Thank you for that comment, I know the shortcut keys can be different, Apple using Command vs Windows Control and stuff, but that's about the extent of my KNOWLEDGE!
+EpicsArchive i really love the os experience and the trackpad gestures are great but they are quite expensive and many of those features have been brought to windows 10
+Dan Smith LOL. yeah, and well deserved shots at that! I do not understand MACs, and I understand their users even less. You pay a steep premium for something with a 15 year-old operating system that you have to pay for updates every two years, and that you can't game on, nor really upgrade on your own, but that looks kinda cool... no thanks.
+ABQSentinel So there is something wrong with having an OS that has been actively developed over the years, for over 15 years? Do you hate UNIX just as much? You have to pay for major upgrades on Windows as well. Also, Mac users don't particularly care about gaming, but you most certainty CAN game on OS X. The people that buy them also don't care to upgrade internal parts anyway, aside from maybe RAM. You are assuming mac users are the same as Windows users.
+ABQSentinel I do game on OS X to be honest. With Ultra graphics and high FPS. Although I'm doing it on Yosemite so it's not at its best (as 10.10 is very graphics consuming in itself), but still very good.
Couple of corrections: Support for PowerPC was added in 7.5 which, while similar in feel to the system 7 that came before, was massively different underneath. Also, the first Intel Macs used the original Core Duo, which was 32 bit. There never was a performance deficit between Apple and WIntel, until the Core lineup was released: Remember the Pentium 4 wasn't a particularly efficient chip and the G5, while insanely hot, could match Core's performance, at least in the beginning. Back then in the highest-performance versions, thermals were being kept under control using watercooling, the first and for a long time only computer to be mass-produced with such a feature. It was only when trying to shoehorn this chip into the now-defunct PowerBook that they decided the PowerPC architecture was lagging behind in efficiency, and thus was born the Intel-powered MacBook Pro. An Intel-powered iMac came out at the same time. An interesting feature Apple always had was backwards compatibility, not just between versions of Mac OS, most notably the ability to run the MacOS Classic environment on OSX, but also between architectures. A compatibility layer called Rosetta translated a PowerPC program on the fly to be able to be run on the Intel machines. For a long time there were also the universal binaries, which contained native code for both architectures. In the past a similar thing was done to run 68k programs on PowerPC.
+Nafeeur Rahman For a couple of years in the early 2000s, basically before Safari and Firefox, IE was the best browser on Mac OS (a lot of old timey Mac users will tell you). It was faster than Netscape.
+segaprophet But Apple hemorrhaged money for like a decade until they got 100's of millions from Microsoft and made all the money not from their shitty computers but a copy paste of the German MP2 with the iPod
+0M9H4X 1% of desktop market share, maybe But Linux is everywhere but in your computer : Linux runs in your TV/router/android phone/smart..., it's even in space ! (they had issues with viruses, now they run Red Hat Enterprise Linux) most web servers are running Linux, and cloud software are running nearly always on Linux.
+0M9H4X (facepalm). 0M9H4X As fast as possible=asininity that should have been kicked off his mommy's PC long ago and isn't old enough to be online. No one is here to be your therapist kid. Move on.
I really hate to be "that guy" but I was under the impression that it was never supposed to be called OS X, instead OS TEN. can anyone verify this? really like the show either way
+apachie2k Well, the Version number of OS X El Capitan for example is 10.11, Yosemite 10.10 and so on. So yes, its Mac OS Ten, X being the roman number for 10. I think its mostly for logo design purposes :P
***** Nope, it's to denote the use of NeXT Step OS, which is the underlying foundation of OS X and iOS. NeXT was the company Jobs founded after being ousted from Apple in 85. They focused mostly on the education market and made super high end workstations and an extremely solid UNIX based OS. They weren't particularly successful financially, but the tech they came up with was pretty god damn amazing. The worlds first Web server was run from a NeXT Cube for example. They were loved by scientific institutes around the world because of their UNIX underpinnings, coupled with a solid GUI. Go and look up the history of it, you'd be impressed at what it could do in the late 80's that we didn't see in Windows until the late 90's or early 00's in some cases.
3:45 : Wrong. Steve Jobs did say in the keynote when the Intel switch was announced that os X supported Intel processors since its release. It just wasn't available.
(regarding the first picture) oh yes, I remember those days in 1984. I too always had a Philippe Starck lemon squeezer placed casually close by my Apple Macintosh. It was the style at the time. :) Although he designed it in 1990, but most of us back then where still allowed to use real time machines, and not just the one in OSX. Good times were had by all. :D
I wish apple's dedicated backward compatibility support was talked about a little more; as a pc hobbiest, I was extremely surprised at how well apple seemed to pave perfect paths forward during their software and hardware advancements always allowing users and software developers to carry over with EASE, even today Microsoft doesn't make this easy at all. Any IT tech knows that Windows 10 didn't make confirming to the new software easy as many underlying dependencies for older programs were not at all made available; the OS rolled out before all of the necessary management tools were available, .net was half-functoning, etc. I was always proud of how well Apple conformed with developers, hardware manufacturers, and backword compatibility of software/hardware from previous gens while moving forward.
+0M9H4X Also, Edge is an absolute piece of trash. No addons. No hotkeys ( except the typical VERY basic and alt D works ONLY on the first launched home page) No full screen mode ( even ie8 had a fucking full screen mode and it is easily more than 9 years old now) IE11 at least has a full screen mode that is browsing perfection. I WISH chrome had IE's full screen mode.
