The Best Way To Stain Your Deck PERIOD!!!!
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I really love the way you always explain why you do what you do. Many other pros don’t explain why; they just tell how. Thanks for helping us ordinary DIYers.
Ya, the WHY is the wisdom.
The problem is 80% of the time his advice is really bad. He is not a professional. Advising you to use 220 grit sandpaper on a deck is bad advice. 80 grit is recommended, 150 tops. Want it to look like a DIY did the project, follow his advice. Want to work smarter instead of harder and make it look like a pro did it, follow someone else's advice.
I really appreciate the way you make all of these projects so understandable and accessible.
I like that you kept the deck in a natural wood color. Looks nice. Thanks.
JUST built a deck and was wondering how to stain it. Then you posted this! Thank you!
Jeff, every time I'm about to tackle a project, I swear you're posting a video answering the exact questions I had! amazing!!
Cheers, happy to help!
About to seal the deck I built last year using all of your DIY techniques and then this video popped up. I will have to be taking a trip to Randall's soon. Thank you for everything through the years Jeff!! Always know I can rely on good tricks from someone who knows our climate here in the Capital region
just spoke with Heather today at C2, was so knowledgeable and an absolute pleasure. She actually has used the product herself and can speak from personal experience.
As soon as our new deck wood will receive it, this is the product we will be using.
Thank you, Jeff! 🤗🦋
Just over 20 years ago I used a garden sprayer to apply Thompson’Water Seal to my new deck. Unfortunately after one winter the surface became black as if moisture was trapped beneath the sealer and created mold.
I wasn’t aware of penetrating seal back then so ever since I just power washed my deck every spring. It’s basically solid except where we have built in planters. The deck boards ( 2x6 pressure treated lumber) beneath and adjacent to the planters have rotted through due to continuous dampness from watering the flowers.
Next DIY project replacing all my deck boards.
Thanks for the help Jeff. Love your work!
I look forward to Saturdays to see the progress of this project. I can't wait to see it when all is said and done!
Thanks for pointing us at C2 Guard. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what product to use to stain/protect my deck.. This product looks great!
Using the sprayer will be time saver. Don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone do it like that before. 💪🏾👏🏾
You just saved me so much time with using that sprayer. i never thought about doing that. Thank you
Thank you for sharing your info. Short, to the point and very informative.
Loved the grunt work breathing...Very relaxing . LOL.. Love your videos for years!!!
Thank you jeff!!! I am the wife and I recently put in a new porch, I will be using this exact method!! You rock man!!!
Here's a fun little project that can be a multi-year endeavor similar to Project Farm and Repair Geek's comparisons/reviews: Make a little deck with common lumber, treated and not, and use various products in various applications and just let them sit out in the elements, re-coating some every 1-5 years, and doing nothing with others. Could be a fun one.
Ah, I really wish the previous homeowner had known all this! We moved in in 2019 and they had just stained the deck with opaque stain before putting the house on the market. The next year, the deck was peeling and looked ghastly! All because they didn’t prep it properly,… at least they were consistent. They also painted the kitchen cabinets with latex over oil - NO primer!! Joys of buying a fixer… but we’re in the GTA, so what else can you do if you aren’t a millionaire?
Excellent video, especially on the recoating, but doing the floor seems more difficult. Do you use the paintbrush on your hands and knees? Do you put a long handle on the brush? I'd love to see how that works. (I can't do this due to knee problems)
Wow - FAST and EASY! Thank you for the demo
What video were you watching? He was literally on his hands and knees sanding the entire surface (and vertical surfaces) and then cleaning and scrubbing and sanding the spots you missed and then..... This looks like an extraordinary pain in the ass. That would destroy my knees but would be brutal for anyone with a little palm sander. I would rent a commercial sander in .5 seconds (like he indicated). I don't think people realize the impact until they experience being in their knees for that long. And I have great knee pads too.
We're big fans of the channel and so appreciate all your tips and tricks! This video was particularly timely as we just moved in to our newly built home and need to seal the raw wood on our front porch. However, when I tried to apply the coupon code after adding 4 gallons of C2 Guard for Wood it said the code wasn't valid for the items in the cart. Any idea why? Thanks a bunch!
Hey Jeff, thanks for this video. I am building my deck and I ordered the product you recommended, but C2 paint didn't seem to honor the 20% discount when I reviewed the CC charge. I used the link in the video so I don't understand. I have emailed them but not heard back from them yet. Anyway, thanks for the series of videos, very helpful. Cheers.
