The tug didn't even get touched other than getting dowsed in a gnarly splash wave. Some people just do not have any business writing news articles. SMH
I watched several of these launches... and not quite sure why the tug and operator were so close to the LCS! It's lucky the LCS didn't swamp the stern of the tug.
@@matthewnardin7304 Not true. All that means is you can't prove the other person thought something or not. You have absolutely no way of knowing what they were thinking. And it's probably more accurate to say they 'thought' some thing was going to happen rather than 'knew'.
According to the news there was some kind of miscommunication with the tug boat crew and the people releasing the ship. I would guess tug boat crew was still *planning* to get away from the area when they already released the ship.
@@MikkoRantalainen interesting thing is the tug had a major amount of power on for quite a while before the ship launched. No doubt they real story will eventually come out. I just wondered whether there was a hang up he was trying to fix. Mighty short line.
I worked there for 4 months. I was also up in escanaba where they do the combining gear. They are absolutely milking the work in escanaba. People could show up an hour late, take an hour lunch (usual lunch is 20 minutes in the yard in Marinette). Some friends told me Gary Ihde director of operations pushed the button too soon. Guys a douche.
Shouldn't the title be "Tug didn't get it's ass out of the way?" This isn't the first time a ship was launched in that way and won't be the last. Bravo Zulu to the tugboat captain and the skill they displayed there.
@@phlogistanjones2722This guy would seem to share your opinion: ruclips.net/video/jo7KOnh0XAc/видео.html It sure fits the usual pattern of boon.. I mean defense appropriations. The navy will probably run it into a cargo ship anyway.
It looks like they used it to tug the ship free and start it sliding into the water. They probably should have had a lot more rope and been a greater distance away though.
Takes time for lessons to be learned? The side launch of the ship christened "Leviathan"-but renamed "Great Eastern"- before the finally successful third attempt at launch clearly pointed out how carefully such maneuvers need to be planned. In the years since 1857 this seems to have been forgotten. At least the launch of LCS 31 did not, unlike that of Leviathan, cost any lives. BTW although the Navy calls this class "Littoral Combat Ship," I am told by some who have served on these ships that the sailors call them "Little Crappy Ships" These ships were designed with the idea of actually physically swapping out part of the ship to allow different roles (eg mine sweeping, anti-submarine and so forth) to save money. This has worked about as well as you might guess-not even as well as this botched launch. On the good side, the contractors who design, build and maintain these albatrosses continue to reap staggering profits even as these ships are being decommissioned as unfit for service. Good value, I suppose, as the first was commissioned "way back" in 2008.
@@fredsalter1915 I don’t know if it’s shameful. Embarrassing yes. But shameful? Maybe actually considering the dent they put in the ship is going to cost a million to repair.
The harbor master dropped the ship after the tug captain radio'd that he was still getting set. The opposite tug hadnt even moved into position either. Hard to blame the crew when they did everything right and an antsy shore crew failed to listen or follow basic safety checks for laying a ship.
The whole thing is a misnomer. We the people were banned from owning Assault weapons by the National Firearms Act of 1934. We’ve only had SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES. No select fire option for full auto. Therefore, not assault weapons.
@@jmf5246 Not really. A large portion of the "bad design" and "not seaworthy" hype is due to comparing the LCS to a standard "blue water" US Navy warship. As with many things military, the problem comes in when you take a piece of equipment specifically designed for one purpose and attempt to use it for another. The LCS was never intended for deployment in a standard at-sea combat environment. The intended function of the class is to get up close and personal in shallow coastal (littoral) waters where a Frigate cannot operate due to draft and a Patrol Boat does not have the required capabilities. The Freedom class has a draft of about 14 feet. The latest frigate under construction has a draft of 18 feet, the Perry-Class has a 22 foot draft. As far as combat effectiveness, pretty much everything is modular and can be swapped out in hours, even the berthing areas. What the mission requirements are determines what modules will be installed. Instead of a compromise, the configuration can be specifically tailored for the mission. Crew berthing can be configured for anything from the base crew of 50 up to around 100. Need a minesweeper, load the modules. Need support for a SEAL team, load the modules. Need a SigInt vessel, load the modules. Need to "show the flag" in a bunch of foreign ports, leave the combat modules at home. There were a few trials done that indicated the addition of anti-aircraft missiles would present a major problem for an adversary, as the small size, low radar cross-section, and the ability to travel at 47 knots make it extremely difficult to engage by enemy aircraft. Ditto for enemy seaborne platforms. The shallow draft enables the vessel to hide in locations where a warship would not generally be found.