+Vishal Shah IE isnt that bad, there arent many extentions indeed but the options menu isnt that bad. i prefer firefox but IE is underrated. people who claim its slow usually have a million toolbars since they dont know how to browse
This omitted a bit too much for my liking. For example: I think the TimeMachine function is worthy of a mention, as well as other things like iCloud. I also miss more technical details like how OSX's Quartz uses vector based graphics and GPU acceleration. Comparing Quartz to Windows XP really doesn't do it justice for how much more of an improvement it is over pixel based systems. As a software developer, I appreciate how much more advanced the design of OSX is compared to Windows and what happens on Linux. It's lacking a bit in gaming support, DX is king there, but for everything else it is miles ahead. It's the only OS designed for the 21th century, while Windows is still stuck in an improved version of CP/M and Mac OS.
+conspartaco how it is stability wise? i'm thinking of building one as apple really doesn't give a shit about power user who need a proper workstation like the old mac pro (upgradable storage and video cards, pci express slots, 8 dimms of ram, etc)
DGRWPF Honestly, it's very stable. Just get a solid motherboard and other reliable parts and you'll pretty much be problem free. If you want parts that are known to wok well, need answers to problems, or want a tutorial on how to hackintosh then go to www.tonymacx86.com. Getting your hackintosh to work, however, can be challenging (kernel panics, errors, tedious steps, etc.). I wouldn't recommend it to someone who's not experienced with computers. It's well worth it if you're up for the challenge, though.
+AL_O0 ᶜᴼᴹᴹᴬᴺᴰ ᴮᴸᴼᶜᴷ ᴬᴺᴰ ᴿᴱᴰˢᵀᴼᴺᴱ ....No, it's simply the fact that Microsoft lost a huge amount of sales when they released windows 8 and even more when they stopped windows exp support, forcing businesses to either -go with a outdated system -buy mac computers for business (more popular atm) - buy windows 8 packs. Microsoft lost such a big market for this they did a lot of work to make their OS much better, but with the reputation windows 8 gave them they didn't want to risk selling it, but gave it out for free in the idea that people will get it for free, enjoy it, then tell their friends about it and then they might buy it OR whenever they make (if they make) their next computer they will buy it. It was simply a less risky road that set up for the long term with them trying to become a cloud company.
+Mani Kamali I'm not going to argue the fact that Windows 8 was rather bad indeed, but then the clever money was always on buying alternate Windows generations anyway. Buy 95, don't buy 98, buy 98 SE, don't buy 2000, buy XP, don't buy Vista, buy 7, don't buy 8, buy 10. Especially businesses have a tendency to do it; I've certainly never seen Vista used in a business environment, and 8 sees very limited use there as well, but there are billions of business computers around the world running Windows 7.
Again, you guys forget to mention the Commodore Amiga. The AmigaOS was superior both to DOS and Apple's OS and you could buy an Amiga for a fraction of the cost of either a DOS machine or a Mac. Even the first Amiga (the 1000) had 4096 color support as well as better games.
Too hard to do research before putting out a video. I really live Linus Media Group, but sometimes you guys are so closed minded in your opinions and personal experience off your own usage of technology, that they don't bother to see how certain applications could benefit others.
+Drue-Michael Buono I've actually heard it pronounced OS X much more often than OS 10. Maybe you're right in that it should be pronounced OS 10, however many people have have been pronouncing it as OS X, and it might be the "GIF" "JIF" situation, where "JIF" was the pronounciation of the creator, but now "GIF" is equally correct. Or in the pokemon world the pokemon "Arceus". No one knows how His name is pronounced because different canon sources have pronounced his name differently. So let people pronounce it how they want, as long as the idea gets across. I personally prefer OSX because I associate that with Apple, but "OS" i associate with just "Operating System". So if I heard OS 10 I would hesitate becasue the first thought in my head would be the 10th version of some OS. OS X makes it seem more like a name like Windows. Versus OS 10 is like boring...nameless OS. But hey I understand we are caught up in our ways, but just letting you know about the other side of things.
MacOS X [X being the roman numeral for 10] Also, y'all forgot to mention that the GUI was created at Xerox PARC [Palo Alto Research Center] And previously the default browser in MacOS was Netscape, nobody at Apple's keynote was happy when they were partnering with Microsoft, especially when they announced that IE would become the default browser [up until 2004]
Mac OS releases prior to X (a.k.a. 10) were proprietary. OS-X was based based upon the mach kernel from Carnegie Mellon University which technically makes it UNIX.
I don't know how relevant this is but I'd love to see an episode about capacitors. "What is a capacitor as fast as possible", or something. I find that many of my friends don't really understand what it is or what it's useful for, despite my best efforts to explain. Keep it up Luke, you're awesome!
+LuckyGamerzlol You heard wrong. Macs were actually the best gaming systems of their time. Apple didn't like this though when trying to sell to business, so they actively discourages the development of games for them. A stupid move really, but this is the post-Jobs era (first time around, when it was run by fucking morons).
+Alex Preciado Depending on your hardware configuration, Mac OS X can run wonderfully on a PC, but it can be extremely frustrating or unusable at the same time.
Many, it's been 15 years since OSX came out. I remember when I started watching Tech TV in 2003 and OSX was really picking up steam at that point. Leo Laporte took every opportunity to talk about how great and secure it was. Man, I miss TechTV.
+Azivegu Wow I can't believe you said that! Apple has been the only company innovating technology for the past 150 years. How could anyone in their right minds denounce the genius that is every product apple has ever made. Steve Jobs was the greatest man on earth I mean you wouldn't even be able to post that ridiculous comment if Jobs hadn't invented electricity back in 1936. I swear to Lord Jobs himself that it's people like you who are destroying this world spouting your nonsensical fervor to the impressionable young people reading these comments. FOR SHAME I SAY FOR SHAME
I feel like any video you guys do relating to Apple automatically receives 600% more dislikes than your average videos. I see you Apple haters, yee game is strong but yee aesthetic is weak!
