping?
Use a tripod! Have a designated are for demo and a monitor
I wish I didn't watch this video lol. I just put in 4x4 treated fence posts 2 days ago and painted them and the rails black today.
What ended up happening ?
@@peterarvanitis8149 they're good so far. I painted all the wood black and lightly stained the fence boards. It looks very sharp! I just hope it holds up for a couple decades
I waited 1 year
kiln-dried is treated
Kiln dried can be treated or not treat. Kiln dried 2x4 or 2x6 wall studs are not treated, but KDAT (kiln dried after treatment) is treated then dried.
Your volume is very low 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
the fluid that the use to treat the lumber is called TOXIC pesticides you probably should know what materials you are working with and GLOVES would be a great idea so when you get cancer you can remember this day
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