Yes, on QE2 after one of her "shakedown" cruises after her regular services.I also went from Liverpool to Lagos in 1965 on the MV Aureol the flagship of Elder Dempster line. She was only 14,000 tonnes.
Interestingly the SS. France didn’t originally feature many of the elements that ultimately made her a successful cruise ship. When Knut Kloster bought the France people thought he was mad, but the refurbishment in Bremerhaven effectively transformed her into a dual purpose design that was then almost exclusively used for cruising. The addition of the outdoor entertainment areas, enhancement of interior spaces for cruising and addition of the big tender boats made it possible for her to effectively operate in the cruise market.
Next week I am boarding the QM2 for a Westbound Crossing. Last January I was aboard HAL Oosterdam when we rounded Cape Horn and crossed the Drake Passage
I was lucky enough to experience six voyages between England and South Africa aboard various union-castle liners. On one occasion we transited the Bay of Biscay during wind force 9 conditions.... No reduction of speed was required, we maintained a steady 22knots!
Ok so all the so called “youtube ocean liner experts” should sub and watch how an actual pro explains this.. well done Chris. A little corner of actual insight on the web!
That was some nice timing releasing this, I'm on QM2 next week! and was on one of the many in existence Grand classes you featured on this video (Azura) last month. So will be a great back to back comparison for me to experience.
Excellent video. My very first voyage when i was a young boy was on Oriana (1960) on a three weeks Christmas cruise to Hawaii. She was a very fast Ocean liner and on those long distances at sea she would often reach speeds of 27 knots. I also travelled on the Canberra to Hong Kong Queen Elizabeth 2 from New York to Sydney and Queen Mary 2 from Fremantle. All were amazing ships and travelling on Ocean liners was a very special experience.
@@ChrisFrameOfficial I went through heavy seas on the QE2 and the Canberra, Both ships handled these conditions very well. On the voyage I did on Canberra, QE2 and Canberra were docked side by side at the Ocean Terminal in Hong Kong. They looked impressive together. My personal favourite of the two ships to travel on was the QE2.
Excellent video and explanation. We briefly spoke on QM2 in Illuminations a few years ago, it was a pleasure to meet you. Time and time again I am confronted with "but I sailed on a liner" (when it was only a cruise ship). Now I will send them the link to your superb video with its explanation, thank you.
I propose that qe2 & qm2 are cruise liners. A hybrid of a liner and cruise ship. Built to liner standards but with accommodations and resort features of a cruise ship. This can make for a more pleasant experience for passengers.
Merci votre vidéo est très clair et concis, une grande qualité de communication. Je fantasme au sujet d'une traversée transatlantique sur le QM2 avec mon épouse (qui ne se doute de rien) et mes grands enfants et mon petit-fils (tout neuf, cuvée 2024). En attendant l'occasion je regarde des kilomètres de vidéos YT sur QM2.
I hope the Astoria is saved. 🥺 I have mostly traveled on Baltic ferries and I don't think they qualify as ocean liners. They look more like cruise ships, even though they kind of do the job of a liner. I once took a round trip around Gran Canaria. I don't think that was an ocean liner either. That ship just went all around Gran Canaria and nowhere else. (I don't know the name of that ship because it was before I cared about things like that).
I already knew the question and I knew the answer which is that an ocean liner is a vessel that is designed to handle crossings across a vast ocean like the Atlantic or the Pacific where is the cruise liner is only designed to handle which called safe and light Harbor type of operations she will only cruise in which Cole safe waters if you ask the cruise liner to cross Atlantic Ocean to be asking for the risk a lot the love boat could never survive in Electra Crossing
"Have you ever tralled on an Ocean Liner?" QM2 15 crossings and cruises (and another crossing booked) QE2 cruise. QE and QV cruises. 20 voyages with Cunard in total.
So now you know the difference, have you ever travelled on an Ocean Liner?
Yes. QE2 and QM2.
Yes. I was on board when QM2 made her 400th Transatlantic Crossing 😊
Yes, on QE2 after one of her "shakedown" cruises after her regular services.I also went from Liverpool to Lagos in 1965 on the MV Aureol the flagship of Elder Dempster line.
She was only 14,000 tonnes.
Yes! And you were onboard (Mar 23).
Thank you - I have travelled on both QE2 and QM2
Good choices!
Happily the first comment on this fine video! Your channel is improving daily. Video and sound greatly improved and fantastic story telling.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Great video! I'd really like to see Astoria sail again.
You and me both!
And the SS France was a dual purpose liner, which made it an attractive option for NCL.
Interestingly the SS. France didn’t originally feature many of the elements that ultimately made her a successful cruise ship. When Knut Kloster bought the France people thought he was mad, but the refurbishment in Bremerhaven effectively transformed her into a dual purpose design that was then almost exclusively used for cruising. The addition of the outdoor entertainment areas, enhancement of interior spaces for cruising and addition of the big tender boats made it possible for her to effectively operate in the cruise market.
