Manitoba bus crash: The future of the Trans Canada Highway after tragic collision
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2023
- The Trans Canada highway is a lifeline that runs across this country. Taken for granted in the modern day, paved roads outside of our cities were relatively rare until the 20th century.
The highway traverses 10 provinces: from British Columbia, across the Prairies, Ontario, Quebec, Atlantic Canada and into Newfoundland.
Not including the offshoots, such as Yellowhead and Highway 17, the main route runs 7,821 kilometers, and is the world's fourth-longest highway.
Global’s Dawna Friesen speaks with those from Manitoba’s Professional Truck Driving Championships held this weekend on their memories and hopes for the future of this open road.
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As a truck driver I’m glad this wasn’t a hit piece about how dangerous trucks are.
Question: How come buses don't have lap belts??
@glenw-xm5zf Most do. School buses and transit are the exception.
Transit makes sense considering the amount of people getting on and off, and that the seatbelts would quickly wear out.
School buses I think the logic is that children won't cooperate to keep them on. I disagree with this, and I think the logic is changing for that.
I don't know when it comes to this vehicle. I have to assume they have seat belts, but it's too early to tell whether that was the case, and whether the bus followed regulations.
Not a trucker but grew up in a family that was the longtime owners of Tallmans transport. They always taught me when to lane change in front of them and how to drive around them and I passed that knowledge to my wife.
@@TheEDFLegacy im pretty sure it’s cause in an emergency little kids might not be able to get the seat belts off in time and when there’s 50 kids it’s too slow to help them all them the seatbelt off
It should have been a hit piece on how bad the crossings were designed.
There are ALOT of self absorbed drivers out there , on their phones and only know one speed, - fast. The number of times I have seen cars dive infront of large trucks at close quarters and the truck has to apply the brakes, and by the Grace of God didn't hit the little car that just had to be first is amazing and the little car driver isn't even aware!!, of course if the car gets hit, it's always the trucks fault even though stopping a truck at short distance, just behind a car that just had to be there isn't considered.
I once had a lady steam her clothes as she's driving and doing her makeup,
I kept beeping at her she never notice as she had headphones on well driving
@RUclips musicAlot of bad drivers, plus some bad truck drivers, what a combo! sounds like a receipe for disaster.
When teaching my son to drive I always told him to give the truckers space, to respect how large they are and how much harder it is for them to maneuver.
And never get between a truck and the curb when it is turning a corner.
well, THAT sort of reasoning/logic IS written ALREADY in the driving instruction books. Best piece of advice I could give you?=DON'T teach a child/son/daughter how to drive, leave it up to Young Drivers Canada, period.
@@davemcd9077 I learned to drive when I was twelve years old. My teacher was about twenty-one. Never read the book. But I had been a passenger in a car for 11 years. I paid attention to what the drivers I was a passenger with were doing. By the time I was ten years old, I was checking the blind spots for my mom to let her know whether it was safe to pass or to change lanes. Everyone is different. I am willing to say that there are probably many drivers today that went to Young Drivers Canada and are terrible drivers.
Truck is bad news. Just stay away if you can. ❤
@@write2nick So dumb. LOL! GO!
It sure is tragic, but some folk in cars drive far too recklessly around trucks and its always going to be on our shoulders. Your 4000lbs car isn't going to protect you, good judgement and truckers hypervigilance is what protects you at the end of the day.
@youtubemusic4071 Not as many as cars, mind you. It's pretty rare when I have to call in a trucker for recklessness, and I live on the 401 Corridor where truckers are plentiful.
@youtubemusic4071 dump trucks, garbage trucks and local delivery (including Amazon Prime) in urban high density settings are dangerous. Long distance drivers are very cautious.
Drove both ways on this intersection many times and its as safe as a middle of nowhere intersection can be (without an overpass)and I would say its not the crossing that is a problem its a simple case of human error,very very sad but sometimes even with safety measures we as humans can still make fatal mistakes.
The trans Canada highway should be a freeway. It’s already built to freeway standards, but it has no exits. There are literally hundreds of these high-speed uncontrolled intersections along the highway. Many are with other highways. I live in British Columbia. I once drove across the prairies was on I-94 from Seattle to Minneapolis, and there wasn’t a single intersection. Then I drove the trans Canada was from Vancouver to Winnipeg. The trans Canada is just as busy as I-94, and while driving it I kept thinking that all these uncontrolled at-grade intersections might not be the best idea. I only just now realized how infamous they really are. These intersections have to go, each one of them is a disaster waiting to happen, and are extremely stressful to anyone using them.
Interstate system was designed and built with military use in mind, so the Americans really spared no expense when building it.