Almost everyone in the tech world calls it "OS EX" not "OS TEN", mainly because it's easier to say and literally everyone knows what ur saying, especially now that windows 10 exists.
+tpcs Xerox never sold a home computer. They sold the Xerox Star in 1981 aimed squarely at businesses. Xerox also weren't the first company to make a GUI, someone else did it in the late 60's.
+Brick Tamland - George Orwell would turn in his grave if he saw how modern media and politicians spin their words and fill them with "doubleplusgood's" and other 'newspeak', not to mention the rampant surveillance everywhere we go, both physically and online....
I'm shocked that there was only one unprofessional comment made in this video. Linus Media Group has a hard time staying objective when it comes to Apple. Proud of them for this video. Good job! :)
+Faraz Hussaini And the fact that Windows is a better choice for gaming isn't even an intrinsic quality of Windows, just that it's more popular, thus more developer support.
+Faraz Hussaini No its not. For me OSX would be useles. Since it doesnt support any of programs i need. And i am not talking about games... And I dont see how something can be better than windows. I am using windows for many years. They are blazing fast, stable, reliable. Something equal possible, but not better.
+segaprophet In terms of software they are more consol'ish. system written for specific devices, everything works straight out of a box. Can't upgrade them...
+segaprophet Not really, you see, hardware wise they just suck and software for macs.. Oh damn, I know there is a ton of it on linux, some of it doesn't even exist on windows but see, Windows is the biggest uber platform..
And here we see how the powerful mac gave away its PowerPC CPU to an x86-64, and hence losing all it's real power advantage. And this was done in order to please developers... What a shame.
+MK3424 The people that don't know that don't need to know because it wouldn't make a difference to them. The people that do know that know that that very fact makes it a better OS. Also it's UNIX/FreeBSD not linux
being a Windows user, must admit that windows is shlt. Its 2016 with win10 but still TONNES of bugs and issues that are not fixed, while Macs are just not my thing.
Good overview but I'm a little surprised there was no mention of the switch to a unix based architecture in OSX, and the early problems the switch caused until they were able to rebuild many of their native apps.
It's pronounced Oh-Ess-TEN! Not "Oh-Ess Ex". It's a play on words for being the tenth major OS, being the first Mac OS based on UNIX, as well as having roots in Steve Job's previous OS "NeXTStep".
I've been a windows user since XP and have had an active hate for apple for many years. Last week I bought a macbook pro for college because the classes I am taking prefer you to have OSX, and I am 100% blown away by the product. The OS is extremely fast and smooth and the computer is very very efficient. Not to mention the amazing build quality. ^ I honestly never in 100 years thought I would be saying this, I am still getting used to the fact that I have an apple product in the house
I remember repairing those back in the 80's. I repaired hundreds of them along with repairing hundreds of AT&T 6300 IBM Compatible computers. Back then all viruses (vast majority) were made for macintosh instead of being made for PC's.
The "Wintel" or pc-compatible shown @ 2:02 actually runs on an AMD processor lol. It's a 1982 compaq portable, I used to own one. Nevertheless, great video!
Yup, let's just sweep the BETTER and CHEAPER Apple IIGS line under the rug. Not like it was faster, had color graphics, more RAM, better audio, the same interface, and was way cheaper. Oh wait. That's right, Macintosh was a gimmick for Steve Jobs to take back control of Apple.
Great historical overview. I would, however, say that the biggest changes from Classic Mac OS to OS X was the introducing of memory protection and system wide pre-emptive multitasking. While Windows 9x did not have the best memory protection model (compared to modern systems like Linux, Win NT based versions of Windows, OS X, etc) because of the first megabyte being left unprotected and other such quirks, it was still far better than Classic Mac OS which had no memory protection whatsoever. It was not unusual for old Mac systems to completely crash due to an application crash. In addition, Classic Mac OS used a largely cooperative model for multitasking, where each application was required to voluntarily give up control over system resources so that another application could make use of such resources, and as you can imagine, badly written application would hog resources and not give time to any other tasks which made multitasking in many scenarios very bothersome. One other thing I would say is that the Aqua UI and Quartz Compositor (which I would argue is more important than Aqua, since it was base technology that made a UI like Aqua practical) are more comparable to Windows Vista, which introduced the Aero UI and DWM for compositing, as opposed to Windows XP, which still had the old stacking window manager just with the new Luna skin.
I was watching the original "Independence Day" film with a friend, and when it came to the part where Jeff Goldblum uploaded a virus from his MacBook to the alien ship causing their entire operation to stop, my friend said "That wasn't a virus, he uploaded OS X". Still my favorite Mac joke to this day.
As a former Apple PR person, I can only say: For the love of God, it's OS TEN. You know? As in Roman numeral X. Lord knows I spent way too much time correcting you tech reporters.
I always find the Mac and OSX videos interesting as I have mainly used Windows and Linux, Rarely touch a Mac, but I'm interested...
The experience in the OS is great, its really simple and hassle free, I would buy a Mac again - but my friends will berate me if I do.
Thank you for that comment, I know the shortcut keys can be different, Apple using Command vs Windows Control and stuff, but that's about the extent of my KNOWLEDGE!
+EpicsArchive PrintScreen Is Cmd+3 or something like that iirc.
+EpicsArchive i really love the os experience and the trackpad gestures are great but they are quite expensive and many of those features have been brought to windows 10
u can download the mac os theme if you interested
History of Linux as Fast as Possible
History of linus as fast as possible
+TR-8R he was born, he made a youtube channel. the end.
