Why I use Omniscope? UK PRO Colorist
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- I wanted to upgrade my DaVinci Resolve scopes. I've had my eye on these for a few months and I finally chose Nobe Omniscope from Time In Pixels. I'll show you why and how to set it up in this episode. The dedicated DaVinci Resolve scopes work fantastically but I wanted these extra features so was worth the upgrade for me.
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00:28 How to install Omniscope in Resolve
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Brilliant demo. We just upgraded to Omniscope a couple of months ago and it's a terrific system. I learned more from Darren's demo than I did from the manual! (I'm a slow learner.)
Glad you enjoyed it Marc. I totally love my omniscopes!
Really interesting - Tom must be really happy with this. Keep'em coming Darren. Here to support you. Watch one and I am already looking forward to the next one.
No more scope stuff for a while I think! I am loving them, however I just came off my ancient Ultrascopes so not surprising. Not convinced my 34" wide is right ..? Needs a few more jobs to weigh up.
First big grading session using them today. I love them! Music promo for Amazon Music - looks fab and the scopes really easy to read on a long session. Used the mask tool about a dozen times because it was easy to do! Highly recommend. Rock solid too.
Amazing and very informative as always. Thanks Darren!
Thank you Alex.
Oh this is interesting! I'm gonna have to take a look at these!
Just done a full day grade on a big job for Amazon Music today with them - first time in action - LOVE THEM.
This was very interesting. Of course, as a complete beginner in modest-scale video-making and post-production, programs such as Nobe extend far beyond my personal graticules -- and will remain there because I'm not afflicted with acute GASP (Gear Acquisition Syndrome Poverty). But imagine my delight when I was able to follow along, understanding some things and getting the basic points of others. The software looks superbly well designed! Thanks for sharing your insights about it.
Thanks Adam. Good to know you are following along anyway. Thanks for posting - good to hear from you.
Thanks, for your great omniscope review, without your explanation and walkthrough I would have not used it properly (or bought it the first place)
Pleased to hear that - hope you used my discount links..? They have just updated them so make sure you on latest version. All the best, Darren
Fantastic video! I can see a third video monitor in my future to show all these scopes.
go for it Ken!
Wow!! Thats insider knowledge 😄
Glad you enjoyed it and congrats on winning a copy of omnisocope on my Live last night! You'll love it!
Great review. I've been testing these out this week. Thanks for the tips. I suggested to Tom he should put a few layout presets in the list to get people going. Perhaps he should add the Darren Mostyn present as one of them.
Im just downloading 1.5 now. I LOVE this product so much!!!
Love ur information... Always learn from you. I am an advanced pc user... No so as a resolve colorist. Bought the pro scopes with ur discount. Thanks. It appears to me that the native resolve waveform display looks better, tighter than the omniscope waveforms.
I don't see the point of this for resolve, other NLE's sure.
Nice video :)
Glad you enjoyed it
Great videos Darren, you're really helping me up my game with DaVinci.
Is it possible to use DaVinci during video capture? Can you use it as a monitoring tool for cinematography?
Hello Steve. Yes, there is a live capture feature, however I have never used it. You set that up in the user preferences. Can you use omniscope for cinematography? Yes ...you just assign the input on start up so for example you may be using Blackmagic mini monitor.
Really a budget scope box 😍👍👍👍
I've not used scope box so would be very unfair of me to comment, however I did my research first and omniscope ticked more boxes for me personally.
WoW! this is a super cool software. Thanks for sharing this Darren! Dose it work with Nuke by any chance.
No idea....But it works with IO cards form Blackmagic so if you can feed it out of Nuke then yes.
Hi Darren how are you looking at the scopes on another machine? does it take much processor from your mac
VERY INTERESTING. I just bought an M2 Mac mini and am building a higher grade editing PC. Can you recommend grading monitors for both or either?
Thanks a lot for the informative and detailed video.
Is it possible to change Omniscope scale from percentages (0 to 100%) to code and/or nit values?
Need pro version I believe for NIT values.
Is there any difference (except of course it takes ressources) if you would run it on an external machine vs on the same machine you are editing of? And perhaps could you make a video explaining how exactly you dual machine is setup? I don't really understand - you put another output of you ultra studio to what? The monitor or the PC?