I never stain in direct sunlight because the stain dries so fast, and I won’t stain, if the temperature is below 10 degrees Celsius. Keep in mind, once you stain, you will be staining on a regular basis. I really think, if you care about your deck’s appearance, consider synthetic decking. Nice way to apply your stain, Jeff. Wish you well Sir. 🇨🇦💝🙏👍
Thank you so much for doing this video!!!
Amazing job well done!!!!
Hi Jeff great video. What is the difference between c2 and osmos oil based sealer?
Cheers!
Hey Jeff, love the Chanel I watch daily… just a question… what is the difference between c2 and the Osmo UV-Protection-Oil that you used on your farmhouse deck? Also which is better ? Pros ? cons ? Thanks cheers
Thanks for that great advice. I never thought about using a garden sprayer. How long do you suggest waiting to stain new wood?
Great video! Would you recommend a polyurethane as a finish coat or just a water repellent?
You need to warn people that the sprayer method isn't so great if there's no way to block overspray. It gets everywhere. Doing a pergola and had to stop.
Common sense would tell you that. Why go into any project with no thought about the consequences of every action?
Your timing is immaculate, thank you. Sadly, I'm in the UK and I'll have to use what I can find here. (Buying smooth deck boards is difficult enough.)
Jeff, would you consider doing a meet & greet in Ottawa? I can't believe I've been watching your stuff for years and you've been pumping content out from my neck of the woods! Cheers from Cumberland
question: is it wise to thin down the first coat of an oil base deck finish so that it will soak in the deepest, AND then apply a second coat without thinning at all? this is what I do sometimes, and I may be incorrect.
cedar and redwood is expensive. What are your thoughts on using douglas fir for deck boards for a deck? I actually like the look better, but is cedar or redwood stronger, even if I do an oil based sealer on the douglas fir?
Jeff 😳That's an Amazing job ! I watched it all the way Fab..🤛
That looks GREAT! I wind up sanding and staining my deck every two years, and it's aggravating. It looks great when done, but just doesn't last.
I use Cabot stain in Colovian Brown - does that stain have colors that would match?
Thanks again.
I'd this for older wood decks that are weathered
Cheers!
@Home RenoVision DIY In an older video with the cedar privacy fence you were using Osmo as the finish. How do you like/compare the C2 Guard to the Osmo?
I love this guy good always doing great JOB !!!
Thanks for sharing! I Just got my balcony installed with Canadian Red Cedar of high grade quality. Does it still needs to be sealed or could it wait after a few years time ? I love the natural look but maybe as a prevention mechanism it might be a smart thing to do. Does the wood need to cure after a certain amount of time after the installation ?
Thanks again!
Sanding with 220 grit paper and a power sander will actually CREATE mill glaze, not get rid of it! Nothing finer than 80 or 100 grit should be used on a deck. This is standard instructions given on many manufacturer's labels.
Washing the deck with a deck cleaner containing oxalic acid will also get rid of mill glaze.
I love watching your videos!! I have a porch that has a floor made with marine plywood. It's been installed for about 25 years. Can I use this c2 on my old marine plywood?
What about the wood exposed in the Crack between planks? Also, what about the underside? I was considering at least treating the underside before installation?
From a friend and who's a retired paint chemist for one of the biggest names in paint (not PPG, btw): PPG's ProLuxe Stains (not the 'single-coat' stuff, SDR or something), formulated by Sikkens, far out-performed all other stains on the market in an objective comparison a few years ago. That's what he used on his own 30-year-old deck just last year.
Doesn't really matter what you use. It needs to be maintained annually on horizontals.
@@matthoughton1006 If that's the case, the cheaper the better...
@@ItchyKneeSon I mean, not really. It's more about what is designed for easy maintenance, e.g. can be cleaned and recoated over itself without fully stripping the surface. What kind of maintenance do you want ? Penetrating oils just wear off the surface, acrylic coatings are film forming and will blister peel and check which presents a whole other set of issues.
Plenty of oil penetrating stains can't be stacked on top of themselves.
Silkens srd is going to burn off in a year the same as bm arborcoat Armstrong Clark Cabot penofin...what have you
I believe PPG bought sikkens. Sikkens made the best stuff. My resoich has indicated exactly the same thing
@@matthoughton1006wtf does that mean though? "Maintained"? So every single year you have to maintain it. Re-stain it every single year? Please to be explaining. I would honestly greatly appreciate it.
I like the stain color. Thanks for sharing
Cheers!
