Go back and watch Klopp’s first LfC press conference. Listen to his words, carefully, note the commitments he makes. He’s delivered on every single commitment and then some. His words are prophetic, the guy is truly a fkn genius!
Once again, a boss way to spend an hour on a Tuesday night, listening to Copey and Robbo talking sense about my favourite subject! Keep it up lads up the reds!
This season cud be a sports movie film script so far ! The lads had to go though a kidnapping,injuries, bereavement 😢, spurs disallowed goal, red cards,big players left and now our legendary leader told us half way through the season he is leaving us.
He's an empty vesselled virtue signalling hypocrite but he steal led us to an insane time on the pitch and deserves to be remembered as such. Hell have to deal with the rest.
Great show lads! I’d be happy with Alonso or Amorim. Between jobs at the moment, I’ll donate when I can afford it. *As Cope says about what the club has achieved, for me the near quadruple season, if you think of football as pure entertainment, to give us something to look forward to each match of the season from day one to the last was an incredible achievement. Yes, it ended with heartbreak but I hope one day someone makes a documentary of that side. They gave their all and I’d love those players to know how much we appreciated them.
So right Robbo, Klopp made us super competetive, made Anfield a real Fortress and the Football has been exciting to watch. All we can ask for really. On top of that he has left a great squad for whoever takes over, Alonso hopefully.
Another great show lads…..I’ve been trawling through all the Patreon shows and they’re all just as good….keep it up and if you’re watching this and haven’t subscribed yet I can wholeheartedly recommend it 👏👏👏
I've said it before, but I'm really grateful you two got this going. You were both my favorites on TAW, so the moon did a little dance and here we are. Cheers.
I have the feeling that Alonso could be Paisley after Shankly ( Klopp)…. Different type, different style of play but just because of that, hugely successful. I think we will be fine. There is a quadruple to be won lads! Up the Reds
Great stuff as usual lads! 2 adults discussing the team we all love with reasoned arguments and common sense. It will never catch on (unfortunately) but so refreshing in a world of clueless blerts. Thanks a lot
You can be a fan, but you can't be a *football* fan if you "don't rate" CuJo. Absolutely insane that anyone can still have that opinion. (( ps he's been great for years ))
Love the show lads!! And don't change because if I wanted talk radio knobheads I would go there. You are both the furthest thing from that. Absolutely brilliant!!
I’ve come to the conclusion that, although it seems to be the main driving force behind producing this podcast, social media is ruining our lives. I think you and most people would be happier without it.
I come off general social media - Facebook and all that crap - about 10 years ago. I kept a "football twitter" account until about 2 years ago when I deleted it, shame in a way as it was decent for genuine football news - but it was plagued by idiots, serotonin Junkies playing to the gallery for a few cheap likes. Same negative stuff repeated constantly. You'll miss it for a bit but eventually you'll almost forget the like of wilko, John o sullivan etc and all them blerts ever existed
FSG may be better than G&H, but that doesn't mean they've been, or are 'great' custodians of LFC. That's not to say that they haven't done some things which have benefited the club, but they are doing those things because it is benefiting them financially, including using the club as collateral when investing in other, more important (to FSG) sport related investments. Just look at the Red Mancs and the Glazers. They've won a few more trophies under them than we have under FSG, including four more league titles. Despite that, ask Man Utd fans what they think of the Glazers and they'll almost all tell you that they hate them and want them gone. Look at what FSG did in terms of the pandemic and the furlough scheme. Then you have the issues of ticket prices and trying to trademark the word "Liverpool", two things they were forced to backtrack on, largely as a result of pressure put on them by the fans. Something that many fans also do not know is that loans were taken out to develop Anfield and the training ground, but not only were loans taken out, but they were taken out via a subsidiary of FSG. That begs the question of who exactly is benefiting from the interest payments? Between 2012-201 Liverpool rank 11th in the PL in terms of owner net investment, which is bad enough, but if you take the last five years, FSG's net investment ranks 19th. If you polled a large number of Liverpool fans who they think is more responsible for Liverpool's recent success out of FSG or Klopp, I guarantee you that the vast majority will say Klopp. You may want to give FSG kudos for hiring Klopp, but given their knowledge of football Vs their knowledge of American sports, I think it's very likely that the reason they hired Klopp is because he had shown he could be successful whilst adhering to a strict budget, not because they have a great awareness of what makes a great manager, or what even makes 'a Liverpool manager'. In regards to expressing a positive view of FSG, whilst that is your prerogative, and you may well be sincere in your views, let's not pretend that 'the access media' isn't a thing, or that certain individuals or organisations aren't adversed to a bit of shilling. Just look at the mass media's treatment of Manchester City both before and after these 115 charges became a thing. They effectively never mention how they've gone from a mid table club to a juggernaut, never mind these 115 charges. Why? It's because they want access to the club, the players and the manager, something that will likely be revoked if they say something that raises the ire of those involved with Man City. Such things don't require the say so from the likes of Masour, or in Liverpool's case John Henry. All it takes is for someone in a senior position to take a stance on a particular issue be it revoking an individual's or organisation's access to the club, or actually giving them access or some other perks if they happen to say the right things about the club.