@@kevincrosby1760 Wrong again shill "operating restrictions will limit the service's current LCS fleet to a top speed of 34 knots rather than the normal 40-plus knots" Also they decommission them as fast as they can as they do not work and cannot be fixed.
Look, I don't know the first thing about launching big ships but is this really a smart way to go about it? I mean, it looks like something that Beavis and Butthead would come up with.
Now if they knew the ship was going to be launched at that point in time, WHY OH WHY would they have been that close? Evidently not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
The US has an excellent ship building industry and US warships are generally built to excellent standards but these LCS are riddled with problems and seem to have really bad luck. Call me superstitious but they seem cursed ??
Can’t win a World Series, can’t make it to a Super Bowl…what did you THINK was going to happen when you launched this warship? This is the modern version of the ‘Vasa’ warship.
Is there ever anyone on board a ship when it launches in this way? If so it must have been pretty damn terrifying. Also, I love the way the tug boat scarper's pretty quick after getting hit by that wave
After spending so much money, they could not afford another 20 yards of rope? Or was it: 'Yes, I have done this before, there will be no problems here. You people are clearly paranoid." Well it could have been: "Oops."
That is the democratic party's way of doing everything. If it is going good, change it without thinking about safety and without thinking about additional costs associated with the change.
This is as ridiculous as the space x team clapping and getting louder as years of work get blown out of the sky. Why u clapping, bro? U wouldn't clap during the Discoveries explosion. Would u?
Hi Tristan, did you take this video? If so, can we have permission to use on Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, Fox Nation, Fox Weather and all Fox News Edge affiliates across all platforms until further notice with courtesy to you? Do we also need anyone else’s permission? Thank you.
The tugboat had some huge rubber tire looking things floating behind it. And there’s no way they’d let somebody be there when launching. I think they planned it being a bit of a stop roll just in case🤷♂️
So...your going to launch a Navy Ship with a Tugboat on the other side next to the Hull...that's my Tax Dollars buying that ship! I Want it Fixed and painted before I Accepted! Oh...and your FIRED!!
It's alright. They were planning on decommissioning that ship in 3 weeks anyways...
Love it! I added to it, see my comment
one less loose end you can just decommission it right there
lol
😂
I understood this reference. 😂
Imagine getting knocked down by all kinds of water and hearing nothing but cheers in the distance
Imagine having a naval ship slam into the back of your boat doing god only knows how much damage and hearing nothing but cheers in the distance.
Imagine yelling "she needs more power!" Then a warship nudges you in butt. Everyone is cheering!
Hello Mr. George. How much you pay the new guy? 20 bucks! No! Too much money! He's no good operator!
The tug didn't even get touched other than getting dowsed in a gnarly splash wave. Some people just do not have any business writing news articles. SMH
MERCA
Tugboat should have used a longer towingline.
Only ship the navy has engaged in 80 years! Give everyone a combat medal and a purple heart!
Nope. Operation praying mantis actually disabled two iranian ships (and several boats but you know the difference). Still this breaks a 30+ years run.
Brand new and already has a scratch…dang it!
To be fair, this is the most Cleveland thing that could've happened to it
Ballonfest ‘86
exactly!
That dude running across the deck, getting the hell outa dodge!
I was on the USS Cleveland LPD-7 for three years. He's not wrong.
If you look close you can see the before and after damage by the rail. Was there the clang was really loud when they hit.
I watched several of these launches... and not quite sure why the tug and operator were so close to the LCS! It's lucky the LCS didn't swamp the stern of the tug.
He luck the ship didn't actually hit the tug, given how swamped the tug got.
@@Wrangler-fp4ei It did. imgur.com/vumFq0Y
Yeah maybe a longer cable system next time or whatever they used. 😂
@@Wiscomau5 which will now cost $1,000,000 to repair because… US government.
