All-new Subaru Levorg (Legacy wagon/estate) FULL REVIEW test driven 2016 - Autogefühl
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Just a quick comment. Thomas is the gold standard for RUclips reviews, especially for European cars. This review is typically good. He not only conveys his reactions to the car but gives viewers a sense of his values and biases. That helps viewers see his reviews in context. I have warm and fuzzy feelings for Subaru. And I should: I'm driving a 14-year-old Subaru that has not needed a repair yet.
so great to hear that Steve, spread the word for us!
Agree that this RUclips channel always ranks German cars above everything else - basically a German propaganda channel.
I too like Subaru.
Excellent review, one of the best English language reviews on this car on the internet. He covers all aspects of the car clearly and in great detail. Pity all car reviews weren't as good as this one.
thanks Carl !
Sir, you have the most accurate reviews I've ever seen. You should be a TV star
+MrBewow12 thank you - keep on supporting us :)
I have a 1995 Gt Legacy twin turbo wagon,, have had it for 14 years now,, it was a japan import into new zealand where i brought it,, then when i moved back to australia it had to come with me,, just changed the cam belt and water pump and plugs,, done 200 and 4 thousand km,, and it still gets up and goes keeps up with the new cars of today,,
Great and detailed review. As for the Levorg, I must say that I was sold on first sight. Last week I took it for a test drive and have to say that it drives like a dream. Road handling is so nice. Right down in the middle of sporty and comfy. You must try it. I actualy think that they've done great with CVT! Right now I own a Legacy IV Diesel which I love, but this is a different animal. Don't expect it to be WRX because it's not. It's way more comfy and family oriented. The 1.6 turbo is nice and economical, but I must say that it would be nice for Subaru to change market strategies for EU, and offer 2.0 Diesel, as well as 2.0 Petrol turbo.
I have to agree with Adrian Black. This is definitely, without question, a wagon version of the Impreza/WRX. Same wheelbase, same dashboard/instrument panel. The Legacy has about a 4 inch (10 cm) longer wheelbase and is about 2.3 inches wider. The Legacy is, overall, quite a bit larger than the Impreza/Levorg. BTW, the 2016 Legacy is currently available in the U.S. The wagon version of the Legacy that we get is called the Outback and has a raised suspension and a few different styling cues. Same as the one you get in Germany.
Aside from the model mix-up, it is, as always, a great review.
I was just about to email you and kindly ask for this review. Thanks for the best reviews in Europe!!!
Another great review, as always. Very thorough; lots of detail and information. Thanks.
+Tim Waters thanks Tim!
+Autogefühl Thomas i have a "demand" or a sugestion when you review a petrol engine i beg you to dont speak for 30-60 seconds when you drive the car to hear the engine noise :) 10x and nice review of the car :)
best channel for auto reviews....Congratulations!!! greetings from Romania
+Bogdan Istode thanks !! merry xmas to romania
Japanese car in Germany: sticker saying "max 240 km/h"
In Japan: absolutely max legal speed limit you can encounter on expressway is 100 km/h, while in most cases it's 80 km/h.
THomas ! excellent review! you guys almost reviewed all the cars that im interested in ! :D good job keep the good work going !
+Yipwong Suen if you have any wishes please let us know:)
It's a W(agon)RX
+tokekkk i wanted to up vote this 100 times
Thomas,
As for the highway it seems you drove in normal mode. You should have tried with Sport mode in order to improve steering and gas reaction. I have just bought this car and it drives perfect!
Yeah i forgot to show that on cam
i think its a beautiful car and a very well done car and i alwayes buy this car and not the passat.
from usa
i want one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another great review! I'm glad I have found you! :)
+János Kovács great! Stay with us and spread the word :)
+Autogefühl definitely!
This is a great review.Thanks.
In the past. I drove a 2004 STI and a 2013 BRZ so I am familiar with the Subarus.
When I looked at the Levorg at first it seemed odd with the name and all but after test driving it I liked it a lot.
We are going to lease a new car and Levorg is definitely a candidate now. Especially given the fact that all those European brands are extremely expensive in Turkey, Levorg is a steal given AWD, Boxer engine, reliability and my Subaru bias.
Your comments regarding the CVT was interesting because I liked it despite what the British reviewers have said and written in their reviews.