Do love the chat around Alonso at the end. Obviously, there is plenty of time between now and the end of the season. But think a chat around the candidates to take over from Klopp could be it's own show down the line
Houllier, Benitez, Rodgers and Klopp all referred to "character" regularly in interviews. The best Liverpool sides have all had character and those who have been the hardest to endure have lacked it. Anyone who has played the game at any reasonable level knows it is an important facet of success in football.
I was in the ground Saturday and I thought the atmosphere was decent and the crowd was quite up for it. I didn’t check the city score beforehand and it was loud enough at kick off I had to check to see if I was missing something. First half hour killed it for a bit and the equaliser the same but essentially nothing to see here. All fine
The fact they never let the 115 charges go is the main reason I love this pod but Copey's argument for Lijnders on a previous show was right up there. Watched the Leverkusen game and would be happy with Alonso but still Lijnders for me.
Well done lads, the Klopp carracter born under Shankly is and always has been at the centre of this club and the vast majority of the fan base. Keep reminding the others!
When a team wins a title usually a player steps up out of nowhere I thought Elliot was going to shine in January which never happened still not ruling him out doing watch Sterling did in the second half of the13/14 season.
I'm all in for Xabi but my concern is, what happens if we approach him and he say's he wants one more year at Leverkusen - CL footy with them or maybe just family reasons, uprooting again etc. What do we do then? Great show - fuck the dissenters! #YNWA
The criticism of Jones was and is ridiculous, he has always shown himself to be adaptable and very capable. He has shown himself able to directly follow instructions from the manager - filling in multiple positions, I love that "Swiss Army Knife" analogy, Robbo - and I think that's his biggest asset. He obviously always has had outstanding talent. Elliott has been hugely impactful from the bench this season. I'd personally like to see him take this into starting appearances. Too often he's ineffectual when he starts for me. He is still young, though, as you say.
We have to look after ourselves and our own performances and just get the blinkers on, i think if we take 36 points from last 14 games, which means we can maybe afford to lose 2 and beat city at home along the way we get 90 points and i think that will just be enough to give jurgen that well deserved 2nd title, up the reds.
Great show lads. It has to be Alonso now. Any thoughts on Liverpool issuing all digital tickets for the cup final? I think it’s the wrong decision (i.e. what happens if people have issues outside of the ground on the day etc), especially when Chelsea have issued paper tickets for their fans. “He wears body warmers” made me laugh that. Up the TLC!!
