Marco Polo. I can't believe a ship of her acclaim and historic level didn't end up saved. She won so many battles I hate to see her lose. A hotel ship somewhere...
@@Pullisto Agree. Possibility one of the most beautiful of all the cruise ships built in the last 70 years. But so many guests want all the sophisticated entertainments and facilities such as cabin balconies these days. I guess we all eventually end up in the 'breaker's yard' at the end of our lives, but it seems so sad to see ships heading for the scrapyard.
I like the models behind you on the shelf. I Actually saw the QE2 in Grey with Red in Boston in the mid 80's. I still also have the same QE2 model you have behind you on the shelf. Long live QE2!
@@cassy272 She is being refitted in Montenegro at the moment and we have booked three cruises on her. A lot of the old CMV passengers have waited patiently and with anticipation and are supporting Ambassador in its new venture. I was suppose to be going to St Petersburg on Marco Polo in May 2021, but now I'm going on Ambience in July 2022! Can't wait!
I hate the fact Marco Polo is going to become Toyotas and razors. She is one of the last ocean liners afloat next to Astoria. And she was the last Soviet-built ocean liner. I was so happy to see her go to Dubai to become a hotel but then I heard they backed out and she will be heading to Alang, I freaked out. The fact a historical vessel like her can't be saved is just sad and we have to stick around with these floating boxes. The grand old lady lived a happy life though, a happy and long life that we will all remember. Just such a shame she couldn't be saved.
You are very Knowledgeable Chris, you know your ship histories. I worked on several of these ships over the years but the one that really hurts is the Marco Polo. One of the last classic proper ships. I worked aboard for almost a year in 1995/6. I was really hoping this one would somehow be saved. Very sad.
Hi Chris, I have enjoyed your videos since joining your channel last March. Very very informative. Sad to learn of how many ships are going off line. Maybe time to slow new builds down until the market opens. I have seen a few of these in post in FLA over the years but never have been able to afford the cruise myself. I enjoy reading the brochures and now via your channel to explore a ship and or voyage of the past. hey, keep up your great work and if you get to Boston, MA on a cruise let me know. Someday I hope to save enough to go on a cruise. Dave
Thank you for your update! I feel a part of my life was taken from me . As a rep for RCCL, i started a travel agent program aboard "Soveriegn of the Sea", Sad!! Lets pray Empress and Majesty of the Seas, continues, two incrediable ships , beautifully designed , well liked , which i hope all have sailed. "Empress of the Seas" has been the best!! This ship made RCCL. Randy Barnes, Palm Springs, Ca.
Very sad news! Especially the beautiful classic ships of CMV. I had a wonderful cruise with Costa Victoria 2 years ago. I enjoyed my breakfast on the big aft deck.
I never sailed on the Marco Polo and Astor but we had three lovely cruises on Magellan and were due to sail on the Amy Johnson, ex Pacific Dawn in May. So sad about all this.
@Erina Nagasawa either a floating hotel or if she was to be scrapped, Turkey would have been a better place where there wouldn't be pollution in the water and perhaps s more responsible scrapping yard
Thomson Celebration was the first me and my partner went on to celebrate her birthday. It hurts so much to see what has happened. I do hope cruising starts again soon.
Thanks for the interesting video. Yes the cruise industry is in big trouble worldwide and there will be no form of recovery until at least 2022. My country alone 🇨🇦 has banned any cruises arriving until the end of 2021. - that includes all Alaska cruises from Victoria and Vancouver BC.
It seems strange that just 25 years ago a 70,000 gross ton ship was amongst the biggest afloat. These days a ship that size is considered rather small.
@@Rainbowrobb "Virgin Whatsit". The ugliest cruise ship I've ever seen ! It resembles a "wedge shoe". Now, who would want to cruise in a shoe ??? Not me... 🤣 🇳🇴
So sad to see these fine ships go to breakers. They looked like ships and gave millions of passengers fond memories. The new ships of today will never have the same individual charm. All we will have left now is our memories of the golden age of cruising and so many fine ships which served us all so well!
It's sad to see the demise of the older and IMHO more graceful ships while so many really ugly looking cruise ships remain (e.g. P&Os Azura and Ventura). However, I guess it's a response to the current demand and the demand for increasingly sophisticated onboard facilities. I love cruising, but am very reluctant to get onboard a ship until the pandemic is well and truly over. I was ill for several weeks after our last two Cunard cruises (Christmas 2018 and 2019) - not with Covid 19, tummy bugs on both occasions, but it demonstrates just how easy it for viruses and other bugs to spread onboard ship. I was just 11 years old when I first saw the Alexander Pushkin (CMV Marco Polo) at Tilbury, London and I'm now 66!