The fact that it comes in one guise is great because when you spec up the European brands to Levorg level, at least in Turkey, they become more expensive. Besides, at least for me, Subaru is a great albeit a niche brand that I like a lot.
+Temuçin Tüzecan thanks ! And have fun with it :)
I bought a Levorg and driven about 1000 kilometers. My initial impressions that I shared with you after the test drive are confirmed. It is fun to drive, it can carry the family and the dog (a labrador) with ease, it is more frugal than Ford Kuga. I added Audio Technich amplifier and sub-woofer, DSL speakers to get rid of the cardboard OEM speakers and improve the sound quality. The head unit is Clarion but it is a bit on the cheap side. Changing it was a hassle and I kept it. There was huge improvement in sound quality.
In Turkey Subaru XV is a big hit and given this price level, if Levorg is imported in sufficient numbers, I am sure Levorg will be as well. A 4Motion Passat with equivalent kit level is 50% more expensive for example. And recently Subaru Turkey starter running a Turkish produced ad campaign that is rather succesful meaning that it is coming out of the shadows.
I picked up a GTS Spec B with STI kit in Australia. Love it :)
hey zoixy just wondering if you still have it? and how it going. I just got the 1.6 gts premium
Flawless review, Thomas! I really like wagons, Passat R36 , Mazda 6 wagon and MB Shooting brake are my favorite wagons.
+白金 thanks m8 !
with the SI mode the CVT accelerates faster and more linearly - I drove the legacy diesel and have to say that in this mode the acceleration as well as the control of the revs by the cvt is very similar to the manual diesel legacy - in fact not for no reason they have the same 0 - 100km/h acceleration times. Certainly with the I mode the cvt returns to a elastic band like acceleration when strongly accelearated, however in relxed driving and acceleration the I mode is miraculous, keeping the revs constant +/- 10% until you reach high speeds > 130km/h where the revs need to go up to allow more power from the engine...overall I agree the steering has more "play", but on a country road the car drives like on rails, extremly precise follwoing the direction desire by the driver, the suspension is critisized as soft and comfortable...I would say that of the 2008 diesel legacy was softer...this is hard compared to that, definately harder than the A4, with standard 16"allowys in the lower trims, but less hard than the S versions from Audi...I think an excellent compromise.
Thanks for the really great in depth review
We Americans are jealous. This wagon is a fine alternative to the BMW 3 Series touring.
Excellent review. Keep up the good work.
Have had Legacy wagons '91 turbo, '94 turbo, '07 2.0 R AT and now '10 2.5 CVT Outback. While the suspension, engines and boxes are still solid, each generation adds few potential electrical issues. Starting from '07 which has HID as std equipment, auto adjustment fails. Also that stupid reverse air intake valve, which was eventually removed from next generation. HID adjustment keeps failing for 2010. In addition, ABS sensor in CVT gearbox is prone to fail and not cheap to replace. I have heard rumours that on Outbacks starting from 2014 the AWD system is totally electronically controlled (like on Volvo), meaning, if you have blown ABS fuse, you technically drive a FWD car. If that's true, '10 is my last Subaru.
thanks for the feedback !
I would absolutely prefer a wagon to the sedan. It's frustrating how few options for wagons over here. The only larger wagon we have here is the E Class. If they brought it to the states, they would practically have the market to themselves.
I've been driving a Legacy '08 Wagon 2.0R for the last couple of years and was a great purchase. Had to service it of course before starting it's new life with me, changed the timing belt, filters, automatic transmission oil, gave it a really nice fresh fully synthetic oil and drives really okay on the battered Bulgarian roads. Suspension-wise had to change some tampons and it feels like new and the boxer, man this thing sounds beautiful!
Great detail review
+Shirley Kincaid thanks shirley!
sadly youtube car reviews have moved towards to 10 minute video mark for short attention span generation. If im buying $50k on a car, i should at least know how many fking buttons i got on the steering wheels and.
this review is fking excellent
Welcome 🙏
Waited for this Test. Thanks.
+Christian P. you re welcome m8
The version you get in Germany is so much more aggressive looking! I like it! But I'm glad that we have the 6 cylinder here in the US.