A bit random, but when Paul mentioned how other clubs would bite your hand off to have 'only' won one league title under Kloop, I was reminded of being at a conference looking into ways of how to tackle actual poverty and the just as importantly, perception of poverty (as it is the latter that is the real fucker) and a chap from the CAB got up and did a presentation on how as a society we are conditioned to avoid even thinking about the question of how much is enough, in all areas of our lives. I agree with both of you that character is needed to achieve potential, as talent can often be wasted and I think learning to put the issues we face in perspective helps develop character. We might end up winning fuck all this season and I will be gutted we do (especially if it is by the point PGMOL deducted from us against Spuds - no I won't let it go either) but regardless of what might happen Jurgen Klopp has already done enough to be a Liverpool legend now. Bit of random bollocks for you both there. Love what you do and will enjoy listening for as long as you can be arsed to do it. YNWA
Brilliant show as always lads. Love listening to you both, & appreciate ALL you do. Loved listening to your passion Robbo over Xabi, I thought it was only me 😀😀 who felt that way. When you think about it, this season is a movie in the making, what’s happened to the team (Tottenham Hotspur😡) players (kidnapping) players (death) and right out of the blue, are BOSS announced ‘ I’m leaving at the end of the season’ 😔 and we’re top of the league 😄😄. We are Brilliant. Klopp leaving blew me away, but I keep thinking of Shanks 😢 & then Paisley arrived… 👍🏽 I’ll say no more. Im just praying 🙏🏽 it’s Xabi. Keep up the Great work & thanks. YNWA ❤❤❤
I never used to rate jones when he first got in the team……thought he slowed play down a lot & gave the ball away more than not but wow the lad class his pass n move on the edge of the box even beating his man getting dangerous crosses in topped off now with goals great player even go as far to say he could be as good as Ronnie whelan if he keeps this improvement up
Lads, I tend to agree with everything you say. Klopp, brilliant. FSG, brilliant. Some people are never happy no matter how successful we are. Keep up the good work. 👍
Some good points made, I don't think fsg are the worst owners, I understand both sides of the arguments. In a perfect world I would want owner's, who have genuine love for football, I give fsg credit for bringing LFC into 21st century interms of commercially. I don't think this model can be maintained to keep us at the top, especially if city get away with the charges. KLOPP is the best manager for this fsg model, I am disappointed in the oweners that they have not come out and said anything personally about klopp leaving, especially how he has worked with FSG and respected that we cant always sign player's that we want but still succeeded.
@@thelatechallengepodcast no I just think they should have said something, personally Ik probably if announcement was made later we would have a message straight away or something, from FSG
Mate we still have games to win and history to be made, now is not the time for directors to be making statements. Jurgen and the players don't need the distractions
Such a good topic, have players got the character for Liverpool? Loads have come and thought they’ve made it - Kewell, Balotelli, Cole, Diouf whilst some have had a point to prove - Robertson, Gary Mac, Mo and Coutinho. Give me a player with a point to prove and a chip on his shoulder any day of the week. Just look at Ian Rush - went to Paisleys office, our most successful manager ever, and demanded to know why he wasn’t playing instead of sitting in the reserves picking up his wages and we all know what happened next.
FSG have done an incredible job, some will never give them credit and that’s tough shit on them, imagine being that thick 🤦🏼♂️ Great context from Copey, The Stadium is a huge point, we were going right the other way, imagine looking at Anfield now as a housing project but instead we’ve kept our home and it’s growing bigger and bigger, all done sustainably whilst Jürgen won the major trophies as we’ve signed apple unreal players, brought in academy players. We’ve amazing training facilities for the Men’s and Women’s teams. We’ve been living a golden era for Liverpool FC. Keep it Lit 🔥 lads, love listening to your channel.
I know we're acting like Alonso saved this bad side but they've been top 6 in like 5 of the last 6 seasons, he didn't come into a bad squad. He's definitely doing a great job but I feel like the whole "took a side who were near bottom" tries to spin things in a weird way. They're a pretty consistent CL/EL team.
As good as FSG have been, I can’t help but think they wasted a golden opportunity to truly capitalise on Klopps reign. Also what happened to the investment.. seems that went sour now all of a sudden Klopp is losing energy…
Come on lads; a non-fsg outer here but its fairly obvious you dont bite the hand that feeds you in life. You two are still a developing podcast but its in the best interest of the wrap/redmen etc to keep the club sweet. I dont believe its directly a monetary thing, or even an "agreement" per se but - like every other job in the world - you understand sometimes how to box a bit clever to help you along
@thelatechallengepodcast Gareth/ Paul; Long time viewer and fan so please don't take it personally - you two (and Craig btw) were the best thing on the wrap - I don't in anyway think it was discussed but, hypotheticaly imagine you had an "anti fsg" show to upload or article to publish when you got a club email offering you access all areas on the pre season tour and some big interviews. If you can honestly say you wouldn't even *consider* shelving the piece, knowing this could make or break your show and potentially turn it a full time occupation, then you're a far better person than me and fair play to you. Also, I don't for one minute think its John Henry per se but of course he'll have underlings doing there best to make sure fsg get the best press possible in whatever way that is.
Actually lfc lost to arsenal so it was a problem. Man city and the 115 charges has created a mad situation where you need to be near perfect to win the league.
Xabi does also have a buy out clause for us. Real or Bayern. It's interesting. The only problem I see is Klopp's shoes are really big to fill ! C'MON XABI !!!! Up you lads. UP THE FUCKING REDS!