Ambassador cruise line bought Pacific jewel and now she sails on as Ambience I to am very fond of the two but I guess karnika was in rough shape ..but at least one was saved
Such a shame to hear about CMV, I went to Russia on the Marco Polo, it was old, but a really beautiful ship. A couple of years later, I went to Norway on Magellan and I understand that's been scrapped too. How sad.
It's getting rediculous at this point about old/classic ships getting scrapped and more modern/ugly looking ships being built. It's like 2 kids fighting over something. Any news on the MV Astoria (Stockholm)?
It’s sad because so many of these older ships are so much more comfortable than the new & crowded mega ships. The new ships are bigger but often have less public space than the new ones and also the cabins on the new ships are very la king on space.
Carnica - I hope I have spelled this right- was never AIDAblu, as you have stated in this video. AIDAblu was build for AIDA at the Meyer Werft, delivered in February 2010 and has this typical Thertrium, a distinctive feature no other line has on any of its ships.
"used for accomodation". Does this mean that the scrapyard bought the ship for scrap, but instead of selling the steel, decides to keep ship whole as a accomodation block? Just curious on whether it is a one way trip where the ship can never sail again and becomes "landlocked" like the Queen Mary in Long beach.
I too am a little upset about Karnika aka Pacific Jewel being sold for scrap as that was my first ever cruise ship I went on and gave me the cruise bug. I am sad that cruising has been paused (which is understandable) and hoping our October cruise will still go ahead.......maybe
have often been described as 'floating cities', and as groups have pointed out that they are just as if not more polluting. A passenger's carbon footprint triples in size when taking a and the emissions produced can contribute to serious health issues. I really havent got too many problems with getting rid of quite a few of them
Hello! I do have closed captions there. They should work - just tested them. The automatically generated French captions were gibberish and I’ve deleted these.
We should be looking at repurposing these for Naval Auxiliaries , military accommodation. Look at the role both the he QE2 and Canberra played in 1982 .The Government has announced a multi billion package to revitalise our ports and shipbuilding , this could be the opportunity . They are being scrapped at the breakers near Atatürk , Aliaga Izmir in the North West of the Ismuth at 38.8301234 , 26.9303894 , where it appears that one or 2 may be undergoing repurposing , probably for the Turkish Navy .
A bit sad with so many ships being scrapped many that we sailed on 2006 Pacific Star 2007 Pacific Star scrapped 2011 Pacific Jewel 2013 Dawn Princess later to become Pacific Explorer 2014 Regal Princess lovely ship was only months old 2015 Pacific Jewel has this been scrapped ? 2023 RC Brilliance of the seas 2024 Pacific Explorer dec 2024 possible scrapped or sold
Shipbreakers use up oxygen to cut the steel. It should cease immediately and the oxygen provided to the poorest families fighting to breathe due to endemic COVID-19.
You know if people were kind of smart about it and man might came out way ahead if you would just strip the propulsions anchors and things like that the majority part the commercial kitchens and things like that and just sit in the port for homelessness for the homeless I mean if you really think about it the electrical generation plan on that alone would generate millions of dollars of income per month supplying basic electricity in the cities in the condo possibilities
These cruise ships offer the very worst kind of communal holiday. Disease and illness is always rife. The closeness of human smell like toilet use, farts, bad breath, body odour & poor hygiene is much the same as the classic all inclusive hotel ie pretty awful. Now that the cruise (disease and illness) industry has finished most will end up on the Bangladeshi beaches broken up which is the very best thing for them..
Which of these cruise ships are you going to miss most?
Pacific Dawn for me. My first journey to sea cruising out of Brisbane. A week to Vanuatu and Noumea with my daughter and it was wonderful
The Grand Celebration
Marco Polo. I can't believe a ship of her acclaim and historic level didn't end up saved. She won so many battles I hate to see her lose. A hotel ship somewhere...
Astor. Great little ship, sorry to see her go, but she was a bit long in the tooth...
@@Pullisto Agree. Possibility one of the most beautiful of all the cruise ships built in the last 70 years. But so many guests want all the sophisticated entertainments and facilities such as cabin balconies these days. I guess we all eventually end up in the 'breaker's yard' at the end of our lives, but it seems so sad to see ships heading for the scrapyard.
Thanks for the update. Farewell Marco Polo. A memorable 25th wedding anniversary cruise around Norway will remain very special.
I like the models behind you on the shelf. I Actually saw the QE2 in Grey with Red in Boston in the mid 80's. I still also have the same QE2 model you have behind you on the shelf. Long live QE2!