He uses an IO box like the blackmagic ultra studio/ultra studio mini.
Same with my Blackmagic Design Video Assist 5" and 7" monitors. Waveform specifically looks cleaner... Tighter. Thanks.
for some reason the rgb picker doesn't work on the snapshot it only picks up the colour from the source and even when i try to pin that all the values just say 0
Hi Darren. Just purchased. Need a bit of help on source image. It shows my log image instead of graded. The Manual says to put cst before & after for rec 709. Still doesn't look right. The project is dwg auto. Must it be yrgb to work correctly? Thanks for reading.
Check out omniscope web site for how to set it up correctly. I use a sepaerate workstation so its different to your set up.
thank you for the video. Can I get all this instruments which you positioned in the window subscribing to Video version, not to Pro version?
I have the Pro version.
I wish something like this would work with Capture One. perhaps just through a client monitor setup?
Is this particular version the Video or Pro version. I'm sure it's the Pro but would just the video version do this?
New version of OmniScope on the way. Hi Darren. Thmasz Huczek from Nobe responded to my original comment, where I wrote "although OmniScope was impressive, I felt it was a tad expensive".
We'll as it turns out they are currently working on a lighter version of OmniScope at a lower price point, which is fantastic news right.
I replied by saying, I'll order one as soon as it's available. Brilliant
Thanks again Darren
Sounds good. I used them all day today. Love them!!
Hi Darren. Impressive and as you say, if you use it every day for professional work then indeed an invaluable asset. On the other hand, I have to agree with other people, a little expensive for me. If they drop the price by half they certainly get a lot more customers, I'll would jump at it. After all when da vinci systems had Resolve they had a hundred customers in 2008, within two years Blackmagic had over a million customers, even today with the neverending limited time offer of a free Speed editor, perhaps they're think again.
Sorry for the Winge Darren, looking forward to the next episode
Thanks again for your time
Andrew, keep in mind that DaVinci Resolve is not the product that brings profit to BlackMagic. They treat it as a marketing tool giving it away for free (even the studio version - the price doesn't reflect the software's value, at all). Blackmagic is primarily a hardware company and DaVinci Resolve drives their hardware sales.
That said, we are going to release a new version of OmniScope - something between Photo and Pro. It will be aimed at video professionals but some high end features will be disabled in that version.
@@filmsbytomasz Hi, thanks for your reply that's brilliant news, I'll certainly be placing an order when the software's becomes available.
To be honest in my comment I considered the amount of engineering department involved, and yes you've absolutely right about Blackmagic Davinci is a loss leader.
When I get a chance I'll place a new comment on Darren's channel.
Thanks again, looking forward to the new Scopes nice one
Is there a snap/magnet mode to get the scope windows to line up perfectly?
I use omniscope on a dedicated monitor so not really tried to be honest.
I got to ask, how would I run this on a separate machine? How do I send my resolve output to a second machine running this? What other hardware would I need?
Simplest setup would be BlackMagic Mini Monitor connected to your Resolve system, BlackMagic Mini Recorder on your scope machine and SDI cable between them.
What file and color space settings would you recomend for A7S3?
Ive not really done anything with mine yet except sadly shoot intros for RUclips! Im not a DP but Slog3 always grades well, with cine.gamut Hope that helps, but maybe check out tutorials from DP's for better advise - Im definitely POST Production!
Hi Darren, is there any minimum requirement if I ran Nobe Omniscope on a dedicated PC like you do? Thanks
no idea. Check Time In Pixels web site. Im not a PC geek. Mine is an AVID edit approved workstation.
@@DarrenMostyn Thanks Darren, I am building a dedicated PC for this scope just you did, it is such an amazing tool for color grading!
Hi Darren, what external machine would you recommend to run the scopes?
I have a windows machine with 2x GTX1080TI GPU, is it good enough to run the scopes as an OFX in timeline mode? Or will I expect slow response and crashes? Thanks.
If you monitor FullHD signal then you won't notice any performance drop with this setup. With 4K it still should work fine but it might have some impact on Resolve performance (especially with some heavy timelines - NR, OFX, etc). Best if you can grab a trial a play with it - you can use the pro version fro 14 days for free.