Exactly..TC (& yhead) should have been upgraded to Interstate standards years ago...if trudeau would not have limited oil & gas development & exports we could have that
In my 2 land based trips across Canada ... one was through the USA ... The other by train ... Learning about these archaic poorly designed intersections is shocking ... They ALL need modern overpasses installed ... NOW !!
@@maxipadthai we have controlled access cloverleaf ramps at ALL Interchange overpasses on our 4 lane TransCanadaHwy in little bitty New Brunswick ... Come On Manitoba ... You can do better ...
@@paulbadics3500 We have that in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia since 2001 !!!
It’s about time to fix this deadly intersection.
Just this one? What about the other 999 identical intersections on these prairie highways?
Nothings wrong with the intersection. It's the people.Its actually the nicest section of the transcanada highway without any potholes or rough surface
All you have to do is just wait... for you to cross safely
@emlkl1779 , there's nothing wrong with this intersection.
@@diananeuman6222 something wrong with you-thats what I said too. Nothings wrong with the intersection
I'm glad Henry mentioned the mental health burdens truckers face. Trucker's are incredibly underestimated in our society, I hope you're taking care of yourselves out there.
Truckers before didn't have a law where they couldn't drive over a certain amount of hours they just kept going and going and going.
Had a friend whom work 18 hours days .
Never understood how he did it .
@youtubemusic4071You'd starve without them, Clown.
@Forgivenessorlove How?
maybe that's the problem?=they shouldn't HAVE TO take care of THEMSELVES=it should be the employer to provide psychological counseling WHEN they are involved with death-causing accidents, period.
Danger alarm s... "Mental health". The government is mentally ill.....😮😢😅
I told my kids when they were very young to stay clear of trucks. I still tell them and the grand kids!
Been trucking for many years. It's extremely dangerous out there. Please be careful!!
Driving up through salmon arm i've had semis crossing the lane on those corners. Very very deadly with windy roads, high speeds, limited visibility. Some of the turns are a little tight for semi trucks when at speed. So their cargo can cut the lane. Ive seen many close calls, and on my way heading towards alberta i am sure to get into the outside lane. Because that area is literal death
I drilled it into my kids heads and always set the example of respecting trucks and yielding to them. I drove on and off for over 20 yrs and saw enough to really affect me. My sons are good drivers now and are careful with trucks. Hes just a guy trying to do his job. Give him room to turn and back up stay out of his way on the highway.
Considering most where designed a century ago, maybe they could use some upgrading. No?
some intelligence in this thinking at least.
you sir have an argument that has merit.
A lot of the No. 1 Hwy wasn't twinned until the late 70's or early 80's. To solve this problem requires drivers to actually care and have awareness of their surroundings.
🙏🙏 for everyone 😢
I worked for GFL in the city but did the county run and I'm tilling you man that road is kind scary to pass, had a scare already trying to pass
Nobody was trying to pass. The bus was crossing the eastbound lane of the #1, heading south. Obviously he didn't see the semi, for whatever reason.
We need to stop tragedies from happening it should never take a tragedy for change
When you look closely you can see that the truck was a tandem...there is a set of wheels behind the trailer...but you can't see it in the aerial shot.
"Every load, taking a load that we need to survive"
I never understood why they don't have overpasses like we do in Nova Scotia....I remember going to Alberta and beings very concerned everytime I had to cross the TCH or other major highways.
Because it costs money to put them in place and voters keep voting in cost cutting governments that do not wish to increase tax rates to cover such costs
overpasses?...for every cross-bordering farm along the TCH stretch?=waaaayyyy to expensive, farmers would probably cover the costs, only increasing their expenditures. I never understood WHY folks get nervous=makes YOU a bad driver. In THIS case?=patience COUld have been a virtue.
We are the only G7 country that does not have a national highways program.
Highways (construction and maintenance) are basically the responsibility of each province. There are limited funds for highways in the less prosperous parts of Canada.
Well the federal government does kicks in money for individual projects. Example being in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick for their Trans-Canada Highways. A major part of the financing came from the federal government.
A road I do not get to travel, for the most part. Having lived on Vancouver Island my whole life, I have never been further east than Calgary.
It’s sure another world eh, myself I’ve never even driven past Kamloops, Armstrong, Kelowna , from the lower mainland myself, have flown over to the prairies, amazing sight to see below endless mountainous terrain just turn into prairie, just in flash and then it’s flat for hundreds and hundreds of miles . Big sky country.
You Lucky bas---d.
I have actually slept in the esso parking lot by this intersection on the trans Canada driving a fully loaded rig I’m from Vancouver island myself it’s a big eye opener driving this road. It’s kinda scary how many people think they are “god” which means they speed past in unfavourable conditions like sheets of ice white out conditions then lose control and roll into the centre of off then road when they can’t stop. Driving from Saskatoon to regina I had very low visibility we are talking maybe 10 foot visibility at best and had a truck fly past me in those conditions about 20 minutes after I got to Regina they closed the highway I was on because it got worse.
