Your obsession over that 4070 quote from yt and twits needs to be studied... this war you got going on with the 200 people that believe that shit is wild... Your dedication to prove an obvious falsehood false is why you get mentioned in the likes of oh no it's Alex you make the same videos you just say it nicer with a more condescending tone
Eh! This is a sily statement. DF themselves did claim 4070. I just did not want to mention their names. Lol. They even confessed such in their videos. Stop trying to deflect. The reason we can't have good conversations is because folk like you don't want to be honest. Here is a link to it on Reddit with the DF video where he mentioned it. www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/1ffd3qs/richard_leadbetter_digital_foundry_thinks_a_pc_on/?rdt=64915
@@VGFightSchool digital foundry was talking about features for example a rtx 3050 6gb have ray tracing and dlss but is weaker then the rtx 1070 like how ps5 pro gpu have features like pissr but wont be faster then the 3070
@VGFightSchool I told you don't argue with PlayStation fanboys, they're both Toxic and delusional, they turned on foxy uk for saying starfield was a great game, and from that day till now his channel has never been the same when it comes to ponies
ROFL. All this back and forth and no mention of the real main issue with the Pro. We can all agree that the CPU is ~5 years old. The CPU in a "new" "premium" console is so old. Newer games like AW2, Space Marine 2 and beyond coming out are gonna push that old CPU harder and harder and there is no compensation to resolve that except dropping render rez to the point that PSSR wont be able to compensate. Do you really think epic and unreal 5 and other game engines coming out in 2025/2026+ are going to sit back and say "the PS5 pro CPU is 6 years old lets nerf our game " when graphics enhancements are literally what sells games? The games that run best on the Pro are NOT CPU intensive games or games that rely on heavy usage of mesh shaders. Current new CPUs and GPUs are going to push the gaming fidelity going forward because current consoles are out of date. Do you really expect the gaming industry to stop because the consoles are 5 years in the past. The "new" "professional" console has no future proofing. Because only Sony is making upscaled PS4 games. And everyone else will make PC games that make consoles look worse and worse.
Keep bringing understanding VGF!!!!!!!!!!! You didn't make fun of anybody and simply stated facts!!!!!!!! Anyone who watched this full video and are rational and have common sense should get it!!! Even the beloved "Digital Foundry" told them. But I guess if it doesn't suit their narrative, they will be mad a Digital Foundry as well. You also said if you want the PRO then buy it. This was for the youtubers and anyone else who are being disingenuous and lying to people. Knowing some of them come to RUclips to research those types of products to base a decision. Keep it up VGF!!!!!!!
My advice would be to wait for the sales... Base ps5 will eventually drop to 350 dollars in some 2 to 3 months and the ps5 pro will hit 550 or 500 dollars as faster than we think...
This result is interesting, but not surprising if you realize that a gaming PC has 2 processors for 2 specific tasks, thus it already double the processing capability, and those processors are specialised for their tasks too.
Honestly, it's just about what you want to invest in your hobby. Last time I was on PC I bought a 980 Nvidia for 450$ and couldn't sell it when I wanted a 1080 next. I was so mad about the shit offers I had that I decided to nail it to my wall. It was MSI, a beatiful work of art. On the other hand, a PS console sells in 2 days max. In 2015 I moved to PS and I'm really happy I did. No need to waste money on video cards again. Ever!
At this rate, the playstation console should catch up to the 4070 in at least two more generations. So 10 - 12 years minimum. And see another thing we all need you remember is the base ps5 started development right exactly when or maybe even before cards like the 2070 super were ALREADY out. So if sony fanboys really want to compete with pc then they need to pray to the sony gods to actually innovate a proprietary apu that will compete with cards and cpus at least 6 years in the future. Can we all sit here and agree sony will do that? It would take actual work and true innovation. So I don’t think so. They would rather ride the coattails of the true innovators like nvidia and amd and then package it as a sony innovation to sell to the fanboys.
