A brilliant team does not necessarily necessitate brilliant players. You just need players that are good enough, but can fit together into a cohesive unit that works in a highly effective manner together.
yet all the brilliant teams have brilliant players. not a single succesful international team has achieved anything without super stars except for that one greek team for 6 games. every single one of the past 22 world cup winning teams have had super stars.
@@damirvujevic2685 I definitely do not agree with those picks there. Germany 2014 was one of the strongest and dominant team out there with players that one the champions league and played for elite teams. Croatia 2018 had superstars as modric, kovaicic and perisic to name a few. And italy you could say that most of the well know player where past their prime. But there weren't many players who could say are superstar. But to put germany 2014 in there is criminal
I think the problem with England is the media and the expectation. I don’t think any other team in the world gets as much pressure from the fans and media as the England players. Like Sven said. In Italy he was judged only by his football. In England your life gets torn apart both private and professional. Like what the f*ck has affairs got to do with football? Too much political bullsh*t for a team that hasn’t won a trophy since 1966.
True, the media in England is cancerous. For players and morale especially. But, strangely, it's also one of the reasons for why the Prem is doing so good (as in, number of views, etc). So yeah, it's a strange one...
I will always say that Euro 2004 was the one that got away for that generation. So many what ifs in the Portugal QF - what if Rooney had not gone off injured, what if Campbell's late goal had counted, what if Beckham had scored his penalty.
Portugal were the better team after Rooney Went off injured on 24 minutes. Rooney was the stand out player the focus player in attack who made things happen scored goals had great pace and skill and vision. We couldn’t build on the Momentum after Rooney went off injured we missed him badly. Sol Campbell disallowed goal though that shouldn’t of been disallowed!
Tuchel could actually be the man to win a trophy for England. See, winning trophies, which are played for in around 5 games, does not require you to have a golden generation. It just needs a cohesive team packed with players with strong mindsets. and, of course, who are willing to go to the mad with opponents when need be. and who is better to inculcate that, other than Tuchel? I believe that is how Argentina won the 2022 worlcup. And actually, that is how italy won euros vs. a far better england team than they were back in 2020.
Yeah. Argentina doesn't have that many superstar player. They also lost many important matches on penalties. But the team right now are hungry for a win, have high fighting spirit, a cohesive team, and a good goalkeeper on penalties. England need to work on that mindset for the future.
but that's the thing, WERE they far batter? Italy had the best goalkeeper, Italy had the two best defenders, Italy had the best midfielder in Verratti and Barella. The only thing England had was Harry Kane.
As a german, i am always fascinated by Englands wish to get into a tournament, thinking that its their god given right to win the big one, because all their players play in the best league, meaning they are all automatically world class players. Germany for example never won trophies because their team was full of world class players (with a few exceptions) but because of their team mentality. The team of 1996 was a good example. We had constant injury issues, but we still managed to win it, because of our unity and will to fight. There are no egos in the team.
This is such a strange myth. We don’t think that we have a god given right and most of the time we are just supporting are team and often we have a good chance of winning and deserve to be among the favourites. Every fan talks with bais and hope about their own nation. But it’s coming home is not some arrogant statement of superiority that is supposed to be taken seriously.
@@SouthamptonCentraltake it from a foreigner living in the UK: it totally was arrogance. Now the english play it like it was just a joke, but if they would've won it, suddenly, not a joke anymore. And yes, other teams have biases too, but none as big as the english. Their supporters are hated all over the world exactly for that arrogance and disregard for other people's cultures and fans. And when you get called out: "it's just jokes, mate". It's not coming out of the blue. The hate is well-deserved.
It was looking good in Euro 2004 for England but we still couldn’t beat the big teams we lost 2-1 against France in the group stage. A game we should have won!!
In 2004 & 2006 we had great players on Paper World Class Players some of the best players but it doesn’t mean it’s all going to come together and it’s going to gell. Best team on paper but not on the pitch a bad team especially in 2006 wasn’t working wasn’t gelling didn’t come together we didn’t look like a team just individuals!
The problem is the people In the background, some players pass their peek (Harry kane) and still start every game, Palmer form was next level all season and he's on the bench, England need to be more fair to their players regardless of their colour belief or political view. It does not surprise me that they choose week managers that are easy to control.
We. Always. Bottle it. The fans. The players. We were 1-0 up against Italy, at Wembley, in the final, 2020 euros, and you could hear a pin drop. We should have been rocking that stadium!!!! Just enjoy the occasion and support your team. Fuck the expectations
Joe Cole had the best take. Patterns of play. It's mostly been individual brilliance with rare sightings of team fluidity that leads to chances. They don't need a star at every position, they need the right fit at every position.
Its funny actually not the biggest english fan but they always had the best shooters of the game right from the time of bobby charlton to steven gerrard and not to forget the best penalty expert matt le tissier ...still they often lose on penalties😂😂😂😂😂😂
We had the best Players in 2004 & 2006 but collectively as a team they weren’t very good. It didn’t click it didn’t come together at all disjointed. Strong squad bad team.
We really struggled after Rooney went off injured against Portugal we lacked that Spark in attack a player which made things happen that pace and vision creativity movement link up play. He was the main focus with England in attack.