Really like the Levorg. How and why they came up with the name is a total enigma though. I find it a real shame that they are not offering it with a manual gearbox. Also unfortunate that the 2 liter version is not available in Europe. Otherwise it seems to me like a great car.
+Nonbelieverification But i find a real shame that you are typing some kind of hate comment about the Levorg. And I agree that it seems to me like a great car.
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan Not a hate comment, more like the opposite. From first impressions I really like it...am just a fan of a manual gearbox.
Nonbelieverification Ok, now I see. Thanks!
Le = legacy vo= revolution rg= touring
I would love a wagon in the states!
I really like your video.. they are really in depth and covers almost every aspect of the car. Exactly what I needed. I'm contemplating between WRX and Levorg - I would greatly appreciate if you could do a video on WRX (not STi). Thanks and keep up the good work!
thanks, love to hear that! Trying to get a WRX atm, but indeed here in Germany you can _only_ get the STi
thanks for this very complete review, friendly greetings, jörgen
in your service!
@@autogefuehl just bought one. hope it gives me a lot of pleasure. what is the difference between I and S mode on the steeringwheel if i may ask? greetings
This will be a hot seller here in the U.S.!!! This is a in between the Impreza and a WRX. The hatchback Impreza is a great car but it lacks power and this wagon seems to be it. Really wish we get this soon over here
Thanks for the review i love old subaru rally cars :) boxer engine just sounds that bit different than anything else:) shame they wont do something about the interior. One more thing i forgot to mention in my previous comments i really support your stance on not using animal leather it is important to talk about moving forward from this. keep up the good work.
+Mirosław Jurdeczka thanks Miroslaw I really appreciated that!
Great review. Thanks for that!
I drive an legacy H6 Spec b - Great car absolutely love it.
Reliable and a wonderful Engine.
Levorg is quit interesting, sad that the 2.0DIT isn't available in Europe.
1.6 with manual would be an option, but i've to drive the CVT ...
+MrDeppenSepp thanks for the feedback!
Thomas, we have this vehicle except it comes with body features to look more like an SUV (similar to the Volvo Cross Country). Our version only comes with 2.5 liter H4 or a 3.6 liter H6. (Subaru pronunciation: SOO-BAH-ROO) American sales have increased so much that Subaru stopped building Toyota Camry's with its extra production capacity in Indiana.
+gbriank1 thanks m8! you do pronounce the first syllable like _SOO_bah-roo, dont you?
Your English pulls me the shoes out :)))
Great review. I quite like the look of this car but a bit restrictive in range (especially in UK) and why no diesel?? The price is a bit high too. Some parts of interior a bit dull but huge improvement from Subarus of old.
+Grant Muir thanks! yeah you are stating the right aspects
I like your videos details on the cars you show I wish they sold this subaru Levorg in the US
+Shirley Kincaid love to hear that, spread the word for us!
This would compliment my 2018 WRX STI if we had these in Canada.....sadly we don't have Levorg here....we get lame CUV/SUVs =(
Hi Thomas!
What was the average consumption during the test? Good review btw!
Best Regards, Joe
I like your smooths English 😀
Definitely a strange decision from Subaru top managers, only a 1.6 engine for Europe. Surely the 2.0 Turbo across the World would be a far more sensible way forward.
My family has owned 2 Subaru's. I owned a 1993 Impreza 1.8l which I sold @ 200k miles on the engine but in rough shape. We recently got a 2014 XV 2.0l with the cvt. I think the cvt is okay, good for calm driving but when you start to push it, it then starts to have trouble finding a gear position and revs quite high. I would much rather have the 5 speed auto from my 2007 SAAB 9-3 which is way smoother but I get about 20-23 mpg while the XV gets around 25-28 mpg with similar driving.
I'd say Subaru engines are pretty solid except for the 2.5L head gasket problem and the build quality overall is solid but on the cheaper side.
+Matthew Mers thanks for the feedback!
+Matthew Mers I don't really understand why people have problems with cars using their rev range (aka. going into to their performance bandwith) when trying to accelerate. Thats no matter what transmission you have, lower revs = slower acceleration.
I understand this, it just sits at high/medium revs too long before shifting. I'm certainly not scared to rev my saab high as that increases the turbo spool and give that car real power. But in the NA Subaru its different.
so want this car to be available in the states!!
ruclips.net/video/jCh6G5izzdI/видео.html
Great review though
+Van Gk thanks!