This was great, thank you I’m going to attempt to do my own deck pray for me😅
Hi Jeff, thanks for another great video! Question for you..... should there be any waiting time for a new PT deck to cure before applying the first application of stain? I am in Florida coming into a cooler time of year. Thanks again for what you do:)
Jeff, I've used a few (over several years) solid stains on an old, weathered deck. They never last. I see this as a polyurethane stain treatment. How is this not a "coating" on top of a deck and that it won't peal within a year? I'm at a point it may be time to rip up the deck to put "new" deck boards down. Will this last more than a year or should I replace my deck?
Love this channel!
I am so relieved to find this video of yours!
We have a new deck going in mid March and I’m overwhelmed trying to find the best stain, approach, etc.
You just answered a lot of those questions for me. I love that you have highlighted a product that can be applied right over itself for years to come.
and if I’m understanding, it does not need to be sanded down for future applications after the initial application?
My only other question is with the new cedar, how long should I wait before I apply anything to it? Does it need to “cure”?
I’ve heard tiannins in Cedar can leach for months and affect whatever is applied to it, is this correct?
idk man... i did this exact process... i must have messed up somewhere but my stain starting rubbing out the next year... I even used a more coarse sand paper to really get some penetration of the stain...
This guy is amazing 😂 I never knew this stuff ❤
it looks really easy to apply...my only concern would be will hold up in south florida like it does up north? we have 100 degree days all summer long here
How long do you usually wait to stain new pressure treated deck boards ?
Will this maintain the wood smell, too? I just got my deck done and haven't stained it yet, but I love the smell of the wood when it rains!
Is double boiled linseed oil a suitable stain for a deck ion the rainy west coast?
To bad they don't have a product for existing decks. The first "install" for my deck my contractor really hosed the treatment, and now I need to get it back to good. PNW is brutal on exposed wood as well. Thanks for the video.
How long should I wait before I put a stain/protectant on newly laid pressure treated deck boards?
I have a 20 year old cracked deck I neglected for the past 4 years - I’ll be replacing screws that lifted. Will this work for an old deck? Do I need to stain over it since my deck is old?
Is there any decking under the furniture? If there is, why did you not stain it first to help prevent the possibility of scratching on other parts of the deck when the furniture is put into place later?
Or having a non stained part of the deck later if you decide to move the furniture around and the deck under the furniture has had a chance to weather without any protection?
Learned how to do most of my house repairs form Jeff! Who said RUclips is only chicks in bikinis? Good stuff sir
Wish I had seen this before I restored my balcony/deck. 14 year old deck in the PNW. The wood is red cedar. It had turned black. Mildewed. Dirty. Stained. Sanded down to bare wood as best I could. Took apart everything but the floor to be able to sand and stain all sides. Did a water based penetrating stain on the rails and balustrades, two coats. Used Cabots oil based stain on the floor, two coats, plus added a coat to the top of the railing. Looks great, hoping it lasts. 🫣
thanks Jeff, is there a video on how you built those bench chairs?
What if your deck already has old chipped paint, do you still use light orbital sanding? Or should you sand with a bigger sander?
Will the stain still work if you don't sand and clean beforehand?
I hate to be a negative here,however, I think this is far better than what most people do, but the first mistake made here is doing it in sunlight, that will fail in the year 100%, a solid oil would obviously hide the beautiful wood, but it’s more durable, there’s also vertical and horizontal stains. Transparent or semi transparent, waterbased can be applied over itself if it’s still damp and for sure it would need 2 coats. A better move would be to resand and reapply chances are you wouldn’t get much more than a year out of it again though. Nice, informative channel, lots of good stuff. Keep up the good work.
Great work and an amazing deck. I could be wrong but you sound Canadian.
Great video. Can you use that stain on a cedar shed?
Friendly tip! Thumbs up👍on this one Jeff. One question, do you recommend applying this in the SUN or SHADE? SPRING or FALL. I am also a Professional Landscaper and apply sealer to interlock with a pump sprayer! I agree it is the best way to apply it. I know Murray very well at Randall's. They sell the Gooseneck brush their, and many other great products! The gooseneck Guy! Cheers! The painting expert and Inventor of the Richard 2 1/2 Gooseneck paint brush. Cheers!
Hi Donald, If you can find a day that is a little overcast without rain then sure. but my advice to homeowners is. just do it when you have the time. even if you do it in the sun like i did it last the winter. sure you may need a fresh coat sooner but since all you do is spray it on who cares. I would hate to only have weekends to do a project and then it rains every weekend. this happens in Ottawa some years for sure. Cheers!
I’m surprised by the washing the day of. I get it, but that was a lot of water. Heck, my plan was power wash and scrub weekend 1 and then stain weekend 2 (after dealing with new dirt)
Jeff!!! What are your thoughts on dry pour concrete pads? Especially in Canada. Cajun Country Living channel showed a great video on it...would you try it here?