Southgate bought hope back into English football. I remember watching the 2006 world cup with my dad and it felt so gutting to see us go out. Every tournament after that was torture watching us lose. Southgate arrives and we are consistently reaching semi's/finals. I get his playstyle wasn't for everyone (AKA leaving it to the latest possible moment) but the feelings and emotions from those last games of winning the shootouts, getting to the semi's/finals I think all england needed to realise we CAN do it.
The problems for England failing in major tournaments is player profiles, tactics and coaches. The Golden Generation from 2002-2008 had world class players from every position but the problem was to implement the right system to get the best out of them. Gerrard and Lampard couldn't play together since they were similar players and Sven(RIP) didn't start Barry or Carrick to complement Lampard or Gerrard. 2008 is when the Golden Generation ended when England failed to qualify for Euro 2008. The Rock Bottom Generation started between 2010 and 2016 when England became the laughing stock. Barely made it out the group stage in South Africa only to get smashed by the Germans albeit Lampard's goal should have stood. Euro 2012 lost on penalties again to eventual runner up Italy. World Cup 2014 England finished dead last in the group stage after failing to win a single match. Euro 2016 England achieved true rock bottom with unconvincing performances in the group stages and that horror show against Iceland with Kane taking corners and Rooney being passed his best. Hodgson was the worst coach to lead England to glory and it showed. The Renaissance Generation came when Southgate installed belief in the players and nation with deep runs in major tournaments. 2018 they made the semi finals but lost out to Croatia. Euro 2020 it should have never went to penalties in the final and I blame Southgate for throwing Sancho, Rashford and Saka under the bus for missing their spot kicks. Southgate proved he was never the guy to win the big prizes and World Cup 2022 England lost out to then World Champions France in the quarter finals. Amid reaching the final in Euro 2024, England were unconvincing in all their games and they had close calls against Slovakia and Switzerland but in the end lost to the current European Champions Spain in a convincing manner amid Palmer equalizing. Now England has a proven winner in Tuchel but can he deliver the titles England craved for since 1966? England has yet to win the Euros and England has never reached a World Cup final since they won it. Can World Cup 2026 be that year England shock the world? Time will tell.
Iconic for what? Being losers in every tournament? At least Belgium got to a World Cup semi-final, and that Belgium team would've wiped them floor with any England ''golden generation''.
Ya know as a german, if england actually won anything it would be a two sided blade. On one hand englnd win something, which we well don't really want. On the other hand if Tuchel won them something it would mean it took a german to do something an english man couldn't. I really don't know, if i would rather them not win anything and be in anyway extremely obnoxious or if i want them to win so i can ruin it for them by reminding them of the fact that a german was responsible.
We definitely would have beaten Portugal in Euro 2004 if Rooney didn’t go off injured. And we propably would have beaten Portugal in 2006 as well if Rooney wasn’t sent off and we had no Michael Owen and Beakham went off injured.
The issue with England is they are like the Toronto maple leafs in NHL North American hockey… they have such a large fan base and it is so loyal that they will always be adored regardless of the results and the money doesn’t stop either way.
We should have won Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006 if we had a better manager who was better tactically who knew what he was doing and picked the right system and got the team gelling together better and told Lampard and Rooney to stop shooting then maybe we would off.
not 2006 World Cup, Portugal, France, Italy, Argentina and Brazil were all as good or better than England in 2006. Euro 2004 was the tournament England should have won. If they had beaten Portugal in QF in 2004, they'd have beaten Netherlands in SF and Greece in Final
Its not a curse, we just weren’t good enough, either, tactically or with ability. The last English coach to win a top flight league title in England, was Howard Wilkinson in the 1991- 1992 season with Leeds United, The Premier League will be 33 years old at the end of this season and no English manager has ever won that title. Kevin Keegan was the closest.
We didn’t play good possession football we didn’t play as a team. We couldn’t keep the ball for very long always loosing it. Losing it in the final 3rd to often. We keep the ball for a bit but we didn’t do anything with it. We didn’t create anything we didn’t create any chances opportunity’s. We found it hard to break teams down.
The team could have been managed much better by Sven and we played a rigid 442. In 2006 against Portugal we played a 451 which was also the wrong system formation.
We played 451 against Portugal in 2006 but that didn’t work the players looked so uncomfortable with the system it wasn’t working and Sven never tried to change it. To rigid looked disgointed no proper system way of playing.
It's also worth putting things into perspective. Spain went over 40 years without winning a trophy after winning a pretty worthless Euros in 1964 which many teams didn't even bother to play in (including England who didn't bother). From 1930 until 1998 France only won one Euro cup. The Dutch with the great teams they've had over the years still has a worse trophy cabinet than England (only has one euro cup and no world cup) I could go on. The point is, have England underperformed in it's tournament campaigns for it's size as a football nation? Yes but nobody has a divine right to win anything and in knockout football tournaments sometimes you just need a bit of luck to win a trophy which historically has never really happened for England.