These enhancements only enhance specific games and even then not to the same extent as a 4070. I got my 4070 for my birthday and am just enjoying cyberpunk in ways no other console will ever allow me to. All of PlayStations games are running out and just going to PC which we see will be better to play. The fact PlayStation is trying to get a game a year shows how out of touch they are. With their business model.
LinusTech thinks a 4070 is whats equivalent to a pro in one of his latest vids. I just shook my head. Tech guy shilling for Sony like DF. Its a 6800 (no xt) period.
The pro cant lock in 60 fps on heavy in performance mode even with a patch that game means game company hired the dev to changes graphic setting for the pro
dude you people need to do that 700 PC vs the ps5 pro because yall was telling everyone to get a 700 Pc over and ps5 pro nobody cares if ps5 pro can beat a 4070 . i want to see the ps5 pro vs the 700 PC yall was talking about before the pro came out
@VGFightSchool no it didn't because you the same dude who lied and said playstation would go out of business by 2024 same dude who xbox would buy playstation and Nintendo and be king of gaming even tho they cant sell their consoles all over the world.
@VGFightSchool you a xbot channel who lie for xbox but two years ago all you made is batman superhero videos than you went to talking bad about playstation because views
@@VGFightSchool I been going down every video you made and to me you a grifter some videos for just PC cant even get 1000 views but going after playstation got you 12k views your only xbox videos dont do numbere and your only PC videos dont do numbers so you need to make playstation hate videos
Bro the 3080ti is a beast and we are supposed to be comparing the ps5 pro to it... Lets see how it goes tho... A youtuber already did a detailed comparison btw the ps5 pro and 3080ti with PlayStation ported titles...
I heard that after the Digital Foundry video comparison, Amazon sold out paper tissues 😂😂😂😂 Walmart also sold out all kinds of papers that can wipe out tears😂😂😂
@VGFightSchool I told many of my co-workers. You guys are getting hype cause someone said it was going to be close to an RTX4070. I also told them to search for the difference between close performance and equal performance, cause you can't compare a console with a CPU that will hold back the console to a dedicated GPU with a good intel or amd CPU, you guys are going to be disappointed 😅😅
@@VGFightSchoolI own a PS5 Pro and a PC with a 4070. It is definetely not as good as my PC. Games run great on my PS5 Pro, don’t get me wrong, but it is not RTX 4070 level, nowhere near. RTX 4060 perhaps.
@@9190onin I've watched dozens and dozens of videos of people hating and praising the console. They were comparing it to the 4070, not the 4090. It's impossible to put a 4090 in there at $700... I think you misunderstood lol
@@xenogears5177 I know its impossible and its not much understanding when they said "it will be more powerful than a 4090". You said that no one said it and once I tell you someone who did. I some how misunderstood what they said.
alan wake 2 is a joke. way too hard to run with unnecessary amounts of ray traced effects. I'll wait 'til it's free on epic - maybe by then the hardware will have caught up enough to get reasonable performance out of the game.
and the 4070 is barely a 1440p gpu too, its the lowest you should buy when looking for 1440p and the ps5 pro cannot even do that without upscaling from 1080p or as low as 720p.
barely? I don't own one, but even a 6800xt is a 1440 beast and the 4070 gives it a run for its money in many game comparisons. Here - ruclips.net/video/WPE_CvvqJpY/видео.html
@@VGFightSchool sorry I was meant to say in AAA titles with or without dlss where games struggle to get 60fps and there is quite a lot of them out there that the 4070 struggles at 1440p and best suited for 1080p.
All in all. What I see. Sony proper up and over sold the refresh with “advance ray tracing” slightly upgraded hardware, and they need money to make up for the loss in the woke trash game that failed. Pc gamers were trying to warn new buyers and fan boys it’s not worth the money. Buy a used or new regular console you’ll see very little difference at the end of the day. Also, 4070. 3070, 3080, 3090, amd with their 6800, 6800xt and 6900xt smash the pro and they are just as old as the original ps5. The gaming pc is probably going to be a better option NOW given the used market is flooded with those gpus. When the ps5 and series x was released oh yes price to performance at the time compared to a cost of a pc was AWESOME. Now? Not so much. Waste of money. Not to mention the cost of games never going on sale, controllers frequently failing (my pc is 5+ years old and I’m still using the same keyboard and mouse) that was 120 bucks and each console controller costs what? 70? 80 bucks? It’s insane what console costs in the long run. Pc, 20 year old game fires up no prob. Sony? You want to play a 20 year old game? Often times your breaking out the ps2 for that nowadays.
