I was trying to remember if they have ever interviewed each other and I don't think it has ever occurred before, and they literally filmed six blocks apart for like 13 years
another potentially great guest wasted because Conan interviewed himself for 45 minutes again and sidelined the guest. he did the same with Sandler. I didn’t even finish this one.
The energy in this episode is so comforting. There is plenty of candidness, lightheartedness, and genuine interest, with a continuous undertone of mutual respect. This put a massive smile on my face and made me feel a certain way for the younger versions of these legends, their struggles (internal and external), and their attitudes when things looked bleak. What a fantastic episode.
I've loved Jon Stewart and The Daily Show for a long time, but this interview really highlights how off-the-cuff hilarious he is in a way I hadn't fully appreciated before. He is just as quick as Conan, it's so great to see them bounce off each other. Could listen to them talk for hours!
Yeah you can tell in all the shows he starts riffing and regularly cracks himself up. It's pretty amusing. Also, he's really good at instant feedback in interviews. He just gets all the context quickly and has this great mix of no bullshit but still funny and real.
14:48 I mentioned it on another one of the videos they uploaded from this interview but probably a far more fitting comment for this excerpt: Two guys that struggled in 1994 but David Letterman publicly stated "hang in there, you're going places." Letterman was a guest on the last episode of the "Jon Stewart Show" and told him "don't confuse cancellation with failure."
What Jon said at the end of the episode about trusting your discomfort made me really tear up. I needed to hear that, thanks for bringing such bright minds to come and make us laugh but also give us a glimpse of their overall brilliance
I used to get home from my 2nd shift job just in time for the Jon Stewart Show. I absolutely loved it. Great bands, great guests, and comedy gold from Stewart, Attell and co. I would kill to watch it again. Please re-release it!
You want to watch a British show called "Heil Honey I'm Home!". It's like "I Love Lucy" but with Adolf and Eva. ruclips.net/video/mf9jJx0NSjw/видео.html
The greatest pieces of advice I've ever heard about work life in America in general, but ESPECIALLY SO in entertainment: network like there's no tomorrow, and be easy to work with. Those two things will get you further than your natural talent ever will 9 times out of 10. Conan may have an insane sense of humor that connects with an audience, but the fact that he must actually be a very easy person to work with/for is probably the most important thing that has kept him employed and relevant for decades now.
He was a writer at snl and got an amazing break. He was such a breath of fresh air. The early years were truly unhinged. Stewart’s stint on the Larry Sanders show is also really good.
Comedians in Writer's Rooms are the very important. They give us, the average person an opportunity to laugh, to forget about our daily lives, even for just a minute or two. God Please Bless the First Responders, the Teachers, and the Refuge Removal Teams who never get a Pat on the Back.
I have a very precious VHS tape I've kept for many years that contains a recording of the Jon Stewart Show with guest Denis Leary, and the entire cast of "The State" is in the studio audience.
I'm so appreciative of these existential conversations these two have been putting out into the universe the last few years. It's so helpful for my early middle age.
It's 2024 and the great Hal Linden is still out there, doing guest spots on hit shows. Just a couple of months ago he showed up on the season finale of Hacks, still delivering at 93 years old.
Everything that people say about Dave letterman and Lorne Michaels is so positive and supportive. We need more stories like that to counteract the Cosbys, Weinsteins and Diddys plaguing the industry.
I remember the Jon Stewart show. I remember a doll that was supposed to look like Jon that had misadventures. I think the comment about hating the show and realizing it was about having a good time resonates with me. I need to have more fun...
Listen! In hindsight, Jimmy, Jimmy, Ellen, Stephen, and James have all had minor and major writeups about their personalities and their authenticity … so Loren was right in the long run, CONAN’s genuine kindness keeps him relevant even today in 2024. 💛🎉
@benzaiten933 no big scandal that I can think of for Stephen. There were just some pieces written about how, with some guests, his interactions didn't come off as authentic since it seemed like he didnt like them but had to 'get along' for the cameras - VERY minor compared to his contemporaries.
I've reflected a bunch about when I was earlier in my career. I came to a different conclusion, those trivial moments were _not_ trivial. It was your livelihood and your future trajectory, it's easy to see things "in perspective", but what it really is is forgetting how much more precarious things were back then. I don't envy the current generation, for whom it's far more precarious from the outset. Good luck, folks.
