You forgot what the matrix gives to its user it gives the knowledge experience and wisdom of the 13 primes and they basically have anything you would wanna know in their head optimus has the matrix of course thats why IQ went to him even the whole team in question does not have the combined intelligence that optimus would have using the matrix
@@Primeditz I think to put it better would be that Shockwave is the most NATURALLY intelligent one here, since he doesn't use something akin to the matrix to grant said knowledge or intellect.
@@rachnussouldrinkerlibraria5640 absolutely Prime is not as intelligent or knowledgeable without the Matrix if we’re going Prime without the matrix vs Shockwave Shockwave wins IQ
It’s really hard to believe that this version of Optimus prime is so over powered that he takes on megatron, dreadwing, and shockwave at the same time and edit is just beautiful🍷🗿 Also it says Megatron at his base so 𝕐𝔼𝔸ℍ
Dreadwing alone would already give FOC Optimus trouble, either TFP Megs and Shockwave solo as they scale to a stronger version of the same exact character
What's stopping them from dodging? Also even if he shoots at them what's gonna happen? Shockwave has shown to quickly shrug a blast from BH Optimus Prime who 3 shot TFP Megs who slammed a FOC Optimus level character (Ultra Magnus), Dreadwing has shown to take a blast from present day TFP Optimus who is basically FOC Optimus but stronger as shown with the Megatron and Ultra Magnus comparison and also statements of Optimus getting stronger and better in every mission he takes part in, and that blast from TFP Optimus didn't even one shot him
@@anakinlowground5515except for the fact shockwave is older than both Optimus and Megatron and is a legitimate scientist who’s gone as far to commit war crimes with his experiments
Nolan hill prime has the wisdom of all primes and as g.e said he’s got knowledge of primes war with unicron and the other primes we’re also filled with wisdom e.g. megatronus, souls prime, alpha trion
Aren't these both technically part of the same continuity? The aligned mess or whatever it's called, so in that sense you have a pre tfp Optimus versus the tfp trio that would have more experience being from further along the timeline
Yeah except the comics basically linked the WFC & FOC games to the Prime series meaning that Optimus predates the prime series characters thus making him weaker
Bv optimus vs 3 decepticons(he was dead) Also foc optimus vs damn good powerful 3 decepticons(he wins :>) thats the why i love this optimus version. Bv fanbois this massage to you. Bayverse optimus did not distracted. He did not think megatron comes back. This is he's fault.
bayverse optimus is the dumbest version of optimus he relies on strength not mind he went without hesitation to three decepticons his overconfidence killed him
Optimus WFC FOC streanch armor stamina durability endurance ap dc hax IQ battle IQ experience battle experience weapons weapons power abilities size power raw power fire power
This reminds me of Izuku Midoryia, Tenya Iida, and Shoto Todoroki vs. Stain, for some reason. But, it's Optimus Prime vs. Megatron, Dreadwing, and Shockwave. And also Optimus Prime wins against the three of them, unlike Stain did with his battle. We also need Toei Animation to make their own Transformers anime this time. But, with them Devastation leveled, or perhaps BEYOND Devastation leveled. And have them do the identical animations that they do with the other animes they make. And hopefully, have Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime, Frank Welker as Megatron and Soundwave, Gregg Berger as Grimlock, Johnny Yong Bosch as Bumblebee, Patrick Seitz as Silverbolt, etc. And of course, including some other anime voice actors and actresses, while we're at it.
Optimus Prime would be in huge trouble with Megatron alone. Dreadwing and Shockwave both have insane firepower and brute force which Optimus can't handle alone. Even if he is that OP it would end in a draw instead of Prime winning. The thing is, with fighting Megatron, Dreadwing and Shockwave, tgey would definitely overpower Prime by a lot. To be more precise: Strength: DECEPTICONS (All 3)) Durability: DECEPTICONS (Megatron) Endurance: DECEPTICONS (Megatron) IQ/Battle IQ: DECEPTICONS (All 3) Experience: PRIME Battle Experience: DECEPTICONS (Megatron) Weapons: DECEPTICONS (All 3) Power: PRIME Combat: DECEPTICONS (Megatron) Skills: PRIME Brute Force: DECEPTICONS (All 3) Knowledge: DECEPTICONS (Shockwave) Alt. Mode: DECEPTICONS (Shockwave) Offense: DECEPTICONS (All 3) Defense: PRIME Speed: PRIME DECEPTICONS WIN MID DIFFICULTY!