I have testdrived this car, I'm 200cm tall and I didnt feel it was too small for me. Actually was quite big in my opinion. But I agree that the seat should be able to go lower than it is.
Regarding the sensation of space , it all depends which car you were daily driving for a while before trying this one. In may case, it instantly felt too small but now i got used to it. The center console between the seat is %75 large compared to my previous car , the storage spaces in the door cards at best half larger and so on.......
Gruss dich Thomas! Subaru sells loads of Legacy Estate here in California, we just have to pretend its an SUV, and call it an "Outback". Its a favorite here in the SF Bay Area to such a degree that its difficult to get one for less than MSRP. As far as popularity of wagons in the US, I own a Golf Sportwagen, and despite the diesel scandal I get frequent questions about it when I'm out and about.
+Max Anderson :-)
Great review!
Here in Japan the station wagon model seems to be more popular from what I can tell. Also, Japanese love screens in their cars! :) I think they limited it in this one, but I regularly see cars with two big screens (one aftermarket) in the front. I think it's mainly for better navigation and TV. The street system doesn't work with organized street names and numbers, so no matter how basic the car, everyone needs GPS.
+Bert Leysen very interesting, thanks! So estates in general are more popular than the sedans in .jp?
+Autogefühl I don't think so. I just checked the statistics, and although there are no separate ones for sedans or hatches, last year 426,917 estates were sold over a total of 2,458,153 "passenger vehicles". For comparison "offroad vehicles" (mainly SUVs I think) were sold by the number 374,220 (close to the estates), but the biggest sale was of what they call "semi-cab wagons" (750,999). I think these are all sizes of MPVs such as a Honda Odyssey or Suzuki Lapin. These are kind of the recent replacements of traditional estates. They are terrible at cornering, since many of them are ridiculously narrow and tall, but for small roads and parking spaces they make sense I guess. The same goes for how they built houses here, often more space is used in the height.
+Autogefühl By the way, I came across these sales numbers too, so I'll leave them here in case anyone is interested. In 2014 in Japan Toyota sold 1,503,879 cars, Honda 446,348, Nissan 405,437, Mazda 167,382, and Subaru 126,564.
Great review sir. That looks clean and mean, can care less about leather tho. I drive a 98 legacy l wagon:) Love wagons. Don't know why its not in U.S market, i see many driving subaru wagons here where im from. Wish they had it in the U.S
thanks join us for more reviews! :)
Great review! I want it badly in US...
+Xiao Zhang Last I read, Subaru will not be offering a Legacy wagon. You'll have to stay with the Outback and the H6.
+gbriank1 Too bad. All the wagons in US have some weak points. Outback H6 is not fuel efficient. BMW 328i wagon is a little soft. V60 T5 drive e doesn't have AWD. A4 Allroad is small and on the expensive side. New A4 Avant most likely won't come to US.
As you mentioned, Outback H6 might the best option so far... I might end up with a golf R...
Xiao Zhang Depends on how big of a car you are looking for. All of the wagons mentioned, minus the Outback, are all compact. The Outback is mid-sized.
The Golf R is in a completely different category all together. You might also want to defer judgement regarding fuel economy on the R. The government is now going to re-test all VW vehicles are emissions cheating, including gasoline engines.
What is it that you are looking for in a car.
+gbriank1 I want an AWD hatchback or wagon which is not boring to drive... Focus RS is too hardcore. I haven't driven a manual car for 5 years. I also don't think I can handle a focus RS. I like the current Forester XT powertrain. But it's too tall. R might be the only option for me...
Actually I test drove all the cars I mentioned except the R and the upcoming RS, the H6 outback is so far my favorite...
Subaru isn't a sporty vehicle (minus the WRX and BR-Z). Even with the Turbo 4 (Forester) or the Horizontal 6 (Outback) are in the same driving class as an Accord or Camry.
The GTI inspired Golf R is pretty darn awesome. But, you are looking at spending $40k+. I'd also look at the X1, QX50. Sad they took away the WRX hatch. The Focus RS isn't the most reliable these days.
A great review! But try to avoid showing the number plates of other drivers (You know the legal situation in germnany!) - Keep on going with your great work!
