I'm one of the oddballs that actually use yellow guardian. I love being able to level and never worry about dieing even when pulling a full camp. I don't do endgame but I'm doing compeltionist run on everything else. To be fair, i do dip deep into red for more dps as I level.
Hey Renfail, recently returned to the game after 12 years and I am levelling a yellow line Guardian and doing 3 man instances with friends. While I am only low level (32) Yellow is really pretty decent and goes over the top of red with what it can do. You have 4 AOE attacks which enables you to pull entire camps and destroy them. The debuffs and self healing just allow you to grind out mass packs while having the self healing to outlast most bosses. You have stuns, interrupts and options for sword and shield as well as 2H Sword play. If you want to chat about it just ping me a message. For those of you who played WOW - Yellow line Guardian is effectively a prot paladin from WOTLK era. It is very powerful if you are facing multiple mobs.
One of the things that makes playing a Guardian fun is the reactive abilities. If you get stunned (or whatever) you use Turn the Tables and now your opponent is stunned instead! They swing at you and you parry, that opens up Whirling Retaliation (or Retaliation which does less damage and only hits one target but is what you use when Whirling Retaliation is on cooldown). Whirling Retaliation opens up Overwhelm (for a big hit) or Thrust (for a smaller hit that leaves a bleed which can then be turned into a bigger bleed with Overwhelm later). Overwhelm opens up To the King for another big hit and a nice buff to your next attacks. Same thing for blocks although the response chain is simpler. Setting up those reactive skills on your bars in a way that allows you to follow the chains easily helps a lot. Don't just scatter them all over your bars. Many solo Guardians use a two-handed weapon even though they're Red and can't block with it (as a Yellow Guardian can). They do more damage with most of their abilities that way at the expense of being able to block and use skills tied to an equipped shield. They also give up all the stats and mitigations that a shield provides. I prefer weapon/shield even when DPSing in Red but some people like the big two-hander...
I tried a few other classes but really enjoy Guardian. My dwarf is leveling using the blue line. It doesn't deal nearly as much damage, but I can't die unless I really bite off more than I can chew. I think my favorite thing is keeping up my defensive buff so that I get plenty of parries and blocks to open up more powerful damage skills and Shield Taunt. I picked up Metalsmithing and Weaponsmithing to craft weapons and armor. It's a good time.
Guardian here… Two things on yellow line: As a tank using blue line, you should also dive deep into yellow line because it gives you even more tanking and survival options (redirect etc.). This was a bit missing in your video. I also found that by using a two hander in yellow, damage output was at times even higher than in red because of the debuffs you put on the enemy while in yellow.
By rogue, he means Burglar (the original king of debuffing). The other one he mentioned was Loremaster which has many debuffs in its yellow line of talents.
Took 10 years off. Came back and picked this class up. I would glady take the deep in DPS in order ro not die, pop a potion and keep smashing. Slayer deeds are braindead with this class speccef into blue.
I'm using the blue line on my guard, level 40 with full crafted maxed gear and i slash through 5-8 mobs with ease, i feel like you don't do that much damage considering your level, not to mention you're on the red line and you have an LI.
I have a question as a new player. Which one would you recommend for solo leveling and open world content between a blue line champion and a red line guardian? The former is a tank oriented dps and the latter is a dps oriented tank so I dunno which one to choose
no need to have return to bree trait active, better to use other traits and change to that trait when you need to travel to bree, and then change it to something else again
Hi, i play Yelow Line Guardian when im playing solo or in Group stuff if there is another Tank or i dont need so much defence. The bigest diference from Red Line is that you can deal realy nice damage with your tanking gear just swaping your sword and shield for a 2H and And Belt focused on Aoe skills and damage because you have a AOE damage spread from Flash of light and the maked target (Take On Heart) will take mora damage and hit you less. The targets nearby will get spread damage from your hits . So you can grab a bunch of mobs and you will have alot of survivability , health regen and Reflect skill 25% reduced damage + 25% reflect 15 secs + "Thrill of Danger" will heal you as you get hit while active. If i go RedLine , i Need to change the Virtues, Gear , weapond just to deal damage. I Like to have alot of HP and fighr loads of Mobs so this is really great to do with this line. Try Yelow/Red if you already play Red Line and you will be suprized with how much more you can do with this line. Or Yelow/Blue for even mor survivability. Guardiab will have a revamp soon so probably this unique line will disapear :( Just grab 2 Li and trow lower traceries on them and give it a go. You can grab mobs from really big distance just by making them and keep running untill you have them all then start the fight! As long as one target is marked the damage with spread to others ;)
I'm one of the oddballs that actually use yellow guardian. I love being able to level and never worry about dieing even when pulling a full camp. I don't do endgame but I'm doing compeltionist run on everything else. To be fair, i do dip deep into red for more dps as I level.
Interesting!
Hey Renfail, recently returned to the game after 12 years and I am levelling a yellow line Guardian and doing 3 man instances with friends.
While I am only low level (32) Yellow is really pretty decent and goes over the top of red with what it can do. You have 4 AOE attacks which enables you to pull entire camps and destroy them.
The debuffs and self healing just allow you to grind out mass packs while having the self healing to outlast most bosses. You have stuns, interrupts and options for sword and shield as well as 2H Sword play.
If you want to chat about it just ping me a message.