@@fexbddude, if you play as Megatron in the final level, he gets stabbed by Prime with his own massive sword in his chest, and he pulls it out of himself and keeps fighting. I don’t think Shockwave has ever survived something that bad.
@@anakinlowground5515 Well, Grimlock ripped his limbs off, doused him in toxic energon and blew fire on him, which Shockwave survived and followed by solo'ing the dinobots later, he survived the unstable space bridge explosion which killed TFP Megatron with virtually no internal injury, he jumped from the top of Darkmount (8km tall?) and again with no injury
This is not true. Optimus wasn’t holding back in Prime when he fought Megatron and that is a more experienced and stronger version of this one. He lost that fight, now imagine that fight but add the smartest person in the entire universe and someone whose skill is close to Optimus and Megatron. There’s no way he wins this fight unless he uses the matrix.
This may not ne true but damn bro actually aside from this video prime at his most powerful not holding back could have killed megatron like when he thought that megatron had killed smokescreen if optimus lost his temper easy then magatron would have died, prime almost killed megatron if the dark energon hadn't powered up megatron he would have been dead
@@yuriyuridazeты чего 😂 ты на корпус этого прйса посмотри он массивнее чем все остальные и к тому де шоквейв медленный он почии ни разу в тфп не бегал у дредвинга слабешая броня ищ этиз троев сикирой он отлетит а мегатрона он престрелит так как у wfc foc бластеры сильнее чем у остальных кроме комексных оружий
Prime and wfc are the same universe and in wfc Megatron could beat optimus as he was really inexperienced in that game and megatron was much more experienced. And in prime Megatron is even a more experienced version so he definitely beats wfc optimus
@@Chese_66Чел реально клоунада . Представь дорогой мой , я в этой вселенной с 4 лет . Есть такая вещь как 《Объединённая вселенная》, в ней находятся WfC, ТФП, РИД и боты спасатели . Конкретно здесь Прайм из WFC и Мегатрон, Дредвинг, Шоквейв из ТФП . Давай я покажу тебе наглядно : Прайм WfC/Мегатрон, Дредвинг,Шоквейв TFP Сила : 0/1 ( Мегатрон в 5 или 4 серии первого сезона раскидал прайма за несколько минут , а тут вместе с ним ещё и Дредвинг с Шоквейвом ) Скорость : 0/2 ( магатрон с дредвингом крайне быстры в бою и в альтформе , единственный кто из них не такой быстрый в обоих критериях это Шоквейв ) IQ : 0/3 ( Мегатрон и Дредвинг- прекрасные стратеги. Шоквейв - лучшый учёный десептиконов, стратег что продумывает каждый свой шаг используя логику ) Боевой IQ : 0/4 ( момент действий TFP проходит спустя несколько десятилетий если не столетий после WfC , и это я не упоминаю десятки сражений после событий WfC ) Возраст : 0/5 (напоминаю что после WfC проходят десятилетия , если не столетия пока начинаются события TFP ) Альтформа : 0/6 ( танк , и два военных самолёта против одного грузовика , логично, логично.) Мегатрон, Дредвинг, Шоквейв TFP Negative Diff.
Нет дредвинг с этим оптимусом не справиться потому что у этого Оптимуса есть сикира который уничтожает противников с одного удара раз уш у дредвинга мощная броня то Оптимус с этой сикирой уничтожит дредвинга с двух атак
NATURALLY speaking yes but Optimus has the Matrix he knows almost everything about everything he can execute any scheme because of his knowledge and he knows what has worked for the primes and what has not
“One shall stand.”