I think good manners translated to good character for Lourne. He also understands that just because he might not get a certain humor that doesn't mean others won't.
@@laalki80 Oh, I really don't know anything about her politics. I just remember when Conan accidentally interfered in the 2006 Finnish presidential election, with his "Vote for Tarja Halonen, because She Looks Just Like Me!" skit commercials. If you haven't already seen them, just search RUclips for "Conan Tarja Halonen 2005" :)
I wish there was still a Colbert Report. It’s too bad “The Opposition with Jordan Klepper” got cancelled. It had a lot of the elements, but just lacked viewership.
This video is spectacular, to me. ♥ Thank you. Seeing these people I've wwatched for decades talk about their interesting af experiences... it's like Jon's perception of Coco vs what he's learning here. 🤯
This is a wonderful, wonderful pairing. I could listen to these two all day long just sharing stories about their exoeriences with show business. Two absolute legends.
As soon as Conan said his name, I knew EXACTLY who he meant. It might've sounded like Conan said, "Joe Etada", or something, but no, it was Joe E. Tata. You don't forget a name like JOE E. TATA (sadly, he passed away in 2022) even if like me, you don't KNOW you know it until someone else says it.
As Conan said, the only time my head was not full of toxic venom and self loathing was playing and singing with my band on stage. Only times in my adult life I was truly care free, happy and not flagellating myself mentally.
This made me realize I could listen to a podcast about all the comedians who've ever had a show with their own name in the title comparing notes about each other and how it all went down
Point of order, Mr. Stewart. I loved the “Jon Stewart Show”, and my favorite episode had Jason Priestly on it. He’s no Joe E. Tata, but still an A-list 90210 star. Jason and Jon played a game of bubble hockey with Jason representing Canada and Jon the U.S. The U.S. players were Lincoln, Susan B Anthony, Martin Luther King….The Canadian players were Alex Trebek, Anne Murray, Michael J Fox, etc.
this happens to us all, as we grow older. how many people who have already died did you see on screen or heard on the radio while they were still kicking? it's a sad fact of life.
I love conversations between comedians like this. This is really better than those hour-long stand-up shows. I really liked the Jon Stewart Show and Late Night.
conan's first word in this video, "I," is the exact same sound as Timon's first "I" in 'Can You Feel the Love Tonight." its crazy, search that song and compare.
funny, i didn't hear it that way at all. it's just two really intelligent men. perceiving some sorta weird pissing contest sounds like projection, tbh. especially since both of these guys are markedly on the self-dep/forwardly humble side.
Loved the Jon Stewart show. He and Dennis Miller would have musical guests that no other late night shows would touch at the time, like Slayer, Anthrax, Redd Cross, Helmet and Primus.
to this day Conan O'Brien Hates My Homeland was one of the best ongoing skits. I loved those episodes. And to then find out about the President of Finland...
I was not a Neilson family but 13 year old me loved watching The John Stewart Show, especially after that moment you could tell he stopped caring. The final episode where he knew he was cancelled was pure delicious comedy anarchy
Hahaa! Conan looks at Sona, almost searching for inspiration as he forms his next thought ... then reveals he would have, through various crimes, made a name for himself.
I remember my first trip out to LA in 1994 for a job interview, and saying to my girlfriend, "I hope I see someone famous, like Emelio Estevez, or Joe E. Tata." Funnily enough, driving around Venice Beach, I did see signs, just printed out on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet and stapled to different telephone poles, which read "90210," with an arrow. Followed them to the beach, and sure enough, there was a 90210 shoot. No Joe E Tata, though - I saw Ian and Brian. Looks like he died two years ago. Big fan of both Conan and Jon from way back then, too. I eventually moved to LA, and saw Jon at the premier party for Mars Attacks! He came in and quickly dashed to the back of the room.
i absolutely love this episode but if i can comment on the picture they took together, i feel like it's such a missed opportunity to show their combined range if they were bouncers
Conan and Jon...thank you both for this. It is almost the perfect thing to watch while I sit and smoke a fatty. My only complaint is that this clip is too short, but so is my attention span, but that is my struggle. Love Love Love you all so much. And thank you for the years of laughter🩷🩵💛
They are both my favorite, I wish they would have a separate podcast or something, with just them two co-hosting…. At least just more episodes like this one.
