Deconstructing Old Brown Shoe - The Beatles (Isolated Tracks)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- George wrote Old Brown Shoe on a piano apposed to a guitar. He introduced the song on January 27th, 1969 just days before the rooftop concert. It was worked on diligently but shelved for a later date. George recorded a demo on February 25th, 1969 along with "Something" and "All Things Must Pass". It wasn't until April 16th that the song was recorded properly. George showed up earlier at 2:30 to record a demo of "Old Brown Shoe" which might have been used to help the band get the arrangement down. The session didn't start till 7pm with the band including Ringo showing up. The basic track break down is as follows:
[Ringo] Drum - Track 1
[George] Vocal - Track 2
[Paul] Guitar - Track 3
[George] Piano - Track 4
They then recorded more overdubs including the bass and a guitar doubling some licks. Ringo also provided some rim stick tapping which accentuated the bassline. Along with that George, Paul, and John recorded a new set of vocals. George stood in the corner of the studio away from the mic to achieve the mic sound found in the final recording. George also double tracked his vocals in places. Paul and John's backing vocals were also distorted by engineer Jeff Jarratt. The same day track break down is as follows:
[George, Paul, Ringo] Track 6 - Bass and guitar stick taps
[John, Paul, George] Replaced track 2 (solo section yells) - Lead and harmony
[John, Paul, George] Tack 5 - “Double tracked lead” and additional Harmony
Two days later on April 18th George recorded three more parts. The organ and a guitar solo which he double tracked. The track break down is as follows:
Track 8 - Organ
Track 7 - One Guitar Solo
Possible Track 5 or 2 - Second Guitar Solo
Now Old Brown Shoe is a very contested Beatles song due to the lineup being unclear. After looking over session times, listening to some Get Back sessions, and analyzing take 2 I've come to the conclusion that the basic track most likely consisted of George on piano, Ringo on drums, and Paul on guitar.
The main thing keeping Ringo out of the picture was his filming of The Magic Christian. But after looking at the session times I've concluded he definitely could've made it. Most of the sessions during the filming were done during the weekends with five major exceptions. The "Ballad of John and Yoko" session on Monday April 14th [2:30pm - 7pm] , the "Old Brown Shoe" session of April 16th [7pm - 2:45am] and 18th [7pm - 4:30am], an "Octopus's Garden" session on Tuesday April 29th [7:30pm - 1am], and the "Something" recording session on Friday May 2nd [7pm - 3:40am]. The "Something" and "Octopus's Garden" sessions show that Ringo could be present for weekday sessions they just had to be in the late evening. The reason Paul stood in on drums for "The Ballad of John and Yoko" was because the session took place in the afternoon so Ringo would've still been filming. Because the Get Back sessions show an almost identical drum pattern compared to the master I think it's most likely Ringo.
When it comes to who played bass the answer lies more in who would've overdubbed the guitar. A new guitar part doubling some licks was recorded at the same time as the bass and stick tapping onto track 6. George said in an 1987 interview, "That was me going nuts...doing exactly what I do on guitar,". So the bass was probably played by George. With the guitarist staying consistent meaning Paul played guitar again for this overdub along with the basic track.
Some of these isolations have bleed from other tracks. The organ and guitar solos especially made their way onto a lot of them. So if I can get better isolations in the future I will update this video. The drums are also mixed slightly wider.
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Intro (0:00)
Drums [Basic Track - Track 1] (0:58)
Piano/Guitar [Basic Track - Track 3/4] (4:07)
Piano [Basic Track - Tack 4] (7:22)
Bass [Same day overdubs - Track 6] (10:36)
Guitar [Same day overdubs - Track 6] (13:53)
Stick Taps [Same day overdubs - Track 6] (15:12)
Vocals [Same day overdubs - Track 2/5] (18:19)
Guitar solo [April 18th Overdubs - Track 7/5] (21:28)
Organ [April 18th Overdubs - Track 8] (21:42)
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Most likely lineup:
George Harrison - Lead Vocals, Piano (1964 Challen "Jangle Box" upright 681834), Lead Guitar (1968 Fender Rosewood Telecaster), Organ (Hammond RT-3), Bass (Fender Jazz or Fender VI)
Paul McCartney - Guitar (1962 Epiphone ES-230TD Casino), Backing Vocals
John Lennon - Backing Vocals
Ringo Starr - Drums (1968 Ludwig Hollywood Maple)
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Alternate lineup if Ringo couldn't make the session:
George Harrison - Lead Vocals, Piano, Lead Gutiar Solo, Organ, Bass?
Paul McCartney - Backing Vocals, Drums, Bass?
John Lennon - Backing Vocals, Guitar
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Ringo's drumming is rock solid
Paul is on drums here, lol. It's seems to be a pretty hot debate, though I have no clue why. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Ringo wasn't there. John and Paul, alone, recorded the ballad of John and Yoko just 2 days before the Old Browne Shoe session. Paul played drums on that one because Ringo was, guess what? Away filming the Magic Christian. George wasn't even at the session. It's seems only logical to assume that he wasn't wrapping up filming 2 days later and back home ready to record.