Don't tell them that...lol. I have to make videos...😂 Obviously, PS and Xbox hav to go for cost. If they wnet NVIDIA, they'd have to charge at least $1000 after subsidy for NVIDIA technology on their consoles. What's worse is that NVIDIA might even tell them to go pound sand EVEN if they wanted to pay for it. lol
So, you picked one game that's unoptimized on consoles and are trying to use it as a representation of what the PS5 Pro is capable of, while ignoring numerous benchmarks from various outlets that clearly show it outperforming the RTX 4070 in non-CPU-bound games. The disingenuousness is real with this one.
You would have to talk to DF about that. What games is the PRO outperforming the 4070? Is it native? Is rasterized? Is it Ray Tracing? Is it upscaled? What games is it beating?
@@9190onin Digital Foundry is doing their job sincerely, showcasing how a game performs on consoles. However, the issue lies with Remedy, as they don't seem to optimize their games well for consoles. This was evident with their previous game, Control, too. Are we really supposed to believe Control could only achieve low settings on the PS5 and Series X when I managed better performance on my older PC with a GTX 970? You can't generalize a console's capabilities based on one game. Should we now highlight Dragon's Dogma 2, where the PS5 Pro outperforms PCs with Ryzen 5800X in terms of frame rates, and claim that PS5 pro CPU is superior to that? That's not how it works.
@@P.Strong.100again is DD2 native? Is it pure rasterization? Is it upscaled? Is it ray traced? Just looking at FPS and coming to the conclusion that it’s outperforms it is disingenuous. When DF video even shows they had to downscale the GPUs to 864p. Meaning they are trying to match the resolution the Pro puts out. When a dedicated GPU will run at a higher resolution. So are the comparisons changing the resolution of the GPU to match the Pro or are they running it at the out of the box resolution? Are they downclocking it?
The thing you ignore is that on PC, you have to spend more money to get performance that rivals console due to lack of optimization. Thats the advantage of consoles, they are much easier for devs to optimize their games for. So the PS5 can run some games at 4070 level performance.
If the comparison is a 6700 non XT and the CPU is a 5600 you’re not spending much more than the console and then you’re getting saving in other areas that don’t exist with the console. People need to stop comparing a console to a high end/flagship GPU, to try and prove a point.
@@zerosam5541exactly. I don’t it. If I got from a 4050/4060 to a 4070/4080 I’m going to notice a bump in performance without a dedicated patch. Shouldn’t the Pro automatically perform better by a larger margin than a couple FPS?
Pc is a pain in the balls especially if u wanna play on the big screen hdr looks like shit and some games have studder still that I guess they just can't fix. Also audio issues with Dolby format it's always something stupid I spend more time trouble shooting then playing. My pc has a 4070s and I never game on it over my ps5 nobody highlights the negatives of pc gaming they just take the easy dunks on consoles in comparisons like this that 4070 rig they put against the ps5 pro was more than likely twice the cost and pssr in its first generation while dlss is in its third I would hope it's better. Performance isn't everything, windows gaming doesn't come close.
I had to explain to a fanboy from another video that @2:23 up-scaled 4K is the reason most times ps5 can meet up with 60fps compared to Xbox native 4K. @TheCoolGamer24 (Christopher Owens) here is the reason why the PlayStation can meet their 60FPS target. PS I did this in university for 4 years. so I might not be great at it, but i have a basic understanding of it.
