The Gray's were my grandparents. I spent many a summer there as a kid. Always warms my heart to see others enjoying one of my favorite places on earth.
I've been there! As a science teacher, it was a bit hard to believe but that tree is thriving. Thanks for video and education! Any plans to visit Michigan's oldest trees on South Manitou?
This place is an arborist secret in Michigan. I climbed the tree to harvest cones to help with propagation effort. Jake isn't the only one! I tried starting one if it's "offspring" in SE Michigan but it didn't make it, sadly. Thanks for your video!
Interesting fact about the bark of these Sequoia's: It's spongy. It takes fire for these trees to propagate where they are found naturally in California. And those fires would come through regularly, continuously cleaning up the short new growth on the forest floor. With new growth sequoia's standing a better chance of surviving these brush fires since their bark is imbued with a great deal of moisture.
Thank you for the share. You two do such cool stuff together! If only more folks could be like you two.....the world would definitely be a better place!
@@RestlessViking I'm a bit of plant geek and knew that BI is close to the climate they grow in naturally just a bit colder. But with time that may change. So far 2 winters and most are doing ok. You guys were about 3 blocks from my land on BI in Port St James.
We were just in Ludington two weeks ago! I wish I'd have known this was there before we left. We have a dawn redwood in our backyard (near Madison, WI), I'm interested in seeing how it deals with our soil and climate.
Dawn Redwoods are normally better suited to the climate than Coastal Redwoods. At least, that's what I've read in tree botanist forums where they seem to have much more knowledge than me.
In Northern California, on the coast, Coastal Redwoods (Sequoia Sempervirens) can sprout like weeds. 115 ft tall is average for an 80 year old redwood. When I lived in Northern California, off Hwy 101, the average 60 year old tree was normally about 100 ft tall and 3 ft around at the base 3 ft above the ground. Redwoods grow amazingly fast the first 30 years of their life. I am going to plant some gigantia variety in Missouri to see how they do. I was thinking the winter temps are too low for sempervirens. Thanks for telling me about this arboretum.
Another to consider is the relatively available Zone 4 hardy Metasequoia, the Dawn Redwood. An ultimately 100' tall fast growing deciduous (it drops its needles in the fall) redwood tree with attractive deeply furrowed brown bark. It was thought to be long extinct, the fossil record indicating it had last existed during the time of the dinosaurs 60 million years ago. But by chance in 1942, someone from the Arnold Arboretum in Cambridge, MA discovered one growing in a monastery in Szechuan China. He asked one of the monks there if he knew of any others growing anywhere else. And the monk pointed to the mountains in the distance and said they were everywhere to be found over there.
Super cool. I didn't know about these trees. I am almost as old as they are though they will far outlive me. Also there are chestnut trees in two or three locations more or less along the lake. I'm sorry I can't remember where, it's probably 40 years since I saw them.
We have a large Sequoia nursery in Michigan. You too can plant a Sequoia. They have found Sequoia grow from roots. So to keep the ancient genetics they grow clones.
I have a sapling about a foot tall, 8 months or so old. Live in SE Michigan, likely going to have to bring inside this winter when it dips below 20°F. Don’t know where it’s final spot will be.
New subscribers here from Indiana. Well from Ga but now live in Indy. My husband and I love your videos. We’ve been busy binge watching past few days. We love you guys and Poppins beautiful smile. Great storytelling!
Last August I visited my son who lives in Prague. We visited friends of his wife, where I was shown a Sequoia that was planted 10 years ago. It was very healthy and quite tall. Just doing fine in the Prague suburbs.
maybe because where they are planted on eastern lake michigan shore, they are moderated somewhat by super cold air masses in the winter, and Lake Michigan has never frozen over completally like lake Superior does
I've been visiting Manistee every year for over 20 years and had no idea until this summer that these trees were just down the road from Orchard Beach State Park where we camp.
Of all the You Tube Channels In all the travel vlogs In all the world You show up in my feed. I guess the chores will have to wait. I've got some YT binge watching tonight. I have viewed a few episodes on your channel and have enjoyed them. I agree, one often finds more delightful surprises by taking the unfrequented road I subscribed Happy Trails and Peace be with you
You mentioned these trees being Giant Sequoia and Coast Redwood. The Giant Sequoia (Sequioadendrom gigianteum) and Coast Redwood (Sequoia sempervirens) are two different species.