My condolences goes to the peoples life was lost🙏.As 20 yr truck driver. We have a system that is broken. Lots of drivers that don't understand how these big semi's trucks need alot of room to stop and make their turns. What's needed for both is enforcement of people driving behaviours need to be corrected with unlawful actions.
On the same hand the amount of semis I've had basically run me off the road while I'm going the speed limit is mind blowing, filling my rear view mirror with their grill till they can pass.
@@ttonAb2 enforcement is the key. That's an issue as well included in a broken system
Yes as you mention the highway is very well travelled every day. There are hundreds of thousands of vehicles on that highway, daily. I feel very bad for the 25 people injured/died in the recent crash. Take care everyone.
Not nearly that many vehicles
Trans Canada Highway should be renamed, because it's not just for the trans.
I drove trucks for 30 plus years and i seen my share of stupid drivers .Makes you wonder how they got their driver licence
Thats why lights are good with warnings at these smaller hiways and crossroads To slow them down and wake them up Gives all drivers a break for a bit To refocus without the long haul monotony Warning lights 2 should be flashing safe distances before the traffic lights Just incase they missed the first warning I would not want to cross that in ice fog rain or snow With all that long distance traffic Unless I crossed to see traffic on the opposite direction stopped at a red to give one some peace of mind Always make sure they have stopped before you cross on a green If more people did that There would be no fatalities❤
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The senior citizen center bus driver was driving a route for the first time far from home.
Their vehicle wheel base was *likely* longer than the median width. This meant that unlike a passenger car, the bus could not safely stop in the median and thus take each direction of the Transcanada Highway one roadway at a time.
Instead, the bus had to clear *both* directions of the Transcanada Highway simultaneously. The driver miscalculated the approach speed of or did not see the eastbound truck.
That is definitelty not the case, it was a short bus and you can comfortably stop in the middle with a full size pick up truck with a 20 foot flat deck trailer, even a full size semi can stop in there with a single trailer with only blocking the shoulder om the back side which has a whole turning lane regardless.
The Manitoba highways the lanes are too small. The government needs to step up and fix those roads for safety of the drivers and the people
Wider lanes would not have changed this.
@@diananeuman6222 who said that, u sound like u are on government payroll..
I salute all the truckers hulling the goods we all need. I think the quickest solution to prevent these kinds of tragedies is to build on ramp lanes so cars and speed up before they merge into the traffic.
The narrative changed completely once everyone found out the bus driver was at fault. Just sayin
Did it? I live in the Dauphin area. We all waited to hear what had happened. And now we feel so bad for that driver. Who of us has never had a close call? This one was particularly tragic. But they are called "accidents " for a reason.
@@diananeuman6222 or possibly dangerous/careless driving. Sad situation either way.
It's interesting if you look at the initial video before RCMP said it was the bus driver fault. Now the racist stopped caring about this crash.
it takes 2,do you know how many accidents I avoid on a daily basis that is the other drivers fault?
The narrative still the same , bad drivers in Canada, media covering up for bus driver
Awesome reporting from Ms.Friesen.❤
(v) accidents have been a thing and on a constant and sharp rise since a certain variable was introduced!
That hwy was good when it was built however the population has increased about 5 times. Level crossings? School buses? There shouldn't be level crossings, period. Look at Europe or the USA for having a proper high speed expressway, cloverleafs, whatever.
If you can’t safely stop in the median of a busy divided four lane highway, don’t try crossing all four lanes at once.
Instead, consider making a right turn from the side road and going down to the next crossover and make a U turn and return to the original crossroads and make a right turn to continue on your way.
Maybe just pay attention when driving and don't be in a rush, you can see if someone is coming from forever away... 😮 also don't drive if you can't drive
Just notice the headline from Global, “The future of the Trans Canada highway”, ladies and gentlemen, get ready for the 15 minute cities.
how about building overpasses for once?
Another senseless, tragic loss of life. Following the Humboldt accident, NOTHING was done to improve Safety on our highways. NOTHING.
maybe we should make the train better so we dont need so many trucks on the road?
Yes, the train will bring food to the grocery store, products to the retail, and deliver your Amazon package at your front door
trains is hard job
@@ginomanshit2365 trucks is a hard job too
This wasn't a case of a semi running a stop sign. The bus went through the yield, possibly experienced a blind spot, and it could have been any vehicle, including a motorcycle or family car to hit the minibus.
Who are you arguing with? Who said anything about that
I don't quite buy it because this has possibly the clearest sightlines I've ever seen in an intersection. I live in the Greenbelt, so there are quite a few hills and trees, even in farmland areas. Most of the time, in rural areas, I have to creep into their intersection just to see further down. I would love having these kinds of intersections in comparison.