@@overjoyousdefinitely not Paul. That’s 100% ringo drumming
@@overjoyous The Ballad of John and Yoko session took place from 2:30pm - 7pm which was during when Ringo was filming. But there are other weekday sessions during this time that Ringo was 100% in. These took place after 7pm, so Ringo could make sessions during the filming they just had to be evening sessions. George did show up earlier on April 16th at 2pm to record a demo of Old Brown Shoe in anticipation of the start of the session at 7pm. So it seemed like George waited until 7pm to start recording the song when the whole group could be there. He could've started earlier but waited until 7pm. The Magic Christian theory is a good one that I'm now a little skeptical on after looking at other sessions during that period. If we could get a filming schedule it would help prove if Ringo could actually show up to the sessions, but all we have now is other sessions during the same period which do show Ringo could show up for evening sessions.
Technically, Paul was not able to play this drum part.
I never believed the Paul on drums theory haha. There’s a fill in there that’s exactly the same as Tell Me Why, it’s almost a fingerprint match
Henry , I agree! I said the same thing about the Tell Me Why comparison
Agree. Ringo keeps impeccable time.
Amazing! Never heard such a detailed deconstruction of the song before. And that bass part definitely sounds like the Bass VI, so I'm going to say it's George on bass.
Absolutely love the isolated vocals. You can hear stuff never heard before
Fascinating, thank you so much for posting and the photos are brilliant 💚💚
I am glad to see after all these years, some of the theories about who played what on some Beatles songs are starting to be solved. If George played all that it says he is playing in this video then wow wait ago Georgie. No one can beat Paul in the fact that he can legit play everything, but George certainly was a multi-instrumentalist when he wanted to be as well.
Thanks @HJCorn909 for saying it first. Yeah I'd say it was most likely John on organ. There is a photo from the April 18th session with John standing behind an organ and George on his rosewood telecaster, which is the exact guitar he used for the guitar solo, which was also overdubbed on that day. Another photo that was taken around the same time as the last photo shows him standing behind the same organ with headphones on, signaling that he must of been recording something. Plus the fact by the April 18th sessions, all the other three Beatles had their hands full with the song while John had only contributed backing vocals, so makes sense why they'd let him do the organ, just to have a bigger part in the song.
Best one I've heard for this song, keep killing it 🤟
There's a photo from the Solo and Organ dub session that shows John on Organ and George on the Rosewood Tele, making John the organ player on the song. Still a great video
No it’s George on organ. John would have struggled with many of the chord changes
Killer bassline
One the Beatles hidden gems
リンゴのビートが素晴らし過ぎる
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Thank god is Ringo. If was Paul on Drums, my life would be a Lie.
Again, a lot of Beatles information is debated. Even with the Beatles' channel giving credits to who did which (with the most recent info), many people will refute the official source's explanation with (from what I've seen) their own theories. I'm in the camp of Paul drumming here, where many people shoot that down.
@@SekaohPaul cannot shuffle especially at this speed and those fills are 100% ringo fills
Paul don't swing!
@@Sekaoh the “Ringo was away filming the Magic Christian” theory doesn’t hold up. It was only being filmed in Twickenham, which is less than an hour away by rail from Abbey Road. Plus, they didn’t shoot on evenings and weekends. Also, in Get Back, we see an early version of the song being rehearsed. Paul can be seen struggling with the beat while Ringo quickly nails it.
Came here for the drums!
How’d you isolate these so cleanly?
Atmos and anthology 5.1 mixes
Is it really clear that George is playing bass on this? It is extremely dexterous for someone who is not a regular bass player. I know he plays very nice bass on some other tracks but this one is really demanding
Ability wise both George and Paul could play this bass guitar part no problem. With clearer isolations from Atmos mix the bass guitar tone sounds like Paul's Rickenbacker with tapewound strings to me.
@@gilasspit’s George on the Bass VI
Don’t underestimate guitar players, some of em can destroy on bass
I think john could have played Organ or one of the guitars tbh
George definitely played the organ overdub. But it is possible John played guitar instead of Paul. I just think it's Paul because of the reason in the video.
These are always fun to watch and listen to but could you slow down the words please I have to keep backing it up and I've got a piece of crap phone.
Yeah I thought they were moved too fast as well. I'll slow them down if I do something like that in the future.
@@isolatedstems Ok thanks. I always wondered what John said in the middle of this song and now since I heard the vocal only after all these decades now I know. (WRONG GUITAR)
Kenneth Womack confirmed that Mal Evans on his 16 April 1969 diary entry has George on piano, Ringo on drums and John on guitar.
On that same day he has Paul on bass.
Can I get a link? I'm scouring the book and internet, but can't find anything on it.
Idk about that last part. I think Paul played the rhythm. I feel like John would struggle with many of the chord changes, plus the bridge riff requires a lot of technical skill that John sometimes lacked.
@@Henry3Studiosjohn is so underrated on guitar. I don’t think he would struggle in here.
@@JoaoGabriel-lk9cvwell he wasn’t contributing much to George’s songs around this time. Also beginning around TWA John would leave the more technical stuff to George or Paul
@@isolatedstemssent you an email
Nice, especially Ringo's drums. Cue: ruclips.net/video/NEOHFbhWiG0/видео.htmlsi=-7sjZhjcyJcxOOj5 😩
I never believed the Paul theory haha