Good update Chris, history and background really makes it hit home.
I was on one of the last cruises on the Pacific Dawn. Had so much fun and it was my first cruise. Sad to hear she's being scrapped :(
Holy moly, I didn't expect to find you here.
Pacific Dawn is now Ambassador Ambience. We are sailing on her on April 6th 2022.
@@sheilasloan im full of envy!
@@cassy272 She is being refitted in Montenegro at the moment and we have booked three cruises on her. A lot of the old CMV passengers have waited patiently and with anticipation and are supporting Ambassador in its new venture. I was suppose to be going to St Petersburg on Marco Polo in May 2021, but now I'm going on Ambience in July 2022! Can't wait!
I hate the fact Marco Polo is going to become Toyotas and razors. She is one of the last ocean liners afloat next to Astoria. And she was the last Soviet-built ocean liner. I was so happy to see her go to Dubai to become a hotel but then I heard they backed out and she will be heading to Alang, I freaked out. The fact a historical vessel like her can't be saved is just sad and we have to stick around with these floating boxes. The grand old lady lived a happy life though, a happy and long life that we will all remember. Just such a shame she couldn't be saved.
You are very Knowledgeable Chris, you know your ship histories. I worked on several of these ships over the years but the one that really hurts is the Marco Polo. One of the last classic proper ships. I worked aboard for almost a year in 1995/6. I was really hoping this one would somehow be saved. Very sad.
I like the nautical theme in the background.
Very nice touch for your videos. ❤️
Hi Chris, I have enjoyed your videos since joining your channel last March. Very very informative. Sad to learn of how many ships are going off line. Maybe time to slow new builds down until the market opens. I have seen a few of these in post in FLA over the years but never have been able to afford the cruise myself. I enjoy reading the brochures and now via your channel to explore a ship and or voyage of the past. hey, keep up your great work and if you get to Boston, MA on a cruise let me know. Someday I hope to save enough to go on a cruise. Dave
Thanks so much for the kind words Dave!
The Carnival Fantasy and the Ecstasy were my first two cruises. A great time in my life, but almost 30 years ago.
Thank you for your update! I feel a part of my life was taken from me . As a rep for RCCL, i started a travel agent program aboard "Soveriegn of the Sea", Sad!! Lets pray Empress and Majesty of the Seas, continues, two incrediable ships , beautifully designed , well liked , which i hope all have sailed. "Empress of the Seas" has been the best!! This ship made RCCL.
Randy Barnes, Palm Springs, Ca.
Very sad news! Especially the beautiful classic ships of CMV. I had a wonderful cruise with Costa Victoria 2 years ago. I enjoyed my breakfast on the big aft deck.
Scrapping of Marco Polo broke my heart. I really wanted to sail on her, even if the tickets were usually ridiculously overpriced.
Me, too. I loved the Marco Polo.
I had my first cruise with my family on the Carnival Celebration which became the Grand Celebration. back in 2005.
I never sailed on the Marco Polo and Astor but we had three lovely cruises on Magellan and were due to sail on the Amy Johnson, ex Pacific Dawn in May. So sad about all this.
"Amy Johnson' is sailing again as Ambassador's Ambience - April 6th 2022.
Great show
Multiple Antarctic trips on MP, Amazon, etc etc. Haven't been on her in years but docked right behind her in Stavanger 3 years ago. Grand old lady.
So sad I worked 4 contracts on Marco Polo, Saw the world, Thank you Marco Polo for a lifetime of memories.
How sad the end for the Marco Polo, I worked there for 1 contract and it was an impressive ship. She deserved a better resting place than Alang
@Erina Nagasawa either a floating hotel or if she was to be scrapped, Turkey would have been a better place where there wouldn't be pollution in the water and perhaps s more responsible scrapping yard
@Erina Nagasawa that I'm very well aware, but it could been spared
Thomson Celebration was the first me and my partner went on to celebrate her birthday. It hurts so much to see what has happened. I do hope cruising starts again soon.
The scrapping of the Maro Polo was very sad for me ;-(
Marco.........
Polo.......
I loved Marco Polo.
A beatiful ship. 🚢
They don't make ships like that anymore.
Nowadays they build "dolphins".
Posing as cruise ships.... 😂
Love from Norway 🇳🇴
Always informative Chris and I enjoy the way you weave in the history so effortlessly. Such a sad state of affairs to see Marco Polo go.
Thanks for the interesting video. Yes the cruise industry is in big trouble worldwide and there will be no form of recovery until at least 2022. My country alone 🇨🇦 has banned any cruises arriving until the end of 2021. - that includes all Alaska cruises from Victoria and Vancouver BC.