@@filmsbytomasz Thanks. I'll try
Hi Darren great video, I have been thinking about upgrading my Scopes to Nobe, So I can have scopes that work in HDR, I have a separate system for the scopes, and at first I thought just a simple decklink mini recorder 4K would do, but then started wondering about the color precision and the mini monitor only works in SDI at 4:2:2 10 bit, so started to wonder if I would need the 8K decklink pro, which is the only one that guarantees UHD 4K 12 bit 4:4:4 even at 60p, have you done any tests on that? any thoughts?
Hi Caryl. For HDR you can work 10 bit. With HDMI you need to make sure its not running the old 1.4 version of HDMI which many og the slightly older BMD models use. The ultrastudio mini 4K is perfectly good for HDR. Hope that helps.
@@DarrenMostyn Thank you so much for the reply, working in Dolby Vision automatically makes the output 4:4:4, the mini 4K doesn't do 4:4:4 on SDI at 4K, my HDMI goes to the client LG TV, how do you do a workaround on that? I have a Ultrastudio 4K extreme 3 by the way
@@carylkorma969 I’m going to be in the same situation using the UltraStudio 4K TB3 Capture and Playback. Interesting to hear an answer on this.
First of all great demonstration. I'm thinking bout getting scope box. I have a PC rig and I just purchased a Mac mini to operate scopebox as a stand alone to run with Davinci Resolve. In order to do that I have to have a BMD Ultra studio or decklink? Did you do a video for stand alone usage with Davinci resolve?
I don't have scope box. I use Nobe omniscope from Time In Pixels. I use an ultra studio but it will run inside Resolve as software scope. you will need an output IO but can be simple mini monitor IO. Hope that helps.
@@DarrenMostyn yes that does help. And I appreciate that u still took the time to explain how Nobe works. After I wrote a response I then realized it wasn't Scope box and went to the Nobe website. ( I find out isn't only MacOS compatible). For me that works great won't require another rig. As a Plug in I could essentially open it and designate to it's own monitor couldn't I? Will definitely have to rewatch the video. Thanks again for the info.
you wont regret it. I know lots of pros coming from scope box TO nobe omniscope. Also make sure you use the link in the description of that video for discount. You have to use that link to make it work. Cant recommend it highly enough. Yes you could put on a separate monitor. I run mine on a PC here. Best option is separate IO unit on separate machine - it is much slicker that way. Good luck.
@@DarrenMostyn thank you. I will be using the link. The discount will minimize the annual cost moderately. Hopefully the setup is straightforward. Couldn't locate a how to setup as a stand alone.
@@jcinewilliams8819 install software - it saw Resolve immediately. Very easy. You'll be fine. Its very straightforward.
How would this software compare with the hardware scopes Tektronix makes?
Software scopes are certainly accurate so that is not an issue. I don't have metrics to compare really. I haven't used hardware scopes for over 10 years. Also consider these scopes are resolution independent and lots of added features, like masking. I have no idea what a Tektronix box costs now but I promise you it will be much more than the cost of software and probably the computer it is running on.
The masking on the scopes is a massive time saver.
First big grade job on it today, so I'll see!
Great video Darren. Just downloaded the trial. Do you know if there are any issues working in DaVinci Wide Gamut? The vectorscope looks like it’s giving a read out on the wide gamut rather than the output colour space. That is to say it doesn’t match the Resolve vectorscope, the trace is much smaller.
How are you set up..? are you using OFX on timeline or edit adjustment layer or output to an I/O device. What is your output colour space in resolve colour managed..?
@@DarrenMostyn Output colour space is Rec 709. I’m using it as OFX on Timeline node, but have also tried as an adjustment layer with the same result.
@@slinkymotion OK, let me check when Im in the studio tomorrow. Im using mine as dedicated scopes on a PC so cant say from the last week of using of the top of my head. Im really happy with them but will look into your scenario for you. All the best.
@@DarrenMostyn Thanks mate! I’m in Melbourne, just starting my day, so I’ll have a more thorough look today and report back if I figure it out. I have to agree, I’m also really happy with them.
If you use it as on OFX then the plugin gets the timeline colorspace. Which means it gets DaVinci WG and OmniScope treats it as Rec709. This is why your scopes look incorrect.