As a former, strangely precocious Yippee in the late 60s and early 70s, I was only a few years older than Conan and Jon. Very gratified that these cats somehow managed to channel that vibe from when they were actually very young kids. Neither would ever have comforted Henry Kissinger.
These two legends: Putting sleepless nights, working their butts off, panicking over 2.0 Nielsen ratings, builds their viewership up bit by bit to where they are now. Some random girl: "Hawk Tuah", millions of views, best-selling podcast, millions of dollars deals. Makes one lose complete faith in humanity.
Love this contemplation. Well add, Lorne's Canadianness was showing when he chose you for good manners - but really that's uncool Lorne, but grateful your good manners got you to where you are.
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I absolutely loved this episode. It’s just Conan and Jon talking about their careers and appreciating all sorts of comedy.
I was trying to remember if they have ever interviewed each other and I don't think it has ever occurred before, and they literally filmed six blocks apart for like 13 years
Comedy, minus the bear
another potentially great guest wasted because Conan interviewed himself for 45 minutes again and sidelined the guest. he did the same with Sandler. I didn’t even finish this one.
@@blowinshtup6553 why are you here? if you dont like conan dont watch lol i know that sounds crazy
I know this isn't how this show works, but have Jon on more
Just on Mondays
I probably wouldn't have thought they'd get along, but they got along beautifully. Stewart obviously loves Conan.
@@DoctorFuriosothey’ve known each other a long time
I mean, yes - this isn't how the show works... but then, ... it actually works pretty damn well doesn't it?
They've had past guests return, sometimes twice again.
These 2 guys know and lived history; it's worth it just to listen to them. Great Interview!
And yes...I am saying that they are both old as dirt. Just clarifying.
@@blakerbnsn Boomers are definitely people we can learn from.
Two of the biggest champions of late night talk show legitimacy.
The goats of late night
Legitimately* - sorry to be that guy
@ No it's correct. Legitimacy meaning they've made people take more notice.
The energy in this episode is so comforting. There is plenty of candidness, lightheartedness, and genuine interest, with a continuous undertone of mutual respect. This put a massive smile on my face and made me feel a certain way for the younger versions of these legends, their struggles (internal and external), and their attitudes when things looked bleak. What a fantastic episode.
I've loved Jon Stewart and The Daily Show for a long time, but this interview really highlights how off-the-cuff hilarious he is in a way I hadn't fully appreciated before. He is just as quick as Conan, it's so great to see them bounce off each other. Could listen to them talk for hours!
Yeah you can tell in all the shows he starts riffing and regularly cracks himself up. It's pretty amusing. Also, he's really good at instant feedback in interviews. He just gets all the context quickly and has this great mix of no bullshit but still funny and real.
You might try watching "The Weekly Show" with Jon Stewart on You Tube. No, not his now weekly appearance on the Daily Show, but The Weekly Show.
14:48 I mentioned it on another one of the videos they uploaded from this interview but probably a far more fitting comment for this excerpt: Two guys that struggled in 1994 but David Letterman publicly stated "hang in there, you're going places." Letterman was a guest on the last episode of the "Jon Stewart Show" and told him "don't confuse cancellation with failure."
Leno played the game. Whereas, the three of them are too funny to do so.
Letterman would be a great mentor.
What Jon said at the end of the episode about trusting your discomfort made me really tear up. I needed to hear that, thanks for bringing such bright minds to come and make us laugh but also give us a glimpse of their overall brilliance
Two of the greats. Two of my all-time favorites together, I had been waiting for Jon to be on the show...!
I used to get home from my 2nd shift job just in time for the Jon Stewart Show. I absolutely loved it. Great bands, great guests, and comedy gold from Stewart, Attell and co.
I would kill to watch it again. Please re-release it!
“Your goodness comes through and that will see you through” is quite literally prophetic
Jon’s discussion of his revelatory moment is PRICELESS. Thanks, Jon.
Two of my favorite writers and comedians together! Such honest humor.
Loving these longer clips! Big fan of these two, the kings of late nite no doubt!