Not a curse. The biggest impediment to the national team is the separation of ownership and control of the England team. The clubs and national association have been separate since 1872. There is no incentive for the clubs to develop English players to play for the national team. They are rinsed and overplayed like Chattels. No singular style of play either. All contribute to under performance at each major tournament. Good luck Tuchel, you’ll face the same problems as every single manager since Sir Alf. And he was damn lucky to win back in 1966.
Sol Campbell goal shouldn’t have been Dissalowed against Portugal in 2004. But Portugal were the better side after Rooney went off Injured Portugal started dominating possession and England were getting forced back deeper and deeper.
No Pattern of Play. Even the poor teams you can see what they are trying to do with England you couldn’t see what they were trying to do. The effort was there but not the chemistry the understanding between players.
6:36 Wrong managers for starters ericcson cappello were defensive and conservative .Keegan tactically was poor .Rio Ferdinand summed up erriccson when he told the best ball playing centre half we had ...you go over the half way line with the ball il drop you ....ffs 😮
England's only problem is they're one of the most over-rated nations in football history because let's face it, the media make their players and managers out to be much better than they actually are. No wonder England haven't won a major trophy for over 50 years and counting despite all the previous eras of golden generations.
1996 was more so the Dutch falling under pressure than England outclassing them. Unlike most EPL fans who overhype and overrate their English players, I sometimes do the opposite. I'd never take majority of the English players over their Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch, Brazilian, Portuguese, Argentinian, etc, counterparts. For a country who tries to breathe football as their major sport, only a handful are exceptional and 1 or maybe 2 are worthy for GOAT conversations (Charlton, Moore, 🤷♂️). Gascoigne and Owen were big what-ifs, but that defers from reality of things. Harry Kane is a modern top player but a certain washed rooster club kept holding him back for many years with spider webs filling their cabinets. Belligham is special and that's why he's playing in a top club outside England, but he'll have a long way to go competing against many prodigies in his position. Even amongst managers, Bobby Robson was their last elite figure.
If you watch 2006 England Matches you can see its just not working players are trying to make it work Sven should of chaged the system but even then might not of been much better.
This is just nonsense man. Firstly, every country does this within their own media and with their own fans. England just get more attention for it. Secondly, a lot of that hype is justified considering how well they performed at club level. Thirdly, this “hype” doesn’t have a bearing on the actual game and the players don’t think about it while playing. Fourthly, England have been successful. There are three big teams who’ve won trophies this decade and England are clearly the best of the rest. That’s not bad considering how other teams have also got great players and let’s be honest, slightly more effective managers. With Tuchel, I see England winning trophies. And I bet you wouldn’t be saying this crap if Saka and Rashford hadn’t missed their pens in 2020. Just a few small moments have meant that we haven’t won but it doesn’t make our players failures and it’s most likely we’ll get there eventually
Then against Italy we were more defensive and he didn’t change the system which he should have done! If he changed it we properly would have won. It was the wrong Option to sick back and let Italy dominate.
So many other better international teams then the golden generations since 1998. Unfortunately you had a manager who never beat a single team in the top 10 during the last 6 years, Southgate was rewarded for mediocrity due to those easy draws he got. Tuchel would have won at least 1 trophy if he was in charge during Southgate's reign, most likely the 20920 Euro Final. Media is the biggest problem always overhyping everything, I do feel sorry for the players at times, as soon as they beat some random team we get the usual it's coming home by all the tabloids.
Southgate did beat teams in the top 10 and I don’t think the media is a problem. Firstly, every country does this within their own media and with their own fans. England just get more attention for it. Secondly, a lot of that hype is justified considering how well they performed at club level. Thirdly, this “hype” doesn’t have a bearing on the actual game and the players don’t think about it while playing. Fourthly, England have been successful. There are three big teams who’ve won trophies this decade and England are clearly the best of the rest. That’s not bad considering how other teams have also got great players and let’s be honest, slightly more effective managers. With Tuchel, I see England winning trophies. And I bet you wouldn’t be saying this crap if Saka and Rashford hadn’t missed their pens in 2020. Just a few small moments have meant that we haven’t won but it doesn’t make our players failures and it’s most likely we’ll get there eventually
You need 2 quite different players. Lampard and Gerrard as good as they were couldn't play together didn't work no midfled partnership with them 2 in Midfield together. They didn't pass to eachother very often either.
The most cursed nation in football? But this is about the England team, not Wales. Until 2016, it was near miss after near f***ing miss. Got depressing at times. You'd be sick for days. Still remember the game where Scotland stopped us getting to Mexico and what I was doing when Paul Bodin smacked that penalty against the bar. England have had it good by comparison, even if they are perennial underachievers.
Sven just expected the Players just to turn it on at the highest level World Cup Level without managing the team properly there was nothing on Tactics it was just go out there and play your best! No way of playing played individually. He was to reliant on the players ability he thought I have the best players I m going to win the World Cup we have a great chance. These players so poor together as a team didn’t bond didn’t tell looked disjointed didn’t work. Picked the best players but they weren’t good together as a team collectively couldn’t play good passing football kept loosing the ball couldn’t keep the ball for Long enough couldn’t create anything loosing the ball in the final 3rd. Just because you have the best squad doesn’t mean you have a good team that can play well together who can gell play good passing and moving football. Played bad football and couldn’t keep the ball long enough or create anything!