Next week I am boarding the QM2 for a Westbound Crossing. Last January I was aboard HAL Oosterdam when we rounded Cape Horn and crossed the Drake Passage
Have a lovely voyage. Take good care of her for us.
Have a great trip!!
Best video on this topic I've seen so far. Well done!
Wow, thanks so much for the positive feedback.
I was lucky enough to experience six voyages between England and South Africa aboard various union-castle liners. On one occasion we transited the Bay of Biscay during wind force 9 conditions.... No reduction of speed was required, we maintained a steady 22knots!
Those were proper ships!! 🚢 🚢
If I was ever lucky enough to do a transatlantic crossing, the only ship I would consider would be QM2. I've never sailed on a liner.
Ok so all the so called “youtube ocean liner experts” should sub and watch how an actual pro explains this.. well done Chris. A little corner of actual insight on the web!
That was some nice timing releasing this, I'm on QM2 next week! and was on one of the many in existence Grand classes you featured on this video (Azura) last month. So will be a great back to back comparison for me to experience.
That's awesome!
Excellent video.
My very first voyage when i was a young boy was on Oriana (1960) on a three weeks Christmas cruise to Hawaii.
She was a very fast Ocean liner and on those long distances at sea she would often reach speeds of 27 knots.
I also travelled on the Canberra to Hong Kong Queen Elizabeth 2 from New York to Sydney and Queen Mary 2 from Fremantle.
All were amazing ships and travelling on Ocean liners was a very special experience.
Thanks for sharing! Those voyages sound amazing! It must have been interesting to compare Canberra and QE2!
@@ChrisFrameOfficial I went through heavy seas on the QE2 and the Canberra,
Both ships handled these conditions very well. On the voyage I did on Canberra, QE2 and Canberra were docked side by side at the Ocean Terminal in Hong Kong. They looked impressive together.
My personal favourite of the two ships to travel on was the QE2.
Amazing video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video Chris! thanks!!!
Excellent video and explanation. We briefly spoke on QM2 in Illuminations a few years ago, it was a pleasure to meet you.
Time and time again I am confronted with "but I sailed on a liner" (when it was only a cruise ship). Now I will send them the link to your superb video with its explanation, thank you.
I propose that qe2 & qm2 are cruise liners. A hybrid of a liner and cruise ship. Built to liner standards but with accommodations and resort features of a cruise ship. This can make for a more pleasant experience for passengers.
So informative and good to know the facts
Thank you John!
Merci votre vidéo est très clair et concis, une grande qualité de communication. Je fantasme au sujet d'une traversée transatlantique sur le QM2 avec mon épouse (qui ne se doute de rien) et mes grands enfants et mon petit-fils (tout neuf, cuvée 2024). En attendant l'occasion je regarde des kilomètres de vidéos YT sur QM2.
I hope the Astoria is saved. 🥺 I have mostly traveled on Baltic ferries and I don't think they qualify as ocean liners. They look more like cruise ships, even though they kind of do the job of a liner. I once took a round trip around Gran Canaria. I don't think that was an ocean liner either. That ship just went all around Gran Canaria and nowhere else. (I don't know the name of that ship because it was before I cared about things like that).
Ooh now Ferries are a fascinating story too! I’ll have to share it sometime. We researched them in depth for our book.
@@ChrisFrameOfficial OK, cool. Thanks. 🙂
It’s crazy the age of ocean liners was barely 100 years
Yes that’s true - around 120 years or so from 1838 to 1958 before things really started to change.
I already knew the question and I knew the answer which is that an ocean liner is a vessel that is designed to handle crossings across a vast ocean like the Atlantic or the Pacific where is the cruise liner is only designed to handle which called safe and light Harbor type of operations she will only cruise in which Cole safe waters if you ask the cruise liner to cross Atlantic Ocean to be asking for the risk a lot the love boat could never survive in Electra Crossing
Absolutely fantastic video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Than ks Chris.
Always love your videos This one exceptional.
Brad Donaldson
"Have you ever tralled on an Ocean Liner?"
QM2 15 crossings and cruises (and another crossing booked)
QE2 cruise.
QE and QV cruises.
20 voyages with Cunard in total.
Never knew that an ocean liner could be powered by a hairspring 3:45 lol
Cruiseships can take rough weather too.
Absolutely! They’re just not optimised to transit those kinds of conditions day in, day out for 20-30 years like the liners were.
🚢🚢🚢
I love the Queen Mary 2❤
So do we!! Thanks so much for becoming a member Kate!
Me too
Well technically we could say qe2 is powered by electric motors
From 1987-2008 propelled by electric motors yes! Powered by diesels.
@@ChrisFrameOfficial sorry ment qm2
Are any of these two ships mentioned here faster than the SS United States at 43 mph maximum speed?
No. SS. United States still holds the record 🏆