+Tino Schwerdtner thanks! Showing number plates in general in the background are not a legal problem, its not a Schädigung of the Allgemeine Persönlichkeitsrecht ;-)
Would you recommend buying the Levorg? Some folks are worried about boxer engine reliability.
Subarus are great cars. never been unhappy with mine. They could improve on their navi systems. I wish this and the VX/Crosstrek came with a larger turbo engine though. I'll stick with the leather though. My mife makes a cloth seat look like 30 years of use after only 6. stains and dirt.... yeah. Also, HEY! You're in Mainz! Just across the river from me.
Thx for the feedback! Pls consider the ethical implications of leather
I miss the days when a starting price of 29K was considered high.
I have to try one out!
Absolutly great review as usual.
But the car.... I just dont know. Big airscoop on the bonnet for a 1.6??
Not sure about the name aswell. Does that mean the Legacy is no longer available anymore?
Not a big fan of the CVT. Can make alot of noice inside the car. Not very comfortable.
Just my opinion :)
+Indy Pindy In Europe, indeed the Legacy is not available anymore and the Levorg replaces it. In the US, you can get the Legacy sedan
In New Zealand we have both the Legacy (and Outback) and the Levorg :) I'd love to try out the 2.0 turbo with 221kw!
+Zachary Ong Subaru-land!
I had a subaru legacy before. I like the design of subaru, outside is very sportif, the interior design is very clean. The seats and suspension are very comfortable. But the engine is not so durable, CVT transmission is not so reactive.
i hate station wagons, but i find this weirdly attractive - probably because it's a hybrid between a hatchback and a station wagon.
i'd buy this if i would live in Switzerland, or Siberia, or somewhere in the mountains, but otherwise, not quite.
Subaru should have made much fewer models, and option them with a variable height suspension, that's how you can take full advantage of the AWD.
buying an impreza means you're afraid to take it offroad, and yet buying an XV you will give up on all the low center of gravity offered by an impreza - too bad.
US needs a Legacy wagon & WRX hatchback
I've been curious to see an in-depth review of the Levorg, as this particular model of Subaru isn't available here in the U.S. I know that there is some interest for the Levorg in the U.S. among some Subaru enthusiasts, as it closely resembles a WRX station wagon, which is sadly no longer available. It is disappointing to discover that you found the Levorg to be not very sporty feeling, but perhaps it would better in this respect if it were to be equipped with the larger turbocharged engine coupled with a manual transmission. Your review was excellent, by the way.
I do have a question, though. In your review, you mentioned some of the Levorg's competitors in the European market are in the mid-size category (Volkswagen Passat, Ford Mondeo/Fusion), however I was under the impression that the Levorg was a compact car. Here in the U.S., the Subaru Impreza and WRX variants are considered compact cars, and are market rivals with the Ford Focus and Volkwagen Golf. In Europe, do you feel that the Levorg is a more natural rival to the Ford Focus or Volkswagen Golf wagon?
+Eric Shea hey, thanks for your feedback. The Levorg kinda sits between the segments. It is a little bit shorter than the Passat (mid-size) but longer than the Golf (compact). Same like with the Skoda Octavia
Thanks for the Review. we don't get this car in north america. what i noticed that subaru is pricey in Europe i don't know why?
i can get a subaru outback 3.6R for $ 34K. you didn't mention if they offer the EYE SIGHT technology. also does it have x-mode like outback or not. i agree with you about the car engine is good, interior is good for the price. but the handling: if you gave the car a good sporty exterior it should behave like one at least the steering to be more precise. transmission: CVT AND SPORTY LOOK doesn't go with each other like the new nissan maxima and CVT come on. we buy subaru in the US for best AWD for the price and it's also very good and the car is reliable and maintenance is cheap.
+Bluegene yeah they are way cheaper in the us
We get the 2 litre Turbo in Australia not the 1.6 litre
Interesting in regards of drivetrain and suspension, the car received highest marks by reviewers in Eastern European countries, while Thomas doesn't seem to like it. Well ja, he was driving boring autobahn, whereas the Czech reviewers were driving trough snow and curvy mountain roads. This Levorg (I like the name more than "Legacy") has the genes of the WRXi rally car (save the engine). Concerning cabin interior, yep, agreed, boring and nothing special but not bad either, exactly like in an Audi A4 which is considered by the Dzsörman press to have an exemplary well done interior (which is an exaggeration in the other direction).