@Amhoj1 I hate having to continue explaining. So I'd try to be as concised as possible. Sony uses a lower quality in order to meet up with fps. In most games were Sony has a stable 60fps framerate on Digital foundry, the xbox series x is producing better quality and still almost meeting up with a stable 60fps
Your obsession over that 4070 quote from yt and twits needs to be studied... this war you got going on with the 200 people that believe that shit is wild... Your dedication to prove an obvious falsehood false is why you get mentioned in the likes of oh no it's Alex you make the same videos you just say it nicer with a more condescending tone
Eh! This is a sily statement. DF themselves did claim 4070. I just did not want to mention their names. Lol.
They even confessed such in their videos. Stop trying to deflect. The reason we can't have good conversations is because folk like you don't want to be honest.
Here is a link to it on Reddit with the DF video where he mentioned it.
www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/1ffd3qs/richard_leadbetter_digital_foundry_thinks_a_pc_on/?rdt=64915
Uh oh, another pony got maa'aad......
@SheepAmongG.O.A.T Xbox only here... We get it already lol
@@VGFightSchool digital foundry was talking about features for example a rtx 3050 6gb have ray tracing and dlss but is weaker then the rtx 1070 like how ps5 pro gpu have features like pissr but wont be faster then the 3070
@VGFightSchool I told you don't argue with PlayStation fanboys, they're both Toxic and delusional, they turned on foxy uk for saying starfield was a great game, and from that day till now his channel has never been the same when it comes to ponies
It should be a crime to mention the RTX 4070 and any current gen console in the same sentence.
It's always fun to see Ps5 pro getting obliterated. Then see ponies convince themselves this scam of a console can outperform dedicated gpu in 4070.
True
Cheers bro. May gaming grow to new heights minus the fanboys. May consumers win together.
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PS5 PRO didnt even met my lowest expectation
ROFL.
All this back and forth and no mention of the real main issue with the Pro.
We can all agree that the CPU is ~5 years old.
The CPU in a "new" "premium" console is so old.
Newer games like AW2, Space Marine 2 and beyond coming out are gonna push that old CPU harder and harder and there is no compensation to resolve that except dropping render rez to the point that PSSR wont be able to compensate.
Do you really think epic and unreal 5 and other game engines coming out in 2025/2026+ are going to sit back and say "the PS5 pro CPU is 6 years old lets nerf our game " when graphics enhancements are literally what sells games?
The games that run best on the Pro are NOT CPU intensive games or games that rely on heavy usage of mesh shaders.
Current new CPUs and GPUs are going to push the gaming fidelity going forward because current consoles are out of date.
Do you really expect the gaming industry to stop because the consoles are 5 years in the past.
The "new" "professional" console has no future proofing. Because only Sony is making upscaled PS4 games. And everyone else will make PC games that make consoles look worse and worse.
And we haven't even started. Lol
Base PS5 has like 2070 Super equivalent, while PS5 Pro is just 2080 Ti. This is a huge scam from Sony.
Why are people surprised that an RTX 4070 is faster? it better be for its price
Its only double the Tflops 'n all. I know Tflops don't tell the whole story but it's certainly part of it.
You can make it even better by overclocking it.
Keep bringing understanding VGF!!!!!!!!!!! You didn't make fun of anybody and simply stated facts!!!!!!!! Anyone who watched this full video and are rational and have common sense should get it!!! Even the beloved "Digital Foundry" told them. But I guess if it doesn't suit their narrative, they will be mad a Digital Foundry as well. You also said if you want the PRO then buy it. This was for the youtubers and anyone else who are being disingenuous and lying to people. Knowing some of them come to RUclips to research those types of products to base a decision. Keep it up VGF!!!!!!!
Do u really think .......SONY......was going to make a PlayStation equivalent to a 4070?😂,PlayStation fanboys are dreaming
My advice would be to wait for the sales... Base ps5 will eventually drop to 350 dollars in some 2 to 3 months and the ps5 pro will hit 550 or 500 dollars as faster than we think...
By the time those drops happen ps6 will exist and the rtx 5000 seris will be out,rtx 4070 will be cheap in used market
@zerosam5541 we will be getting at least 100 dollars drop this december or a bundle that has perks that mitigates 100 dollars on the pro...