+Brick Tamland He made a channel and now Luke making videos fk this i ill unsubscribe!Rip linus with fast voice..
+Ognjen Galić ti si balkanac?
+Ognjen Galić zoves se isto ko ja
4:06 SHOTS FIRED
+Dan Smith LOL. yeah, and well deserved shots at that! I do not understand MACs, and I understand their users even less. You pay a steep premium for something with a 15 year-old operating system that you have to pay for updates every two years, and that you can't game on, nor really upgrade on your own, but that looks kinda cool... no thanks.
+ABQSentinel So there is something wrong with having an OS that has been actively developed over the years, for over 15 years? Do you hate UNIX just as much?
You have to pay for major upgrades on Windows as well. Also, Mac users don't particularly care about gaming, but you most certainty CAN game on OS X. The people that buy them also don't care to upgrade internal parts anyway, aside from maybe RAM.
You are assuming mac users are the same as Windows users.
+Dan Smith Looks fuckin better than any case I have ever seen
+ABQSentinel I do game on OS X to be honest. With Ultra graphics and high FPS. Although I'm doing it on Yosemite so it's not at its best (as 10.10 is very graphics consuming in itself), but still very good.
***** what games you playing?
Couple of corrections:
Support for PowerPC was added in 7.5 which, while similar in feel to the system 7 that came before, was massively different underneath. Also, the first Intel Macs used the original Core Duo, which was 32 bit. There never was a performance deficit between Apple and WIntel, until the Core lineup was released: Remember the Pentium 4 wasn't a particularly efficient chip and the G5, while insanely hot, could match Core's performance, at least in the beginning. Back then in the highest-performance versions, thermals were being kept under control using watercooling, the first and for a long time only computer to be mass-produced with such a feature. It was only when trying to shoehorn this chip into the now-defunct PowerBook that they decided the PowerPC architecture was lagging behind in efficiency, and thus was born the Intel-powered MacBook Pro. An Intel-powered iMac came out at the same time. An interesting feature Apple always had was backwards compatibility, not just between versions of Mac OS, most notably the ability to run the MacOS Classic environment on OSX, but also between architectures. A compatibility layer called Rosetta translated a PowerPC program on the fly to be able to be run on the Intel machines. For a long time there were also the universal binaries, which contained native code for both architectures. In the past a similar thing was done to run 68k programs on PowerPC.
IIRC, PowerPC support was added to 7.1.2.
Internet Explorer? thats a surprise
+Nafeeur Rahman They gave you the choice between it or Netscape. I believe both were installed but IE was the default.
+TalesOfWar IE5 was way easier to use than netscape back on OS 9
Fernde09 The funny thing is IE was better on the Mac than it was on Windows at the time lol.
+Nafeeur Rahman For a couple of years in the early 2000s, basically before Safari and Firefox, IE was the best browser on Mac OS (a lot of old timey Mac users will tell you). It was faster than Netscape.
+Nafeeur Rahman IE for Mac had relatively little to do with IE on Windows technologically speaking, it used its own rendering engine called Tasman.
Xerox invented the GUI operating system: look for 'Xerox Parc demo'
Them apple used his iPO to buy and contracted doses engineer...
+Proximity Mine The Xerox Parc demo in 1973 also had a mouse.
+MK3424 Sure. But Apple actually brought it to the market. That's significant.
+segaprophet But Apple hemorrhaged money for like a decade until they got 100's of millions from Microsoft and made all the money not from their shitty computers but a copy paste of the German MP2 with the iPod
+segaprophet saying that Microsoft made it significant because they sold more
ITS PRONOUNCED OS TEN!
+Michael Boyiadzis it is, look at every WWDC presentation.
+Michael Boyiadzis its still no excuse to say that its pronounced "O-es ex" it isnt and you dont have the power to decide that.
+Michael Boyiadzis but Apple does
+Thomas Zhang what you gon' do 'bout it? O-ES EX i do what i want bro
+Raph Vandal nothing. but thats just rude.
History of GNU/Linux as Fast as possible?
+NegiMudkip AS fast as possible. Started at 1% market share, remains at 1% market share 30 years later. LYNDA DOT COOOM!!
+0M9H4X 1% of desktop market share, maybe
But Linux is everywhere but in your computer : Linux runs in your TV/router/android phone/smart..., it's even in space ! (they had issues with viruses, now they run Red Hat Enterprise Linux)
most web servers are running Linux, and cloud software are running nearly always on Linux.
+0M9H4X (facepalm).
0M9H4X As fast as possible=asininity that should have been kicked off his mommy's PC long ago and isn't old enough to be online.
No one is here to be your therapist kid. Move on.
***** Microsoft Azure would like to have a word with you
+0M9H4X Which is ran by Linux.
I really hate to be "that guy" but I was under the impression that it was never supposed to be called OS X, instead OS TEN. can anyone verify this? really like the show either way
+apachie2k I've always heard it called OS Ten, not X
+apachie2k Yes. It's 10. It's a Roman Numeral. I have the strong feeling that Luke knows this and is saying it just to piss people off.
+apachie2k Well, the Version number of OS X El Capitan for example is 10.11, Yosemite 10.10 and so on. So yes, its Mac OS Ten, X being the roman number for 10. I think its mostly for logo design purposes :P
***** Nope, it's to denote the use of NeXT Step OS, which is the underlying foundation of OS X and iOS. NeXT was the company Jobs founded after being ousted from Apple in 85. They focused mostly on the education market and made super high end workstations and an extremely solid UNIX based OS. They weren't particularly successful financially, but the tech they came up with was pretty god damn amazing. The worlds first Web server was run from a NeXT Cube for example. They were loved by scientific institutes around the world because of their UNIX underpinnings, coupled with a solid GUI. Go and look up the history of it, you'd be impressed at what it could do in the late 80's that we didn't see in Windows until the late 90's or early 00's in some cases.
yh it was essentially because os9 was like the vista of mac os but way more buggy and glitchy
3:45 : Wrong. Steve Jobs did say in the keynote when the Intel switch was announced that os X supported Intel processors since its release. It just wasn't available.