We were better than Italy we sat back let Italy come more into the game they started dominating possession England were deeper Jorginho was dominating. We let Italy come into the game we sat back defended Italy were the better side 2nd half.
England under Southgate were a much better team to be fair more cohesion. Better going forward and playing good football it wasn’t disjointed like 2006 was.
The truth is England have good players but the best squad like they always claim to have on paper is bs. Historically their no better than a top eight team below the likes of Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy, Holland, Argentina, France, Portugal and sometimes Uruguay. The problem is their was always a team better than them. But their better than most, but not the best.
Its because Gerrard and Lampard were very similar players thats why it didn't Work. None of them could play well together to be fair Especially in 2006 they didn't really.play together if you know what i mean. 2004 was better but that was because we had Rooney on Fire! We looked a bit of a better team in 2004 than 2006. We looked a better team in earlier matches. We had Roomey though and he was on Fire Great Pace and Skill could dribble Create score goals great vision. Score goals and create goals. We were much a better team in 2004 with him in the team. After he went off injured against against Portugal in 2004 we didn't look like the same team anymore. Not as threatening. Rooneywas that inspiration ij attack.
England NEVER had a player like Maradona, Messi, Zidane , Pele, R9, Rivaldo, Platini .... Yet their entire fanbase acts as if they are playing whit a bunch of superstars against kids when they go to a WC Quarter final or a Euro Semi/Final. Pety losers
England aren't cursed. Southgate could have won three tournaments but he's same guy who never believed he'd score the penalty in Euro 96. And Harry Kane the "main man" always goes AWOL, in big matches for club and country.
At least the Southgate generation has got further done better than Sven Goran Erikson generation. But still hasn’t won anything when they definitely should off.
English fans and sports media need to be moderate about the expected result. After all, stop shitting on the footballers every time they lose. Lower your expectations and everything will work out. The founders of a sport are not obliged to win every tournament in it. Canadians do not always win at hockey, Norwegians do not always win at skiing. You just need to take it easier. P.S. In my opinion, England is the number one favorite at the next World Cup in 2026 in North America.
I don’t think the expectations have that big of an impact on the actual game. And there are countries with more pressure on them than England, Brazil being a good example
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A brilliant team does not necessarily necessitate brilliant players. You just need players that are good enough, but can fit together into a cohesive unit that works in a highly effective manner together.
yet all the brilliant teams have brilliant players.
not a single succesful international team has achieved anything without super stars except for that one greek team for 6 games.
every single one of the past 22 world cup winning teams have had super stars.
I think England had that in 2021 and 2022. Just got a bit unlucky in the end
@@NeilLewis77 Italy 2020. Germany 2014. Croatians '98, 2018., 2022., (2023.) no superstars.
@@damirvujevic2685 I definitely do not agree with those picks there. Germany 2014 was one of the strongest and dominant team out there with players that one the champions league and played for elite teams.
Croatia 2018 had superstars as modric, kovaicic and perisic to name a few.
And italy you could say that most of the well know player where past their prime. But there weren't many players who could say are superstar.
But to put germany 2014 in there is criminal
@@damirvujevic2685all of the countries you mentioned had superstars
I think the problem with England is the media and the expectation. I don’t think any other team in the world gets as much pressure from the fans and media as the England players. Like Sven said. In Italy he was judged only by his football. In England your life gets torn apart both private and professional. Like what the f*ck has affairs got to do with football? Too much political bullsh*t for a team that hasn’t won a trophy since 1966.
I couldnt agree more.
True, the media in England is cancerous. For players and morale especially. But, strangely, it's also one of the reasons for why the Prem is doing so good (as in, number of views, etc). So yeah, it's a strange one...
I will always say that Euro 2004 was the one that got away for that generation. So many what ifs in the Portugal QF - what if Rooney had not gone off injured, what if Campbell's late goal had counted, what if Beckham had scored his penalty.
Agreed. Although in euro 96 they were Gazza’s stud away from being immortal.
Did Campbell score a late goal in this one? He scored a golden goal against Argentina in 98 but it was disallowed
@@Li8mBenz the same happened here, though it was in normal time. Ref ruled he obstructed Ricardo when he jumped.
@@philipjohn1254 he had some bad luck then
@@johnthompson457 which was also undeserved because they should've gone out vs Spain
Only because England had a brilliant team on Paper in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2010, it doesn’t mean it’s all going to come together.
You could of told us this 20 years ago
Portugal were the better team after Rooney Went off injured on 24 minutes. Rooney was the stand out player the focus player in attack who made things happen scored goals had great pace and skill and vision. We couldn’t build on the Momentum after Rooney went off injured we missed him badly. Sol Campbell disallowed goal though that shouldn’t of been disallowed!
The problem with England, is that they've always over hyped their players, only for them not to perform to thee high expectations they set for them.
Thats Not the Problem in the slightest. Just a myth
@hessen5498 yes it is, the premier league is not the best league in the world, just a high spending league
@@lorenzoFCIM1908 Its by far the most competitive and talented League in the world
@@hessen5498talented? Yes. Competitive? Hell no.