Dave Atell as Hitler with a bagel...that's all the premise I need. Hysterical!
Remember his show Insomniac in the early aughts? 😂
Made me laugh lol
Now I gotta see it 😂😂😂
You want to watch a British show called "Heil Honey I'm Home!". It's like "I Love Lucy" but with Adolf and Eva.
ruclips.net/video/mf9jJx0NSjw/видео.html
Dave holding the bagel saying "i don't know what i was so afraid of" is absolutely hilarious
The greatest pieces of advice I've ever heard about work life in America in general, but ESPECIALLY SO in entertainment: network like there's no tomorrow, and be easy to work with. Those two things will get you further than your natural talent ever will 9 times out of 10.
Conan may have an insane sense of humor that connects with an audience, but the fact that he must actually be a very easy person to work with/for is probably the most important thing that has kept him employed and relevant for decades now.
Conan, millions of people love you and WISH you still had your show, please take care of your health.
Lucky enough to say I got to see both of these guys perform live. Two of our greatest ever!
A 3 month contract. Damn Conan, for a guy with ur talent, broadcast TV proper did u dirty
Wait till you hear how his stint at the tonight show went. Not too many know or talk about it, one of Hollywood's best kept secrets actually.
@@adrianordonez8800is it a secret? it was all over the news at the time. anyone who was alive at the time knows all about it.
He was virtually unknown as on screen talent.
He was a writer at snl and got an amazing break. He was such a breath of fresh air. The early years were truly unhinged. Stewart’s stint on the Larry Sanders show is also really good.
Comedians in Writer's Rooms are the very important. They give us, the average person an opportunity to laugh, to forget about our daily lives, even for just a minute or two. God Please Bless the First Responders, the Teachers, and the Refuge Removal Teams who never get a Pat on the Back.
I have a very precious VHS tape I've kept for many years that contains a recording of the Jon Stewart Show with guest Denis Leary, and the entire cast of "The State" is in the studio audience.
I'm so appreciative of these existential conversations these two have been putting out into the universe the last few years. It's so helpful for my early middle age.
It's 2024 and the great Hal Linden is still out there, doing guest spots on hit shows. Just a couple of months ago he showed up on the season finale of Hacks, still delivering at 93 years old.
However we sadly lost Joe E. Tata in 2022.
8:59 Hooooo boy did that hit hard
Yeah, it did me too. It’s a quotable line that applies to a few other things in my life!
Everything that people say about Dave letterman and Lorne Michaels is so positive and supportive. We need more stories like that to counteract the Cosbys, Weinsteins and Diddys plaguing the industry.
Conan has come a long way with his podcasting. He's become really good at letting his guests take the spotlight.
I remember the Jon Stewart show. I remember a doll that was supposed to look like Jon that had misadventures. I think the comment about hating the show and realizing it was about having a good time resonates with me. I need to have more fun...
Listen! In hindsight, Jimmy, Jimmy, Ellen, Stephen, and James have all had minor and major writeups about their personalities and their authenticity … so Loren was right in the long run, CONAN’s genuine kindness keeps him relevant even today in 2024. 💛🎉
eh, Stephen? what was his 'scandal'?
@benzaiten933 no big scandal that I can think of for Stephen. There were just some pieces written about how, with some guests, his interactions didn't come off as authentic since it seemed like he didnt like them but had to 'get along' for the cameras - VERY minor compared to his contemporaries.
He went on epstine plane
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I've reflected a bunch about when I was earlier in my career. I came to a different conclusion, those trivial moments were _not_ trivial. It was your livelihood and your future trajectory, it's easy to see things "in perspective", but what it really is is forgetting how much more precarious things were back then. I don't envy the current generation, for whom it's far more precarious from the outset. Good luck, folks.
This is a dream presidential ticket right here!
Stewart/Raggedy Ann 28
13:18 wow. What a story. Amazing. Every single person on Earth could benefit from hearing that story.
Yeah--but lots of people could benefit from access to potable water too. Not sure how this would hit with them.
I’ve been looking for that Wonka parody online for decades!!! “I’m an old man” “GASP!” “Just kidding, I’m young again” “HOORAY!” CLASSIC!