4:03 damn Luke they have families
(regarding the first picture) oh yes, I remember those days in 1984. I too always had a Philippe Starck lemon squeezer placed casually close by my Apple Macintosh. It was the style at the time. :) Although he designed it in 1990, but most of us back then where still allowed to use real time machines, and not just the one in OSX. Good times were had by all. :D
Gooey? I've always said G-U-I as letters.
+kilro22 In the industry, most of us say gooey; though we always say C-L-I as letters.
+ABQSentinel yea true. I like saying "sly" though
+kilro22 A lot of these things are pronounced as they are written.
+kilro22 I looked through comments to upvote this comment so I didn't have to type it.
+Andrew Allman Same
I wish apple's dedicated backward compatibility support was talked about a little more; as a pc hobbiest, I was extremely surprised at how well apple seemed to pave perfect paths forward during their software and hardware advancements always allowing users and software developers to carry over with EASE, even today Microsoft doesn't make this easy at all. Any IT tech knows that Windows 10 didn't make confirming to the new software easy as many underlying dependencies for older programs were not at all made available; the OS rolled out before all of the necessary management tools were available, .net was half-functoning, etc. I was always proud of how well Apple conformed with developers, hardware manufacturers, and backword compatibility of software/hardware from previous gens while moving forward.
Internet Explorer was so great back then. Now it's horrible.
+Youssef Amoun How? IE11 and Microsoft Edge are both great
+0M9H4X No extensions, bad settings menu, don't even know how to get to the downloads menu on it etc. That's why it's horrible.
+0M9H4X Also, Edge is an absolute piece of trash.
No addons.
No hotkeys ( except the typical VERY basic and alt D works ONLY on the first launched home page)
No full screen mode ( even ie8 had a fucking full screen mode and it is easily more than 9 years old now)
IE11 at least has a full screen mode that is browsing perfection. I WISH chrome had IE's full screen mode.
+Vishal Shah IE isnt that bad, there arent many extentions indeed but the options menu isnt that bad. i prefer firefox but IE is underrated. people who claim its slow usually have a million toolbars since they dont know how to browse
+Youssef Amoun Yo , im all about that Netscape navigator
This omitted a bit too much for my liking.
For example: I think the TimeMachine function is worthy of a mention, as well as other things like iCloud.
I also miss more technical details like how OSX's Quartz uses vector based graphics and GPU acceleration. Comparing Quartz to Windows XP really doesn't do it justice for how much more of an improvement it is over pixel based systems.
As a software developer, I appreciate how much more advanced the design of OSX is compared to Windows and what happens on Linux. It's lacking a bit in gaming support, DX is king there, but for everything else it is miles ahead. It's the only OS designed for the 21th century, while Windows is still stuck in an improved version of CP/M and Mac OS.
I love my hackintosh :)
+conspartaco I should buy a HDD make dualboot and install OS X on the newly bought hDD to have a combo Hackintosh - Windows Powered PC
+conspartaco how it is stability wise? i'm thinking of building one as apple really doesn't give a shit about power user who need a proper workstation like the old mac pro (upgradable storage and video cards, pci express slots, 8 dimms of ram, etc)
DGRWPF Honestly, it's very stable. Just get a solid motherboard and other reliable parts and you'll pretty much be problem free. If you want parts that are known to wok well, need answers to problems, or want a tutorial on how to hackintosh then go to www.tonymacx86.com.
Getting your hackintosh to work, however, can be challenging (kernel panics, errors, tedious steps, etc.). I wouldn't recommend it to someone who's not experienced with computers. It's well worth it if you're up for the challenge, though.
+conspartaco has anyone been able to get iMessage/FaceTime working on a hackintosh?
Kyle Berger I know iMessage works on my hackintosh (somewhat inconsistent). Not sure about face time as I don't have a welcome to test it out with.
Now I get Windows 10...
So... Microsoft wants to copy OS X ?
no
+AL_O0 ᶜᴼᴹᴹᴬᴺᴰ ᴮᴸᴼᶜᴷ ᴬᴺᴰ ᴿᴱᴰˢᵀᴼᴺᴱ ....No, it's simply the fact that Microsoft lost a huge amount of sales when they released windows 8 and even more when they stopped windows exp support, forcing businesses to either -go with a outdated system -buy mac computers for business (more popular atm) - buy windows 8 packs. Microsoft lost such a big market for this they did a lot of work to make their OS much better, but with the reputation windows 8 gave them they didn't want to risk selling it, but gave it out for free in the idea that people will get it for free, enjoy it, then tell their friends about it and then they might buy it OR whenever they make (if they make) their next computer they will buy it. It was simply a less risky road that set up for the long term with them trying to become a cloud company.
+Mani Kamali I'm not going to argue the fact that Windows 8 was rather bad indeed, but then the clever money was always on buying alternate Windows generations anyway. Buy 95, don't buy 98, buy 98 SE, don't buy 2000, buy XP, don't buy Vista, buy 7, don't buy 8, buy 10. Especially businesses have a tendency to do it; I've certainly never seen Vista used in a business environment, and 8 sees very limited use there as well, but there are billions of business computers around the world running Windows 7.
Somethings up with Luke's neck, I just don't know what.
glad I'm not the only one
+wow4ever1212 what is it?