Here's some more facts. There are 2 varieties of redwoods in Calif.. Sequoia Sempervirens (coastal) and Sequoia Gigantia (Mountains). I live at the north end of the Sacramento valley, but grew up in Sacramento. AT that time there were no redwoods growing in the valley. Now they are everywhere. We have 7 on our property that are over 20 years old. They are growing all over the neighborhood, too. We live in a high desert climate where the summer temps are frequently over 110 f. We think that sometime a newer redwood was developed that can withstand these high temps. In summary, redwood trees are tough. It takes heat as hot as a forest fire for their seeds to germinate.
I've read that the west coast RW's thrive due to the fog and their efficient ability to absorb moisture from it. Reckon that's the same advantage here?
The climate does seem to be good for them. But the harsh winters should still be their downfall. Most arborist seem to think these Coastal Redwoods have some genetic characteristics that help them thrive - and they say the "thrive" is the most compelling part. But, to your point, even during the driest season in years, the drone footage captured lots of moisture on film. Moisture that a CRW could absorb. Good thought.
@@RestlessViking interesting.... Wonder if it's mysteriously expressing an ancient genetic profile once share by the Sierra and Coast. Are the two able to hybridize an offspring?
@@RestlessViking probably thinking of someone else. Lol. Some cheeky monkey came along a few years back claiming to be the 'real' hiking viking and posted a bunch of YT vids, he's a long trail hiker. He was in diapers when I was the O.G. hiking viking. Ha.
Now hold on- are the Michigan trees Giant sequoias (Sequoiadendron giganteum, found growing on the western slope of the Sierra Nevada at mid-elevations and thriving in a very specific, dry summer/snowy winter climate) or Coast Redwoods (Sequoia sempervirens, a taller, more gracile, fog-adapted, species found in the greatest concentrations in a narrow strip of coastal northern California and extreme southern Oregon)? These are related, but definitely different, tree species, and the host/narrator used both terms. A bit of clarification appreciated.
The Giant Sequoia is not the same tree as the Coast Redwood and they do not grow together in their native environments in California. The Giant is a Sierra Mountain tree while the Redwood grows only along the Pacific coast.
I saw sequoias in Berkshire England, a row of about 6 along a road near Upper Woolhampton. I was impressed by their height. Probably about 100 years old.
There is or was a flowering tree for Hawaii in Battle Creek Michigan it was pretty good size it survived because sewers under the ground keeping the roots warm, don't remember the name of the tree sorry
I live on what what is part of a former arboretum in NY. The other part was largely destroyed in 2018 by a tornado . I have a lot of dawn redwoods planted in the 1940’s after they were discovered in China after long being thought extinct. I also have 1 sequoia which I need to rescue from the tree that decided to grow next to it. Having a lot of beautiful trees can be heart breaking and a big responsibility but they can’t all have lightening rods and wind is bad. Carpenter ants and all the horrible new tree diseases. The emerald ash borer was a bad one , when I first came there was a fragment of an English elm still alive, beach tree disease….I hope the gypsy moths don’t get here. My going on 200 year old cucumber tree is my favorite knock on wood. lol
Why wouldn't they survive here in Michigan? Seems soil, atmospheric conditions are similiar or foresters just don't know as much as they think they know!! I would love to plant a few on my property just to see if they would grow.
If it's the child/clone of General Sherman, they could have other names in that style using military rank. the big tree could be named after a famous Michigan officer of the civil war? (was there one?) Perhaps the newest once could be named after CMH winners from the state? Or perhaps famous Michigan/regional native Americans?
From the "Nit Picky pedant"dept. You can not give these trees two different names... In CA, there are two different sequoias. The tree you have here is the "Giant", which lives in the rocky heights of the Sierra mountains. The other is called the "Coast Redwood" which thrives along the foggy coast of the Pacific. They have two very different roots structures. They are BOTH Sequoia trees, just different.
Half the height, but not half the size. As time goes, the tree will grow thicker, and the growth in height will slow. Think out how quickly it doubled in size from when it was a sapling. The doubling will take longer as time passes.
The Gray's were my grandparents. I spent many a summer there as a kid. Always warms my heart to see others enjoying one of my favorite places on earth.