To play devils advocate for the tinfoil brigade. It obviously wouldn’t be John Henry that would veto any access. It would be a PR exec or head of the marketing team who would research and investigate any independent or 3rd party media outlets to vet what they’ve said in the past along with any nefarious associations and/or controversies. Which is very common practice for organisations as big as LFC and FSG. I feel you’re straw manning the argument here lads.
No mate, you are. Because no one from LFC, PR exec, head of marketing, press or otherwise stood in the way of, attempted to control or anything else. How would that work exactly? No one ever told me what to say or write and I did exactly as I pleased. Same applies to everyone else.
@@garethroberts6075 that’s fair enough. I’m not insinuating that they attempted to influence you in to saying whatever you pleased. But it IS an almost certainty that they would have vetted you and/or whatever media outlet you were working for at the time to ensure they weren’t giving legitimacy or ‘access’ to something or someone they wouldn’t desire to be associated with. Especially when it comes to smaller independent outlets. At one point is that considered by the smaller outlets? Is it naive to think on some level it does influence the stories and opinions that are ran with? At least on an editorial level. I’m asking out of ignorance, mainly.
5th wealthiest club in world football, club worth 10 x what they paid for it, 11th highest net spend in the prem akin to Wolves, kin great........Proper delusional 😂😂😂
@@thelatechallengepodcast wages 😂😂😂 Were Wolves raking in £100m a season from CL football??? Are Wolves a European giant with a worldwide fanbase??? Try again....... 😘
“NO YOU LET IT GO” 🤣
I can't and I don't think I ever will
I can't and I don't think I ever will
Go back and watch Klopp’s first LfC press conference. Listen to his words, carefully, note the commitments he makes. He’s delivered on every single commitment and then some. His words are prophetic, the guy is truly a fkn genius!
Once again, a boss way to spend an hour on a Tuesday night, listening to Copey and Robbo talking sense about my favourite subject! Keep it up lads up the reds!
Popping onto patreon now. Lovely stuff lads
Nice one mate
Well in again lads. Cracking show as usual 🍺
This season cud be a sports movie film script so far ! The lads had to go though a kidnapping,injuries, bereavement 😢, spurs disallowed goal, red cards,big players left and now our legendary leader told us half way through the season he is leaving us.
If you made that movie, people wouldn't believe it, too far fetched
Yep, your statement about a pal saying you should have more subs and views is spot on. You pair are proper bacon flavoured Wheat Crunchies ace. YNWA
Shout that. Had them with my butties this week.
Hendo always a legend in my eyes, fuck all that other noise it's what he did on the pitch
He's an empty vesselled virtue signalling hypocrite but he steal led us to an insane time on the pitch and deserves to be remembered as such. Hell have to deal with the rest.
Yessss "no you let it go!" ❤❤❤
Excellent debate as always lads ,quality listen
Love this pod, by far the best pod that discusses the reds
Love the show lads, bout time we had some common sense talked regarding the reds. Keep up the good work.
Gonna take a wild punt on Goldbridge being the screaming blert they were referring to...😆
Goldbridge is the og clown but there are loads of them now lol
Goldbridge loves a 'crisis' video
Great show as always lads ‘no you let it go’ 😂😂😂
Great show lads! I’d be happy with Alonso or Amorim. Between jobs at the moment, I’ll donate when I can afford it. *As Cope says about what the club has achieved, for me the near quadruple season, if you think of football as pure entertainment, to give us something to look forward to each match of the season from day one to the last was an incredible achievement. Yes, it ended with heartbreak but I hope one day someone makes a documentary of that side. They gave their all and I’d love those players to know how much we appreciated them.
2014 was the definition of going too early emotionally, cost us in the end
Thought atmosphere was sound in The Kop for Burnley ! Couple of new songs flying about too! Went off for Nunez goal
So right Robbo, Klopp made us super competetive, made Anfield a real Fortress and the Football has been exciting to watch. All we can ask for really. On top of that he has left a great squad for whoever takes over, Alonso hopefully.
The smile on Cope's face whilst Robbo is reminiscing about Carra's character. Love it!