@@hessen5498 yes, thanks to foreign export 😂
Tuchel could actually be the man to win a trophy for England. See, winning trophies, which are played for in around 5 games, does not require you to have a golden generation. It just needs a cohesive team packed with players with strong mindsets. and, of course, who are willing to go to the mad with opponents when need be. and who is better to inculcate that, other than Tuchel? I believe that is how Argentina won the 2022 worlcup. And actually, that is how italy won euros vs. a far better england team than they were back in 2020.
Yeah. Argentina doesn't have that many superstar player. They also lost many important matches on penalties. But the team right now are hungry for a win, have high fighting spirit, a cohesive team, and a good goalkeeper on penalties. England need to work on that mindset for the future.
Tuchel can win FA cup for England 😂
@@Dee-jd8vc I'm rooting for them and I'm not English😂
but that's the thing, WERE they far batter? Italy had the best goalkeeper, Italy had the two best defenders, Italy had the best midfielder in Verratti and Barella. The only thing England had was Harry Kane.
@@Al-ji4gdengland had the better team but a garbage manager
As a german, i am always fascinated by Englands wish to get into a tournament, thinking that its their god given right to win the big one, because all their players play in the best league, meaning they are all automatically world class players.
Germany for example never won trophies because their team was full of world class players (with a few exceptions) but because of their team mentality. The team of 1996 was a good example. We had constant injury issues, but we still managed to win it, because of our unity and will to fight. There are no egos in the team.
This is such a strange myth. We don’t think that we have a god given right and most of the time we are just supporting are team and often we have a good chance of winning and deserve to be among the favourites. Every fan talks with bais and hope about their own nation. But it’s coming home is not some arrogant statement of superiority that is supposed to be taken seriously.
@@SouthamptonCentraltake it from a foreigner living in the UK: it totally was arrogance. Now the english play it like it was just a joke, but if they would've won it, suddenly, not a joke anymore. And yes, other teams have biases too, but none as big as the english. Their supporters are hated all over the world exactly for that arrogance and disregard for other people's cultures and fans. And when you get called out: "it's just jokes, mate".
It's not coming out of the blue. The hate is well-deserved.
It was looking good in Euro 2004 for England but we still couldn’t beat the big teams we lost 2-1 against France in the group stage. A game we should have won!!
In 2004 & 2006 we had great players on Paper World Class Players some of the best players but it doesn’t mean it’s all going to come together and it’s going to gell. Best team on paper but not on the pitch a bad team especially in 2006 wasn’t working wasn’t gelling didn’t come together we didn’t look like a team just individuals!
Gerrard and Lamaprd were Outstanding for there Clubs. But playing together with England in Midfield was totally different. Didn't work.
Euro 2020 was really the one that got away. Playing at home and losing it on penalties was mighty close.
The problem is the people In the background, some players pass their peek (Harry kane) and still start every game, Palmer form was next level all season and he's on the bench, England need to be more fair to their players regardless of their colour belief or political view. It does not surprise me that they choose week managers that are easy to control.
It’s shame Scholes Retired after Euro 2004 we needed him in 2006 and we missed him.
Maybe he thought "hmm .. lampard and Gerard, they'll be fine" then retire
We lost against Portugal in Euro 2004 another strong team top quality players and they had a strong defence. We cant deal with it.
We had a perfectly good goal disallowed and had an on fire Rooney taken off injured.
We. Always. Bottle it. The fans. The players. We were 1-0 up against Italy, at Wembley, in the final, 2020 euros, and you could hear a pin drop. We should have been rocking that stadium!!!! Just enjoy the occasion and support your team. Fuck the expectations
What are you on about it was rocking? Was just bad tactics that let us down.
@@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 watch it again! When Italy started playing getting back into the game we went silent
watch it again! When Italy started getting back into the game we went silent
Overlooking carrick was the biggest mistake, system over stars
So true
Before Carrick, it was Scholes, and before Scholes, it was Le Tissier.
Yes it was I agree.
So overrated.
@Al-ji4gd Carrick wasn't overrated.
Joe Cole had the best take. Patterns of play. It's mostly been individual brilliance with rare sightings of team fluidity that leads to chances.
They don't need a star at every position, they need the right fit at every position.
England were amazing against the Dutch in Euro 96 what a great performance!
Its funny actually not the biggest english fan but they always had the best shooters of the game right from the time of bobby charlton to steven gerrard and not to forget the best penalty expert matt le tissier ...still they often lose on penalties😂😂😂😂😂😂
We had the best Players in 2004 & 2006 but collectively as a team they weren’t very good. It didn’t click it didn’t come together at all disjointed. Strong squad bad team.
We really struggled after Rooney went off injured against Portugal we lacked that Spark in attack a player which made things happen that pace and vision creativity movement link up play. He was the main focus with England in attack.
Southgate bought hope back into English football. I remember watching the 2006 world cup with my dad and it felt so gutting to see us go out. Every tournament after that was torture watching us lose.
Southgate arrives and we are consistently reaching semi's/finals. I get his playstyle wasn't for everyone (AKA leaving it to the latest possible moment) but the feelings and emotions from those last games of winning the shootouts, getting to the semi's/finals I think all england needed to realise we CAN do it.