On top of that, the sun's position wouldn't be a factor as the first 911 call was received at 11:43 local time, and in any case the bus was struck by a vehicle coming from the west.
Based on what they were saying about the dashcam, it also sounds like a brake mechanical failure wasn't a factor because if it were they would have noticed and mentioned it in their news release that they failed to yield.
This driver, I can't figure out why they wouldn't be able to see how far away traffic was from them. The only things I can think of is that the driver suffered from vision issues, fatigue, or distraction (which is possible with a bunch of seniors on board). I can also see that inexperience and/or complacency could also be a factor. Finally, some people have a poor judge of distance and relative speed. I have a remarkably good one, but I know some people really can't figure it out because their brains aren't wired for it.
The results of this investigation are going to be very interesting and are likely going to shake up the industry. This driver either shouldn't have been driving because they wouldn't be qualified, or this driver shouldn't have been driving because they weren't in a good state to drive. Regardless, this driver is likely going to be in a lot of trouble, as is the agency transporting them. I just hope that for all involved, this turns into a constructive investigation instead of a witch hunt like the Humboldt tragedy did.
TheEdFlegacy, talking about a blind spot looking through the bus door. When your in the middle of the meridian you tend to want to get out of that section of the highway quicker and he might of had vision obstructed looking through the door or a mirror and semi could’ve been behind when he took a quick look. It happens people make mistakes just this one ending in a terrible tragedy
@@TheEDFLegacy A shuttle bus has a blind spot and the driver needs to open the door in order to see if there is traffic to his right, which at the yield sign with the bus in motion, unlike his action at a stop sign, he apparently failed to do. Add to that driver unfamiliarity with a recently purchased vehicle. Highways cannot be made entirely accident proof. In the final analysis ninety-five percent of the responsibility is with the motorist.
Merge lanes onto Canadian highways, unlike those on American highways that are often a quarter-mile or more long, usually are only about 500 feet in length with the result that ducking into traffic at 55 mph is a game of chicken with half of a car length of space to spare. Any suggestion that direct crossings should be replaced with merging traffic lanes and then exiting further down is likely to be even more risky.
I only mean to state that we need to rule out the semi, realizing it was oncoming traffic.
This crash and the loss of life is very sad and tragic, however, it seems that the cause was straightforward: fundamental human error on the part of the bus driver. Trying to make a big deal out of the highway/driving conditions in that area, especially in the middle of a summer day, doesn't make sense.
I grew up in Manitoba and lived there for over 30 years before moving to the Vancouver area. I've driven regularly between Winnipeg and Vancouver, as well as on Vancouver Island, in the BC interior, between Winnipeg and Toronto, and in several states in the US. I think it is safe to say that Highway 1 in Manitoba/Saskatchewan/Alberta prairies is likely the safest and least challenging (other than for boredom) stretch of highway to drive in the entire continent, especially in the middle of a summer day. The flat, level ground makes for easy driving and provides excellent visibility making it very easy to plan safe lane crossings, lane changes. and passing of other vehicles.
Apparently not sir/ma'am.
It's that innocent perspective that persists, in the face of its tragic consequences. Umm hummm ..
Fraser Canyon in January. You should get danger pay, and extra 20 an hour, I am a good drive, but could NOT do the job of driving a rig. You guys are the best
Obviously the bus driver not white so the cover up and has begun part of that cover up is blaming squirrels on the road instead of trudeaus drivers
I once had a lady steam her clothes as shes driving hanging on her mirrow and she was also doing her makeup.
Kept beeping at her she couldn't hear me cause she had headphones on.
Then i stop beside her at the light.
Throwing hand signs and she open her widow yelled i should mind my own business or she'll call the cops 😂
I seen a women looking at her crotch well driving , I honked the horn and she gave me the finger
People need to slow the F down ! Not the truckers fault !! Too much of a hurry to get gambling was the problem in this case !!!
Has Manitoba never heard of an OVERPASS???
This accident aside ...
... the lack of driver training and the "lowering of the bar" for licensing - is having greater and greater impacts every year.
With more and more automation, citizens are becoming too complacent and inactive at the controls of their vehicles. Because the TC1 is such an antique, monotonous HWY with a ridiculous mix of driving abilities, new technologies should be pushed into the highway design like cheap but effective drive by embedded wire. This would allow a simple follow the leader design while being able to communicate road conditions to all vehicles on the line. This should keep passing lanes clear, move traffic more consistently, and reduce bad or timid drivers from causing reactive traffic conditions
I’ve always believed there is a safer and greener means of transportation across the prairies like high speed magnetic rail. The goods can be transported on highways and passengers by a magnetic monorail system, or one where you can simply hook your own private vehicle into the loop. All aboard!