Players back in the squad this week:
+Allison
+Gomez
+Bradley
+Konate
+Salah
+pancakes
+Bajcetic (not yet but back training)
come on lads 💪💪💪
Another great show lads…..I’ve been trawling through all the Patreon shows and they’re all just as good….keep it up and if you’re watching this and haven’t subscribed yet I can wholeheartedly recommend it 👏👏👏
I've said it before, but I'm really grateful you two got this going. You were both my favorites on TAW, so the moon did a little dance and here we are. Cheers.
Keeping it coversational lads Making content I can agree or disagree with and still enjoy the interaction 👍
Grown men that have “FSG OUT” in their bios will never fail to make me laugh
Great show yet again lads , you guys make my week YNWA
It looks like Robbo is talking to a kid 😂. Looks much taller than Copey here in new studio
I have the feeling that Alonso could be Paisley after Shankly ( Klopp)…. Different type, different style of play but just because of that, hugely successful.
I think we will be fine.
There is a quadruple to be won lads!
Up the Reds
Thought that myself, he might even take us to another level?!
Great stuff as usual lads! 2 adults discussing the team we all love with reasoned arguments and common sense. It will never catch on (unfortunately) but so refreshing in a world of clueless blerts. Thanks a lot
You can be a fan, but you can't be a *football* fan if you "don't rate" CuJo. Absolutely insane that anyone can still have that opinion. (( ps he's been great for years ))
Great knowledge lads great show keep it up.
Love the show lads!! And don't change because if I wanted talk radio knobheads I would go there. You are both the furthest thing from that. Absolutely brilliant!!
I’ve come to the conclusion that, although it seems to be the main driving force behind producing this podcast, social media is ruining our lives. I think you and most people would be happier without it.
Think you’re right. Future generations will look at this one and wonder why we did it.
I come off general social media - Facebook and all that crap - about 10 years ago. I kept a "football twitter" account until about 2 years ago when I deleted it, shame in a way as it was decent for genuine football news - but it was plagued by idiots, serotonin Junkies playing to the gallery for a few cheap likes. Same negative stuff repeated constantly. You'll miss it for a bit but eventually you'll almost forget the like of wilko, John o sullivan etc and all them blerts ever existed
FSG may be better than G&H, but that doesn't mean they've been, or are 'great' custodians of LFC. That's not to say that they haven't done some things which have benefited the club, but they are doing those things because it is benefiting them financially, including using the club as collateral when investing in other, more important (to FSG) sport related investments.
Just look at the Red Mancs and the Glazers. They've won a few more trophies under them than we have under FSG, including four more league titles. Despite that, ask Man Utd fans what they think of the Glazers and they'll almost all tell you that they hate them and want them gone.
Look at what FSG did in terms of the pandemic and the furlough scheme. Then you have the issues of ticket prices and trying to trademark the word "Liverpool", two things they were forced to backtrack on, largely as a result of pressure put on them by the fans. Something that many fans also do not know is that loans were taken out to develop Anfield and the training ground, but not only were loans taken out, but they were taken out via a subsidiary of FSG. That begs the question of who exactly is benefiting from the interest payments?
Between 2012-201 Liverpool rank 11th in the PL in terms of owner net investment, which is bad enough, but if you take the last five years, FSG's net investment ranks 19th. If you polled a large number of Liverpool fans who they think is more responsible for Liverpool's recent success out of FSG or Klopp, I guarantee you that the vast majority will say Klopp. You may want to give FSG kudos for hiring Klopp, but given their knowledge of football Vs their knowledge of American sports, I think it's very likely that the reason they hired Klopp is because he had shown he could be successful whilst adhering to a strict budget, not because they have a great awareness of what makes a great manager, or what even makes 'a Liverpool manager'.
In regards to expressing a positive view of FSG, whilst that is your prerogative, and you may well be sincere in your views, let's not pretend that 'the access media' isn't a thing, or that certain individuals or organisations aren't adversed to a bit of shilling. Just look at the mass media's treatment of Manchester City both before and after these 115 charges became a thing. They effectively never mention how they've gone from a mid table club to a juggernaut, never mind these 115 charges. Why? It's because they want access to the club, the players and the manager, something that will likely be revoked if they say something that raises the ire of those involved with Man City. Such things don't require the say so from the likes of Masour, or in Liverpool's case John Henry. All it takes is for someone in a senior position to take a stance on a particular issue be it revoking an individual's or organisation's access to the club, or actually giving them access or some other perks if they happen to say the right things about the club.
@@jaysmith2858 Access v what was said on TAW wasn't a thing. And that was what I was talking about.