Didn’t catch what you said about an old deck that was previously stained. Mine has been worn down and looks like old gray wood. Can I give it a sanding and apply stain as you have here or do I need to do something more thorough?
So, questions... the wood doesn't need to be completely dry before putting the sealer over it?
And, all this wood you used was cedar?
Can you tell me why you chose that wood?
Have you used any other shades besides sugar maple? I'm staining a dock for my brother and he wants it as close to the natural pine shade but we can't do clear due to weathering. Going to order with your code. Love your videos.
Thanks for the vid! I just applied this product to two of my decks. After letting them dry (two coats each) the finish looks faded. Is it okay to do another coat after the product has completely dried?
Do you recommend their fusion product? We are planning to buy through your link w/ the code and wanted to know if the fusion would be a better option (our deck is very, very old and was just sanded and cleaned up).
Please post an update after 6 years to show the results, then perhaps we'll spend the outrageous $101/gallon (plus shipping).
Open up the pores... beautifully said. Just did mine. I actually threw 2 coats of oilbased poly over the top of my semi transparent stain LOL
Have you used the masonry companion product as well? what about using it on a 2 year old pressure treated fence?
I apply automatic transmission fluid to cedar/fir fencing with a pesticide sprayer.Takes minimal time and soaks right in. Waterproofs, protects and keeps bugs away. Not to mention it is the cheapest stain/sealer compared to stains and it really brings out the grain and adds great colour.
Transmission fluid?? 🤔
@@Sandra-Armstrong yes automatic transmission fluid will seal and waterproof wood, plus its colour enhances and brings out the natural
Grains in cedar, fir and spruce since they all share a red/orange hue. Its must cheaper than stain too. Added benefit bugs dont like it either so repeals pests. This is old school method which works well and is cost effective. Every so
Many years you have to
Reapply the fluid but just as stains do to.
God help your well water!
Is it toxic ?
Must be great for the environment to just spray atf all over the place. 😳
Hi Jeff love your videos.
Just curious if that laking pipe video you did l last year was rea.
You know the one where you tried to repair the pipe but forgot about the main valve?l❤
Hi Jeff, how long after washing the deck should I wait to start staining?
would you recommend this product for a fence as well?
I'm having a hard time finding C2 Guard sample cans in my area of the US. I've reached out to C2 directly and a couple other places. Any ideas on how I can order some? I'm not sure on what wood I want to use (redwood or Cedar) but also not sure on a color or clear. I want to do some tests. Thank you
Hi Jeff! Great video! Quick question for you, I see you’re using Sugar Maple as a color of the C2. I was under the impression color stains fade or chip away quicker. And if I go to reapply I’ll have a ton of sanding to do. How does this C2 product differ in this case? Or would you recommend a clear version? Thanks again! Love your videos! Cheers!
this product is a sealer/ stain with UV protection. unlike solid or semitransparent stains 100% of this is in the wood and not sitting on it like a skin so it never blisters or peels or cracks. the worst thing that can happen is it fades. simply apply a new layer on with a sprayer the next year. no additional work. Cheers! clear finishes have no UV and will deteriorate in 1 year.
Hi Jeff, if staining a somewhat weathered deck, would you recommend power washing it first followed by sanding? Thanks for all your videos btw, one of the best renovation channels on RUclips!!
Don't use a pressure washer - will lift and damage wood fibers. Just use belt or orbital and go down to 120 grit
@@barkleyhunt3227 , it makes no sense to try to hand-sand an existing and weathered deck with cupped and warped boards, especially if it's larger than 300 or 400 sq feet. In most cases, a light powerwashing is the only practical way to remove dirt and algae and prepare for stain. I replanked and stained my large deck (1k sq ft) with pressure-treated wood 6 years ago, and it was overdue for cleaning and restaining; I tried cleaning it with a rented industrial floor cleaner with a big, coarse rotating brush but that wasn't sufficient (and hard to control) and so I did end up using a small pressure washer on it, which was kinda slow but worked well. After drying for 3 days it took stain extremely well, soaking up a semi transparent stain like a sponge, so that I had to go back and forth over it several times. I'm 65 and If I had tried to individually sand every damn deck plank I wouldn't be able to walk for weeks afterwards! If the lumber quality is any good it should be able to withstand a light pressure washing. Now this might not be true if you're using Redwood and certainly wouldn't be true for Cedar ( I scrubbed my Cedar siding with a brush on a pole before re-staining the house), but for regular pressure treated planking, in shouldn't be an issue, as that shit's pretty tough.