I'm pretty sure you can learn about that on lynda.com :D
+LyturFX cringe
whats wrong with his neck?
Again, you guys forget to mention the Commodore Amiga. The AmigaOS was superior both to DOS and Apple's OS and you could buy an Amiga for a fraction of the cost of either a DOS machine or a Mac. Even the first Amiga (the 1000) had 4096 color support as well as better games.
In 1984, Amiga's Workbench was in colour, and the Amiga were pre-emptive multitasking computers, which IBM-PC and Mac were not until several years...
It's pronounced OS 10 Luke, not X. It's a roman numeral
+eXoguti097 Both aren't right. People use both, incorrectly. It's ten. It's always been ten, it always will be ten. It's ten.
Too hard to do research before putting out a video. I really live Linus Media Group, but sometimes you guys are so closed minded in your opinions and personal experience off your own usage of technology, that they don't bother to see how certain applications could benefit others.
eXoguti097 It's just annoying. It's understandable if you've only ever seen it in text of course.
*****
Mother fu... oh well, principle is the same.
+Drue-Michael Buono I've actually heard it pronounced OS X much more often than OS 10. Maybe you're right in that it should be pronounced OS 10, however many people have have been pronouncing it as OS X, and it might be the "GIF" "JIF" situation, where "JIF" was the pronounciation of the creator, but now "GIF" is equally correct. Or in the pokemon world the pokemon "Arceus". No one knows how His name is pronounced because different canon sources have pronounced his name differently. So let people pronounce it how they want, as long as the idea gets across. I personally prefer OSX because I associate that with Apple, but "OS" i associate with just "Operating System". So if I heard OS 10 I would hesitate becasue the first thought in my head would be the 10th version of some OS. OS X makes it seem more like a name like Windows. Versus OS 10 is like boring...nameless OS. But hey I understand we are caught up in our ways, but just letting you know about the other side of things.
MacOS X [X being the roman numeral for 10]
Also, y'all forgot to mention that the GUI was created at Xerox PARC [Palo Alto Research Center]
And previously the default browser in MacOS was Netscape, nobody at Apple's keynote was happy when they were partnering with Microsoft, especially when they announced that IE would become the default browser [up until 2004]
Lol i had no idea people called it a "gooey". HA
Mac OS releases prior to X (a.k.a. 10) were proprietary. OS-X was based based upon the mach kernel from Carnegie Mellon University which technically makes it UNIX.
am i the only one who gets irrationally pissed off whenever someone says Gooey and not G-U-I?
not the only one
In the minority.
That’s me
Youre not alone
i am
I don't know how relevant this is but I'd love to see an episode about capacitors. "What is a capacitor as fast as possible", or something. I find that many of my friends don't really understand what it is or what it's useful for, despite my best efforts to explain. Keep it up Luke, you're awesome!
That request wasn't relevant at all to this channel, you should recommend this instead: ruclips.net/video/rbCXKhhzBN0/видео.html
Ive heard that a lot of businesses brought the first macs so people couldn't play games in the workplace
+LuckyGamerzlol You heard wrong. Macs were actually the best gaming systems of their time. Apple didn't like this though when trying to sell to business, so they actively discourages the development of games for them. A stupid move really, but this is the post-Jobs era (first time around, when it was run by fucking morons).
I love to see how there's not much hate here. People use what they like, no point in arguing about it.
Please do how cellphone frequency and bands work as fast as possible. Like so they can see it
4:00 - best Macintosh joke I have ever heard!
Windows Vista Turns 9 Today, and also its my b'day, so cringy lol
Have a Nice day. :)
***** Thanks mate :)
+cjdacka Oh my god you share a birthday with a particular OS? Oh my god how embarassing, you should change birthdays! Le cringe extreme
Angus Helldin When it's Vista, it's cringe haha
+cjdacka i think i'm the only one around here who actually liked Vista! :D
I wrote my highschool research paper on the history of Apple operating systems. Pretty cool to see it boiled down to 5 minutes
Few years ago i installed OS X to my gaming pc, and it has been my primary OS every since. Windows is just for gaming.
I agree about windows but OS X is just a fucked up linux, don't waste your money on it.
@@sogerc1 macOS doesn’t appear to be just a Linux distro
I think they used FreeBSD for OS X and on
@@FireFoxDestroyer well you know I just ment linux as a collective name, if you write stuff like GNU, people don't know what it means.
I wish my windows PC worked with OSX.....
Please, get your brain check, i think you are being a little insane saying that.
El Gamer No tan cutre like hackintosh..
+Alex Preciado www.tonymacx86.com/
+Alex Preciado Depending on your hardware configuration, Mac OS X can run wonderfully on a PC, but it can be extremely frustrating or unusable at the same time.
+Duffel Bag Full of Tech I got OSX 10.10.3 installed on my system but couldn't get Ethernet or nvidia gtx 960 graphics to work.
I heard apple was thinking about removing the second mouse button again
+Aj Koorstra No you didn't
+Aj Koorstra Ahh! We're stuck in a time loop! We're going backwards!
+Aj Koorstra they still use mouse buttons?
i thought steve jobs wanted it to be controlled and charged by your mindpowers
No one has developed the technology for them to steal it yet
+RNorthex HA! WHO NEEDS A STYLUS RIGHT GUYS?
Many, it's been 15 years since OSX came out. I remember when I started watching Tech TV in 2003 and OSX was really picking up steam at that point. Leo Laporte took every opportunity to talk about how great and secure it was. Man, I miss TechTV.
whatever apple does, even find a cure for cancer, the trash bin will always stay.