The quick workaround for it is to use built-in plugin Color Transform and create a "node sandwitch" WG -> Rec709 -> OmniScope -> WG.
The same workaround for ACES is described here:
timeinpixels.com/2019/06/nobe-display-in-aces/
Hope this helps!
hey Darren, Assume some of us are on a laptop..how do we grade blindly? what should we consider when using a Rec709 reference
Hello Mike. I don't doubt for a moment that many are grading blindly on uncalibrated monitors. It's keeping me in business, put it that way :))) I have no answer for grading not knowing what your reference is. Its not the end of the world if not broadcast, but I wouldn't get another commission from the BBC if my monitor was not calibrated and my look was affected accordingly. However, I appreciate not everyone has to be broadcast compliant. An ipad pro is going to give you a very good reference image for example. Back to your question.."How do we grade blindly"..? DONT because you dont have to - would be my best answer. Hope that helps and is meant to help - Im aware calibration costs so do it you can. If not - see if your customer is happy then you are good.
@@DarrenMostyn thank you for your answer..I hear you Loud and clearly.
@@mikelollyp Thanks Mike. Hope it helps. I have asked for a hire monitor from a suite before because the monitor was so off that I knew my grade would be too far off. I mean it was so far off I could see with naked eye - I always load a colour bar on a suite that is not mine just to get a rough idea if its in check. You can't calibrate by eye but you can see if its out! Thankfully this is not common in pro suites.
Thanks for the review. but what I don't understand is omniscopes is more expensive than the whole davinci software and it's a subscription. davinci scopes are fine and free I will stick to that.
You can't compare these scopes to Resolve. Resolve is a freeware, which has the only purpose of driving hardware sales for Blackmagic. That does not make other software developer's work free of any value. The price is actually pretty fair. Have you ever seen what a Tektronix Waveform Analyser costs? Or Leader? Or AJA Image analyser? You'd be glad to pay what OmniScope costs. Sure, Resolve has it's own scopes and if these are enough for you, there is no point in buying something better. But if you require something better, OmniScope is cheap. Why do you think people still buy other grading softwares, such as Assimilate SCRATCH, SGO Mistika, or Filmlight Baselight? All of them more expensive than Resolve. It's because they do something that Resolve doesn't and that is required. Again, if you don't need the extra juice, that's fine. No point in buying. But if you do, this is fucking cheap.
also remember, DaVinci Resolve Studio is ridiculously cheap - that doesn't mean that no other software can be sold above that price. These scopes are well worth the money IF and ONLY IF you want added features in your scopes. if not, Happy days - you have scopes in DaVinci Resolve. All the best.
HI Darren, here is a question I can't seem to find a clear answer to in the forums, or in the Resolve Facebook Group or the manual. I have some color bars I purposly exported from AVID with illegal video levels. When I bring them into Resolve 17, no matter what I do it brings the levels into rec 709 range. I made sure that I have the Safe levels turned off, and I have the Data levels in the project settings set to retain sub-black and super white data, yet the scopes only show the video pushed to legal rec 709 levels. and In clip atributes it doesnt make a difference either. Also I exported the clip with retain super black and white data in the deliver advanced menu and it is exporting with pushing the levels to legal levels. I want to be able to export the illegal bars and also see the bars pushing above legal in the scopes. Is this a bug? I have tried every combination of things you can imagine and can't make the bars I brought in illegal. I even changed the color management and that did nothing.
Have you checked they are still illegal after export from AVID ..? Clip attributes force to DATA. Also, try exporting form AVID as DPX..? Hope that helps.
@@DarrenMostyn They are illegal for sure out of avid. I brought the clip back into avid and its 120 ire luma.. so yes. I wonder what is a way for me to see if a clip is actually illegal on the source side in Resolve.
Thanks. That price tag is scary though ;)
It is an investment, understand not for everyone. Worth every penny if you do this all day.
@@DarrenMostyn Agreed.
Agreed. No excuse for being more expensive than buying the whole Davinci Resolve Studio!
@@Leonidaspa64 I don't agree. DaVinci Resolve is not a benchmark that any software over £235 is not worth it.