Ps5 pro is just a waste of money if u own a ps5 and the pro is nowhere close to being worth 700
This result is interesting, but not surprising if you realize that a gaming PC has 2 processors for 2 specific tasks, thus it already double the processing capability, and those processors are specialised for their tasks too.
So basically it's performing just like a rtx 3060 would 😂😂😂 RIP PS5 pro
Honestly, it's just about what you want to invest in your hobby. Last time I was on PC I bought a 980 Nvidia for 450$ and couldn't sell it when I wanted a 1080 next. I was so mad about the shit offers I had that I decided to nail it to my wall. It was MSI, a beatiful work of art. On the other hand, a PS console sells in 2 days max. In 2015 I moved to PS and I'm really happy I did. No need to waste money on video cards again. Ever!
Rtx 4070 can do Cyberpunk 2077 in 1440p with path tracing, ps5 can't
At this rate, the playstation console should catch up to the 4070 in at least two more generations. So 10 - 12 years minimum. And see another thing we all need you remember is the base ps5 started development right exactly when or maybe even before cards like the 2070 super were ALREADY out. So if sony fanboys really want to compete with pc then they need to pray to the sony gods to actually innovate a proprietary apu that will compete with cards and cpus at least 6 years in the future. Can we all sit here and agree sony will do that? It would take actual work and true innovation. So I don’t think so. They would rather ride the coattails of the true innovators like nvidia and amd and then package it as a sony innovation to sell to the fanboys.
That going to cost them a lot of money for sony to make amd make a ultra high end apu
These enhancements only enhance specific games and even then not to the same extent as a 4070. I got my 4070 for my birthday and am just enjoying cyberpunk in ways no other console will ever allow me to. All of PlayStations games are running out and just going to PC which we see will be better to play.
The fact PlayStation is trying to get a game a year shows how out of touch they are. With their business model.
LinusTech thinks a 4070 is whats equivalent to a pro in one of his latest vids. I just shook my head. Tech guy shilling for Sony like DF. Its a 6800 (no xt) period.
I have the pro and I promise every game is the same on Series X
The pro cant lock in 60 fps on heavy in performance mode even with a patch that game means game company hired the dev to changes graphic setting for the pro
dude you people need to do that 700 PC vs the ps5 pro because yall was telling everyone to get a 700 Pc over and ps5 pro nobody cares if ps5 pro can beat a 4070 . i want to see the ps5 pro vs the 700 PC yall was talking about before the pro came out
They were all right in front of you. That ship sailed weeks ago.
@VGFightSchool no it didn't because you the same dude who lied and said playstation would go out of business by 2024 same dude who xbox would buy playstation and Nintendo and be king of gaming even tho they cant sell their consoles all over the world.
@VGFightSchool you a xbot channel who lie for xbox but two years ago all you made is batman superhero videos than you went to talking bad about playstation because views
@@VGFightSchool I been going down every video you made and to me you a grifter some videos for just PC cant even get 1000 views but going after playstation got you 12k views your only xbox videos dont do numbere and your only PC videos dont do numbers so you need to make playstation hate videos
@@TheCoolgame24 Me? When did I say PlayStation will go out of business?
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Bro the 3080ti is a beast and we are supposed to be comparing the ps5 pro to it... Lets see how it goes tho... A youtuber already did a detailed comparison btw the ps5 pro and 3080ti with PlayStation ported titles...
And they never use AMD GPUs equivalent that's supposed to be RX 6800 in the Playstation 5 pro
This was already known. my 4080 super has over 50 teraflops its 3 times stronger then the ps5 pro gpu. the 4070 super blows it away as well.
I heard that after the Digital Foundry video comparison, Amazon sold out paper tissues 😂😂😂😂 Walmart also sold out all kinds of papers that can wipe out tears😂😂😂
oh boy!!! I think many level headed PS5 pro owners knew what they were buying. Some just got swept away with the hype.