It seems strange that just 25 years ago a 70,000 gross ton ship was amongst the biggest afloat. These days a ship that size is considered rather small.
I know!! And to think the 70,000 ton ships were around double the size of the ones they replaced. Remarkable how things have changed!
Sadly, new ones look just like floating buses. They will never have the beauty of a converted ocean liner
@@Rainbowrobb
"Virgin Whatsit".
The ugliest cruise ship I've ever seen !
It resembles a "wedge shoe".
Now, who would want to cruise in a shoe ???
Not me... 🤣 🇳🇴
The Pacific dawn narrowly avoided scrapping and is now the ambience for ambassador cruises
my first cruise was on pullmantur sovereign (sovereign of the seas) and the first they scrapped
So sad to see these fine ships go to breakers. They looked like ships and gave millions of passengers fond memories. The new ships of today will never have the same individual charm. All we will have left now is our memories of the golden age of cruising and so many fine ships which served us all so well!
It's sad to see the demise of the older and IMHO more graceful ships while so many really ugly looking cruise ships remain (e.g. P&Os Azura and Ventura). However, I guess it's a response to the current demand and the demand for increasingly sophisticated onboard facilities. I love cruising, but am very reluctant to get onboard a ship until the pandemic is well and truly over. I was ill for several weeks after our last two Cunard cruises (Christmas 2018 and 2019) - not with Covid 19, tummy bugs on both occasions, but it demonstrates just how easy it for viruses and other bugs to spread onboard ship. I was just 11 years old when I first saw the Alexander Pushkin (CMV Marco Polo) at Tilbury, London and I'm now 66!
Carnival fascination has now been sold for scrap in alang, India ;(
black watch was my first cruise may 2015
Ambassador cruise line bought Pacific jewel and now she sails on as Ambience I to am very fond of the two but I guess karnika was in rough shape ..but at least one was saved
You missed out one of the best cruise ships. M.V Colombus, operated by CMV. What a great ship, was beached at Alang in 2021
Such a shame to hear about CMV, I went to Russia on the Marco Polo, it was old, but a really beautiful ship. A couple of years later, I went to Norway on Magellan and I understand that's been scrapped too. How sad.
Excellent
It's getting rediculous at this point about old/classic ships getting scrapped and more modern/ugly looking ships being built. It's like 2 kids fighting over something.
Any news on the MV Astoria (Stockholm)?
Sad to say its my 1st and last working on JALESH KARNIKA. Great people to work with.
It’s sad because so many of these older ships are so much more comfortable than the new & crowded mega ships. The new ships are bigger but often have less public space than the new ones and also the cabins on the new ships are very la king on space.
Carnica - I hope I have spelled this right- was never AIDAblu, as you have stated in this video. AIDAblu was build for AIDA at the Meyer Werft, delivered in February 2010 and has this typical Thertrium, a distinctive feature no other line has on any of its ships.
She was AidaBlu for a brief period. The current AidaBlu is the second to wear that name.
Yesterday it was announced that the Magellan is also going to be scrapped
Sad. I went to Norway on Magellan. Nice ship, CMV hadn't had it long.
All good things come to an end, happy to see these hulks get recycled into something which is now required.
So sad for marco polo ,but thanks for golden memories,i'm the one of the crew 1999🇵🇭
Did you mention that several of the older ships were replaced with newer ones?
"used for accomodation". Does this mean that the scrapyard bought the ship for scrap, but instead of selling the steel, decides to keep ship whole as a accomodation block? Just curious on whether it is a one way trip where the ship can never sail again and becomes "landlocked" like the Queen Mary in Long beach.
I too am a little upset about Karnika aka Pacific Jewel being sold for scrap as that was my first ever cruise ship I went on and gave me the cruise bug. I am sad that cruising has been paused (which is understandable) and hoping our October cruise will still go ahead.......maybe
I hear the former Stockholm may be meeting it's end unless a buyer can be found
have often been described as 'floating cities', and as groups have pointed out that they are just as if not more polluting. A passenger's carbon footprint triples in size when taking a and the emissions produced can contribute to serious health issues. I really havent got too many problems with getting rid of quite a few of them
I miss marco polo
What price per ton do these ships sell for into the scrap/salvage market?
Well this is depressing. Very sad.
The Pacific Jewel will be dearly missed 😔
nice video
Might have been interesting if you'd bothered to set up the closed captioning correctly. As it is, I caught not a word.
Hello! I do have closed captions there. They should work - just tested them. The automatically generated French captions were gibberish and I’ve deleted these.