Good and complete review, but why did you only drove it in the "Intelligent" (slower and better fuel consumption) mode and not the Sport one? The CVT changes the way it shifts in Sport mode and of course the acceleration on the road is better
+grx8 yeah I noticed that to, forgot to do it during the driving shots
Nice review Stefan! It will be great if you make more videos with Japanese cars (Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Subaru)!
Thank you!
+Vitalii Gladun It's Thomas :) Sure we are doing, Honda and Mazda very frequent here
+Autogefühl Sorry man)))) Thomas I really interesting in Forester And RAV4) I saw your vid with NX but it's really more premium one)
+Vitalii Gladun heh no probs =) Yeah RAV4 is missing. Trying to get that one for next year
+Autogefühl Thanks a lot :)
I really love this Subaru Levorg.
But have you compared this with "Hyundai i40 estate" especially of 2013 up?
Subaru doesn't make any mediocre cars, but this one is not their best IMHO. I've driven an Outback for 14 perfectly happy years. Haven't even changed a lightbulb, and no repairs. But the Levorg seems like something Subaru cadged together from a great little rally car. The car I'm excited about is the new Impreza, not yet sold in Europe. I look forward to your review of it.
my father owns a levorg and its so comfortable to drive with it. cannot compared to my wrx sti 😊
WRX STI review will also be coming up :)
Autogefühl sehr schön. I love the wrx sti nicely fallen out of time. sti is a class for its own. would be nice if you could make the review also in German. keep going on with your channel. thumps up!
Good review. But it's not a Legacy. This car is made to replace 4th generation Legacy wagon, while current legacy generation 6. As some other commenters pointed out, it's built on Impreza platform and while Europe gets its slow 1.6 version, Australia and Japan are also getting 2.0 turbo, very similar to WRX spec (don't confuse with WRX STi).
2.0 version is definitely a much sportier car, but 1.6 would rather be a middle of the road car competing with VW golf wagon or Skoda Octavia.
+Alex Salamakha But Australia will be available in 1.6 only, though Subaru will confirm it soon after some testing in Australia.
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan no, Australia is definitely getting 2.0, same as WRX, which has a bit less power than its Japanese counterpart
www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews/2016-subaru-levorg-review-quick-first-drive-36497
I like the exterior design, very elegant and sporty in a sametime. But the interior design is too sad for me but it's not bad in equipment
+Wold OliviO But for me, the interior is fabulous and so is the equipment.
Not in full hd, full screen, full length?
Pls kindly advice for petrol and diesel engine and which one is better ? Thanks
Hi thomas, nice review, thanks for this! In regards to your steering critique, I noticed in the opening segment that the car is already fitted with Winter tires. This will contribute heavily to the "schwammig gefuhl" of the steering. The standard summer tires are much more precise. I'm not sure of the caster angle is on the levorg, but subaru has been slowly increasing that over the years to improve front end grip. So that extra caster increases steering weight and self centering. How does the size of the rear cargo area feel compared to the Leon ST?
+Arnold Ceasar yeah that could be different with summer tyres indeed. Cargo space, interesting, you might think it is bigger in the Levorg as it is also clearly the longer car. But it is 1.450 litres for the Levorg, 1.470 litres for the Leon - so basically the same
Not sure if you mentioned L/km - mpg Tomas, this car appeals to us in Ireland
Try google for converting :) in newer reviews i usually state mpg us and mpg uk now
Hi Thomas, it is one of the best reviews on Levorg so far and I think it is partly because Levorg is a very new car. Thanks a lot. I have been driving it in Istanbul for about two months now and I should agree with you on a few points you made. I had an XV before this car and Levorg is much better on the inside in terms of quality of the materials they used. Leather trimming with blue stitching is awesome in my opinion. I don't have the prejudice you have for leather as I know we will eat those poor animals anyway so why not make good use of the skin :D. You haven't said a word about the sound system so I will do it for you. It is a piece of crap! I hate it. It was much better in XV. No bass at all, so I am replacing it with a Pioneer HU and sound quality is much much better , even with stock speakers. We do not get the Nav unit you have in Germany but still the same brand ( Clarion). I have always thought Clarion made quality stereos but I think otherwise now. As for the driving, handling and performance, good enough for me. Especially if you switch to S mode, it is a different car. Fuel economy is good. 170 HP is more than enough. I had a nice chat with one of the Subaru Turkey's representatives and he explained to me how small the European market for Subaru is and that is the reason we do not get many options. They are selling like 800,000 cars in the North American market and only 20,000 cars in the whole Europe( just 2000 in Turkey), so they do not care about us so much. I would love to drive a 2L version of this car with 300 HP. I did a test drive with Forester 2L XT ( 240HP) and boy that was a ride I will never forget. Anyways, Subaru is not a premium brand and you should drive it on snowy roads and laugh at the drivers of those so called premium brands as you pass by because they will be waiting for a toe-truck to come and save them as you drive confidently.