@@StirlingNash The cost of engineering such a thing would be one of the most expensive projects in the WORLD. I'm all for passenger high speed rail; limiting the number of poor drivers on the road would make it safer for truckers. My main concern is simply the fact that a large scale high speed rail line across the prairies would be too expensive and would take over a decade to build. On top of (most likely) not having enough use given the population there. Ideally we should start with one in between Calgary and Edmonton, see how that goes than hopefully expand.
My dream is that Canada would one day have a high speed rail line that would take you across the country at insane speeds and reasonably priced.
@@Nabee_H I agree, the cost would be huge. I’m not sure if you remember Via Rail which had passenger service across Canada for a few decades but with more affordable vehicles and fuel it eventually became cost inefficient and was closed down. Similarly the rural bus services in my province no longer exists. The system would need to be convenient and affordable for customers. Calgary to Edmonton would be a good test run, although the demand would be less in other stretches such as Saskatoon to Winnipeg.
Are they going to close it??!! 🙄
Why not have yellow flashing lights if someone is crossing? That at least could alert truck drivers to slow down.
Not bad idea for 'some' truckers to 'cut out' the practice of sitting 4 ft off your bumper 'bullying'.
Nothing will change on our highways except they may make them more hazardous. Trucking needs to change in many ways but the only thing government thinks about is fines and penalties.
Remember who has the right of way
The person on the right. That is why it is called the "right" of way. The truck driving on the highway was to the right of the bus.
thats all fine and dandy but what we want to know is are they from countries where its a lot more normal to 'plow over' people and are these people new to the concept of 'driving safe '. Did either LIE or CHEAT to be licensed.
Its the bus driver's fault but was the SEMI going 112 in a 100 (as they often do). Did he SPEED up when he saw the BUS or slow down and made it worse (which isn't really an error in judgement just bad circumstance). In that other major crash in SK they didn't reveal that the BUS driver did not slow to 80km/hr as he got to the intersection and the other driver had little experience driving any type of vehicle.
This is Canada, carry on as usual, you haven’t had enough accidents as yet to change, history of change is slow in Canada.
The truth and the problem is everyone is in way too much of a hurry! Big trucks on the #1 east of Winnipeg are usually around the 105-110 km speed, if you are driving 110, cars and trucks are often going around 130-140+, Why? No room to avoid anything at that speed! And then you have so many people running stop signs on highways and out on the country roads! If we all would take time to stop, double check traffic and go when safe and also slow down a bit and not be in such a hurry things would look different. I'm sure we all want to get home safe and be with our families instead of in the hospital or worse!
There were 29 crashes at that intersection from 2012 to 2021. There's a warning sign of the upcoming stop sign half a km before it, but the warning sign is the same size as the stop sign itself, which is small. There's no warning signs as you get closer, just that one way back. There's no speed bumps or anything. How hard would it be to put speed bumps so drivers actually feel a warning? They could miss the single warning sign and the stop sign, especially if the driver is some old goat that the old folks home got for cheap because they're greedy and scrimp on everything. Maybe Manitoba should start a crowd funding campaign to buy speed bumps to stop the carnage.
If the driver missed two sign they should not be driving at all.
@@mikevideo79 True, but they're not large signs, it's possible that he was looking somewhere else twice. He couldn't have missed speed bumps though.
And nobody speeds? We live near the hwy and have to take it to go anywhere. We drive the speed limit and trucks and cars will pass us speeding by probably at 120km per hour or more. Nuts. And no or little enforcement.
I dont yhink cops give speeding tickets Any more
The headline does not match the story. So what exactly is the future of the transcan?
Since we have given up on trains being the main way of transporting goods over long distances (a really dumb idea, by the way). It will be improved slowly. Just like it has been improved ever since we started building roads. The transcan is not a twinned highway along it whole length. Currently, over half of the mainline Trans-Canada Highway is still in its original two-lane state, with no bypasses, interchanges and few passing opportunities. First we had dirt roads, then gravel roads, then "chip seal" or "tar seal". Now most major highways are either asphalt or concrete, depending on the climate. When the USA built the Alaska Highway during World War II, it was a windy road to avoid convoys of military trucks to be easy targets to bombings from the air. Since the end of the war, they have been straightening the highway to make it shorter. They have shortened it by about 500 kilometers. The history of roads is very interesting to read up on.
@@Andre-bk6jp I can kind of understand why they are gradually straightening out the Alaska highway, although I really miss the way it winds - especially the hairpin turns around Steamboat Mountain. No fun or challenge anymore!
@@nutmeg208 You are a childish conservative.
Essential Materials Transportation Operators.
A big truck at 100 k/h 👍
Scary
on a road where everyone else is going 160
you haven't driven the prairie roads have you?