As a born Michigander, how did I have no idea of this? Thanks for sharing. Love your channel.
Thanks for watching! I'm learning something new about the Great Lakes everyday!
I've been there! As a science teacher, it was a bit hard to believe but that tree is thriving. Thanks for video and education!
Any plans to visit Michigan's oldest trees on South Manitou?
We do. We have visited before, but now to go back and record the story.
@@RestlessViking Excellent!
This place is an arborist secret in Michigan. I climbed the tree to harvest cones to help with propagation effort. Jake isn't the only one! I tried starting one if it's "offspring" in SE Michigan but it didn't make it, sadly. Thanks for your video!
Interesting fact about the bark of these Sequoia's: It's spongy.
It takes fire for these trees to propagate where they are found naturally in California.
And those fires would come through regularly, continuously cleaning up the short new growth on the forest floor.
With new growth sequoia's standing a better chance of surviving these brush fires since their bark is imbued with a great deal of moisture.
Wow, thank you for sharing this! I had no idea there were any giant sequoias in MI.
Me neither! (Until we did the video ;-) Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the share. You two do such cool stuff together! If only more folks could be like you two.....the world would definitely be a better place!
Wow, thank you!
I planted some on Beaver Island. Maybe in 80 years they will be noticeable.
It's a worthwhile chance to see if it will!
@@RestlessViking I'm a bit of plant geek and knew that BI is close to the climate they grow in naturally just a bit colder. But with time that may change. So far 2 winters and most are doing ok. You guys were about 3 blocks from my land on BI in Port St James.
I'm sure you'll be astounded to see how well they've progressed in 2103 😆
Be careful what you wish for, you will probably get it.
Go beaver Island! 🌲
We were just in Ludington two weeks ago! I wish I'd have known this was there before we left.
We have a dawn redwood in our backyard (near Madison, WI), I'm interested in seeing how it deals with our soil and climate.
Dawn Redwoods are normally better suited to the climate than Coastal Redwoods. At least, that's what I've read in tree botanist forums where they seem to have much more knowledge than me.
Thanks for putting this video together. This is a must see place.
Thanks for taking us along 👍
glad i found your channel. planning a motorcycle ride around the lake this fall.
Have a great ride! Sounds like a good time!
This is very interesting!
🌲🤯 Who knew? Now I've got to go see it! 😎✌️
Very cool. I was told about redwood growing on Cranbrook campus in Bloomfield Hills Mi.
In Northern California, on the coast, Coastal Redwoods (Sequoia Sempervirens) can sprout like weeds. 115 ft tall is average for an 80 year old redwood. When I lived in Northern California, off Hwy 101, the average 60 year old tree was normally about 100 ft tall and 3 ft around at the base 3 ft above the ground. Redwoods grow amazingly fast the first 30 years of their life. I am going to plant some gigantia variety in Missouri to see how they do. I was thinking the winter temps are too low for sempervirens. Thanks for telling me about this arboretum.
Another to consider is the relatively available Zone 4 hardy Metasequoia, the Dawn Redwood. An ultimately 100' tall fast growing deciduous (it drops its needles in the fall) redwood tree with attractive deeply furrowed brown bark. It was thought to be long extinct, the fossil record indicating it had last existed during the time of the dinosaurs 60 million years ago. But by chance in 1942, someone from the Arnold Arboretum in Cambridge, MA discovered one growing in a monastery in Szechuan China. He asked one of the monks there if he knew of any others growing anywhere else. And the monk pointed to the mountains in the distance and said they were everywhere to be found over there.
Super cool. I didn't know about these trees. I am almost as old as they are though they will far outlive me.
Also there are chestnut trees in two or three locations more or less along the lake. I'm sorry I can't remember where, it's probably 40 years since I saw them.
We have a large Sequoia nursery in Michigan. You too can plant a Sequoia. They have found Sequoia grow from roots. So to keep the ancient genetics they grow clones.
I had no clue those were there. thanks for posting. Also , it was fun meeting you guys in Lowell
Yes it was great meeting you guys!
Great Video and totally amazing how they survive, and are growing so rapidly.
I have a sapling about a foot tall, 8 months or so old. Live in SE Michigan, likely going to have to bring inside this winter when it dips below 20°F. Don’t know where it’s final spot will be.