+Ozkan Bicer thanks for the thorough feedback! As for the leather, check out my video here: ruclips.net/video/8f91KgbVbJQ/видео.html
Just a small interrogation. You are always referring to Passat/Mazda 6 to benchmark this car. But the Levorg is a C-segment car. More comparable with the Golf Variant no ?
It is said to be something in between :)
versteh nicht warum subaru nicht auch den levorg als impreza wrx oder sti kombi verkauft? 2.5l motor und fertig!
Thanks, Thomas.
In Canada (west) we see mainly the Forester and Outback crossovers from Subaru. The line between these and "Kombi" style models is blurry to me sometimes 😝
Do you think your test vehicle was missing chrome strips on the rear side panel glass?? Looked very odd.
Btw, I often see a Max speed number sticker in the German review car interiors...can you explain this?? Is it because it's a car for journalists or do all vehicles have this sticker?
Ciao!
Oh yeah - the manta ray scoop on the hood looks out of place, really.
Could swallow small children!
+Mario Dalla Riva I guess they have decided just to put the chrome on the lower part, odd though. About the stickers, thats always when winter tyres are mounted and you shouldnt drive too high max speed with them :)
+Mario Dalla Riva manta rey scoop - classic! =) LOL
+Autogefühl 240kph on winter tires....I'm moving to Germania!! 🇩🇪🚙💨🍻
(No drinking while driving, of course!)
It is nice car.
Hello Thomas! What do you think about the new 2015 Outback from Subaru? Maybe you will have a chance to make a review of it..Best wishes!
+Tc.t.tab4 tab Hey! Good question and you came at the right time :) Exactly tomorrow we ll launch the 2016 Subaru Outback review - stay tuned!
+Autogefühl Great! :)
1.86 metres?
I wish they would sell these in the US
visually appealing car but still not convinced with subaru in western markets.
Does it have adaptive cruise control
When You press the "S" button before accellerating you will be surprised what happens
I just bought this...
Hallo Thomas, Ich finde diese auto nicht gut. I somehow have the feeling that each individual part was designed by different designers. In other words more like a forceable marriage. I would prefer Octavia kombi. What is your opinion?
+Sreeharsha Kaligiri yeah would also prefer the Octavia
any chance you will test the Subaru XV or Impreza? Best with the 2.0 engine? :-) one question - is it true that Subaru doesn't let you turn off start/stop system completely?
I ll see what I can do!
Hi Thomas will You test new subaru forester XT?
+jabba007m hey, we have recently tested the outback here: ruclips.net/video/bMvQv2-oXVs/видео.html
It's LeFrog... :-) Subaru should really hire some Italian guy to help them design more esthetic cars. They should also work on increasing their wheel bases which simply look too short (this is probably due to the boxer engine).
+Omer Yehezkely But your name is... LeBULLSHIT!
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan Mr. Tan, enjoy your beautiful Subaru. You are driving the most splendid car on earth!
Are there options for rear captain seats?
I have a few issues with this car.
1. It's expensive. Sure you get AWD and a CVT as standard, but what if I want 2WD and a manual?
2. For the price, the interior is a little dull and the quality is just not good enough.
3. Why can't I pick a diesel? Why can't I pick a manual? I don't like CVT!
+ast5515 1. it is more affordable in my country
2. You do not understand that the interior is more premium now, justifying the price.
3. BECAUSE VW CHEATED, PUTTING A MANUAL ADDS WEIGHT AND I LOVE CVT!
Richard Joash Tan 1. That's your country.