“One shall fall.”
Mf what about us
Naw.
One shall stand
All shall fall.
This gonna play out like the infamous forest battle.
Except that there are no pesky humans to distract him this time
@Luke Wright I mean, you never know if one of em' gets a cheap shot in.
" this universe is not big enough for both of us to exist together Megatron "
I'm sorry but intelligence and knowledge went to the other team the moment Shockwave showed up
You forgot what the matrix gives to its user it gives the knowledge experience and wisdom of the 13 primes and they basically have anything you would wanna know in their head optimus has the matrix of course thats why IQ went to him even the whole team in question does not have the combined intelligence that optimus would have using the matrix
@@Ridplays_DooM hmmmm... fair point... I concede
@@rachnussouldrinkerlibraria5640 ladies and gentlemen we found and extremely rare specimen a person that can actually admit there wrong 🤯
@@Primeditz I think to put it better would be that Shockwave is the most NATURALLY intelligent one here, since he doesn't use something akin to the matrix to grant said knowledge or intellect.
@@rachnussouldrinkerlibraria5640 absolutely Prime is not as intelligent or knowledgeable without the Matrix if we’re going Prime without the matrix vs Shockwave Shockwave wins IQ
It’s really hard to believe that this version of Optimus prime is so over powered that he takes on megatron, dreadwing, and shockwave at the same time and edit is just beautiful🍷🗿
Also it says Megatron at his base so 𝕐𝔼𝔸ℍ
I mean he has the power of the player and the player has a bigger biq
Dreadwing alone would already give FOC Optimus trouble, either TFP Megs and Shockwave solo as they scale to a stronger version of the same exact character
first, optimus will shoot shockwave, then dreadwing, and for dessert, megatron
@@DragonStory. mmhh good explain :>
What's stopping them from dodging? Also even if he shoots at them what's gonna happen? Shockwave has shown to quickly shrug a blast from BH Optimus Prime who 3 shot TFP Megs who slammed a FOC Optimus level character (Ultra Magnus), Dreadwing has shown to take a blast from present day TFP Optimus who is basically FOC Optimus but stronger as shown with the Megatron and Ultra Magnus comparison and also statements of Optimus getting stronger and better in every mission he takes part in, and that blast from TFP Optimus didn't even one shot him
@@wayneborg6728 not to mention shockwave tanked a blast to his head/eye from arcee
He shall call the one who heeds the call of the last prime
WAR FOR CYBERTRON IS THE BEST AND MOST UNDERRATED THING EVER
Optimus prime: one shall stand, all shall fall
Knowledge goes to Decepitcon trio they literally have Shockwave on their team bro you can't debate that
No Prime wins knowledge because he knows almost everything because of the Matrix
@@Primeditz The matrix only gives him the knowledge of the primes and their war with Unicron not knowledge of everything in the universe
@@Zygomatic_Boltand y’know, he was an archivist, a librarian, so he knows a lot from books
@@anakinlowground5515except for the fact shockwave is older than both Optimus and Megatron and is a legitimate scientist who’s gone as far to commit war crimes with his experiments
Nolan hill prime has the wisdom of all primes and as g.e said he’s got knowledge of primes war with unicron and the other primes we’re also filled with wisdom e.g. megatronus, souls prime, alpha trion
Aren't these both technically part of the same continuity? The aligned mess or whatever it's called, so in that sense you have a pre tfp Optimus versus the tfp trio that would have more experience being from further along the timeline
One shall stand
Three shall fall....
Masterpiece
Dude, the game's continuity is way more op than the shows, now isnt it?
I mean, yeah. If you play as Megatron in the final level of FOC, then he gets stabbed right through his chest, and still keeps fighting.
Yeah except the comics basically linked the WFC & FOC games to the Prime series meaning that Optimus predates the prime series characters thus making him weaker
Technically WFC Optimus is a younger TFP Prime since they both fall in the Aligned Continuity.