No need for m8 m9
+Azivegu Wow I can't believe you said that! Apple has been the only company innovating technology for the past 150 years. How could anyone in their right minds denounce the genius that is every product apple has ever made. Steve Jobs was the greatest man on earth I mean you wouldn't even be able to post that ridiculous comment if Jobs hadn't invented electricity back in 1936. I swear to Lord Jobs himself that it's people like you who are destroying this world spouting your nonsensical fervor to the impressionable young people reading these comments. FOR SHAME I SAY FOR SHAME
killerkarrit2
sure... xD
+killerkarrit2 sure, Apple also invented the car
+Valentin Meneses No, they invented Earth.
IMO, you shouldn't omit speaking about NeXT when talking about OS X. Such an important (and exciting) detail.
I feel like any video you guys do relating to Apple automatically receives 600% more dislikes than your average videos. I see you Apple haters, yee game is strong but yee aesthetic is weak!
Would have been nice to compare the features Mac OS introduced over time with their competition at the time.
Once you go Mac you never go back.
+dutchhypercraft1 I do too but only because I have too for work or school
Macs suck ass
+Valentin Meneses I'd say your ignorant. But your really just a dumbass
+Ian Thompson I just stated the truth, there's no reason to be mad about it
+Valentin Meneses if you think that's the truth then what I said stands.
4:00 Because content creators only buy macs for it's "sleek exterior design"
OS X is pronounced "OS ten".
Who the hell cares
He does lmao
He's a PC guy not a Mac person
Almost everyone in the tech world calls it "OS EX" not "OS TEN", mainly because it's easier to say and literally everyone knows what ur saying, especially now that windows 10 exists.
The reason that OSX was UNIX bases was that OS9 was so awful and buggy that they had to start from scratch
Apple also DID NOT pioneer the home PC gui. AGAIN....both companies got their ideas ...FROM XEROX.. . you're welcome.
+tpcs Xerox never sold a home computer. They sold the Xerox Star in 1981 aimed squarely at businesses. Xerox also weren't the first company to make a GUI, someone else did it in the late 60's.
So saucy with the Mac Pro!
1984 was worse than 1984
+Brick Tamland - George Orwell would turn in his grave if he saw how modern media and politicians spin their words and fill them with "doubleplusgood's" and other 'newspeak', not to mention the rampant surveillance everywhere we go, both physically and online....
+Brick Tamland
2016 makes 1984 look good.
+Deathlok67 So I guess you have a VCR in your home that records everything you do under the threat of death? Do tell
I'm shocked that there was only one unprofessional comment made in this video. Linus Media Group has a hard time staying objective when it comes to Apple. Proud of them for this video. Good job! :)
OSX is better than Windows for everything except gaming, and this is coming from someone with a gaming PC.
+Faraz Hussaini And the fact that Windows is a better choice for gaming isn't even an intrinsic quality of Windows, just that it's more popular, thus more developer support.
+Faraz Hussaini No its not. For me OSX would be useles. Since it doesnt support any of programs i need. And i am not talking about games...
And I dont see how something can be better than windows. I am using windows for many years. They are blazing fast, stable, reliable. Something equal possible, but not better.
Valtra103 What programs?
+segaprophet WinISD, AjDesigner and other stuff related to designing speakers...
And I like gaming too. So OSX is useless for me...
I lay great games on my Mac, doses who doesn't run just playing on my console, it's better any way...
The original MacOS is insane. Even today's iMac 5K is 2 grand.
Isn't it pronoumced as GEE YOU EYE and not GEWY
Nah, "Gooey" is also correct.
PhantomDarknessDashy oh sorry for my bad english i guess?
It doesn't sound right using gee you eye for me. That sounds like gui
Hey you didn't mention that the Latest versions of macOS were based on NextStep which was a Unix-Like Operating System.
Macs are like consoles, just PC'ier
+Bartosz Olszewski Not really, when it comes to software and the OS.
+segaprophet In terms of software they are more consol'ish. system written for specific devices, everything works straight out of a box. Can't upgrade them...
+Bartosz Olszewski This is an apples to oranges comparison. They can't realistically be compared.
+CoWinkKeyDinkInc Heh, apples.
+segaprophet Not really, you see, hardware wise they just suck and software for macs.. Oh damn, I know there is a ton of it on linux, some of it doesn't even exist on windows but see, Windows is the biggest uber platform..
And here we see how the powerful mac gave away its PowerPC CPU to an x86-64, and hence losing all it's real power advantage.
And this was done in order to please developers...
What a shame.
windows>mac
+psp785 And most people don't even know that now mac runs on a Linux kernel...
+MK3424 source?
+MK3424 But it doesn't run on Linux kernel. It runs XNU kernel that is based on Mach and BSD kernels.
+MK3424 The people that don't know that don't need to know because it wouldn't make a difference to them. The people that do know that know that that very fact makes it a better OS.
Also it's UNIX/FreeBSD not linux
being a Windows user, must admit that windows is shlt. Its 2016 with win10 but still TONNES of bugs and issues that are not fixed, while Macs are just not my thing.
I just finished installing OSX El Capitan on my PC along with Windows 10 and it's great.
Here comes the downvotes from the Apple haters.
HISTORY OF LINUSTECHTIPS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE PLS
Mac>PC
Mac=Pc
(Combo hackintosh is much powerfull than a mono os device)
Dual os masterrace!!!
+Mongocom Triple OS master race Here, The not so Holy Trinity of Windows Mac and Linux.
+killerkarrit2 Holy shit you rule the universe
BUT my pc got also ios and android on it sooooooo
PC masterrace, who cares wich os
+ChaosBelow Mac is a PC. Even though today PC refers to Windows computers it actually stands for Personal Computer.
oh hell nah
The smirk with the Mac Pro burn, 10/10.