I think good manners translated to good character for Lourne. He also understands that just because he might not get a certain humor that doesn't mean others won't.
what a treat. I respect these two so much individually, seeing them together is awesome. Thanks
Jon & Conan: 2 comedy legends!
Always loved Conan since Late Night aired here in Finland, just recent years I learnt what a legend Jon Stewart is. Agreed 100 %.
@@laalki80Please give our regards to Tarja Halonen :)
@@bradanderson4589 Leftie as I am, I really don't have much nice to say about her. But I'll pass on the message if I see her again.
@@laalki80 Oh, I really don't know anything about her politics. I just remember when Conan accidentally interfered in the 2006 Finnish presidential election, with his "Vote for Tarja Halonen, because She Looks Just Like Me!" skit commercials. If you haven't already seen them, just search RUclips for "Conan Tarja Halonen 2005" :)
I love how they were both competing for sona's laughs the whole time lol
Good eye.
Conan's Lorne Michaels impersonation reminds me of St. Cloud from The Venture Brothers.
Go Team Venture! ✌️
@@RSRye ✌✌
"If you go to Germany and get drunk, at some point you will try to look up Hitler in the phone book." - Dave Atell
Total ego dissolution equals wisdom of the ages.
I wish there was still a Colbert Report. It’s too bad “The Opposition with Jordan Klepper” got cancelled. It had a lot of the elements, but just lacked viewership.
this might be one of the best interview I've ever seen .... Thank you guys
This video is spectacular, to me. ♥ Thank you.
Seeing these people I've wwatched for decades talk about their interesting af experiences... it's like Jon's perception of Coco vs what he's learning here. 🤯
Love watching two goats talk career journeys.
This is a wonderful, wonderful pairing. I could listen to these two all day long just sharing stories about their exoeriences with show business. Two absolute legends.
As soon as Conan said his name, I knew EXACTLY who he meant. It might've sounded like Conan said, "Joe Etada", or something, but no, it was Joe E. Tata.
You don't forget a name like JOE E. TATA (sadly, he passed away in 2022) even if like me, you don't KNOW you know it until someone else says it.
I feel such youthfulness of these folks come out in this conversation. ❤
i'm just here for the tmobile ad placement skit
Would love to see the whole interview uploaded!
"Its Evolutionary" Jon is quick still.
"To get you to stop striving!"
I like how the mics are positioned, it’s like the tissue box is one of the guests
As Conan said, the only time my head was not full of toxic venom and self loathing was playing and singing with my band on stage.
Only times in my adult life I was truly care free, happy and not flagellating myself mentally.
Joe E. Tata, RIP
RIP, Nat. You were like a second, no - third father to all of us
Damn, Jon Stewart looks fantastic
I went and watched Stewart interview Conan in 1994 after this video, holy crap what a time warp.
I love the ad! Usually I skip through but Conan made it funny
This made me realize I could listen to a podcast about all the comedians who've ever had a show with their own name in the title comparing notes about each other and how it all went down
Point of order, Mr. Stewart. I loved the “Jon Stewart Show”, and my favorite episode had Jason Priestly on it. He’s no Joe E. Tata, but still an A-list 90210 star. Jason and Jon played a game of bubble hockey with Jason representing Canada and Jon the U.S. The U.S. players were Lincoln, Susan B Anthony, Martin Luther King….The Canadian players were Alex Trebek, Anne Murray, Michael J Fox, etc.
When two talk show hosts are on the same show together and it works, it really works well. Great dynamic here.
I just need more of Conan, Jon and Sona talking about whatever - this was endlessly entertaining.
Conan is a nice person and he is hard working. He was always going to go somewhere. The Tonight Show debacle just proves that. He kept going.
that bagel bit would've killed me
Just found out Joe is no longer with us.
Conan is turning into my mother, only talking about dead people.
this happens to us all, as we grow older. how many people who have already died did you see on screen or heard on the radio while they were still kicking? it's a sad fact of life.
The Bear is "great comedy". 😂
That Joe E Tata recollection was too good. Blew his own mind. What a m8nd.
I love conversations between comedians like this. This is really better than those hour-long stand-up shows. I really liked the Jon Stewart Show and Late Night.
They both have amazing chemistry and Sona is A++++ spectator skills.
It’s my tall boy and my tiny boy!!!!!!!