Bv optimus vs 3 decepticons(he was dead)
Also foc optimus vs damn good powerful 3 decepticons(he wins :>) thats the why i love this optimus version. Bv fanbois this massage to you. Bayverse optimus did not distracted. He did not think megatron comes back. This is he's fault.
bayverse optimus is the dumbest version of optimus he relies on strength not mind he went without hesitation to three decepticons his overconfidence killed him
@@DragonStory. yeah. I think just like that. He just dive into decepticons. He is so dumb :/
@@DragonStory. cap. Bayverse Optimus is not the dumbest but Earthspark is.
nice edit
IQ goes to the decepticons trio, they got Shockwave
this OP alr got matrix and the matrix is obviously how IQ goes to OP (just my opinion, but if count OP no matrix then ye ur right)
God prime
experience and battle exp because foc characters are 200 million years older according to the moment when cliffjumper was in library
Pov: you are controlling Optimus and you've won the battle against 1v3
Optimus WFC FOC streanch armor stamina durability endurance ap dc hax IQ battle IQ experience battle experience weapons weapons power abilities size power raw power fire power
Bro gave motion sickness while watching this short 💀💀
How does op have durability on all 3 of um ? And 🔥🔥🔥 edit , can’t wait to see more
Planetary level
@@DragonStory. damn
@@DragonStory.if Optimus fought all three of them he’s dead
@@DragonStory.How is he planetary?
@@DragonStory. dayummm
This edit is so good. I wish I could get this good what do you use for edits?
You REALLY think Optimus Prime has a higher IQ than Shockwave ALONE, plus two high ranking Decepticons including their leader? let alone knowledge.
Strength prime
This reminds me of the TF ROTF forest fight.
Oh how much money I would pay to see this fight animated
I'd say opposite that Decepticon trio wins, but I'm cool with this too
Fire edit bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Jetfire (young) vs optimus Prime bayvers pls
Could you do galvatron armada vs optimus prime 2.0 with after dark?
Im pretty sure Biq goes to the other team, I mean like thats 3 of the most battle ready, Deadly decepticons in tfp
I AM finished this game in 2021
This reminds me of Izuku Midoryia, Tenya Iida, and Shoto Todoroki vs. Stain, for some reason. But, it's Optimus Prime vs. Megatron, Dreadwing, and Shockwave. And also Optimus Prime wins against the three of them, unlike Stain did with his battle. We also need Toei Animation to make their own Transformers anime this time. But, with them Devastation leveled, or perhaps BEYOND Devastation leveled. And have them do the identical animations that they do with the other animes they make. And hopefully, have Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime, Frank Welker as Megatron and Soundwave, Gregg Berger as Grimlock, Johnny Yong Bosch as Bumblebee, Patrick Seitz as Silverbolt, etc. And of course, including some other anime voice actors and actresses, while we're at it.
Optimus is a prime making him smarter than shockwave
Next idw optimus prime vs goku and megatron dss and dark energon
Literally just TFP Optimus, just the Cybertronian version
wow. the prime 😎
Naaahhh bro gave Optimus intelligence when shockwaves the smartest transformer
The matrix of leadership in question:
@@CrusaderEdits337Matrix won't save Optimus
Cool 😎
man WOFC/FOC optimus is so cool
it's super normal to make mistakes, but if you write decepticons (if I wrote it wrong, you can speak freely)
Megatron is his only threat lmao
Optimus Prime would be in huge trouble with Megatron alone. Dreadwing and Shockwave both have insane firepower and brute force which Optimus can't handle alone. Even if he is that OP it would end in a draw instead of Prime winning. The thing is, with fighting Megatron, Dreadwing and Shockwave, tgey would definitely overpower Prime by a lot. To be more precise:
Strength: DECEPTICONS (All 3))
Durability: DECEPTICONS (Megatron)
Endurance: DECEPTICONS (Megatron)
IQ/Battle IQ: DECEPTICONS (All 3)
Experience: PRIME
Battle Experience: DECEPTICONS (Megatron)
Weapons: DECEPTICONS (All 3)
Power: PRIME
Combat: DECEPTICONS (Megatron)
Skills: PRIME
Brute Force: DECEPTICONS (All 3)
Knowledge: DECEPTICONS (Shockwave)
Alt. Mode: DECEPTICONS (Shockwave)
Offense: DECEPTICONS (All 3)
Defense: PRIME
Speed: PRIME
DECEPTICONS WIN MID DIFFICULTY!