OS X? More like homOSeX
So what's the problem? Homosexual cannot have he's very own so?
Lucas Caliel Borges Sousa Yes he can have his own and it's OS X
+SynapseTSS∞ Ah, I remember what it was like being 12.
+SynapseTSS∞ you goddamn right and y user my self
TalesOfWar I remember whe- Oh wait I was never an Apple fan.
"Lynda.com" Oh hi, Jacksfilms! You grew into a new body and new voice!
Good overview but I'm a little surprised there was no mention of the switch to a unix based architecture in OSX, and the early problems the switch caused until they were able to rebuild many of their native apps.
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It's pronounced Oh-Ess-TEN! Not "Oh-Ess Ex". It's a play on words for being the tenth major OS, being the first Mac OS based on UNIX, as well as having roots in Steve Job's previous OS "NeXTStep".
4:05 gottteeeem, we would be such great friends luke.
I've been a windows user since XP and have had an active hate for apple for many years. Last week I bought a macbook pro for college because the classes I am taking prefer you to have OSX, and I am 100% blown away by the product. The OS is extremely fast and smooth and the computer is very very efficient. Not to mention the amazing build quality.
^ I honestly never in 100 years thought I would be saying this, I am still getting used to the fact that I have an apple product in the house
If you have an Intel Mac, you can dual boot Windows and macOS with the Bootcamp Assistant.
Although the performance isn’t optimal.
Such a half-hearted effort at explaining the Mac OS.
Any explanation on why the new "big feline" release is called El capitan ?
history of linus as fast as possible
I remember repairing those back in the 80's. I repaired hundreds of them along with repairing hundreds of AT&T 6300 IBM Compatible computers. Back then all viruses (vast majority) were made for macintosh instead of being made for PC's.
ITS PRONOUNCED OS 10! *hits head against desk*
The "Wintel" or pc-compatible shown @ 2:02 actually runs on an AMD processor lol. It's a 1982 compaq portable, I used to own one.
Nevertheless, great video!
Yup, let's just sweep the BETTER and CHEAPER Apple IIGS line under the rug. Not like it was faster, had color graphics, more RAM, better audio, the same interface, and was way cheaper.
Oh wait. That's right, Macintosh was a gimmick for Steve Jobs to take back control of Apple.
Great historical overview. I would, however, say that the biggest changes from Classic Mac OS to OS X was the introducing of memory protection and system wide pre-emptive multitasking. While Windows 9x did not have the best memory protection model (compared to modern systems like Linux, Win NT based versions of Windows, OS X, etc) because of the first megabyte being left unprotected and other such quirks, it was still far better than Classic Mac OS which had no memory protection whatsoever. It was not unusual for old Mac systems to completely crash due to an application crash. In addition, Classic Mac OS used a largely cooperative model for multitasking, where each application was required to voluntarily give up control over system resources so that another application could make use of such resources, and as you can imagine, badly written application would hog resources and not give time to any other tasks which made multitasking in many scenarios very bothersome.
One other thing I would say is that the Aqua UI and Quartz Compositor (which I would argue is more important than Aqua, since it was base technology that made a UI like Aqua practical) are more comparable to Windows Vista, which introduced the Aero UI and DWM for compositing, as opposed to Windows XP, which still had the old stacking window manager just with the new Luna skin.
X is a Roman numeral for 10. That's why Apple
Calls it “OS (ten)” not “ex”
Ah, yes. the 80s and 90s. When Macintosh was popular
i always tought the x of osx meant ''whatever number'' as in os1, os2, os3 and os4 ect
1:27 Uhm, what the fuck no? Xerox pioneered the GUI. Just like the mouse. That's how far Apple getting credit for shit they didn't do goes.
You forgot to mention that Apple got their GUI from a copier company: Xerox.
It's pronounced as OS Ten, and some of the first Intel-based Macs are actually 32-bit only afaik.
History of Linus as fast as possible please
I was watching the original "Independence Day" film with a friend, and when it came to the part where Jeff Goldblum uploaded a virus from his MacBook to the alien ship causing their entire operation to stop, my friend said "That wasn't a virus, he uploaded OS X". Still my favorite Mac joke to this day.
I would like to see a a video about ECC memory, how it works and the diferent variants avaliable (UDIMMs and RIMMs I think, and all that stuff)
wasn't Lisa more popular and way more sold than the Macintosh? or am I thinking of the apple ii
Good video. Nice endingg about the waste basket.
MXM (Laptop Video Cards) as fast as possible? Or even the history of it as fast as possible because I'm super interested in MXM at the moment.
wowowow wait I'm 88% sure System 7 had a colored GUI. Also it wasn't pronounced oh es ex but Oh Es Ten.
Luke made a common mistake regarding OS X. X stands for 10, a roman numeral and not a letter X. So X should be pronounced as 10.
History of Linus as fast as possible :D
It's crazy how far we've come
It's not a trash can! It is mighty fine piece of engineering... I am excited for the msi version.
Luke, it's OS TEN.
TEN TEN TEN TEN TEN!
Could you do an Intel Chipsets video explaining the differences between Z170, H170 & H110 for example
As a former Apple PR person, I can only say: For the love of God, it's OS TEN. You know? As in Roman numeral X. Lord knows I spent way too much time correcting you tech reporters.
My mum scrunched up paper and chucked it at the out take of my Mac Pro
I missed Luke... where is he now ?
Says Tiger
Shows a picture of a snow leopard
😂😂😂
You should make a video on how program compatibility works.
Stop yelling at me, Luke.
Luke.
Stahp.
Perhaps you could do a fallout style build log inside the "new" mac pro case?
Or other "trash cans". 😉