Imagine a straight line for 2000 miles
One where your visibility is usually 10 miles plus.
The only acception to the i can see my dog run away for the next 3 days is in a winter blizzard.
An empty brain like yours in a small vehicle even scarier.
An empty brain like yours in a small vehicle even scarier.
Shouldn't have level crossings on a highway...
Tragedies happen. It's part of life. The reality is we live in a big country with zero hi speed rail options. Knowing this it's quite ludicrous to surrender nation wide freedom of movement, pretending to ourselves there is a quick fix.
Yes this is-was terrible. But who's going to be first to hand in thier car keys?
Maybe a producer or two at Global News?
I was thinking much the same thing. How many daily fatalities do we have on Canadian roads? They're all tragedies but we don't have three days of wall-to-wall coverage about it. Life moves on.
The country will stop functioning if not for these truck drivers who leave their families behind for extended periods. Commiserations to the injured and the families of those who died.
And people who unload the trucks and put groceries on shelves. Hospitals and schools. Countries functioned for several centuries without truckers.
My condolences to the families, friends, and communities who have lost irreplaceable loved ones from this accident. I’m not a truck driver but have travelled on Canadian highways from Vancouver to Québéc City. I won’t comment on speed being a factor in this specific accident, since I’m not qualified to do so. I also understand we are all busily trying to move from point A to point B, but maybe we could slow down a little so we all reach our destination safely. Just a suggestion from a Canadian who cares about everyone’s safety. Thank you! Bienvenu! Stay safe out there! Bon voyage!
That's unrealistic without changes from the government. As someone who's traveled between Vancouver and Quebec City, you're probably already aware that the stretch involved has a speed limit of 110 km/h, which is at the maximum mechanically governed speed of transports. If you're driving a transport and a vehicle pulls out in front of you, you're basically a passenger at that point unless you're lucky enough to be deadheading.
Instead, the better question is how to mitigate this so it doesn't happen again and that, unfortunately, will require significant financial investment by the province and federal governments. Reducing the speed of the highway isn't the right answer because to do that would dramatically increase travel times. To elevate everything would require a level of funding that is unrealistic without significantly affecting the livelihoods of many who live there.
The only real option on the TransCanada is to elevate anything that is a high-activity intersection (of which Highway 5 qualifies), and installing traffic lights on all other intersections that only switch when cross traffic is waiting. I know that already works because that's how Highway 20 has worked west of Montreal for a great many years until they added interchanges to almost every intersection except Dorion (due to a lack of right-of-way).
Although I do agree with the sentiment of your comment and the need to be responsible with our speed, here it's definitely not speed-related.
@@TheEDFLegacy There was a vehicle that flew by me tonight on the Trans Canada between Calgary and Medicine Hat doing at least 140 kph. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to make a public plea to that person to have the consideration for other people enough to slow down a little. I also specifically stated that I couldn’t comment on speed being a significant factor in this particular accident, however it certainly is in many, and directly correlates to severity of injuries and fatalities. Believe me, I have personal experience in this and hoping others might gain from it without having to go through it themselves. I’m sure you know people are crazy out there when they get behind the wheel. Safe travels!
@StirlingNash Oh, I totally agree. I live on the 401 corridor between Toronto and Montreal, and we get some pretty insane speeders. And being so remote, I can totally imagine the same (and worse) on the TransCanada.
I totally agree with you; all I'm arguing is that it looks like in this particular case, speed was not a factor, but instead intersection design, and we need to focus on that just as much as enforcement.
Safe travels! 😊
@@TheEDFLegacy I lived in London, ON. for four years. Travelled the 401 many times to Toronto and back. It felt like a death trap because of peoples unnecessary speed. Also the reduced visibility due to fog was terrifying when travelling that highway.
@@StirlingNash I don't disagree. I keep to 120km/h because that is the going average on the highway. At no point do I ever feel in danger except for that 1 in a thousand driver who's doing well above 150km/h.
Ironically I feel less in danger on the 401 than I do on two-lane highways; I can control how I crash on an expressway, because everyone's speed is relative. I can't do the same if that person is coming head-on. Although it's extremely rare, I fear the day I find a head-on driver on the 401.
A shuttle bus has a blind spot and the driver needs to open the door in order to see if there is traffic to his right, which at the yield sign with the bus in motion, unlike his action at a stop sign, he apparently failed to do. Add to that driver unfamiliarity with a recently purchased vehicle. Highways cannot be made entirely accident proof. In the final analysis ninety-five percent of the responsibility is with the motorist.
Merge lanes onto Canadian highways, unlike those on American highways that are often a quarter-mile long, usually are only about 500 feet in length with the result that ducking into traffic at 55 mph is a game of chicken with half of a car length of space to spare. Any suggestion that direct crossings should be replaced with merging traffic lanes and then exiting further down is likely to be even more risky.