Durability and Endurance wouldn’t be because of Megatron, Shockwave survived and took far more damage and physical barrages with virtually no injuries
@@fexbddude, if you play as Megatron in the final level, he gets stabbed by Prime with his own massive sword in his chest, and he pulls it out of himself and keeps fighting. I don’t think Shockwave has ever survived something that bad.
@@anakinlowground5515 Well, Grimlock ripped his limbs off, doused him in toxic energon and blew fire on him, which Shockwave survived and followed by solo'ing the dinobots later, he survived the unstable space bridge explosion which killed TFP Megatron with virtually no internal injury, he jumped from the top of Darkmount (8km tall?) and again with no injury
🔥 edit but in my opinion Megatron can beat him high to extreme diff and Optimus beats Dreadwing and shockwave high to extreme diff
"Galvatron"(Megatron+Unicron TFP) vs Optimus (FOC+all boosts)
Brute strength goes to prime cause of his rage
Wfc and foc optimus are the same as prime one, just that Prime's optimus is more experienced.
Blus forgot that wfc came before prime
treating it that way is a stupid comparison because everything before basically doesn't matter anymore
BayVerse forest fight flashback
Bro ain't no way Prime would beat a trio of the strongest decepticons in TFP
I have question that:
If tfp is after the story of wfc/doc then how does optimus prime from wfc can win against tfp decepticons??
Treating by feats and not canon because that basically means no point to comparison
Wfc/foc optimus wins bloodlusted
But what will happen when the vehicon gets the tree
woc and foc optimus are the same universe as tfp
Optimus prime wfc/foc vs bay verse decepticons
Prime!
Some stuff there is wrong
Ok weres the Forest.
Bro, have you seen IDW Shockwave? He fucking SOLOED Optimus! And ripper the matrix out of his chassis
Lord MEGATRON 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Make Megatron with dark enerjon saber,s trio vs optimus prime woc
Why is this even a debate we all know who’s the god of transformers 😂
Not extreme diff , only mid-high diff
{me vs Megatron {Base}, dreadwing and shockwave} :winner: Ramraok(aka me)
Ok this was fan based bias as heck
Prime axe
Destroyed trypticon
**prime awakens metroplex**
i wasn't asking megatron *proceeds to kill megatron*
Tp tio vs gimlock and is my birthday so pls
Dreadwing would be the first to fall as he is the weakest one there. Shockwave would fall second and Megatron last.
All fun and games till bumblebee dies
AUTOBOTS ROLL OUT
Look at the bottom screen
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This is not true. Optimus wasn’t holding back in Prime when he fought Megatron and that is a more experienced and stronger version of this one. He lost that fight, now imagine that fight but add the smartest person in the entire universe and someone whose skill is close to Optimus and Megatron. There’s no way he wins this fight unless he uses the matrix.