The problems for England failing in major tournaments is player profiles, tactics and coaches.
The Golden Generation from 2002-2008 had world class players from every position but the problem was to implement the right system to get the best out of them. Gerrard and Lampard couldn't play together since they were similar players and Sven(RIP) didn't start Barry or Carrick to complement Lampard or Gerrard. 2008 is when the Golden Generation ended when England failed to qualify for Euro 2008.
The Rock Bottom Generation started between 2010 and 2016 when England became the laughing stock. Barely made it out the group stage in South Africa only to get smashed by the Germans albeit Lampard's goal should have stood. Euro 2012 lost on penalties again to eventual runner up Italy. World Cup 2014 England finished dead last in the group stage after failing to win a single match. Euro 2016 England achieved true rock bottom with unconvincing performances in the group stages and that horror show against Iceland with Kane taking corners and Rooney being passed his best. Hodgson was the worst coach to lead England to glory and it showed.
The Renaissance Generation came when Southgate installed belief in the players and nation with deep runs in major tournaments. 2018 they made the semi finals but lost out to Croatia. Euro 2020 it should have never went to penalties in the final and I blame Southgate for throwing Sancho, Rashford and Saka under the bus for missing their spot kicks. Southgate proved he was never the guy to win the big prizes and World Cup 2022 England lost out to then World Champions France in the quarter finals. Amid reaching the final in Euro 2024, England were unconvincing in all their games and they had close calls against Slovakia and Switzerland but in the end lost to the current European Champions Spain in a convincing manner amid Palmer equalizing. Now England has a proven winner in Tuchel but can he deliver the titles England craved for since 1966? England has yet to win the Euros and England has never reached a World Cup final since they won it. Can World Cup 2026 be that year England shock the world? Time will tell.
Not golden but iconic still better than toxic Belgium golden generation
Iconic? Belgium's victories at the last few WCs were far more relevant and iconic than any England run since 1966
Iconic for what? Being losers in every tournament? At least Belgium got to a World Cup semi-final, and that Belgium team would've wiped them floor with any England ''golden generation''.
Ya know as a german, if england actually won anything it would be a two sided blade. On one hand englnd win something, which we well don't really want. On the other hand if Tuchel won them something it would mean it took a german to do something an english man couldn't. I really don't know, if i would rather them not win anything and be in anyway extremely obnoxious or if i want them to win so i can ruin it for them by reminding them of the fact that a german was responsible.
That’s an easy choice, pick england losing.
We definitely would have beaten Portugal in Euro 2004 if Rooney didn’t go off injured. And we propably would have beaten Portugal in 2006 as well if Rooney wasn’t sent off and we had no Michael Owen and Beakham went off injured.
Jermaine Defoe should have gone to the World Cup in 2006. If no him then Darren Bent but I would have preferred Defoe.
Very well explained!!
The issue with England is they are like the Toronto maple leafs in NHL North American hockey… they have such a large fan base and it is so loyal that they will always be adored regardless of the results and the money doesn’t stop either way.
In 2006 it was a big problem we didn’t look like a team at all. They didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing very disjointed rigid
England's every player is over hyped
Starting from Beckham
They should have signed for Hollywood or compete in some fashion contest
Beckham looked like a Bellend but his range of passing was second to non
@@jondickinson2864 And that's about it. IN every other category he was decent at best.
We should have won Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006 if we had a better manager who was better tactically who knew what he was doing and picked the right system and got the team gelling together better and told Lampard and Rooney to stop shooting then maybe we would off.
not 2006 World Cup, Portugal, France, Italy, Argentina and Brazil were all as good or better than England in 2006. Euro 2004 was the tournament England should have won. If they had beaten Portugal in QF in 2004, they'd have beaten Netherlands in SF and Greece in Final
mention the source of videos you're using
Bro this isn’t a dissertation.
But ethically right to do so@@SouthamptonCentral
Its not a curse, we just weren’t good enough, either, tactically or with ability. The last English coach to win a top flight league title in England, was Howard Wilkinson in the 1991- 1992 season with Leeds United, The Premier League will be 33 years old at the end of this season and no English manager has ever won that title. Kevin Keegan was the closest.
Great Video Thanks.
I forsee the "curse" lingering into the far future as long as the English media and fanbase wont let the players be.
We didn’t play good possession football we didn’t play as a team. We couldn’t keep the ball for very long always loosing it. Losing it in the final 3rd to often. We keep the ball for a bit but we didn’t do anything with it. We didn’t create anything we didn’t create any chances opportunity’s. We found it hard to break teams down.
Under Southgate they played as a team they looked like a proper football team they looked comfortable gelled created more. Good understanding
Fuck me mate leave some comment space for other people
The team could have been managed much better by Sven and we played a rigid 442. In 2006 against Portugal we played a 451 which was also the wrong system formation.
Come on Tommy T, bring it home
They need a long chat with the Springbok Rugby Team
We played 451 against Portugal in 2006 but that didn’t work the players looked so uncomfortable with the system it wasn’t working and Sven never tried to change it. To rigid looked disgointed no proper system way of playing.