For those of you who played WOW - Yellow line Guardian is effectively a prot paladin from WOTLK era. It is very powerful if you are facing multiple mobs.
@@marklangley1734 interesting! Thx for the info
One of the things that makes playing a Guardian fun is the reactive abilities. If you get stunned (or whatever) you use Turn the Tables and now your opponent is stunned instead! They swing at you and you parry, that opens up Whirling Retaliation (or Retaliation which does less damage and only hits one target but is what you use when Whirling Retaliation is on cooldown). Whirling Retaliation opens up Overwhelm (for a big hit) or Thrust (for a smaller hit that leaves a bleed which can then be turned into a bigger bleed with Overwhelm later). Overwhelm opens up To the King for another big hit and a nice buff to your next attacks. Same thing for blocks although the response chain is simpler.
Setting up those reactive skills on your bars in a way that allows you to follow the chains easily helps a lot. Don't just scatter them all over your bars.
Many solo Guardians use a two-handed weapon even though they're Red and can't block with it (as a Yellow Guardian can). They do more damage with most of their abilities that way at the expense of being able to block and use skills tied to an equipped shield. They also give up all the stats and mitigations that a shield provides. I prefer weapon/shield even when DPSing in Red but some people like the big two-hander...
I'm all about that shield and blocking/reacting :)
I agree with you. I tried 2H with red, and ended up going back to sword and board for these exact same reasons. 👍💪
Rolling a guard and came to this video, now it's even better, dps is impressing, love the bleeds
Glad you enjoy it!
I tried a few other classes but really enjoy Guardian. My dwarf is leveling using the blue line. It doesn't deal nearly as much damage, but I can't die unless I really bite off more than I can chew. I think my favorite thing is keeping up my defensive buff so that I get plenty of parries and blocks to open up more powerful damage skills and Shield Taunt. I picked up Metalsmithing and Weaponsmithing to craft weapons and armor. It's a good time.
Guardian here… Two things on yellow line: As a tank using blue line, you should also dive deep into yellow line because it gives you even more tanking and survival options (redirect etc.). This was a bit missing in your video. I also found that by using a two hander in yellow, damage output was at times even higher than in red because of the debuffs you put on the enemy while in yellow.
Not missing persay, just that everyone has a different opinion on ways to play =P Thanks for the infos!
@@Renfail Agreed!
Really enjoying your new lotro content.
Glad to hear it!
At 8:30 speak of the classes rogue and war master. Are those new classes in LOTRO?
By rogue, he means Burglar (the original king of debuffing). The other one he mentioned was Loremaster which has many debuffs in its yellow line of talents.
Took 10 years off. Came back and picked this class up. I would glady take the deep in DPS in order ro not die, pop a potion and keep smashing. Slayer deeds are braindead with this class speccef into blue.
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Very nice video! Do you have a playlist from the Guardian? I would be interested in the rotation you use. Can I see the rotation you use somewhere?
I do not :)
ah ok :)@@Renfail
Is a sword and shield good for the solo red line guardian? Renfail, I really enjoy your LOTRO videos. Awesome content!!
Yes it is! I ONLY use the Sword/Board on my guardian, as seen in the combat section of the video :) And thank you for the kind words :)
Yes for some reason the living from 130 to 140 felt better with a sword and shield than two handed
Ty for the content! Could you tell me where can I get this armor set?
I really can't recall
I'm using the blue line on my guard, level 40 with full crafted maxed gear and i slash through 5-8 mobs with ease, i feel like you don't do that much damage considering your level, not to mention you're on the red line and you have an LI.
Lots of factors
I have a question as a new player. Which one would you recommend for solo leveling and open world content between a blue line champion and a red line guardian? The former is a tank oriented dps and the latter is a dps oriented tank so I dunno which one to choose
It doesn't matter as all the open world content is the same; it's all solo content.
Does this still hold up in 2024?
Yep
Yes
no need to have return to bree trait active, better to use other traits and change to that trait when you need to travel to bree, and then change it to something else again
up to the player
@@Renfail well yeah ofc, but it's better to swap traits back and forth you cannot travel to Bree all the time
Hi, i play Yelow Line Guardian when im playing solo or in Group stuff if there is another Tank or i dont need so much defence.
The bigest diference from Red Line is that you can deal realy nice damage with your tanking gear just swaping your sword and shield for a 2H and And Belt focused on Aoe skills and damage because you have a AOE damage spread from Flash of light and the maked target (Take On Heart) will take mora damage and hit you less.
The targets nearby will get spread damage from your hits . So you can grab a bunch of mobs and you will have alot of survivability , health regen and Reflect skill 25% reduced damage + 25% reflect
15 secs + "Thrill of Danger" will heal you as you get hit while active.
If i go RedLine , i Need to change the Virtues, Gear , weapond just to deal damage.
I Like to have alot of HP and fighr loads of Mobs so this is really great to do with this line.
Try Yelow/Red if you already play Red Line and you will be suprized with how much more you can do with this line.
Or Yelow/Blue for even mor survivability.
Guardiab will have a revamp soon so probably this unique line will disapear :(
Just grab 2 Li and trow lower traceries on them and give it a go.
You can grab mobs from really big distance just by making them and keep running untill you have them all then start the fight! As long as one target is marked the damage with spread to others ;)
nice!