Bro (don't start war pls)
Optimus could have destroyed Megatron if he wasn't playing fair or holding back
This may not ne true but damn bro actually aside from this video prime at his most powerful not holding back could have killed megatron like when he thought that megatron had killed smokescreen if optimus lost his temper easy then magatron would have died, prime almost killed megatron if the dark energon hadn't powered up megatron he would have been dead
Трое против одного? Прайму секира и бластеры не помогут
Помогут это не Беевский Прайм
@@DragonStory. Они его троем зажмут
Шоквейв отвлекет, Дредвинг заминирует, Мегз добьет
@@yuriyuridazeты чего 😂 ты на корпус этого прйса посмотри он массивнее чем все остальные и к тому де шоквейв медленный он почии ни разу в тфп не бегал у дредвинга слабешая броня ищ этиз троев сикирой он отлетит а мегатрона он престрелит так как у wfc foc бластеры сильнее чем у остальных кроме комексных оружий
Тудааааа их
no diff
Bro said Optimus slams them both when a weaker and less experienced Megatron already dominated him before 😭
@MoonlessSky This dude's established to be a soft and rookie compared to later ver of him. He def can't win
low diff*
Stop overrating FOC 😂He wins but not LOW DIFF
@@fexbd tfp - 🗑, wfc/foc - ❤🔥👑
@@keenreform9106 😐
@@keenreform9106TFP is part of the Aligned Continuity, same as the Cybertron games. Though, it’s full of plot holes as a continuity
Fire edit, but cap
Nope. 🗿
Prime and wfc are the same universe and in wfc Megatron could beat optimus as he was really inexperienced in that game and megatron was much more experienced. And in prime Megatron is even a more experienced version so he definitely beats wfc optimus
WFC Optimus and Megatron are much stronger than Prime Megatron and Optimus
This is illogical - Shockwave
Shockwave claps no diff
No. 🗿
W edit but shockwave is supposed to have much more knowledge than optimus
Где же эта мощь была когда один лишь мегатрон его избил нахер.
Заткнись наверное это было в других вселенных трансформеров а тут за жтого прайма мы игроки сможем играть за него и так он сможет его победить
@@Chese_66Чел реально клоунада . Представь дорогой мой , я в этой вселенной с 4 лет . Есть такая вещь как 《Объединённая вселенная》, в ней находятся WfC, ТФП, РИД и боты спасатели . Конкретно здесь Прайм из WFC и Мегатрон, Дредвинг, Шоквейв из ТФП . Давай я покажу тебе наглядно :
Прайм WfC/Мегатрон, Дредвинг,Шоквейв TFP
Сила : 0/1 ( Мегатрон в 5 или 4 серии первого сезона раскидал прайма за несколько минут , а тут вместе с ним ещё и Дредвинг с Шоквейвом )
Скорость : 0/2 ( магатрон с дредвингом крайне быстры в бою и в альтформе , единственный кто из них не такой быстрый в обоих критериях это Шоквейв )
IQ : 0/3 ( Мегатрон и Дредвинг- прекрасные стратеги. Шоквейв - лучшый учёный десептиконов, стратег что продумывает каждый свой шаг используя логику )
Боевой IQ : 0/4 ( момент действий TFP проходит спустя несколько десятилетий если не столетий после WfC , и это я не упоминаю десятки сражений после событий WfC )
Возраст : 0/5 (напоминаю что после WfC проходят десятилетия , если не столетия пока начинаются события TFP )
Альтформа : 0/6 ( танк , и два военных самолёта против одного грузовика , логично, логично.)
Мегатрон, Дредвинг, Шоквейв TFP Negative Diff.
Im optimus prime haha
Бро как по мне дредвинг и один с Оптимусом справится
Нет дредвинг с этим оптимусом не справиться потому что у этого Оптимуса есть сикира который уничтожает противников с одного удара раз уш у дредвинга мощная броня то Оптимус с этой сикирой уничтожит дредвинга с двух атак
Cap, TFP is a sequel to FOC
Yeah but nothing matches up and treating it that way is just pointless when comparing them
Bruh you don't know
Bro prime looks so bad 😭😭😭😭
Iq and Biq went to cons
Iq goes to the Deceptions, Optimus’s iq is nothing compared to Shockwave
NATURALLY speaking yes but Optimus has the Matrix he knows almost everything about everything he can execute any scheme because of his knowledge and he knows what has worked for the primes and what has not
Bro optimiss is not winning this he’s strong but decpicon trio winning this high diff
Soldier Noir Made a video in response to yours in a day,his is more factual and better imo 💀
100000000000000000001😂😂kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Prime should get bodyd
Mid difficulty
Nah I'm sorry but prime loses that fight
He wins. 🗿
Bro copied fallen edits