Yeah, the Cleveland actually lifted the bow of Dum-Dum Tug out of the water, lucky they're not being salvaged!
I'm no Navel Architect...but that looked inevitable.
Imagine being one of those guys on the tug ? Watching a wall of steel about to crush them .
Launched and drew her first blood in the same moment
it is not steel, it is aluminum
00:30
"Knew that was gonna happen."
Always that *one* person at any event who witnesses any mistake. They always know.
I knew someone was going to comment this. I always know.
@@crazycorpsman1391Exactly. If you don't call it before it happened, you didn't know shit.
@@matthewnardin7304 Not true. All that means is you can't prove the other person thought something or not. You have absolutely no way of knowing what they were thinking.
And it's probably more accurate to say they 'thought' some thing was going to happen rather than 'knew'.
I think everyone knew it was going to happen given how stupidly close that tugboat is.
I knew it was going to happen from the title of the video.
Why was the tug so close? Seems a bone headed move by the Captain
According to the news there was some kind of miscommunication with the tug boat crew and the people releasing the ship. I would guess tug boat crew was still *planning* to get away from the area when they already released the ship.
@@MikkoRantalainen interesting thing is the tug had a major amount of power on for quite a while before the ship launched. No doubt they real story will eventually come out. I just wondered whether there was a hang up he was trying to fix. Mighty short line.
Need longer mourning lines. Glad they're safe👍❤️
That probably broke the combining gear 🤣
I know right😂😂😂😂😂
I worked there for 4 months. I was also up in escanaba where they do the combining gear. They are absolutely milking the work in escanaba. People could show up an hour late, take an hour lunch (usual lunch is 20 minutes in the yard in Marinette). Some friends told me Gary Ihde director of operations pushed the button too soon. Guys a douche.
Bubba you did it again!
Ship was like no no no nONOOO NO NO NO NOOO
Shouldn't the title be "Tug didn't get it's ass out of the way?" This isn't the first time a ship was launched in that way and won't be the last. Bravo Zulu to the tugboat captain and the skill they displayed there.
...Sal Mercogliano sent me here...🇺🇸 😎👍☕
Battle-scarred on launch
Good coverage of the event, thanks! Someone might be in a spot of trouble over this screwup, no?
NO.
This piece of flotsam will never result in ***ANYONE*** being so much as scolded.
Boondoggle from A-Z.
@@phlogistanjones2722This guy would seem to share your opinion: ruclips.net/video/jo7KOnh0XAc/видео.html
It sure fits the usual pattern of boon.. I mean defense appropriations. The navy will probably run it into a cargo ship anyway.
Why would they not use a longer line and stay further away from the ship while giving it a tug off the blocks, close call!
Thanks for the reply. I thought the tug may have been there to give it a tug and start the slide down the slip way.
Makes too much sense, miliary didn't want to pay for a longer towline, so they just used what captain Ahab had!😆
Because sailors are idiots that's why. Yvan eht nioj and find out
thank you for the video its great, why was that tug so close to the ship?
It looks like they used it to tug the ship free and start it sliding into the water. They probably should have had a lot more rope and been a greater distance away though.
@@trex_hi5 Absolutely!
Takes time for lessons to be learned?
The side launch of the ship christened "Leviathan"-but renamed "Great Eastern"- before the finally successful third attempt at launch clearly pointed out how carefully such maneuvers need to be planned.
In the years since 1857 this seems to have been forgotten.
At least the launch of LCS 31 did not, unlike that of Leviathan, cost any lives.
BTW although the Navy calls this class "Littoral Combat Ship," I am told by some who have served on these ships that the sailors call them "Little Crappy Ships"
These ships were designed with the idea of actually physically swapping out part of the ship to allow different roles (eg mine sweeping, anti-submarine and so forth) to save money.
This has worked about as well as you might guess-not even as well as this botched launch.
On the good side, the contractors who design, build and maintain these albatrosses continue to reap staggering profits even as these ships are being decommissioned as unfit for service. Good value, I suppose, as the first was commissioned "way back" in 2008.
did they not bring a longer tow cable?
That's Clevelanders for you. Making waves wherever they go.