PS, For the benefit of the guy who originally asked a question about power washing, I would not use any commercially sold deck cleaners, most of which are nothing but overpriced bleach. Chlorine bleach is terribly harsh to wood fibers and one of the by-products of bleach plus cellulose is dioxin which is highly carcinogenic. I use a 1/4 cup of Oxyclean crystals dissolved in a gallon of water with a couple dabs of dish soap. Spray that on the deck 1st before you power wash it. It's gentle, nontoxic and virtually harmless and it won't kill your plants or your lawn.
@goodun2974 my thoughts exactly on getting in your hands and knees and sanding a deck that size. Only an idiot would do that with a palm sander. That's nuts. Rent a commercial sander at the least.
Fascinating about bleach and dioxin. Who knew!?! A lot of peeps and manufacturers recommend the use of oxalic acid first. Apparently opens up the pores? Any opinion on that?
@@barkleyhunt3227a belt sander🤣 that’s absolutely some of the worst advice you could give somebody. You don’t want anything that goes in one full spin motion for this stuff. Hello lot of work and uneven boards. Use an oscillating orbital or oscillating only.
I wish I knew about this stuff last spring. We previously stained our cedar deck with Cabot oil-based stain. It looked good but didn't survive the winter. Any flat surface that was exposed to snow was bare in the spring. So we tried the same stuff again in case we made an error the first time. Same result. Two summers ago we power washed the flat surfaces to remove any leftover stain. We intended to re-stain the deck last year; we had bought Behr brand wood stain stripper, deck cleaner, and Cedar Naturaltone transparent penetrating oil wood finish with the intention of washing and sanding every surface and staining it again. then we got that derocho storm in May and the post storm damage prevented us from doing it.
Now we are going to do it this spring. But after watching this I don't know if I want to put all the work in of getting the entire deck back to its unfinished wood state just to put something else on it that isn't going to last since I live in Ottawa and can go to Randall's for the C2 product.
Since we bought the Behr stuff last year we can't return it and I don't want to waste the money by not using it ($66 a can and we bought two of them), but I also don't want to waste my time by using it and having to redo it all over again in a year or two. The pickle you've put me into! How can I convince my wife to take the loss on the Behr stuff and get the stuff you recommend?
you can return to home depot without a receipt and they still give you the majority of your money back in the form of a gift card.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY that's great! That pretty much settles what we're going to do moving forward then!
Hi Jeff! what color is this c2 stain? And my fence was installed approximately 11 months ago. Is it too late to stain it? Thank you in advance!
Gods I've been waiting for this episode
Would this work for some old deck boards that I flipped over? I assume with enough sanding and washing most of the stains will go away
Really want to get some of the c2 guard but the discount code says it can't be applied to my purchase..
thanks for the video ! what is the difference betweeen power wash and light sanding ?
What do you do about the under side of the boards? Water wicks up into the boards.
I have a question about staining. I looked for this solution online and can’t find a reliable answer. We have old, oak wood cabinets that I want to re-stain and not paint. But the oak grain is so porous and deep that the contrast on graining with the stain is so bold and contrasted. I want a more subtle wood look almost marble like. Is there anyway without painting, to fill in the deep graining so when I stain, it isn’t so loud? I looked at wood filler but it seems people only put it on for patch work or pre-painting. Any advice would be much appreciated!
Is the C2 Guard Fusion better to use if the deck gets a lot of sunlight exposure?
Hey jeff, what would you recommend for a deck cleaner? I tried the behr deck cleaner and im not too happy with it. I also bought this "30 seconds" outdoor cleaner, which seems to work better but i still have some algea that i can quite get off. Im debating on just sanding it after using the 30seconds for a second time but idk how well the pads will hold up with some algea left lol.
Jeff doesn’t engage in conversation with his viewers.
It's so easy sanding pine! Try Garapa!
Hey Jeff, build pressure treat deck last year. Can i use same procedure sand lightly and then stain? Thanks for video 👍
should be fine. you may need to use a deck wash which is basically bleach first. Cheers!
How long had this deck been down before you sanded and washed?
Never sand a deck with 220. Use 80 to open the grain. Never put stain on a sunny and warm day. It’s dry to fast and don’t penetrate. Use Color in the stain to protect red cedar against graying. Oil gives better results than stain. The stain is film forming and peels off quickly.
Would you also recommend this for a fifteen-year-old pressure-treated deck that has never been treated?
It is now completely grey but it seems to be in good shape.
Thanks!! 🙂
I have the same exact question