@@JohnPG1706.Who is Kev?
Do love the chat around Alonso at the end. Obviously, there is plenty of time between now and the end of the season.
But think a chat around the candidates to take over from Klopp could be it's own show down the line
Houllier, Benitez, Rodgers and Klopp all referred to "character" regularly in interviews. The best Liverpool sides have all had character and those who have been the hardest to endure have lacked it. Anyone who has played the game at any reasonable level knows it is an important facet of success in football.
great pod boys
Cheers boys, great takes as usual
I was in the ground Saturday and I thought the atmosphere was decent and the crowd was quite up for it. I didn’t check the city score beforehand and it was loud enough at kick off I had to check to see if I was missing something. First half hour killed it for a bit and the equaliser the same but essentially nothing to see here. All fine
The fact they never let the 115 charges go is the main reason I love this pod but Copey's argument for Lijnders on a previous show was right up there. Watched the Leverkusen game and would be happy with Alonso but still Lijnders for me.
Well done lads, the Klopp carracter born under Shankly is and always has been at the centre of this club and the vast majority of the fan base. Keep reminding the others!
Great listen as usual fellas. UTFR.
Alonso reminiscent of George Harrison, bubbling away in the background but top of the food chain in their craft
Another boss show lads, really appreciate you and your insight.
When a team wins a title usually a player steps up out of nowhere I thought Elliot was going to shine in January which never happened still not ruling him out doing watch Sterling did in the second half of the13/14 season.
2 defeats!? Nah lad, just one loss for me! The other “loss” nah we won’t let it go !
No Mo No Problem! (Except the shocker at the Emirates)
Hope the job is going well Robbo!
LOVE the Alonso confidence boys! To be perfectly honest Alonso was my only choice the day i found out the klopp news.
How can anyone watch Arteta slapping his watch complaining about Gomez time wasting when we are 2-1 down and not think he’s getting carried away?
I'm all in for Xabi but my concern is, what happens if we approach him and he say's he wants one more year at Leverkusen - CL footy with them or maybe just family reasons, uprooting again etc. What do we do then? Great show - fuck the dissenters! #YNWA
The criticism of Jones was and is ridiculous, he has always shown himself to be adaptable and very capable. He has shown himself able to directly follow instructions from the manager - filling in multiple positions, I love that "Swiss Army Knife" analogy, Robbo - and I think that's his biggest asset. He obviously always has had outstanding talent. Elliott has been hugely impactful from the bench this season. I'd personally like to see him take this into starting appearances. Too often he's ineffectual when he starts for me. He is still young, though, as you say.
NOTES: May I just say loves that it is TAKEN stick and not “Took stick”. Well done darlings👏
Wasn’t after an English lesson. Carry on.
@@thelatechallengepodcast Definite Scouse grammar. Incredibly endearing. Be proud of it 💪
Shout out to Robbo, my carpets look fantastic my neighbours are so jealous, best carpet fitter in Liverpool! 💪
Sound. Go ed Robbo the carpet fitter whoever he is
We have to look after ourselves and our own performances and just get the blinkers on, i think if we take 36 points from last 14 games, which means we can maybe afford to lose 2 and beat city at home along the way we get 90 points and i think that will just be enough to give jurgen that well deserved 2nd title, up the reds.
Great show lads. It has to be Alonso now.
Any thoughts on Liverpool issuing all digital tickets for the cup final? I think it’s the wrong decision (i.e. what happens if people have issues outside of the ground on the day etc), especially when Chelsea have issued paper tickets for their fans.
“He wears body warmers” made me laugh that.
Up the TLC!!
Magic show, live makes it …
You had to have character to play Inter-mural football at Sheffield Uni in the mid 90’s I tell you…
😂 You certainly did
christ he is the double of Irish Luke lol
Another belter lids.
A bit random, but when Paul mentioned how other clubs would bite your hand off to have 'only' won one league title under Kloop, I was reminded of being at a conference looking into ways of how to tackle actual poverty and the just as importantly, perception of poverty (as it is the latter that is the real fucker) and a chap from the CAB got up and did a presentation on how as a society we are conditioned to avoid even thinking about the question of how much is enough, in all areas of our lives. I agree with both of you that character is needed to achieve potential, as talent can often be wasted and I think learning to put the issues we face in perspective helps develop character. We might end up winning fuck all this season and I will be gutted we do (especially if it is by the point PGMOL deducted from us against Spuds - no I won't let it go either) but regardless of what might happen Jurgen Klopp has already done enough to be a Liverpool legend now.