@@DarrenMostyn I didn't say that. I said that in comparison to what Resolve is providing for its price, these are very expensive, not matter how good they are. And not all of us have the same idea about what is expensive.
Hey Darren...do you have a central download area for your free stuff? Every time I click on a download (like the node tree above) it asks me to join your email list which I have already done. Cheers, brother :)
Only two free downloads so far. If you already subscribed then you would have got an email today with the Sky replace. Check your junk mail. New subscribers get two links to the node tree from my Slog3 episode and the Sky Replace. Only subscribe once. if you click that link it will ask you to subscribe. Email me if any problem. Hope that helps.
@@DarrenMostyn Hey Darren...I did get the Sky Replace download links - thanks for that! Rebuilt that shot (animated the sky as well) - very helpful!! I did not get a link for the node tree. No worries. Just thought it would be cool. Still trying to figure out my own base workflow as to a standard node tree. Cheers!! Bought you a coffee!!
@@joeymorelli2511 Thank you so much - you didnt need to buy me a coffee to get you what I'm delivering free! But thank you anyway. I'll send you the node tree if you can DM me or email me or instagram me. Thanks Joey. And thank you again for the coffee!. have a good weekend.
Hi Joey. You would have got the node tree in te original reply to your subscription. I will send you now. All the best, darren.
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Love your videos
Thank you - means a lot!
Well worth the price if you do this for a living. A bit pricey if you do this as a hobby / just playing around.
agreed Jim. If its for hobby the Resolve scopes are perfect - they are the same quality - it is just extra features. Enjoy!
sorry but not convinced... are you saying it is not free? My build-in scopes are good enough.
Your built in scopes are perfect, don't worry. You don't need these scopes - Just like any plug-in.
WTF 340€!!! Tooo expensive!!! Resolve studio is cheaper then this plugin OMG
Hi Leo. Too expensive is relative really. The scopes are as important as the grading monitor and so for tools that make my job easier I have no problem with the price. I completely understand that it is not for everyone and the internal Resolve scopes are perfect too. Those that buy 3rd party scopes know why they are doing it. All the best.
You can't compare these scopes to Resolve. Resolve is a freeware, which has the only purpose of driving hardware sales for Blackmagic. That does not make other software developer's work free of any value. The price is actually pretty fair. Have you ever seen what a Tektronix Waveform Analyser costs? Or Leader? Or AJA Image analyser? You'd be glad to pay what OmniScope costs. Sure, Resolve has it's own scopes and if these are enough for you, there is no point in buying something better. But if you require something better, OmniScope is cheap. Why do you think people still buy other grading softwares, such as Assimilate SCRATCH, SGO Mistika, or Filmlight Baselight? All of them more expensive than Resolve. It's because they do something that Resolve doesn't and that is required. Again, if you don't need the extra juice, that's fine. No point in buying. But if you do, this is fucking cheap.
@@mazzeaderhold4045 resolve studio version 295$ and plugin is 340euro
@@DarrenMostyn and us who doesnt know we wont buy it... and blackmagic studio should change company policy instead 299dollars for studio version they should raise 3000 euro
@@giznofx I know that. I'm saying, you should not compare the two. OmniScope does more than Resolve's scopes. A Baselight does more in terms of color than Resolve. And Pro Tools does more in Sound than Resolve and Avid doe smore in Editing than Resolve. They all cost more than Resolve. If you need that "more" - then then the price is justified. Resolve is offered at this insanely low price, because it is a vehicle for Blackmagic to drive hardware sales. But that doesn't make it the measure of all things. Other software vendors do not sell hardware to cross-finance their software development. In fact, MOST software vendors do not do that. Does that make their work less valuable? No, it does not. And to add: OmniScope is not a plugin to Resolve. It's a standalone app, that can be hooked in via a plugin. And the features it offers are amazing compared to Resolve's own scopes. Again - if you don't need these features, no point in buying OmniScope. But it's not fair to compare it's price to Resolve's. Maintaining development for a software like that is a full time job. It should be paid accordingly. And the price of OmniScope is 100% justified, considering what it offers.
Please speak slower and clearer
I'll speak how I speak - I dont want to change how I am.. Im me. Use speed controls in RUclips maybe but I cant change how I speak. Thanks
It's called English. Welcome 😂