2. It doesn't justify the price, because it's still not as premium as others, and it is more expensive than others.
3. VW has nothing to do with Subaru diesels, and CVTs are not lighter than manuals.
4WD is always better compare to 2WD. If we talk about Subaru because they have the best 4WD in the world. VW, Audi and other crap brands cant perform better at all. Quality is great and the car performs almost like STi when driving....there is no better car in this category while driving
Petr Holubec Best AWD system? In what way exactly? It has 50-50 front-rear with 2 open diffs. How is that the best? Also, what about fuel economy, 2WD is much better when it comes to it.
Yes, it's all about the passion and how the car goes and handles the corners. You can't feel the same when driving 2WD. And fuel economy? What is that? Comparing 8l for 100km with 2WD against 9,5 with 4WD? That is not the case how I look at it. It's about how you feel when driving the car and how it handles difficult situation and road conditions. Subaru's 4WD rules:-)
It's the Americans who hate wagons not Canadians but the manufacturers lump the relatively small Canadian market in with the Americans. They figure they can just force wagon buyers to go for SUVs.
Subaru Outback and the lower wagon always sold very well here in Canada. They seem to have cornered the market for affordable AWD vehicles.
The key would be to align the Euro and NA markets with respect to their regulations so the manufacturers aren't forced to spend millions passing tests for each vehicle. That is, they have to pass every configuration of every model. It's just a government cash grab imo.
+kevin n interesting aspect!
OMG I just realized how tall you are standing beside the car? What's your height?
+Bleu Ray Entertainment 1.86 m
I have 1,93m and I have no problem driving this car. Next time try to use drivers seat controls to set up seating possition :-)
+Autogefühl Thomas tell me. Does this do 240 Kmh? Is the 2.0 coming to Europe?
hm, is 240 kph important ? :D
+Autogefühl No but it was a sign at 240 Kmh, and is the 2.0 liter version coming to Europe in the future/soon?
Why can't they just make a proper hot hatch? Come on Subabooooo!
Thomas, I think that the name Levorg matches the design of the car. Levorg is a Frankenstein's Monster of a name stitched together from various parts. And so is the ugly, miss-mash of design. It's like they're stitched together unrelated parts to come up with the look of the car.
What really struck me was that rear passengers get no air flow to the rear. I didn't see any air-vents in the central section or on the B-Pillars. That would be a deal-breaker (quite apart from the horrendous styling outside and to a lesser extent, inside.
Who on earth buys these monstrosities? Certainly no one with any sense of design taste.
We need cars like this to make the good ones look even better!
+OldVillain :-)
+OldVillain
"Who on earth buys these monstrosities?"
My Response: I DO BECAUSE I WILL BUY THE LEVORG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Certainly no one with any sense of design taste."
My response: Certainly no one will like you with any sense of taste have not driven one. I, on the other hand, HAVE ALL SENSES OF DESIGN TASTES!
" I think that the name Levorg matches the design of the car. Levorg is a Frankenstein's Monster of a name stitched together from various parts. And so is the ugly, miss-mash of design. It's like they're stitched together unrelated parts to come up with the look of the car."
My response: But not me, the Levorg is a beautiful name combined together from various parts!
"And so is the ugly, miss-mash of design. It's like they're stitched together unrelated parts to come up with the look of the car."
My response: JUST LIKE YOUR RUclips USER NAME!!!!!!!!!!
"We need cars like this to make the good ones look even better!"
My response: I need cars like this to make the good ones LOOK WORSE!!!!!!!!!!
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan Ha, ha, ha!
As they say, "there's someone for everyone". Or in this case "something" for everyone.
With you buying the Levorg (😂😂😂 what a rediculous name for a car!), Subaru's sales will surely double from 1 to 2.
Also, there is no need to use more than one exclamation mark at the end of a sentence, no matter how angry, shouty or indignant you are. It is bad grammatical form.
I can highly recommend "The Elements of Style" which is a prescriptive American English writing style guide by Strunk & White.
Merry Christmas Richard!
OldVillain ok. merry christmas.
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan But don't forget to have a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year Richard.
😊
I guess u will complain about the quality of the cabin… in comparison to the cabin of a German car.. but try comparing the quality of the reliability then u will shut up