I think as an Englishman our failure has been the expectation that our high octane physical 100 mph style would work at international level.
great video !
It's also worth putting things into perspective.
Spain went over 40 years without winning a trophy after winning a pretty worthless Euros in 1964 which many teams didn't even bother to play in (including England who didn't bother).
From 1930 until 1998 France only won one Euro cup.
The Dutch with the great teams they've had over the years still has a worse trophy cabinet than England (only has one euro cup and no world cup)
I could go on. The point is, have England underperformed in it's tournament campaigns for it's size as a football nation? Yes but nobody has a divine right to win anything and in knockout football tournaments sometimes you just need a bit of luck to win a trophy which historically has never really happened for England.
England still suffering from that goal that wasn't in 66. Definitely gotta right their wrongs from top to bottom to finally achieve success
Alan Hansen used to say England have goals all over the park but couldn’t bloody score any.
We should have definitely won Euro 2020 against Italy. We should have beaten Italy in the Final but because Southgate was manager we did.
Not a curse. The biggest impediment to the national team is the separation of ownership and control of the England team. The clubs and national association have been separate since 1872. There is no incentive for the clubs to develop English players to play for the national team. They are rinsed and overplayed like Chattels. No singular style of play either. All contribute to under performance at each major tournament.
Good luck Tuchel, you’ll face the same problems as every single manager since Sir Alf. And he was damn lucky to win back in 1966.
He was the best player and he was on fire we would of won if he didn’t get injured.
Mid 2000s there were better teams, or at least more balanced ones. Sometimes you need to be willing to bench big names to make a team work.
Sol Campbell goal shouldn’t have been Dissalowed against Portugal in 2004. But Portugal were the better side after Rooney went off Injured Portugal started dominating possession and England were getting forced back deeper and deeper.
Very Strong Squad but bad together as a team the style of play as bad. You just can’t turn it on at the highest level.
No Pattern of Play. Even the poor teams you can see what they are trying to do with England you couldn’t see what they were trying to do. The effort was there but not the chemistry the understanding between players.
6:36 Wrong managers for starters ericcson cappello were defensive and conservative .Keegan tactically was poor .Rio Ferdinand summed up erriccson when he told the best ball playing centre half we had ...you go over the half way line with the ball il drop you ....ffs 😮
Best team on paper but not on the pitch. Even against teams like Trinidad and Tobago we struggled and Ecuador and other poor teams.
England should of won the Euros in 96.
What a penalty from southgate. If you shoot like that you just don’t deserve it.
England's only problem is they're one of the most over-rated nations in football history because let's face it, the media make their players and managers out to be much better than they actually are. No wonder England haven't won a major trophy for over 50 years and counting despite all the previous eras of golden generations.
1996 was more so the Dutch falling under pressure than England outclassing them.
Unlike most EPL fans who overhype and overrate their English players, I sometimes do the opposite. I'd never take majority of the English players over their Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch, Brazilian, Portuguese, Argentinian, etc, counterparts.
For a country who tries to breathe football as their major sport, only a handful are exceptional and 1 or maybe 2 are worthy for GOAT conversations (Charlton, Moore, 🤷♂️). Gascoigne and Owen were big what-ifs, but that defers from reality of things. Harry Kane is a modern top player but a certain washed rooster club kept holding him back for many years with spider webs filling their cabinets. Belligham is special and that's why he's playing in a top club outside England, but he'll have a long way to go competing against many prodigies in his position.
Even amongst managers, Bobby Robson was their last elite figure.
the worst thing England ever done was win it, the expectancy is there every time now
I would say the manager more than the players.
If you watch 2006 England Matches you can see its just not working players are trying to make it work Sven should of chaged the system but even then might not of been much better.
England making excuses for their own overhyped player yet again.
This is just nonsense man. Firstly, every country does this within their own media and with their own fans. England just get more attention for it. Secondly, a lot of that hype is justified considering how well they performed at club level. Thirdly, this “hype” doesn’t have a bearing on the actual game and the players don’t think about it while playing. Fourthly, England have been successful. There are three big teams who’ve won trophies this decade and England are clearly the best of the rest. That’s not bad considering how other teams have also got great players and let’s be honest, slightly more effective managers. With Tuchel, I see England winning trophies. And I bet you wouldn’t be saying this crap if Saka and Rashford hadn’t missed their pens in 2020. Just a few small moments have meant that we haven’t won but it doesn’t make our players failures and it’s most likely we’ll get there eventually
Rooney was that inspiration in attack you see.
Long may this continue.
Then against Italy we were more defensive and he didn’t change the system which he should have done! If he changed it we properly would have won. It was the wrong Option to sick back and let Italy dominate.
England’s Golden Generation in 2004, 2006, 2010, failed miserably.
So many other better international teams then the golden generations since 1998.
Unfortunately you had a manager who never beat a single team in the top 10 during the last 6 years, Southgate was rewarded for mediocrity due to those easy draws he got.
Tuchel would have won at least 1 trophy if he was in charge during Southgate's reign, most likely the 20920 Euro Final.
Media is the biggest problem always overhyping everything, I do feel sorry for the players at times, as soon as they beat some random team we get the usual it's coming home by all the tabloids.