Bit of random bollocks for you both there.
Love what you do and will enjoy listening for as long as you can be arsed to do it.
YNWA
Bring back fact of the week🙇♂️
Brilliant show as always lads. Love listening to you both, & appreciate ALL you do. Loved listening to your passion Robbo over Xabi, I thought it was only me 😀😀 who felt that way. When you think about it, this season is a movie in the making, what’s happened to the team (Tottenham Hotspur😡) players (kidnapping) players (death) and right out of the blue, are BOSS announced ‘ I’m leaving at the end of the season’ 😔 and we’re top of the league 😄😄. We are Brilliant. Klopp leaving blew me away, but I keep thinking of Shanks 😢 & then Paisley arrived… 👍🏽 I’ll say no more. Im just praying 🙏🏽 it’s Xabi. Keep up the Great work & thanks. YNWA ❤❤❤
I never used to rate jones when he first got in the team……thought he slowed play down a lot & gave the ball away more than not but wow the lad class his pass n move on the edge of the box even beating his man getting dangerous crosses in topped off now with goals great player even go as far to say he could be as good as Ronnie whelan if he keeps this improvement up
Alonso makes my balls shrink with excitement just thinking seeing him on our/his touchline. UP THE REDS
Lads, I tend to agree with everything you say. Klopp, brilliant. FSG, brilliant. Some people are never happy no matter how successful we are. Keep up the good work. 👍
Thanks mate
Another great show.when I win euromillions I will write u lads big cheque. Ynwa best show on Internet ❤😊
The doubts around Alonso are on things he has not done/achieved yet, as opposed to other managers where their flaws are immediately obvious.
Everyone scored good headers
Some good points made, I don't think fsg are the worst owners, I understand both sides of the arguments. In a perfect world I would want owner's, who have genuine love for football, I give fsg credit for bringing LFC into 21st century interms of commercially. I don't think this model can be maintained to keep us at the top, especially if city get away with the charges. KLOPP is the best manager for this fsg model, I am disappointed in the oweners that they have not come out and said anything personally about klopp leaving, especially how he has worked with FSG and respected that we cant always sign player's that we want but still succeeded.
He hasn’t left yet. Also Billy Hogan did a press conference with Jürgen. He’s FSG’s man.
@@thelatechallengepodcast no I just think they should have said something, personally Ik probably if announcement was made later we would have a message straight away or something, from FSG
Mate we still have games to win and history to be made, now is not the time for directors to be making statements.
Jurgen and the players don't need the distractions
Nice one lads ,❤
Such a good topic, have players got the character for Liverpool? Loads have come and thought they’ve made it - Kewell, Balotelli, Cole, Diouf whilst some have had a point to prove - Robertson, Gary Mac, Mo and Coutinho. Give me a player with a point to prove and a chip on his shoulder any day of the week. Just look at Ian Rush - went to Paisleys office, our most successful manager ever, and demanded to know why he wasn’t playing instead of sitting in the reserves picking up his wages and we all know what happened next.
You can add McMahon and Aldridge to that list as well!
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Does Alonso actually want to come to us now? Will he try to develop as a manager at Leverkusen?
Guillem Balague asked him if he’d like to coach Liverpool and he said Yes. This was a few years ago.
The lingering fart of Man City. 😂😂
FSG have done an incredible job, some will never give them credit and that’s tough shit on them, imagine being that thick 🤦🏼♂️ Great context from Copey, The Stadium is a huge point, we were going right the other way, imagine looking at Anfield now as a housing project but instead we’ve kept our home and it’s growing bigger and bigger, all done sustainably whilst Jürgen won the major trophies as we’ve signed apple unreal players, brought in academy players. We’ve amazing training facilities for the Men’s and Women’s teams. We’ve been living a golden era for Liverpool FC. Keep it Lit 🔥 lads, love listening to your channel.
You hear Sky, TalkShite and the rest of media making a mountain from a molehill. Then you have 2 genuine fans talking sense.
Ha there too much Chelsea bashing before a cup final for my liking 😂
Ive always said, Klopp apart, staying at Anfield is FSG best decision.