That’s absolutely amazing!
Beautiful 👍 love seeing the earth bear fruit . 🌈
Awesome! Grew up in Calif.Love the Redwoods, Sequiou
We lived in that area 11 years and never knew any of that ever existed. Thanks for exposing this interesting information.
Cool. I live in Scottville and think we will make the short drive up this afternoon. Never knew these were here. Thanks for sharing!
Hope you enjoy
@@RestlessViking We did, very much. Thanks for the tip on something cool almost in my backyard (well... 20 miles away. )
How handicap accessible is the farm and trails to the giant sequoia's?
The parking area to the tree is paved and gravel. It isn't ideal once you get close to the tree, but seems doable.
I don't know how you guys find this stuff! I love it!!
New subscribers here from Indiana. Well from Ga but now live in Indy. My husband and I love your videos. We’ve been busy binge watching past few days. We love you guys and Poppins beautiful smile. Great storytelling!
Awesome! Thank you! We are very happy you are here.
This was fascinating! TY! I wonder if they could graft a seedlings with regular trees and have some mighty big trees. I love trees!!
Last August I visited my son who lives in Prague. We visited friends of his wife, where I was shown a Sequoia that was planted 10 years ago. It was very healthy and quite tall. Just doing fine in the Prague suburbs.
Great episode, trippin with the Vike and lady Poppin,,life is good. :)
Are they selling offspring of those? I'd plant a few here in Allegan county if I could get some.
I don't know. There is a company Archangel Tree Achive that has been managing the offspring. They might sell them, but I don't know.
The closer to the Big Lake you live, the better these trees will probably do.
We went! Never would’ve know if not for you guys. Thanks much!!
maybe because where they are planted on eastern lake michigan shore, they are moderated somewhat by super cold air masses in the winter, and Lake Michigan has never frozen over completally like lake Superior does
So Cool!
I've been visiting Manistee every year for over 20 years and had no idea until this summer that these trees were just down the road from Orchard Beach State Park where we camp.
Got to see that tree every day 😊
Of all the
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In all the travel vlogs
In all the world
You show up in my feed.
I guess the chores will have to wait.
I've got some YT binge watching tonight.
I have viewed a few episodes on your channel and have enjoyed them. I agree, one often finds more delightful surprises by taking the unfrequented road
I subscribed
Happy Trails and
Peace be with you
You mentioned these trees being Giant Sequoia and Coast Redwood. The Giant Sequoia (Sequioadendrom gigianteum) and Coast Redwood (Sequoia sempervirens) are two different species.
Here's some more facts. There are 2 varieties of redwoods in Calif.. Sequoia Sempervirens (coastal) and Sequoia Gigantia (Mountains). I live at the north end of the Sacramento valley, but grew up in Sacramento. AT that time there were no redwoods growing in the valley. Now they are everywhere. We have 7 on our property that are over 20 years old. They are growing all over the neighborhood, too. We live in a high desert climate where the summer temps are frequently over 110 f. We think that sometime a newer redwood was developed that can withstand these high temps. In summary, redwood trees are tough. It takes heat as hot as a forest fire for their seeds to germinate.
I've seen Sequoia sempervirens being sold in Lexington, KY.
They must be able to survive the climate there too.
I live couple miles from this and never knew!
😍 i think we'll have to go there on our trip to Manistee next month!
I've read that the west coast RW's thrive due to the fog and their efficient ability to absorb moisture from it. Reckon that's the same advantage here?
The climate does seem to be good for them. But the harsh winters should still be their downfall. Most arborist seem to think these Coastal Redwoods have some genetic characteristics that help them thrive - and they say the "thrive" is the most compelling part. But, to your point, even during the driest season in years, the drone footage captured lots of moisture on film. Moisture that a CRW could absorb. Good thought.
@@RestlessViking interesting....
Wonder if it's mysteriously expressing an ancient genetic profile once share by the Sierra and Coast. Are the two able to hybridize an offspring?
Watching after pulling weeds which I believe are related to these trees. If I was 60 miles north you could do a show on my garden.
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❤❤❤ enjoy ❤❤❤ thank u viking ❤
Awesome, I love this channel
I lived on southern coastal oregon for several years, Migrating From Toledo Oh
This is awesome
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video!