Who is the bus driver ? *Crickets *
It was not the highway's fault - the accident was casued by one or both drivers - plain & simple. What we naeed is more competent drivers.
the government and department of highways are responsible for this death trap
We are the only G7 country that does not have a national highway program. We don't have in place the general standards of design to be used throughout the country. Each province has its own guidelines. Case-in-point Manitoba used to have gravel shoulders on their major highways. While in Alberta and Saskatchewan paved shoulders on major highways.
So we lack what the United States has,which built their interstate system. Don't think North Dakota built their portion of I -29 or I - 94 on there own.
So basically it has become a provincial responsibility to construct and maintain highways in Canada. The federal government does kick in money on individual projects throughout the country. As was the case in building the Trans-Canada highway in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick to freeway standards.
When was the last time the federal government actually had balls to start a mega project that wasn't influenced by another country *cough USA *cough
Noticing a real trend, people can't seem to stay on the topic and in this case,it's highways!! So many Bots!!
@@brettthomas5605 Not a bot lol, the federal government hasn't made any significant "mega projects" that weren't a direct imitation of what the US had already built.
What could possibly go wrong with this design..
How many tragic accidents like this happen at the 300 or so level crossings across the Trans-Canada Highway between Winnipeg and Calgary? Inventing a drama where none exists. Do you have any idea how many level crossings there are on on Canadians secondary two lane highways with speeds of 80 or 90 or 100 km per hour. Human error is the first thing that can go wrong. A driver that does not take the time to evaluate their chances of avoiding an accident. This appears to be the case.
@@Andre-bk6jp this one tragic accident was one too many.
SPEED KILLS. Don’t use HY 1
Every transport methods have risks, so just put up with it. If it is done with a gun, I can just hear the cries for more laws, but you are stuck here, we need that road and no , you cannot drop the speed limit to 20 KM.
i was in a white out at night out there, had to go through that same kind of intersection after fueling up. Absolutely never saw it coming until the semi almost hit the back of my car as i started crossing the trans canada. Worst incident i have ever experienced in my life
How about changing the way people learn to drive instead of changing a highway people maneuver no problem everyday.
Does anyone KNOW the difference between a freeway and a highway?
A freeway has NO crossings, as a highway DOES.
I've BARELY missed an occupied extended length horse tlr crossing this hwy while moseying along in my right of way.
Yes, it seemed they forgot the extra length??
I believe ALL DRIVERS should be forced to at least SIT in a truck to SEE what the heck.
An hour Truck ride through traffic should be MANDATORY FOR ALL DRIVERS PLANTED ON PUBLIC THROUGHFARES.
doh ..
Watching in zimbabwe
what
How about this...Defensive Driving...don't worry about being right as that could lead to being "DEAD RIGHT".
No mention of father's day on global warming news
About 50%of the drivers of smaller vehicles are driving under influence. Smokers of weed should be tested and license taken away if tested positive. Not using signals while changing lanes as well as cutting in within 5 meters in front of a semitruck should be considered as dangerous driving with stiffer penalties .
I would like to have the sources on the claims you just made. Not holding my breath though. I think 75% of Global news commenters either took too much FOX News or too much meth. It's really hard to tell.
5 meters .. have you ever been in a truck?? I would lay on the horn for a solid minute if you cut in at FIFTEEN FEET. It's a TRUCK . If it takes almost one quarter mile to stop, whaddya think all of 15ft is gonna do, exactly ???
Omgoodness. No wonder .. !!!
Mandatory truck exposure, sit and ride to a SAFE Perspective.
Then you'll KNOW that we cannot SEE completely even at 15ft., unless quite a ways above the ground ahead. But you wouldn't know that.
Sigh ..
Your statement is so true, in the fall when the weather clears I can literally smell it threw the vents and even pinpoint the car it’s coming from!, So sad the circumstances……
WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE WE FIX THINGS ????!!💔💔💔💔💔💔
Ya... we need to make sure bus drivers are capable of making good decisions before they get behind the wheel.
some sort of intelligence test to make sure they are with it.
Fix what? Don't hire smoking hillbilly drivers for buses
Inquire the INSURANCE CEO's.
jews my friend...jews
So was the truck driver an immigrant??
Wasn't the roads fault it was a bad bus drivers fault.
That being said I have almost had my own issues in the winter on the highway but that bus in summer just pulled right out in front of a semi.
It's clear the driver of the bus He's at fault, he failed to see the truck that had the right of way,,, the driver of the bus did not see the truck and did not yield
Immigrant driver, zoned out into "Road Hypnosis", expected no other vehicles on the road.
Zoned out, just kept driving through the intersection.