Why was the tug that close in the first place?
Aren't there procedures to make sure everyone and everything is out of the way?
Over the side there are personnel working over the side onboard uss rocking ship
I am surprised the LCS didn't break in half.
yeah or punch a hole in the LCS and it sunk dock side considering the well know reputation of the LCS classes fragility
Could they not use a longer cable?
Two words, Longer rope!😆
wtf was the plan? the crew was scurrying. what an embarrassment for all involved
Agreed. Looks like amateur hour. Shameful.
@@fredsalter1915 I don’t know if it’s shameful. Embarrassing yes. But shameful? Maybe actually considering the dent they put in the ship is going to cost a million to repair.
The harbor master dropped the ship after the tug captain radio'd that he was still getting set. The opposite tug hadnt even moved into position either. Hard to blame the crew when they did everything right and an antsy shore crew failed to listen or follow basic safety checks for laying a ship.
That wasn’t a crash, it was a little slap on the @$$
"I can fix it man, my Dad's got this ULTIMATE set of tools"!!!
I'm glad the tug and his crew were alright!
Bad communication, scary results.
She earner her first Battle E on launch, taking out a vessel without firing a single shot
Lmao 😂
Glad all is well
Was this the tug captain's first launch event?
Must have been an Acme tug!
The whole thing is a misnomer. We the people were banned from owning Assault weapons by the National Firearms Act of 1934. We’ve only had SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES. No select fire option for full auto. Therefore, not assault weapons.
Surprised the tug didn't cut the LCS in half.
They barely touched each other that’s rediculous.
LCS ships are highly vulnerable. Bad design during the so called war on terror
@@jmf5246 Not really. A large portion of the "bad design" and "not seaworthy" hype is due to comparing the LCS to a standard "blue water" US Navy warship. As with many things military, the problem comes in when you take a piece of equipment specifically designed for one purpose and attempt to use it for another.
The LCS was never intended for deployment in a standard at-sea combat environment. The intended function of the class is to get up close and personal in shallow coastal (littoral) waters where a Frigate cannot operate due to draft and a Patrol Boat does not have the required capabilities. The Freedom class has a draft of about 14 feet. The latest frigate under construction has a draft of 18 feet, the Perry-Class has a 22 foot draft.
As far as combat effectiveness, pretty much everything is modular and can be swapped out in hours, even the berthing areas. What the mission requirements are determines what modules will be installed. Instead of a compromise, the configuration can be specifically tailored for the mission. Crew berthing can be configured for anything from the base crew of 50 up to around 100. Need a minesweeper, load the modules. Need support for a SEAL team, load the modules. Need a SigInt vessel, load the modules. Need to "show the flag" in a bunch of foreign ports, leave the combat modules at home.
There were a few trials done that indicated the addition of anti-aircraft missiles would present a major problem for an adversary, as the small size, low radar cross-section, and the ability to travel at 47 knots make it extremely difficult to engage by enemy aircraft. Ditto for enemy seaborne platforms. The shallow draft enables the vessel to hide in locations where a warship would not generally be found.
@@kevincrosby1760 Wrong again shill
"operating restrictions will limit the service's current LCS fleet to a top speed of 34 knots rather than the normal 40-plus knots"
Also they decommission them as fast as they can as they do not work and cannot be fixed.
Hey Mr George how much you pay new guy $20 no he’s no good 😳
For the Tugboat guy it seemed like just another Tuesday.
Tugboats are notoriously tough.
We're gonna need a longer rope...
Look, I don't know the first thing about launching big ships but is this really a smart way to go about it? I mean, it looks like something that Beavis and Butthead would come up with.
Maybe wait until the tugboat is far enough away from the ship before you launch? That was a expensive mistake.
That's a 2692.
good testing see if it will float .Yes it did
Is there anyone accountable? Who is the person who gave the command to release Cleveland with the tug so close? Hmmm?
Hope this isn't another new ship that the navy can't afford the ammo for. 🤔
Жаль не потом - было бы эпично...)
Now if they knew the ship was going to be launched at that point in time, WHY OH WHY would they have been that close? Evidently not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
You mean the wave moved it slightly 😂
Hold my beer!