I know we're acting like Alonso saved this bad side but they've been top 6 in like 5 of the last 6 seasons, he didn't come into a bad squad. He's definitely doing a great job but I feel like the whole "took a side who were near bottom" tries to spin things in a weird way. They're a pretty consistent CL/EL team.
Bayern have won the league 11 seasons running.
Leverkusen have finished 3, 4, 4, 3, 12, 5, 4, 5, 6, 3, 6.
Top of the league red's
Alonso will win the lag with in two years
As good as FSG have been, I can’t help but think they wasted a golden opportunity to truly capitalise on Klopps reign. Also what happened to the investment.. seems that went sour now all of a sudden Klopp is losing energy…
Robbo, whats that on the back of your mic?? Actually makes me feel uncomfortable 😮😂
No idea, hadn't spotted it until you mentioned it.
Come on lads; a non-fsg outer here but its fairly obvious you dont bite the hand that feeds you in life. You two are still a developing podcast but its in the best interest of the wrap/redmen etc to keep the club sweet. I dont believe its directly a monetary thing, or even an "agreement" per se but - like every other job in the world - you understand sometimes how to box a bit clever to help you along
Fuck sake
It’s just not a thing. Not once when I was there did we discuss censoring a view about fucking FSG.
@thelatechallengepodcast Gareth/ Paul; Long time viewer and fan so please don't take it personally - you two (and Craig btw) were the best thing on the wrap - I don't in anyway think it was discussed but, hypotheticaly imagine you had an "anti fsg" show to upload or article to publish when you got a club email offering you access all areas on the pre season tour and some big interviews. If you can honestly say you wouldn't even *consider* shelving the piece, knowing this could make or break your show and potentially turn it a full time occupation, then you're a far better person than me and fair play to you. Also, I don't for one minute think its John Henry per se but of course he'll have underlings doing there best to make sure fsg get the best press possible in whatever way that is.
Actually lfc lost to arsenal so it was a problem. Man city and the 115 charges has created a mad situation where you need to be near perfect to win the league.
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If you could swap Elliot with Cole Palmer you would & that’s why Elliot ain’t good enough to be a starter
City are strong at Anfield win two Times in 70 years.
Give Burnley their due. They were good 👍
Xabi does also have a buy out clause for us. Real or Bayern. It's interesting. The only problem I see is Klopp's shoes are really big to fill ! C'MON XABI !!!! Up you lads. UP THE FUCKING REDS!
Up the reds..❤❤❤ynwa
I quite like Lidl baquettes mate. Stop looking down ya nose
To play devils advocate for the tinfoil brigade. It obviously wouldn’t be John Henry that would veto any access. It would be a PR exec or head of the marketing team who would research and investigate any independent or 3rd party media outlets to vet what they’ve said in the past along with any nefarious associations and/or controversies. Which is very common practice for organisations as big as LFC and FSG. I feel you’re straw manning the argument here lads.
No mate, you are. Because no one from LFC, PR exec, head of marketing, press or otherwise stood in the way of, attempted to control or anything else. How would that work exactly? No one ever told me what to say or write and I did exactly as I pleased. Same applies to everyone else.
@@garethroberts6075 that’s fair enough. I’m not insinuating that they attempted to influence you in to saying whatever you pleased. But it IS an almost certainty that they would have vetted you and/or whatever media outlet you were working for at the time to ensure they weren’t giving legitimacy or ‘access’ to something or someone they wouldn’t desire to be associated with. Especially when it comes to smaller independent outlets. At one point is that considered by the smaller outlets? Is it naive to think on some level it does influence the stories and opinions that are ran with? At least on an editorial level. I’m asking out of ignorance, mainly.
5th wealthiest club in world football, club worth 10 x what they paid for it, 11th highest net spend in the prem akin to Wolves, kin great........Proper delusional 😂😂😂
Wages? 😂😂😂
Living within means 😂😂😂
If I put three laughing emojis after my point does it make it funny 😂😂😂
@@thelatechallengepodcast wages 😂😂😂 Were Wolves raking in £100m a season from CL football??? Are Wolves a European giant with a worldwide fanbase??? Try again....... 😘
@@thelmaviaduct Do Wolves pay the wages we do? Try again 😂😂😂
City will win the league relatively handily. I havent felt we were on for the league for 1 second this season. I expect us to pick up one or 2 cups
That’s the spirit
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live in NY do not mind Billy Hogan all Americans think the Irish swear too much LOL.. At least we are truthful people and not phoney!!!