Inexperienced drivers classes are to short and not fluent in English
We will do what Canadians do best. Complain. Canadians. Do. Nothing. Except. Complain. Here is one shocking idea that is so bad no one is even considering it. When accidents happen if someone is on the phone, don't take away their license. They won't care. Take away their cell phone. That will hurt them.
Let’s start by dropping the speed for semi trucks by 10kmh. Far too many b trains can’t stay in their lane trying too hold 110km. I’ve had their rear trailer wheels completely in my lane while trying too pass them on the hills west of Carberry. I’ve been passed by quite a few as well when the speed drops too a 100 just before this intersection as well, I’d estimate maybe 1/2 comply if no police visible. Which is rare lately as well, every one around here knew about the Carberry RCMP and too slow down. Cut backs I bet. 16 and number one too needs too be addressed even with lights it’s proven deadly on a yearly basis.
Looks like that intersection should have a set of lights. And also the last couple of years people don't take driving serious anymore
No..the TC should be fully limited access like Interstates in the US
The HEAVY fuel tax we pay was supposed to go to maintaining and upgrading our roads, not into politician pension funds and grants to men who think they're women.
They are already saying that these deadly intersections will NEVER be upgraded due to cost .... WRONG perspective people ...Demand they be fixed NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!
Time for a WORTHwhile Truckers Protest on Ottawa ????
@@bleepbleep1961 Just make sure you're wearing a covid mask, or you may be coming back without the truck.
@@bleepbleep1961 Pretty sure that died when one of the convoy freedom founder video leaked calling all the participants losers irl who have no meaning in life.
@@AndyYoung789 I said this time it would be A WORTHWHILE Endeavour ... Pat and Tamara were a couple of Alberta Separatist Rednecks with No Cause ...
I live on the Trans Canada in Mb. Lets solve the problem. Take the 18 wheelers off the road for long hauls and make the trains move containers. This would be better for the environment and make the road safer for everyone. Truckers are most the time the problem, specially in the winter time. They often want to pass car in the uncleared fast lane. They (not all, but a lot) simply want to go too fast for the road conditions.
You can't possibly be serious with this suggestion.
So when they unload the trains at the various terminals,how do you propose to get the products distributed throughout the province. Helicopters??
Too bad it wasn't Justin Trudeaus bus
Death Threats are reported to the RCMP.
My problem with that part is the crossings getting to a gas station on the other side is suicide for a tourist.
When he says give them space in some cases that means or they will force you to. Last year when I honked my horn at a trucker that I was beside as he was cutting me off onto the shoulder at 90 Km/h they kindly put their hand out the window to give me the finger. Lots of truckers use that load as an excuse to bully their way through traffic.
Well, $500,000,000 would go a long way to building overpasses in dangerous spots along the TCH, but Trudeau preferred to gift that to Ukraine so he could have a photo op.
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Reduce speed 😢🙏
Reduce speed? Even at 80 km those people are dead
ill be running canada tommrow soo you better shut ur mouth
ill be be puttting new rukles in place
canada always has had very bad design on roads, people just blame on drivers but these people are also the people who have not travelled in other countries.... we refuse to learn from others.. our road system is really poorly designed, constructed and maintained. go to china, south korea and japan, their road system and transit systems are very well made. i am an american and i admit this...
Trans Can (& yellowhead) should have been upgraded coast to coast as 4 lane , limited access highway (like Interstates in US & motorways in europe) ..maybe if Trudeau didnt waste $ on woke crap & allowed oil & gas to be fully developed & exported we would not still have third world highways causing tragedies like this
and a start to new life in canadfa
whih meaNS IF YOURE you will be put in caghes
you already made
Never mind budget's and traffic studies. The solution is simple. Build overpasses. If it's a federal highway than the feds pay.
Sure lets build 8000 overpasses. Wait, will you be the one to moan about the cost in a few years. Let me guess, it's all Trudeau's fault either way.
OR underpasses, just stick culverts in the buzy ones, and eliminate the crossings nearby. Simple. Wind will blow out most of the snow at their entrances.
Relax hoser82. Take your finger out of your naval.
Folks... I live on hwy 17.. we have the same type intersections.. and do not have this problem.. strange as u can see vehicles coming a long way away.. tragic for sure
4:49 am
Do they have big trucks on the roads in Zimbabwe , or is it all small vans?
hello zimbabwe,from Canada
If trudeau would allow oil & gas development & exports we could afford to upgrade TC coast to coast like in the US
US highway and roads are way worse.
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg the condition of repair bad but they have coast to coast & north south non stop 4-6 lane lane fully grade separated & fully limited access (over & underpasses) connecting all major citys..Canada only now has that from Atlantic to Ontario & parts of BC & Alberta but rest has rural road crossings & some in Bc mountains still 2 lane & 2 lane across post of northern ontario