Hey... at least it didn't catch the water on fire.
Scary and disturbing to look at. Glad I was Surface.
Red Rover Red Rover
Send USS Cleveland On Over...
They can't even launch the ship properly. No chance in hell it's not full of construction issues.
The US has an excellent ship building industry and US warships are generally built to excellent standards but these LCS are riddled with problems and seem to have really bad luck. Call me superstitious but they seem cursed ??
Can’t win a World Series, can’t make it to a Super Bowl…what did you THINK was going to happen when you launched this warship? This is the modern version of the ‘Vasa’ warship.
That's an EM-385-1-1 investigation for you! Who the heck authorized that launch?
That'll just be another 10 billion to repair the damage....
Why that tug is so close🤬
Where is this at? What company is the Tug?
Happened in Marinette
Its tug shakir, an african company
@@gadafwar5520 not true, it's the Gaynor
maybe a longer line next time? me thinks
Was a boop 🛥👈🏽
Well, let's plan on it's decommissioning!
Didn't hit the boat. The banner just came off hitting the water. Even if it did its fine. Adds character.
It's fine. It'll buff out
Is there ever anyone on board a ship when it launches in this way? If so it must have been pretty damn terrifying.
Also, I love the way the tug boat scarper's pretty quick after getting hit by that wave
I said lunch time, not launch time!
That shit happens!
Clittoral class ship 😊😊
Tug got pouded with warships bow wave don't look like any hull contact was made.
Is this a bad omen for this ship ?
Being "constructed" is a bad omen for this entire CLASS.
LCS = Little Cr**py Ship
i think it is the tug boat get christen instead. since the water splash on it.
After spending so much money, they could not afford another 20 yards of rope? Or was it: 'Yes, I have done this before, there will be no problems here. You people are clearly paranoid." Well it could have been: "Oops."
That is the democratic party's way of doing everything. If it is going good, change it without thinking about safety and without thinking about additional costs associated with the change.
Hello Mr. George. How much you pay the new guy? 20 bucks! No! Too much money! He's no good operator!
It's bad luck for a ship to crash on her maiden voyage... This one crashed BEFORE her maiden voyage. Wonder what that constitutes 🤣
we need a war on tugboats
Someone's in trouble
Unfortunately with todays Navy that would be a "nope".
They will just decommission it in three years instead of the "planned" five.
This is as ridiculous as the space x team clapping and getting louder as years of work get blown out of the sky. Why u clapping, bro? U wouldn't clap during the Discoveries explosion. Would u?
And then both proceed to sink 😅
Hi Tristan, did you take this video? If so, can we have permission to use on Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, Fox Nation, Fox Weather and all Fox News Edge affiliates across all platforms until further notice with courtesy to you? Do we also need anyone else’s permission? Thank you.
The original videos are not mine
@@Wiscomau5 I appreciate you getting back to me
Surely there's a more smarter way to do this....
Should have used a longer rope
Isn't it the Navy's job to sink other ships? Did not even come close wave over it no contact . The tug got their front row seat,,,
現場の士気が低いんだろうね。
$1,000,000,000 + for that ship
I guess Tugboats don't sink 😁
OOps!!
The tugboat had some huge rubber tire looking things floating behind it. And there’s no way they’d let somebody be there when launching. I think they planned it being a bit of a stop roll just in case🤷♂️
Do you honestly think they launch these ships needing other ships as a "stop roll"? lmao
No offense but you're wrong on all counts
So...your going to launch a Navy Ship with a Tugboat on the other side next to the Hull...that's my Tax Dollars buying that ship! I Want it Fixed and painted before I Accepted! Oh...and your FIRED!!
Russia, Russia, Russia....... Russia is responsible for this.
The reefer must be pretty good out in those parts
It doesn’t look like there was actually any contact between the two ships. It was just a big wave.
imgur.com/vumFq0Y
Bad as one of their recruiting videos...😢😅😅😅
these ships are obsolete even before they are launched. waste of tax dollars but that's not a threat in this country anymore.
Sure we will rescue taiwan, save Japan and korea... We are really the best in the world.
The Navy had to settle for the littoral combat ship, after they were unable to find the clittoral combat ship.