Southgate did beat teams in the top 10 and I don’t think the media is a problem. Firstly, every country does this within their own media and with their own fans. England just get more attention for it. Secondly, a lot of that hype is justified considering how well they performed at club level. Thirdly, this “hype” doesn’t have a bearing on the actual game and the players don’t think about it while playing. Fourthly, England have been successful. There are three big teams who’ve won trophies this decade and England are clearly the best of the rest. That’s not bad considering how other teams have also got great players and let’s be honest, slightly more effective managers. With Tuchel, I see England winning trophies. And I bet you wouldn’t be saying this crap if Saka and Rashford hadn’t missed their pens in 2020. Just a few small moments have meant that we haven’t won but it doesn’t make our players failures and it’s most likely we’ll get there eventually
Sven was to blame and the players.
We couldn’t play as a team.
We played the best football in Euro 2020.
Tactically we were poor. Zero Chemistry in the team as a group playing together.
Gerrard and Lampard couldn't play together because they were Similar Players there was no midfield Partnership with them two in Midfield.
You need 2 quite different players. Lampard and Gerrard as good as they were couldn't play together didn't work no midfled partnership with them 2 in Midfield together. They didn't pass to eachother very often either.
If only we got a good manger then we might qualify
But who was to Blame Southgate!
The most cursed nation in football? But this is about the England team, not Wales. Until 2016, it was near miss after near f***ing miss. Got depressing at times. You'd be sick for days. Still remember the game where Scotland stopped us getting to Mexico and what I was doing when Paul Bodin smacked that penalty against the bar. England have had it good by comparison, even if they are perennial underachievers.
And the Modern England Golden Generation also failed but did better.
442 against Portugal in 2004.
Sven just expected the Players just to turn it on at the highest level World Cup Level without managing the team properly there was nothing on Tactics it was just go out there and play your best! No way of playing played individually. He was to reliant on the players ability he thought I have the best players I m going to win the World Cup we have a great chance. These players so poor together as a team didn’t bond didn’t tell looked disjointed didn’t work. Picked the best players but they weren’t good together as a team collectively couldn’t play good passing football kept loosing the ball couldn’t keep the ball for Long enough couldn’t create anything loosing the ball in the final 3rd. Just because you have the best squad doesn’t mean you have a good team that can play well together who can gell play good passing and moving football. Played bad football and couldn’t keep the ball long enough or create anything!
We were better than Italy we sat back let Italy come more into the game they started dominating possession England were deeper Jorginho was dominating. We let Italy come into the game we sat back defended Italy were the better side 2nd half.
England under Southgate were a much better team to be fair more cohesion. Better going forward and playing good football it wasn’t disjointed like 2006 was.
The truth is England have good players but the best squad like they always claim to have on paper is bs. Historically their no better than a top eight team below the likes of Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy, Holland, Argentina, France, Portugal and sometimes Uruguay. The problem is their was always a team better than them. But their better than most, but not the best.
Its because Gerrard and Lampard were very similar players thats why it didn't Work. None of them could play well together to be fair Especially in 2006 they didn't really.play together if you know what i mean. 2004 was better but that was because we had Rooney on Fire! We looked a bit of a better team in 2004 than 2006. We looked a better team in earlier matches. We had Roomey though and he was on Fire Great Pace and Skill could dribble Create score goals great vision. Score goals and create goals. We were much a better team in 2004 with him in the team. After he went off injured against against Portugal in 2004 we didn't look like the same team anymore. Not as threatening. Rooneywas that inspiration ij attack.
England should win the World Cup in 2026 easily
Next video should be on Italian downfall
With Harry Kane in there, they aint winning sheet
England NEVER had a player like Maradona, Messi, Zidane , Pele, R9, Rivaldo, Platini .... Yet their entire fanbase acts as if they are playing whit a bunch of superstars against kids when they go to a WC Quarter final or a Euro Semi/Final.
Pety losers
Fact England not beating a top 5 team since January 2016
Kane might not win anything with England.
England aren't cursed. Southgate could have won three tournaments but he's same guy who never believed he'd score the penalty in Euro 96. And Harry Kane the "main man" always goes AWOL, in big matches for club and country.
Bloody Southgate
At least the Southgate generation has got further done better than Sven Goran Erikson generation. But still hasn’t won anything when they definitely should off.
Gareth Southgate ruined my birthday. June 30th I was sat there, in Butlins, watching Germany vs Czech Rep. Absolute bastard.
English fans and sports media need to be moderate about the expected result. After all, stop shitting on the footballers every time they lose. Lower your expectations and everything will work out. The founders of a sport are not obliged to win every tournament in it. Canadians do not always win at hockey, Norwegians do not always win at skiing. You just need to take it easier.
P.S. In my opinion, England is the number one favorite at the next World Cup in 2026 in North America.
I don’t think the expectations have that big of an impact on the actual game. And there are countries with more pressure on them than England, Brazil being a good example
If you watch 2006 England matches you will see what I mean.
Great Players bad team in 2006.
Yes we are the most cursed nation.
Keep the ball for a bit get up the pitch the loose it.