Thanks Ren, I've found them really interesting to do so there'll be plenty more - it's just a matter of blocking off the time to get through a whole bunch at once. Good news is, this is the first of a new batch so stay tunes :D
I have a question: Why you didn't import the raw file as a smart object? Are you basically giving it up the advantages over a tiff file? Let me be more clear. When you imported the raw using camera raw you decided to render it to photoshop (which doesn't handle raw files) and then for exposure purpose you rendered again from tiff to smart object in order to change the exposure. Wouldn't be easier to import the RAW file as smart object and retaining all the details. I noticed that exposure in photoshop can bring up less details than exposure in Camera raw/lightroom which can results in a bit of loss of details... I mean it's not the end of the world but still a little bit of information get lost.
Thanks for your question Jean. When opening from ACR as long as it's set to open the image in 16 bit and Pro Photo RGB then the loss of data/detail is practically zero compared to the RAW file. Also, the concept of "rendered again from tiff to smart object" as you put it doesn't really apply because TIFF describes the file format of a saved document (which can include layers etc). A rendered layer isn't technically a "tiff". The only time you'd encounter a noticeable loss of detail is if you'd opened your RAW file into Photoshop in 8 bit instead of 16 or srgb intstead of Pro Photo. Cheers
@@SteveArnoldPhoto nice explanation thanks. But still I noticed that exposure slider from ACR and photoshop behave in a different way when it come to details. Using exposure in PS feels like using exposure in a jpg.
Are you referring to the Exposure adjustment layer in Photoshop? Or the Exposure slider in Camera RAW under the Filter menu in Photoshop? I would agree that the Exposure adjustment layer in Photoshop behaves differently to ACR and the Camera Raw filter, I don't like the exposure adjustment layer at all!
I think we're in agreement about the Exposure slider thats part of the Exposure "Adjustment Layer"... But I feel like we're still not 100% on the same page because you can still access the Camera RAW exposure slider after you've opened the photo in Photoshop (apologies if I misunderstood, but it sounds from what you wrote that you thought this was not possible). For example, if you convert a pixel layer in to a smart object, then via the main PS menu choose "Filter > Camera RAW", then it opens that layer in ACR. From there you can access the ACR exposure slider so it affects that layer/smart object only. See this screenshot: snag.gy/3XYdTH.jpg
Thanks Steve great to see your doing more of these edits get a lot of good info from them
Thanks Ren, I've found them really interesting to do so there'll be plenty more - it's just a matter of blocking off the time to get through a whole bunch at once. Good news is, this is the first of a new batch so stay tunes :D
I have a question: Why you didn't import the raw file as a smart object? Are you basically giving it up the advantages over a tiff file? Let me be more clear. When you imported the raw using camera raw you decided to render it to photoshop (which doesn't handle raw files) and then for exposure purpose you rendered again from tiff to smart object in order to change the exposure. Wouldn't be easier to import the RAW file as smart object and retaining all the details. I noticed that exposure in photoshop can bring up less details than exposure in Camera raw/lightroom which can results in a bit of loss of details... I mean it's not the end of the world but still a little bit of information get lost.
Thanks for your question Jean.
When opening from ACR as long as it's set to open the image in 16 bit and Pro Photo RGB then the loss of data/detail is practically zero compared to the RAW file.
Also, the concept of "rendered again from tiff to smart object" as you put it doesn't really apply because TIFF describes the file format of a saved document (which can include layers etc). A rendered layer isn't technically a "tiff".
The only time you'd encounter a noticeable loss of detail is if you'd opened your RAW file into Photoshop in 8 bit instead of 16 or srgb intstead of Pro Photo.
Cheers
@@SteveArnoldPhoto nice explanation thanks. But still I noticed that exposure slider from ACR and photoshop behave in a different way when it come to details. Using exposure in PS feels like using exposure in a jpg.
Are you referring to the Exposure adjustment layer in Photoshop? Or the Exposure slider in Camera RAW under the Filter menu in Photoshop? I would agree that the Exposure adjustment layer in Photoshop behaves differently to ACR and the Camera Raw filter, I don't like the exposure adjustment layer at all!
@@SteveArnoldPhoto yeah, i think the same way. But I guess there is not a lot that we can do about it. Thanks for taking the time to replay.
I think we're in agreement about the Exposure slider thats part of the Exposure "Adjustment Layer"... But I feel like we're still not 100% on the same page because you can still access the Camera RAW exposure slider after you've opened the photo in Photoshop (apologies if I misunderstood, but it sounds from what you wrote that you thought this was not possible).
For example, if you convert a pixel layer in to a smart object, then via the main PS menu choose "Filter > Camera RAW", then it opens that layer in ACR. From there you can access the ACR exposure slider so it affects that layer/smart object only. See this screenshot: snag.gy/3XYdTH.jpg