@VGFightSchool I told many of my co-workers. You guys are getting hype cause someone said it was going to be close to an RTX4070. I also told them to search for the difference between close performance and equal performance, cause you can't compare a console with a CPU that will hold back the console to a dedicated GPU with a good intel or amd CPU, you guys are going to be disappointed 😅😅
@@VGFightSchoolI own a PS5 Pro and a PC with a 4070. It is definetely not as good as my PC. Games run great on my PS5 Pro, don’t get me wrong, but it is not RTX 4070 level, nowhere near. RTX 4060 perhaps.
Alen stays sleeping on the ps5 pro😂
Some was saying it would beat a 4090
I never seen one person say that.. lol
@@xenogears5177then you must not be watching. I believe it was Jaydub who said it was more powerful than a 4090. So nice try
@@9190onin I've watched dozens and dozens of videos of people hating and praising the console. They were comparing it to the 4070, not the 4090. It's impossible to put a 4090 in there at $700... I think you misunderstood lol
@@xenogears5177 I know its impossible and its not much understanding when they said "it will be more powerful than a 4090". You said that no one said it and once I tell you someone who did. I some how misunderstood what they said.
@xenogears5177 man you underestimate ponies..some youtubers did
How are them loading and installing times. They better be on point for that price. For that price, it better just start playing like on the PS3 SMDH
tell me you load in games in 30 secs or 50 secs
AMD doesnt have the money to keep up with both Intel and NVIDIA. Its gonna be one or the other
Excellent work my guy... got em again 🤪
I'd say the ps5 pro probably more like a rx6800. As the pro is just slightly faster than the series x which is equivalent to a rx6700xt.
Ps5 pro is a scam. Ps5 pro is only for people who never owned any console before. Wait until the ps6 hits the market.
alan wake 2 is a joke. way too hard to run with unnecessary amounts of ray traced effects. I'll wait 'til it's free on epic - maybe by then the hardware will have caught up enough to get reasonable performance out of the game.
and the 4070 is barely a 1440p gpu too, its the lowest you should buy when looking for 1440p and the ps5 pro cannot even do that without upscaling from 1080p or as low as 720p.
barely? I don't own one, but even a 6800xt is a 1440 beast and the 4070 gives it a run for its money in many game comparisons.
Here - ruclips.net/video/WPE_CvvqJpY/видео.html
@@VGFightSchool sorry I was meant to say in AAA titles with or without dlss where games struggle to get 60fps and there is quite a lot of them out there that the 4070 struggles at 1440p and best suited for 1080p.
All in all. What I see. Sony proper up and over sold the refresh with “advance ray tracing” slightly upgraded hardware, and they need money to make up for the loss in the woke trash game that failed. Pc gamers were trying to warn new buyers and fan boys it’s not worth the money. Buy a used or new regular console you’ll see very little difference at the end of the day. Also, 4070. 3070, 3080, 3090, amd with their 6800, 6800xt and 6900xt smash the pro and they are just as old as the original ps5. The gaming pc is probably going to be a better option NOW given the used market is flooded with those gpus. When the ps5 and series x was released oh yes price to performance at the time compared to a cost of a pc was AWESOME. Now? Not so much. Waste of money. Not to mention the cost of games never going on sale, controllers frequently failing (my pc is 5+ years old and I’m still using the same keyboard and mouse) that was 120 bucks and each console controller costs what? 70? 80 bucks? It’s insane what console costs in the long run. Pc, 20 year old game fires up no prob. Sony? You want to play a 20 year old game? Often times your breaking out the ps2 for that nowadays.
As long as PlayStation and Xbox keep using amd chips they will always be behind
Don't tell them that...lol. I have to make videos...😂
Obviously, PS and Xbox hav to go for cost. If they wnet NVIDIA, they'd have to charge at least $1000 after subsidy for NVIDIA technology on their consoles.
What's worse is that NVIDIA might even tell them to go pound sand EVEN if they wanted to pay for it. lol
Advanced level ray tracing = below low pc ray tracing settings😂😂
ublock for firefox big dog
That's even worse than i expected.