Which cruise lines will go under in 2021? Surely they can’t keep this going. ☹️
Yes what about Bahamas Paradise in Florida
questionably if any cruises happen in 2021
what prices did they fetch at auction by the Turkey scrap people?
Does anyone have news about ships going to junkyard nowadays?????
I enjoy news
Last I hear was old song of America
Boudicca was scrapped sadly
CRUISE Industry in the trouble
#shipping_inbox
any ideas what these scrapper paid at auction for these ships ?
$400.00 a ton.
aweful things i love them going to the breakers
What kind of money do they get for these scrap ships?
But how much do they make for scraping one of these ships
Scrapping.
We should be looking at repurposing these for Naval Auxiliaries , military accommodation. Look at the role both the he QE2 and Canberra played in 1982 .The Government has announced a multi billion package to revitalise our ports and shipbuilding , this could be the opportunity .
They are being scrapped at the breakers near Atatürk , Aliaga Izmir in the North West of the Ismuth at 38.8301234 , 26.9303894 , where it appears that one or 2 may be undergoing repurposing , probably for the Turkish Navy .
Sorry Pacific Dawn not jewel got saved the twin to karnika .
Happy none of the Disney ships are going!
i hope someone starts a ship-sinking cruise
7:47 "So, that was depressing." No, it was not. I absolutely hate this industry and I hope in time it's gone for good.
Hello,
I want to repurpose these ships as college dorms. Do you have contacts you can share?
my dream has always been to sail on ships from 1980s to 2000s and not on a bathtub,well i guess i shouldnt be disrespectful
A bit sad with so many ships being scrapped many that we sailed on
2006 Pacific Star
2007 Pacific Star scrapped
2011 Pacific Jewel
2013 Dawn Princess later to become Pacific Explorer
2014 Regal Princess lovely ship was only months old
2015 Pacific Jewel has this been scrapped ?
2023 RC Brilliance of the seas
2024 Pacific Explorer dec 2024 possible scrapped or sold
China will turn them into troop carriers n AC carriers.......😅😂🤣
Astoria 😢
This is crazy .billions lost. Wasted...
Is that where dawn n jewel went too, so sad.. they could of made them rooms to rent for the poor
Yes sadly Jewel is already beached and Dawn is on her way to the same end.
Pacific Dawn is now Ambassador Ambience. We are sailing on her on April 6th 2022.
The Marco Polo Bridge, was in Mint condition, but the japanese blew a hole in it. Oh, wait...
we have a housing shortage so why not harbor them and rent out rooms.
I don't think i can bear to watch the Marco polo beached.
I feel you man, it's such a shame. I saw a picture of her on the beach and it was just heartbreaking. A piece of history turned to waste.
Just so sad watching her being taken apart.
Water world..its a sin to scrap them.
Sad also to think they will end up in a notorious Indian ship wrecking beach with all the associated horrors. A grubby business all round.
Shipbreakers use up oxygen to cut the steel. It should cease immediately and the oxygen provided to the poorest families fighting to breathe due to endemic COVID-19.
The best use of these monstrosities is a fish hotel.
GOOD RIDDANCE! The world does'nt need more pollution for the amusement of a few.
Absolutely. Bloody things are an ugly abomination. Full of fat lazy ....
You know if people were kind of smart about it and man might came out way ahead if you would just strip the propulsions anchors and things like that the majority part the commercial kitchens and things like that and just sit in the port for homelessness for the homeless I mean if you really think about it the electrical generation plan on that alone would generate millions of dollars of income per month supplying basic electricity in the cities in the condo possibilities
Turn them into floating hotels................
sold for scrap or being converted to prison ships ?
Scrap.
This means we Will miss some beautifull ships with memories.
Meanwhile new ones will show up summer 2021
shame they scrap these ships..could maybe be used for accomodation for refugees ?
too expensive to maintain, especially for people who are not paying their own way.
Donate them to homeless people
What a waste.
Well, you see, only wealthy people should be allowed tour about the world on cruise ships. All of us middle class pukes can take staycations.
Now they should scrap the rest of them.
They are only vomitoriums and petri dishes for so many bad bugs.
These cruise ships offer the very worst kind of communal holiday. Disease and illness is always rife.
The closeness of human smell like toilet use, farts, bad breath, body odour & poor hygiene is much the same as the classic all inclusive hotel ie pretty awful.
Now that the cruise (disease and illness) industry has finished most will end up on the Bangladeshi beaches broken up which is the very best thing for them..
OLD NEWS. Let's move on.
Sadly there’s probably going to be plenty more to discuss in 2021 🥺
To be fair it has only been a few hours since the last ship was beached and a number of those mentioned have ended their days in the last 15 days...