Sona's tormented "Uuuurghhh!!" after Conan's neutering /scars joke - LOL😂😂😂
this ep is legendary
absolute legends both of em
Oh how I wiiiiish team Coco would start posting full shows. I listen to the Spotify but it's so much more to see it.
2 of the most gifted and talented comics ever!
This is a brilliant and inspiring discussion
conan's first word in this video, "I," is the exact same sound as Timon's first "I" in 'Can You Feel the Love Tonight."
its crazy, search that song and compare.
I would watch these guys eat lunch every Tuesday for life and be happy.
Conan and Jon Stewart trying to "out word and out adjective" each other.
Much like Niles and Frasier lol
funny, i didn't hear it that way at all. it's just two really intelligent men. perceiving some sorta weird pissing contest sounds like projection, tbh. especially since both of these guys are markedly on the self-dep/forwardly humble side.
Loved the Jon Stewart show. He and Dennis Miller would have musical guests that no other late night shows would touch at the time, like Slayer, Anthrax, Redd Cross, Helmet and Primus.
loving Primus and Helmet is the only thing that would make me endure Dennis Miller.
My two favorite comedy satire shows. are last week tonight with John Oliver. and the daily show with Jon Stewart.
to this day Conan O'Brien Hates My Homeland was one of the best ongoing skits. I loved those episodes. And to then find out about the President of Finland...
I was not a Neilson family but 13 year old me loved watching The John Stewart Show, especially after that moment you could tell he stopped caring. The final episode where he knew he was cancelled was pure delicious comedy anarchy
It’s so nice to see that both approaches to late night were successful.
So tall, what a target was epic 😂😂😂
Conan gets a little competitive when he has another comedian equal on his show.
Equal? Stewbeef is a Jedi Master.
0:42 this is true, for everyone
Fun Fact: Joe E Tata was in more episodes of Beverly Hills 90210 than Luke Perry was... !
It’s good advice! I had it from a 19-year old when I was 17, but I still felt it.
These two together are magic
Hahaa! Conan looks at Sona, almost searching for inspiration as he forms his next thought ... then reveals he would have, through various crimes, made a name for himself.
I remember my first trip out to LA in 1994 for a job interview, and saying to my girlfriend, "I hope I see someone famous, like Emelio Estevez, or Joe E. Tata." Funnily enough, driving around Venice Beach, I did see signs, just printed out on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet and stapled to different telephone poles, which read "90210," with an arrow. Followed them to the beach, and sure enough, there was a 90210 shoot. No Joe E Tata, though - I saw Ian and Brian. Looks like he died two years ago.
Big fan of both Conan and Jon from way back then, too. I eventually moved to LA, and saw Jon at the premier party for Mars Attacks! He came in and quickly dashed to the back of the room.
legendary people of our time
Conan is sunburnt af
i absolutely love this episode but if i can comment on the picture they took together, i feel like it's such a missed opportunity to show their combined range if they were bouncers
That Lorne Michaels bit was gold. lol
More please!
Conan and Jon...thank you both for this. It is almost the perfect thing to watch while I sit and smoke a fatty. My only complaint is that this clip is too short, but so is my attention span, but that is my struggle. Love Love Love you all so much. And thank you for the years of laughter🩷🩵💛
They are both my favorite, I wish they would have a separate podcast or something, with just them two co-hosting….
At least just more episodes like this one.
The last jon Stewart show with the apocalypse now stop motion with screech as the Marlon Brando role was awesome.
As a former, strangely precocious Yippee in the late 60s and early 70s, I was only a few years older than Conan and Jon. Very gratified that these cats somehow managed to channel that vibe from when they were actually very young kids. Neither would ever have comforted Henry Kissinger.
not 2am and losing it over the controversial guest
These two legends: Putting sleepless nights, working their butts off, panicking over 2.0 Nielsen ratings, builds their viewership up bit by bit to where they are now.
Some random girl: "Hawk Tuah", millions of views, best-selling podcast, millions of dollars deals.
Makes one lose complete faith in humanity.
Time will tell if Hawk Tuah girl can keep the audiences attention for as long as these two have.
Love this contemplation.
Well add, Lorne's Canadianness was showing when he chose you for good manners - but really that's uncool Lorne, but grateful your good manners got you to where you are.