😂😂 ps5 pro..i swear digital foundry are doing everything to try and save this thing
I want 4070 comparisons..ps5 pro will die
There's a chanel that counters all your videos... I will head over there to see their face...😅
lol. I've never heard of it. It'll be interesting though.
So, you picked one game that's unoptimized on consoles and are trying to use it as a representation of what the PS5 Pro is capable of, while ignoring numerous benchmarks from various outlets that clearly show it outperforming the RTX 4070 in non-CPU-bound games. The disingenuousness is real with this one.
ok what games and what resolution
You would have to talk to DF about that.
What games is the PRO outperforming the 4070? Is it native? Is rasterized? Is it Ray Tracing? Is it upscaled?
What games is it beating?
@@9190onin Digital Foundry is doing their job sincerely, showcasing how a game performs on consoles. However, the issue lies with Remedy, as they don't seem to optimize their games well for consoles. This was evident with their previous game, Control, too. Are we really supposed to believe Control could only achieve low settings on the PS5 and Series X when I managed better performance on my older PC with a GTX 970?
You can't generalize a console's capabilities based on one game. Should we now highlight Dragon's Dogma 2, where the PS5 Pro outperforms PCs with Ryzen 5800X in terms of frame rates, and claim that PS5 pro CPU is superior to that? That's not how it works.
@@truth6316 linux tech tips and NX gamer. Watch benchmarks.
@@P.Strong.100again is DD2 native? Is it pure rasterization? Is it upscaled? Is it ray traced?
Just looking at FPS and coming to the conclusion that it’s outperforms it is disingenuous.
When DF video even shows they had to downscale the GPUs to 864p. Meaning they are trying to match the resolution the Pro puts out. When a dedicated GPU will run at a higher resolution.
So are the comparisons changing the resolution of the GPU to match the Pro or are they running it at the out of the box resolution? Are they downclocking it?
The thing you ignore is that on PC, you have to spend more money to get performance that rivals console due to lack of optimization. Thats the advantage of consoles, they are much easier for devs to optimize their games for.
So the PS5 can run some games at 4070 level performance.
If the comparison is a 6700 non XT and the CPU is a 5600 you’re not spending much more than the console and then you’re getting saving in other areas that don’t exist with the console. People need to stop comparing a console to a high end/flagship GPU, to try and prove a point.
Nice cope games are also unmpotmized on console you guys are waiting for a game to get updated for the pro
@@zerosam5541exactly. I don’t it. If I got from a 4050/4060 to a 4070/4080 I’m going to notice a bump in performance without a dedicated patch. Shouldn’t the Pro automatically perform better by a larger margin than a couple FPS?
"So the PS5 can run some games at 4070 performance level" where is the proof of this? It doesn't exist 💀
Pc is a pain in the balls especially if u wanna play on the big screen hdr looks like shit and some games have studder still that I guess they just can't fix. Also audio issues with Dolby format it's always something stupid I spend more time trouble shooting then playing. My pc has a 4070s and I never game on it over my ps5 nobody highlights the negatives of pc gaming they just take the easy dunks on consoles in comparisons like this that 4070 rig they put against the ps5 pro was more than likely twice the cost and pssr in its first generation while dlss is in its third I would hope it's better. Performance isn't everything, windows gaming doesn't come close.
I had to explain to a fanboy from another video that @2:23 up-scaled 4K is the reason most times ps5 can meet up with 60fps compared to Xbox native 4K. @TheCoolGamer24 (Christopher Owens) here is the reason why the PlayStation can meet their 60FPS target. PS I did this in university for 4 years. so I might not be great at it, but i have a basic understanding of it.
In what games are xbox doing native 4k?
@Amhoj1 rdr2 from xbox one x has always been native 4k
@Amhoj1 watch most of the digital foundry videos
@@Respectfully10 You do know ps5 also achieves native 4K in some games right?
@Amhoj1
I hate having to continue explaining. So I'd try to be as concised as possible.
Sony uses a lower quality in order to meet up with fps. In most games were Sony has a stable 60fps framerate on Digital foundry, the xbox series x is producing better quality and still almost meeting up with a stable 60fps