Thanks for stopping by!
Great stop, was just there a few days ago, Geocaching brought us there. Ramble on Sir Charles & Poppins :D
Hey! I just met some fans of yours in Greenville!
@@RestlessViking probably thinking of someone else. Lol. Some cheeky monkey came along a few years back claiming to be the 'real' hiking viking and posted a bunch of YT vids, he's a long trail hiker. He was in diapers when I was the O.G. hiking viking. Ha.
@@The_Hiking_Viking 🤣😂 Imposter!
I never knew. I don't live far from there. That's fantastic.
Now hold on- are the Michigan trees Giant sequoias (Sequoiadendron giganteum, found growing on the western slope of the Sierra Nevada at mid-elevations and thriving in a very specific, dry summer/snowy winter climate) or Coast Redwoods (Sequoia sempervirens, a taller, more gracile, fog-adapted, species found in the greatest concentrations in a narrow strip of coastal northern California and extreme southern Oregon)? These are related, but definitely different, tree species, and the host/narrator used both terms. A bit of clarification appreciated.
This was very cool! 🌲
Thanks!
The Giant Sequoia is not the same tree as the Coast Redwood and they do not grow together in their native environments in California. The Giant is a Sierra Mountain tree while the Redwood grows only along the Pacific coast.
Nice guys!!!
I saw sequoias in Berkshire England, a row of about 6 along a road near Upper Woolhampton. I was impressed by their height. Probably about 100 years old.
There is or was a flowering tree for Hawaii in Battle Creek Michigan it was pretty good size it survived because sewers under the ground keeping the roots warm, don't remember the name of the tree sorry
I live on what what is part of a former arboretum in NY. The other part was largely destroyed in 2018 by a tornado . I have a lot of dawn redwoods planted in the 1940’s after they were discovered in China after long being thought extinct. I also have 1 sequoia which I need to rescue from the tree that decided to grow next to it. Having a lot of beautiful trees can be heart breaking and a big responsibility but they can’t all have lightening rods and wind is bad. Carpenter ants and all the horrible new tree diseases. The emerald ash borer was a bad one , when I first came there was a fragment of an English elm still alive, beach tree disease….I hope the gypsy moths don’t get here. My going on 200 year old cucumber tree is my favorite knock on wood. lol
I have 5 Dawn's growing in my back yard here near Grand Rapids, MI.
Planted about 30 years ago, they are healthy & around 50' tall.
Why wouldn't they survive here in Michigan? Seems soil, atmospheric conditions are similiar or foresters just don't know as much as they think they know!! I would love to plant a few on my property just to see if they would grow.
i grew up in Manistee! i never knew these existed!
Was that an American Chestnut??? That might be more rare than the Sequoia.
One of the largest living American Chestnuts in the country resides at Prudential Nursery in Vicksburg, MI, just south of Kalamazoo.
Who knew? The coolest thing I've learned today.
If it's the child/clone of General Sherman, they could have other names in that style using military rank. the big tree could be named after a famous Michigan officer of the civil war? (was there one?) Perhaps the newest once could be named after CMH winners from the state? Or perhaps famous Michigan/regional native Americans?
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There's one planted in the 30s or 40s outside grand rapids ohio it's huge
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William Beal included sequoias in his experiemental plantation in Grayling to see what could grow on the cutover lands. No sequoias did so.
Good info. I did not know that.
From the "Nit Picky pedant"dept.
You can not give these trees two different names...
In CA, there are two different sequoias.
The tree you have here is the "Giant", which lives in the rocky heights of the Sierra mountains.
The other is called the "Coast Redwood" which thrives along the foggy coast of the Pacific.
They have two very different roots structures.
They are BOTH Sequoia trees, just different.
I would plant one in my backyard.
“Bubba” the sequoia made me laugh.💗
😂
Lake effect???
arbereat..them
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Ok. We really have to do something about this!
STILL ONLY ONE THUMB!!
Carbon is good, plant food.
let's cut it down and build a picnic table
Can't see why they wouldn't grow in Michigan. Here in California, they grow in the Sierra Nevada Mountains where there is tons of snow.
Half the height, but not half the size. As time goes, the tree will grow thicker, and the growth in height will slow. Think out how quickly it doubled in size from when it was a sapling. The doubling will take longer as time passes.